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Dividend Discount Model - Commercial Bank Valuation (FIG)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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    Why the Dividend Discount Model (DDM) is used to value commercial banks instead of the traditional Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) analysis.
    By breakingintowallstreet.com/ "Financial Modeling Training And Career Resources For Aspiring Investment Bankers"
    There are 3 main reasons why the DCF and the concept of Free Cash Flow (FCF) do not apply to commercial banks:
    1. You can't separate operating vs. investing vs. financing activities - the lines are very blurry for a bank, since items like debt are more operationally-related and fund the bank's lending activities.
    2. CapEx doesn't represent re-investment in the business, as it does for a normal company - for a bank,"re-investment" means hiring people, doing more lending, etc.
    3. Working Capital represents something much different for a bank - the standard definition of Current Assets Excl. Cash Minus Current Liabilities Excl. Debt makes no sense, because for banks that includes tons of investments, securities, other borrowings, etc. so you could see massive swings...
    What You Do Instead - Use Dividends as a Proxy for Free Cash Flow
    Why? Because banks are CONSTRAINED by capital requirements - according to the Basel accords (I, II, III), they must maintain a certain "buffer" at all times to cover unexpected losses on their loans...
    So just like CapEx requirements, Net Income growth, and Working Capital constrain FCF for normal companies, the Tier 1 Capital / Tangible Common Equity / Total Capital requirements constrain dividends for banks.
    So we'll project a bank's regulatory capital, its asset growth, and its net income, and use those to project its dividends - then, discount, and sum up the dividends and discount and add the NPV of its terminal value.
    How to Set Up a Dividend Discount Model (DDM)
    1. Make assumptions for Total Assets, Asset Growth, targeted Tier 1 (or other) Ratios, Risk-Weighted Assets, Return on Assets (ROA) or Return on Equity (ROE), and Cost of Equity.
    2. Next, project Assets and Risk-Weighted Assets.
    3. Then, project Net Income based on ROA or ROE.
    4. Then, project Shareholders' Equity (AKA Tier 1 Capital) based on targeted capital ratio...
    5. And BACK INTO dividends! Different from a normal company's DDM!
    Set dividends such that the minimum capital ratio is maintained, based on starting Shareholders' Equity and Net Income that year.
    6. Flesh out the rest of the model - stats, growth rates, other metrics.
    7. Discount and sum up dividends.
    8. Calculate, discount, and add Terminal Value so that NPV = NPV of Terminal Value + NPV of All Dividends.
    9. Calculate the Implied Share Price and compare to actual Share Price.
    Is the bank undervalued? Overvalued? What are the clues so far?
    What Next?
    Try it with a real company, using its historical financial information.
    Add more complex / realistic assumptions, based on industry research, channel checks, the bank's own strengths/weaknesses, etc.
    Add more advanced features - other ways to calculate Terminal Value, more accurate regulatory capital, mid-year discount and/or stub periods, stock issuances / repurchases, multiple growth stages, and so on.

Комментарии • 59

  • @TheMoliku
    @TheMoliku 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you so much for teaching about Banking Valuation. That is easy to understand.

  • @altynayshuakhbayeva5022
    @altynayshuakhbayeva5022 2 года назад

    it was a great help. Thank you very much💚💚💚

  • @Bertztuful
    @Bertztuful 5 лет назад +3

    Hii , the video was really nice, would you please comment on the following questions regarding commercial bank valuation
    1) Should Deposits drive or determine the Advances or vice versa ? Which one should be projected first ?
    2) How should the Terminal value be determined ? For perpetuity method , how should a Sustainable growth rate be calculated since the typical SGR formula won't work
    3) It is said that since a most of a bank's assets are monetary and marked to market, their value is close to book value. By that logic, a bank's justified P/BV should be 1, what if it is not close to 1? Can it still be justified or is it an indication of over /under valuation

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  5 лет назад

      1) You can use either one because Deposits and Loans are always linked. Most models assume Loan Growth and then make Deposits a % of Loans. But as long as they are linked in some way, either one is fine.
      2) You can calculate the Terminal P / TBV or P / BV multiple based on the final year Net Income Growth, ROE or ROTCE, and Cost of Equity. The formula is: (ROE or ROTCE - Net Income Growth) / (Cost of Equity - Net Income Growth). And then multiply that by the final year BV or TBV.
      3) A bank's P / BV might not be close to 1 if it's ROE or ROTCE is higher than those of peer companies, even though its risk (discount rate) is about the same. For example, the bank could be growing more quickly than similar companies because it is using a different business model or superior sales/marketing strategy.

