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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
  • "Look For The Light"
    We can't believe it's over... 💔
    Discussion videos are on Patreon.
    There was something SO sinister about this last episode. It left us very confused about Joel... but we are really happy that Ellie is okay! Regardless, this was an S tier show from start to finish, just perfection.
    Thank you so so much for being here, it genuinely is mind blowing to us but we have been having such a blast! You all are making this experience 1000 times better!! We hope you stick around and enjoy more shows/movies with us and please leave us suggestions in the comments!
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Комментарии • 669

  • @HayloAndKiss
    @HayloAndKiss  Год назад +151

    A few people are asking about a post episode discussion. Lengthy discussion outro's tend to hurt RUclips analytics and don't help with the algorithm. This is why we keep our thoughts/discussions on Patreon. Link is in the description if anyone REALLY wants to hear us ramble about this great show. We do appreciate that you want to hear more from us! 💕
    -Haylo & Kiss

    • @isboss8357
      @isboss8357 Год назад +2

      Thanks girls! You're awesome!

    • @dereknolin5986
      @dereknolin5986 Год назад +15

      And once again Almighty Algorithm rules all . . .

    • @KevinCSmith-ue8ck
      @KevinCSmith-ue8ck Год назад +2

      Well, there’s my excuse to afford the Patreon…

    • @MrPicklerwoof
      @MrPicklerwoof Год назад +23

      That's interesting - all other reaction videos I see include some chat afterwards.

    • @thefourty-yearoldgamer8289
      @thefourty-yearoldgamer8289 Год назад

      I look forward to discussing the game! :D

  • @Precaricat
    @Precaricat Год назад +562

    The tragedy of it all is that Ellie wasn't asked because Marlene couldn't risk the chance that she'd say no and Joel couldn't risk the chance that she'd say yes.

    • @MrPicklerwoof
      @MrPicklerwoof Год назад +28

      When Joel initiated the rescue attempt I don't believe he was even thinking of what Ellie might have chosen. All he knew was she was about to be murdered and hadn't been given any choice at all. So to begin with at least, he's morally in the right I think.
      And by the time he was standing in front of Marlene, the surgeon was already dead along with most of the Fireflies. I think he'd gone beyond the point of no return. It's hard to say how much of his decision to kill Marlene was him simply not being able to lose a 2nd daughter versus him actually weighing up objectively whether the Fireflies were even capable of distributing a cure.
      Meaning giving Ellie up would depend on Joel having absolute faith in the people doing it, which clearly wasn't the case with the Fireflies, who came across as incompetent. So in that sense, there is an argument that Joel does actually feel it's for the best regardless of how he personally feels about Ellie. It's like a double reason to kill Marlene to stop her hunting Ellie.

    • @TomTomson81
      @TomTomson81 Год назад +56

      @@MrPicklerwoof This is simply not true. Joel was just as convinced as Marlene that Ellie would bring the cure. He was convinced of it at the campfire and here in the hospital as well. Marlene was just supposed to "find someone else". Those were his only words to this topic. If it had been up to him, another child could have been killed.
      No one in the series has ever doubted that it is possible to make the cure. People like to invent new storylines to somehow justify Joel's actions.

    • @Tantalus010
      @Tantalus010 Год назад +13

      @@MrPicklerwoof No part of what Joel did here was rational. This was all sheer panic induced by parental love.

    • @LWT1331
      @LWT1331 Год назад +3

      @@Tantalus010 Isn't it rational to preserve one's own sanity? That would probably have gone down the drain if he had decided to rescue her.

    • @TrashPandaActual
      @TrashPandaActual Год назад +20

      ​@@Tantalus010I'm a father of a daughter, and I think what Joel did was rational. Ellie wasn't given a choice. Joel wasn't about to lose someone he'd come to think of as a daughter. Any grown man worth his salt would have done, or at least attempted, the same thing. It is completely rational to use anything available within your skillset to inflict brutal violence on anyone who harms or threatens to harm someone you love. The only thing he did I disagree with is lying to Ellie about it. I'd rather the person I care about hate me because I was honest than hate me because I lied.

  • @lucassoutodeoliveira5123
    @lucassoutodeoliveira5123 Год назад +784

    ``she kind sounds like ellie`` BECAUSE SHE IS ELLIE 😭

    • @ozzynator456
      @ozzynator456 Год назад +62

      Yup! The game's main characters all make an appearance in the show, except Tess (I think) because she recently died due to cancer unfortunately.
      Ellie's mom is Ellie
      David's right-hand man from episode 8 is Joel
      Kathleen's right-hand man from episode 4 and 5 is Tommy

    • @cristrivino7820
      @cristrivino7820 Год назад +12

      I was coming to put this commentary hahahahaha SHE IS ELLIE FUCKING WILLIAMS AKA ELLIE FROM THE GAMES. That's why she sounds like Ellie because she has being Ellie for ten years now 😂❤

    • @genericwhiteguy2910
      @genericwhiteguy2910 Год назад +22

      Credit to how good casting for show Ellie was lol. The two actors both look and sound alike.

    • @robertfishburn8545
      @robertfishburn8545 Год назад +21

      ​@@ozzynator456Marlene is also played by her actual VA from the game

    • @stace3000
      @stace3000 Год назад +25

      And Laura Bailey who voices Abby in TLoU PtII was one of the nurses in the operating room.
      Which...is kinda messed up in its own unique way.

  • @emiliomorales8507
    @emiliomorales8507 Год назад +331

    The lady who play Ellie's mother Anna, her name is Ashley Johnson. She's the voice actress and motion capture for Ellie in the video games. That's why they sound alike.
    In other words, Ellie just gave birth to herself.

    • @Southernlion98
      @Southernlion98 Год назад +20

      And James in the last episode is played by Troy Baker, who plays Joel in the game too! I had to laugh when I realised that Ellie killed Joel, there.😄

    • @kieronroberts4977
      @kieronroberts4977 Год назад

      Everyone knows this already

    • @emanymton713
      @emanymton713 Год назад +19

      @@kieronroberts4977these reactors obviously didn’t…

    • @testpattern23
      @testpattern23 Год назад +6

      and it's amazing how much they look alike

    • @watsonsd1
      @watsonsd1 Год назад +4

      Ashley gave birth to her figuratively and then later, literally. On the podcast, she was asked what it meant to her to do that, and she started to answer, and stopped. Started to answer, then said, "Hold on." She tried to talk about it, but was too emotional to make a sound. Eventually, Troy Baker and Neil Druckman stepped in and answered for her.

  • @derekweiland1857
    @derekweiland1857 Год назад +328

    Joel wasn't ready for Sarah. He's been preparing 20 years for this moment. "And God help any motherfucker who gets in your way".

