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Hi man! ROMAN is MAN produced in Romania, with a license bought in the 70s, if I'm not mistaken. There was also a division called DAC. Greetings from Romania!
You are fully right. no Mistake :) Thumbs up!
Not Roman is licenc off Saviem-Renault. Saviem-Renault and and M.A.N is 1967to 1980 product same trucks . Raba is licenc of M.A.N
@@alensmiljanic3844 You are false ... 1969 they get a MAN Licence with them prenamend Company Întreprinderea de Autocamioane Brașov!
Heya - these were great! 💛
A few bits of info:
The cabover at 5:33 was indeed a Kenworth, more specifically a Kenworth K100. 🙂
The Mack at 10:00 was a Mack F-Series.
The blue truck at 10:32 is a Seddon Atkinson, I believe it is an Atkinson Borderer.
The greyscale picture 10:40 shows a GMC Astro, a rebadge of which was also sold as the Chevrolet Titan.
The ochre truck at 11:46 appears to be a Foden Fleetmaster.
In case you're interested in more old British lorry/bus brands besides ERF Trucks, British Leyland, Foden and Seddon Atkinson, some other notable examples include Sentinel Waggon Works (who've produced many steam-powered trucks up until the 1930s), Scammell Lorries, Bedford Vehicles, Austin (mostly famous for their cars), Associated Equipment Company (AEC), Bristol Commercial Vehicles (or just Bristol, like the town) and Thornycroft. If you're interested in even more, I would suggest searching on Wikipedia for "Category:Truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom" (for the ones that are still around (there aren't that many), but the rest of the manufacturers are listed when searching for "Category:Defunct truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom". 🙂
Hope this helps! ⭐
The Lowe Transport ones were an ERF and an Atkinson. the Atkins International one was a Foden. The Roman Diesel was Man trucks built under licence in Romania. American trucks were never popular in Europe but there were small numbers back in the 1970s and 1980s, and even fewer in the 1990s after that they virtually disappeared. In the UK we had Mack, White and Kenworth mainly with the odd International. There were also some American rigid trucks in areas near the airports here, mainly US Fords, GMCs and Internationals belonging to the American and Canadian airlines like Pan-Am, TWA, Air Canada, etc. Also the American forces have always had their US trucks here, I would always see them on the motorways back in the 1980s and 90s. There was a company based close to me in East London in the 70s and they had a GMC bonneted artic, it was a real head turner, and the only GMC artic I ever saw on UK plates.
I started Trucking in 86.
It was HELLA hard & very Dirty. Some (most) of the trucks you practically had to wear ear defenders to drive them so there was no point in putting a radio in them.
Viz the scene.....
Monday morning at Silly O'clock you arrive in the Yard. Put your night out gear & maps etc into the cab and then start to rope the load in the dark.
As you throw the rope over you hear "Spludge" as it lands in the thick mud the other side of the trailer.
Now you do a Dolly knot and the mud runs all down your arms & body.
Do this multiple times until the load is properly secured.
Start your journey.
When it gets light and you can see yourself you look like you've just been dragged over the Somme Battlefield.
Now understand you WON'T be coming home all week.
But the Truckers Camaraderie was brilliant and you really did enjoy the job. ESPECIALLY locating the correct "Home Farm" when every farm in Norfolk is called "Home Farm" !!
We still run alot of this in Africa
113 turbo❤😊 my favorite
Those older trucks kicked ass, dude, I remember watching these older trucks leaving the docks at Liverpool, brings back fond memories, once again, great video, dude, keep up the great videos, high to all the family,chau for now
The K100 Aerodyne was used by a few hauliers in the UK..Kenworth had a dealership at Chipping Sodbury Gloustershire...Kenworth also had a dealership in Switzerland ...Friderici Transport who ran a big fleet of KWs to the Middle East aswell as Europe....
I am a Dutch trucker and at the company i work for they have a collection of their old trucks restored
Hi. When I first started work as an apprentice telephone engineer in 1967 (yes a long time ago!) we had a fleet of Carrier trucks. It had a cab with two front seats, driver and foreman, and in the rear crew compartment seating for two with a fold down seat for the apprentice, me. The rear was built especially for working with poles and cables. The front end of the van had an upper opening flap to allow up 60 60ft poles. The rear had a drop down tailgate with a removable load-bar for resting the long poles on and they would poke out of the opening flap. Inside the van had a rack of four aluminium ladders, a shelf of wooden pods that the insulators that held wires to pole arms. Plenty of room for pole erection gear, an aluminium par of sheerlegs for pole erecting, special digging tools, called a spoon and rabbeter, 10ft handles one, the spoon was a flat bottomed plate for scooping earth from a deep hole, the rabbeter was like a 19ft log trowel but stronger. Of course regular tools like picks, shovels, sledge hammer, felling axe. Specialist tools like ratchets and tonges, these gripped a copper wire and a key wound the rai=tchet to tension the copper wire. The other oddity was what was called Rods Continuous, a very long approx. 100 yard long flexible steel rod in a round cage, used for rodding, i.e. getting a cable through an underground duct. Every vehicle had what was called a Tundish, like a big Wok, always used by the gang to relieve themselves, meant for bailing water out of manholes. The vehicle had a hefty towing hitch to haul, compressors, pumps, cable trailers or the special trailers for erecting and carrying red phone boxes, our special trailer carried a Go-Cat tracked al terrain vehicle for access to mountain radio transmitters.
