I liked this video. It seemed a lot less hostile than the others I've seen. The only real issue is bringing up your experience every few minutes. Everybody here knows, and could probably even quote the whole resume by now. Bringing it up at the beginning is good enough, and will drastically increase the quality of the rest of the video.
The 1st is very negative...because it should be. Hopefully they start doing better and I will call it like I see it so people can learn and stop parroting the bs of channel suckup
Great video, wasn't aware of who you were before - but it was an informative video, glad you brought up how strange it was for people to rock backwards or stay sitting without even an attempt to get up. As another mentioned the tone in this was good too, it came off as insightful and constructive rather than something emotionally charged
Good video analysis and worth listening to your point of view. Chan was the only one that stood his ground and continued to fight on as If he was trying to survive. I honestly expected more from Ramsey, but the rest of the other competitors failed due to their sport mentality and slow execution from stand up and ground application, including Rokas. Plus, in real time situation, expect someone on the bus to have a weapon or small object like a screw driver, ice pick,e.t.c...I've seen it used before and I was also attacked one time with a knife, luckily, I carried a mace to assist me along with key techniques I've used, but hell, I live in L.A. County...lol....Good video Wolfman!!
I think how these guys fight shows you a direct background to what they have trained. Jeff is the only one of them that's got both good grappling and good striking and good Cardio and yet hes one of the smallest but winning all the exchanges with the aggression and pressure that he can put on with really good MuiThai and a brown belt in Jujitsu that seems to be takedown and top pressure focused for MMA purposes. Sucks at dealing with weapons because hes never tried it before in the 2nd episode he talks about how thats the first time someones ever tried to hit him with "A bat" like weapon. Seth has only ever focused on kicks and kickboxing and never trained grappling despite his Uchimata that he must have learned from Shintaro Higashi or his Sambo classes so he has to use his size to his advantage in the grappling but anyone his size or strong enough with grappling would fold him easily. Hes such a cuddly bear type person I don't think he has it in himself to want to hurt people even if they were attacking him Ramsay is one of the slowest people due to his age and injuries and never focused much on grappling. Hes had cage fights and experience for MMA style grappling of top pressure but similar to Seth I think he would fold easily to anyone his own size that can grapple. Mike just has his hours spent doing his self taught kickboxing styles which I don't really hate on much because Kickboxing is so simple to teach and practice at amateur levels. His grappling is the worst because hes so small and never does it, hes posted videos of him loosing matches at white belt comps even. To his positive the stuff where he has sought instruction shines really clearly in how well he deals with weapons from his time with Ryan Hoover and Craig Douglass. (you also see it reflected in Seth so you know they have practiced it abit behind the scenes). Rokus has the size and grappling with his Aikido showing up and his Jujitsu but tends to fold when it comes to being aggressive enough and overthinking things which you see in his MMA fights hes so timid and fights too reactionary which is also similar to Seth that hes probably a nice guy and doesn't want too hurt people so hes holding back. Matt has practice with self defence scenarios but doesn't seem to have moves that hes mastered to be useable in more worse case scenarios like getting caught on bottom and how to use your legs to defend yourself. Also seems to suffer from bad cardio similar to Seth. Its Ironic that the skills that you see people show here are all ones they learnt from others and their own specialties are selling them short on how to fight and end it as fast as you can, besides Jeff. Its clear based on what happens the obvious self defence criteria to be the most useful is Strength, Agility, Agression, Techniques.
Good review and accurate. I think the format actually turned out pretty cool, so Kudos for Rokas on that. I think it really shows the difference between sports and combat, not that it was their intended point. All the failures of these guys ( minus Chan) were due to their sport minded training and poor execution skills, even for their sport techniques. You rightly pointed out their failure to take the high position and I was surprised none of them did the ol’ stuff the torso in the leg area of the seat trick where the victim could be ruthlessly beat to submission. It think if they get some real self defense guys in there it could be a really good show. Someone should have pulled a concealed training weapon as well, because that is what would happen on a real bus fight. Maybe they could have the moderator randomly select a guy to receive it incognito…
@@موسى_7 self defense isnt fair. Reality is brutal. If they want to call it self defense they need to have realistic scenarios, otherwise it is just a game with little real world value
I hope these guys can look at least a tiny bit better going on! Please Like and leave a Comment at least I am the one honest breakdown on RUclips of these pretenders...
Would love to hear your thoughts on Ramsey's latest / last video about this whole thing. Seemed like it devolved overall. A big question is how well MMA mimics self defence - seems like having (real) MMA skills is a big bonus, but would love a more detailed take from someone like you who really knows?
@danielpollard7345 I commented on his vid. Also did all the breakdowns that probably covers it. Get my Combatives Instructional on BJJFANATICS to really learn. I'll probably do breakdowns on season 2 if people want it
I think there may have been some coping in the actual episode (on the martial arts journey channel) and on at least one other channel about how intentional the "guard pulling" was on the bus. It seemed to me that a lot of them were legitimately off balanced by the lurching of the bus since the driver was instructed to make the ride rough. This may account for even Jeff's mistakes. And on top of that in the second episode which is in a gym it seemed like there was more hesitancy to end up on bottom from all of them.
FYI I filmed Ep 2 Breakdown before coming to work to protect a religious group and just watched a Ramsey vid...he says he had the bad lab c1984 Flu just before going to Australia and lost a ton of muscle weight and been fatigued...so I'm sorry I was a bit too hard first couple episodes but I take Self-Defense very seriously and my jobs are to protect people and he blows Self-Defense off.
I’d still like to see you compete in the next ultimate self defense championship or something similar. If those guys are as inadequate as you sayid like to see what the real deal looks like, and on the same playing field as a handful of others.
Your commentary was very fair for what was presented. With the exception of Jeff Chan this is a trainwreck .In 30 odd years we have gone from "In Action" challenges to dorks on a bus... a very clean bus btw Kind of feel like you or any Daido juku Blackbelt would have excelled in this episode because they spar in the gear. Would have been interested in one of Bill Kipps (Fast Defense)guys being there if its going to be a gear issue and a reaction time scenario type of thing. Im sure that blount weapon video is going to have the viewers craving a dog brother. Will continue to watch you and David James for insight into Realistic training. Havent watched any of these guys since you enlightened us into their backgrounds. TY and Keep grinding Dan...