    • @jevgenkova
      @jevgenkova Год назад

      I guess God was busy that day. Cuz all of those mother-f-ers are dead. lol

    • @19dario73
      @19dario73 Год назад +2

      Bill docet.

  • @revolutionaryspectre9023
    @revolutionaryspectre9023 Год назад +145

    Joel's entire life post-outbreak has led up to this moment and it's just so brutal and cold but still very human. The game and show creators spoke about how they wanted to really focus on unconditional love and what beautiful and terrible things that can lead to. Joel finds purpose and joy in his life again but also his fierce love for Ellie and what he'd do to keep it may have literally doomed humanity while also massacring so many people. Fun little fact, in game testing the first game they found that 100% of parents would've made the same decision as Joel to save Ellie.

    • @mst3KGf
      @mst3KGf Год назад +23

      Yes, while non-parents were split 50/50 on whether Joel did the right thing or not, parents were 100% "that's it, Joel, KILL THEM ALL!!" And I'm guessing some of those conflicted non-parents are now parents and have moved firmly into Joel's camp. If it's your child or the world, the world gets the losing end every time.

    • @sgtmian
      @sgtmian Год назад +8

      i asked my co worker who has kids what he felt about joel’s choice and he said he was mad at him because "so because you can’t lose this kid my children have to die?" and that’s the only parent i’ve ever talked to who didnt identify with joel.

    • @davidstevenson1933
      @davidstevenson1933 Год назад +11

      @@sgtmian I am a parent and while I fully understand Joel's choices (I might even make the same ones in his shoes) they are unquestionably morally wrong. The man straight up murdered at least a dozen people (they were someone's children too) to "save" Ellie and potentially doomed the entire world's population to an unending losing battle with cordyceps for his own unquestionably selfish reasons. Millions will probably die horribly as a result of his actions. He didn't do it to save Ellie or protect her - he knows she would have chosen to die - he did it because HE didn't want to lose her. One could even question whether he truly even loves Ellie or whether his inability/unwillingness to process his grief over the loss of his child has resulted in him developing this attachment to Ellie merely as an avatar for his own kid. I struggle to see much moral distinction between Joel's actions and Kathleen's (both are murdering people for personal emotional reasons) and most viewers seem to have little difficulty identifying Kathleen's actions as immoral.

    • @davidstevenson1933
      @davidstevenson1933 Год назад +8

      People like to blame Marlene here and while her decision not to tell Ellie is morally wrong she is at least motivated by a sincere desire to benefit all of humanity, rather than her own emotional needs. Imagine that this show was told entirely from Marlene's perspective and we spent 9 episodes following her and the fireflies as they try to liberate humanity only to be massacred by the mercenary they hired over a girl he has only known for like a year. I think most people would feel drastically differently about Joel's actions in that scenario.

    • @d3l3tes00n
      @d3l3tes00n Год назад +3

      @@mst3KGf I'd respect what my child would want to do as I'd hope my own mother would.

  • @TerryYelmene
    @TerryYelmene Год назад +147

    These two young women gave us one of the most honest and thoughtful TLOU reactions of the hundreds delivered here. And at the end they were true to the love of one’s child versus the fate of the world dilemma Joel’s actions forced us to face. This episode’s reaction like every one of this series was great!

    • @sbj2k1
      @sbj2k1 Год назад +3

      I've yet to see a reaction that is not on team Joel though.

    • @dwnkaomwn3953
      @dwnkaomwn3953 Год назад +6

      @@sbj2k1 Those who are Team Joel basically would sacrifice humanity's salvation just to save one person. I don't see the logic in that.

    • @matthewsteinmetz729
      @matthewsteinmetz729 Год назад +8

      ​@@dwnkaomwn3953because it's realistic. We're selfish creatures after all.

    • @cullenarthur8879
      @cullenarthur8879 Год назад +7

      ​@@dwnkaomwn3953no, it's not logical but it's realistic. People are selfish, and Joel has proven himself very selfish throughout this series. Starting from the first episode where he, Tommy, and Sarah were driving out of town on the highway. They saw that family stranded on the side of the road and Tommy and Sarah want him to pull over and help. Joel refused, saying that someone else would come along. Remember the first words he said after Marlene explained what they would have to do, "find someone else". He has no problem with the ethics of the procedure, he just doesn't want it to be his adopted daughter. I think of it like this, Marlene did the wrong thing for the right reasons, and Joel did the right thing for selfish reasons, since Marlene violated Ellies bodily autonomy by not being truthful with her.

    • @dwnkaomwn3953
      @dwnkaomwn3953 Год назад +1

      @@matthewsteinmetz729 and @cullenarthur8879 Well, Marlene isn't one of those selfish human beings who put herself ahead of humanity's future. She was willing to break her late friend's(Anna) promise to take care of her daughter(Ellie) for the sake of the cure that could save the human race. Joel, as he just did in that QZ, was willing to kill everyone there to save Ellie, even if it meant keeping the world as a hell on Earth. I can understand Joel's parental attachment toward Ellie, but the cost of Joel did was unacceptably high.

  • @josehigor3672
    @josehigor3672 Год назад +57

    I just felt so empty when i first finished the game, 10 years later, the show made me feel the same way, a masterpiece of an adptation!

    • @blondymonk1535
      @blondymonk1535 Год назад +2

      It's ok. They dropped the ball on many key scenes.

    • @Alfofthyefax
      @Alfofthyefax Год назад +3

      I sat motionless for a considerable time after both game and adaptation. The beauty is being able to do both again and again.

    • @Alex-sz1ys
      @Alex-sz1ys Год назад +2

      Me too @@Alfofthyefax. I remember finishing almost the entire second half of the game in one sitting, looking at the menu screen after the game had ended and listening to the music again. I stayed like that for a good 5 minutes just trying to process it all. Once I came out of it I decided it had to be my favorite video game.

  • @duckducklarry
    @duckducklarry Год назад +384

    When you asked "Is Joel the bad guy??", congratulations, you are now a part of the debate that has been raging since the game came out in 2013. Enjoy! 😊

    • @saherking2707
      @saherking2707 Год назад +36

      I like how the story is a lot more complex than that though, it kinda points away from the good/bad guy dichotemy and forces you to look at humans as just that, as opposed to either a monster or a hero like most modern storytelling.

    • @19dario73
      @19dario73 Год назад +21

      Joel is not bad. Joel is LIke Bill. Bill is bad? NO. Bill is ""Protect Tess like I protected Frank. And God help any motherfucker who gets in your way". Bill docet

    • @mephi654
      @mephi654 Год назад +17

      What did Tess say to Joel? “Save who you can save.”
      Joel would be a passenger on a ‘cure’ train. Even if it worked he’d have nothing to do with it. If it didn’t work he’d be a spectator on the death of the only person who gave meaning to his life anymore.
      He decided to save who he could save.

