Marvelous! This is great music (although I prefer Brahms's 'little' piano pieces -- ballades, intermezzi, ... -- to his piano sonatas). May I take this opportunity to congratulate 'olla-vogala' on such high-quality videos. Each is a labor of love (including the copious, elaborate notes on the music).
quelle magie dans les sonates de brahms ,, des compositions qui ne ressemblent à nulle autre ,, la révolution musicale dans le plus pur classicisme viennois ,, une merveille ,, et le pianiste joue prodigieusement merci
suayasia siboney decuba C'est Le compositeur par exelence ou tout les soit disant specialistes considerent comme sur évalué.. Depuis 10 piges que j'etudie son œuvre, je cri haut et fort : Brahms et l'un des compositeur les plus sous evalué au monde. Et je ne connais aucun compositeur qui ai aussi bien reuni vie et architecture. Meme pas Schuman
l'atmosphère de cette sonate est unique dans tout le répertoire. Comment évoquer cet univers par des mots? C'est orageux, mégalithique et tempêtueux à souhait, et surtout saturé de la mémoire de héros tombés dans des combats titanesques, dans des marécages obscurcis par des nuages noirs remplissant tout l'espace jusqu'à l'horizon désert du Holstein, la patrie de Brahms...
Brahms has a dramatic flavour and so he has many themes that are heavy..to hear and to play. His piano dtyle and techniques are not inferior to anyone. It requires a lot of concentration to listen and to play Brahms. Not all his works are like these two sonatas, his later works are more lighter in texture. These two seem to have in common with his iano concerto they have little in common with the works of Beethoven and Liszt.
Every time I hear this sonata it sounds like it isn't in 3/4 because in the main theme, people hold the 1st chord a little too long so every time that theme comes in it seems out of time
+Raphael Cedric I believe it is, in my opinion, lack of care with accent marks of triplets and normal eighths .. Sorry my poor english. Im from brazil.
It seems like all the hallmarks of Brahms' compositional style can be found in this youthful sonata--the rhythmic and metrical complexity, reliance upon folk material for themes, and the interrelation of themes between movements. And this like his other early pieces are over the top with passionate, rhetorical sweep.
Vent'anni dopo la prima grande sonata di Schumann, l'avvento di Brahms porta nuova e vigorosa linfa alla sonata per pianoforte; una forma che sarà ripresa e mantenuta a livelli di alta qualità successivamente solo da pochi altri : Anton Rubinstein soprattutto.
My fingers won't go where Brahms wrote this music, couldn't get the hang of Brahms even as a young kid taking piano lessons. Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and Chopin came easily.............
Funny thing is that all the authors mentioned never wrote for the modern piano except the last Chopin's works. Brahms sure he did wrote for the modern piano.
it s so chopinian and schumann, zero liszt, and inspired so much tchaikovsky, althought tcai say that hate brahms music.... (a lie, it was envy, believe me)
Brahms' works are Beethovenian in form. but not inspiration. Brahms was from North Germany and you can hear a more muscular, Nordic gruffness in the melodies
these accents bothered me deeply. tuplets like normal eighth notes and eighth notes like a 6/8. curiously interpretation, but this (in the first movement) bothered me a lot.
I really don't like his tone production. He's banging the keys.. I usually don't compare between pianist but due performance... Listen to gilels in Brhams... His forte is much softer and overwhelming ..
in fast parts, a bit too fast and too much rubato.... he is too much flexible on the tempo it seems almost as if the whole rhythming is wrong. just my conservative opinion
Okay, It's such a forced sonata, seriously, where is the melody? It's so full of boring motifs that I can barely listen to the sonata. This shows that he is extremely beethovenian lol. But seriously There is nothing but the same dry noise octave theme that always repeats in the beginning. As Liszt said, it is meticulously prepared but not at all interesting. The second movement, while promising at the beginning, suddenly faded away. It's like sounds that evoke and disappear from somewhere deep inside. Funny thing is the scherzo has the only melody available here lol. The middle part was good. For the finale, it is obvious that Brahms refers to Beethoven a lot here. But how can I say it, it is a movement that is completely drowned in scattered motifs and doesnt tell u a story much. The only thing is the on the beginning he refers clara theme (Schumann's impromptu on clara wieck the beginning theme). The beginning sounds Beethovenian, the rest sounds Schumannesque. Finale is as like same with brother: the first movement, which is dry and noisy in boring minutes I know brahms wrote that when he is 19 which is also impressive. But still not make that sonata is masterpiece.
Marvelous! This is great music (although I prefer Brahms's 'little' piano pieces -- ballades, intermezzi, ... -- to his piano sonatas).
May I take this opportunity to congratulate 'olla-vogala' on such high-quality videos. Each is a labor of love (including the copious, elaborate notes on the music).
This a symphony. Should be transcribed!
quelle magie dans les sonates de brahms ,, des compositions qui ne ressemblent à nulle autre ,, la révolution musicale dans le plus pur classicisme viennois ,, une merveille ,, et le pianiste joue prodigieusement merci
suayasia siboney decuba C'est Le compositeur par exelence ou tout les soit disant specialistes considerent comme sur évalué.. Depuis 10 piges que j'etudie son œuvre, je cri haut et fort : Brahms et l'un des compositeur les plus sous evalué au monde.
Et je ne connais aucun compositeur qui ai aussi bien reuni vie et architecture. Meme pas Schuman
1 May 2016. Late Sunday evening. Just finished listening to your upload of Brahms's first piano sonata, and decided to go on to #2.
l'atmosphère de cette sonate est unique dans tout le répertoire. Comment évoquer cet univers par des mots? C'est orageux, mégalithique et tempêtueux à souhait, et surtout saturé de la mémoire de héros tombés dans des combats titanesques, dans des marécages obscurcis par des nuages noirs remplissant tout l'espace jusqu'à l'horizon désert du Holstein, la patrie de Brahms...