@@DanTheWolfman My error. I was referring to those Palladian press guys from the 90s. I probably should have said Peyton Quinn. They led this push for realistic scenario training in the pad man. They would hold seminars and put guests through pejorative filled scenes where they would stress test techniques and BlackBelts would get a wakeup call on simple gross motor movements over flash. I believe a certain famous Ninja was their biggest convert. Side issue one of them did a scenario self defense video with a Wing Chun guy and 2 others. Will try to find the title. I like Seth probably more than the rest cause of his interaction with wonderboys camp. Just can't watch Dewey after thinking about what you said about his rank.
Icy mike really has ppl fooled. Don't understand how the majority of ppl voted for him to win when he is the smallest, an amateur kickboxer, and a white belt in jiu-jitsu.
He Is way less than even an Amateur kickboxer.....knowing some kempo and putting gloves on doesn't make you a Kickboxing coach it's disgusting. Putting his head down al the time scared to get hit
I reached out many time friendly to Ramsey, I was super nice to Rokas 1st time when he was Aiki boy and now tough love, fan of Jeff, Seth could woo me, and Mike is untrained
Really missed your shot with the high ground references. No Obi Wan Kenobi? That's like the most well known high ground situation. Starwars movies aren't great, and you're older so I get it. Princess bride is a better movie I would argue.
@@DanTheWolfman Yeah. It's fun to watch though and the production is pretty well done. I'm mainly only watching because Jeff Chan is there. I also thought it was somewhat interesting on the knife part how Jeff fought him and almost everyone else just gave him their "money" or whatever. On a somewhat related note have you watched and of the car jitsu or telephone booth MMA stuff? There's a ton of weird and interesting fighting sports coming out of the eastern European areas right now.
Hello, l'm pretty new to the channel, but l watched the video where you call icy mike and ramsey and the others out, and l liked a lot. BTW, don't you think mike not able to defend against a knife in the later episode was a bit weird? I mean, he was a police officer what the hell? Also, l've been wanting to go combat sports for a while, what would you recommend for a beginner: combat sambo or MMA? anyway, see ya... hope you have a great day/night
Welcome, Sub and check my Playlists. If you aren't in NY or Eastern Euro/Russia where are you going to find Combat Sambo? Approach things like an adult, you have a super computer
@@DanTheWolfman well, l'm not from US or North America, l'm in Bulgaria(Balkans), more or less Russia's brothers(or at least we call ourself that) there was a gym that teaches MMA,combat Sambo, Muay Thai, etc.
Very nice breakdown. Regardless of contestants chosen, I think overall Rokus did a great job formatting the show. I'm curious to hear actual reactions/feedback from all the competitors, as right now, Ramsey is the only one providing insight to the behind the scenes. Definitely, Rokus went for the established names, over quality fighters, but I think the main point to the competition... or at least my takeaway, is that becoming competent in a gym (which I would say they all are... even if only amateur... excluding Jeff, of course) doesn't mean you're some expert "real world" self-defense fighter, who can dominate street fights. In many ways, watching this, was like watching MMA 1... and I really think Rokus is on to something with this competition. I would absolutely love to see this thing be successful enough, to make recurring seasons. Now, I don't watch any of them religiously... but my personal understanding is that most of these guys are basically knowledgeable hosts, running a business that while certainly above a McDojo "I'm too lethal for fighting"... they are by no means experts. The only one I watch routinely is Ramsey Dewey, mainly because he does very nice explanations, and doesn't claim to be an expert... he has a legitimate fighting record, that unfortunately was ended abruptly by a pretty bad injury, leaving him partially blind... but he's still willing to get people interested in mma, and one of the few people finding legitamacies to traditional Asian Martial Arts... which is pretty cool. To my knowledge the only videos he's done, claiming to be an expert, are responses to viral, truly abhorrent or otherwise toxic self-defense videos, warning against such dangerous techniques. That of course doesn't make him an expert... and it would have been nice to see someone like yourself, or other smaller youtuber, in the mix, next to Jeff. Here's hoping for season 2! Take care my friend!
Thanks. I would add it does show one has to have a self-defense mindset...to believe it is actually a thing. Ramsey is MMA coach & BJJ Brown Belt and see how poorly he has done...so it's not automatic. Mike tried to make it seem like him being upside down twice was a good thing and he was close to armbars...F that Mfer fooling kids
@DanTheWolfman you're welcome, and certainly correct regarding the lack of experience and " self defense mindset" attitude. For what they are worth (I'm sure with many grains of salt) supposedly Ramsey said he was under the impression that self defense implied immobilizing your opponent, while minimalizing damage to yourself and opponent... emphasizing excessive use of force. Now, I can't speak to that, but I know police and security train extensively for what exactly self-defense and excessive-force entail... and I'm certain Ramsey doesn't have that training. I also know, in any competition, if rules are left to an individual's assumptions, then certainly there is a huge room for misunderstanding. As for Mike, I've never watched his content... not really my genre... he definitely comes off as a stereotypical "tough guy" and if this competition shows anything... it's that you have to be able to back that attitude up... which it would seem Mike doesn't. One interjection I will make, is that Mike did release one video, evidently a few weeks ago, about episode 1, and does say he had 0 experience in such a situation, then goes on to say that while the first time on his back was an accident... for him it worked... so he continued to implement it from there on out, for each fight he was in, on the bus... so it was intentional. To your points though... that doesn't make it a good idea at all... and as we see with Jeff, a little experience goes a very long way. Take care Sir!
awesome, How you noticed that editing quality, It's probably what alot of these RUclipsrs Do?, to Try & make their videos more convincing, Then it really looks.
Ramsey did say on a different post that people were being thrown due to the bus sudden movements. So how are they supposed to have perfect technique when there are several variables from training on a plain mat under controlled environment? In the end I do agree that Chen probably has the edge on all of them since he is a pro fighter and competing at that level can simulate stressors that others aren't as used to. Chen probably has the advantage on the mental game as well.
