aMAXproduction I agree with both of you. He does parts he has in AVGN well, but when he tried to do shit like that Elmo video, it's so forced, it's awful. He needs to be a little more witty with his jokes, not just make mundane 12 year old esque jokes.
Well, he actually wrote some of the most memorable, quoted lines in some of the AVGN episodes. He's not just filming and editing, he has helped James out with writing as well in the past. But when he's put on the spot, yes, he doesn't seem to be as comedically intuitive, but that makes sense.
"I'm sure he's a human being. I'm sure somewhere down there, somewhere if you reach deep into Mike Matei, you will find a smidgen of humanity. But for now, we can only see the beast." JonTron, 2012
Did he say this during one of his monologues with his bird mascot thing? Y'know, that thing he did for 20 minutes every video before he started playing a game.
tfw when you realize that their entire point is that when Mike says something that somebody else would say, it isn't funny because of how he says it and who he is. But when anybody else says it, like them or AVGN, it's ok.
@@Top10WizardReviews Any time James has ever attempted to sound like Mike he has sounded boring and cringey by comparison. So that makes no sense at all. AVGN videos have always sounded like a script being read and lacking in actual emotion. Mike's streams are real and unfiltered completely. There's no contest man. James was always the lesser gamer.
James is chill, and smooth, and endearing, and has that deep voice with the vague Jersey accent. Mike sounds like fucking Mandark from Dexter's Lab crossed with a cat in heat. He's also a lot more vulgar and sexually immature with his humor, which just makes things awkward most of the time. I'll never forget that horrendous Elmo in Grouchland review where out of nowhere he's like "WHAT IF ONE OF THE MUPPETS SAW GORDON EATING OUT HIS WIFE" and then he flashes up this detailed drawing of Gordon's tongue on his wife's nether regions, and I was just like "WOAH! DUDE! WHAT THE FUCK? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?"
Yeah, Mike seems like the friend you would never invite over while your girlfriend was around, cause you just know he'd hit on her. James on the other hand seems like the friend you'd trust to go pick up your girlfriend from a club at 3am if she was drunk.
Mike has improved over the years in front of the camera but I think he is best at being himself on James and Mike even though he can be a bit loud and obnoxious on Mondays or his livestreams.
He's a no-talent neckbeard who has a sense of humor a twelve year old would find too immature to laugh at, and his only claim to fame is that he's been riding James' coat tails for the past decade and a half. He's got no business being in front of the camera.
@@bojackson3073 LMAO! Real? Passionate? Bruh. James has thoroughly proved over the last few years that he's a total sellout and a joke of a gamer compared to Mike. Mike literally does game streams as a full time job now. It doesn't get much more real or passionate than that. James is phoning it in almost every video now haha.
Wait till you realize that James' words are written largely by Mike. Mike is the real Angry Video Game Nerd. James is an actor, socially awkward and nothing like that. You can see it plain as day in Mike's personality. The difference as some people have stated in the comments is delivery. Mike has the words, not the delivery. James has the delivery and not the words. AVGN without Mike is, and has been, a faux AVGN and you can also see that in it's production, script, everything. Mike plays himself up on screen, like a pro wrestler would. You take part of yourself and turn it up to an 11. He can be fairly normal, but when character strikes, he delivers what many consider a bunch of cringe bs.
'Alt-righter'??? Whoever it is that you're imitating, whoevers ideas it is that you're regurgitating...LEAVE THEM!!! Remove them from your company. I promise you, you'll realise that they're not a good person some day. Unfortunately you might not learn it until they've fuck over YOU...but it's true!
I don't hate him, but he's better off doing the drawings for the intro cards, playing bit roles in AVGN episodes, and being in those non AVGN vids with James, and not solo reviews. We all have strengths and weaknesses. AVGN may draw like Mike reviews.
Dan Abnormal I actually kinda like the inspector gadget video. It's one of those extremely early videos that shows us how far RUclips content creators have come. Has it aged well? Probably not, but I kinda like it that way.
Yeah, that's true. But he doesn't have the same kind of charm that James has in his reviews, which of course comes from how he delivers the AVGN character. That's one of the reasons people give him shit for.
Not aymore. NOW AVGN is CRINGE becuz James is forcing the anger where as Mike is literally red in the face with anger in his play throughs.....So they have switched
Yeah James is basically a fraud at this point as a gamer compared to Mike. So it's pretty funny looking at these thousands of losers in the comments who pretended they knew anything years ago 🤣
This. People thought Mike was bad... Maybe he is the reason Bootsie and Kyle left, we may never know for sure. But I'd still watch a Mike livestream over a new avgn video. If Mike ever went "too far" with the censorship and dick pix, at least he's an entertainer. Those screenwave guys put me to sleep. Besides. Isn't Justin friends with Bob McGrann?
