Hi Mr Wroker, this is Grahame I'm a Brit living in The Netherlands. I used to drive long-haul from the UK into Europe back in the 1970/80 era, and it was the best time to drive trucks. I drove a Mercedes 1626 and a 1628, a Scania 142M, a DAF 2800 & 3300, an MAN, and a Ford Transcontinental all over Western Europe. The trucks with a plate showing TIR on the front are transporting goods through many different countries in one trip. TIR is short for "Transports International Routiers" and the trailer was sealed by Customs at the point of loading. The driver was then given paperwork stating at which border crossing he must go through into each country. At each of these border crossings the seals were checked by that country's customs officials and the paperwork stamped to show that the seals were intact. At the point of unloading the seals were finally broken and the goods unloaded. Life on the road then was a bit hard compared to today. We had no automatic gearbox, no SatNav only road maps, no AirCo, no microwave ovens to cook in, no in-cab refrigerator, just a steering wheel, three foot pedals, a bunk bed, and a gear stick. But the camaraderie on the road was absolute, no matter what nationality you were.
TIR is now used for shipping outside of EU and Schengen area, but before the EU it was used like that and no cruisecontrol either, im happy that im driving a truck with adaptive cruise control for regular freight but something like a DAF 3600 ATI Spacecab for freight between 2 short points would be cool too
Hi man! ROMAN is MAN produced in Romania, with a license bought in the 70s, if I'm not mistaken. There was also a division called DAC. Greetings from Romania!
As a German, seeing these trucks reminds me of childhood.Most of these models you would either see on the road here, or on TV (Especially on the show "Auf Achse", centered around the adventures of two truckers on routes to Africa, the Middle East etc. Definitely a childhood favourite of mine.)
The truck you couldn't make out was Foden a long since defunct British manufacturer. ERF was also a branch of the same family, it stood for Edwin Richard Foden. Finally the Truck with an 'A' in a circle on the grill was an Atkinson, another British truck manufacturer.
What was trucking like back then? When I was a little boy there was a German TV series called "Auf Achse" about 2 truckers having adventures through all of Europe and Africa. It is such a different world when you watch it now, now all borders in Europe are gone and we all use the same Euro money. Even countries that don't exist anymore. Days stuck at the Yugoslavian border, trying to exchange Deutschmark for Sloti or Dinar or whatever they had, trying to call your boss in Germany but the phones dont work etc.etc.etc. Seems so alien now. One of them drove one of those Mercedes, the other one I can't remember..
@@altblechasyl_cs2093 They drove about everything available in central Europe, also many Ivecos, occasionally a Scania or when abroad helping friends they might end in some local specialities like Sisu in Finland. As far as I know, the only brand in Europe none of them ever drove was DAF.
Heya - these were great! 💛 A few bits of info: The cabover at 5:33 was indeed a Kenworth, more specifically a Kenworth K100. 🙂 The Mack at 10:00 was a Mack F-Series. The blue truck at 10:32 is a Seddon Atkinson, I believe it is an Atkinson Borderer. The greyscale picture 10:40 shows a GMC Astro, a rebadge of which was also sold as the Chevrolet Titan. The ochre truck at 11:46 appears to be a Foden Fleetmaster. In case you're interested in more old British lorry/bus brands besides ERF Trucks, British Leyland, Foden and Seddon Atkinson, some other notable examples include Sentinel Waggon Works (who've produced many steam-powered trucks up until the 1930s), Scammell Lorries, Bedford Vehicles, Austin (mostly famous for their cars), Associated Equipment Company (AEC), Bristol Commercial Vehicles (or just Bristol, like the town) and Thornycroft. If you're interested in even more, I would suggest searching on Wikipedia for "Category:Truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom" (for the ones that are still around (there aren't that many), but the rest of the manufacturers are listed when searching for "Category:Defunct truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom". 🙂 Hope this helps! ⭐
The Lowe Transport ones were an ERF and an Atkinson. the Atkins International one was a Foden. The Roman Diesel was Man trucks built under licence in Romania. American trucks were never popular in Europe but there were small numbers back in the 1970s and 1980s, and even fewer in the 1990s after that they virtually disappeared. In the UK we had Mack, White and Kenworth mainly with the odd International. There were also some American rigid trucks in areas near the airports here, mainly US Fords, GMCs and Internationals belonging to the American and Canadian airlines like Pan-Am, TWA, Air Canada, etc. Also the American forces have always had their US trucks here, I would always see them on the motorways back in the 1980s and 90s. There was a company based close to me in East London in the 70s and they had a GMC bonneted artic, it was a real head turner, and the only GMC artic I ever saw on UK plates.
8:32 this car seems to be a matra bagheera and that's french. 11:19 that's more a 80's truck and for man as far as i know it's not related to mack but in the 90's mack was bought by renault trucks.
The Ford at 8.08 minutes is a model called the Transcontinental. They were rare even when new. Had an advanced ( for the time) cab suspension system. Some drivers loved it, many complained of sea-sickness.....
The Ford used a cab from a French truck manufacturer, which was also used in the late 80’s by Renault. We had them at my factory, they were great to drive in the yard (private property).
@@iaing9028 "The Ford used a cab from a French truck manufacturer,..." with the name Berliet, who first developed the modern semitrailer cab. The Truck was the Berliet TR 300 V8.
@@ULTRA_2112 Thanks for that information, I knew the cab design was shared by Renault & the earlier Fords from the late 70’s. It was only recently that I had heard of Berliet, when the cab 1st came out it was ahead of the competition.
Very nice pictures of old trucks! I drove my truck driver license with an old Scania 93M, a small truck but it was an awesome machine. The 10-gear splitter gearbox required some practice to get used to.
The Daf 95 was from when Daf took over the running of Leyland trucks, (1987-ish) and were initially marketed in the UK as "Leyland-Daf". As it happens, Paccar, the parent company of Daf, who control the likes of Kenworth and Peterbilt, marketed small Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks in the US using what were originally Leyland cabs!
I started Trucking in 86. It was HELLA hard & very Dirty. Some (most) of the trucks you practically had to wear ear defenders to drive them so there was no point in putting a radio in them. Viz the scene..... Monday morning at Silly O'clock you arrive in the Yard. Put your night out gear & maps etc into the cab and then start to rope the load in the dark. As you throw the rope over you hear "Spludge" as it lands in the thick mud the other side of the trailer. Now you do a Dolly knot and the mud runs all down your arms & body. Do this multiple times until the load is properly secured. Start your journey. When it gets light and you can see yourself you look like you've just been dragged over the Somme Battlefield. Now understand you WON'T be coming home all week. But the Truckers Camaraderie was brilliant and you really did enjoy the job. ESPECIALLY locating the correct "Home Farm" when every farm in Norfolk is called "Home Farm" !!
My dad had one off the first DAF 2800 you will find it in the DAF museum now. Did ride a lot with him to south France. cheese to France and whine back to the Netherlands. Driving thrue the Alps over the mont Ventoux was an adventure. climbing with 25 Metric tons off whine in second gear took a while. with 320 horse. There was one section when you had to stop. You needed to back out and put the truck sideways to start in the lowest gear called the crawl gear now walking was faster.
Those older trucks kicked ass, dude, I remember watching these older trucks leaving the docks at Liverpool, brings back fond memories, once again, great video, dude, keep up the great videos, high to all the family,chau for now
Hi. When I first started work as an apprentice telephone engineer in 1967 (yes a long time ago!) we had a fleet of Carrier trucks. It had a cab with two front seats, driver and foreman, and in the rear crew compartment seating for two with a fold down seat for the apprentice, me. The rear was built especially for working with poles and cables. The front end of the van had an upper opening flap to allow up 60 60ft poles. The rear had a drop down tailgate with a removable load-bar for resting the long poles on and they would poke out of the opening flap. Inside the van had a rack of four aluminium ladders, a shelf of wooden pods that the insulators that held wires to pole arms. Plenty of room for pole erection gear, an aluminium par of sheerlegs for pole erecting, special digging tools, called a spoon and rabbeter, 10ft handles one, the spoon was a flat bottomed plate for scooping earth from a deep hole, the rabbeter was like a 19ft log trowel but stronger. Of course regular tools like picks, shovels, sledge hammer, felling axe. Specialist tools like ratchets and tonges, these gripped a copper wire and a key wound the rai=tchet to tension the copper wire. The other oddity was what was called Rods Continuous, a very long approx. 100 yard long flexible steel rod in a round cage, used for rodding, i.e. getting a cable through an underground duct. Every vehicle had what was called a Tundish, like a big Wok, always used by the gang to relieve themselves, meant for bailing water out of manholes. The vehicle had a hefty towing hitch to haul, compressors, pumps, cable trailers or the special trailers for erecting and carrying red phone boxes, our special trailer carried a Go-Cat tracked al terrain vehicle for access to mountain radio transmitters. Sorry can't find a photo.