Before I watch the rest of this, I've already watched all of Rokas' videos and this is great at showcasing how being too sport focused will make you forget some very basic shit that will keep the blood inside your body in a real fight, always know where the weapon is at. If the guy got a knife you never let that hand go or get anywhere close to his other arm untill you've motivated the fucker to drop his weapon through sufficient knees to the balls or whatever. I was pretty frustrated watching some of these guys who I know are competent fighters just completely ignore the actual threat.
I want to say one thing Rocas never said that they are specialist in self defense but youtube martial artist. I find this a difference. Ramsey Dewey say also in his video's self defense is a legal word. So people my think what they want but be honest.
I'm always honest watch your mouth...a SD championship maybe should have had at least 2 SD experts, people that have...had actual streetfights, bouncers, fought weapons and multiples for real like I have
@@DanTheWolfman but this is about youtube man that talk about martial arts and see what they do in this kind of situation..... Plus see the fun in it and dont take it serious. Almost every thing on youtube i take with a grain of salt...... plus i dont say that you are not honest but words can be wrong that says nothing about the person. I respect you ( more than the people in the video ) . Greetings from the Netherlands 🥋 OSU 🥋
i dont think anyone will call you a hater lol anyone with two eyes and bisping would see that the fighting was terrible aside from jeff. a few things tho ramsey just came off of no training and quarantine bc of china so thats why hes not the best despite being a now brown belt not a purple belt anymore. hes also retired and has loads of injuries. not making excuses for him thats just context. also mike disappointed me a lot with this tbh i expected sm more with the wild claims he makes. would love to see you on this show sometime if they can keep it going i think even in retirement if you trained for it youd do great
Thanks Ryan....if he been in lockdown how he brown belt now???? Really? He may have had jetlag this one but idk. Is lovkdown still going on I thought he got to 220 eating once per day?
@@DanTheWolfman he isn't but at the time of the video he just came back from lockdown, he got to 220 after these were filmed i believe. also he got brown belt a while ago
Question for @DanTheWolfman These self proclaimed coaches were actually able to hang with Jeff Chan in this competition so surely that lends some credibility to their ability? Yeah, no obviously they don't have anywhere near your scope of knowledge but honestly bro most people don't, you're an extreme example of someone who just dedicated their life to martial arts. Quick Edit while I remember: Self Defense expert should not fall on his ass, Dan, we both know that shit happens, things don't always go the way we think they would, it's your ability to improvise, adapt and overcome with the skills you've got that determines if you can be called a ''self defense experts'' tbh. Alternatively it'd be your ability to see the scenario that is about to play out in your head before it happens and getting yourself out of there, situational awareness is most important after all.
NO ONE Technically at all even close to Jeff., they couldn't hang 30 seconds with him, Mike was taken down and sidemounted in 16 seconds, Seth Armbarred in 19 seconds.....Seth and Rokas did ok for their low level. Sorry kid grow up and listen to an actual expert, not frauds like them.
@@DanTheWolfman We'll agree to disagree, I don't frequently watch them and I don't use their videos for anything more than entertainment, I train at several actual gyms under instructors who have trained under Pedro Sauer, Roger Gracie and John Will. Edit: I realise now that I may have been unclear, what I meant by being ''able to hang'' with Jeff is that they were able to complete the same challenges with mixed results, obviously Jeff will whoop them in a fight, he's got an even bigger advantage against Ramsay who was a professional fighter but he got fucked up and he's got a blindspot in his eyes now, the medical term is is a ''scotoma'' which is a significant disadvantage. I see where you're coming from though, they all made serious mistakes such as Seth going for the classic chicken wing grip like a school bully relying on his size rather than a martial artist who knows what he wants to do but I honestly think a lot of this comes from the fact that they don't have real life experience, it's all theoretical. There is a reason I'm watching the videos of you breaking down all the episodes though, I want to hear your thoughts on how it all went down 🤣 ruclips.net/video/UFVAJT9wHoo/видео.html this is from a few years back, guy in black and red is me, not even remotely impressive performance but atleast I train and fight so I think I get to have my own opinion. If you've ever got the time or feel bored enough to actually watch it feel free to break down the fight and point out all of our mistakes, I'd appreciate it even if it's a few years old.
@@DanTheWolfman After watching even more of you, how much would I have to pay to come out and train with you in the US? Like a full system run through, I'll pay for ammunition, siminution and sign whatever waivers for physical fighting, I know how to breakfall etc, I got all the basics needed for full contact training. You're one of a kind man. Think like a training camp, I'm paying you to teach me 1 on 1 for 3 months. What is your time worth? If I can't afford it rn I'll save up for it if you're willing to give me 1 on 1 coaching. Obviously you are 100% free to record it for content as that will only give me something to look at in the future.
@@DanTheWolfman I'm from Norway, I'll pass any background check to gain entrance to the U.S. beyond that I can't tell you, the norwegian government would give me ''Top Secret'' clearance based on being born as I am. I can count to as many thousands as you need me to 😆
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@@DanTheWolfman just found you mentioned having lupus in another video. My mom has it too and it makes her feel icy cold and exhausted. Extra gratitude to you for putting out videos and hope your health is well Wolfman!
@@hydroturd Thank you it's always a struggle. Had PT stuff and 1st mile jog since knee surgery yesterday to qualify to today has been rough. I've been cold a lot too as of late. Tell her I wish her well. I've worked hard last year to get down to very little prednisone but now my body makes very little cortisol so always in pain. Cheers
I need to see Dan on season 2 of the ultimate self defense championship, I'd pay for his tickets to australia myself if they don't want to take him. I doubt they'll put Dan on S2 as it's already planned but this really can't be called the Ultimate Self Defense Championship without Dan. Season 3 has to have Dan or Dan could crowdfund his own version, bring some actual guns with simmunition too.
i like seeing icy mike getting pounded on lol i expected ramsey to do better but all that bjj leg wrapping didnt help him at first did it? thats what happens when you're obsessed with only the sports aspects of bjj i guess
FYI I was super nice 1st interview w Rokas who talks behind my back, sent many nice msgs & flower branches to Ramsey, called into Seth livestream in low-down, emailed w Jeff, Mike just really is sneaky and teaches others stuff wrong w no credit given...me and Gwrap Weapon retention creater...he hasn't been taught Kickboxing he learns off RUclips lol and badly
This is not self-defense. It's MMA on a bus. If your goal is self-defense, then you should have hit the vitals to quickly incapacitate them. They might as well go to a cage to spar than do this.
