Team by Dragonite4242 - pokepast.es/5ab9953742aae391 Cover of "Verdanturf Town" by V-Ron Media - ruclips.net/video/ajXtp1fwAuU/видео.html Smogon Thread - www.smogon.com/forums/threads/revamped-gen-5-keldeo-mamoswine-sand-peaked-2047-4-82-9-gxe.3733768/ Jim's Mugs - jimothycool.com/
@@twomew4u a rapper who Jim previously mixed into his end credit song (the "money got different" bits). He was recently charged with kidnapping a woman and keeping her in his house for five years
I've been using Keldeo and Latios in SV OU and they are genuinely the most fun thing to play ever! Nothing short of defensive Gholdengo can switch in to Latios and Vacuum Wave Keldeo always catches opposing Meowscaradas off guard.
I love the idea of looking back at older generations and reusing those ideas. This is why I think that False Swipe Gaming is such a good channel with their detailed histories on the competitive use of pokemon. They have given me many ideas that I have used before to varying successes. I think there is to gain from recycling previous sets. Why fix something that isn't necessarily broken. Very epic video and very impressive from Dragonite
He's so good at choosing what to include, truly feels like the whole video has equal value and it ends when he's said what needs said on the topic. Underrated
There is something I think a lot of people forget when it comes to how the tiering system works. (Not accusing you, just a thought brought up by the video) There are plenty of lower tier pokemon that are very good even at the OU power level... but that isn't what defines a mon's tiering status. Usage statistics are. Despite the fact that the usage based tiering system will USUALLY have pokemon placed in the highest tier that they can preform in, that isn't always the case. The best example in my opinion is Gastrodon. It has almost exclusivly been a UU - RU ranked pokemon, but has had a very legitimate OU niche in every single generation. Or a more fun example, Zoroark(s); the original has excelent synergy with gengar as a disguise, and hisuian's immunities are very easy to make use of. Do they hit the hardest? No. The fastest? No. But if you know how to bluff it then you can easily blast games wide open. Hell this generation the og Zoroark got encore, which is incredible for dealing with set up mons that think they got in against a passive wall.
I'm suprised you never mentioned Quagsire, since it perfectly represents what you're saying. It's consistently been one of the best Unaware users of the older gens. But in all seriousness, this is something I think people forget and it's always nice to remind them.
I remember when Tangrowth was RU in gen 6 and it suddenly shot up in usage after it was featured on a tournament team and ppl realized how good it was so it just kept ending up in OU from then on. 100/125 physical bulk with Regen+ decent offensive stats on both sides and a really wide movepool for a grass type (both offensively and support moves) are great. Even its base 50 Spdef isn't unusable since you can patch it up with an AV so it can take a hit from just about everything. Grass seems like bad defensive typing on paper but it helps take on Ground, Water, and Electric types which are all notoriously hard to switch into. I feel like at least in gen 6 and 7, RU had some hidden gems that had better viability in OU than UU. Rhypherior, Cofagrigus, Escavalier, Mega-Camerupt, etc.
Tried and true strategy can still work wonders. I remember when I hadn't played OU for a while and I felt like being devious due to some bans I was mad about at the time, I brought back Gen6 Flynite in Gen 9 and I caught some poor souls in blind confusion. Obviously that wasn't as thoroughly examined as much as this, more like a funny anecdote, but my point is that this is an inspiration to many who teambuild I'm sure. Your experience still means something even with power creep if you want to play Gen 9
Its somewhat common for lower tiered wallbreakers to be viable in OU. Mamo is a great example. The reason they don't get alot of usage is cause there's just so many pokemon that can play the role of wallbreaker. Mamo has a particularly nice set of qualities that keeps it relevant. Ice/ground stab, ice shard prio, knock off. Also its an ice type thats not completely defensively crippled by its typing due to thick fat and being neutral to stealth rock.