@11:32 That looks like it could be at the port of Dover in Kent UK. That was one of the main ports for crossing over to France. Just as you came out of the port there was a roundabout flying the Union flag 🇬🇧 And the buildings are in keeping of a coastal town. Once waiting for the ferry there in the early 90s there was an old Polish truck. So under powered it couldn't get up the ramp to board the ferry. Had 3 attempts each time with a longer run up. Must of had a 100 meter run up to get up a 30 meter ramp, still only just made it. Driver done well backing down the ramp at speed keeping it all straight.
That took me back to travelling in my dads truck in the 70's and early 80's. He started in a Bedford TK, then a Leyland Bison. Last one I can remember was the Leyland Roadtrain. It was tough back then, no driver aids like modern trucks. Thing I remember the most is the noise, especially at higher speeds. 😂 The Michelin man on that trucks bumper, you got them free with new tires. It was popular to have them mounted on the mirrors and lit up at night. 😁
4:50 I'd say it's Northern Italy. The mountains in the background look tall, so quite safe to assume it's the Alps. Also, the trailer in the background says viaggio, which is italian. (Still could be Austria or Switzerland as well)
12:40 That's a UK registration plate. "P" registration goes from august 1996, to July 1997. So that's not as old as you think. Probably, at the earliest, built late-1995 / early-1996.
P registration was a 1997 plate (1st August 1996 to 31st July 1997), so as you say the truck is probably from 1985 or 1986 built stock. Although the photo was probably taken later than 1997 as the truck doesn't look brand new, probably more likely to be around 1998. So the Shell sign isn't of an early time but late 90s.
Hi. I Like your Videos. I‘m glad to see These Old Trucks. I‘ m a CB Operater since 1980. I talked with a lot of Truckers and sometimes I was on Tour with ‚em. I‘m 100% Scania Fan because One Trucker drove me to School with his 1979 Scania 111 LB. Later I was Member of the Saurer Club in Switzerland. But I live in South Western Germany. Saurer are tough Trucks. Greetings from CB Station Buffalo,Germany. Keep on Trucking
Leyland started off making steam powered vehicles. They were a massive and profitable truck manufacturer and made some iconic trucks with memorable brands. Then they got involved with the BL merger acquisition, and eventually, the truck division was acquired by DAF. You can tell the age of older trucks by the number plate in the UK. Except some carry personalised plates, this is particularly common on coaches for some reason.
We used to have an annual rally with just old trucks at Södertörn where I live. Pretty easy for me to photograph them all. I just walked down the street and started taking photos while waving to the drivers as they passed me by. Photo album at Flickr if you are interested.
9:50 apparently thia is the Le Perthus Pyramid and according to wikipedia it was meant as a "celebration of the role of the Pyrenean mountain passes, and especially of the Col du Perthus, in Catalan history."
I started my international trucking career in an old DAF 2800: no airconditioning, no cruise control, not much space, weak power steering, manual 2x4 gears, but all gears had synchromesh and the driver seat had air suspension. In those days i mostly drove from the port of Rotterdam to Germany and back. Sometimes Belgium, Luxemburg or inside the Netherlands.
I do not remember seeing any US trucks on German roads until the late Nineties. Apparently Mercedes bought or contracted with Peterbilt which enabled European customers to buy a Mercedes chassis with Peterbilt cabin on them, so some did that. They do look really great but do have their shortcomings, especially as drivers will have greater trouble taking them through really tight spots. than with the usual cab-overs. P.S.: The Mercedes at 11:20 could be an 814 or similar. With Mercedes trucks and transporters, the first digit indicates the weight and the second two a tenth of the horsepower. So an 814 would be "8 tons, 140hp", a 1320 "13 tons, 200hp". Actually, the 814 is 7.5 tons. At least in Germany, the 7.5 ton class was very widely spread as the old class III driver's license allowed you to drive light motorcycles up to certain stroke volumes, tractors, cars and 7.5 ton trucks with a single or twin axle trailer. The exact data of what you were allowed to drive changed over the years. Until Nov. 10th, 1980, motorcycles up to 125cc were allowed, after that only 50cc/45kph. I got my license in 1989 and am still allowed a 7.5 ton truck with a trailer of 90% of the total weight of the truck pulling, which makes 6.9 tons. Later ones were restricted in trailer weight, I think.) In total, that gets to almost 14 tons and a fifty feet truck-trailer-combo. (Some time in the late Nineties, that was changed with the Europe harmonised classes for driver licenses, the class B replaced III and only allows cars with smaller trailers up to 3.5 tons total weight. 3.5 tons is the magic number, for all vehicles heavier than that are restricted to 80 kph/50 mph in Germany. (Hello Cyberbeast! ☺You no do speedy-speedy here! 😁You too fat! 😜) Thus comes the strange situation that the Mercedes Sprinter (3.5 ton max weight) in the bigger engine versions actually is allowed to go the 200kph it can do. That is a level of speed that most definitely is not safe with that kind of vehicle anymore! I speak from my own experience, I was grateful the Autobahn A1 Cologne-Euskirchen was empty that day when I needed the full width of all lanes to keep that 317 in check after a gust hit us at that speed. Not at all fun!
In the 70s and 80s you could see a lot of British and American trucks on German roads. 95% of them were vehicles from the NATO forces of these countries stationed in the Federal Republic of Germany. The remaining 5% was goods traffic and removals that were connected to the NATO forces. In particular here in northern Germany the American transport traffic via the former Carl Schurz Army Barracks in Bremerhaven, which served the US Army as an import port for the Federal Republic and the British freight forwarder Eddie Stobart Limited, which apparently managed the removals of British army personnel. I can also still remember the supply of NAFFI, the supermarket chain of the British armed forces here in northern Germany.
The truck at 11:20 is not a 7.5t- Truck but a fullsize truck like a 16-ton, called NK (Neue Klasse - new class). It is the predecessor to the blue and yellow one at 2:40 (this one was a NG Neue Generation). The biggest optical difference were the doors: the old trucks had a narrow and high window and a smaller, but wider window, whereas in the later trucks the underside of both windows was a rising line. Of course the engines, gearboxes etc. were much more modern but invisible.
@@65Tedybear Mercedes-Benz calls the truck type at 11:17 "Neue Generation 80 or NG 80". So this truck was built in 1980 or later. The designation "Neue Klasse" did not exist. The successor to the NG 80 was then called "Schwere Klasse or SK" from 1988 on.
I worked in a shipping company/transport company for a while, my boss there was a former truck driver in like the 80s and 90s, and the stories he told... it sounded like it was practically lawless at times. Like one dude who transported fish to Italy, got drunk in Italy and just picked up a prostitute and taught her how to drive so she could do the last bit to delivery. :P And there were routes that went from all over Europe to Africa, which took a very long time, there's books written about it.
10:20 Mack belonged to RVI, Renault's truck division. Most of the six and eight cylinder engines of the iconic Renault AE Magnum truck were supplied by Mack. The Renault AE Magnum 500, 520 and 560 with the 16.4 liter Mack EE-9 V8 engine was the most powerful truck in Europe when it was launched in 1990.
The K100 Aerodyne was used by a few hauliers in the UK..Kenworth had a dealership at Chipping Sodbury Gloustershire...Kenworth also had a dealership in Switzerland ...Friderici Transport who ran a big fleet of KWs to the Middle East aswell as Europe....
Akerson is a british truck with a Big A .The e other truck you mentioned, Mack trucks, was bought out by the French company Renault.Other European trucks worth a mentioning,like OEM, KAMAZ,Russian,TATRA,an Austrian truck and STYRE,i think a Switzerland.Some European cars and trucks were using square headlights since 1960, i have books of European trucks. great video👍
Cool video The first truck i drove on the road was a scania 112m i wss only 24 back in 2002 It was a beast but was missing 7th gear 😂 The truck was alredy 13 years old but still went like a rocket 😂
8:19 we still have ford trucks in Europe. Just search for Ford F-Max. Its a interesting Truck. In the past, trucks drivers used to drive much longer distances, for example from Europe to the Middle East, Iran, etc.
Yes, but it's a Turkish built product built by Ford Otosan. Truck drivers still drive longer distances from UK and Europe, to North Africa, Central Asia and parts of the Middle East. Also to Russia previous to the current conflict.