    • @alexs1640
      @alexs1640 Год назад +4

      @@19dario73 I think that depends on where you fall. I'm not the type to "survive by any means". I don't want to live with the burden of having killed a bunch of people and robbing humanity of a cure for anyone, even my child. And I would hope anyone I love would choose to sacrifice me if that were the stakes.
      Was David a bad guy? He seemed like a survive by any means type.

    • @rafasheva8003
      @rafasheva8003 Год назад +5

      for me Joel is far from "bad"-Ellie became a daughter to him, I would do the same things he did,if I would be able

  • @diogobfonseca
    @diogobfonseca Год назад +92

    You two are the best! I loved every second of this journey. 😊
    00:51 "She kinda sounds like Ellie". OMG That's so perfect!! lol

  • @MegaGeNeRaLEE
    @MegaGeNeRaLEE Год назад +64

    So glad y’all picked up on Joel’s “villain” arc. If you think about it, from the worlds view, Joel is the selfish bad guy who dooms the worlds only hope for survival, but in the Joel’s story he’s the hero who saves his daughter and gets a second chance at redemption.

    • @RhinoSchneider_
      @RhinoSchneider_ Год назад +8

      It's worderful because Joel did what every one of us would have do. If I have to condemn humanity for a person I love, I would do it without thinking

    • @schauseil187
      @schauseil187 Год назад

      You certainly wouldn't have had to suck the whole mushroom out of Ellie's brain. If you had put in a little effort you would probably have come up with a gentler option. They could also have carried out animal testing: simply infect and raise test animals shortly before birth. Furthermore, one cannot say with certainty that they have found the cure. nothing is certain in experimental science. There are probably hundreds of failed attempts before success occurs. But what was certain was Ellie's death.

    • @rafael.dagrava163
      @rafael.dagrava163 11 месяцев назад +6

      First of all, there is no guarantee of a cure. They were going to kill her, but without knowing if it was going to work. Joel was selfish from what he did? Maybe yes. But is hard to judge from our perspective. The world took everything from him once, and it was about to happen again. I could have done the same, if I was him.

  • @ThisIsMyFullName
    @ThisIsMyFullName Год назад +92

    Tess said it from the beginning: "Joel and I aren't good people. We're doing this for us."

    • @jayjay-hm4ns
      @jayjay-hm4ns Год назад +7

      When ellie came in to his heart, he was no longer doing it for himself, he did it all for ellie whether she like it or not…no one wants to see their baby girl die. Call it selfish or not, he did it for her and himself, not just himself as people like to say it.

    • @schauseil187
      @schauseil187 Год назад +8

      @@jayjay-hm4ns in his world she is his second daughter. And for a father the whole world can burn if only his daughter is doing well. blood comes before everything else.

  • @darth856
    @darth856 Год назад +14

    Joel's warm smile watching Ellie giggling over the giraffe is everything. He loves her so much at this point.

  • @anthonyflorez5686
    @anthonyflorez5686 Год назад +13

    You two quickly became some of my favorite reactors.
    The story about not liking mushrooms and then being burned by a pan of mushrooms and now you like them…that is just in my head now.
    What a fun journey, looking forward to more.

    • @robertfishburn8545
      @robertfishburn8545 Год назад +2

      I love the variety of watching live action and anime on their channel. And all the shows so far have been heat

  • @KevinCSmith-ue8ck
    @KevinCSmith-ue8ck Год назад +8

    The HBO’s adaptation of TLoU introduced me to RUclips reaction videos. I’ve been obsessed.. I’ve watched dozens and like most.. but Haylo & Kiss are hands-down my favorite. Sad Season 1 (for you two) is over.
    Bravo. I’ll be watching more vids..

  • @canniloni
    @canniloni Год назад +109

    I love how you were like "Wait is this Ellie??" because you're not wrong. It is Ellie - the real, original Ellie from the game. Ashley Johnson.
    Having her in the adaption is so meaningful in so many ways, I could write an entire essay about it. But to keep it relatively short: Ellie was created by the writer of the game, yes, but also by Ashley Johnson. Ellie has Ashley's dreams (becoming an astronaut), her dry sense of humor, her interests (Ashley has a knife collection lol, loves comics and video games and is very good with a bow), etc etc.
    Ashley herself has said numerous times that the only difference between her and the character are the circumstances they grew up in. Ashley was also the one who chose Bella Ramsey as Ellie in the adaptation. And since Ellie's mom never appeared in the game, except for one letter that Ellie has, there is no other face that we associate with her. So this really feels like a scene in which Ashley hands the mantle of playing Ellie down to Bella.
    You can imagine how emotional gamers were when we saw the beginning of the episode, especially because most people immediately recognize Ashley Johnson by her iconic voice that we've listened so many hours to. And how emotional it must have been for the cast as well.

    • @MissingNo_
      @MissingNo_ Год назад +1

      I'm pretty sure Ashley didn't choose Bella. Just felt strongly that Bella was Ellie after they first met.

    • @canniloni
      @canniloni Год назад +4

      @@MissingNo_ they mentioned it in the podcast somewhere, of course she’s not the only one who has a say but she did choose her

    • @MissingNo_
      @MissingNo_ Год назад +1

      @@canniloni Its more like Ashley gave her endorsement or seal of approval after Bella was already casted.

    • @sgtmian
      @sgtmian Год назад +3

      @@MissingNo_true, but if she hadn’t i’m not sure they would have picked bella. neil said he would be heartbroken if ashley didnt love who they picked, because so much of who ellie is comes from her

    • @goodsoup7477
      @goodsoup7477 Год назад

      Yes dawg I cried

  • @vsquar3d
    @vsquar3d Год назад +39

    Carissa called it. Cordyceps growing in the brain and Joel going John Wick mode. 👏👏👏

    • @richardyoung3462
      @richardyoung3462 Год назад +5

      The irony is, that current science shows that the brain is the one place it DOESN'T grow into. It grows around it, and isolates it. Knowing that makes Sam's question even more heartbreaking, because infected are very likely still "there", they just have no control of their bodies.

    • @richardyoung3462
      @richardyoung3462 Год назад +1

      @@thecommonloon I think the game had several stages of infection before the person was considered "gone", and that was probably an example.
      The whole science of how they were going to operate on Ellie in both the game and the show was so messed up, there was no chance that it would succeed. That's one thing Pedro's performance in this episode. You can see him react each time Marlene says the wrong thing. Not giving Ellie the choice, not letting her see Joel, and when she says "our doctor THINKS there's a chance", when that chance is something slightly above zero when you see how they're doing it.

