I bought a rooted raven zz cutting and it took 18 months to start showing growth but I'm so excited to see it finally show a lime green stem. The colors are awesome. Was worth the wait.
When I was little my grandma had just come out of running her own greenhouse. The way she dealt with pests of any type was to put the plants in trash bags and spray inside with raid and leave it over night. Outside of my using hydrogen peroxide, this is basically what I do, except since I've got big plants I put them all in the center of the room (away from pets!) spray the top of the soil and then kinda fog around them and cover with an old sheet for the night. Surprisingly, I haven't even made the fiddles mad doing this yet, so for me this is the most effective way and seems to work fairly long term between treatments! I use the house and garden raid. I wish I had done it sooner when I was being tortured by thousands of fungus gnats last spring. She also would reuse soil and would put it in the oven on baking sheets to help kill off any yuckies, then add nutrients back with fertilizer. With the number of pants she had that made sense. I haven't done it but I don't have rooms of seedlings 🩷
Thank you Jeff. I recently gifted a ZZ Zenzi to my daughter, I shard your video with her so she could learn how to take care of her plant. I find that you give very through information on the plants you feature and I greatly appreciate that ! Thanks again! ❄️💚🙃
I planted some epi pinnatum with my Raven zz so I can tell when the soil is dry easily (and to hasten the drying process as well. When the pinnatum leaves in the pot start drooping, I wait 1 more week then I fully bottom water the pot. It shot out 5 new stems this month after pruning 2 stems. It got some root rot/dessication last January and the stems became super wrinkled and indented, that's when I planted the pinnatum in the pot, and started bottom watering to also prevent root dessication/uneven watering. No issues since then and stems are plump and firm again. :)
Thank you for this! I recently purchased a Raven ZZ and have been curious when to tell its time to water. Always so thorough and full of useful information! Keep up the amazing work!!
Thanks Jeff for the info! I've watched a few of your VLOGs , finally subscribed. (Just paused and checked the stems like you described. With PON I can't tell if it's moist, so I've been watering once every 25-30 days with a post-it note reminding me, stems are not showing dry) I really enjoy my Raven, Chameleon, and a Variegated leaf props (that finally started popping up) (All in PON). I started my Chameleon and Raven leaf props MONTHS ago in moss. Seeing the small rhyzomes but afraid of taking the next step.
Put your cuttings in moist potting soil. Covering them will give them humidity. Give them warmth from the bottom and a grow light. Feed them nutrients after they develop roots or a rhizome. Your cuttings will thrive under those conditions.
was looking for advice about my sad, dying zz raven and 6 min in you solved my problem!! My plant has been sitting in direct sunlight for the past week or so because i’m in the process of moving out & forgot about it. It rapidly declined in health this month because of that, and i never made the connection about over-saturating it with sunlight until this video. I’m glad i found this video, thank you!!!! 💚💚🌿🌿
Winter growth for ZZ has always been my experience too. I think it's in their DNA that they are living on the other side of the world! I love ZZs and have quite a few. I have tried propagating and agree with you. Too long, lost interest! If you really want to see some growth, put it outside in the summer in a semi-shaded or filtered sun location. They love the heat of summer. Just be prepared they will turn into monsters! Unlike indoors, I water them ever singly day when they are outside. Indoors I do the same as you, water thoroughly then no water for about a month.
I have a Raven ZZ which, for over two years, had just been sitting there, no signs of growth. About two months ago she finally has four new shoots! They’re quite lovely. I have a “regular” ZZ which I’ve been struggling to get to thrive; I think I’ve been underwatering her for of overwatering. I’ll have to pay more attention. As always, you presentation is thorough and clear. Thank you!
I bought my Raven ZZ when the Covid vaccine first came out and it’s been sitting around all this time not doing anything! I was happy to see three new shoots recently…one of them is just starting to leaf out that beautiful bright green. Love the contrast 💚☘️
I have both of my zz's in PON and they are loving life with tons of new growth in the past month. The PON is continuously moist and the zz's love it ❤️
All my plants arbthriving except my ZZ Raven. It got too dry and got dry rot and lost a few stems. So this summer I water it weekly and it’s finally growing. I keep it in my sunroom 6 feet away from a south facing window and it’s in a very well draining cacti soil mix amended with extra perlite
Be happy with smaller size ZZ plants when they get bigger they tend to get heavy stems often tipping to the sides of the pot. I have purchased retaining circular stakes that works well.