@@martinwebb1681the Middle East haulage now isnt half of what it was in the old days. The glory days of TIR and intercontinental haulage. (rather than the majority international and regional haulage we have today)
@@BladeRMC187 ... No because times have changed. But some trucking companies still travel far and wide into parts of the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa.
The „Bulldog“ you see under the M.A.N logo is actually a lion from the company Büssing. MAN and Büssing merged in the 70ies. But you still find the lion-logo on the grill and the steering wheel. 😉
The vehicle at 10:32 is a Atkinson borderer. usually fitted with a Gardener 180 or 240 engine. The cab was an Ash wooden frame covered in aluminum panels. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seddon_Atkinson
Volvo AB owns - Renault trucks and Mack Traton owns - Scania, MAN, Volkswagen trucks, Navistar Paccar owns - Leyland trucks, Kenworth, Peterbilt, DAF (DAF cars was bought by Volvo back in the days.) Daimler owns - Mercedes trucks, Freightliner, Western star, Fuso (Mitsubishi trucks), Detroit diesel (Detroit diesel is an Mercedes engine) Exor owns - IVECO. They also work toghter with the Chinese SAIC and Naveco. Exor is also one of the larger if not the largest owner in Stellantis around 14%of the stocks. (IVECO was a merge from Fiat, Lancia, OM from Italy, Magirus Deutz from Germany and Unic from France. Ford owns- Ford Otosan (based in Turkey) who owns Ford semi trucks They make their trucks in Turkey, China and Russia. Tatra trucks is a private company based in the Czech Republic. Sisu auto owns - Sisu trucks Built in Finland and they use Mercedes engines. The Asian truck brands I do not have that good knowledge about.
One German truck manufacturer which didn't appear here is Magirus Deutz. They were acquired by Fiat/Iveco later (in the 1980ies, I think). They were quite legendary for their fire engines. Other old German manufacturers were Hanomag, Henschel, Büssing, Faun and Krupp.
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And the Ron Tailford one was too. That was his original colours before the white with red and blue stripes
In the 70’s, 80’s and part of the 90’s Mercedes used to be very high on the list of reliable trucks in europe. Their twin turbo V8 engines were famous for reliability and low end torque. They were also early in the game with semi-automated transmissions, and ABS brakes were fitted as standard from the mid 80’s. A lot of truck manufacturers in europe used to offer V8 engines, but only Scania use them today. Most had to ditch the V8’s due to emissions.
10:12 Mack was owend by Renault form 1979 (Chrysler was interested to buy them already in 60th) onwards. Nowadays Mack is owend by Volvo So Mack and M.A.N (abbreviation for Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg) never had anything to do with each other. But M.A.N once owned the US Brand Western Star for a short Time. Also the Logos a diffrent. Mack got a Bulldog and the Animal on the M.A.N Trucks is a Lion. They got that Lion from there German Competitor Büssing, when they bought them in 1971. Today M.A.N is also no longer its own independent Brand. They now belong to Volkswagen. Same with Scania. Nearly all US Trucks in Europe are imported. After WWII no US Companys was (for whatever reason) really interested in selling Trucks here in Europe. Which is kinda Funny when you think about, that Chevrolet start selling Trucks Europe with big effort (for its time) in 1926.
6:00 yes, back in the 70s and 80s some us trucks were sold in europe, mainly Mack and Kenworth cabovers. There was a swiss company, Friederici, that ran a whole fleet of Kenworth K100 and K100E back than, and a few T600 conventionals. And for some reason Kenworth managed to sell a bunch of T800s as dump trucks in the 90s in europe. But they never got a proper foothold in the european marked, Kenworth still runs a dealership in Strassourg, France, but they sell mainly oldschool conventionals, W900, as show trucks today, and don´t compete in the normal truck market with the domestic brands. The only one may be Ford, still a us brand but they adapt very heavily to local markets. They released a brand new cabover truck model in recent years, i think it´s made somwhere in Turkey, and has kind of a reputation as a barebone cheap truck.
Foden and ERF trucks were built in Sandbach, Cheshire. Seddon Atkinson were built at Woodstock Factory in Oldham. Atkinson also built bin wagons for the local were I lived.
@ 8:50 that car looks like a 3 seater Matra-Simca Bagheera, a nice little "poorman sportcar " the " ROMAN" is a old MAN F7 / F8 , M A N, as a subsidiary of VW, has many different "model names" for the vehicles ROMAN for Romania, ÖAF for Austria and so on to distinguish a "MERC" how OLD it is, look at the wheel arches and the radiator grille "Plastic" is 80s, metal is 70s with variations that can be described as an "upgrade"... very old Mercedes had a small flap with the logo on it, underneath was the radiator filler neck and had "flaps for fresh air in the doors, the newer ones didn't have that anymore... I drove Mercedes myself for almost 20 years and repaired them during my apprenticeship
MAN only became owned by VW recently. They had nothing to do with them in the 80s and 90s. The Roman Diesel truck isn't a rebadged MAN, but a licence built one from Romania. Same story with ÖAF trucks.
The ERF is a British truck as is the one with the big A in a circle. That is an Atkinson. Atkinson were also popular in Australia. Their later cabs were fibreglass and they ran American drivetrains, such as the old 2 stroke Detroit Diesel 8V71 or 6V92 mated to Eaton Fuller gearboxes.
For American trucks in Europe, in the 70's, Dodge bought the Spanish manufacturer Barreiros, and introduced Dodge trucks under the Barreros brand. Incidentally Barreiros made the Dodge Dart and 3700 for the Spanish market, including a Dodge Dart Diesel (mostly for taxis).
Drove what we call HGV for over 35 yrs. Most of the old British truck brands had dissappeared by the '90's. Mack is in with Volvo. I can even remeber truck cabs being built in wood!
The old M.A.N. and also some new have the Lion in the front as a reminder of Büssing trucks founded in 1908 at Braunschweig, Lower Saxony , a city that was founded by Henry the Lion, the founder of the house of welfs. Heinrich Büssing at the age of 60! Years switched from railway engineering to automotive transport trucks, his double decker bus from 1910 was delivered to London copied there and became standard transportation device. No problem for him his company was already struggling to deliver enough double deckers to Berlin and help Austria to produce at Austro-Daimler for Vienna…
Büssing factory at Braunschweig stopped production at 1972, but the licenses and technology was used on by MAN for another 2 decades.. MAN forms today together with Scania trucks the truck division of Volkswagen.. A Piech coup off course..
DAF started out using leyland engines in the 50's. come the 90's leyland was on the ropes due to illadvised bureaucracy and were eventually bought by daf. UK daf's for a time were badged Leyland daf. Since 2000 daf became part of the paccar group. @3:46 is a ford transcontinental (probably made in Belgium). If it says fiat it's likely pre 75, when they became IVECO (industria VEhicle COrporation) A few US COEs were used in europe, but were personal choice. A few were kept as show pieces. Ford trucks in europe got taken over by iveco. @10:30 is an atkinson from the UK. They joind with seddon before iveco took them over. Roman trucks are romanian. They use MAN cabas and running gear. 11:51 is a foden. It's british. It's founder was edwin foden who started out making steam wagens. His son Edwin Richard Foden would leave the firm eventually and start ERF. Foden eventually ended up under the control of MAN while ERF is part of the Paccar group.
Hi Ian, that are allmost all England or Ierland trucks, most of them driving to the south or south east (balkan) and yes over the Alps. but do look good to them, they all drive RHD trucks as you can see on the wipers ;-) but some of them are LHD drivers, that tells that those truck spend the most of there time on the other side of the channel and not in England or so :D
7:06 that looks like an Austrian Steyr truck from 2nd half of the Seventies . The same company that produced the Pinzgauer ATV for Austrian Army and was overtaken into Magna Group. I guess Magna Steyr still exists as a supplier, they produced Chrysler family vans between 1994 and 2000? In Austria.
The Volvo's you mentioned are from the early 70's and also 60ties......you just saw the f89, its has a big gril...the f88 had a smaller one....in 1976 Volvo introduced the F10 and F12
A little bit of info for you..... 1986. IVECO Ford Truck Ltd, a joint venture (and de facto merger) in which IVECO S.p.A. holds a 52% share with Ford's truck business in Europe, was established.
11:42 This is a Romanian truck from the Eastern Bloc, Warsaw Pact countries, in Great Britain. RO country code for Romania on the front bumper. ROMAN Diesel manufactured MAN trucks in Romania under license since 1969.
DAF passenger cars also had a continuously variable automatic transmission. The cars could drive forwards and backwards at the same speed. In 1975, Volvo took over the passenger car division of DAF.
