That was a great review, I had no idea this power station was available - thanks for sharing. For those questioning purchase of this setup due to the price, the decision is individual and situation dependent. The power pack is pricey but Shawn explained very well several great advantages and potential positive impacts for his situation. He can: select or vie for booth locations with more or better traffic; eliminate demonstration downtime due to tripped circuits; continue "audience participation" sessions and continue creating; continue working when gas generators are an issue; continue demos when indoor electric hookups are unavailable, non-existent; avoid additional fees for electric service; etc. Each of his well defined points and more, increase the probability of sales and overall profitability. It may take some time but the potential for Increased sales will help recover expended funds sooner. Shawn in prior videos, and other crafters, have stressed the importance of demonstrating a process/technique/project to draw public interest and participation - this tool helps keeps that concept alive. For his situation and the environments he operates in, I think Shawn made a smart choice.
I had all the Dewalt batteries this powerstation could use so I got the powerstation about a year ago. Since then this thing has been really helpful. It kept my fridge powered for a few days, on two separate power outages we had. Additionally, I use it in the garage for tools needing power when I didn't have additional outlets since my garage is old and poorly setup for power. It's expensive, but it comes in handy for me without a doubt.
Interesting demo, lots of food for thought. Good job in showing workshop test and actual market test. Not sure why some comments are throwing up car, marine or leisure batteries. These batteries may be cheaper but they are so heavy and suffer from "memory" loss if not charged/discharged properly. I like the idea of using the batteries individually for cordless tools but I couldn't afford to change all my tools to one manufacturer even though I hate having 3 different batteries & chargers .... why can't they standardise? yes I know it's money/market/competition/dominance .... but in my dreams it would be nice. I like the idea of this power station, I can see why others use batteries and converters. A very personal choice like most tools, down to preference, budget, weight, convenience, performance & flexibility all in no order of priority and loads more considerations.
I run mine with the new 12 amps flexvolt batteries and it runs my 110v mig welder at 60 amps for about 2 hours on and off, my mini fridge for 8 hours and my house full size fridge for 4. Just so people have an idea how good is this in an emergency, camping or working in a remote area. As long as you get the big 12 amps batteries you are good to go.
Everett Tice they are pricey as heck but well worth it if you are using a high draw item like I use my mig welder for remote welding and is fantastic. My whole set up ran about $1300. The only downside is that is not pure sine wave but so far I haven’t had any issues since I run the welder once in a while for the past 3 years. You can get the EGO which is pure sine for a little bit more Money. I would of bought it but at the time this was the only battery power station and since I have dewalt tools , this made more sense to me. As far as the price keep looking for them on eBay every day and once in a while you’ll have a seller that will sell them under $ 250 a piece.
@@mega-hb4re my setup of power station, 4 6ah, 4 flex 6ah, & 4 flex 9ah batteries cost me about $1100. Plus I have many dewalt tools and other batteries so I can wait until the price drops on the 12an.
This thing is so cool. I work commercial construction. We have door guys that come in and have to weld door frames all over the jobsite. They use a small welder and a power station to stay mobile and avoid having to run drop cords all over. Very cool!
Thanks for the review, I know you don't normally review equipment, which is why I stopped in my tracks and had to take a look. I can think of many situations where something this compact and easy to move around would be very useful. Thanks for sharing!
I really like my DeWalt Power Station. When I first got it over a year ago. I put a plug end on my furnace. I plugged my furnace into the DeWalt Power Station. I only have 5AH batteries. So I put a timer on my phone. It was 20° below zero, Fahrenheit that night. I have a two bedroom home. The DeWalt Power Station ran my furnace for 10 hours and 7 minutes!! At that time the Power Station was just beeping every 30 seconds, like you showed. I use it when my power goes out. As a generator. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it!!
I just wanted to say thank you because hopefully next summer I’ll be doing the same thing and I have asked about running a generator and I was told like you that at some I wouldn’t be allowed to and at others like you said it would limit where I could set up. This would definitely make it easier to set up wherever I want
AC power has a sine wave pattern. That is what the lathe would use. The batteries would be giving DC power, which is why the tool has to make a “modified sine wave” to power the lathe. You talked about the batteries having an adapter for USB, those would give DC electricity, which does not have a sine wave pattern.
A lone conditioner would solve the problem of clean sine waves.. there available on eBay / Amazon from Tripp-lite @ $100 - 185 for 1000w or 1800w respectively..
Good information. Thanks for taking your time to run the experiment and then real world experience. As always love the videos and keep up the good work.
There is a line conditioner you can buy that plugs into the device and it makes it pure sine wave power so it won't damage sensitive electronic equipment.