Ramsey and Icy Mike religiously support the effectiveness of BJJ. It seemed like throughout this challenge they were trying to prove it works in situations like this and were falling on their backs all the time.
@@DanTheWolfman Definitely you being a lot more experienced would know better what is or isn't BJJ and would perhaps use different techniques and react differently and being an actual practitioner you'd see it from a different perspective. That's why I find your commentary very interesting and largely eye opening. But nevertheless, as a spectator, watching hundreds of BJJ vids, whether it's ring fights or tutorial or other, the tendency of BBJ practitioners to fall on their backs and try to fight from there is objectively more than evident. The Gracies spent most of their matches with Sakuraba on their backs. Ramsey and Icy Mike are always ecstatic about BJJ. Whatever their experience with the system is, it really seemed that they were more focused on validating BJJ within the bus scenario rather than adopting to the situation.
If Ramsey wants to make nice and discuss martial arts both me and Viking Samurai have offered. I like him. ROKAS should talk to me about MMA, BJJ, self defense lol not make his followers think I'm an aikido instructor all about aikido last long interview
Dan nice job. They are forgetting in a real fight no pads. A good hitter like you friend that study from the Russian Arts can knock a person out. And if you don't know how to hit you brake a hand. I know you know what you are talking about. Seen you work on RUclips and listen to what you say. You have done your homework for sure. Nice job again. Have a nice night.
Hide behind the screen? lol I fought 3 of the most experienced Pro Fighters in the world..still...to this day with over 300 pro fights between them lol. I talk nice to Jeff whose school it is, and Rokas well..I've been very nice when he is respectful. So yes. Can I stay with you when I come? I'm down for dual citizenship what about you?
I was subscribed to all these guys for over a year. Episode one of the championship, and I realized I'm a better fighter than everyone there. And I'm definitely not an expert. Jeff Chan has good skill, but I'm too big for that to be fair. If he were my size, he may actually have more than a 50/50 chance on me. But the rest were a total disappointment. Rokas is fairly humble, and so I can't really hate on him, but I'm gravely dissatisfied with the rest.
Lol...you need a major reality check bro...Jeff Chan would smoke you every which way...Pro and Brown Belt and super athletic...just lols.. go visit a good BJJ school and get choked out...go spar even a good amatuer MMA fighter than decide if you think you should really try a pro...come on now...Post seriously. Have you even done a Boxing or Muay Thai smoker?
Have you considered entering the next ultimate self defense championship. It’s easy to criticize when you’re not in there. I’d like to see how you would do.
Then doing the ultimate self defense championship would be no big deal. Honestly, this started with me just wanting to see what really works. You claim these guys suck so I got really really curious. If you have the answers, I’m in. But now it looks like there’s nothing but claims and excuses. Those guys put their money where their mouths are. It costs you nothing to sit back and criticize. Again, if you do know something they don’t, I’m in. Just put ur money where your mouth is. Enter a level playing field with all those “fake instructors” so we can compare. If ur really that much better, you should win easily, no problem.
@Matt Barnes ahmm .I fought TOP Pro Fighters professionally, bounced, and armed guard that has 4 black belts u troll think critically and do research. I have the highest rated self-defense instructional on bjjfanatics. Yes I would do a lot better but Rokas is scared I'd hurt him he has said so
I just want to see what you’ve come up with. if you are as confident as you come across then why does something like the ultimate self defense championship upset u so much? I don’t know u from Adam. I can’t take ur word for it. The in action series the Gracies put out was a game changer for me. They talked smack but then they backed it up. I was just hoping to see the same from you. I’m going to leave you be now. We’re both just wasting our time. If you’re really that much more advanced please consider participating in the ultimate self defense championship or something similar. I really am curious to see what you may have figured out.
I liked this video. It seemed a lot less hostile than the others I've seen. The only real issue is bringing up your experience every few minutes. Everybody here knows, and could probably even quote the whole resume by now. Bringing it up at the beginning is good enough, and will drastically increase the quality of the rest of the video.
I'm going to reach a wider audience w these and tik tok kids think they are actually good and knowledgeable...they are not
Yes. I can't wait for your breakdown.
The 1st is very negative...because it should be. Hopefully they start doing better and I will call it like I see it so people can learn and stop parroting the bs of channel suckup
Seems like catch wrestling would be most effective to learn for defending yourself in cramped spaces.
Lot's of things are good if you train hard w great guys for Long periods dedicated
Greco Roman and Boxing imo.
@@SinistralEpoch it's all good if ur good but yeah
I really like the format. True, there might be other people that we would like to see.
It's not the format that's the problem.
Great video, wasn't aware of who you were before - but it was an informative video, glad you brought up how strange it was for people to rock backwards or stay sitting without even an attempt to get up. As another mentioned the tone in this was good too, it came off as insightful and constructive rather than something emotionally charged
Ep 2 and 3 Breakdowns are out check them out.
Fun video breakdown. I'll definitely watch a breakdown of episode 2.
Processing....who do I praise and whom do I dog?
Good video analysis and worth listening to your point of view. Chan was the only one that stood his ground and continued to fight on as If he was trying to survive. I honestly expected more from Ramsey, but the rest of the other competitors failed due to their sport mentality and slow execution from stand up and ground application, including Rokas. Plus, in real time situation, expect someone on the bus to have a weapon or small object like a screw driver, ice pick,e.t.c...I've seen it used before and I was also attacked one time with a knife, luckily, I carried a mace to assist me along with key techniques I've used, but hell, I live in L.A. County...lol....Good video Wolfman!!
YEP THANKS
I think how these guys fight shows you a direct background to what they have trained.
Jeff is the only one of them that's got both good grappling and good striking and good Cardio and yet hes one of the smallest but winning all the exchanges with the aggression and pressure that he can put on with really good MuiThai and a brown belt in Jujitsu that seems to be takedown and top pressure focused for MMA purposes. Sucks at dealing with weapons because hes never tried it before in the 2nd episode he talks about how thats the first time someones ever tried to hit him with "A bat" like weapon.