Ravens can definitely test your patience! I've had mine for 4 years now; it had 6 stalks when I bought it, lost 3 over the first year, did nothing over year 2 and grew one new stalk year 3.... Now, spring of year 4, it has 2 new stalks growing! I was thrilled at that until I realised that I probably would have to repot it this summer... Ravens really don't like to be disturbed. 😮 Now I'm thinking that maybe I'll wait a year, or two, before I repot it. 😂
Hi Jeff, I love raven ZZ plants. Great video . I did have 2 but somehow I didn't take care of them . Thinking of buying another plant. Yours look great. Have a nice day.😊
I’m so jealous. My Raven ZZ has done NOTHING. I’ve had it over a year now, and I don’t think it’s grown a leaf! On the flip side, it hasn’t lost a leaf either… just sat there. I’ve increased light, decreased watering, I guess my only other attempt is to repot it and see if that’ll spur some growth.
I've heard that with ZZ you kinda need to make them think they are in danger of dying to get any activity. Once I heard this I started to just water my regular zz when the moisture meter was around 2. Then a thorough water and then ignore again. I've got two new shoots finally. Mine had a lot of die back initially and I lost all the original leaves so I'm pretty sure I was loving it to death 😬 despite the lack of growth on top it's becoming difficult to find a spot I can wiggle the moisture meter in which tells me that the rhizomes are growing under the soil. I don't have a raven yet, I have only seen them online and they're like 50 dollars plus shipping so I am waiting to see one in store. Recently I found a philodendron pink princess at the grocery store so I'm sure the ZZ Raven is on its way! 🩷
@@MarisaAndChew I’m definitely in “ignore” mode now… hoping it either grows or dies. Interesting how different availability is by country. I got my raven over a year ago in a big-box store with a nice 6” ceramic cover pot for US$20
@@krisfarnsworth620 in in Canada but I live in a small town, we don't even have a Walmart Supercenter, just a basic one, and they rarely bring in houseplants. The home type stores also don't bring in house plants often, just bedding plants. So I either have to order online, or risk boutique prices 😱 or wait for the nursery to open in the spring and see what they have for inside plants, they close through winter. I could drive 3 hours one way to the city and have a lot of options and big box stores but inventory is not guaranteed and with gas prices the way they are, and then needing to eat etc it would prob be cheaper to not spend a whole day looking for a plant in the city 🤣
Mine is giant and healthy and I kind of ignore it 😅😂. I mixed it with a regular ZZ so it looks like it’s always got something looking like new growth 😝
I have a Zenzi plant. It will only grow in the fall and winter months. New shoots come every year at that time only. I have had this plant for 3 years . Spring comes around and it will slow down and sleep. I guess summer isn't particularly thrilling to it.😞
OH MY GOODNESS lol! All my ZZ's shoot out all kinds of new stems in Jan/Feb as well. I thought that to be the strangest thing. Clearly, a good Canadian winter plant hahaha Thanks Jeff for always posting great informative videos 😊! BTW- Are you still using any LECA?
Thanks so much for watching. I truly appreciate it. And yes they are great Canadian plants lol I do still have my calathea orbifolia in Leca.... It's just surviving. That's all lol
I am still waiting for my perfectly healthy ZZ to produce new growth. I know they are slow growing but two years is a long time to wait! It gets indirect light from a west facing window.
Sorry, but there really isn't anything to show. I put a couple of those small leaf rhizomes in the soil of my regular ZZ plant and there is just the tiniest little growth
I've had one ZZ plant for years. I thought that it was dying. I re-potted in a terra cotta pot and it seems to be doing better. I bought another one and it's still in the original pot. I don't water them. I neglect them! I have heard that the ZZ plant is a plant of "steel". The watering I received with my first ZZ plant said to water it with a cup of water every two weeks.
ZZ plants don't like to be rootbound and whenever I purchase them they're rootbound, potted in 100% cocoa coir, and need repotted. When I repot them, should I remove as much cocoa coir as I can, or place it all in the larger pot with newer, better soil around it? I've heard it's not good to grow them in 100% cocoa coir, is this true? My many other ZZ plants are potted in a mixture of potting soil, bark, and perlite and do great.
