Miserable Git Don't be soft? Give me a break. Battle rap now is weak. All it is is gun bars, and doing stupid shit like punching each other. It's lost so much of it's flair. This was back in the days when freestyling was valued as was creativity.
Eziokilla9595 I'm sick of hearing comments like this. Yeah, there are a lot of gun bars, but there are plenty of DOPE rappers who don't solely rely on gun bars. And yeah... you can literally, in the history of battle rap, count on one hand the times a rapper got punched in a battle, so that part is also invalid.
I still regard this as the best battle of all time. The jokes, the personals, the references... this battle had it all and it lived up to the hype. Not to mention , there aren't a ton of battles from this time period that stand the test of time like this one. It still sounds as good today as some of the newer shit we here. Illmac won it, but the bars Thesaurus came with would have won 90% of other battles. Also, despite the OT being the most memorable round for "That was me!", Illmac's second is definitely his best and most replayable.
the greatest, most respected battle of our time between 2 legends which defines what it takes to be an mc, an artist. holds projection, energy, lyricism and rebuttals and personals of a high level.
They were a duo in WRC, they separated obviously during GT era... So they battled here. (it's something everybody wanted to see, two legends go at it) Everybody wanted to hear them come back again, so they did 2 on 2's in written format. Every so often they will.
"We met in 2005,06 and 07,that was a mountain to climb. it's been 2 years since then,i put 3 projects out in that time. do the math bitch it's 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine" That punchline was SICK.
It is pretty crazy this battle only has 650k views and its been out since 2009. If you don't know the history between these 2 then it takes away slightly but battle wise for history this is def a top 10 battle if not top 5
boogie504 Haha straight up man, depends on the person though. Cass was gassed UP, through the roof. Unfortunately some people do get away with that shit. Example: Pat Stay, Math Hoffa, Cassidy, etc.
il100374 agreed but you gotta have a good medium between the 2. sometimes dudes be saying shit thats way over peoples heads and get silence. gotta think of the audience and make sure they get most of what you're saying. thats why i love daylyt...he has a good mix of that shit!
il100374 fool.. this shit better then anything nowwadayz, fuck all y'all schemes an months of preparation an twenty minute rounds y'all new generation cats fucked the game up in all ways, this is the shit. fuck u.
that intro song is called "I'm Grindin" by thesaurus, chase moore & okwerdz. and the beat was made by chase moore. its on that album that plex and lush were hyping b4 the battle called Fresh Coast Non-perishables Volume 1. its a great song and besides a couple low points that album its really good too
Can''t believe what i just heard. This is some real shit! That personal stuff beautifully crafted and hit hardcore! Definitely one of my favourites now.
Saurus' tick-tock nursery flow was hard to listen to. The punches were there but eventually the corniness just eclipsed everything else by the middle of the 2nd round. Mac 3-1.
Lord Leo so wrong on so many levels. This should of been a tied battle after overtime. Thesaurus had better delivery, better personal jokes and better flow/rhymes. Illmaculate had better personals in general, but had horrible delivery, and really bad rhyme schemes. 1/2 of his shit didn't even rhyme throughout the battle and if you can't keep a good rhyme schemes, back out of the battle. It was just overshadowed by his enormous personals.
@SuperBuckofama i think most of thesaurus' bars were so abstractly rhymed that most people didnt catch them, he was rhyming up to 13 syllables at the beginning and there was like no filler, and that shit was like all true. Both of them had very little filler, IMO Saurus only lost OT because it was mostly jokes
Personally, I feel The Saurus won. I liked Illmac's personals but everyone over-shadowed the personal jokes that came from The Saurus. The WRC punchline regarding him saving Illmac is so true. And that Michael Jordan line was absolutely sick. All-in-all, best battle I've ever seen and both dudes killed it.
OMG....How come Im just seeing this... Men I liked how these Cats ripped the WRC back in 06..But I never pictured them battling each other..this is sick.. Yo Illmaculate went hard too...
Best duo in battling history for sure Im a fan of both... Thesaurus was not ready tho. Illmac took both these rounds. "Its 2009 and u still havent been on an album of mine." That shit was bananas.
fucking brilliant thesaurus's opening round, illmac's rebuttals, everything here is just the epitome of quality battle rap on the whole fam we need to revive this shit
best battle I've ever seeen !!! that personal stuff is so raw!! "its been 2 years since then, I put 3 projects out in that time do the math bi***, its 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine"
Hahaha, cheers;) on a serious note, I've had a lot of fun talking to you mate. I like a good trolling match, but most folk crumble after 2 messagesXD I respect the fact that you never give up.