  • @Cramdeon1969
    @Cramdeon1969 Год назад +27

    "I don't know what to think" is the PERFECT REACTION to the end of this amazing adaptation. Well Done U 2 on an awesome Roller Coaster Ride of Reactions 👏👏

  • @bujin1977
    @bujin1977 Год назад +61

    If these two don't get Emmys for their performances, I'll be very disappointed.
    And if Pedro and Bella could get Emmys too, that would be a bonus... 😉

    • @HayloAndKiss
      @HayloAndKiss  Год назад +18

      LOL 😂
      You had us in the first half.
      But really, they definitely each deserve it!

    • @sbj2k1
      @sbj2k1 Год назад +1

      I don't think they were performing. Instead of Emmys perhaps a therapy session or two?

    • @jaives
      @jaives Год назад +1

      it's already been announced. 24 emmy nominations including best actor and actress. they probably won't win though.

    • @martinmillar7137
      @martinmillar7137 Год назад

      ​@@jaivesnah tlou will sweep the Emmys... in their category.. wednesday has all yhe same categories but under the umbrella of comedy...some how 🤣 I'd want em all yo win everything tbh.. wednesday was imo a truly generational experience ❤

    • @jaives
      @jaives Год назад +1

      @@martinmillar7137 i saw the nominations. Succession will be the one to sweep (27 nominations). Pedro is against Jeff Bridges, Bob Odenkirk, and three Succession actors. Bella is the youngest nom in lead actress. What they'll most probably win in the acting category is guest actor. They have four noms: Nick Offerman/Murray Bartlett for Ep 3, and Lamarr Johnson/Keivonn Woodard for Ep 4-5.

  • @ItsThePickle
    @ItsThePickle 11 месяцев назад +3

    This was by far one of my favourite times watching a reaction channel.
    I thought about watching TLOU again for the 5th time, but I thought why not watch someone else watch it.
    Kiss is a walking/talking intrusive thought.
    The ‘my forehead hurts’ every time she started getting upset.
    Naming the horse biscuit and the look in the camera from ‘Haylo’ this was incredible. I have subscribed.

  • @roarmbee7045
    @roarmbee7045 Год назад +10

    Ellie's mom was played by Ellie's actor from the game, Ashley Johnson

  • @M00SHTY
    @M00SHTY Год назад +12

    I love that you two are like the two voices I had in my head while I was watching, one saying "save ellie by any means" and the other saying "Yes, but at what cost?"
    You are wearing black and white aswell, Ying and Yang lol

  • @keith7392
    @keith7392 Год назад +2

    It was great watching yalls rollercoaster throughout the season. This ending ha been debated with me and my friends for over a decade so welcome to the conversation. The second game wasn't any easier emotionally so get ready to laugh and cry alot more once season 2 comes out

  • @Gunnhfran2
    @Gunnhfran2 Год назад +1

    Quote from Troy baker who played/voiced and motion captured Joel for the games “So people have asked me, why would Joel do that when he could have saved the world, and my answer to them is always this - he did, he did save the world. It's just that the world was that girl, and that's it”

  • @movieopinions7201
    @movieopinions7201 Год назад +5

    Great reaction! Joel was so traumatised by Sarah and then connecting with Ellie he did everything to protect her. The muffled gunshots and distant screaming you mentioned in the reaction was Joel Disassociating from what he was doing. He lied to her cus in his head it kept her safe

  • @Oddball217
    @Oddball217 Год назад +2

    I love all the little details throughout the series. Everytime Joel makes something up to tell Ellie and she decides to go along with it her response is "okay".

  • @Kerknor
    @Kerknor Год назад +3

    I was thrilled when I first saw this episode. Was glad they got to be brought in at least from scenes on the show.

  • @nadeeml9276
    @nadeeml9276 9 месяцев назад +1

    Watching the last sequence again after the May 1st stream of tlou, fantastic

  • @JorgiePorgie2011
    @JorgiePorgie2011 Год назад +1

    The moment with the giraffe is so magical in the game. Because after going through everything, it’s like a moment of peace and beauty before reentering the reality of the broken world.

  • @TdScar
    @TdScar Год назад +1

    Craig mazin said the underlying point of TLOU is “what is the cost of love?” And how beautiful but dangerous love can be and the choices we make because of it. How all encompassing love is. I find the debate over Joel’s choice so interesting because there’s so many different ways people look at it but I think we can all agree that we would do some crazy things for people we love and care deeply for.
    In his head there was no way he’d fail to protect Ellie like he failed to protect Sarah. I don’t know what he would’ve done if he lost her

  • @SeeMore-ki7mq
    @SeeMore-ki7mq Год назад +2

    You finally got there ladies but worth the wait. Excellent reaction throughout the series and kudos to your editor. great job.

  • @chadbailey7038
    @chadbailey7038 Год назад +6

    I was SOOOOO conflicted by this episode that I couldn’t watch anything for a week. Just wow. This show makes u think and feel so MUCH. 👏🏾. Even rewatching with you, all my conflict comes back. Why did you LIiiiiiIiiiEeEeee Joel?! 😫. Can’t wait for Season 2.

    • @tannhauser5399
      @tannhauser5399 Год назад

      @chadbailey7038 - my take, from the other response (sorry to repeat a small part of the same response, but I hope Haylo & Kiss let me keep it):
      "I would side with Joel 100%. Unless you are just another person sitting behing your keyboard, and being driven by some "emotions" of civilian life, lack of empathy and so on. Most people would do the same. Some wouldn't because they would think about some "greater" good.
      As a former military engineer/medic, who also has been working and living in over 20+ countries and seen enough crap (also considering the whole relationship between Ellie and Joel, and their past experiences) = yeah, I would do the same, and I would have no remorse regarding it. I wouldn't like it, but I would stil do it.
      I would also lie to Ellie at this particular point in the story. Why? Look deeper into yourself. And I would also known that this was wrong. But still would do it, at this point in her life. Because at this point it was about her, and she wasn't ready to bear that knowledge. Not just yet. And definitely I would tell her the truth sometimes later (when the moment is right, not that emotional, or when she is older), and then deal with the consequences of my lie.
      But at the end... I have the feeling that Ellie knows/suspects that Joel is lying. But she is letting that go, for the moment, in this particular moment of time. "

    • @Truthorfib
      @Truthorfib Год назад

      To be fair the story of the second part already came out. Let's just say that violence brings about more violence. And it won't stop until we decide to. But how can we?