Sorry can't find a photo.
I worked in a shipping company/transport company for a while, my boss there was a former truck driver in like the 80s and 90s, and the stories he told... it sounded like it was practically lawless at times.
Like one dude who transported fish to Italy, got drunk in Italy and just picked up a prostitute and taught her how to drive so she could do the last bit to delivery. :P
And there were routes that went from all over Europe to Africa, which took a very long time, there's books written about it.
You didn't recognize the iconic austrian truck STEYR at 7:06😮
4:45 Definitely in the Alps, probably Italy, Switzerland, Austria or France.
Truck trailer with Italian lettering in the background.
4:50 I'd say it's Northern Italy. The mountains in the background look tall, so quite safe to assume it's the Alps. Also, the trailer in the background says viaggio, which is italian. (Still could be Austria or Switzerland as well)
9:50 apparently thia is the Le Perthus Pyramid and according to wikipedia it was meant as a "celebration of the role of the Pyrenean mountain passes, and especially of the Col du Perthus, in Catalan history."
Probably the best trucks of the 60s, 70s and perhaps 80s were the Spanish ones, Iveco, Pegaso and Ebro. Tough, reliable and simple.
In your list, it's surprising not to see any Renault truck
4:46 i think it is in south tyrol, italy, 9:34 must be La Jonquera, spanish border^^
7:00 looks like the Alps
Yes, it must be Brenner Pass or Brennero Pass, Austria to Italy, this looks like the parkinglot in front of (left side out of the picture) the old Post Station, and if you look behind the trucks in the canyon there was the old route of the Stage coach. I stood there 10 years ago on the way to italy, looks very familiar to me. I think it is......
Hi! Brenner pass or passo del Brennero is between Austria and Italy
Loads of old UK reg plates here, from the 1963-1983 "suffix" system and the 1983-2001 "prefix" system.
If you go on the article "Vehicle registration plates of the United Kingdom", go to the "Great Britain" section and scroll all the way down to "History" and then "Year identifiers", you should get a suffix table on the left and a prefix table on the right.
For example the DAF at 10:59 "EOJ 885V" is a suffix-V-reg from 1979-1980. And as someone else said, the Volvo at 12:38 "P824 AOY" is a prefix-P-reg from 1996-1997.
Yes, and also OJ shows it was registered in the West Midlands. And the OY one shows it was registered in London.
@@martinwebb1681 yep, the area identifiers 👍🏻
Hi Ian, that are allmost all England or Ierland trucks, most of them driving to the south or south east (balkan) and yes over the Alps. but do look good to them, they all drive RHD trucks as you can see on the wipers ;-) but some of them are LHD drivers, that tells that those truck spend the most of there time on the other side of the channel and not in England or so :D
The piramid at 9:43 looks like Le Perthus
8:30 I'm not 100% sure. But that car next to the Berliet looks like a Simca Matra Bagheera. (Or Matra Simca)
For American trucks in Europe, in the 70's, Dodge bought the Spanish manufacturer Barreiros, and introduced Dodge trucks under the Barreros brand.
Incidentally Barreiros made the Dodge Dart and 3700 for the Spanish market, including a Dodge Dart Diesel (mostly for taxis).
Back then Mack was a stand alone american company. Now they are partners with Iveco, that is why some people call them spaghetti Mack
Both statements are false.
The truck division RVI of Renault gradually took over more and more shares in Mack from 1979 onwards.
In 1990 Mack was completely taken over by RVI.
The Renault AE Magnum in the 1990s had mostly Mack inline six-cylinder and V8 engines.
Mack therefore belongs to RVI (Renault Véhicules Industriels), which was taken over by the Volvo Group in 2002.
5:10 looks like northern Italy
Volvo owns American Mack, DAF (Doorne Automobiel Fabriek) was founded in the Netherlands and is now more owned by American Paccar,
Man (Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg AG) is owned by Volkswagen AG
Funny you often use the adjective "unique" (same word in French), Unic was an old French truck brand belonging to IVECO.
at 8'20" a Berliet (Berliet T 100 largest truck in the world) which with Saviem became Renault VI (now AB Volvo, Trucks not Volvo cars).