  • @justincredible00715
    @justincredible00715 7 лет назад +2

    Thank you for the video. Very informative.
    Do commercial banks warrant using a higher discount rate to account for a higher risk premium of holding so many intangible assets on their b/s?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  7 лет назад +1

      No. If anything, the Cost of Equity is often lower for commercial banks because they issue dividends more predictably than other companies, and their share prices grow at a more predictable rate... depending on the market/region/company size, of course. But a lot of regional commercial banks in the U.S. have a Cost of Equity of between 8% and 10%, which is lower than many other sectors.

  • @nataliacarvajal5794
    @nataliacarvajal5794 2 года назад +4

    Thank you very much! I've never valuated a bank before but I was given a commercial bank valuation case for an investment banking interview. This tutorial is very clear and helpful! I just have one curiosity... Would it be also okay to use the perpetuity value to determine the terminal value?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  2 года назад +2

      If you mean "the perpetuity growth rate to determine the terminal value," then yes.

  • @safeershahid9150
    @safeershahid9150 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for making these videos easy to understand please its a request provide excel or practice sheet as well for practice.

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  5 месяцев назад

      If you click "More" or "Show More" below the video, you can scroll down and find links to the files and resources where applicable (we don't have them for every video in this channel).

  • @neenyiayirebi-acquah8366
    @neenyiayirebi-acquah8366 5 лет назад +2

    Hi, thanks for such a great tutorial. Can you do something similar for insurance companies?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks. We do have a few sample lessons for insurance companies on our site... search for "insurance financial modeling" to find them.

  • @financialmodeling
    @financialmodeling  9 лет назад

    +Jonathan McHugh This one is not available, but we may make available an alternative model in the future.

    • @ravidesai4484
      @ravidesai4484 8 лет назад

      Any news on the alternative model?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  8 лет назад

      Please see the sample lessons for our Bank Modeling course.

    • @Marina-cr7sd
      @Marina-cr7sd 4 года назад +1

      Did you make an alternative model? Is it available now? Tnx!

  • @Outsider-jp7dg
    @Outsider-jp7dg Год назад +1

    Thank you very much for this video! Any resources for the valuation of insurance companies? Thank you!

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Год назад

      We have a very brief tutorial on insurance companies in our Bank Modeling course, but it is literally just a crash course with a few simplified models. We hope to create more of a full-fledged insurance course in the future. I don't think there are many detailed insurance courses out there because it's very niche, but if you want a book on the topic, check out:
      www.amazon.com/Valuation-Financial-Companies-Techniques-Institutions/dp/1118617339/
      It's not perfect, but it has the best short overview I've seen of both banks and insurance companies.

  • @vivianeze4889
    @vivianeze4889 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this tutorial. What happens where the dividends calculated is rather positive for instance in the starting period. What does that imply?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  4 месяца назад

      ??? Not really sure what you mean. The Dividends should never be a positive on the statements. Use MIN/MAX functions to enforce negative or 0 for Dividends because they cannot be positive on the CFS.

  • @davytran8631
    @davytran8631 3 года назад +1

    thank you

  • @medetyertayev2470
    @medetyertayev2470 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for such an exhaustive video! I am curious what shall we do if we don't know the amount of dividends paid, because it is a private bank and there is no such information. For example, in 2022, a company X purchased 100% shares of the bank from a company Y. But in 2021, the bank paid as dividends 99.97% of its income after corporate taxes to the company Y.
    Also, in 2022, a new law was introduced stating that no more than 50% of income should be paid as dividends.
    Shall I take the dividends just as the half of the income?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  8 месяцев назад

      All you can really do is back into the Dividends based on all those requirements, such as Dividends as a % of Net Income and the targeted CET 1 and other regulatory capital levels. If the bank is private, you still need its financial statements to do any modeling work. If there are no financials or even summary information on the loans, deposits, equity, etc., you can't value the bank, and it is all just guesswork.

  • @simon4452
    @simon4452 8 лет назад

    Hey,
    Which source/DDM-theory is the foundation/ground pillars of your template? Or is it a kind of "common sense" approach?
    - Simon

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  8 лет назад

      +Simon Davidsen It is the approach used by most banks and other finance firms. We dislike relying too much on theory because it often leads to recommendations that aren't practical in real life.

  • @bingyolamiryan3223
    @bingyolamiryan3223 6 лет назад

    Couldn’t you give a link, for reading materials? Thank you

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  6 лет назад +1

      Please see the coverage of FIG on M&I for additional sources (you can do a search on the site).

  • @edenpanigel
    @edenpanigel 5 дней назад +1

    The calculation is incorrect because when you multiply the tier 1 ratio with the RWA you get the total tier 1 capital (CET1 AND AT1) thats not shareholders equity, the approach should be different

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  5 дней назад

      This is a video from over a decade ago before the Basel III rules went into full effect in the 2015 - 2019 period. Please see the recent regulatory capital / Silicon Valley Bank video from last year for more recent treatment of this topic. The approach shown here is deliberately simplified / needs to be adjusted today, but the basic principles are still true (i.e., back into the allowed dividends based on the regulatory capital targets and net income generated in the period).