Could they be soil mites at 10:52? I had tried to kill them but found out soil mites are pretty much unkillable. It is harder to treat than thrip which I had success with neem oil and the products you have shown here. But soil mites are not pests technically and they are so ugly!! I dont want to use hardcore pesticides though,
Great video! I'm actually having a lot of trouble with mine and couldn't figure out why. I'm pretty good with detecting and fixing things but this one is driving me crazy lol. I love it's leaves so much, but it is not happy with its growing conditions right now. This one is a tough one out of my 300+ plants 🪴 grr. Thanks for sharing an updated video on this. Hopefully I get some luck soon
Love your videos!!! Thank you for this one. Do ZZs go dormant? My ZZ hasn't grown or died, it's just been the same for several months now. Even the new growth just stayed bright green instead of getting darker. Looks healthy but just no growth. I do have it under a grow light.
I love the raven zz. I finally finally got new growth from mine. I had no idea what I was doing wrong, but at least it is finally showing some life. Lol. I recently snipped longer stems and put them back in the soil to make it bushier. I won't bother propagation in water. Great video as usual, Jeff. 👌🏽
I don't have much experience with neem oil, but definitely this is what people use to prevent pests. If you have access to it then definitely give it a try
These usually take awhile to push out growth and in my experience it comes in late winter lol Don't ask me why, but just keep caring for it the same and eventually you will get new growth. I should ask what type of light does it get? They do well in a bright location.
I killed a raven zz plant from costa farms just a couple months ago. I think my biggest problem was leaving it in the original soil. It just retained too much water.
I bought a rooted raven zz cutting and it took 18 months to start showing growth but I'm so excited to see it finally show a lime green stem. The colors are awesome. Was worth the wait.
I left my plant outside during the summer in a shady spot and that plant went bonkers! The bright green leaves with the black is so stunning.
Nice! That is so awesome to hear. I wanted to take some plants out this year but thrips were horrible
When I was little my grandma had just come out of running her own greenhouse. The way she dealt with pests of any type was to put the plants in trash bags and spray inside with raid and leave it over night. Outside of my using hydrogen peroxide, this is basically what I do, except since I've got big plants I put them all in the center of the room (away from pets!) spray the top of the soil and then kinda fog around them and cover with an old sheet for the night. Surprisingly, I haven't even made the fiddles mad doing this yet, so for me this is the most effective way and seems to work fairly long term between treatments! I use the house and garden raid. I wish I had done it sooner when I was being tortured by thousands of fungus gnats last spring.
She also would reuse soil and would put it in the oven on baking sheets to help kill off any yuckies, then add nutrients back with fertilizer. With the number of pants she had that made sense. I haven't done it but I don't have rooms of seedlings 🩷
Thanks for sharing your technique/routine for pest management!
My mom 92 has been baking soil for a long time an she says there’s no smell heating it up.
Thank you Jeff. I recently gifted a ZZ Zenzi to my daughter, I shard your video with her so she could learn how to take care of her plant. I find that you give very through information on the plants you feature and I greatly appreciate that ! Thanks again! ❄️💚🙃
Thanks Judy!
I planted some epi pinnatum with my Raven zz so I can tell when the soil is dry easily (and to hasten the drying process as well. When the pinnatum leaves in the pot start drooping, I wait 1 more week then I fully bottom water the pot. It shot out 5 new stems this month after pruning 2 stems.
It got some root rot/dessication last January and the stems became super wrinkled and indented, that's when I planted the pinnatum in the pot, and started bottom watering to also prevent root dessication/uneven watering. No issues since then and stems are plump and firm again. :)
Nice work on fixing the issues!
I moved my ravens easy about four months ago to a better light location. It’s growing nicely now. Great video as always Jeff!
Nice work!!!
Thank you for this! I recently purchased a Raven ZZ and have been curious when to tell its time to water. Always so thorough and full of useful information!
Keep up the amazing work!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Jeff for the info! I've watched a few of your VLOGs , finally subscribed. (Just paused and checked the stems like you described. With PON I can't tell if it's moist, so I've been watering once every 25-30 days with a post-it note reminding me, stems are not showing dry) I really enjoy my Raven, Chameleon, and a Variegated leaf props (that finally started popping up) (All in PON). I started my Chameleon and Raven leaf props MONTHS ago in moss. Seeing the small rhyzomes but afraid of taking the next step.