On a funny note, Tyranitar was used more on the ladder January than Garchomp. Turns out, being Excadrill's Sand bitch worked pretty well to it's benefit
@@ahkwaheart the dude he was using the song from got in hot water for something serious. It might have been some kind of kidnapping, don't fully remember. But it was mentioned on a community tab post
This is a competitive team from gen 5 OU, and this is a competitive team from gen 9 OU. You'll notice folks that the teams are exactly the same. But that's not big deal of course, we all know that we can use pokemon from old generations in new games.
half of that team were on my first ever competitive ou team, and the other half didn't exist in gen 4 so it is good to see my three sand staples still going strong
Jim brah i was about to comment asking if u knew about the viper situation and then i skipped to the outro music and it was already changed 😭😭 also jfc its so obnxiously fken hot in sydney rn. im just taking cold showers raw every 15 minutes cuz they feel awesome
I haven't played since gen 6 but I watch quite a bit of new competitive singles over the past year or so. I was wondering, why does Life Orb seem so much rarer now than it was back then? I feel like 3+ pokemon on every team would have LO and now you see stuff like expert belt, new boots even on SR-neutral pokemon, leftovers on offensive threats etc. just seems kinda weird to me lol.
It's easier than ever to chip down the opponent while keeping your own mons healthy: 1.) Back in gen 6, we didn't have a hazard stacking metagame like we do now so it was easier to run LO when spikes were a lot more rare. 2.) We now have Terastalization which can be used defensively to get extra LO chip or flip a match up completely. 3.) there was no Boots+Regen spam stalling your progress while you get chipped down. 4.) There's not as much reliance on mixed attacking now versus just clicking a Banded or Specs move; resists don't matter as much if your moves and attacking stats are strong enough. 5.) Some mons just have better items now like all of the Paradox mons getting booster energy. 6.) Priority is everywhere and you don't want to suddenly be in range of an E-speed or Sucker punch bc of LO recoil. 7.) Longevity + Stat boosting is often better than just attacking in this meta, especially for something you want to be a wincon. For example, LO Weavile can dent teams pretty well as it slowly KOs itself with LO and hazards but Boots+SD Weavile is often more likely to sweep and end the game, esp with the aforementioned hazard support vs the opponent; this point is more role-dependent tbf but I still think it contributes to the lack of LO mons.
I really like Terra grass mamoswine resist rock, grass, water neutral from fighting and steel combo it with trailblaze to get that extra speed ideally you wouldn't Tera always
Not sure if that team is so good. It has 3 Ground Types and Tyrannitar. Its wicketly weak to Wather, and as such Rain. I guess Amongus, and to some extend Keldeo help out, but does Amongus work well in Sand?
What’s a good sub for keldeo I’m doing a 1v1 tourney with my group of friends and no legendarys so I was wondering if there was anything else I could use
I wonder how long will it take for more people to realize how Scizor's Bullet Punch is way too op for gen9ou, currently have him on my team and I don't have much problems
Tried the team, first game. Opponent loads up Volcarona. I see 0 checks 0 answers. Probably still a good team and something to play around but it looked grim right away.
I never understand mixed atackers, why would i use -def nature? My pkm will die quickly, even worse in tytar since it is 4x weak to fight and 2x ground.
Just from seeing the team. I'm guessing it's a mainly sand team which is already good with the sandstorm giving them chip on opponent and some spec res while having good type coverage with fly dark steel and ice. Them a stall Mon in amongus plus the sword horse for stab through a for that somehow gets set up.
Those stat spreads are not good. I'll never understand a random +20 EV's in certain stats. Splitting a maxed spread like 252, 126, 126 is much, MUCH better.
Team by Dragonite4242 - pokepast.es/5ab9953742aae391
Cover of "Verdanturf Town" by V-Ron Media - ruclips.net/video/ajXtp1fwAuU/видео.html
Smogon Thread - www.smogon.com/forums/threads/revamped-gen-5-keldeo-mamoswine-sand-peaked-2047-4-82-9-gxe.3733768/
Jim's Mugs - jimothycool.com/
Hey, just wanted to let you know you still have v*per🤮 credited in the description.