DAF started out as a Trailer company Van Doornes Aanhanger Fabriek. Then they started to make trucks. in the 1950s the first passenger car was made the 600. I think you are mixing up Daf and Spijker - Spyker who made the first four wheel drive car.
Did you know about the brand "Saurer"? It was a swiss Truck, they still drive to this date, some have couple million miles on them. First vehicle on the streets with a Turbo! The Turbo also is a swiss invention. :D
In the 70s and 80s you could see a US brand truck in Europe sometimes, I think they were privately imported as there was no dealer network for them in Europe. Mack was the most common brand, but most imports predated the conglomerate of Renault/Volvo/Mack, so not with MAN as you thought. DAF is part of the Paccar group which also owns Peterbilt and Kenworth. MAN belongs to the Traton group which also owns Scania, Navistar (IHC) and VW trucks and busses of Brazil. Ford was once a relative common brand, but they have withdrawn from the heavy truck market in Europe. Other rarities I noticed was a Berliet, a French company absorbed into the renault/PSA group and since 1980 all trucks would be sold under the Renault brand. Fiat was absorbed into the Iveco group, together with Lancia special vehicles and OM, both of Italy, Unic of France and Magirus/Deutz of Germany. Also notice that the really old pictures from the early 70s show mostly tandem axle trailers like what's common in the US, but then a switch to mostly three axle trailers with ultra wide single tyres placed more towards the center happened, this enabled a different weight distribution and the further use of 4x2 tractors with higher gross weights, exception was the UK with lower allowed axle loadings which made a tag axle necessary, often lifting so that they could drive without this axle on the road surface when on the continent for better traction and fuel efficiency and less tyre wear.
3:44 Yes, that was a Ford. Seems like they're trying to get involved with trucks again in Europe as well. I saw a new truck a while back with a Ford badge, and came across an article a bit more recently stating they're back in the trucking industry. Not sure who they'd be working with though, or if they're doing it on their own. 5:35 Yup, that's a Kenny. In town where I used to work, you can still spot a W900 in the wild sometimes. Once had him behind me. That thing is intimidating with the tombstone grill. My dad even thinks he knows where that one is usually kept.
Ford produced heavy trucks and semis in Brazil until 2019. The boxy 1980s style Ford Cargo sold in Europe and the USA was produced until 2010 around here, after that we had the new generation Cargo which was exclusive for Brazil and Turkey I think
A lot of our older daf trucks sported the cummins 12 valve , an awesome cheap engine to slap in a land rover , could buy the trucks for under a grand a couple of years back .
@@gregshearer423 true, but none such trucks were in this video. 55 and 65 also used the ISB6.7 early Daf 65 still had the Daf 620 because the 6BTA wasnt beefy enough to put out 240hp all day long, its heads cracked.
Leyland DAF was a cooperation between DAF(Netherlands) and Leyland(UK), DAF eventually took over Leyland Trucks and now the RHD trucks are made in the Leyland factory
There was no Mercedes-Benz 1639 series, the successor to the model pictured from 1973 onwards was the "New Generation or NG". The vehicle pictured is the "Heavy Cabover Truck or LP/LPS", in production from 1963-1973. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Schwerer_Frontlenker en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_LP-series_(cubic) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_NG
As I said in a comment to your video of the vintage Leyland bus, the Leyland brand gradually came into the BLMC stable, through a long process of mergers & purchases. It was pretty much just a name from history. Other specific truck brand names were the likes of Foden, ERF, & Albion. Daf was a Dutch car manufacturer. I don't know how the name came to be part of the stable. The vans & trucks were hived off into a separate division, under the Leyland-Daf brand. Also LDV for the smaller vans. The 'Leyland' tag sort of got dropped, and the trucks bore the simple 'DAF' brand. Iveco is basically the name for Ford trucks nowadays. I passed my Class 1 test in an ERF [ English Road Freight, I believe ]. I got to drive most makes over a few years. My all time favourite was the DAF XF of the early 2000s, simply because they were the easiest & most comforting /reassuring to drive, even 16 spd manual.
Mack ist part of Volvo Group, so not connected to MAN. MAN actually belongs to Volkswagen Group, as does Scania actually. Or more precisely to Traton, which is still VW owned, but they gave it a new name and it's a listed company on the stock exchange in it's own right. Freightliner and Western Star trucks from the US for example actually belong to Mercedes (Daimler Trucks), as does Mitsubishi trucks. DAF on the other hand belongs to US company Paccar (Peterbilt, Kenworth). Renault Trucks belong to Volvo (Volvo cars however DO NOT belong to Volvo, they are owned by Geely from China). Ford Trucks were taken over by Iveco and the Ford brand discontinued. Getting tricky to follow all these takeovers and mergers 😀
It would be nice for you to be able to attend Le Mans truck race (France) in september where there’s a race of trucks and exposition of other regular trucks. It would be fun for you
For your knowledge, MAN belongs to the Volkswagen group who owns also SCANIA . DAF belongs to Paccar who owns Kenworth and Peterbilt. Volvo trucks owns Renault trucks who owns MACK And IVECO is indirectly own by FIAT via the CNi (CASE New Holland) holding
Fiat trucks later became Iveco..... Who also had a partnership with Ford in the 80s. I love Scania's myself, but I love the old foden's, Seddon Atkinson's, boxy DAF's & ERF's and the FH10 Volvo's. Interestingly Foden and ERF used rebranded DAF cabs - but I loved them as individuals. It was a great time to be an 80's kid growing up with these awesome trucks all around.
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Hi Mr Wroker, this is Grahame I'm a Brit living in The Netherlands. I used to drive long-haul from the UK into Europe back in the 1970/80 era, and it was the best time to drive trucks.
I drove a Mercedes 1626 and a 1628, a Scania 142M, a DAF 2800 & 3300, an MAN, and a Ford Transcontinental all over Western Europe. The trucks with a plate showing TIR on the front are transporting goods through many different countries in one trip. TIR is short for "Transports International Routiers" and the trailer was sealed by Customs at the point of loading. The driver was then given paperwork stating at which border crossing he must go through into each country. At each of these border crossings the seals were checked by that country's customs officials and the paperwork stamped to show that the seals were intact. At the point of unloading the seals were finally broken and the goods unloaded. Life on the road then was a bit hard compared to today. We had no automatic gearbox, no SatNav only road maps, no AirCo, no microwave ovens to cook in, no in-cab refrigerator, just a steering wheel, three foot pedals, a bunk bed, and a gear stick. But the camaraderie on the road was absolute, no matter what nationality you were.
TIR is now used for shipping outside of EU and Schengen area, but before the EU it was used like that
and no cruisecontrol either, im happy that im driving a truck with adaptive cruise control for regular freight but something like a DAF 3600 ATI Spacecab for freight between 2 short points would be cool too
Hi man! ROMAN is MAN produced in Romania, with a license bought in the 70s, if I'm not mistaken. There was also a division called DAC. Greetings from Romania!
You are fully right. no Mistake :) Thumbs up!
Not Roman is licenc off Saviem-Renault. Saviem-Renault and and M.A.N is 1967to 1980 product same trucks . Raba is licenc of M.A.N
@@alensmiljanic3844 You are false ... 1969 they get a MAN Licence with them prenamend Company Întreprinderea de Autocamioane Brașov!
As a German, seeing these trucks reminds me of childhood.Most of these models you would either see on the road here, or on TV (Especially on the show "Auf Achse", centered around the adventures of two truckers on routes to Africa, the Middle East etc. Definitely a childhood favourite of mine.)
The truck you couldn't make out was Foden a long since defunct British manufacturer. ERF was also a branch of the same family, it stood for Edwin Richard Foden. Finally the Truck with an 'A' in a circle on the grill was an Atkinson, another British truck manufacturer.
ERF was sold to MAN in 2000 and the last ERF truck was built in 2007. The brand doesn't exist any more.
@@monolith2063 I remember when there were ERF branded MAN F2000s in the early 2000s, before they dissappeared.
What was trucking like back then? When I was a little boy there was a German TV series called "Auf Achse" about 2 truckers having adventures through all of Europe and Africa. It is such a different world when you watch it now, now all borders in Europe are gone and we all use the same Euro money. Even countries that don't exist anymore. Days stuck at the Yugoslavian border, trying to exchange Deutschmark for Sloti or Dinar or whatever they had, trying to call your boss in Germany but the phones dont work etc.etc.etc. Seems so alien now. One of them drove one of those Mercedes, the other one I can't remember..
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There is another classic trucking TV-show called TIR. :)
Franz Mersdonk drove MB NG and Günther Willers got a Volvo F and MAN F8. 😉
And there were a season filmed in Chile too, not only Europe and Africa.