That's awesome and your right to is a real game changer. I have had the same issues with running a scroll saw and if this can perform in a similar fashion with it, the sky is the limit. Thanks for the fantastic info!
Steve Hasebroock Hi Steve what battery’s have you got for the inverter and what have you used it for sure people would love to know wouth run times etc
Question about performance. I am building out a food truck with limited power, id only have a hot plate, a water pump, a hot water heater and some lights. The only piece of equipment that id expect to have on continuously would be the hot plate and the lights. The pump and got water heater wouldn't get used as much.
Hey sean, I was so impressed with this video I went out and bought the exact same thing, exact same batteries. And now that I have it, I'm thinking of more and more uses for it, like my out my my electric lawn mower for example. I'm really curious what your experience was using the smaller batteries at the farmers markets. Would you give us either an update in in the comments or an updated video on how it worked out when you went out to the farmers market with the smaller batteries? I really appreciate this video, very helpful and practical.
I have same Dewalt powerstation but we have 220v output in UAE so i use a transformer on it to convert 220v to110v when i charge my batterys and converts 110v to 220v when i use it out side and it work verey good im happy with it .. soon ill make a video abut it how to convert 220v to 110v and vice versa thank you 😊😊
You look completely different at a market vs here in your shop. :) I'm not surprised that it lasted as long as it did. I assumed, as you were doing your test, that you don't run the lathe 100% of the time. I figured you'd stop and go here and there, talk to people, make sales, etc. Glad it worked out for you and thanks for the info.
Ya, not for everyone but for what I do... Plus if you're working a jobsite and don't want to invest in cordless for miter saw, table saw, etc... I could see it saving money there in cordless tool alternatives.
Only 3.2 amps?! Damn son! That thing is efficient! My harbor freight miter saw draws a little over 15 amps on start up. Turns off the lights in the basement for a bit.
Great information. I haven't done many markets where I had to provide power for the generator reason. This looks like it would be a fantastic option for any kind of craft market. The sound of a lathe or any tool always attracts attention and being able to run it like this is Fantastic. Thanks
So, I would make a new quick change mount for the mains motor, and then get a brushless DC motor of the same capacity to switch out for the off-site excursions. Rather than an inefficient inverter and poor sine simulation. You would get much better W/Hr conversion and probably use less batteries. Quite interested to do a comparative test.
If you were to add indoor fairs to your places that you set up, would you also have to add dust collection to your booth? How much equipment and power would that add?
Dude....you are THE MAN!!! AWESOME review. You answered every question I had about this unit. I am now sold on it. I will be running 4- 8ah XR batts on it. My only fear is the modified sinewave issue. I REALLY want to run my laptop off of this puppy, but I definitely do not want to risk damaging my laptop until I know for sure it can be used safely with this product. I heard you say you do not reccomend using electronic or smart devices on it for this very reason (modified sinewave etc). But I'm wondering now if someone like you has tried it and had any success. I also wonder how long they could run one with a 17" screen running basic programs and maybe surfing the web or using Facebook and checking emails etc. continuously... say, using 4 - 8 or 9ah XR MAX Li-on batts. Have you heard or seen anyone try it? I'm sure the run time could be calculated (roughly) using a simple formula or equation, plugging in a few known variables like average power draw per hour of use on a laptop, combined with the output of say 4 - fully-charged 8ah 29v Max Batts. If I could get this baby to safely power my laptop, it would be a huge game changer for me as well. Any advice or insights on this concept would be greatly appreciated from you or your viewers. Also, is the any intermediary device that can be used between the power station and my laptop to STABILIZE the sine wave thus eliminating any rush?
Sewing machine pedal on your lathe? Foot power. Hear the wood cutting, not some noise electric motor that you can't even talk over. How cool would that be! Nice video Bro.
From what I remember reading up on the battery university website, the sweet spot for lithium batteries is between 25%-75% charge. Charging above 75% stresses the batteries. So instead of doing full charge/discharge cycles, you could keep it between 25%-75% charge to maximize the service life. At least that's what I do with my phone. Dewalt might have taken that into account but I kinda doubt it as it seems higher power capacity sells better (and is more profitable) than longer service life.
Tool companies may take that into account and make "full" = 75%? I can say that I have lithium batteries from Bosh that are over 10 years old and gone through a couple of hundred charge cycles and don't show any signs of age. So whatever they are doing they are doing it right.
That's a really cool tool you ran across. Glad it works so well for you! You can also plug in a few chargers and "charge" people to charge their phones! LOL
If you use the batteries elsewhere (I.e. are invested in Dewalt tool ecosystem) then this makes sense. I love my dewalt stuff and would get this if it was 240v. If you want something with a cleaner sine-wave output then check out goalzero.com Geared for campers, their stuff ain’t cheap, but is built to last many recharges.