@61n9ner there is ceos of grind time, madd illz, lush one, drect, there is a lot of different sponsors, advertised in logos and promos before and after the battle
Illmac/The Saurus/Real Deal/Soul Khan/Dizaster/Hollow/Conceited...any time any of these battle each it is sick.....Soul Khan VS Con wuld b CRAZY, Hollow VS Diz too
@TouchMulaGANG It's different in the prewritten battles. Thesaurus built his legacy on the "off the top" battles. He's won pretty much every major championship twice, and the sheer VOLUME of multis he uses made everybody else change the way they approach battles. He set the standard, and everyone else is just improving on it. Think of it like MMA. Royce Gracie beat pretty much everybody for years. But now that people know HOW he won, they can improve on it themselves.
It started as block parties in the Bronx and was created by various DJs and emcees but Kool Herc is generally given the most credit. Do you mean first recorded rap or first ACTUAL emcee crew?
@PRtoRP this is probably the best battle along with loaded lux vs murda mook i can't tell because the time and era and style and flavor are like exact opposites
Damn these niggas went at it,close rounds man,part 1 of 3 I give to Illmaculate,only because the way he put it all together at the end,won my vote !! Thesaurus is good too!!
@xIJOS3RAMOSIx THANK YOUUUU! The' took this by a hair but it was still a win. He came with personals every round. The 2nd round MJ haymaker was just as devestating as Macs. Thing is Mac came for blood, let the audience soak up every punch, while The' kept going.
@YessMattiBoi who is possesed this is illmaculate vs thesaurus . . . and there are 2 different types of freestyle 1 is without beat or chorus and the other is improvised or off the top of the head. and it also doesnt say freestyle battle . . .
While everyone in their right mind knows that Illmaculate clearly won this battle, I'll give Thesaurus a lot of credit here. He had a lot of great bars, and I think that his lyricism soared over Illmaculate's in this battle, and was heavily slept on. Listen to the first round and all of the 5-6 syllable end rhyme multis. The only person I've seen come close to that is Bender, once, and Thesaurus does stuff like this all the time. However, personals outweight lyrics and jokes. Best Battle Ever.
this was when GT was on top.. everything abt this event was to sick.. great battles... great venue.. great crowd (unlike those url crowds today)... and tbh, lush uno was the best host ever..
It's ridiculous that this battle hasn't crossed a million yet! This is one of the greatest battles of all time!!!! WTF?!?!?!
+nmryda man i was thinking the exact same thing, then saw your post
+rcronico1 the first part at least should have crossed a mill. dunno why it's broken up
Mr. Thunder It's broken up because at the time of the battle's release, RUclips didn't allow videos longer than 10 mins.
in old youtube's defense all the vids combined has over 1.3 mil if im not mistaken
Broot but most of those are probably the same people.
RIP golden era of battle rap
+SunkenDPr0 Battle rap is still going VERY strong. You sound a lot like those people who say hip hop is dead just because Tupac and Biggie are.
It's pro era now
This was a silver era
Golden era was battle on beats and freestyle.
Real talk
Best Grind Time event ever. There were so many classics, and the crowd was nuts.
This battle has the highest amount of people covering their mouth with their hand. Classic.
and no covid yet.....magine?
Haha this battle is so personal....two good friends and even teammates.....the crowd really enjoyed it...love this battle!
And they still friends even though they did alot of personals that shows there love for the sport in my opnion
Back when battle rap was still fun.
Agreed
They call it battle rap for a reason, don't be soft
Miserable Git i'm not soft! Er, I'm not being soft with you. I'm just sayin this is a good battle, that's all
Miserable Git Don't be soft? Give me a break.
Battle rap now is weak. All it is is gun bars, and doing stupid shit like punching each other. It's lost so much of it's flair. This was back in the days when freestyling was valued as was creativity.
Eziokilla9595 I'm sick of hearing comments like this. Yeah, there are a lot of gun bars, but there are plenty of DOPE rappers who don't solely rely on gun bars. And yeah... you can literally, in the history of battle rap, count on one hand the times a rapper got punched in a battle, so that part is also invalid.