@@TheElderSkrotum woops thanks
@@jimothycool hey i was thinking if u could run a defensive regigigas set🙏
@@TheElderSkrotumi genuinely don't know who viper is and what he did, can someone explain?
@@twomew4u a rapper who Jim previously mixed into his end credit song (the "money got different" bits). He was recently charged with kidnapping a woman and keeping her in his house for five years
Theres something so satisfying about seeing Ttar in an OU team, feels like everything is right in the world again
Yeah, seeing an enemy ttar feels right
Excadrill my brother.
Hope Ttar is NU next gen yall are annoying with it 😭 been an OU staple since Gen 2 let it die like everything else does
@@wonderfulrose477 but have you considered.. ttar?
hope you become NU next gen@@wonderfulrose477
*Seeing a Tyranitar on an OU team again.*
"You're as beautiful as the day I lost you."
"Ammongus could not use spore in gen 5, and now it can in gen 9"
Well that certaintly aged well
It’s honestly beautiful how even in this power crept metagame, Keldeo, Ttar, Mamo, Drill, Torn, and Latios manage to still find a place in SV OU.
The cream always rises to the top
I've been using Keldeo and Latios in SV OU and they are genuinely the most fun thing to play ever! Nothing short of defensive Gholdengo can switch in to Latios and Vacuum Wave Keldeo always catches opposing Meowscaradas off guard.
but not lando-t
@@ogmechsftw Lando-t isn't even hard to deal with at the moment, it's just a colossal pain in the neck.
@@goobingtonsI have never heard this before but I love it lol.
I love the idea of looking back at older generations and reusing those ideas. This is why I think that False Swipe Gaming is such a good channel with their detailed histories on the competitive use of pokemon. They have given me many ideas that I have used before to varying successes. I think there is to gain from recycling previous sets. Why fix something that isn't necessarily broken.
Very epic video and very impressive from Dragonite
The writing on this video is spectacular. Not a wasted breath, and quite informative.
Jimothy Cool indeed.
He's so good at choosing what to include, truly feels like the whole video has equal value and it ends when he's said what needs said on the topic. Underrated
There is something I think a lot of people forget when it comes to how the tiering system works. (Not accusing you, just a thought brought up by the video)
There are plenty of lower tier pokemon that are very good even at the OU power level... but that isn't what defines a mon's tiering status. Usage statistics are. Despite the fact that the usage based tiering system will USUALLY have pokemon placed in the highest tier that they can preform in, that isn't always the case.
The best example in my opinion is Gastrodon. It has almost exclusivly been a UU - RU ranked pokemon, but has had a very legitimate OU niche in every single generation.
Or a more fun example, Zoroark(s); the original has excelent synergy with gengar as a disguise, and hisuian's immunities are very easy to make use of. Do they hit the hardest? No. The fastest? No. But if you know how to bluff it then you can easily blast games wide open. Hell this generation the og Zoroark got encore, which is incredible for dealing with set up mons that think they got in against a passive wall.
I'm suprised you never mentioned Quagsire, since it perfectly represents what you're saying. It's consistently been one of the best Unaware users of the older gens. But in all seriousness, this is something I think people forget and it's always nice to remind them.
It’s like how terrakion immediatly went down to PU while he obviously didn’t belong there
It's more about consistency and splashabiliy than anything else.
I remember when Tangrowth was RU in gen 6 and it suddenly shot up in usage after it was featured on a tournament team and ppl realized how good it was so it just kept ending up in OU from then on. 100/125 physical bulk with Regen+ decent offensive stats on both sides and a really wide movepool for a grass type (both offensively and support moves) are great. Even its base 50 Spdef isn't unusable since you can patch it up with an AV so it can take a hit from just about everything. Grass seems like bad defensive typing on paper but it helps take on Ground, Water, and Electric types which are all notoriously hard to switch into.
