Hey Andrew, why don’t you call 10 of Brad’s customers from 12-18 months ago and ask them how their coaches are working for them and what they would and would not do if they were buying today. This would help todays buyers with information they may not be considering.
Andrew, I asked for this video a few weeks ago and wow you made it for us. So informative as many buyers are under $400k, yet we seek >$1M one day. Like I said, you sir are an amazingly talented person and deserve to own a bigtime business like the motorcoach store. Keep it up!!!
Great review, Andrew, thank you for this! We are on our third RV, a 2020 Newmar 4369 Dutch Star. We love this coach, the floor plan is perfect for us, we've had zero major issues with it. The build quality compared to our previous coach is head and shoulders superior. There are times when climbing steep grades on an interstate while pulling our Jeep Wrangler that we wished for a bit more power (Mountain Aire?), but that's about the only negative I can think of.
This was great....... I like how you said it 14:14 (when it gets to me - I don't want it to break) -- This was great to point out where the factory is located --
My opinion only, Entegra has the best value in comparison to the three brands. They come with many more standard options at a lower price point. We had an 18 Aspire and now have a 22 Anthem. As an example of value, our Anthem has 365 front tires 315 rears. Many of the coaches in our class have 315/295. Just as one example of the things that Entegra puts into their coaches. That said, our next move is probably to come see you all one day for a used Prevost.
Great video Andrew, as always. I've been watching your videos since you started with the detailing and you've really been a joy to watch your videos. I've learned so much. Thank you Andrew for all you do. Regards, Myk
You kinda skimmed over the New Aire which is above Dutch Star. We own a New Aire and love it! We didn't want a long Coach and our New Aire is the perfect length. Thanks for the good information.
I would never pay over 500k for a coach that is built with sidewalls that don't protect in serious accidents. My family will be traveling in a pre owned prevost or newell coach just because of the safety.
I hear you and agree BUT (hear me out) if YOU purchase ANY one of them for ME I'd drive it and just leave the family home!!! 🤷🏿♀️ WE should make this happen Mike!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️
I really like Entegra. But i would love to see Entegra have the interior such as Newmar or Tiffin. But Entegra is still one of my favorites out of the 3. Really good vide Andrew!
Hey Andrew - one advantage Newmar has over Tiffin is they will factory service any Newmar product, no matter the age. I owned an 07 Dutch Star and never had a problem getting it serviced at their factory service center. In fact, i saw older Newmar motorhomes and 5th wheels there as well. I understand the Tiffin factory service center will not service any Tiffins older than 10 years. The will refer you to one of the independent service centers in and around Red Bay. Not sure what Entegra does?
With the way things are right now, the only one I would even consider is the Newmar. The others are all owned by Thor and Thor has been ripping people off, producing garbage and ignoring customer complants
#1 Prevost/Newell # 2 Country coach/ high end Monaco, beaver,HR. #3 Foretravel. Can’t beat a semi monocoque chassis. Can’t bring myself to pay more than a half a million for a raised rail chassis.
You really put your stamp on things; I respect that. That said, I agree with your ranking, but I think the big comparison is at the multimillion dollar level: Liberty, Newell, and Millennium.
Andrew you failed to say Newmar was purchased by Winnebago unless I missed it. I would buy a Foretravel before buying a High end Newmar if you want quality!
Not so sure about Foretravel anymore....are they still building semi monocoque or have they caved and are building the same as everyone else ? Andrew ?
Newmar 1A, Tiffin 1B and Entegra 3. I cannot tell you how many of my friends have bought new Entegra's and got rid of them within 6-9 months. Entegra is far behind Newmar and Tiffin
As an RV technician of 25 years that worked for a dealership that sold all 3 lines Newmar is by far the better choice, 2nd would be the Tiffen Bus only and entegras are nice but way too expensive for what you get, might as well buy a Marathon coach on a prevost chassis 😅
You are correct. They can mark up the MSRP as high as they want to. If a manufacturer wants to be able to give bigger discounts than the competition all they have to do is mark up the MSRP higher...... Discount off MSRP only matters if you are comparing between two exact same models from the same mfg.
Hey Andrew, I think many of us would like to know how American coaches stack up in this debate. Even just a comment on your thoughts of how they compare in this debate for value comparing the eagle/dream to the cornerstone/anthem and the equivalent from Newmar.