I know I'm late to this topic but only recently had cause to investigate this DCB1800B. I'm English and live in the US but will be returning to the UK soon. In order to avoid ditching all my DeWalt corded & cordless (20v) tools to re-purchase in the UK, this makes sense to me however, DeWalt have said it cannot be charged (the batteries in-situ) by a 240v supply (UK wall-socket) but they do sell a single charger for the 240v supply. So in my case, it would be worth buying the main DCB1800B plus a single-battery charger, just to benefit use of the generator. My question would be to ask if the unit would power the intermittent (1,800w) use of a Table-saw or Planer/Thicknesser ... Anyone have input?
hello, i am just starting to vendor at a farmers market. i need to keep my phone charged to take payments, also Christmas lights and a cash register set up. what do you suggest? also i would have to borrow or rent the power source for now
good video, i heard from somewhere that this dewalt standalone powerstation requires 4 batteries all togather, if you only use 3 batteries and it won't even work right ? thanks
You can still take those batteries back. Buy two big ones, next month buy two more, etc and you wont have to worry about them again until the batteries eventually start to fail.
They have to be in the package to return unless they're defective. Batteries are an exception in the fine print. Shoulda just been smarter in first place but I'm sure I'll find a use for them.
Don’t waste your money on this. DeWalt batteries are designed for drilling and impact wrenching a hundred times then you recharge. I have a USB adapter that uses DW batteries and it only charges my phone a couple of times If you want AC power buy a Honda EU 2200 It gives pure sine wave The DW costs almost as much when you include the pricey batteries
Reading some of the posts... Lead acid batteries are not good options for this kind of device. They do not like putting out a lot of power and they do not like big power cycles, and they weigh a ton. Lithium is the chemistry of choice for big power draws, and why all portable tools (except bargain basement no-names) use lithium batteries. he other thing is that Dewalt didn't build this for this kind of use. So yes it's pricey but it's designed for heavy contractor use and it's a four up battery charger. Basically it's a pricey battery charger than will let a contractor not have to carry around a generator for occasional 120V needs. It is pricier than a DIY box partly because it is build to take a lot of abuse. As I pointed out in another post you can duplicate the functionality of how WTE is using it for under $300. BUT you won't be able to use or charge Dewalt batteries and it won't be construction site worthy. I like the idea but I don't have any Dewalt tools (one tends to stick with one brand so you can share batteries and I ended up in the Bosch ecosystem so...) And I would be using this very much like WTE is so I will end up building on and I already have a stack of the batteries I linked to that I got for a different project, which make it very affordable. Is the Dewalt over priced? Maybe a bit but not nearly what people are assuming. You are paying for contractor grade tools that can take a WHOLE lot of abuse. I have use Dewalt tools and have liked them a lot, I just happened to end up in Bosch land and they also make very good tools. If I had a lot of Dewalt tools this would be very tempting.
Soo...just looking at pricing here. The bare tool is $450. 4 large batteries are another $500. A little extra security for the end of the day by adding. 4 set of smaller batteries will be another $200. $1,200 for this investment initially, this of course does not account for any discounts, or deals you work out with DeWalt. I dont know what the lifespan of these batteries are, but lets say replacement every two years? Replacing 4 large and 4 small battery packs will run at least $700, or $350 a year on average. The question to ask is a $1200 initial setup, and $350 annual maintenance worth the effort? Not judging or trying to talk you out of it, just sharing how I look at these things. If your sales increase significantly and you get better booth placements, then maybe. You will have to increase you sales by almost $2000 in your first year to make a reasonable ROI.
no need for the extra small batteries, so $950 initial cost and $500 for replacements when they are needed, but with the headroom he was seeing I would question the need to replace the batteries every 2 years, the honda inveter he was using costs just over $1000 (eu 2000i, eu2200i is the current model) about 1 gal gasoline per market (will do 8hrs on 1 gal), depends on the area but lets say $2.50/gal, if he does 80 market days a year that would be $200 per year for gas and yearly filters, plug, and oil ~$25 So I think it is mostly a wash between them, but edge to the batteries for the added opportunities would be curious to know if deep cycle batteries paired with a quality inveter would be a decent option as well
I think you are going to get much more than 3 years out of that especially only using that little of the battey. And with that cost opening up more opportunity for indoor is a win. In my area indoor is half the year. usually sales are smaller in those because like he said you dont get that draw in of doing something the customer can get involved in. That means more sales half the year which im sure will make more than invested. I am for sure going to be looking into this for my show use.
Really mate? A 100amp car battery with all the electronics you need to get 110v or 230v out and a box around it will cost max 300$!?! Depending on the inverter maybe a bit more. This fancy Dewalt pack like you have it will cost around 900$. Why are the 37amps so expencive?