The Mercedes that you said looked like a class 2 and was a 1317 I used to drive them
isn't mack related to volvo and renault . some renault trucks even have a mack engine
just looked it up . mack was aquired by renault but later they became part of volvo group
Sterling Trucks are NOT Ford . Ford sold the Truck division to Daimler . Sold as Sterling worlwide .
Ford sold the Truck division to IVECO...
9:45 Le Perthus Pyramid, France
france and spain border
I was guessing the Waterloo memorial, but that looks different.
looks fake that the busches dont grow upwords.
the waterloo memorial is a cone with a lion on top
Well it's definitely not Dumfries that's for sure 😅
Hi Mr Wroker, this is Grahame I'm a Brit living in The Netherlands. I used to drive long-haul from the UK into Europe back in the 1970/80 era, and it was the best time to drive trucks.
I drove a Mercedes 1626 and a 1628, a Scania 142M, a DAF 2800 & 3300, an MAN, and a Ford Transcontinental all over Western Europe. The trucks with a plate showing TIR on the front are transporting goods through many different countries in one trip. TIR is short for "Transports International Routiers" and the trailer was sealed by Customs at the point of loading. The driver was then given paperwork stating at which border crossing he must go through into each country. At each of these border crossings the seals were checked by that country's customs officials and the paperwork stamped to show that the seals were intact. At the point of unloading the seals were finally broken and the goods unloaded. Life on the road then was a bit hard compared to today. We had no automatic gearbox, no SatNav only road maps, no AirCo, no microwave ovens to cook in, no in-cab refrigerator, just a steering wheel, three foot pedals, a bunk bed, and a gear stick. But the camaraderie on the road was absolute, no matter what nationality you were.
TIR is now used for shipping outside of EU and Schengen area, but before the EU it was used like that
and no cruisecontrol either, im happy that im driving a truck with adaptive cruise control for regular freight but something like a DAF 3600 ATI Spacecab for freight between 2 short points would be cool too
As a German, seeing these trucks reminds me of childhood.Most of these models you would either see on the road here, or on TV (Especially on the show "Auf Achse", centered around the adventures of two truckers on routes to Africa, the Middle East etc. Definitely a childhood favourite of mine.)
The truck you couldn't make out was Foden a long since defunct British manufacturer. ERF was also a branch of the same family, it stood for Edwin Richard Foden. Finally the Truck with an 'A' in a circle on the grill was an Atkinson, another British truck manufacturer.
ERF was sold to MAN in 2000 and the last ERF truck was built in 2007. The brand doesn't exist any more.
@@monolith2063 I remember when there were ERF branded MAN F2000s in the early 2000s, before they dissappeared.
What was trucking like back then? When I was a little boy there was a German TV series called "Auf Achse" about 2 truckers having adventures through all of Europe and Africa. It is such a different world when you watch it now, now all borders in Europe are gone and we all use the same Euro money. Even countries that don't exist anymore. Days stuck at the Yugoslavian border, trying to exchange Deutschmark for Sloti or Dinar or whatever they had, trying to call your boss in Germany but the phones dont work etc.etc.etc. Seems so alien now. One of them drove one of those Mercedes, the other one I can't remember..
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There is another classic trucking TV-show called TIR. :)
Franz Mersdonk drove MB NG and Günther Willers got a Volvo F and MAN F8. 😉
And there were a season filmed in Chile too, not only Europe and Africa.
@@altblechasyl_cs2093 They drove about everything available in central Europe, also many Ivecos, occasionally a Scania or when abroad helping friends they might end in some local specialities like Sisu in Finland. As far as I know, the only brand in Europe none of them ever drove was DAF.
Don't forget the episodes in Thailand
Volvo AB owns - Renault trucks and Mack
Traton owns - Scania, MAN, Volkswagen trucks, Navistar
Paccar owns - Leyland trucks, Kenworth, Peterbilt, DAF (DAF cars was bought by Volvo back in the days.)
Daimler owns - Mercedes trucks, Freightliner, Western star, Fuso (Mitsubishi trucks), Detroit diesel (Detroit diesel is an Mercedes engine)
Exor owns - IVECO. They also work toghter with the Chinese SAIC and Naveco. Exor is also one of the larger if not the largest owner in Stellantis around 14%of the stocks. (IVECO was a merge from Fiat, Lancia, OM from Italy, Magirus Deutz from Germany and Unic from France.
Ford owns- Ford Otosan (based in Turkey) who owns Ford semi trucks They make their trucks in Turkey, China and Russia.
Tatra trucks is a private company based in the Czech Republic.
Sisu auto owns - Sisu trucks Built in Finland and they use Mercedes engines.
The Asian truck brands I do not have that good knowledge about.
Hino is a subsidiary of Toyota, Isuzu is a listed company and UD trucks are recently part of Isuzu.
Fuso as you mentioned is part of Daimler
Sisu used also rolls royse, Cummins and even Detroit diesels back In the day
So you like European Trucks...and you like rally...how about European DAF Rally trucks in the Paris-Dakar Rally, search for this video: This 6 turbo truck was too powerful for the dakar rally, and a whole new world of serious power will open up to you.