My ZZ is the same, full of new growth now, as we are getting a foot of snow. It's never given me new growth in Spring/Summer. Great video🤩😍
It's just a weird growth pattern for these guys. Thanks for watching Kim
If you have a fish tank I recommend putting ZZ cuttings in there, I did that and they rooted pretty fast for a ZZ plant
Not surprised, because I did a fish tank water experiment once with pothos and they did awesome
Put your cuttings in moist potting soil. Covering them will give them humidity. Give them warmth from the bottom and a grow light. Feed them nutrients after they develop roots or a rhizome. Your cuttings will thrive under those conditions.
Kudos! I look forward to viewing your informative, planty videos!
Thanks so much Cynthia
was looking for advice about my sad, dying zz raven and 6 min in you solved my problem!! My plant has been sitting in direct sunlight for the past week or so because i’m in the process of moving out & forgot about it. It rapidly declined in health this month because of that, and i never made the connection about over-saturating it with sunlight until this video. I’m glad i found this video, thank you!!!! 💚💚🌿🌿
Always so thorough. Thank you! ZZ props ARE so slow! Can't wait to get a Chameleon ZZ.
I'm still hunting for that one too
Found it at Wallmart 2 days ago!! To me leaves look like Alligator scales 😀💚
@@sherryporsch9349 in canada? !
Winter growth for ZZ has always been my experience too. I think it's in their DNA that they are living on the other side of the world! I love ZZs and have quite a few. I have tried propagating and agree with you. Too long, lost interest! If you really want to see some growth, put it outside in the summer in a semi-shaded or filtered sun location. They love the heat of summer. Just be prepared they will turn into monsters! Unlike indoors, I water them ever singly day when they are outside. Indoors I do the same as you, water thoroughly then no water for about a month.
Hey Krya. I know I should take my plants outside in the summer, but I'm too worried about bringing in more pests haha
@@EverythingPlants Everyone says that. It's really interesting. Outside the pests seem to mostly keep themselves in check. But I get it!
I have a Raven ZZ which, for over two years, had just been sitting there, no signs of growth. About two months ago she finally has four new shoots! They’re quite lovely.
I have a “regular” ZZ which I’ve been struggling to get to thrive; I think I’ve been underwatering her for of overwatering. I’ll have to pay more attention.
As always, you presentation is thorough and clear. Thank you!
They are pretty slow growing plants and they will spit out now growth when you least expect it
I bought my Raven ZZ when the Covid vaccine first came out and it’s been sitting around all this time not doing anything! I was happy to see three new shoots recently…one of them is just starting to leaf out that beautiful bright green. Love the contrast 💚☘️
Thank you for sharing beautiful and amazing plants lovely collection beautiful
So nice of you
I have both of my zz's in PON and they are loving life with tons of new growth in the past month.
The PON is continuously moist and the zz's love it ❤️
I have yet try this.....you have peaked my interest. Thanks cannuck
what is PON?
WTF isa PON?
MY plant is in Lechuza PON... semi hydroponic substrate.
I keep a reservoir of water at the bottom of my pot.
@@cannuck3577 OIC tks
All my plants arbthriving except my ZZ Raven. It got too dry and got dry rot and lost a few stems. So this summer I water it weekly and it’s finally growing. I keep it in my sunroom 6 feet away from a south facing window and it’s in a very well draining cacti soil mix amended with extra perlite
Nice work!!!
Be happy with smaller size ZZ plants when they get bigger they tend to get heavy stems often tipping to the sides of the pot. I have purchased retaining circular stakes that works well.
I love seeing large pot of ZZ.....you know it's an older plant haha
Ravens can definitely test your patience!
I've had mine for 4 years now; it had 6 stalks when I bought it, lost 3 over the first year, did nothing over year 2 and grew one new stalk year 3....
Now, spring of year 4, it has 2 new stalks growing! I was thrilled at that until I realised that I probably would have to repot it this summer...
Ravens really don't like to be disturbed. 😮
Now I'm thinking that maybe I'll wait a year, or two, before I repot it. 😂
Ya....set it and forget it haha
Hi Jeff, I love raven ZZ plants. Great video . I did have 2 but somehow I didn't take care of them . Thinking of buying another plant. Yours look great. Have a nice day.😊
It took over 2 years for me to get first stem growing from leaves propagation. It's extremely long time 😅
Yes they are very slow growers!