Go3tt3rbot3 - a quick look at amazon, using his link, this unit will cost you about $400 +4 batteries (about $500). I would have to sell A LOT of woodworking items just to recoup the costs.
Correct me if I am wrong, but a car battery is not designed to run down low, where as these batteries are? ... these batteries will also charge up much faster, are much lighter and will probably have a longer life span.
Just picked up a two pack of 9ah batteries for $203 from CPO. Got the deal from toolboss44 channel, have saved some major coin watching his deals. That's the cheapest I have seen the batteries ever, they have the 2020 date on them as well. The deal may be over, but watch his channel for the next sale. I now have four 9ah batteries as well.
@@wortheffort you're such an idiot. Try looking up COO of things online. It's very hit or miss. I've even went through the trouble of blowing up pictures to get a look at the side of this thing.
And you're lazy. Difference is you provided proof of my insult. Asking someone else to do basic research you were able to do yourself in a few minutes.
@@wortheffort Bro, he made an entire video about it, it is a simple nicety that I only hoped he would extend, and one that I am POSITIVE you would never consider. Error number one. You believe you know how much time I have spent trying to get this info. Error number two, you lash out for no good reason. Error three, you believe you have a handle on how easy that info is to get. Quit being a big turd in the punch bowl.
@@chadparker8198 Bro, the "he" who made the video is the one you're talking two. Kinda obvious with my user name. And the whole damn channel is about teaching. What teacher in the world would get the answer for a student who could simple figure it out for themselves so easily. Took me 30 seconds via google images to find a picture of the box it came in and read what was on it. Info is likely also on the dewalt site and probably Amazon. Worse case scenario on the next visit to the big box store look at it. You still need me to google it for you? But I'll give you a hint. If they aren't actually advertising "Made in USA" in some kind of sticker on the actual machine.... So to address your errors: One - learn to use search engines better (you'll gain a lot more than just this search if you did). Two: I damn sure did have a good reason to lash out to a grown adult calling me an idiot. Three: Once again, an insult with nothing to justify it. So Chad, grow up and figure it out.
Completely agree Lithium is the way to go, there is a reason electric cars use lithium and weight is only a small part. Lead acid is not a great choice for powering stuff with big draws.
That was a great review, I had no idea this power station was available - thanks for sharing. For those questioning purchase of this setup due to the price, the decision is individual and situation dependent. The power pack is pricey but Shawn explained very well several great advantages and potential positive impacts for his situation. He can: select or vie for booth locations with more or better traffic; eliminate demonstration downtime due to tripped circuits; continue "audience participation" sessions and continue creating; continue working when gas generators are an issue; continue demos when indoor electric hookups are unavailable, non-existent; avoid additional fees for electric service; etc. Each of his well defined points and more, increase the probability of sales and overall profitability. It may take some time but the potential for Increased sales will help recover expended funds sooner. Shawn in prior videos, and other crafters, have stressed the importance of demonstrating a process/technique/project to draw public interest and participation - this tool helps keeps that concept alive. For his situation and the environments he operates in, I think Shawn made a smart choice.
I had all the Dewalt batteries this powerstation could use so I got the powerstation about a year ago. Since then this thing has been really helpful. It kept my fridge powered for a few days, on two separate power outages we had. Additionally, I use it in the garage for tools needing power when I didn't have additional outlets since my garage is old and poorly setup for power. It's expensive, but it comes in handy for me without a doubt.
Interesting demo, lots of food for thought. Good job in showing workshop test and actual market test. Not sure why some comments are throwing up car, marine or leisure batteries. These batteries may be cheaper but they are so heavy and suffer from "memory" loss if not charged/discharged properly. I like the idea of using the batteries individually for cordless tools but I couldn't afford to change all my tools to one manufacturer even though I hate having 3 different batteries & chargers .... why can't they standardise? yes I know it's money/market/competition/dominance .... but in my dreams it would be nice. I like the idea of this power station, I can see why others use batteries and converters. A very personal choice like most tools, down to preference, budget, weight, convenience, performance & flexibility all in no order of priority and loads more considerations.
I run mine with the new 12 amps flexvolt batteries and it runs my 110v mig welder at 60 amps for about 2 hours on and off, my mini fridge for 8 hours and my house full size fridge for 4. Just so people have an idea how good is this in an emergency, camping or working in a remote area. As long as you get the big 12 amps batteries you are good to go.
Would love to get some 12ah batteries but I have plenty batteries right now up to 9ah. Waiting for the right price!