The hill (pyramid) is a park designed by the Architekt Ricardo Bofill from spain
The Ford at 8.08 minutes is a model called the Transcontinental. They were rare even when new. Had an advanced ( for the time) cab suspension system.
Some drivers loved it, many complained of sea-sickness.....
The Ford used a cab from a French truck manufacturer, which was also used in the late 80’s by Renault. We had them at my factory, they were great to drive in the yard (private property).
@@iaing9028 "The Ford used a cab from a French truck manufacturer,..." with the name Berliet, who first developed the modern semitrailer cab.
The Truck was the Berliet TR 300 V8.
@@ULTRA_2112
Thanks for that information, I knew the cab design was shared by Renault & the earlier Fords from the late 70’s.
It was only recently that I had heard of Berliet, when the cab 1st came out it was ahead of the competition.
The Daf 95 was from when Daf took over the running of Leyland trucks, (1987-ish) and were initially marketed in the UK as "Leyland-Daf". As it happens, Paccar, the parent company of Daf, who control the likes of Kenworth and Peterbilt, marketed small Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks in the US using what were originally Leyland cabs!
Still today the US Class 7 CoE are Kenworth and Peterbilt rebadged DAF LF
@@MirkoC407 Yes, the Daf LF cabs were in a way replacements for the Leyland versions, known as the T45 cab.
About Shell being dutch or british. It's complicated 😂. The correct answer is Both ( *) ..
At the moment the headquarters are in London. Based on that you could argue it's British, but you would risk a dutch fury saying that 😂
. By ownership it is Impossible to say these days, as the majority owners are institutional investors of whom the largest only holds 4% of stock. Yet by origine it was absolutely as much Dutch as British. A diamond in the Dutch crown.
* It was formed in April 1907 through the merger of Royal Dutch Petroleum Company of the Netherlands and The "Shell" Transport and Trading Company of the United Kingdom. Until its unification in 2005 as Royal Dutch Shell plc, the firm operated as a dual-listed company, whereby the British and Dutch companies maintained their legal existence and separate listings but operated as a single-unit partnership. From 2005 to 2022, the company had its headquarters in The Hague, its registered office in London and had two types of shares (A and B). In January 2022, the firm merged the A and B shares, moved its headquarters to London, and changed its legal name to Shell plc. . Based on this i'd say Both is still the correct answer, maybe not on paper, but it is in hearts and minds. 😊
By 2021 revenues, Shell is the second-largest investor-owned oil company in the world (after ExxonMobil), the largest company headquartered in the United Kingdom, the second-largest company headquartered in Europe (after Volkswagen), and the 15th largest company in the world.
10:12 Mack was owend by Renault form 1979 (Chrysler was interested to buy them already in 60th) onwards. Nowadays Mack is owend by Volvo
So Mack and M.A.N (abbreviation for Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg) never had anything to do with each other.
But M.A.N once owned the US Brand Western Star for a short Time.
Also the Logos a diffrent. Mack got a Bulldog and the Animal on the M.A.N Trucks is a Lion. They got that Lion from there German Competitor Büssing, when they bought them in 1971.
Today M.A.N is also no longer its own independent Brand.
They now belong to Volkswagen. Same with Scania.
Nearly all US Trucks in Europe are imported. After WWII no US Companys was (for whatever reason) really interested in selling Trucks here in Europe.
Which is kinda Funny when you think about, that Chevrolet start selling Trucks Europe with big effort (for its time) in 1926.
1:32 Leyland was a former britsh truck bilder befor Daf bought it. And than the Daf LF is bild there
Mack ist part of Volvo Group, so not connected to MAN.
MAN actually belongs to Volkswagen Group, as does Scania actually. Or more precisely to Traton, which is still VW owned, but they gave it a new name and it's a listed company on the stock exchange in it's own right.
Freightliner and Western Star trucks from the US for example actually belong to Mercedes (Daimler Trucks), as does Mitsubishi trucks.
DAF on the other hand belongs to US company Paccar (Peterbilt, Kenworth).
Renault Trucks belong to Volvo (Volvo cars however DO NOT belong to Volvo, they are owned by Geely from China).
Ford Trucks were taken over by Iveco and the Ford brand discontinued.
Getting tricky to follow all these takeovers and mergers 😀
yeah that is now.... but in those day's not, think scania was working with Mack in the 70 or 80's, they made the V8.
My dad had one off the first DAF 2800 you will find it in the DAF museum now.
Did ride a lot with him to south France. cheese to France and whine back to the Netherlands.
Driving thrue the Alps over the mont Ventoux was an adventure. climbing with 25 Metric tons off whine in second gear took a while. with 320 horse.
There was one section when you had to stop. You needed to back out and put the truck sideways to start in the lowest gear called the crawl gear now walking was faster.