  • @sitemp1
    @sitemp1 7 лет назад +2

    The excel file would be of great help! The tutorial is fantastic thanks a lot!

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  7 лет назад +1

      This one is not available, but please see some of the samples in our Bank Modeling course for examples.

  • @simon4452
    @simon4452 8 лет назад

    Is this what you would categorise as a two staged dividend discount model ?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  8 лет назад

      +Simon Davidsen Technically, yes, because the Terminal Period counts as another stage, but this is really more like a one-stage model because there is only one stage for the actual net income and dividend projections.

  • @vaibhavkalwadkar5492
    @vaibhavkalwadkar5492 5 лет назад

    Is this technique applicable for Indian Equity Market as well ?

  • @JimTheProducer
    @JimTheProducer 2 года назад

    Where do you get that blue highlight box tool?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  2 года назад

      It's part of the Camtasia Studio recording tool we use.

  • @Vezarici
    @Vezarici 7 лет назад

    Good video!
    Please, how can you estimate the RWA ? why you choosed 60%?
    THank you!

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  7 лет назад

      You have to look at the company's filings to determine this or use numbers from peer companies.

    • @Vezarici
      @Vezarici 7 лет назад

      where in the filling i can find the numbers ?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  7 лет назад +2

      Well, let's see... maybe do a search for "Risk-Weighted Assets" to start with... or look for the ratios, such as "Common Equity Tier 1" and find the number there.

    • @Vezarici
      @Vezarici 7 лет назад +1

      Yes, i see thank you so much for responding. But the problem is how to estimate RWA in the future ? Does it depends on inflation ? What are the factors we can use to forecast RWA in the future ?

    • @Vezarici
      @Vezarici 7 лет назад +1

      Thank you,

  • @Vezarici
    @Vezarici 6 лет назад +1

    Hi,
    Could you please tell me the difference between core tier 1 and tier 1 capital ?
    Do you consider these formaulas true :
    Core Tier Capital = Share capital + Disclosed reserves (legal reserves, surplus and/or retained profits) - Goodwill - Investments in unconsolidated banking and financial subsidiary companies and investments in the capital of other banks & financial institutions
    Tier 1 Capital = Core Tier 1 + Qualifying Hybrid Securities and Non-controlling Interests
    Thank you

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  6 лет назад

      Core Tier 1 is not used anymore since Basel III changed the terminology and rules. Please see our Bank Modeling course or the samples on the page. The categories are now Tangible Common Equity (TCE), Common Equity Tier 1 (CET 1), Tier 1, Tier 2, and Total Capital. CET 1 is basically Common Shareholders' Equity minus Goodwill & Intangibles + Qualifying Portion of Noncontrolling Interests, and sometimes other adjustments. Tier 1 Capital = CET 1 + Preferred Stock + Another Qualifying Portion of NCI (calculated differently).

  • @rieno4443
    @rieno4443 Год назад

    Can you send us the excel through the link? I really appreciate your works and need for assignment

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Год назад

      This one no longer exists, but you can find a more complex version for a real company here: breakingintowallstreet.com/kb/bank-modeling/dividend-discount-model-example-banks/

  • @Black182heart
    @Black182heart 4 года назад

    The 2 Banks I am analysing has RWA greater than its total assets. I am so confused. 172 billion in Total assets and 208 billion of total risk exposure How is that possible? When I checked some items, some investment of the banks have risk weight of 150%. How do I move forward from the first step in this case? Any help will be appreciated.
    Am I getting something wrong? I tried searching for answers on the Internet but could not find any. So in desperation made a comment on a 7 years old video.

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  4 года назад +2

      It's possible if the risk-weight percentage is higher than 100%. You can still calculate all the ratios and other metrics the same way. All that means is that the bank will need to maintain a lot more in regulatory capital in the projections.

    • @Black182heart
      @Black182heart 4 года назад +1

      @@financialmodeling thank you. Wasn't expecting a reply. Glad you cleared some confusions.

  • @erickmokayacfa4985
    @erickmokayacfa4985 8 лет назад +1

    Is it possible to access the Excel file?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  8 лет назад

      This one is not available, but there are similar Excel files elsewhere in this channel. There are also examples in the sample video links for our Bank Modeling course.

  • @moyaninvest9773
    @moyaninvest9773 5 лет назад

    how to get the excel template ?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  5 лет назад

      It's not available for this one, but there are similar examples on M&I and BIWS... search for "FIG" or "Dividend Discount Model"