  • @mikdoubled
    @mikdoubled Год назад +17

    "Is Joel the bad guy?"
    "I'm scared of Joel right now"
    I totally understand you. Him going through all the people in that hospital was horrible but I can understand up to a point. Not just as a viewer but as someone who's basically a parent to my siblings. But him lying to Ellie because part of him knows that Ellie would have gone through with the surgery was uncomfortable to watch and it made me wary of Joel bc for me the lie was more selfish than him killing everyone to save Ellie.

    • @Taubi81
      @Taubi81 Год назад

      Marlene lied also to Ellie and didnt tell her anytjing. Marlene sucks.

    • @bvbxiong5791
      @bvbxiong5791 Год назад +3

      Joel is the bad guy. He could have saved the world and instead he killed the people that could, minus Ellie.

    • @mikdoubled
      @mikdoubled Год назад

      @@bvbxiong5791 As Henry said he's the bad guy cause he did a bad guy thing. But that wasn't my point, my point was as an audience I was more understanding of his decision to murder people than him lying to Ellie because to me he was more aware of that decision in contrast to his disassociation when he was on a rampage.

    • @UnusedIcon
      @UnusedIcon Год назад +2

      I'll say this about Joel's lie to Ellie: I'm not convinced he did it for entirely selfish reasons. Yes, it's likely Ellie would resent Joel if she knew the truth, but there is another issue at play: from that last scene between the two, it's clear to me that Ellie has some pretty major survivor's guilt. Thanks to her immunity, she has survived situations that her friends did not. As such, she needed this cure business to work to make her feel like their deaths weren't in vain.
      I think this is partly why Joel lied: if she knew that Joel doomed humanity's best shot at survival so that Ellie could live, it would likely destroy her mental health. If she believes Joel's lie, she's not weighed down with the feeling of guilt that people were sacrificed for her to live her life.

    • @Soleya9
      @Soleya9 Год назад +2

      @@UnusedIcon Strongly agree. The lie was more about protecting Ellie than for selfish reasons. The fact that he even says "there's a whole lot more like you" is to relieve the survivors guilt that she's the only cure.

  • @jamalbayliss8523
    @jamalbayliss8523 Год назад +1

    Bill said they are protectors and god help anyone who gets in your way. And thats what we saw, he will never freeze again

  • @toddeeee
    @toddeeee Год назад

    I still remember my first playthrough when we got to the giraffe scene. Your reaction was exactly what i experienced then and what i experienced again when watching the show. I can't wait for season 2 and hopefully you both will watch with us again. Thank you!

  • @SubTXT_
    @SubTXT_ Год назад

    I very randomly got the urge to revisit this story through reactions. I saw most of the reactions that happened when the show came out so I was looking for a more recent one and up you two popped. I laughed! I cried! Great job. You two play off each other perfectly. The real sister energy is incredible.

  • @ypey1
    @ypey1 Год назад +4

    Such a great story! You guys have the perfect reactions to it, realy great to see

  • @DashingDavid
    @DashingDavid Год назад

    Always good to watch someone see this scene for the first time, without prior knowledge of the game. It hits every time.

  • @martinsernaleon3160
    @martinsernaleon3160 Год назад +1

    The world tooks everything for Joel and Joel tooks everything to the world, if you dont notice the first episode is call "when your lost in the darkness" and the final episode calls "Look for the light" its the Firefly frase and is also what Joel went throug.

  • @R0NINnoodles
    @R0NINnoodles Год назад +12

    A common overlooked detail in the show and the game is that the doctor he killed was roughly somewhere in his 30's early 40's so when the outbreak happened 20 years earlier he was anywhere from about 15 - 25. His knowledge if any was nowhere near the necessary levels to be a brain surgeon. The operation would have for sure killed Ellie, with no guarantee that the cure would've been successful.

  • @xxhabanerojoexx5747
    @xxhabanerojoexx5747 Год назад

    Remarkable! I have really enjoyed watching each episode... nice perspective... happy trails

  • @Judanthe
    @Judanthe 3 месяца назад +3

    Kiss through whole show: "I ain't having kids"
    Also Kiss: "Idc, Joel, kill em all"
    There was survey that showed all parents chose to save their child, Kiss is one of them 😅

  • @ZantiDC
    @ZantiDC Год назад +1

    guys plz consider more reactions we love them. im not the biggest anime enjoyer so having you guys react to regular shows is amazing

  • @beckybarnes4651
    @beckybarnes4651 Год назад +1

    You two are great reactors 👍 The end of the game was very conflicting too, the games and the series exist in the shades of grey that encapsulate most of our lives.

  • @mdr1990
    @mdr1990 Год назад +2

    I loved that flashback with Ashley(game ellie)playing ellies mom. Being a father it always gets me emotional seeing those little baby hands and cries

  • @100slicknick
    @100slicknick Год назад

    Just watched all 9 of your reaction videos to the series in one sitting. Currently typing this at almost 5 in the morning as a result 😅 love your reactions from start to finish. You guys paid so much attention and caught so many details and tie-ins throughout the show that I felt proud at times. As someone who is a HUGE fan of both games and of coursed loved the show as well, please avoid having ANYTHING spoiled that lies ahead. Personally I’d just recommend playing the second game if you don’t wanna wait multiple years to find out what happens next but I also understand if gaming isn’t your guys’ thing and/or you wanna go into future seasons of the show with no knowledge of what’s to come. Either way you’re in for a treat! I subscribed to the channel as well and look forward to more content in the future!

  • @DavideWernstrung
    @DavideWernstrung 8 месяцев назад

    Hi guys, I just binged all your reaction videos for this and absolutely loved it - your dynamic is so good, really funny but also really emotional which is exactly what you want for good reaction content - I got to re-experience the series by watching this so it was really a tour de force. I also loved how much you both picked up on - linking details back to prior references in the series and making good predictions based on what was shown to the viewer- including some stuff i didn’t get until a second watch-through! i mean you guys got every single detail!
    I would absolutely love it if you guys considered doing a reaction series to the cinematic playthrough of The Last of Us Part II (which is on RUclips) - because the story is so faithful to the original source material that Part II really does feel like a natural continuation with characters you are already attached to. Of course it might be too long to react to the entire thing but I’m sure there would be a way of doing it and you wouldn’t have to wait so long for the next season. Even if you just did the first 4 hours of the video game I guarantee it would be a very popular video since the opening section of that game is so iconic.
    If you’re not interested in reacting to the video game, then please, for the love of god do everything in your power to avoid spoilers because I want to get the chance to watch your immediate reactions to the story in Part II (as one of my all time favourite pieces of media storytelling) when the second season comes out! Don’t engage with ANY discussion or search online about last of us - just go in 100% blind because that is the ultimate experience, the writing in Part II is just incredible!
    Anyways, thanks so much for the series - I’ve subscribed and can’t wait to check out more of your content - I think you also did Haunting of Hill House which is another one of my favourites! Bly Manor is a great one too if you’re looking for reaction content.