8:32 this car seems to be a matra bagheera and that's french. 11:19 that's more a 80's truck and for man as far as i know it's not related to mack but in the 90's mack was bought by renault trucks.
Shell plc is a British multinational of Dutch-British origin, one of the six largest state-independent oil companies in the world.
8:19 we still have ford trucks in Europe. Just search for Ford F-Max. Its a interesting Truck. In the past, trucks drivers used to drive much longer distances, for example from Europe to the Middle East, Iran, etc.
Yes, but it's a Turkish built product built by Ford Otosan. Truck drivers still drive longer distances from UK and Europe, to North Africa, Central Asia and parts of the Middle East. Also to Russia previous to the current conflict.
DAF 🧡Holland 🧡
I've never seen US trucks in daily use on German roads. It would have caused a lot of problems for the owners to run them here. Regarding spare parts and all that. Hell, a workshop would even need special tools, with those silly inch measurements. Like 54/78 or something. Are they still using this today?
No Iveco Turbostar, no party.
A Turbostar really drafts... through the rustholes and the panel gaps 😂😂
@@Sjanzo bro this is such a weird nude bot
@@Sjanzo Well, are you that annoyed?
The TurboStar simply has the largest V8 truck engine that has ever existed in Europe...
Nothing could compare to it...
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@@loscemodelvillaggio7950 the Iveco V8 already is a distant memory in trucks for a decade.. The Cursor 16 replaces it.
Mack was owned by Renault trucks. Then Volvo bought Renault trucks and got Mack in the deal. So now Mack is under Volvo. (Remember Volvo cars and Volvo AB is not the same company since Volvo cars was sold to Ford back in the days.)
my dad drove scanias all his life but he also drove a dodge with renault engine
Mack belongs to Volvo Group and Renault also belongs to them
Theres lots of mountains and hills in Europe. Germany for example and so on. But i guess someone else allready said that in the comments. Europe isnt flat. Only the Netherlands is. Lol.
And Poland if you like to be above sea level
The A in a circle is a seddon Atkinson I think. My dad had a brand new one back maybe late 70’s early 80’s
In the 70 -80 s form Europa thy drive to the middle east. This video white old trucks : Trucking Images of precious memories now only portrayed in video
No, MAN and Mack aren't related. It's Volvo who owns Mack currently.
You need to understand how to decode the age from the date letter on UK number plates. These all were from the late 70’s to mid 90’s.
Mack belong to Renault V.I.
ROMAN is just Romanian MAN.
Mack and Renault Trucks are owned by Volvo Trucks.
That took me back to travelling in my dads truck in the 70's and early 80's. He started in a Bedford TK, then a Leyland Bison. Last one I can remember was the Leyland Roadtrain. It was tough back then, no driver aids like modern trucks. Thing I remember the most is the noise, especially at higher speeds. 😂 The Michelin man on that trucks bumper, you got them free with new tires. It was popular to have them mounted on the mirrors and lit up at night. 😁
For your knowledge, MAN belongs to the Volkswagen group who owns also SCANIA .
DAF belongs to Paccar who owns Kenworth and Peterbilt.
Volvo trucks owns Renault trucks who owns MACK
And IVECO is indirectly own by FIAT via the CNi (CASE New Holland) holding
The old Euro trucks look great nowadays. Still see a few on the roads in Australia.
I do not remember seeing any US trucks on German roads until the late Nineties. Apparently Mercedes bought or contracted with Peterbilt which enabled European customers to buy a Mercedes chassis with Peterbilt cabin on them, so some did that. They do look really great but do have their shortcomings, especially as drivers will have greater trouble taking them through really tight spots. than with the usual cab-overs.
P.S.: The Mercedes at 11:20 could be an 814 or similar. With Mercedes trucks and transporters, the first digit indicates the weight and the second two a tenth of the horsepower. So an 814 would be "8 tons, 140hp", a 1320 "13 tons, 200hp".
Actually, the 814 is 7.5 tons. At least in Germany, the 7.5 ton class was very widely spread as the old class III driver's license allowed you to drive light motorcycles up to certain stroke volumes, tractors, cars and 7.5 ton trucks with a single or twin axle trailer. The exact data of what you were allowed to drive changed over the years. Until Nov. 10th, 1980, motorcycles up to 125cc were allowed, after that only 50cc/45kph. I got my license in 1989 and am still allowed a 7.5 ton truck with a trailer of 90% of the total weight of the truck pulling, which makes 6.9 tons. Later ones were restricted in trailer weight, I think.) In total, that gets to almost 14 tons and a fifty feet truck-trailer-combo. (Some time in the late Nineties, that was changed with the Europe harmonised classes for driver licenses, the class B replaced III and only allows cars with smaller trailers up to 3.5 tons total weight. 3.5 tons is the magic number, for all vehicles heavier than that are restricted to 80 kph/50 mph in Germany. (Hello Cyberbeast! ☺You no do speedy-speedy here! 😁You too fat! 😜) Thus comes the strange situation that the Mercedes Sprinter (3.5 ton max weight) in the bigger engine versions actually is allowed to go the 200kph it can do. That is a level of speed that most definitely is not safe with that kind of vehicle anymore! I speak from my own experience, I was grateful the Autobahn A1 Cologne-Euskirchen was empty that day when I needed the full width of all lanes to keep that 317 in check after a gust hit us at that speed. Not at all fun!