@@altblechasyl_cs2093 They drove about everything available in central Europe, also many Ivecos, occasionally a Scania or when abroad helping friends they might end in some local specialities like Sisu in Finland. As far as I know, the only brand in Europe none of them ever drove was DAF.
Don't forget the episodes in Thailand
Heya - these were great! 💛
A few bits of info:
The cabover at 5:33 was indeed a Kenworth, more specifically a Kenworth K100. 🙂
The Mack at 10:00 was a Mack F-Series.
The blue truck at 10:32 is a Seddon Atkinson, I believe it is an Atkinson Borderer.
The greyscale picture 10:40 shows a GMC Astro, a rebadge of which was also sold as the Chevrolet Titan.
The ochre truck at 11:46 appears to be a Foden Fleetmaster.
In case you're interested in more old British lorry/bus brands besides ERF Trucks, British Leyland, Foden and Seddon Atkinson, some other notable examples include Sentinel Waggon Works (who've produced many steam-powered trucks up until the 1930s), Scammell Lorries, Bedford Vehicles, Austin (mostly famous for their cars), Associated Equipment Company (AEC), Bristol Commercial Vehicles (or just Bristol, like the town) and Thornycroft. If you're interested in even more, I would suggest searching on Wikipedia for "Category:Truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom" (for the ones that are still around (there aren't that many), but the rest of the manufacturers are listed when searching for "Category:Defunct truck manufacturers of the United Kingdom". 🙂
Hope this helps! ⭐
9:45 Le Perthus Pyramid, France
france and spain border
I was guessing the Waterloo memorial, but that looks different.
looks fake that the busches dont grow upwords.
the waterloo memorial is a cone with a lion on top
Well it's definitely not Dumfries that's for sure 😅
The Lowe Transport ones were an ERF and an Atkinson. the Atkins International one was a Foden. The Roman Diesel was Man trucks built under licence in Romania. American trucks were never popular in Europe but there were small numbers back in the 1970s and 1980s, and even fewer in the 1990s after that they virtually disappeared. In the UK we had Mack, White and Kenworth mainly with the odd International. There were also some American rigid trucks in areas near the airports here, mainly US Fords, GMCs and Internationals belonging to the American and Canadian airlines like Pan-Am, TWA, Air Canada, etc. Also the American forces have always had their US trucks here, I would always see them on the motorways back in the 1980s and 90s. There was a company based close to me in East London in the 70s and they had a GMC bonneted artic, it was a real head turner, and the only GMC artic I ever saw on UK plates.
I love the truck at 4:08, see that it have a ladder to the roof for storing tarpaulins and materials
8:32 this car seems to be a matra bagheera and that's french. 11:19 that's more a 80's truck and for man as far as i know it's not related to mack but in the 90's mack was bought by renault trucks.
The Ford at 8.08 minutes is a model called the Transcontinental. They were rare even when new. Had an advanced ( for the time) cab suspension system.
Some drivers loved it, many complained of sea-sickness.....
The Ford used a cab from a French truck manufacturer, which was also used in the late 80’s by Renault. We had them at my factory, they were great to drive in the yard (private property).
@@iaing9028 "The Ford used a cab from a French truck manufacturer,..." with the name Berliet, who first developed the modern semitrailer cab.
The Truck was the Berliet TR 300 V8.
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Thanks for that information, I knew the cab design was shared by Renault & the earlier Fords from the late 70’s.
It was only recently that I had heard of Berliet, when the cab 1st came out it was ahead of the competition.
Very nice pictures of old trucks! I drove my truck driver license with an old Scania 93M, a small truck but it was an awesome machine. The 10-gear splitter gearbox required some practice to get used to.
1:32 Leyland was a former britsh truck bilder befor Daf bought it. And than the Daf LF is bild there
The Daf 95 was from when Daf took over the running of Leyland trucks, (1987-ish) and were initially marketed in the UK as "Leyland-Daf". As it happens, Paccar, the parent company of Daf, who control the likes of Kenworth and Peterbilt, marketed small Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks in the US using what were originally Leyland cabs!
Still today the US Class 7 CoE are Kenworth and Peterbilt rebadged DAF LF
@@MirkoC407 Yes, the Daf LF cabs were in a way replacements for the Leyland versions, known as the T45 cab.
The hill (pyramid) is a park designed by the Architekt Ricardo Bofill from spain
The twin scanias with mountains in background was my gramdads trucks. Was taking down in Italy mid 90s 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I started Trucking in 86.
It was HELLA hard & very Dirty. Some (most) of the trucks you practically had to wear ear defenders to drive them so there was no point in putting a radio in them.
Viz the scene.....
Monday morning at Silly O'clock you arrive in the Yard. Put your night out gear & maps etc into the cab and then start to rope the load in the dark.
As you throw the rope over you hear "Spludge" as it lands in the thick mud the other side of the trailer.
Now you do a Dolly knot and the mud runs all down your arms & body.
Do this multiple times until the load is properly secured.
Start your journey.
When it gets light and you can see yourself you look like you've just been dragged over the Somme Battlefield.
Now understand you WON'T be coming home all week.
But the Truckers Camaraderie was brilliant and you really did enjoy the job. ESPECIALLY locating the correct "Home Farm" when every farm in Norfolk is called "Home Farm" !!
4:40 the trio of Cavewood Volvo,s looks like their yard in high Wycombe. My dad used to drive all over Europe for themm
My dad had one off the first DAF 2800 you will find it in the DAF museum now.
Did ride a lot with him to south France. cheese to France and whine back to the Netherlands.
Driving thrue the Alps over the mont Ventoux was an adventure. climbing with 25 Metric tons off whine in second gear took a while. with 320 horse.
There was one section when you had to stop. You needed to back out and put the truck sideways to start in the lowest gear called the crawl gear now walking was faster.
Those older trucks kicked ass, dude, I remember watching these older trucks leaving the docks at Liverpool, brings back fond memories, once again, great video, dude, keep up the great videos, high to all the family,chau for now
man i love these videos you do i hope your channel blows up crazy much love from sLOVEnia
We still run alot of this in Africa
113 turbo❤😊 my favorite
Hi. When I first started work as an apprentice telephone engineer in 1967 (yes a long time ago!) we had a fleet of Carrier trucks. It had a cab with two front seats, driver and foreman, and in the rear crew compartment seating for two with a fold down seat for the apprentice, me. The rear was built especially for working with poles and cables. The front end of the van had an upper opening flap to allow up 60 60ft poles. The rear had a drop down tailgate with a removable load-bar for resting the long poles on and they would poke out of the opening flap. Inside the van had a rack of four aluminium ladders, a shelf of wooden pods that the insulators that held wires to pole arms. Plenty of room for pole erection gear, an aluminium par of sheerlegs for pole erecting, special digging tools, called a spoon and rabbeter, 10ft handles one, the spoon was a flat bottomed plate for scooping earth from a deep hole, the rabbeter was like a 19ft log trowel but stronger. Of course regular tools like picks, shovels, sledge hammer, felling axe. Specialist tools like ratchets and tonges, these gripped a copper wire and a key wound the rai=tchet to tension the copper wire. The other oddity was what was called Rods Continuous, a very long approx. 100 yard long flexible steel rod in a round cage, used for rodding, i.e. getting a cable through an underground duct. Every vehicle had what was called a Tundish, like a big Wok, always used by the gang to relieve themselves, meant for bailing water out of manholes. The vehicle had a hefty towing hitch to haul, compressors, pumps, cable trailers or the special trailers for erecting and carrying red phone boxes, our special trailer carried a Go-Cat tracked al terrain vehicle for access to mountain radio transmitters.
Sorry can't find a photo.
Shell plc is a British multinational of Dutch-British origin, one of the six largest state-independent oil companies in the world.
@11:32 That looks like it could be at the port of Dover in Kent UK. That was one of the main ports for crossing over to France. Just as you came out of the port there was a roundabout flying the Union flag 🇬🇧 And the buildings are in keeping of a coastal town.
Once waiting for the ferry there in the early 90s there was an old Polish truck. So under powered it couldn't get up the ramp to board the ferry. Had 3 attempts each time with a longer run up. Must of had a 100 meter run up to get up a 30 meter ramp, still only just made it. Driver done well backing down the ramp at speed keeping it all straight.