Hi Jeff. I want to get a Raven ZZ. I have a regular one and love it. Thanks for the tips. 💚🌱💚
Thanks Karen. They are so lovely and I'm hoping to get the chameleon one
I’m so jealous. My Raven ZZ has done NOTHING. I’ve had it over a year now, and I don’t think it’s grown a leaf! On the flip side, it hasn’t lost a leaf either… just sat there. I’ve increased light, decreased watering, I guess my only other attempt is to repot it and see if that’ll spur some growth.
I've heard that with ZZ you kinda need to make them think they are in danger of dying to get any activity. Once I heard this I started to just water my regular zz when the moisture meter was around 2. Then a thorough water and then ignore again. I've got two new shoots finally. Mine had a lot of die back initially and I lost all the original leaves so I'm pretty sure I was loving it to death 😬 despite the lack of growth on top it's becoming difficult to find a spot I can wiggle the moisture meter in which tells me that the rhizomes are growing under the soil. I don't have a raven yet, I have only seen them online and they're like 50 dollars plus shipping so I am waiting to see one in store. Recently I found a philodendron pink princess at the grocery store so I'm sure the ZZ Raven is on its way! 🩷
@@MarisaAndChew I’m definitely in “ignore” mode now… hoping it either grows or dies. Interesting how different availability is by country. I got my raven over a year ago in a big-box store with a nice 6” ceramic cover pot for US$20
@@krisfarnsworth620 in in Canada but I live in a small town, we don't even have a Walmart Supercenter, just a basic one, and they rarely bring in houseplants. The home type stores also don't bring in house plants often, just bedding plants. So I either have to order online, or risk boutique prices 😱 or wait for the nursery to open in the spring and see what they have for inside plants, they close through winter. I could drive 3 hours one way to the city and have a lot of options and big box stores but inventory is not guaranteed and with gas prices the way they are, and then needing to eat etc it would prob be cheaper to not spend a whole day looking for a plant in the city 🤣
It will definitely grow in time but I think that's all it needs right now is just time lol
U can feed it with Juice of rincing of rice and Juice of banana's skin
Mine is giant and healthy and I kind of ignore it 😅😂. I mixed it with a regular ZZ so it looks like it’s always got something looking like new growth 😝
That is awesome Peter! I really enjoy combining plants....I have a mixed hoya pot video coming soon
My zz pushed out new shoots late January after the days began to lengthen. I really enjoy your videos.
Thanks so much Barb! How many new shoots did you get?
I got 2. I was really pleased because I just bought it last summer.
I have a Zenzi plant. It will only grow in the fall and winter months. New shoots come every year at that time only. I have had this plant for 3 years . Spring comes around and it will slow down and sleep. I guess summer isn't particularly thrilling to it.😞
OH MY GOODNESS lol! All my ZZ's shoot out all kinds of new stems in Jan/Feb as well. I thought that to be the strangest thing. Clearly, a good Canadian winter plant hahaha
Thanks Jeff for always posting great informative videos 😊!
BTW- Are you still using any LECA?
Thanks so much for watching. I truly appreciate it. And yes they are great Canadian plants lol
I do still have my calathea orbifolia in Leca.... It's just surviving. That's all lol
I did some props on my raven a few days ago. I'm in for a long wait. 😆
Buckle up! It is pretty satisfying propagating these guys. Good luck Jerod
I am still waiting for my perfectly healthy ZZ to produce new growth. I know they are slow growing but two years is a long time to wait! It gets indirect light from a west facing window.
Wow! That is a long time....have you given it any fertilizer? Even a half strength of fertilizer when you water might spark it up
wish you showed your ZZ propagation updated
Sorry, but there really isn't anything to show. I put a couple of those small leaf rhizomes in the soil of my regular ZZ plant and there is just the tiniest little growth
I've had one ZZ plant for years. I thought that it was dying. I re-potted in a terra cotta pot and it seems to be doing better. I bought another one and it's still in the original pot. I don't water them. I neglect them! I have heard that the ZZ plant is a plant of "steel". The watering I received with my first ZZ plant said to water it with a cup of water every two weeks.