  • @gamersthumbs4673
    @gamersthumbs4673 Год назад +1

    This is probably the best adaptation that's ever been on TV.. The actors, Representation of the original games are stellar. There's so many things i would love to say but i cant so ill wait till yall either play the games which are amazing and fantastic content on its own or wait till season 2. Thank you for the reactions to one of my favorite mediums of all time, one love.

  • @nathanburr
    @nathanburr Год назад +3

    I’m giddy with anticipation!
    Let’s get into it.

    • @kylereese4822
      @kylereese4822 Год назад

      Joel killed Marlen for another reason.. Joel decades earlier had worked out the math of getting a working self sustaining city size(100-000) population back and the same for the world he knew the death/infected rate/speed was to extreme for it to happen so just let it be as is...

    • @kylereese4822
      @kylereese4822 Год назад

      In that world I`d be set on problem solving...
      Tire rot what to use as a replacement for rubber - multi layers of leather with serviving parts of tires attached for tread...
      Abandoned buses a black smith could make replacement wheels to make it mobile(towed by horses so the engine running on methane, hydrogen, could used as a power station...
      Live some ware that has a large swimming pool that can be used as fuel for steam/hydrogen creation...

  • @19nzinga
    @19nzinga Год назад

    I’m sad too. 😢 I love watching this with you two. The best reactions!

  • @xxhabanerojoexx5747
    @xxhabanerojoexx5747 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @old-skooldude
    @old-skooldude Год назад

    I happened to stumble onto your channel by accident yesterday (August 16) and I loved your style so much I binged the entire playlist in one night. Please keep reacting!

  • @georgecull2864
    @georgecull2864 Год назад

    From the UK. I am a massive fan of this fantastic game, it's story, and this wonderful adaptation to a TV series which does the original story superb justice. I have watched far too many of the reaction vids available on YT, due to my addiction to the story. You two have been brilliant, I don't need post episode comments from you both because your heartfelt reactions and comments during the episodes say it all. Well done to both of you and good luck with the rest of your reaction vids and whatever you guys do with your futures. Thanks for the reactions, looking forward to series 2 and your reaction vids 👍

  • @saltau3734
    @saltau3734 Год назад +2

    ashley johnson is 🔥
    another great episode, thank you both so much, really enjoyed watching this series again to see your reactions

  • @Klevermoregames
    @Klevermoregames Год назад

    i would love to hear like a discussion section after yalls reactions in the future. i like how yall think.

  • @hope4004
    @hope4004 3 месяца назад +2

    joel lost a daughter and he’s not gonna lose another. she taught him how to love again 💔

  • @mitragynin5442
    @mitragynin5442 Год назад

    Wow, thank you so much for your reaction guys! Because of your emotional response, I could relive again what I felt the first time watching the last of us. I'm a guy but I cry all the time watching emotional scenes. I could see, that you felt the exact thing as I did. I grew up being thought that showing emotions are weak.. but inside I'm so sensitive. I don't know, I just twanted to say thank you that I could cry with you :)

  • @MrPelao911
    @MrPelao911 Год назад +1

    Back when i played the game for the first time i had a similar reaction to Joel's actions, feeling really conflicted wondering if i would let Ellie sacrice herself for a cure. Then i had a kid lol....now i support Joel 100%, i would do the exact same thing.

  • @kipbeegle8260
    @kipbeegle8260 Год назад

    First, You two did such a great job on these Last of Us videos. your two independant reactions made this one of my favorite reactions to the last of us. As hard as it might be to do, go back and watch it again. Listen to the music and watch Joel with what you know now that you finished it. While he is the protaganist of the story he isn't a good guy. He told us this a few times in the show. Again, wonderfully entertaining reaction video!

  • @Bill-en7kw
    @Bill-en7kw Год назад +1

    They did a poll asking whether they thought what Joel did was right. Those people who were not parents were around 50/50. When parents were asked, almost 100 percent were backing Joel.

  • @martinmillar7137
    @martinmillar7137 Год назад

    This will go down as my all time fav watch alongs...ever... i already watched it before i found this channel.. i wanted to explore it via a blind reaction and you two delivered.. absolutely brilliant... I experienced it again in deeper ways.. thanks to you two ❤... Glad now we can all breathe lol toll on season 2 😂😂😂 ooof

    • @martinmillar7137
      @martinmillar7137 Год назад

      Btw joel cena hospital scene is the best scene ever shot in tv history...it was Powerful haunting... Poetic... Beautiful even... Stunning stunning scene...

  • @DragonTwilight
    @DragonTwilight Год назад +2

    It’s the classic dilemma of the Trolley Problem. What answer is the right answer? Sometimes there is not right answer, just the answer you can live with.

  • @HelloThere.GeneralKenobi
    @HelloThere.GeneralKenobi Год назад

    After the season had finished, I came across The Last of Us podcast for the series and listened through it because I was not ready for it to be over. Each podcast episode was done after each episode during the season. One of the people in the podcast was Troy Baker. In the game he is the original voice actor for Joel. He was also in the last episode and Ellie killed him before she killed David. The start of this episode featured Ashley Johnson who voiced Ellie in the game. I'm sure you two have already been told about Troy last week and Ashley earlier today.
    Ashley was a special guest in the podcast finale and Troy was a part of the whole series. Their thoughts on the finale's final talk with Ellie and Joel is very very interesting. If you two have some spare time I think you should check out the podcast for the entire season and it'll give you extra hints about each episode.
    So what's next?
    I know I have mentioned/recommended this earlier and I will always stand by it. I hope you two will watch and react to the series Firefly and it's ending movie, Serenity. The season is 14 episodes long and I would watch them in order. There's confusion about which episode was supposed to come before another and it's all jumbled up. Go in order of 1-14
    Take care of yourselves, H & K

  • @krisreese6754
    @krisreese6754 Год назад +4

    I was so looking forward to this 🎉❤

  • @spenser6768
    @spenser6768 Год назад

    You all have become my favorite reaction channel! Love the authenticity and how expressive you are!

  • @Eduardo54cenationx2
    @Eduardo54cenationx2 Год назад +1

    It has been a great journey guys. Can't wait for your Arcane reactions now.

  • @GoldenEra91
    @GoldenEra91 Год назад +3

    I think for season two you guys should talk a little bit about what happened in the episodes I think it’ll be interesting to get your initial reactions

  • @edselroad
    @edselroad Год назад

    I’ve really enjoyed your reactions; you both are right on top of all the subtleties that made this show/story so good.
    Looking forward to season 2 😊

  • @martinmillar7137
    @martinmillar7137 Год назад +1

    Hospital scene is imo top 5 ever recorded for tv... It's truly stunning ❤

  • @Well...Darn.
    @Well...Darn. Год назад +1

    Not a parent, but I do not think I could sacrifice my child, or allow them to decide to sacrifice themself for a "maybe" cure. I don't think I could even sacrifice the child of a stranger on a "maybe."