@@hideofreakingkojima5457 and yet Mike has accomplished about 1000 more things during his streams. James holding on to that one story is more of an interesting tale to tell than something on video and worthy of praise unlike what Mike does monthly.
What makes it confusing is that Mike probably edited most of the videos he appeared in back then, so he should have been able to clearly see how bad he was at copying James. He did eventually start to be himself more, though.
His film reviews aren't too bad, from what I've experienced. I'll admit I've only watched his review of Python, so maybe they're a little less over-the-top than his other videos, but it wasn't god awful. Although saying that, the whole "MineCraft with Gadget" thing was pretty bad.
He made an overly racist comic, he took a pic of his dick and posted it on the official Cinemassacre twitter account, he personally censored the shit out of the official Cinemassacre reddit page whenever people dared say the smallest critique of him which led to the creation of r/cinemassacretruth where all his shit was exposed, he was allegedly the reason why Bootsy left the channel over unfair payment, he cheated on his gf with a "fan" like a week after he introduced her in the channel, etc. Tldr, yes
@@pats3212 And yet, everything you mentioned is completely subjective, could be taken out of context, or is incredibly moral high groundy that it muddies the waters of even caring. Again. It makes no difference. I'm just pointing out that Jontron historically has been a real shithead before as well, and yet I doubt you would cry one word about him lol.
No, Look. I love James and Mike as much as the next person. But I agree with Arin, Mike is just.....that certain kind of akward. Where he TRIES to like James and his comedy and swearing is forced and you cringe.
@@THEmeepmopmoop It's not lmao, it's a pretty good documentation of the channel's lesser known shit, it was created solely bc of Mike's own personal censorship on the official Cinemassacre subreddit
Because this conversation took place years before that, and also Jon and Arin both still love and respect the shit out of James, which was probably 99% of the reason why he even went there
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I just think Mike tries too hard with the comedy, He's better when he's being informative and talking about facts.
Yeah he's really not all that bad, I mean he plays his roles in AVGN videos amazingly well (The Cowardly Lion, the Joker...)
aMAXproduction I agree with both of you. He does parts he has in AVGN well, but when he tried to do shit like that Elmo video, it's so forced, it's awful. He needs to be a little more witty with his jokes, not just make mundane 12 year old esque jokes.
He IS funny but it's kinda like you have a person who writes the jokes an another person who presents them. He's not a great preformer
Well, he actually wrote some of the most memorable, quoted lines in some of the AVGN episodes. He's not just filming and editing, he has helped James out with writing as well in the past. But when he's put on the spot, yes, he doesn't seem to be as comedically intuitive, but that makes sense.
Well hello there...
"I'm sure he's a human being. I'm sure somewhere down there, somewhere if you reach deep into Mike Matei, you will find a smidgen of humanity. But for now, we can only see the beast."
JonTron, 2012
Did he say this during one of his monologues with his bird mascot thing? Y'know, that thing he did for 20 minutes every video before he started playing a game.
tfw game grumps criticize mike for the same shit they do in their videos
tfw when you realize that their entire point is that when Mike says something that somebody else would say, it isn't funny because of how he says it and who he is. But when anybody else says it, like them or AVGN, it's ok.
Except Mike's no fun.
cowed13 except mike has no humour
@@Top10WizardReviews Any time James has ever attempted to sound like Mike he has sounded boring and cringey by comparison.
So that makes no sense at all. AVGN videos have always sounded like a script being read and lacking in actual emotion.
Mike's streams are real and unfiltered completely.
There's no contest man. James was always the lesser gamer.
@@excessmaterial mike>James and its not even close
James is chill, and smooth, and endearing, and has that deep voice with the vague Jersey accent. Mike sounds like fucking Mandark from Dexter's Lab crossed with a cat in heat. He's also a lot more vulgar and sexually immature with his humor, which just makes things awkward most of the time.
I'll never forget that horrendous Elmo in Grouchland review where out of nowhere he's like "WHAT IF ONE OF THE MUPPETS SAW GORDON EATING OUT HIS WIFE" and then he flashes up this detailed drawing of Gordon's tongue on his wife's nether regions, and I was just like "WOAH! DUDE! WHAT THE FUCK? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?"
Yea it was pretty painful to watch that.
Yeah, Mike seems like the friend you would never invite over while your girlfriend was around, cause you just know he'd hit on her. James on the other hand seems like the friend you'd trust to go pick up your girlfriend from a club at 3am if she was drunk.
I wouldn't say James has a deep voice but he does seem pretty chilled for this world!
That actually sounds so disgusting that it's funny ngl.