In the 70s and 80s you could see a lot of British and American trucks on German roads.
95% of them were vehicles from the NATO forces of these countries stationed in the Federal Republic of Germany.
The remaining 5% was goods traffic and removals that were connected to the NATO forces.
In particular here in northern Germany the American transport traffic via the former Carl Schurz Army Barracks in Bremerhaven, which served the US Army as an import port for the Federal Republic and the British freight forwarder Eddie Stobart Limited, which apparently managed the removals of British army personnel.
I can also still remember the supply of NAFFI, the supermarket chain of the British armed forces here in northern Germany.
Peterbilt? I don't think so... Mercedes bought Freightliner in 1981 and Western Star Trucks in 2000.
@@monolith2063 Then it was them. Either way, you did see some Mercedes trucks dressed up as US trucks here.
The truck at 11:20 is not a 7.5t- Truck but a fullsize truck like a 16-ton, called NK (Neue Klasse - new class). It is the predecessor to the blue and yellow one at 2:40 (this one was a NG Neue Generation). The biggest optical difference were the doors: the old trucks had a narrow and high window and a smaller, but wider window, whereas in the later trucks the underside of both windows was a rising line. Of course the engines, gearboxes etc. were much more modern but invisible.
@@65Tedybear Mercedes-Benz calls the truck type at 11:17 "Neue Generation 80 or NG 80".
So this truck was built in 1980 or later.
The designation "Neue Klasse" did not exist.
The successor to the NG 80 was then called "Schwere Klasse or SK" from 1988 on.
@ 8:50 that car looks like a 3 seater Matra-Simca Bagheera, a nice little "poorman sportcar "
the " ROMAN" is a old MAN F7 / F8 , M A N, as a subsidiary of VW, has many different "model names" for the vehicles
ROMAN for Romania, ÖAF for Austria and so on
to distinguish a "MERC" how OLD it is, look at the wheel arches and the radiator grille "Plastic" is 80s, metal is 70s
with variations that can be described as an "upgrade"... very old Mercedes had a small flap with the logo on it, underneath was the radiator filler neck and had "flaps for fresh air in the doors, the newer ones didn't have that anymore... I drove Mercedes myself for almost 20 years and repaired them during my apprenticeship
MAN only became owned by VW recently. They had nothing to do with them in the 80s and 90s. The Roman Diesel truck isn't a rebadged MAN, but a licence built one from Romania. Same story with ÖAF trucks.
IVECO is absolutely massive, buying up something like 10 plus truck building companies around the world.
Romania MAN = ROMAN
GB Lizence build Volvo F12s is ERF
and GMC Astro is Chevrolet Titan
But Mack is Mack
and the K100s and W900s as like the 352s and 379s from Kenworth and Peterbilt are Import
12:40 That's a UK registration plate. "P" registration goes from august 1996, to July 1997. So that's not as old as you think. Probably, at the earliest, built late-1995 / early-1996.
think the volvo FH12 was originally introduced in 1993 so yeah it must be the newest one in this compilation.
P registration was a 1997 plate (1st August 1996 to 31st July 1997), so as you say the truck is probably from 1985 or 1986 built stock. Although the photo was probably taken later than 1997 as the truck doesn't look brand new, probably more likely to be around 1998. So the Shell sign isn't of an early time but late 90s.
@@martinwebb1681 the FH series first hit the market in 93 so its not a old one. probably a second owner registration
@@MrLarsgren ... 😂Just realised I put the wrong date. Was meant to say "from 1995 or 1996 built stock". Cheers. 👍
The Volvo's you mentioned are from the early 70's and also 60ties......you just saw the f89, its has a big gril...the f88 had a smaller one....in 1976 Volvo introduced the F10 and F12
You can hear them. For example the Mercedes from these era's are called NG and SK. They have straight 6 V6 V8 V10 and v12s.
ruclips.net/video/_fgyJoA-OFM/видео.htmlsi=CiquZGzNpYe1PoF0 V8 example. They have unique iconic idle.
If you like old trucks, then you should look for IVECO V8! Much better than Scania back then ;) TURBOSTAR 190-48 or 520 Eurostar V8! In Germany, many Scania drivers say that uphill before you pulled the fuse, the IVECO V8 was already 1km ahead... Torque old school :) :) :)
A little bit of info for you..... 1986. IVECO Ford Truck Ltd, a joint venture (and de facto merger) in which IVECO S.p.A. holds a 52% share with Ford's truck business in Europe, was established.