They can go long periods without water especially if they are in low light
Great video! I love my zz plants!
They are such great plants
Hi thank you for sharing video I bought one from Walmart $25
Sweet! Enjoy your new plant!
@@EverythingPlants thank you again I been looking for one for long time
I have questions for you
I had my regular zz pants i new why two small
ZZ plants don't like to be rootbound and whenever I purchase them they're rootbound, potted in 100% cocoa coir, and need repotted. When I repot them, should I remove as much cocoa coir as I can, or place it all in the larger pot with newer, better soil around it? I've heard it's not good to grow them in 100% cocoa coir, is this true? My many other ZZ plants are potted in a mixture of potting soil, bark, and perlite and do great.
Could they be soil mites at 10:52? I had tried to kill them but found out soil mites are pretty much unkillable. It is harder to treat than thrip which I had success with neem oil and the products you have shown here. But soil mites are not pests technically and they are so ugly!! I dont want to use hardcore pesticides though,
I'm not sure. There was no physical damage on the plant that I could see...
Great video! I'm actually having a lot of trouble with mine and couldn't figure out why. I'm pretty good with detecting and fixing things but this one is driving me crazy lol. I love it's leaves so much, but it is not happy with its growing conditions right now. This one is a tough one out of my 300+ plants 🪴 grr. Thanks for sharing an updated video on this. Hopefully I get some luck soon
Is your care different from anything in this video???
Love your videos!!! Thank you for this one. Do ZZs go dormant? My ZZ hasn't grown or died, it's just been the same for several months now. Even the new growth just stayed bright green instead of getting darker. Looks healthy but just no growth. I do have it under a grow light.
I love the raven zz. I finally finally got new growth from mine. I had no idea what I was doing wrong, but at least it is finally showing some life. Lol. I recently snipped longer stems and put them back in the soil to make it bushier. I won't bother propagation in water. Great video as usual, Jeff. 👌🏽
Let me know how your props do!
@EverythingPlants I will. I tried it before. Just snip and put in the same pot, but it was the green one. This raven is a little extra
Will Neem oil work just as well as those insecticides?
I don't have much experience with neem oil, but definitely this is what people use to prevent pests. If you have access to it then definitely give it a try
Yes I make a solution with it for the brown spot I have and it appears to help stop the brown spot from traveling. Thankfully I don’t have pest !
hay bud i us pro mix potting soil and i mix it with perlite and a little bit of worm casting to is that ok
Ya...I think it should be fine as long as you have a decent amount of perlite in there and just be sure it dries out before watering again
Mine stopped growing. I think my pot is too big. Should I repot into a smaller one?
These are pretty slow growing plants. I wouldn't change a thing....just keep providing the same care and give it time
When they say they can grow in low light...don't do it. A bit more light and it will do better.
Sir, where should place this plant ?my plant has no new growth,its been 3 months when i purchase it online.
These usually take awhile to push out growth and in my experience it comes in late winter lol Don't ask me why, but just keep caring for it the same and eventually you will get new growth. I should ask what type of light does it get? They do well in a bright location.
Pyrethrins excite the nervous system of insects that touch or eat it. This quickly leads to paralysis and ultimately their death.
Thanks!
Thanks,, I learned new stuff...
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for the helpful info Jeff!
You are welcome!
Found the new ZZ video. I hate myself haha. I saw some raven ZZ's at Walmart and i never got it and now I regret it 😅😂
There will be more!
I killed a raven zz plant from costa farms just a couple months ago. I think my biggest problem was leaving it in the original soil. It just retained too much water.
Yes...I find that the original soil stay wet for too long
What!! no terracotta?
I know! I actually think I forgot to mention this 😪
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Thanks Virginia
@@EverythingPlants your welcome 🤗💚🌿💚
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I will never propagate these again either. Way too slow for me!
Yup lol just buy another plant lol
I hope you do automatic translation of the video in Arabic
I'm not sure how to do that???
Am I the only person on Earth who ISN'T a zz fan? Just don't do it for me 🤔
I felt the same way about snake plants, but I love them now lol
I like how the look prehistoric.
You seem to talk too fast. Think of your audience.
I don't think I've ever had this comment from any other viewers before, but I will try and remember. Thanks for watching
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