Gotta say. We’re in the market for a new coach. Current coach is a 2021 Entegra Aspire (that we bought new) and we’ve been looking at Newmars. The Dutch Star is great, but lacks the tech out Aspire has and the furniture sucks in the Dutch Star compared to our Aspire’s Villa Furniture - just being honest. The Newmar’s build quality is meh as well. Wasn’t impressed. I could point out massive issues with each coach we looked at (looked at at least 10 in person). Cabinet issues. Etc. fit and finish isn’t what everybody makes them out to be and the furniture in the DS’s are basically plasticy marine grade furniture. Our Villa furniture is better in every way in the Aspire. Don’t get me wrong, I like Newmar a lot. I just can’t justify the prices with the lack of quality and worse furniture. Our Aspire is nice and has no major issues other than our dash A/C going out and that was a Spartan issue. Entegra took care of the other issues at the factory without issue. I think we might keep the Aspire due to the above and the fact that it’s hard to justify the cost difference.
Furthermore, we are considering used Essex and King Aire’s as well as Cornerstones. If we don’t find something that makes sense, we’ll keep the Aspire for a few more years and see how things shake out. Might even go up-market to a used Prevost.
Hey Andrew, why don’t you call 10 of Brad’s customers from 12-18 months ago and ask them how their coaches are working for them and what they would and would not do if they were buying today. This would help todays buyers with information they may not be considering.
Now that is a great idea! Come on Andrew!
Oh boy that’s priceless
This is a great idea
definitely a good idea, and would be greatly welcomerd. I'd be referring more friends to watch
Andrew, I asked for this video a few weeks ago and wow you made it for us. So informative as many buyers are under $400k, yet we seek >$1M one day. Like I said, you sir are an amazingly talented person and deserve to own a bigtime business like the motorcoach store. Keep it up!!!
Great review, Andrew, thank you for this! We are on our third RV, a 2020 Newmar 4369 Dutch Star. We love this coach, the floor plan is perfect for us, we've had zero major issues with it. The build quality compared to our previous coach is head and shoulders superior. There are times when climbing steep grades on an interstate while pulling our Jeep Wrangler that we wished for a bit more power (Mountain Aire?), but that's about the only negative I can think of.
This was great....... I like how you said it 14:14 (when it gets to me - I don't want it to break) -- This was great to point out where the factory is located --
My opinion only, Entegra has the best value in comparison to the three brands. They come with many more standard options at a lower price point. We had an 18 Aspire and now have a 22 Anthem. As an example of value, our Anthem has 365 front tires 315 rears. Many of the coaches in our class have 315/295. Just as one example of the things that Entegra puts into their coaches. That said, our next move is probably to come see you all one day for a used Prevost.
Great video Andrew, as always. I've been watching your videos since you started with the detailing and you've really been a joy to watch your videos. I've learned so much. Thank you Andrew for all you do.
Regards, Myk
I appreciate that!
You kinda skimmed over the New Aire which is above Dutch Star. We own a New Aire and love it! We didn't want a long Coach and our New Aire is the perfect length. Thanks for the good information.
Love the comps and price differences…Thank you Andrew
I would never pay over 500k for a coach that is built with sidewalls that don't protect in serious accidents. My family will be traveling in a pre owned prevost or newell coach just because of the safety.
I hear you and agree BUT (hear me out) if YOU purchase ANY one of them for ME I'd drive it and just leave the family home!!! 🤷🏿♀️
WE should make this happen Mike!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️
Newmar entegra and tiffins ala al barsha 3
I really like Entegra. But i would love to see Entegra have the interior such as Newmar or Tiffin. But Entegra is still one of my favorites out of the 3. Really good vide Andrew!
I believe Freightliner has "inherited" Tiffin Powerglide chassis production, so provisions may be made for service of legacy chassis.
Great wisdom Andrew.
Hey Andrew - one advantage Newmar has over Tiffin is they will factory service any Newmar product, no matter the age. I owned an 07 Dutch Star and never had a problem getting it serviced at their factory service center. In fact, i saw older Newmar motorhomes and 5th wheels there as well.
I understand the Tiffin factory service center will not service any Tiffins older than 10 years. The will refer you to one of the independent service centers in and around Red Bay.
Not sure what Entegra does?
With the way things are right now, the only one I would even consider is the Newmar. The others are all owned by Thor and Thor has been ripping people off, producing garbage and ignoring customer complants
I get the recalls every Monday and I can tell you, Tiffin is on it quite often
#1 Prevost/Newell # 2 Country coach/ high end Monaco, beaver,HR. #3 Foretravel. Can’t beat a semi monocoque chassis. Can’t bring myself to pay more than a half a million for a raised rail chassis.