Everett Tice they are pricey as heck but well worth it if you are using a high draw item like I use my mig welder for remote welding and is fantastic. My whole set up ran about $1300. The only downside is that is not pure sine wave but so far I haven’t had any issues since I run the welder once in a while for the past 3 years. You can get the EGO which is pure sine for a little bit more Money. I would of bought it but at the time this was the only battery power station and since I have dewalt tools , this made more sense to me. As far as the price keep looking for them on eBay every day and once in a while you’ll have a seller that will sell them under $ 250 a piece.
@@mega-hb4re my setup of power station, 4 6ah, 4 flex 6ah, & 4 flex 9ah batteries cost me about $1100. Plus I have many dewalt tools and other batteries so I can wait until the price drops on the 12an.
This thing is so cool. I work commercial construction. We have door guys that come in and have to weld door frames all over the jobsite. They use a small welder and a power station to stay mobile and avoid having to run drop cords all over. Very cool!
good use
Thanks for the review, I know you don't normally review equipment, which is why I stopped in my tracks and had to take a look. I can think of many situations where something this compact and easy to move around would be very useful. Thanks for sharing!
I really like my DeWalt Power Station. When I first got it over a year ago. I put a plug end on my furnace. I plugged my furnace into the DeWalt Power Station. I only have 5AH batteries. So I put a timer on my phone. It was 20° below zero, Fahrenheit that night. I have a two bedroom home. The DeWalt Power Station ran my furnace for 10 hours and 7 minutes!! At that time the Power Station was just beeping every 30 seconds, like you showed. I use it when my power goes out. As a generator. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it!!
How many watts is the furnace?
I just wanted to say thank you because hopefully next summer I’ll be doing the same thing and I have asked about running a generator and I was told like you that at some I wouldn’t be allowed to and at others like you said it would limit where I could set up. This would definitely make it easier to set up wherever I want
Ya, markets are little phefodomes.
AC power has a sine wave pattern. That is what the lathe would use. The batteries would be giving DC power, which is why the tool has to make a “modified sine wave” to power the lathe.
You talked about the batteries having an adapter for USB, those would give DC electricity, which does not have a sine wave pattern.
Dennis Sosnovske thanks for clarification.
A lone conditioner would solve the problem of clean sine waves.. there available on eBay / Amazon from Tripp-lite @ $100 - 185 for 1000w or 1800w respectively..
I love it and now I want one ... and one of your Bodark Mallets! Great content and I appreciate your humble style in presenting to us rookies!
Thanks
I have this set up with 6ah batteries. I used it to hook up my leaf mulcher in the yard. Worked nicely instead of running a 100' extension cable.
Velcro backpack and take it with.
It’s great seeing real world testing of products. Maybe Dewalt will send you that 2nd powerstation for free for your effort!
Turnings by Turner this was just a trial one. It’s not a keeper.
Got confused on your text from your Dad statement, saying sell our generator and buy another one of these. Hope it all works out.
Good demo, nice video. Thanks for showing the power station in a real life situation.
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Good information. Thanks for taking your time to run the experiment and then real world experience.
As always love the videos and keep up the good work.
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There is a line conditioner you can buy that plugs into the device and it makes it pure sine wave power so it won't damage sensitive electronic equipment.
That's awesome and your right to is a real game changer. I have had the same issues with running a scroll saw and if this can perform in a similar fashion with it, the sky is the limit.
Thanks for the fantastic info!
and the scroll you could use the smaller batteries.
Had no idea these babies would run so long, that's amazing. Pricey though! 😎
about like a generator.
Have the same unit and love it!!!
Steve Hasebroock
Hi Steve what battery’s have you got for the inverter and what have you used it for sure people would love to know wouth run times etc
You always have amazing content, this is thoughtful and highly relevant.
Thanks
Question about performance.
I am building out a food truck with limited power, id only have a hot plate, a water pump, a hot water heater and some lights.
The only piece of equipment that id expect to have on continuously would be the hot plate and the lights. The pump and got water heater wouldn't get used as much.
Do the math. Watts and time.
Hey sean, I was so impressed with this video I went out and bought the exact same thing, exact same batteries. And now that I have it, I'm thinking of more and more uses for it, like my out my my electric lawn mower for example. I'm really curious what your experience was using the smaller batteries at the farmers markets. Would you give us either an update in in the comments or an updated video on how it worked out when you went out to the farmers market with the smaller batteries? I really appreciate this video, very helpful and practical.
I couldn’t tell any difference with smaller. Just used more bars.
@@wortheffort did it get you through the whole day?