I legit can't understand why this STILL doesn't have a million views yet
STILL.......... 🤔
Thesaurus is the diction lord. His rhymes are art. Dope cat. Illmaculate is raw too but that MJ line killed em
i love this battle, one of the 1st written battles i ever saw and has always been one of my favorites and one the top 3 battles of all time
I still regard this as the best battle of all time. The jokes, the personals, the references... this battle had it all and it lived up to the hype.
Not to mention , there aren't a ton of battles from this time period that stand the test of time like this one. It still sounds as good today as some of the newer shit we here.
Illmac won it, but the bars Thesaurus came with would have won 90% of other battles. Also, despite the OT being the most memorable round for "That was me!", Illmac's second is definitely his best and most replayable.
PH in the background... RIP
This was definitely one of the best quality battles ive seen on here. Good job to both artists.
Illmac will be always the be one of the greatest of all time to me
thanks for clearly clearing that up
he will he be be will best greatest you all time... it's understandable
the greatest, most respected battle of our time between 2 legends which defines what it takes to be an mc, an artist. holds projection, energy, lyricism and rebuttals and personals of a high level.
Dizaster's reactions are priceless lmao 🤣
2024!!! still coming back to this
I just like Thesauru's style better in general. Illmac was great in this battle though.
They were a duo in WRC, they separated obviously during GT era... So they battled here. (it's something everybody wanted to see, two legends go at it) Everybody wanted to hear them come back again, so they did 2 on 2's in written format. Every so often they will.
Honestly, I think this is the best fight i've ever seen on GT
east meets west ,grew up watching classics like this what a culture ,
Who in this battle is from the east...?
that event had many battlers who came from the east
An absolute fucking classic 2 legends.
its weird how i decided to watch this exactly 3 years to the date it was uploaded
"We met in 2005,06 and 07,that was a mountain to climb.
it's been 2 years since then,i put 3 projects out in that time.
do the math bitch it's 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine"
That punchline was SICK.
That Scottie Pippen line was so hurt hurtful, but so was that Peter the sport stuff :)
"He called up crying like i gave a fuck *i didnt*."
LMFAO!
Grindtime needs to have comeback, with all the originals from back in the day battling again. siiigh, those were the good ol days
thesaurus angles was too much in this battle, classic doe
This battle is still crazy to me even after so many years. 2 legends. This was so necessary. Alot of people emulated this afterwards
"You aint rolling w crooks and thieves or pushing keys, whatever" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love that part
2009 was the pinnacle of battle rap. Legends.
That Michael Jordan Line Crushed iLLmac. .
no illmacs bars about him not being on any of his albums shut shit down lol i bet thesaurus was like damn i aint never thought about it that way
That Jordan line was crazy yo, Killed mac. Haha
Jay Bee yeah, that bar is probably the coldest one out of all the battles i watched, from then to now.
Grind Time still has the best battles
It is pretty crazy this battle only has 650k views and its been out since 2009. If you don't know the history between these 2 then it takes away slightly but battle wise for history this is def a top 10 battle if not top 5
Although this is a re-upload, I do believe it deserves multi-million views.
grind time was fresh as fuck when around the time this came out.
i haven't seen a compilation album in forever either
I don't care who won, both the best in my eyes, evil battle XD
ILLMACULATES BEST PERFORMANCE I EVER SEEN- PROPER KIDNEY SHOTS
Man the simplest rhymes made people freak out back then haha
Whatya mean, they STILL do.. Didn't you listen to Cassidy, LOL
boogie504 Haha straight up man, depends on the person though. Cass was gassed UP, through the roof. Unfortunately some people do get away with that shit. Example: Pat Stay, Math Hoffa, Cassidy, etc.
il100374 agreed but you gotta have a good medium between the 2. sometimes dudes be saying shit thats way over peoples heads and get silence. gotta think of the audience and make sure they get most of what you're saying. thats why i love daylyt...he has a good mix of that shit!
I know they didnt even spit unoriginal gun bars automatically we got 3oed
il100374 fool.. this shit better then anything nowwadayz, fuck all y'all schemes an months of preparation an twenty minute rounds y'all new generation cats fucked the game up in all ways, this is the shit. fuck u.
Intro said it all, Saurus was there to have fun. Illmac was there to show he was never in his shadow
R.I.P PH!
that intro song is called "I'm Grindin" by thesaurus, chase moore & okwerdz. and the beat was made by chase moore. its on that album that plex and lush were hyping b4 the battle called Fresh Coast Non-perishables Volume 1. its a great song and besides a couple low points that album its really good too
Wtf, Dizaster vs. Arcane has more views than this battle... Smh what has the world come to?