I feel like at least in gen 6 and 7, RU had some hidden gems that had better viability in OU than UU. Rhypherior, Cofagrigus, Escavalier, Mega-Camerupt, etc.
@@mr.sandman7339Dugtrio is another example of an RU Pokémon becoming OU after players realized Arena Trap is a good ability lol
Tried and true strategy can still work wonders. I remember when I hadn't played OU for a while and I felt like being devious due to some bans I was mad about at the time, I brought back Gen6 Flynite in Gen 9 and I caught some poor souls in blind confusion. Obviously that wasn't as thoroughly examined as much as this, more like a funny anecdote, but my point is that this is an inspiration to many who teambuild I'm sure. Your experience still means something even with power creep if you want to play Gen 9
I think Mamo is actually really underrated as it matches well into a lot of big threats at the moment.
Might be a sleeper hit in general, what with how good snow is now.
Its somewhat common for lower tiered wallbreakers to be viable in OU. Mamo is a great example. The reason they don't get alot of usage is cause there's just so many pokemon that can play the role of wallbreaker.
Mamo has a particularly nice set of qualities that keeps it relevant. Ice/ground stab, ice shard prio, knock off. Also its an ice type thats not completely defensively crippled by its typing due to thick fat and being neutral to stealth rock.
But if you close your eyes...
Does it almost feel like nothing has changed at all?
Tyranitar in OU: *Lord give me one more chance*
waiting for tyranitar to return OU in spite of everything thanks to a mole
On a funny note, Tyranitar was used more on the ladder January than Garchomp. Turns out, being Excadrill's Sand bitch worked pretty well to it's benefit
The power of love and homosexuality
Its the core. Once a team has a solid core and synergies well with each other. It will stand the test of time
The great awareness from Jim to change his outro music. I sincerely hope you don't get too much flak for it existing in your previous videos.
what happened?
@@ahkwaheart the dude he was using the song from got in hot water for something serious. It might have been some kind of kidnapping, don't fully remember. But it was mentioned on a community tab post
@@ahkwaheart the guy who was rapping over the gen III beat (viper) was recently accused of kidnapping of a woman
@Gold_Gamer_100 I scrolled back this far to see why it was changed and thats it?
Like guy is a nightwalker crackhead this is to be expected???
Seeing Jim explain the importance of Amoongus after the Gen 9 sleep ban hurt my soul...
Ttar with a Kevin Garnett quote is so accurate
"Because in gen 5 it can't even use spore, now it can" how funny that with a bit more time, even this is now identical.
This is a competitive team from gen 5 OU, and this is a competitive team from gen 9 OU. You'll notice folks that the teams are exactly the same. But that's not big deal of course, we all know that we can use pokemon from old generations in new games.
What's the big deal? Well,
This Gen 5 team has reached an impressive rating of number 4 on the Gen 9 ladder.
All of these pokemon were OU ranked back in gen 5
all of the pokemon were ranked OU back in Gen 5
all of the pokemon were ranked OU back in Gen 5
What a trip. Just battled someone with this team about 10 minutes ago and stumbled upon this video. Absolutely savage team.
The new outro music is so cute 😍
I wonder if there are any other old OU teams that can work, very cool
I like the new outro music, its a shame you had to change it in the first place but there's not much you can do about that
Wait did something happen with earthbound?
@@mannybot06 The artist who made the sampled rap track in the old outro was arrested for very bad crimes this week.
I gotta say I'm a little sad to not hear Viper at the end of your videos anymore but I understand.
How sad for this team, spore and other sleep just got banned on ladder yesterday.
I’ve been using Ttar as a special wall and it has been surprisingly good. Coming in on raging bolt for example is like nothing
Does the presence of keldeo mean the return of the slug!?????