This could be the future. Jet
should be watching this video. A portable Lathe with battery pack .. Cool
I have same Dewalt powerstation but we have 220v output in UAE so i use a transformer on it to convert 220v to110v when i charge my batterys and converts 110v to 220v when i use it out side and it work verey good im happy with it .. soon ill make a video abut it how to convert 220v to 110v and vice versa thank you 😊😊
Amazing piece of kit
It's been working very well these past months.
You look completely different at a market vs here in your shop. :) I'm not surprised that it lasted as long as it did. I assumed, as you were doing your test, that you don't run the lathe 100% of the time. I figured you'd stop and go here and there, talk to people, make sales, etc. Glad it worked out for you and thanks for the info.
That was his Dad at the market!
@@johnfromnewjersey9720 obviously, that's why the smiley face after the sentence.
Sun ages.
@@wortheffort "Son ages"
A very interesting option. I can see where it would be helpful for your situation.
Ya, not for everyone but for what I do... Plus if you're working a jobsite and don't want to invest in cordless for miter saw, table saw, etc... I could see it saving money there in cordless tool alternatives.
Great idea Shawn.
Thanks
Great video . Thank you very much .
Only 3.2 amps?! Damn son! That thing is efficient! My harbor freight miter saw draws a little over 15 amps on start up. Turns off the lights in the basement for a bit.
what badge said.
Great information. I haven't done many markets where I had to provide power for the generator reason. This looks like it would be a fantastic option for any kind of craft market. The sound of a lathe or any tool always attracts attention and being able to run it like this is Fantastic. Thanks
That’s a pretty cool product from dewalt. Also if you’re already in the dewalt line having extra batteries is always a good thing
Ya, bc the unit itself goes on sale occasionally.
So, I would make a new quick change mount for the mains motor, and then get a brushless DC motor of the same capacity to switch out for the off-site excursions. Rather than an inefficient inverter and poor sine simulation. You would get much better W/Hr conversion and probably use less batteries. Quite interested to do a comparative test.
Great video , how many watts the tool you use in market use?
If you were to add indoor fairs to your places that you set up, would you also have to add dust collection to your booth?
How much equipment and power would that add?
I make shavings not dust. I never sand at these events.
Running wide open is not a very good test since there is no load on the motor, it runs at low amps and current flow, try loading it down
HoppersLab I know, I mentioned that.
That is true, but since he also ran it at a fair, that was the test that counted.
Dude you look so much older outside of your shop........ Merry Christmas to all of your familia
yep
Nice review! Those dewalt 3ah batteries have the 21700 cells. Those should be adequate for your application
they worked.
You can buy 12 ah flexvolt batteries as well.
Dude....you are THE MAN!!! AWESOME review. You answered every question I had about this unit. I am now sold on it. I will be running 4- 8ah XR batts on it. My only fear is the modified sinewave issue. I REALLY want to run my laptop off of this puppy, but I definitely do not want to risk damaging my laptop until I know for sure it can be used safely with this product. I heard you say you do not reccomend using electronic or smart devices on it for this very reason (modified sinewave etc). But I'm wondering now if someone like you has tried it and had any success. I also wonder how long they could run one with a 17" screen running basic programs and maybe surfing the web or using Facebook and checking emails etc. continuously... say, using 4 - 8 or 9ah XR MAX Li-on batts. Have you heard or seen anyone try it? I'm sure the run time could be calculated (roughly) using a simple formula or equation, plugging in a few known variables like average power draw per hour of use on a laptop, combined with the output of say 4 - fully-charged 8ah 29v Max Batts. If I could get this baby to safely power my laptop, it would be a huge game changer for me as well. Any advice or insights on this concept would be greatly appreciated from you or your viewers. Also, is the any intermediary device that can be used between the power station and my laptop to STABILIZE the sine wave thus eliminating any rush?
Thanks;, you'll have to investigate that.
Sewing machine pedal on your lathe? Foot power. Hear the wood cutting, not some noise electric motor that you can't even talk over. How cool would that be! Nice video Bro.
John Stuart lathe motors are quiet. If they’re noisy something is wrong.
awesome review and great real world test!!
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Great review really helpful 👍
Good vid bro 💪🏻
Good show , Have Happy holidays With health and wealth
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Awesome 👍 video bra thank you,and much appreciated 👍
From what I remember reading up on the battery university website, the sweet spot for lithium batteries is between 25%-75% charge. Charging above 75% stresses the batteries. So instead of doing full charge/discharge cycles, you could keep it between 25%-75% charge to maximize the service life. At least that's what I do with my phone. Dewalt might have taken that into account but I kinda doubt it as it seems higher power capacity sells better (and is more profitable) than longer service life.
Tool companies may take that into account and make "full" = 75%? I can say that I have lithium batteries from Bosh that are over 10 years old and gone through a couple of hundred charge cycles and don't show any signs of age. So whatever they are doing they are doing it right.