The A in a circle is a seddon Atkinson I think. My dad had a brand new one back maybe late 70’s early 80’s
That took me back to travelling in my dads truck in the 70's and early 80's. He started in a Bedford TK, then a Leyland Bison. Last one I can remember was the Leyland Roadtrain. It was tough back then, no driver aids like modern trucks. Thing I remember the most is the noise, especially at higher speeds. 😂 The Michelin man on that trucks bumper, you got them free with new tires. It was popular to have them mounted on the mirrors and lit up at night. 😁
4:50 I'd say it's Northern Italy. The mountains in the background look tall, so quite safe to assume it's the Alps. Also, the trailer in the background says viaggio, which is italian. (Still could be Austria or Switzerland as well)
12:40 That's a UK registration plate. "P" registration goes from august 1996, to July 1997. So that's not as old as you think. Probably, at the earliest, built late-1995 / early-1996.
think the volvo FH12 was originally introduced in 1993 so yeah it must be the newest one in this compilation.
P registration was a 1997 plate (1st August 1996 to 31st July 1997), so as you say the truck is probably from 1985 or 1986 built stock. Although the photo was probably taken later than 1997 as the truck doesn't look brand new, probably more likely to be around 1998. So the Shell sign isn't of an early time but late 90s.
@@martinwebb1681 the FH series first hit the market in 93 so its not a old one. probably a second owner registration
@@MrLarsgren ... 😂Just realised I put the wrong date. Was meant to say "from 1995 or 1996 built stock". Cheers. 👍
4:45 Definitely in the Alps, probably Italy, Switzerland, Austria or France.
Truck trailer with Italian lettering in the background.
Hi. I Like your Videos. I‘m glad to see These Old Trucks. I‘ m a CB Operater since 1980. I talked with a lot of Truckers and sometimes I was on Tour with ‚em. I‘m 100% Scania Fan because One Trucker drove me to School with his 1979 Scania 111 LB.
Later I was Member of the Saurer Club in Switzerland. But I live in South Western Germany. Saurer are tough Trucks. Greetings from CB Station Buffalo,Germany.
Keep on Trucking
Leyland started off making steam powered vehicles.
They were a massive and profitable truck manufacturer and made some iconic trucks with memorable brands.
Then they got involved with the BL merger acquisition, and eventually, the truck division was acquired by DAF.
You can tell the age of older trucks by the number plate in the UK.
Except some carry personalised plates, this is particularly common on coaches for some reason.
aye and now daf own the old leyland factory in the uk
So that it disguises the age of the coaches that they operate in their fleet.
I am a Dutch trucker and at the company i work for they have a collection of their old trucks restored
We used to have an annual rally with just old trucks at Södertörn where I live. Pretty easy for me to photograph them all. I just walked down the street and started taking photos while waving to the drivers as they passed me by. Photo album at Flickr if you are interested.
9:50 apparently thia is the Le Perthus Pyramid and according to wikipedia it was meant as a "celebration of the role of the Pyrenean mountain passes, and especially of the Col du Perthus, in Catalan history."
I started my international trucking career in an old DAF 2800: no airconditioning, no cruise control, not much space, weak power steering, manual 2x4 gears, but all gears had synchromesh and the driver seat had air suspension.
In those days i mostly drove from the port of Rotterdam to Germany and back. Sometimes Belgium, Luxemburg or inside the Netherlands.
I do not remember seeing any US trucks on German roads until the late Nineties. Apparently Mercedes bought or contracted with Peterbilt which enabled European customers to buy a Mercedes chassis with Peterbilt cabin on them, so some did that. They do look really great but do have their shortcomings, especially as drivers will have greater trouble taking them through really tight spots. than with the usual cab-overs.
P.S.: The Mercedes at 11:20 could be an 814 or similar. With Mercedes trucks and transporters, the first digit indicates the weight and the second two a tenth of the horsepower. So an 814 would be "8 tons, 140hp", a 1320 "13 tons, 200hp".
Actually, the 814 is 7.5 tons. At least in Germany, the 7.5 ton class was very widely spread as the old class III driver's license allowed you to drive light motorcycles up to certain stroke volumes, tractors, cars and 7.5 ton trucks with a single or twin axle trailer. The exact data of what you were allowed to drive changed over the years. Until Nov. 10th, 1980, motorcycles up to 125cc were allowed, after that only 50cc/45kph. I got my license in 1989 and am still allowed a 7.5 ton truck with a trailer of 90% of the total weight of the truck pulling, which makes 6.9 tons. Later ones were restricted in trailer weight, I think.) In total, that gets to almost 14 tons and a fifty feet truck-trailer-combo. (Some time in the late Nineties, that was changed with the Europe harmonised classes for driver licenses, the class B replaced III and only allows cars with smaller trailers up to 3.5 tons total weight. 3.5 tons is the magic number, for all vehicles heavier than that are restricted to 80 kph/50 mph in Germany. (Hello Cyberbeast! ☺You no do speedy-speedy here! 😁You too fat! 😜) Thus comes the strange situation that the Mercedes Sprinter (3.5 ton max weight) in the bigger engine versions actually is allowed to go the 200kph it can do. That is a level of speed that most definitely is not safe with that kind of vehicle anymore! I speak from my own experience, I was grateful the Autobahn A1 Cologne-Euskirchen was empty that day when I needed the full width of all lanes to keep that 317 in check after a gust hit us at that speed. Not at all fun!
In the 70s and 80s you could see a lot of British and American trucks on German roads.
95% of them were vehicles from the NATO forces of these countries stationed in the Federal Republic of Germany.
The remaining 5% was goods traffic and removals that were connected to the NATO forces.
In particular here in northern Germany the American transport traffic via the former Carl Schurz Army Barracks in Bremerhaven, which served the US Army as an import port for the Federal Republic and the British freight forwarder Eddie Stobart Limited, which apparently managed the removals of British army personnel.
I can also still remember the supply of NAFFI, the supermarket chain of the British armed forces here in northern Germany.
Peterbilt? I don't think so... Mercedes bought Freightliner in 1981 and Western Star Trucks in 2000.
@@monolith2063 Then it was them. Either way, you did see some Mercedes trucks dressed up as US trucks here.
The truck at 11:20 is not a 7.5t- Truck but a fullsize truck like a 16-ton, called NK (Neue Klasse - new class). It is the predecessor to the blue and yellow one at 2:40 (this one was a NG Neue Generation). The biggest optical difference were the doors: the old trucks had a narrow and high window and a smaller, but wider window, whereas in the later trucks the underside of both windows was a rising line. Of course the engines, gearboxes etc. were much more modern but invisible.
@@65Tedybear Mercedes-Benz calls the truck type at 11:17 "Neue Generation 80 or NG 80".
So this truck was built in 1980 or later.
The designation "Neue Klasse" did not exist.
The successor to the NG 80 was then called "Schwere Klasse or SK" from 1988 on.
I worked in a shipping company/transport company for a while, my boss there was a former truck driver in like the 80s and 90s, and the stories he told... it sounded like it was practically lawless at times.
Like one dude who transported fish to Italy, got drunk in Italy and just picked up a prostitute and taught her how to drive so she could do the last bit to delivery. :P
And there were routes that went from all over Europe to Africa, which took a very long time, there's books written about it.
Mountain picture (two Scanias) look like the boarder area between Austria and Switzerland. Btw, love your G plate from Graz ;) Regards from Vienna
10:20 Mack belonged to RVI, Renault's truck division.
Most of the six and eight cylinder engines of the iconic Renault AE Magnum truck were supplied by Mack.
The Renault AE Magnum 500, 520 and 560 with the 16.4 liter Mack EE-9 V8 engine was the most powerful truck in Europe when it was launched in 1990.
The K100 Aerodyne was used by a few hauliers in the UK..Kenworth had a dealership at Chipping Sodbury Gloustershire...Kenworth also had a dealership in Switzerland ...Friderici Transport who ran a big fleet of KWs to the Middle East aswell as Europe....
Akerson is a british truck with a Big A .The e other truck you mentioned, Mack trucks, was bought out by the French company Renault.Other European trucks worth a mentioning,like OEM, KAMAZ,Russian,TATRA,an Austrian truck and STYRE,i think a Switzerland.Some European cars and trucks were using square headlights since 1960, i have books of European trucks. great video👍
Cool video
The first truck i drove on the road was a scania 112m i wss only 24 back in 2002
It was a beast but was missing 7th gear 😂
The truck was alredy 13 years old but still went like a rocket 😂
8:19 we still have ford trucks in Europe. Just search for Ford F-Max. Its a interesting Truck. In the past, trucks drivers used to drive much longer distances, for example from Europe to the Middle East, Iran, etc.
Yes, but it's a Turkish built product built by Ford Otosan. Truck drivers still drive longer distances from UK and Europe, to North Africa, Central Asia and parts of the Middle East. Also to Russia previous to the current conflict.