As the end card shows, I'm a Tyranitar enjoyer. I fully support this video and the glory it brings to the good name of Tyranitar.
half of that team were on my first ever competitive ou team, and the other half didn't exist in gen 4 so it is good to see my three sand staples still going strong
"I got one more in me" is amazing
Jim brah i was about to comment asking if u knew about the viper situation and then i skipped to the outro music and it was already changed 😭😭
also jfc its so obnxiously fken hot in sydney rn. im just taking cold showers raw every 15 minutes cuz they feel awesome
I never realised how oppressive pursuit was till recently. I love the idea of the move hopefully game freak will tweak it one day
Wow, it’s crazy that the team I used for all of Indigo Disk’s DLC is still good. Guess it makes sense since it’s just Unova again.
Great video, I love the outro music!!
RIP the old outro song
Been using this team and absolutely it is insane I hit my peak as well with it
This is insane.
@jimothycool do you you’ll ever talk about how Terapagos is doing in Ubers?
I wanna make sure my turtle boy’s okay.
Me: See's video title. "Oh cool, a team from ADV OU was brought to gen 9"
...
Justice for our favorite T -Rex. ❤️
Just gonna hope megas are one day back so I can pull out my gen 6 bird spam teams back on the menu. Miss that archetype so much.
"powercreep is so insane"
Cant wait to use this on the ladder cuz nostalgia and get the shit kicked out of me
It's actually a decent team lol
When is the handful of dirt eating video coming out
My fav pokemon of all time is gen 6 talon. Its the sole reason why i play gen 6 ou every week
Was amusingly enough amazing on rain and stall teams of all things.
Specs Gale Wings Hurricane or Flame Body bulky.
Then Moltres got brought back.
I haven't played since gen 6 but I watch quite a bit of new competitive singles over the past year or so. I was wondering, why does Life Orb seem so much rarer now than it was back then? I feel like 3+ pokemon on every team would have LO and now you see stuff like expert belt, new boots even on SR-neutral pokemon, leftovers on offensive threats etc. just seems kinda weird to me lol.
It's easier than ever to chip down the opponent while keeping your own mons healthy:
1.) Back in gen 6, we didn't have a hazard stacking metagame like we do now so it was easier to run LO when spikes were a lot more rare.
2.) We now have Terastalization which can be used defensively to get extra LO chip or flip a match up completely.
3.) there was no Boots+Regen spam stalling your progress while you get chipped down.
4.) There's not as much reliance on mixed attacking now versus just clicking a Banded or Specs move; resists don't matter as much if your moves and attacking stats are strong enough.
5.) Some mons just have better items now like all of the Paradox mons getting booster energy.
6.) Priority is everywhere and you don't want to suddenly be in range of an E-speed or Sucker punch bc of LO recoil.
7.) Longevity + Stat boosting is often better than just attacking in this meta, especially for something you want to be a wincon. For example, LO Weavile can dent teams pretty well as it slowly KOs itself with LO and hazards but Boots+SD Weavile is often more likely to sweep and end the game, esp with the aforementioned hazard support vs the opponent; this point is more role-dependent tbf but I still think it contributes to the lack of LO mons.
This team is basically a definition of “don’t fuck with the classics”
Bro truly has one more in him
mom look i'm in a jimothy cool video
Do you think you'll ever cover lower tier gameplay? Not specifically gen 9 just personally I'm a hipster and think weak mons are very cool!
Gsc uu a
ND gen 3 ru have ladders a
Tm. Both are pretty cool
@@CMSonYT actually? Let's go!! I'm going to play some after work 😃
i currently run slaking, araquanid, excadrill, dragonite, tyranitar, and swampert in ou. basically nothing new lol
it's so sad that it was not playable in gen 8 just because gliscor was not available
Crazy
i played it back then and will use it again :)))) it was perfect at the time
Me when they say powercreep is real
I mean gen 5 was THE powercreep gen before gen 9 so if there's any old gen's team able to scrap with the new guys on the block it would be gen 5
Gen 5 and gen 9 are the most broken metal I've ever seen.