Seth has only ever focused on kicks and kickboxing and never trained grappling despite his Uchimata that he must have learned from Shintaro Higashi or his Sambo classes so he has to use his size to his advantage in the grappling but anyone his size or strong enough with grappling would fold him easily. Hes such a cuddly bear type person I don't think he has it in himself to want to hurt people even if they were attacking him
Ramsay is one of the slowest people due to his age and injuries and never focused much on grappling. Hes had cage fights and experience for MMA style grappling of top pressure but similar to Seth I think he would fold easily to anyone his own size that can grapple.
Mike just has his hours spent doing his self taught kickboxing styles which I don't really hate on much because Kickboxing is so simple to teach and practice at amateur levels. His grappling is the worst because hes so small and never does it, hes posted videos of him loosing matches at white belt comps even. To his positive the stuff where he has sought instruction shines really clearly in how well he deals with weapons from his time with Ryan Hoover and Craig Douglass. (you also see it reflected in Seth so you know they have practiced it abit behind the scenes).
Rokus has the size and grappling with his Aikido showing up and his Jujitsu but tends to fold when it comes to being aggressive enough and overthinking things which you see in his MMA fights hes so timid and fights too reactionary which is also similar to Seth that hes probably a nice guy and doesn't want too hurt people so hes holding back.
Matt has practice with self defence scenarios but doesn't seem to have moves that hes mastered to be useable in more worse case scenarios like getting caught on bottom and how to use your legs to defend yourself. Also seems to suffer from bad cardio similar to Seth.
Its Ironic that the skills that you see people show here are all ones they learnt from others and their own specialties are selling them short on how to fight and end it as fast as you can, besides Jeff. Its clear based on what happens the obvious self defence criteria to be the most useful is Strength, Agility, Agression, Techniques.
cool to see you break this down coach!
Thanks
Good review and accurate. I think the format actually turned out pretty cool, so Kudos for Rokas on that. I think it really shows the difference between sports and combat, not that it was their intended point. All the failures of these guys ( minus Chan) were due to their sport minded training and poor execution skills, even for their sport techniques. You rightly pointed out their failure to take the high position and I was surprised none of them did the ol’ stuff the torso in the leg area of the seat trick where the victim could be ruthlessly beat to submission. It think if they get some real self defense guys in there it could be a really good show. Someone should have pulled a concealed training weapon as well, because that is what would happen on a real bus fight. Maybe they could have the moderator randomly select a guy to receive it incognito…
Yep...a bit better in 2 at parts I'll break it down
@@موسى_7 self defense isnt fair. Reality is brutal. If they want to call it self defense they need to have realistic scenarios, otherwise it is just a game with little real world value
@@davefletch3063 100% should've had some GBB airsofts or actual firearms with simmunition in this, and hidden rubber knives.
I’m so grateful for your channel because of the perspective you bring to the table. Your dissenting opinion about these guys is refreshing.
When they do good I point it out part 2 is editing now
Looking forward to the second break down I liked this a lot.
thanks, tomorrow morning
Your analysis is what I imagine training with you would be like, precise and entertaining. Good stuff 👍
Glad you think so! Thanks
I hope these guys can look at least a tiny bit better going on! Please Like and leave a Comment at least I am the one honest breakdown on RUclips of these pretenders...
Would love to hear your thoughts on Ramsey's latest / last video about this whole thing. Seemed like it devolved overall. A big question is how well MMA mimics self defence - seems like having (real) MMA skills is a big bonus, but would love a more detailed take from someone like you who really knows?
@danielpollard7345 I commented on his vid. Also did all the breakdowns that probably covers it. Get my Combatives Instructional on BJJFANATICS to really learn. I'll probably do breakdowns on season 2 if people want it
I think Rokas video has a lot of bots or something. The comments seem suspicious. They say stuff like thIs is amazing, this is the best thing ever.
ok thanks
True to form Dan. No punches pulled.
punches are meant to punch, there is praise given out in Ep 2 as well though
I think there may have been some coping in the actual episode (on the martial arts journey channel) and on at least one other channel about how intentional the "guard pulling" was on the bus. It seemed to me that a lot of them were legitimately off balanced by the lurching of the bus since the driver was instructed to make the ride rough.
This may account for even Jeff's mistakes.
And on top of that in the second episode which is in a gym it seemed like there was more hesitancy to end up on bottom from all of them.
If a man can't stand he can't fight
FYI I filmed Ep 2 Breakdown before coming to work to protect a religious group and just watched a Ramsey vid...he says he had the bad lab c1984 Flu just before going to Australia and lost a ton of muscle weight and been fatigued...so I'm sorry I was a bit too hard first couple episodes but I take Self-Defense very seriously and my jobs are to protect people and he blows Self-Defense off.
I’d still like to see you compete in the next ultimate self defense championship or something similar. If those guys are as inadequate as you sayid like to see what the real deal looks like, and on the same playing field as a handful of others.
Your commentary was very fair for what was presented. With the exception of Jeff Chan this is a trainwreck .In 30 odd years we have gone from "In Action" challenges to dorks on a bus... a very clean bus btw Kind of feel like you or any Daido juku Blackbelt would have excelled in this episode because they spar in the gear. Would have been interested in one of Bill Kipps (Fast Defense)guys being there if its going to be a gear issue and a reaction time scenario type of thing. Im sure that blount weapon video is going to have the viewers craving a dog brother.
Will continue to watch you and David James for insight into Realistic training. Havent watched any of these guys since you enlightened us into their backgrounds. TY and Keep grinding Dan...
Who are those other guys? Seth and Ramsey have some entertaining vids
@@DanTheWolfman My error. I was referring to those Palladian press guys from the 90s. I probably should have said Peyton Quinn. They led this push for realistic scenario training in the pad man. They would hold seminars and put guests through pejorative filled scenes where they would stress test techniques and BlackBelts would get a wakeup call on simple gross motor movements over flash. I believe a certain famous Ninja was their biggest convert. Side issue one of them did a scenario self defense video with a Wing Chun guy and 2 others. Will try to find the title.
I like Seth probably more than the rest cause of his interaction with wonderboys camp. Just can't watch Dewey after thinking about what you said about his rank.
The dvd was Combatant...
Forgot Moni Azik from commando krav maga was in it...
Hi Dan which company do you work security for?