  • @seannorth6968
    @seannorth6968 Год назад

    Ladies you both surpassed yourself's with this series it's been an absolute pleasure thank you for all your exceptional work and effort & look forward to seeing the next adventure you have for us 🙌 take care and sending good vibes and sunshine smiles to both 💜🌻🌺🙏🤗

  • @rymundo9345
    @rymundo9345 Год назад +1

    Welcome to the sweet affliction of The Last of Us. I remember feeling what you're feeling when I finished the game and discovered that Joel could possibly be a secret antagonist. Can't wait for your reaction for season 2

  • @NoShiiitSherlock
    @NoShiiitSherlock Год назад +2

    18:13 - I THINK - if Marleen was so certain Ellie would consent to sacrificing herself - then it should have been no problem lettin her decide and letting both her & Joel say goodbye. Autonomy is important folks!! That's what i think.

  • @Gabriel_Moline
    @Gabriel_Moline Год назад

    Really great, and complex reaction!🌸🌿🌼🌱

  • @rayhutchinson640
    @rayhutchinson640 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this fantastic season reaction! You two were every bit as entertaining as the show!

  • @papa_xan
    @papa_xan Год назад +18

    So in the game you can find notes that the Fireflies have tried this before and failed, so Joel going all Rambo and killing them all to save Ellie makes more sense. It's not really addressed in the show other than in episode 2 when Joel says something about that he's heard this all before and it never works.

    • @rafaelnussi2001
      @rafaelnussi2001 Год назад +1

      But they tried with people there are not immune i presume.

    • @superronjon
      @superronjon Год назад +3

      They have tried to find a cure before, they have never had a person that actually already had immunity, which makes this much different

    • @dansmart3182
      @dansmart3182 Год назад +2

      ​@@rafaelnussi2001It specifically says they were infected.

    • @duckducklarry
      @duckducklarry Год назад

      Joel absolutely believes they could make a cure. They even set it up more explicitly in the show, in ep 6 he says "If she says they can do it, they can do it".
      He made the choice to take the cure away from humanity to save Ellie. That's the only thing that matters.

    • @saviourself687
      @saviourself687 Год назад

      The show is setting up Joel for his role in the second game (I don't want to spoil it but if you know, you know).
      The continued retconns though just keep getting dumber...
      1. In the game, it's a vaccine, not a cure. To 'cure' an infected, you'd have to weed out all the fungus that has replaced most of their bodily tissue, an impossibility even if you could get close enough to give them the shot... Never mind manufacturing and distribution. The game at least kept it grounded in something that might be achievable, a vaccine that could prevent infection due to exposure to spores etc.
      2. Joel's death march through the hospital was against far greater odds in the game. You are constantly outnumbered and desperately fighting rather than murdering helpless guards. They also left out the bit where he flees to the elevator getting shot at the whole way carrying Ellie the same way he carried Sarah. Executioner vs desperate father, but we know how Druckman want's him portrayed.
      3. In the game, prior to the remaster, you immediately know that Ellie know's Joel is lying, but forgives him because she knows how much it cost him to open up after losing Sarah. How it would be impossible for him to give her up. Remember that Ellie's greatest fear was being abandoned (the 'just be more scared' conversation in Jackson), not that she wouldn't make a difference. In the show, she's much more in line with Ellie in TLOU2 who will despise Joel for what he's done. No empathy or acceptance, just more revenge plots.
      4. Joel's non existent suicide retconn... Goes with his non-existent panic attacks/anxiety and other BS they added to the show to make him weak. The point of Joel being a monster of a man was that Ellie relied on him completely, which in turn makes her actions when he was wounded even more heroic. In the show, people constantly compliment her over how awesome she is so you don't honestly think much about her taking over while Joel is laid up. Similarly, the 'more scared' speech in the show comes off completely lame because she's so good at everything... X D
      I kinda wish the ladies had played the game first so they could at least experience it properly...

  • @alan-daniel
    @alan-daniel Год назад

    I enjoyed watching you two experience this show/story. I almost noped out from the early-season dry heaving (that can often for whatever reason even trigger my own gag reflex) but glad I stayed. Still can't believe how well they pulled this thing off, and the failed suicide attempt was a genius addition by Craig Maizin
    As I'm sure others who know game Part 2's story are, I'm a bit... nervous about season 2

  • @williamhu6941
    @williamhu6941 Год назад +13

    The best moments about the finale is that Ashley Johnson gives birth to Ellie, which is really poetic, and the reason for it is that Ashley Johnson herself originally provided the voice role of Ellie in both games, and the hospital scene reminded me a lot of the ending of the first game. And most of all, Laura Bailey had a secret cameo in the operating room scene because she had contributed her time in the first game as one of the nurses.

  • @rickcrane9883
    @rickcrane9883 Год назад

    Hey y’all. I thoroughly enjoyed your reactions to this series. Look forward to much more.

  • @TheMick7823
    @TheMick7823 Год назад

    You girls have such beautiful and natural reactions it’s fantastic ❤

  • @fumblingtitan1411
    @fumblingtitan1411 Год назад +1

    "She kinda sounds like Ellie" - Kiss 0:52 ... So awesome you picked this up. Thats Ashley Johnson from Critical Role, the Avengers (cameo) and who did the voice of Ellie in the games. I assume Bella Ramsey took notes on Ellies behaviour and vocal mannerisms from the game so she could play a faithful adaptation. She would have studied Ashley Johnson playing Ellie, only to have Ashley Johnson play her characters mother in the show. Its such a beautiful, 'full-circle' moment. Anyway what the hell am i supposed to do now that this is over. I've really liked your reaction to this show. It makes me hopeful for the future of this channel... I'm excited to see what comes next. Take care guys! ;)

  • @antonioleyva2159
    @antonioleyva2159 Год назад +1

    I like how their reaction was “yea save Ellie” “don’t mess with the family” and by the end it turned to “I don’t know how to feel about this” and “Is Joel the bad guy”

  • @kaylacaseygaming
    @kaylacaseygaming Год назад +1

    A big theme in this story and in the games is, actions have consequences. I'm looking forward to season two...