@@martinwebb1681the Middle East haulage now isnt half of what it was in the old days. The glory days of TIR and intercontinental haulage. (rather than the majority international and regional haulage we have today)
@@BladeRMC187 ... No because times have changed. But some trucking companies still travel far and wide into parts of the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa.
12:51 the registration is 1997 here in the UK.
The „Bulldog“ you see under the M.A.N logo is actually a lion from the company Büssing. MAN and Büssing merged in the 70ies. But you still find the lion-logo on the grill and the steering wheel. 😉
The vehicle at 10:32 is a Atkinson borderer. usually fitted with a Gardener 180 or 240 engine. The cab was an Ash wooden frame covered in aluminum panels.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seddon_Atkinson
As far as I remember, there was a Foden, too...
"I wish we could hear these, dude" - check out the short video 'Daf 3600 van die' for an amazingly restored and maintained old DAF from the early 80s.
You have a Lowe unit there, a Atkinson UK truck. Also a Foden. There is also earlier a Steyr (Austrian truck)
Volvo AB owns - Renault trucks and Mack
Traton owns - Scania, MAN, Volkswagen trucks, Navistar
Paccar owns - Leyland trucks, Kenworth, Peterbilt, DAF (DAF cars was bought by Volvo back in the days.)
Daimler owns - Mercedes trucks, Freightliner, Western star, Fuso (Mitsubishi trucks), Detroit diesel (Detroit diesel is an Mercedes engine)
Exor owns - IVECO. They also work toghter with the Chinese SAIC and Naveco. Exor is also one of the larger if not the largest owner in Stellantis around 14%of the stocks. (IVECO was a merge from Fiat, Lancia, OM from Italy, Magirus Deutz from Germany and Unic from France.
Ford owns- Ford Otosan (based in Turkey) who owns Ford semi trucks They make their trucks in Turkey, China and Russia.
Tatra trucks is a private company based in the Czech Republic.
Sisu auto owns - Sisu trucks Built in Finland and they use Mercedes engines.
The Asian truck brands I do not have that good knowledge about.
Hino is a subsidiary of Toyota, Isuzu is a listed company and UD trucks are recently part of Isuzu.
Fuso as you mentioned is part of Daimler
Sisu used also rolls royse, Cummins and even Detroit diesels back In the day
Lot of the mountain pictures are taken between France and italy..mont blanc..mont cenis..frejus tunnel..
One German truck manufacturer which didn't appear here is Magirus Deutz. They were acquired by Fiat/Iveco later (in the 1980ies, I think).
They were quite legendary for their fire engines.
Other old German manufacturers were Hanomag, Henschel, Büssing, Faun and Krupp.
And the Ron Tailford one was too. That was his original colours before the white with red and blue stripes
3:11 my dad drove a 143m 450 for McCulla back in the day
In the 70’s, 80’s and part of the 90’s Mercedes used to be very high on the list of reliable trucks in europe. Their twin turbo V8 engines were famous for reliability and low end torque. They were also early in the game with semi-automated transmissions, and ABS brakes were fitted as standard from the mid 80’s. A lot of truck manufacturers in europe used to offer V8 engines, but only Scania use them today. Most had to ditch the V8’s due to emissions.
10:12 Mack was owend by Renault form 1979 (Chrysler was interested to buy them already in 60th) onwards. Nowadays Mack is owend by Volvo
So Mack and M.A.N (abbreviation for Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg) never had anything to do with each other.
But M.A.N once owned the US Brand Western Star for a short Time.
Also the Logos a diffrent. Mack got a Bulldog and the Animal on the M.A.N Trucks is a Lion. They got that Lion from there German Competitor Büssing, when they bought them in 1971.
Today M.A.N is also no longer its own independent Brand.
They now belong to Volkswagen. Same with Scania.
Nearly all US Trucks in Europe are imported. After WWII no US Companys was (for whatever reason) really interested in selling Trucks here in Europe.
Which is kinda Funny when you think about, that Chevrolet start selling Trucks Europe with big effort (for its time) in 1926.
6:00 yes, back in the 70s and 80s some us trucks were sold in europe, mainly Mack and Kenworth cabovers. There was a swiss company, Friederici, that ran a whole fleet of Kenworth K100 and K100E back than, and a few T600 conventionals. And for some reason Kenworth managed to sell a bunch of T800s as dump trucks in the 90s in europe.
But they never got a proper foothold in the european marked, Kenworth still runs a dealership in Strassourg, France, but they sell mainly oldschool conventionals, W900, as show trucks today, and don´t compete in the normal truck market with the domestic brands.
The only one may be Ford, still a us brand but they adapt very heavily to local markets. They released a brand new cabover truck model in recent years, i think it´s made somwhere in Turkey, and has kind of a reputation as a barebone cheap truck.
That orange and white gerry Oreilly scania 143..my father drove it a few times,,went to the south of france with hanging meat with him
Foden and ERF trucks were built in Sandbach, Cheshire. Seddon Atkinson were built at Woodstock Factory in Oldham. Atkinson also built bin wagons for the local were I lived.
when i started working i drove a few of these classics . driving trucks was very different in those days . for starters NO gps , no smartphone , etc
daf 95 was my first truck i drove for international transport
ford trucks was absent for a long time but they are back
8:30, the car next to the truck looks like a talbot-Matra Murena ! It’s a French sports car from the 70’s!
@ 8:50 that car looks like a 3 seater Matra-Simca Bagheera, a nice little "poorman sportcar "
the " ROMAN" is a old MAN F7 / F8 , M A N, as a subsidiary of VW, has many different "model names" for the vehicles
ROMAN for Romania, ÖAF for Austria and so on
to distinguish a "MERC" how OLD it is, look at the wheel arches and the radiator grille "Plastic" is 80s, metal is 70s
with variations that can be described as an "upgrade"... very old Mercedes had a small flap with the logo on it, underneath was the radiator filler neck and had "flaps for fresh air in the doors, the newer ones didn't have that anymore... I drove Mercedes myself for almost 20 years and repaired them during my apprenticeship
MAN only became owned by VW recently. They had nothing to do with them in the 80s and 90s. The Roman Diesel truck isn't a rebadged MAN, but a licence built one from Romania. Same story with ÖAF trucks.
The ERF is a British truck as is the one with the big A in a circle. That is an Atkinson. Atkinson were also popular in Australia. Their later cabs were fibreglass and they ran American drivetrains, such as the old 2 stroke Detroit Diesel 8V71 or 6V92 mated to Eaton Fuller gearboxes.
For American trucks in Europe, in the 70's, Dodge bought the Spanish manufacturer Barreiros, and introduced Dodge trucks under the Barreros brand.
Incidentally Barreiros made the Dodge Dart and 3700 for the Spanish market, including a Dodge Dart Diesel (mostly for taxis).
Drove what we call HGV for over 35 yrs. Most of the old British truck brands had dissappeared by the '90's. Mack is in with Volvo. I can even remeber truck cabs being built in wood!
13:00 Shell started using that particular logo in 1971
4:46 i think it is in south tyrol, italy, 9:34 must be La Jonquera, spanish border^^
The old M.A.N. and also some new have the Lion in the front as a reminder of Büssing trucks founded in 1908 at Braunschweig, Lower Saxony , a city that was founded by Henry the Lion, the founder of the house of welfs.
Heinrich Büssing at the age of 60! Years switched from railway engineering to automotive transport trucks, his double decker bus from 1910 was delivered to London copied there and became standard transportation device.
No problem for him his company was already struggling to deliver enough double deckers to Berlin and help Austria to produce at Austro-Daimler for Vienna…
Büssing factory at Braunschweig stopped production at 1972, but the licenses and technology was used on by MAN for another 2 decades..
MAN forms today together with Scania trucks the truck division of Volkswagen..
A Piech coup off course..
isn't the lion the badge of M.A.N.? Never noticed that it's not on all of them
Foden at 11:53, it's a British, they made some great trucks, there was also a Seddon Atkinson at 10:32.
DAF started out using leyland engines in the 50's. come the 90's leyland was on the ropes due to illadvised bureaucracy and were eventually bought by daf. UK daf's for a time were badged Leyland daf. Since 2000 daf became part of the paccar group.
@3:46 is a ford transcontinental (probably made in Belgium).
If it says fiat it's likely pre 75, when they became IVECO (industria VEhicle COrporation)
A few US COEs were used in europe, but were personal choice. A few were kept as show pieces.
Ford trucks in europe got taken over by iveco.
@10:30 is an atkinson from the UK. They joind with seddon before iveco took them over.
Roman trucks are romanian. They use MAN cabas and running gear.
11:51 is a foden. It's british. It's founder was edwin foden who started out making steam wagens. His son Edwin Richard Foden would leave the firm eventually and start ERF. Foden eventually ended up under the control of MAN while ERF is part of the Paccar group.