I work armed Security in GA
Stay safe. Just protected a religious group event that just finished
Icy mike really has ppl fooled. Don't understand how the majority of ppl voted for him to win when he is the smallest, an amateur kickboxer, and a white belt in jiu-jitsu.
He Is way less than even an Amateur kickboxer.....knowing some kempo and putting gloves on doesn't make you a Kickboxing coach it's disgusting. Putting his head down al the time scared to get hit
He flat out stinks.
Hes vocal, and has real world experience as a Cop.
i have never cried while laughing so much in my life, you're so funny
How so?
@@DanTheWolfman oh, your light jabs at icey mike
Dan, how many hand injuries if not wrapped and gloved?
I've hit Thai bags no gloves many times. Who cares.
Good coverage! No hate to these guys, but I heard no lies in the video
I reached out many time friendly to Ramsey, I was super nice to Rokas 1st time when he was Aiki boy and now tough love, fan of Jeff, Seth could woo me, and Mike is untrained
Really missed your shot with the high ground references. No Obi Wan Kenobi? That's like the most well known high ground situation. Starwars movies aren't great, and you're older so I get it. Princess bride is a better movie I would argue.
Lol you're right...but guys just sat or flopped instead of standing and throwing punches wtf
@@DanTheWolfman Yeah. It's fun to watch though and the production is pretty well done. I'm mainly only watching because Jeff Chan is there. I also thought it was somewhat interesting on the knife part how Jeff fought him and almost everyone else just gave him their "money" or whatever.
On a somewhat related note have you watched and of the car jitsu or telephone booth MMA stuff? There's a ton of weird and interesting fighting sports coming out of the eastern European areas right now.
Place your bets! Who do I praise and who do I dog in episode 2 Breakdown processing now?
praise Matt Clinton?
@@BrandonWilliams-wf6hg you will have to watch. Some get both praise and critique I fairly assess all
Hello, l'm pretty new to the channel, but l watched the video where you call icy mike and ramsey and the others out, and l liked a lot. BTW, don't you think mike not able to defend against a knife in the later episode was a bit weird? I mean, he was a police officer what the hell? Also, l've been wanting to go combat sports for a while, what would you recommend for a beginner: combat sambo or MMA? anyway, see ya... hope you have a great day/night
Welcome, Sub and check my Playlists. If you aren't in NY or Eastern Euro/Russia where are you going to find Combat Sambo? Approach things like an adult, you have a super computer
@@DanTheWolfman well, l'm not from US or North America, l'm in Bulgaria(Balkans), more or less Russia's brothers(or at least we call ourself that) there was a gym that teaches MMA,combat Sambo, Muay Thai, etc.
Very nice breakdown. Regardless of contestants chosen, I think overall Rokus did a great job formatting the show. I'm curious to hear actual reactions/feedback from all the competitors, as right now, Ramsey is the only one providing insight to the behind the scenes. Definitely, Rokus went for the established names, over quality fighters, but I think the main point to the competition... or at least my takeaway, is that becoming competent in a gym (which I would say they all are... even if only amateur... excluding Jeff, of course) doesn't mean you're some expert "real world" self-defense fighter, who can dominate street fights.
In many ways, watching this, was like watching MMA 1... and I really think Rokus is on to something with this competition.
I would absolutely love to see this thing be successful enough, to make recurring seasons.
Now, I don't watch any of them religiously... but my personal understanding is that most of these guys are basically knowledgeable hosts, running a business that while certainly above a McDojo "I'm too lethal for fighting"... they are by no means experts.
The only one I watch routinely is Ramsey Dewey, mainly because he does very nice explanations, and doesn't claim to be an expert... he has a legitimate fighting record, that unfortunately was ended abruptly by a pretty bad injury, leaving him partially blind... but he's still willing to get people interested in mma, and one of the few people finding legitamacies to traditional Asian Martial Arts... which is pretty cool. To my knowledge the only videos he's done, claiming to be an expert, are responses to viral, truly abhorrent or otherwise toxic self-defense videos, warning against such dangerous techniques.
That of course doesn't make him an expert... and it would have been nice to see someone like yourself, or other smaller youtuber, in the mix, next to Jeff.
Here's hoping for season 2! Take care my friend!
Thanks. I would add it does show one has to have a self-defense mindset...to believe it is actually a thing. Ramsey is MMA coach & BJJ Brown Belt and see how poorly he has done...so it's not automatic. Mike tried to make it seem like him being upside down twice was a good thing and he was close to armbars...F that Mfer fooling kids
@DanTheWolfman you're welcome, and certainly correct regarding the lack of experience and " self defense mindset" attitude. For what they are worth (I'm sure with many grains of salt) supposedly Ramsey said he was under the impression that self defense implied immobilizing your opponent, while minimalizing damage to yourself and opponent... emphasizing excessive use of force. Now, I can't speak to that, but I know police and security train extensively for what exactly self-defense and excessive-force entail... and I'm certain Ramsey doesn't have that training. I also know, in any competition, if rules are left to an individual's assumptions, then certainly there is a huge room for misunderstanding.
As for Mike, I've never watched his content... not really my genre... he definitely comes off as a stereotypical "tough guy" and if this competition shows anything... it's that you have to be able to back that attitude up... which it would seem Mike doesn't. One interjection I will make, is that Mike did release one video, evidently a few weeks ago, about episode 1, and does say he had 0 experience in such a situation, then goes on to say that while the first time on his back was an accident... for him it worked... so he continued to implement it from there on out, for each fight he was in, on the bus... so it was intentional.
To your points though... that doesn't make it a good idea at all... and as we see with Jeff, a little experience goes a very long way.
Take care Sir!
awesome, How you noticed that editing quality, It's probably what alot of these RUclipsrs Do?, to Try & make their videos more convincing, Then it really looks.
Ramsey did say on a different post that people were being thrown due to the bus sudden movements. So how are they supposed to have perfect technique when there are several variables from training on a plain mat under controlled environment?
In the end I do agree that Chen probably has the edge on all of them since he is a pro fighter and competing at that level can simulate stressors that others aren't as used to. Chen probably has the advantage on the mental game as well.
So it doesn't take a genius to know to stand up and stand in a wide strong stance
@@DanTheWolfmanOk fair enough. I vote for you going if they do a second season.