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That's a really cool tool you ran across. Glad it works so well for you! You can also plug in a few chargers and "charge" people to charge their phones! LOL
David Gagnon no you can’t. Digital sine wave will destroy their batteries. Explained in video.
If you use the batteries elsewhere (I.e. are invested in Dewalt tool ecosystem) then this makes sense. I love my dewalt stuff and would get this if it was 240v.
If you want something with a cleaner sine-wave output then check out goalzero.com
Geared for campers, their stuff ain’t cheap, but is built to last many recharges.
I know I'm late to this topic but only recently had cause to investigate this DCB1800B.
I'm English and live in the US but will be returning to the UK soon. In order to avoid ditching all my DeWalt corded & cordless (20v) tools to re-purchase in the UK, this makes sense to me however, DeWalt have said it cannot be charged (the batteries in-situ) by a 240v supply (UK wall-socket) but they do sell a single charger for the 240v supply.
So in my case, it would be worth buying the main DCB1800B plus a single-battery charger, just to benefit use of the generator.
My question would be to ask if the unit would power the intermittent (1,800w) use of a Table-saw or Planer/Thicknesser ... Anyone have input?
This is awesome, thanks for sharing
hello, i am just starting to vendor at a farmers market. i need to keep my phone charged to take payments, also Christmas lights and a cash register set up. what do you suggest? also i would have to borrow or rent the power source for now
Very cool. Does it have any fan noise / hum?
Also, what lathe do you have?
Outside I can't hear it. Inside when charging you can.
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Get a set of 4 of the new 12.0 amp hour batteries
Nice video,,,I am not into dewalt tools,,,I do love my ego power station,,,thanks for this video,,,go battery power
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Good information... Thanks.
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Do shows have a problem with the shavings from the lathe making a mess? Do you normally vacuum or sweep them up at the end of the day?
Some do, I pick up. Leave no trace.
good video, i heard from somewhere that this dewalt standalone powerstation requires 4 batteries all togather, if you only use 3 batteries and it won't even work right ? thanks
Yep, needs 4 and only last to smallest ah as drains em equally.
Good job @ this review
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Nice I need that
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How is it on led lights, like grow lights pulling 275 watts, how long would it last?
I don't have the capital to buy that kind of stuff to test out for you. I suggest you look up power draws and do the math.
Isn't there a modified sine wave to pure sine wave converter?
dunno.
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I have heard is power station is modified sine waves.. It's bad for electronics.
You can still take those batteries back. Buy two big ones, next month buy two more, etc and you wont have to worry about them again until the batteries eventually start to fail.
They have to be in the package to return unless they're defective. Batteries are an exception in the fine print. Shoulda just been smarter in first place but I'm sure I'll find a use for them.
Don’t waste your money on this. DeWalt batteries are designed for drilling and impact wrenching a hundred times then you recharge. I have a USB adapter that uses DW batteries and it only charges my phone a couple of times
If you want AC power buy a Honda EU 2200
It gives pure sine wave
The DW costs almost as much when you include the pricey batteries
ShakespeareCafe you didn’t watch video.
Reading some of the posts...
Lead acid batteries are not good options for this kind of device. They do not like putting out a lot of power and they do not like big power cycles, and they weigh a ton. Lithium is the chemistry of choice for big power draws, and why all portable tools (except bargain basement no-names) use lithium batteries.
he other thing is that Dewalt didn't build this for this kind of use. So yes it's pricey but it's designed for heavy contractor use and it's a four up battery charger. Basically it's a pricey battery charger than will let a contractor not have to carry around a generator for occasional 120V needs. It is pricier than a DIY box partly because it is build to take a lot of abuse.
As I pointed out in another post you can duplicate the functionality of how WTE is using it for under $300. BUT you won't be able to use or charge Dewalt batteries and it won't be construction site worthy.
I like the idea but I don't have any Dewalt tools (one tends to stick with one brand so you can share batteries and I ended up in the Bosch ecosystem so...) And I would be using this very much like WTE is so I will end up building on and I already have a stack of the batteries I linked to that I got for a different project, which make it very affordable.
Is the Dewalt over priced? Maybe a bit but not nearly what people are assuming. You are paying for contractor grade tools that can take a WHOLE lot of abuse. I have use Dewalt tools and have liked them a lot, I just happened to end up in Bosch land and they also make very good tools. If I had a lot of Dewalt tools this would be very tempting.
thanks for clarification.