That review is one of the best videos on the internet
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lol i think about this every time i see the videos where jon hangs out with james and mike
Wow. This aged like ass.
Their Mike impression sounds like Chris Bores.
Eh. He's still funnier than the gaming grumps
Well that's true
Game Chumps, amirite?
@@jezzmaninjapan lame grumps
Minecraft With Gadget and Elmo In Groucheland are unironically my favorite Cinemassacre videos. They never cease to make me laugh.
Im not wearing cardigan.
😂😂😂
Yeah they're fooking Highlariousss!
Mike has improved over the years in front of the camera but I think he is best at being himself on James and Mike even though he can be a bit loud and obnoxious on Mondays or his livestreams.
Mike is naturally a loud and obnoxious person, I don't have much of a problem with him but he's definitely not as real or passionate as James
No he hasn't LOL, he's awful and does not belong anywhere near the front of a camera. There's something seriously wrong with him.
He's a no-talent neckbeard who has a sense of humor a twelve year old would find too immature to laugh at, and his only claim to fame is that he's been riding James' coat tails for the past decade and a half. He's got no business being in front of the camera.
@@bojackson3073 LMAO!
Real? Passionate?
Bruh. James has thoroughly proved over the last few years that he's a total sellout and a joke of a gamer compared to Mike.
Mike literally does game streams as a full time job now. It doesn't get much more real or passionate than that. James is phoning it in almost every video now haha.
@@Jayce_Alexander AVGN wouldn't have even happened if not for Mike. James actually has been riding Mike's coattails technically.
"Castle, my asshole."
Mike Matei is the man
Wait till you realize that James' words are written largely by Mike. Mike is the real Angry Video Game Nerd. James is an actor, socially awkward and nothing like that. You can see it plain as day in Mike's personality. The difference as some people have stated in the comments is delivery. Mike has the words, not the delivery. James has the delivery and not the words. AVGN without Mike is, and has been, a faux AVGN and you can also see that in it's production, script, everything. Mike plays himself up on screen, like a pro wrestler would. You take part of yourself and turn it up to an 11. He can be fairly normal, but when character strikes, he delivers what many consider a bunch of cringe bs.
Category: Education
Better title: An alt-righter and a racist discuss a different racist.
'Alt-righter'???
Whoever it is that you're imitating, whoevers ideas it is that you're regurgitating...LEAVE THEM!!!
Remove them from your company. I promise you, you'll realise that they're not a good person some day. Unfortunately you might not learn it until they've fuck over YOU...but it's true!
Not as bad as far-left raclsts, but still bad.
I can hear the apparent Mega Man 7 in the background
Perfect example of how fame can go into the wrong hands.
Who Egoraptor?
Wow, 10 years and this still make people mad
megaman 7 brought me here
I like mike especially when he's doing his serious reviews like the dark souls one.
Talking behinds peoples backs is coward
BIG time!!!
I lost SO much respect for Jontron just then it's ridiculous. And as for Arin...Well I never respected him to begin with!
I like Mike..y'all need to piss off and stop being so uptight and judgemental Mike is an entertainer good or bad it's always entertaining
John Rosie he’s also a dick
@@megasystem8473 At least he ain't a pussy like you!
I just wish james would've cut ties with mike before bootsy left
He didn't "cut ties". Mike still helps with videos, just in case his name in the end credits didn't clue you in.
Isn't he the Mike Matei who made the racist comics?
Owen Fitzgerald not racist it's called social satire
@@johnrosie9769 El loco bandito was anything but social satire lmao
Yeah when i first saw them i was stuck in bed for two weeks. I was appalled. I don't know how i somehow found the strength to carry on
Love how people vote negatively when it's an unpopular opinion lol... a reasonable one too.
Egoraptor knows James personally....he even did a little video with him.. so no.
No, but that doesn't mean I want to see Mike by himself.
cringe
Mike Matei is great
it is the Chihuahua eyes
One difference between GameGrumps + Mike: Mike doesn't have a Cucking/Persecution fetish that we know of
I'm out of the loop. Was EgoRaptor's wife sleeping around behind his back?
I dunno, James's serious, out of character videos are still more interesting in my opinion.
With Matei too.
I don't hate him, but he's better off doing the drawings for the intro cards, playing bit roles in AVGN episodes, and being in those non AVGN vids with James, and not solo reviews. We all have strengths and weaknesses. AVGN may draw like Mike reviews.
Lol this aged well
I don't hate Mike he's just a boring reviewer.
Why does everyone hate on Mike Matei? I would rather the channel still update with new content while James works on the movie.
Mike Matei looks like John Krazinski's half-brother
They should of cited the inspector gadget video.
Dan Abnormal I actually kinda like the inspector gadget video. It's one of those extremely early videos that shows us how far RUclips content creators have come. Has it aged well? Probably not, but I kinda like it that way.