Roman was M.A.N built under licence in Romania.
Drove what we call HGV for over 35 yrs. Most of the old British truck brands had dissappeared by the '90's. Mack is in with Volvo. I can even remeber truck cabs being built in wood!
12:11 No, MAN and the German truck manufacturer Büssing from Braunschweig belong together.
Büssing was famous for the design of the underfloor engines in trucks, which was then continued by MAN for a while.
Büssing was taken over by MAN in 1971.
The lion in the radiator grille below the MAN logo is the Braunschweig lion, the coat of arms of Braunschweig and the Büssing company logo.
Even today, a reminder for the connoisseur of the famous truck brand Büssing on every MAN truck!
Büssing AG: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%BCssing_AG
Büssing 320 Unterflur, West Germany: ruclips.net/video/e1ZpnU0oAlc/видео.html
MAN Büssing Unterflur: ruclips.net/video/2EDWKKp-sI0/видео.html
Hi. I Like your Videos. I‘m glad to see These Old Trucks. I‘ m a CB Operater since 1980. I talked with a lot of Truckers and sometimes I was on Tour with ‚em. I‘m 100% Scania Fan because One Trucker drove me to School with his 1979 Scania 111 LB.
Later I was Member of the Saurer Club in Switzerland. But I live in South Western Germany. Saurer are tough Trucks. Greetings from CB Station Buffalo,Germany.
Keep on Trucking
Even mire hardcore trucks were in eastern europe: Kraz, Kamaz, Liaz from USSR. Then skoda or the beast 8x8 Tatar from Czech Republic. Then the twin Raba and Roman (both MAN license) from Hungary and Romania. And bringing up the rear was the IFA from East Germany. Also Praga trucks were I retesting. Look them up, a whole other trucking world back East!
Akerson is a british truck with a Big A .The e other truck you mentioned, Mack trucks, was bought out by the French company Renault.Other European trucks worth a mentioning,like OEM, KAMAZ,Russian,TATRA,an Austrian truck and STYRE,i think a Switzerland.Some European cars and trucks were using square headlights since 1960, i have books of European trucks. great video👍
Fiat trucks later became Iveco..... Who also had a partnership with Ford in the 80s.
I love Scania's myself, but I love the old foden's, Seddon Atkinson's, boxy DAF's & ERF's and the FH10 Volvo's.
Interestingly Foden and ERF used rebranded DAF cabs - but I loved them as individuals.
It was a great time to be an 80's kid growing up with these awesome trucks all around.
Ford produced heavy trucks and semis in Brazil until 2019. The boxy 1980s style Ford Cargo sold in Europe and the USA was produced until 2010 around here, after that we had the new generation Cargo which was exclusive for Brazil and Turkey I think
The „Bulldog“ you see under the M.A.N logo is actually a lion from the company Büssing. MAN and Büssing merged in the 70ies. But you still find the lion-logo on the grill and the steering wheel. 😉
In the 70s and 80s you could see a US brand truck in Europe sometimes, I think they were privately imported as there was no dealer network for them in Europe. Mack was the most common brand, but most imports predated the conglomerate of Renault/Volvo/Mack, so not with MAN as you thought. DAF is part of the Paccar group which also owns Peterbilt and Kenworth. MAN belongs to the Traton group which also owns Scania, Navistar (IHC) and VW trucks and busses of Brazil.
Ford was once a relative common brand, but they have withdrawn from the heavy truck market in Europe.
Other rarities I noticed was a Berliet, a French company absorbed into the renault/PSA group and since 1980 all trucks would be sold under the Renault brand.
Fiat was absorbed into the Iveco group, together with Lancia special vehicles and OM, both of Italy, Unic of France and Magirus/Deutz of Germany.
Also notice that the really old pictures from the early 70s show mostly tandem axle trailers like what's common in the US, but then a switch to mostly three axle trailers with ultra wide single tyres placed more towards the center happened, this enabled a different weight distribution and the further use of 4x2 tractors with higher gross weights, exception was the UK with lower allowed axle loadings which made a tag axle necessary, often lifting so that they could drive without this axle on the road surface when on the continent for better traction and fuel efficiency and less tyre wear.
DAF started out using leyland engines in the 50's. come the 90's leyland was on the ropes due to illadvised bureaucracy and were eventually bought by daf. UK daf's for a time were badged Leyland daf. Since 2000 daf became part of the paccar group.
@3:46 is a ford transcontinental (probably made in Belgium).
If it says fiat it's likely pre 75, when they became IVECO (industria VEhicle COrporation)
A few US COEs were used in europe, but were personal choice. A few were kept as show pieces.
Ford trucks in europe got taken over by iveco.
@10:30 is an atkinson from the UK. They joind with seddon before iveco took them over.