Many thanks for the upload. No one plays this sonata quite as well as Rosel.
ブラームスの若き日の入魂曲ですね。配信ありがとうございます。
19 anni....e un gran bel comporre!!
Fulvio Polce So che è giusto!
Brahms has a dramatic flavour and so he has many themes that are heavy..to hear and to play. His piano dtyle and techniques are not inferior to anyone. It requires a lot of concentration to listen and to play Brahms. Not all his works are like these two sonatas, his later works are more lighter in texture. These two seem to have in common with his iano concerto they have little in common with the works of Beethoven and Liszt.
Every time I hear this sonata it sounds like it isn't in 3/4 because in the main theme, people hold the 1st chord a little too long so every time that theme comes in it seems out of time
+Raphael Cedric I believe it is, in my opinion, lack of care with accent marks of triplets and normal eighths ..
Sorry my poor english. Im from brazil.
It seems like all the hallmarks of Brahms' compositional style can be found in this youthful sonata--the rhythmic and metrical complexity, reliance upon folk material for themes, and the interrelation of themes between movements. And this like his other early pieces are over the top with passionate, rhetorical sweep.
Beautiful ! Thank you for uploading :)
Vent'anni dopo la prima grande sonata di Schumann, l'avvento di Brahms porta nuova e vigorosa linfa alla sonata per pianoforte; una forma che sarà ripresa e mantenuta a livelli di alta qualità successivamente solo da pochi altri : Anton Rubinstein soprattutto.
Brahms was one of most greats of composers of the history almost as Beethoven or Wagner
My fingers won't go where Brahms wrote this music, couldn't get the hang of Brahms even as a young kid taking piano lessons. Mozart, Beethoven, Bach and Chopin came easily.............
Funny thing is that all the authors mentioned never wrote for the modern piano except the last Chopin's works. Brahms sure he did wrote for the modern piano.
If you can play Chopin's hardest things - you can for sure play this!
8:01 how in the heck did Brahms become the 19th century's Scriabin?!!
Lindo dia ,muy bueno tu repertorio
After hearing the first 30 seconds, I would have guess this was a piano concerto of some kind.
Grande musica!!!
maurizio zaccaria Brahms e il miglior compositore.
Bien interpretada la dulzura Brehmas
Which part of non troppo didn't the pianist understand? He also makes some unnecessary accents. I like his tone though
Brahms writes sonata in which the melodies are very similar to Beethoven's sonatas, with a pinch of Liszt.
it s so chopinian and schumann, zero liszt, and inspired so much tchaikovsky, althought tcai say that hate brahms music.... (a lie, it was envy, believe me)
His ideal is to receive them directly from God.
Brahms' works are Beethovenian in form. but not inspiration. Brahms was from North Germany and you can hear a more muscular, Nordic gruffness in the melodies
Me gusta Brahms al despertar
Tienes la de Los Pachitos ?me gusto
these accents bothered me deeply. tuplets like normal eighth notes and eighth notes like a 6/8.
curiously interpretation, but this (in the first movement) bothered me a lot.
Why oh why did Brahms not write more sonatas (I know why, but in my opinion, it was a lame excuse not to!)
It's Rosel - or don't bother! 8 D
BRAHMS
Estoy completamente de acuerdo!
I'd love to see those alternate renderings of the last page of the scherzo. Any idea if they've been published?
+cufflink44 Sorry, I don't know. You could try some libraries to see if they have it, or maybe there's something available on the web.
I can’t help but hear some Schumann in this
Beginning of the Finale: Mussorgsky?... 🙃
Unokatestvéred???
Roth C0nstanzo
I really don't like his tone production.
He's banging the keys..
I usually don't compare between pianist but due performance... Listen to gilels in Brhams...
His forte is much softer and overwhelming ..
Brahms can always use some manly vigor. Bang away!
in fast parts, a bit too fast and too much rubato.... he is too much flexible on the tempo it seems almost as if the whole rhythming is wrong. just my conservative opinion
Well, pianists don't like to have too steady tempo or too wobbly tempo, but enough flexibility to give the tempo meaning or form.
Rubato is everything. Go listen to machinery.
Okay, It's such a forced sonata, seriously, where is the melody? It's so full of boring motifs that I can barely listen to the sonata. This shows that he is extremely beethovenian lol. But seriously There is nothing but the same dry noise octave theme that always repeats in the beginning. As Liszt said, it is meticulously prepared but not at all interesting. The second movement, while promising at the beginning, suddenly faded away. It's like sounds that evoke and disappear from somewhere deep inside. Funny thing is the scherzo has the only melody available here lol. The middle part was good. For the finale, it is obvious that Brahms refers to Beethoven a lot here. But how can I say it, it is a movement that is completely drowned in scattered motifs and doesnt tell u a story much. The only thing is the on the beginning he refers clara theme (Schumann's impromptu on clara wieck the beginning theme). The beginning sounds Beethovenian, the rest sounds Schumannesque. Finale is as like same with brother: the first movement, which is dry and noisy in boring minutes
I know brahms wrote that when he is 19 which is also impressive. But still not make that sonata is masterpiece.
listen to Zimerman…
@@morganbranzagliaa ew gross, i prefer listen silence
All subjective, a lot of Liszt and Chopin comes over as noodling to me.
much ado about nothing...
He was very young when he wrote this. A genius' teenage angst. : )