  • @nullunit
    @nullunit Год назад

    Great reactions, great series, and one of the best adaptations I have seen. You two got both of the points of view most players did in the game. It definitely left me conflicted because you are in control of Joel when he makes his was through the hospital so you are complicit. "We" killed all those fire flies and the doctor, because of how "we" couldn't handle losing another daughter. Joel is kinda the baddie, even though I understand and sympathize with he motives. This episode and last one also show us why Robert was terrified of him way back in episode 1. He is a beast when he gets wound up, even all old and creaky he will murder everyone in his way.
    I love the way they wove in the actors from the game.
    Merle Dandridge was Marlene. She is the only one who got to play the same character in the game as show. They added some depth to her in this episode that we don't remember getting in the game. Knowing that she knew Ellie literally her whole life and was still willing to sacrifice her for even a chance at a cure was meaningful. In the game it was easy to hate her because of how invested in Ellie and Joel I was but in the show, not so easy. She was doing the "right" thing thing the wrong way.
    Ashley Johnson was Ellie in the game and Ellie's mom here. I love how you two called it from her voice, even though I don't think you played the game. That just shows how well Bella Ramsey was able to evoke the performance that Ashley did for Ellie in the game. Ashley Johnson is rad, love her to bits.
    Troy Baker was Joel in the games; James', second command to cannibal-pedo David from the last episode. They tried to make Troy ugly but even dirty and emaciated he is too good looking for the apocalypse. I loved how Ellie kills him with that gnarly cleaver to the throat, just a nice juicy death.
    Jeffery Pierce was Tommy in the games, but Perry, second in command to Kathleen in the Henry/Sam arc. I have seen him in lots of stuff before but he was really good playing off of Melanie Lynskey. Neither character was in the games but they fit right in and I believed their connection.
    As far as cameos go they all got a cool little tidbit but Ashley being Ellie's mom was perfect. I love the line when baby Ellie is crying "You tell 'em".

  • @mistercharmer
    @mistercharmer Год назад

    Please please make a review video on the whole season! I've watch alot of reaction videos on the last of us and it was just awesome seeing yals reactions. Yal definitely have to play the game!

  • @yazdank2
    @yazdank2 Год назад

    love your vibe and your reactions to the show! really looking forward to arcane

  • @00rabbit7
    @00rabbit7 Год назад

    Yayyyy you did it! Can’t wait for you two to play through the game

  • @deboraharroyo3047
    @deboraharroyo3047 Год назад +1

    Real giraffe and the show was nominated for 24 Emmys.

  • @Sd-cl6of
    @Sd-cl6of Год назад +1

    He had no choice.They did not ask Ellie.He is like her father now. So he had to do what a father would do. Protect his child at all costs.

  • @lepton4
    @lepton4 Год назад

    It was fun watching the show with you two. Your reactions are great. 👍

  • @intendedexpression6609
    @intendedexpression6609 Год назад +1

    17:06 This is a great question!

  • @djara-go6jo
    @djara-go6jo Год назад

    also congratulations for your reactions I love to see your reactions

  • @bagadounuts59
    @bagadounuts59 Год назад +1

    Before the game was made Neil Druckman did a poll of this situation with 100 ppl with kids and 100 ppl without. The ppl without kids it was about 50/50 if they would save their child or not. The ppl with kids it was 100 percent save their child.

  • @TheMick7823
    @TheMick7823 Год назад

    Absolutely loved every one of these reactions and am rewatching them again👍🏻 can’t wait for Arcane next ladies🍻

  • @dmaniar007
    @dmaniar007 Год назад

    Haylo n Kiss you two just witnessed a 'Hero' becoming a Human!
    I thoroughly enjoyed your reactions!
    Would you believe it, show runners somehow managed to make this ending even better!
    -- Joel attempt on himself.... that conversation doesn't happen in the game!
    There are several places where show runners adapted the story & improved it.
    Cameos Troy Baker (OG Joel) as James | Ashley Johnson (OG Ellie) as Ellie's Mom Anna Williams.
    The sudden Ending is like .... No .. No .. No .. I wana know more ... Dont do this .... I cant wait for second season!!!

  • @Enterprisek143
    @Enterprisek143 Год назад +1

    The final episode, supremely glad to have seen your journey through this show. Here we got to see the culmination of Joels emotional journey, letting himself open up to Ellie about his suicide attempt and about Sarah. He was a father again 100%, all of the panic attacks from "Kin" was the bottle cracking, and the fear for a loved one ("I wasn't afraid before I met you") that he had buried deep to hide the pain of Sarah flooding out all at once. Now he leveled out a bit, allowed himself to be vulnerable like a father.
    Then suddenly all of that was threatened in an instant. To lose a second daughter was too much. (after Sarah, Tess, Bill and Frank), Especially for something not guarantied, a simple -chance- at a maybe cure. To save a world already mourned? Ellie was was real, the cure was a maybe. Joel's trauma response / survival mode kicked back on, he dissociates from everything except the drive or protect. You can tell by the slowed and monotone speaking and glazed look to his eyes.
    Was he the bad guy? ("after all I did a bad guy thing"), it was an impossible situation. He was selfish for sure, to choose the good of the few over the many, to save the one he couldn't bear to lose the most; he had to lie and break her trust which could ultimately make him lose her anyways. Nobody involved was the good guy, nor were they the bad guy. Just desperate people trying to figure out what the right thing to do was. So Joel, amidst a broken world, did what he spent 20 years learning to do. ("save who you can save") ("and god help any mother frakker who gets in your way")
    My personal take as a parent, I don't think I could have done different. Especially since the scientist doctor was likely just a med student 20 years ago who is making due with random resources that he could find. He did no preliminary tests. This was a hail mary put together with duct tape, I couldn't sacrifice a kid for something that likely won't work, and even if it does couldn't really be distributed.
    Keep being awesome and honest like in this run, and I think your success will continue to grow. Good luck

  • @OnePlancheMan
    @OnePlancheMan Год назад +1

    4:52 guns are unfathomably loud (even pistols), and being in confined spaces amplifies the sound. Covering her ears would not have helped, especially since the shockwave goes through your body. Ellie, being having just been born, has never heard anything that loud before.

  • @superronjon
    @superronjon Год назад +56

    It's like Maria said in episode 6, "The only ones who can betray us, are the ones we trust"

    • @HayloAndKiss
      @HayloAndKiss  Год назад +15

      We knew this had to come back at some point!!

    • @d3l3tes00n
      @d3l3tes00n Год назад +1

      Which is common sense lol

    • @Truthorfib
      @Truthorfib Год назад

      If you've watched or played the last of us 2. You know what's coming next

  • @markwang77
    @markwang77 Год назад +4

    loved your reaction - you don't talk over what's happening and just let the scenes breath. you hit all the emotional notes of the story

  • @CaliTransplant
    @CaliTransplant Год назад

    Best reaction of the season from you guys.