I encountered this team on ladder once. Pretty solid, but nothing groundbreaking
Jimmy should do a video about when the Gen would look like without knock off. That move feels so over-centralizing.
I really like Terra grass mamoswine resist rock, grass, water neutral from fighting and steel combo it with trailblaze to get that extra speed ideally you wouldn't Tera always
Trailblaze also gets boosted to 60BP. Really cool honestly
It's actually neutral to rock still. Grass doesn't resist rock.
@@djdrizzy9139 thanks for the correction
Swap out Scizor and Alakazam for the pony and shroom and that’s legit been my mainstay team for several gens
this is a competitive team from gen 5 OU, and this is a competitive team from gen 9 OU
Nice job changing your outro music in light of what has happened
Not sure if that team is so good. It has 3 Ground Types and Tyrannitar. Its wicketly weak to Wather, and as such Rain. I guess Amongus, and to some extend Keldeo help out, but does Amongus work well in Sand?
you dont need to worry about rain teams, sand stream counters it instantly
@@viviolet7 if you winn the weather war.
I’m not sure anymore but before the sleep ban in gen 5 i’m pretty sure amoonguss was OU, now it is RU
Im seeing this team every where lol
What’s a good sub for keldeo I’m doing a 1v1 tourney with my group of friends and no legendarys so I was wondering if there was anything else I could use
To anyone wondering why the outro music is different
Take a read of the comments below the pinned comment
This is a team from gen 5 ou
Interesting that 4 pokemon on this team are weak to water yet its viable.
I cringed seeing the overlapping weaknesses, but I'm sure it kicks
IS THE MONEY NO LONGER DIFFERENT????
THE MONEY GOT DIFFERENT
I wonder how long will it take for more people to realize how Scizor's Bullet Punch is way too op for gen9ou, currently have him on my team and I don't have much problems
Ttar excadrill combo stay winning
Jimmothy Cool will never be the same without that outro, but I get why you’d wanna not support Viper
Tried the team, first game. Opponent loads up Volcarona. I see 0 checks 0 answers. Probably still a good team and something to play around but it looked grim right away.
How does this team handle something like Walking Wake?
run ttar with av and switch the weather on him
any thread on the old gen 5 team? pretty please :)
I never understand mixed atackers, why would i use -def nature? My pkm will die quickly, even worse in tytar since it is 4x weak to fight and 2x ground.
Just don't switch into Physical attackers
You weren't taking that physical fighting move with ttar anyway. At least with -def you keep your sand Spdef boost.
spot the difference
Oh dam, don't sleep on old teams ig
Why'd the outro music change?
Just from seeing the team. I'm guessing it's a mainly sand team which is already good with the sandstorm giving them chip on opponent and some spec res while having good type coverage with fly dark steel and ice. Them a stall Mon in amongus plus the sword horse for stab through a for that somehow gets set up.
no more viper in the outro? sad but understandable wish he didnt do what he did
this team is older than my brother lol
Unfortunately Ttar is complete ass in UU, and only rose back due to low ladder spamming it
MR SWINE IS STILL GOOD
I’m honestly shocked. I don’t see how this team survives Dragapult, Latios, or Dondozo.
It does'nt as the creator posted in Smogon Forum
@@tostaxll1793 So it's crazy it made it to top 5.
@@danielsmith5032 says a lot about skill level of this gens player
Tyranitar :)
water bug and ice bug are the only resists, plus frost
4 water weaknesses though.
If team good team good
Is this insane?
Beans
Make Tyranitar Great Again
tfw no more viper
Who is that/what did they do?
I GOT ONE MORE IN ME
Those stat spreads are not good. I'll never understand a random +20 EV's in certain stats.
Splitting a maxed spread like 252, 126, 126 is much, MUCH better.
what’s the song at 4:58? It seems really familiar
It's Snowbelle City from X and Y