75% of what you listed are out of business 😅 Monaco was trash, Beaver and CC were bought out by Monaco and they failed
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We bought a 2021 Newmar Kountry Star 3709 from NIRVC and lobe it so far
Great video! I learned so much from your videos, thanks for sharing!!!
You really put your stamp on things; I respect that. That said, I agree with your ranking, but I think the big comparison is at the multimillion dollar level: Liberty, Newell, and Millennium.
Best channel there is for diesel pusher content and it isn't close.
Love this video, Andrew! Great information!
Andrew! Do a video Comparing these 3 against a Newell or low end Prevost
How come you didn’t add American coach to that video
Great video. I am really enjoying the channel.
Andrew you failed to say Newmar was purchased by Winnebago unless I missed it. I would buy a Foretravel before buying a High end Newmar if you want quality!
Not so sure about Foretravel anymore....are they still building semi monocoque or have they caved and are building the same as everyone else ? Andrew ?
Bookmarking this for future reference. Thx!
Newmar 1A, Tiffin 1B and Entegra 3. I cannot tell you how many of my friends have bought new Entegra's and got rid of them within 6-9 months. Entegra is far behind Newmar and Tiffin
Newmar is winnebago. how sad
As an RV technician of 25 years that worked for a dealership that sold all 3 lines Newmar is by far the better choice, 2nd would be the Tiffen Bus only and entegras are nice but way too expensive for what you get, might as well buy a Marathon coach on a prevost chassis 😅
The inflation off MsRP is such a bait and switch. It’s comical when people think they are getting such a deal.
You are correct. They can mark up the MSRP as high as they want to. If a manufacturer wants to be able to give bigger discounts than the competition all they have to do is mark up the MSRP higher...... Discount off MSRP only matters if you are comparing between two exact same models from the same mfg.
Andrew You can get Essex and under on Freightliner Chassis Also Cornerstone you can get on freightliner too This is New for 2025
London Aire as well. Of course you have been able to choose either chassis at the Dutch Star and below level for years now.
Thank you!
Why are they so low to the ground? Don't they scrape the pavement when the road dips or going over a speedbump?
Three great companies until they were taken over by companies whose only motivation is increasing the bottom line to pump the stock price.
The mountain aire now has the 525 Cummings, I think it started in 2024
Hey Andrew, I think many of us would like to know how American coaches stack up in this debate. Even just a comment on your thoughts of how they compare in this debate for value comparing the eagle/dream to the cornerstone/anthem and the equivalent from Newmar.
I believe the red was discontinued this year
We were recovering from 2008 recession
What about Winnebago?
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a RESTROOM is a public toilet. Motorhomes have BATHROOMS
Shipments of new Class A motor homes have now sunk to only 472 per month according to RVIA. Yikes!
That's only rvia coaches, that number doesn't include many of the high end units.
Entegra is Jayco
Newmar is winnebago, sad!
Gotta say. We’re in the market for a new coach. Current coach is a 2021 Entegra Aspire (that we bought new) and we’ve been looking at Newmars. The Dutch Star is great, but lacks the tech out Aspire has and the furniture sucks in the Dutch Star compared to our Aspire’s Villa Furniture - just being honest. The Newmar’s build quality is meh as well. Wasn’t impressed. I could point out massive issues with each coach we looked at (looked at at least 10 in person). Cabinet issues. Etc. fit and finish isn’t what everybody makes them out to be and the furniture in the DS’s are basically plasticy marine grade furniture. Our Villa furniture is better in every way in the Aspire. Don’t get me wrong, I like Newmar a lot. I just can’t justify the prices with the lack of quality and worse furniture. Our Aspire is nice and has no major issues other than our dash A/C going out and that was a Spartan issue. Entegra took care of the other issues at the factory without issue. I think we might keep the Aspire due to the above and the fact that it’s hard to justify the cost difference.
Furthermore, we are considering used Essex and King Aire’s as well as Cornerstones. If we don’t find something that makes sense, we’ll keep the Aspire for a few more years and see how things shake out. Might even go up-market to a used Prevost.
Save your money and buy a Prevost or even a Newell.
Wat about Newell
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Tiffin has horrible product reviews and complaints. It's a toss off between Entegra and Newmar.
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1 Entegra 2 Newmar 3 Tiffin. newmar is winnebago
Time to stop watching. I never opened to watch a Comercial.
My 1996 Foretravel is better than all of these motorhomes !!!!
Really, NEWELL is not a top 3, interesting.
He is talking about the mass produced Class A’s.
They are all junk.... just watch the U-tube videos on the people who have them...
How come you didn’t add American coach to that video