Soo...just looking at pricing here. The bare tool is $450. 4 large batteries are another $500. A little extra security for the end of the day by adding. 4 set of smaller batteries will be another $200. $1,200 for this investment initially, this of course does not account for any discounts, or deals you work out with DeWalt. I dont know what the lifespan of these batteries are, but lets say replacement every two years? Replacing 4 large and 4 small battery packs will run at least $700, or $350 a year on average. The question to ask is a $1200 initial setup, and $350 annual maintenance worth the effort? Not judging or trying to talk you out of it, just sharing how I look at these things. If your sales increase significantly and you get better booth placements, then maybe. You will have to increase you sales by almost $2000 in your first year to make a reasonable ROI.
no need for the extra small batteries, so $950 initial cost
and $500 for replacements when they are needed,
but with the headroom he was seeing I would question the need to replace the batteries every 2 years,
the honda inveter he was using costs just over $1000 (eu 2000i, eu2200i is the current model)
about 1 gal gasoline per market (will do 8hrs on 1 gal), depends on the area but lets say $2.50/gal,
if he does 80 market days a year that would be $200 per year for gas
and yearly filters, plug, and oil ~$25
So I think it is mostly a wash between them, but edge to the batteries for the added opportunities
would be curious to know if deep cycle batteries paired with a quality inveter would be a decent option as well
David these kits go on sale a lot. Keep your eyes open and use batteries you already have and I bet you could set up for $300 or so.
I think you are going to get much more than 3 years out of that especially only using that little of the battey. And with that cost opening up more opportunity for indoor is a win. In my area indoor is half the year. usually sales are smaller in those because like he said you dont get that draw in of doing something the customer can get involved in. That means more sales half the year which im sure will make more than invested. I am for sure going to be looking into this for my show use.
@@joshreed1216 Interesting. Im hoping the same holds true for him. Just have to look at the numbers on a case by case basis.
@@wortheffort $300 for the set, batteries and charger? That is a significant discount.
Really mate? A 100amp car battery with all the electronics you need to get 110v or 230v out and a box around it will cost max 300$!?! Depending on the inverter maybe a bit more. This fancy Dewalt pack like you have it will cost around 900$. Why are the 37amps so expencive?
Yes, I was wondering the same thing.
Go3tt3rbot3 - a quick look at amazon, using his link, this unit will cost you about $400 +4 batteries (about $500). I would have to sell A LOT of woodworking items just to recoup the costs.
Correct me if I am wrong, but a car battery is not designed to run down low, where as these batteries are? ... these batteries will also charge up much faster, are much lighter and will probably have a longer life span.
NAVRET sell 2 nice bowls to the parents of kids whom you captured and there ya go.
Go3tt3rbot3 lots of people already have 20v batteries and this unit goes on sale occasionally.
Just picked up a two pack of 9ah batteries for $203 from CPO. Got the deal from toolboss44 channel, have saved some major coin watching his deals. That's the cheapest I have seen the batteries ever, they have the 2020 date on them as well. The deal may be over, but watch his channel for the next sale. I now have four 9ah batteries as well.
good find.
I want to buy a top too!😭
I have them available on my website wortheffort dot com in the store.
Hey brother, is this made in China?
Look it up.
@@wortheffort you're such an idiot. Try looking up COO of things online. It's very hit or miss. I've even went through the trouble of blowing up pictures to get a look at the side of this thing.
And you're lazy. Difference is you provided proof of my insult. Asking someone else to do basic research you were able to do yourself in a few minutes.
@@wortheffort Bro, he made an entire video about it, it is a simple nicety that I only hoped he would extend, and one that I am POSITIVE you would never consider. Error number one. You believe you know how much time I have spent trying to get this info. Error number two, you lash out for no good reason. Error three, you believe you have a handle on how easy that info is to get. Quit being a big turd in the punch bowl.
@@chadparker8198 Bro, the "he" who made the video is the one you're talking two. Kinda obvious with my user name. And the whole damn channel is about teaching. What teacher in the world would get the answer for a student who could simple figure it out for themselves so easily. Took me 30 seconds via google images to find a picture of the box it came in and read what was on it. Info is likely also on the dewalt site and probably Amazon. Worse case scenario on the next visit to the big box store look at it. You still need me to google it for you? But I'll give you a hint. If they aren't actually advertising "Made in USA" in some kind of sticker on the actual machine.... So to address your errors: One - learn to use search engines better (you'll gain a lot more than just this search if you did). Two: I damn sure did have a good reason to lash out to a grown adult calling me an idiot. Three: Once again, an insult with nothing to justify it. So Chad, grow up and figure it out.
marine batteries and a 1500 watt sine wave inverter will blow this away in price and longevity
This whole thing is like 20lbs and can be positioned any way and bounce around. Lead acid batteries....
Completely agree Lithium is the way to go, there is a reason electric cars use lithium and weight is only a small part. Lead acid is not a great choice for powering stuff with big draws.