You didn't recognize the iconic austrian truck STEYR at 7:06😮
Hi man, really enjoy your work. Look for the song The Mighty 143. Awesome song!!!!
Scania is pronounced Scan-ee
Probably the best trucks of the 60s, 70s and perhaps 80s were the Spanish ones, Iveco, Pegaso and Ebro. Tough, reliable and simple.
Hi Ian, that are allmost all England or Ierland trucks, most of them driving to the south or south east (balkan) and yes over the Alps. but do look good to them, they all drive RHD trucks as you can see on the wipers ;-) but some of them are LHD drivers, that tells that those truck spend the most of there time on the other side of the channel and not in England or so :D
Very cool Video, you should look for Volvo F16 videos, there are some very good ones of Company Zurkirchen
MACK is with the Volvo group, which include Renault Trucks as well and some defence companies.
7:06 that looks like an Austrian Steyr truck from 2nd half of the Seventies . The same company that produced the Pinzgauer ATV for Austrian Army and was overtaken into Magna Group. I guess Magna Steyr still exists as a supplier, they produced Chrysler family vans between 1994 and 2000? In Austria.
That Steyr is from the 90's.
my dad drove scanias all his life but he also drove a dodge with renault engine
Opening shot is a lorry belonging to Carna transport, an Irish company.P
The Volvo's you mentioned are from the early 70's and also 60ties......you just saw the f89, its has a big gril...the f88 had a smaller one....in 1976 Volvo introduced the F10 and F12
A little bit of info for you..... 1986. IVECO Ford Truck Ltd, a joint venture (and de facto merger) in which IVECO S.p.A. holds a 52% share with Ford's truck business in Europe, was established.
11:42 This is a Romanian truck from the Eastern Bloc, Warsaw Pact countries, in Great Britain.
RO country code for Romania on the front bumper.
ROMAN Diesel manufactured MAN trucks in Romania under license since 1969.
8:30 I'm not 100% sure. But that car next to the Berliet looks like a Simca Matra Bagheera. (Or Matra Simca)
As far as I know DAF was not just a truck producer, but cars as well, and even more they made first front wheel drive in 1910s
DAF passenger cars also had a continuously variable automatic transmission.
The cars could drive forwards and backwards at the same speed.
In 1975, Volvo took over the passenger car division of DAF.
DAF started out as a Trailer company Van Doornes Aanhanger Fabriek. Then they started to make trucks. in the 1950s the first passenger car was made the 600. I think you are mixing up Daf and Spijker - Spyker who made the first four wheel drive car.
Did you know about the brand "Saurer"?
It was a swiss Truck, they still drive to this date, some have couple million miles on them.
First vehicle on the streets with a Turbo!
The Turbo also is a swiss invention. :D
Tell me more ?
In the 70s and 80s you could see a US brand truck in Europe sometimes, I think they were privately imported as there was no dealer network for them in Europe. Mack was the most common brand, but most imports predated the conglomerate of Renault/Volvo/Mack, so not with MAN as you thought. DAF is part of the Paccar group which also owns Peterbilt and Kenworth. MAN belongs to the Traton group which also owns Scania, Navistar (IHC) and VW trucks and busses of Brazil.
Ford was once a relative common brand, but they have withdrawn from the heavy truck market in Europe.
Other rarities I noticed was a Berliet, a French company absorbed into the renault/PSA group and since 1980 all trucks would be sold under the Renault brand.
Fiat was absorbed into the Iveco group, together with Lancia special vehicles and OM, both of Italy, Unic of France and Magirus/Deutz of Germany.
Also notice that the really old pictures from the early 70s show mostly tandem axle trailers like what's common in the US, but then a switch to mostly three axle trailers with ultra wide single tyres placed more towards the center happened, this enabled a different weight distribution and the further use of 4x2 tractors with higher gross weights, exception was the UK with lower allowed axle loadings which made a tag axle necessary, often lifting so that they could drive without this axle on the road surface when on the continent for better traction and fuel efficiency and less tyre wear.
3:44 Yes, that was a Ford.
Seems like they're trying to get involved with trucks again in Europe as well. I saw a new truck a while back with a Ford badge, and came across an article a bit more recently stating they're back in the trucking industry. Not sure who they'd be working with though, or if they're doing it on their own.
5:35 Yup, that's a Kenny. In town where I used to work, you can still spot a W900 in the wild sometimes. Once had him behind me. That thing is intimidating with the tombstone grill.
My dad even thinks he knows where that one is usually kept.
Ford produced heavy trucks and semis in Brazil until 2019. The boxy 1980s style Ford Cargo sold in Europe and the USA was produced until 2010 around here, after that we had the new generation Cargo which was exclusive for Brazil and Turkey I think
A lot of our older daf trucks sported the cummins 12 valve , an awesome cheap engine to slap in a land rover , could buy the trucks for under a grand a couple of years back .
Sure, a 1200kg Cummins N14 in a Landrover 😂😂😂
@@Sjanzowell considering in the little 45 they used 6bt at one time yes it will fit in a landrover many people have done it
@@gregshearer423 true, but none such trucks were in this video.
55 and 65 also used the ISB6.7 early Daf 65 still had the Daf 620 because the 6BTA wasnt beefy enough to put out 240hp all day long, its heads cracked.
The old Euro trucks look great nowadays. Still see a few on the roads in Australia.
Leyland DAF was a cooperation between DAF(Netherlands) and Leyland(UK), DAF eventually took over Leyland Trucks and now the RHD trucks are made in the Leyland factory
13:31 this is an old Mercedes before the 1639 series in 1973 appeared, so maybe between 1967 and 1972 produced..
There was no Mercedes-Benz 1639 series, the successor to the model pictured from 1973 onwards was the "New Generation or NG".
The vehicle pictured is the "Heavy Cabover Truck or LP/LPS", in production from 1963-1973.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Schwerer_Frontlenker
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_LP-series_(cubic)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_NG
I think I saw somewhere that International trucks in the USA are using Scania running gear in some of their models.
Shell have hade the same logo since I was a kid back in the early 60’s.
As I said in a comment to your video of the vintage Leyland bus, the Leyland brand gradually came into the BLMC stable, through a long process of mergers & purchases. It was pretty much just a name from history. Other specific truck brand names were the likes of Foden, ERF, & Albion. Daf was a Dutch car manufacturer. I don't know how the name came to be part of the stable.
The vans & trucks were hived off into a separate division, under the Leyland-Daf brand. Also LDV for the smaller vans. The 'Leyland' tag sort of got dropped, and the trucks bore the simple 'DAF' brand.
Iveco is basically the name for Ford trucks nowadays.
I passed my Class 1 test in an ERF [ English Road Freight, I believe ]. I got to drive most makes over a few years. My all time favourite was the DAF XF of the early 2000s, simply because they were the easiest & most comforting /reassuring to drive, even 16 spd manual.
Mack ist part of Volvo Group, so not connected to MAN.
MAN actually belongs to Volkswagen Group, as does Scania actually. Or more precisely to Traton, which is still VW owned, but they gave it a new name and it's a listed company on the stock exchange in it's own right.
Freightliner and Western Star trucks from the US for example actually belong to Mercedes (Daimler Trucks), as does Mitsubishi trucks.
DAF on the other hand belongs to US company Paccar (Peterbilt, Kenworth).
Renault Trucks belong to Volvo (Volvo cars however DO NOT belong to Volvo, they are owned by Geely from China).
Ford Trucks were taken over by Iveco and the Ford brand discontinued.
Getting tricky to follow all these takeovers and mergers 😀
yeah that is now.... but in those day's not, think scania was working with Mack in the 70 or 80's, they made the V8.
It would be nice for you to be able to attend Le Mans truck race (France) in september where there’s a race of trucks and exposition of other regular trucks. It would be fun for you
In Sweden is Peterbuilts and Kenworth trucks pretty common these days ! but american big rigs was very unusual earlier !
For your knowledge, MAN belongs to the Volkswagen group who owns also SCANIA .
DAF belongs to Paccar who owns Kenworth and Peterbilt.
Volvo trucks owns Renault trucks who owns MACK
And IVECO is indirectly own by FIAT via the CNi (CASE New Holland) holding
Fiat trucks later became Iveco..... Who also had a partnership with Ford in the 80s.
I love Scania's myself, but I love the old foden's, Seddon Atkinson's, boxy DAF's & ERF's and the FH10 Volvo's.
Interestingly Foden and ERF used rebranded DAF cabs - but I loved them as individuals.
It was a great time to be an 80's kid growing up with these awesome trucks all around.