Before I watch the rest of this, I've already watched all of Rokas' videos and this is great at showcasing how being too sport focused will make you forget some very basic shit that will keep the blood inside your body in a real fight, always know where the weapon is at. If the guy got a knife you never let that hand go or get anywhere close to his other arm untill you've motivated the fucker to drop his weapon through sufficient knees to the balls or whatever. I was pretty frustrated watching some of these guys who I know are competent fighters just completely ignore the actual threat.
Can you upload your Kudo fights, perhaps with some commentary? It's a pretty cool sport but the rules seem a bit confusing at times.
Also, how would you say Kudo differentiates from Combat Sambo?
Look up DanTheWolfman Kudo, DanTheWolfman Daidojuku...find videos...find out self
I want to say one thing Rocas never said that they are specialist in self defense but youtube martial artist. I find this a difference. Ramsey Dewey say also in his video's self defense is a legal word. So people my think what they want but be honest.
I'm always honest watch your mouth...a SD championship maybe should have had at least 2 SD experts, people that have...had actual streetfights, bouncers, fought weapons and multiples for real like I have
@@DanTheWolfman but this is about youtube man that talk about martial arts and see what they do in this kind of situation..... Plus see the fun in it and dont take it serious. Almost every thing on youtube i take with a grain of salt...... plus i dont say that you are not honest but words can be wrong that says nothing about the person. I respect you ( more than the people in the video ) . Greetings from the Netherlands 🥋 OSU 🥋
@@katokianimation you say..... I say but with one tells the truth and nothing but the truth.🤣
i dont think anyone will call you a hater lol anyone with two eyes and bisping would see that the fighting was terrible aside from jeff. a few things tho ramsey just came off of no training and quarantine bc of china so thats why hes not the best despite being a now brown belt not a purple belt anymore. hes also retired and has loads of injuries. not making excuses for him thats just context. also mike disappointed me a lot with this tbh i expected sm more with the wild claims he makes. would love to see you on this show sometime if they can keep it going i think even in retirement if you trained for it youd do great
Thanks Ryan....if he been in lockdown how he brown belt now???? Really? He may have had jetlag this one but idk. Is lovkdown still going on I thought he got to 220 eating once per day?
@@DanTheWolfman he isn't but at the time of the video he just came back from lockdown, he got to 220 after these were filmed i believe. also he got brown belt a while ago
@@ryanliu494 I feel bad now didn't know he had bad flu...now u feel crappy
Question for @DanTheWolfman
These self proclaimed coaches were actually able to hang with Jeff Chan in this competition so surely that lends some credibility to their ability?
Yeah, no obviously they don't have anywhere near your scope of knowledge but honestly bro most people don't, you're an extreme example of someone who just dedicated their life to martial arts.
Quick Edit while I remember: Self Defense expert should not fall on his ass, Dan, we both know that shit happens, things don't always go the way we think they would, it's your ability to improvise, adapt and overcome with the skills you've got that determines if you can be called a ''self defense experts'' tbh.
Alternatively it'd be your ability to see the scenario that is about to play out in your head before it happens and getting yourself out of there, situational awareness is most important after all.
NO ONE Technically at all even close to Jeff., they couldn't hang 30 seconds with him, Mike was taken down and sidemounted in 16 seconds, Seth Armbarred in 19 seconds.....Seth and Rokas did ok for their low level. Sorry kid grow up and listen to an actual expert, not frauds like them.
@@DanTheWolfman We'll agree to disagree, I don't frequently watch them and I don't use their videos for anything more than entertainment, I train at several actual gyms under instructors who have trained under Pedro Sauer, Roger Gracie and John Will.
Edit: I realise now that I may have been unclear, what I meant by being ''able to hang'' with Jeff is that they were able to complete the same challenges with mixed results, obviously Jeff will whoop them in a fight, he's got an even bigger advantage against Ramsay who was a professional fighter but he got fucked up and he's got a blindspot in his eyes now, the medical term is is a ''scotoma'' which is a significant disadvantage.
I see where you're coming from though, they all made serious mistakes such as Seth going for the classic chicken wing grip like a school bully relying on his size rather than a martial artist who knows what he wants to do but I honestly think a lot of this comes from the fact that they don't have real life experience, it's all theoretical.
There is a reason I'm watching the videos of you breaking down all the episodes though, I want to hear your thoughts on how it all went down
🤣 ruclips.net/video/UFVAJT9wHoo/видео.html this is from a few years back, guy in black and red is me, not even remotely impressive performance but atleast I train and fight so I think I get to have my own opinion.
If you've ever got the time or feel bored enough to actually watch it feel free to break down the fight and point out all of our mistakes, I'd appreciate it even if it's a few years old.
@@DanTheWolfman After watching even more of you, how much would I have to pay to come out and train with you in the US? Like a full system run through, I'll pay for ammunition, siminution and sign whatever waivers for physical fighting, I know how to breakfall etc, I got all the basics needed for full contact training. You're one of a kind man.
Think like a training camp, I'm paying you to teach me 1 on 1 for 3 months. What is your time worth? If I can't afford it rn I'll save up for it if you're willing to give me 1 on 1 coaching. Obviously you are 100% free to record it for content as that will only give me something to look at in the future.
@Ratking what country are you from and what background checks do you pass and how many thousands can you count to?
@@DanTheWolfman I'm from Norway, I'll pass any background check to gain entrance to the U.S. beyond that I can't tell you, the norwegian government would give me ''Top Secret'' clearance based on being born as I am. I can count to as many thousands as you need me to 😆
Dan they are gonna do this again you should take part
Rokas now says he scared of me, and he would rather have a basketball player and a fake swearing punk monk
6:20 haha to be fair W had great timing on dodging that shoe
So while Ramsey talks about working out and looks good George W was a better athlete
@@DanTheWolfman I don't think you can become a cheerleader at Yale without great timing like ol 43
@@BrandonWilliams-wf6hg lol I didn't know that so that confirms it lol
@@DanTheWolfman once a cheerleader, always a cheerleader.
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Dan you love Seth, don't lie
He may grow on me, maybe he has gone in a better direction. His Systema and Sambo vids were good so I might watch some more of his stuff.
@@DanTheWolfman just found you mentioned having lupus in another video. My mom has it too and it makes her feel icy cold and exhausted. Extra gratitude to you for putting out videos and hope your health is well Wolfman!