Roman trucks are romanian. They use MAN cabas and running gear.
11:51 is a foden. It's british. It's founder was edwin foden who started out making steam wagens. His son Edwin Richard Foden would leave the firm eventually and start ERF. Foden eventually ended up under the control of MAN while ERF is part of the Paccar group.
ROMAN is a Romanian brand. It was built during the communist era and it basically is a worse MAN. If you take the "RO" in front of the MAN and center "MAN", it will look exactly like a MAN from that period. Those were not great, but this is what we had since it was not possible (or very hard) to import trucks from Western Europe.
Haven't looked all the comments trough, so maybe I'll just be repeating.....
A lot of the pictures was from mid '90's, some even had date stamps on them.
And the picture with the newer SHELL sign, is also, the Volvo FH model first came in the mid '90's...
And like someone mentioned, take a look at the DAF rally truck that outran (maybe a Peogeot) a rally car, insane..
ford do have a new cabover the Ford F-Max from around 2018. ive never seen one on road so pretty rare but have driven it on euro truck sim, its like a car inside. good performance to and seen some pages say 42 ton it can pull. Engine. Type: Ecotorq 12.7L Engine Power: 500 PS Torque: 2500 Nm 1,843 lb-ft of torque mated to a 12-speed ZF Traxon automatic. uk had ford trucks for a long time but ones see most smaller ones, even tow trucks too
6:00 yes, back in the 70s and 80s some us trucks were sold in europe, mainly Mack and Kenworth cabovers. There was a swiss company, Friederici, that ran a whole fleet of Kenworth K100 and K100E back than, and a few T600 conventionals. And for some reason Kenworth managed to sell a bunch of T800s as dump trucks in the 90s in europe.
But they never got a proper foothold in the european marked, Kenworth still runs a dealership in Strassourg, France, but they sell mainly oldschool conventionals, W900, as show trucks today, and don´t compete in the normal truck market with the domestic brands.
The only one may be Ford, still a us brand but they adapt very heavily to local markets. They released a brand new cabover truck model in recent years, i think it´s made somwhere in Turkey, and has kind of a reputation as a barebone cheap truck.
11:42 This is a Romanian truck from the Eastern Bloc, Warsaw Pact countries, in Great Britain.
RO country code for Romania on the front bumper.
ROMAN Diesel manufactured MAN trucks in Romania under license since 1969.
Very nice pictures of old trucks! I drove my truck driver license with an old Scania 93M, a small truck but it was an awesome machine. The 10-gear splitter gearbox required some practice to get used to.
Mountain picture (two Scanias) look like the boarder area between Austria and Switzerland. Btw, love your G plate from Graz ;) Regards from Vienna
BERLIET French truck, Saviem, Renault now!
Im 30 year old bosnian and got into trucking after i got my college degree and was unable to get any job in my branch (Bosnia and Herzegovina is not in EU so we are kind of cutted of) while having a loan and a bunch of monthly expenses. It was a great job moneywise but that's it. Only good thing i liked about it was driving to mid east and Asia (Mongolia, Kazakhstan). Allthough many people preferr EU driving, i liked doing far east.
It was hard work,but plus side.no driver CPC no speed limiters.no 15 minute delivery slots.less traffic.car drivers show respect.park up anywhere no restrictions, no shortage of cafe,truck stops.
In the 70’s, 80’s and part of the 90’s Mercedes used to be very high on the list of reliable trucks in europe. Their twin turbo V8 engines were famous for reliability and low end torque. They were also early in the game with semi-automated transmissions, and ABS brakes were fitted as standard from the mid 80’s. A lot of truck manufacturers in europe used to offer V8 engines, but only Scania use them today. Most had to ditch the V8’s due to emissions.
I remember my uncle working at Pegaso (spanish truck manufacturer) and then they got bought by Iveco and disappeared :(
MACK is with the Volvo group, which include Renault Trucks as well and some defence companies.
To iwrocker thanks for not asking to use my video in your video.Can you please remove the the video if not i will report you and get the video removed.as the video is mine.
Mack is owned by Volvo under Renault trucks. Volvo bought Renault trucks mostly to get Mack so they could break into the American truck market 👍🏻
Scania "invented" the truck ribbed grille in 1968. And has since used many variations on this theme. Others have tried to jump on this style but none has really succeeded... most being clumsy and exaggerated.
@11:32 That looks like it could be at the port of Dover in Kent UK. That was one of the main ports for crossing over to France. Just as you came out of the port there was a roundabout flying the Union flag 🇬🇧 And the buildings are in keeping of a coastal town.
Once waiting for the ferry there in the early 90s there was an old Polish truck. So under powered it couldn't get up the ramp to board the ferry. Had 3 attempts each time with a longer run up. Must of had a 100 meter run up to get up a 30 meter ramp, still only just made it. Driver done well backing down the ramp at speed keeping it all straight.