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Oh you talking about GAME GRUMPS game grumps
All kyles and justin's look up to him
As do all Kyle Justins!
Holy shit this comment section
Yeah, that's true. But he doesn't have the same kind of charm that James has in his reviews, which of course comes from how he delivers the AVGN character. That's one of the reasons people give him shit for.
he does serious game reviews. He's not really someone to go to if ou're lookng for a laugh. More to be educated about old games..
Yeah, your right.
RIP Mike
Not aymore. NOW AVGN is CRINGE becuz James is forcing the anger where as Mike is literally red in the face with anger in his play throughs.....So they have switched
Yeah James is basically a fraud at this point as a gamer compared to Mike.
So it's pretty funny looking at these thousands of losers in the comments who pretended they knew anything years ago 🤣
This. People thought Mike was bad... Maybe he is the reason Bootsie and Kyle left, we may never know for sure. But I'd still watch a Mike livestream over a new avgn video. If Mike ever went "too far" with the censorship and dick pix, at least he's an entertainer. Those screenwave guys put me to sleep. Besides. Isn't Justin friends with Bob McGrann?
@@2mrwario I miss Boostey he brought a lot to the channel with the music and just general commentary
Grame Grumps
Where's the source?
LMAO the irony that now everyone knows Mike is the real gamer and James is basically the fraud and sellout of a gamer.
Even though he beat the glitched "inivisble" Super C in a convention without the konami code and had his thumb bleeding
@@hideofreakingkojima5457 and yet Mike has accomplished about 1000 more things during his streams.
James holding on to that one story is more of an interesting tale to tell than something on video and worthy of praise unlike what Mike does monthly.
Maybe it's just me but James seems cool and laid back and there is something off with mike.
What makes it confusing is that Mike probably edited most of the videos he appeared in back then, so he should have been able to clearly see how bad he was at copying James. He did eventually start to be himself more, though.
His film reviews aren't too bad, from what I've experienced. I'll admit I've only watched his review of Python, so maybe they're a little less over-the-top than his other videos, but it wasn't god awful.
Although saying that, the whole "MineCraft with Gadget" thing was pretty bad.
the truth.
either that or Mike really is a fairly boring person to listen to
I like Mike. :c
Is he really that bad of a guy?
No
He made an overly racist comic, he took a pic of his dick and posted it on the official Cinemassacre twitter account, he personally censored the shit out of the official Cinemassacre reddit page whenever people dared say the smallest critique of him which led to the creation of r/cinemassacretruth where all his shit was exposed, he was allegedly the reason why Bootsy left the channel over unfair payment, he cheated on his gf with a "fan" like a week after he introduced her in the channel, etc.
Tldr, yes
@@pats3212 Literally none of that, whether it is 100% accurate or exaggerated to shit, makes me enjoy his streams any less.
@@excessmaterial He asked if he was a bad person, not if he was an entertaining streamer
@@pats3212 And yet, everything you mentioned is completely subjective, could be taken out of context, or is incredibly moral high groundy that it muddies the waters of even caring.
Again. It makes no difference.
I'm just pointing out that Jontron historically has been a real shithead before as well, and yet I doubt you would cry one word about him lol.
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get over what? Do you hate when people give other views? What does doing a movie have to do with Mike putting out shit?
Educated about old games? Most of his video I'd dub him the International Hub of Misinformation then :/
No, Look. I love James and Mike as much as the next person. But I agree with Arin, Mike is just.....that certain kind of akward. Where he TRIES to like James and his comedy and swearing is forced and you cringe.
I challenge you to watch one Matei review. I say "challenge" because it is truly a struggle to watch. It's just painful and embarrassing.
Nobody agreed. Still living on thumbs? Oh wait...
No it's not. Hes just not funny it doesn't make it painful to watch
google r/TheCinemassacreTruth
Dude, are you serious? That subreddit’s fucking pathetic. It’s basically a parody of itself.
Ghost Rider found the fanboy in denial
@@THEmeepmopmoop It's not lmao, it's a pretty good documentation of the channel's lesser known shit, it was created solely bc of Mike's own personal censorship on the official Cinemassacre subreddit
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Ironically, Mike still has more class in one finger than either Arin or Jon have in their entire bodies.
Yeah, posting his nudes on the cinemassacre subreddit and twitter, real classy.
Why is Jon shitting on Mike if he was going to be in 2 episodes of James and Mike Mondays later? Hypocritical much?
because he's a massive, unfunny tool
Because this conversation took place years before that, and also Jon and Arin both still love and respect the shit out of James, which was probably 99% of the reason why he even went there
He sadly isn't as entertaining.
mike matei is the GOAT
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