@@hydroturd Thank you it's always a struggle. Had PT stuff and 1st mile jog since knee surgery yesterday to qualify to today has been rough. I've been cold a lot too as of late. Tell her I wish her well. I've worked hard last year to get down to very little prednisone but now my body makes very little cortisol so always in pain. Cheers
I need to see Dan on season 2 of the ultimate self defense championship, I'd pay for his tickets to australia myself if they don't want to take him.
I doubt they'll put Dan on S2 as it's already planned but this really can't be called the Ultimate Self Defense Championship without Dan.
Season 3 has to have Dan or Dan could crowdfund his own version, bring some actual guns with simmunition too.
I will be doing more simunitions shoot house training in a few weeks
i like seeing icy mike getting pounded on lol
i expected ramsey to do better but all that bjj leg wrapping didnt help him at first did it?
thats what happens when you're obsessed with only the sports aspects of bjj i guess
Yes...plus maybe he was legit sick leading into it just saw that last night. Some of it could be that but technique and tactics matter too
size matters
skill matters way more, then attributes...go train
The fighting was horrible but I still appreciate your commentary good job
Thank you
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FYI I was super nice 1st interview w Rokas who talks behind my back, sent many nice msgs & flower branches to Ramsey, called into Seth livestream in low-down, emailed w Jeff, Mike just really is sneaky and teaches others stuff wrong w no credit given...me and Gwrap Weapon retention creater...he hasn't been taught Kickboxing he learns off RUclips lol and badly
They look regularl people fighting in a bus... not special at all
People know to stand and Wang punches these guys don't lol
@@موسى_7 anybody can do that
Tell me you're bitter without telling me you're bitter.
I'm old, knowledgeable, and skilled. One day you will just be old.
This is not self-defense. It's MMA on a bus. If your goal is self-defense, then you should have hit the vitals to quickly incapacitate them. They might as well go to a cage to spar than do this.
Or like, stand and punch face...the ancient secret technique
@@DanTheWolfman You're right. I mean self-defense is not about scoring points but how well you protect yourself.
Please Comment guys...
Ramsey and Icy Mike religiously support the effectiveness of BJJ. It seemed like throughout this challenge they were trying to prove it works in situations like this and were falling on their backs all the time.
That's not jiu-jitsu dude I am a black belt they are pretenders
@@DanTheWolfman Definitely you being a lot more experienced would know better what is or isn't BJJ and would perhaps use different techniques and react differently and being an actual practitioner you'd see it from a different perspective. That's why I find your commentary very interesting and largely eye opening. But nevertheless, as a spectator, watching hundreds of BJJ vids, whether it's ring fights or tutorial or other, the tendency of BBJ practitioners to fall on their backs and try to fight from there is objectively more than evident. The Gracies spent most of their matches with Sakuraba on their backs. Ramsey and Icy Mike are always ecstatic about BJJ. Whatever their experience with the system is, it really seemed that they were more focused on validating BJJ within the bus scenario rather than adopting to the situation.
If Ramsey wants to make nice and discuss martial arts both me and Viking Samurai have offered. I like him. ROKAS should talk to me about MMA, BJJ, self defense lol not make his followers think I'm an aikido instructor all about aikido last long interview
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Dan nice job. They are forgetting in a real fight no pads. A good hitter like you friend that study from the Russian Arts can knock a person out. And if you don't know how to hit you brake a hand. I know you know what you are talking about. Seen you work on RUclips and listen to what you say. You have done your homework for sure. Nice job again. Have a nice night.
Thanks Paul, you too, hit the Reminder Bell for part 2 tomorrow morning 11am est
So are you going to put your hat in the ring for season 2? Or just hide behind the screen with your armchair commentary?
Hide behind the screen? lol I fought 3 of the most experienced Pro Fighters in the world..still...to this day with over 300 pro fights between them lol. I talk nice to Jeff whose school it is, and Rokas well..I've been very nice when he is respectful. So yes. Can I stay with you when I come? I'm down for dual citizenship what about you?
Put your money where your mouth is and your more than welcome to stay in my guest bedroom.
I was subscribed to all these guys for over a year. Episode one of the championship, and I realized I'm a better fighter than everyone there. And I'm definitely not an expert. Jeff Chan has good skill, but I'm too big for that to be fair. If he were my size, he may actually have more than a 50/50 chance on me. But the rest were a total disappointment. Rokas is fairly humble, and so I can't really hate on him, but I'm gravely dissatisfied with the rest.
Lol...you need a major reality check bro...Jeff Chan would smoke you every which way...Pro and Brown Belt and super athletic...just lols.. go visit a good BJJ school and get choked out...go spar even a good amatuer MMA fighter than decide if you think you should really try a pro...come on now...Post seriously. Have you even done a Boxing or Muay Thai smoker?
Have you considered entering the next ultimate self defense championship. It’s easy to criticize when you’re not in there. I’d like to see how you would do.
Yeah, I've only fought multiple attackers and vs stick knife and gun real life.
Then doing the ultimate self defense championship would be no big deal. Honestly, this started with me just wanting to see what really works. You claim these guys suck so I got really really curious. If you have the answers, I’m in. But now it looks like there’s nothing but claims and excuses. Those guys put their money where their mouths are. It costs you nothing to sit back and criticize. Again, if you do know something they don’t, I’m in. Just put ur money where your mouth is. Enter a level playing field with all those “fake instructors” so we can compare. If ur really that much better, you should win easily, no problem.
@Matt Barnes ahmm .I fought TOP Pro Fighters professionally, bounced, and armed guard that has 4 black belts u troll think critically and do research. I have the highest rated self-defense instructional on bjjfanatics. Yes I would do a lot better but Rokas is scared I'd hurt him he has said so
I just want to see what you’ve come up with. if you are as confident as you come across then why does something like the ultimate self defense championship upset u so much? I don’t know u from Adam. I can’t take ur word for it. The in action series the Gracies put out was a game changer for me. They talked smack but then they backed it up. I was just hoping to see the same from you. I’m going to leave you be now. We’re both just wasting our time. If you’re really that much more advanced please consider participating in the ultimate self defense championship or something similar. I really am curious to see what you may have figured out.
Agreed