Bar for Bar, crowd, delivery, and presence and competatively....THE BEST BATTLE OF ALL TIME!
this was goku vs. vegeta
Can''t believe what i just heard.
This is some real shit! That personal stuff beautifully crafted and hit hardcore! Definitely one of my favourites now.
Saurus' tick-tock nursery flow was hard to listen to. The punches were there but eventually the corniness just eclipsed everything else by the middle of the 2nd round. Mac 3-1.
Lord Leo so wrong on so many levels. This should of been a tied battle after overtime. Thesaurus had better delivery, better personal jokes and better flow/rhymes. Illmaculate had better personals in general, but had horrible delivery, and really bad rhyme schemes. 1/2 of his shit didn't even rhyme throughout the battle and if you can't keep a good rhyme schemes, back out of the battle. It was just overshadowed by his enormous personals.
FlipTop - Batas vs Shernan brought me here
Illmac maybe 3-0. Jordan line was OK but Mac def got that round with that never been on an album of mine shit. Illmac Hollowman
Facts
no way, this was a robbery TheSaurus got this
Diurno MX biggest robbery. Thesaurus stay getting robbed his rebuttals alone won this. He rebuttal’d 5 bars in one round.
And their compliment battle that just dropped really brings this full circle.
This should have more than a million views.
This video needs to hit 1 million views.
one of the best battles on grind time
Very nicely put mate. You know your stuff, more so than me in fact. Salute!
@SuperBuckofama i think most of thesaurus' bars were so abstractly rhymed that most people didnt catch them, he was rhyming up to 13 syllables at the beginning and there was like no filler, and that shit was like all true. Both of them had very little filler, IMO Saurus only lost OT because it was mostly jokes
Thesaurus has gotten SO much better since his ''All I know is'' early stuff
Great verses from both of them
So classic you can't even put the shit in HD...love it.
@MrsssChuck21 If I'm not mistaken, he was 17 in '04 when he won scribble, so that would make him ~24 now
good bars are heavily sleet on, after watching this and done a lot of research, all illmac's lines (references) are done, best battle ever
Personally, I feel The Saurus won. I liked Illmac's personals but everyone over-shadowed the personal jokes that came from The Saurus. The WRC punchline regarding him saving Illmac is so true. And that Michael Jordan line was absolutely sick. All-in-all, best battle I've ever seen and both dudes killed it.
OMG....How come Im just seeing this... Men I liked how these Cats ripped the WRC back in 06..But I never pictured them battling each other..this is sick.. Yo Illmaculate went hard too...
why doesn't this have over 1,000,000 views!?! LEGENDARY BATTLE!
Best duo in battling history for sure Im a fan of both... Thesaurus was not ready tho. Illmac took both these rounds. "Its 2009 and u still havent been on an album of mine." That shit was bananas.
how the fuck is this not over 1,000,000 views? Still the best battle ive seen as far as performance from both rappers.
@bigzooka420,didn't know the title but that song was included in Illmaculate's "Police Brutality"
@GetThatDoughBoy81 was that a reference to Storm(X-men)'s claustrophobia?
fucking brilliant
thesaurus's opening round, illmac's rebuttals, everything here is just the epitome of quality battle rap
on the whole fam we need to revive this shit
One of the best battles to ever go down
This battle seemed REAL personal, For obvious reasons. Amazing shit.
this battle never gets old. my favourite battle of all time
2 legends 4 rings combined in scribble best battle of all time
best battle I've ever seeen !!! that personal stuff is so raw!!
"its been 2 years since then, I put 3 projects out in that time
do the math bi***, its 2009 and you still haven't been on an album of mine"
Best Battle of ALL TIME! i remember when i first watched it all battles after seemed weaksauce just cause the bar got set too high
Hahaha, cheers;) on a serious note, I've had a lot of fun talking to you mate. I like a good trolling match, but most folk crumble after 2 messagesXD I respect the fact that you never give up.
@61n9ner there is ceos of grind time, madd illz, lush one, drect, there is a lot of different sponsors, advertised in logos and promos before and after the battle
Illmac/The Saurus/Real Deal/Soul Khan/Dizaster/Hollow/Conceited...any time any of these battle each it is sick.....Soul Khan VS Con wuld b CRAZY, Hollow VS Diz too
@TouchMulaGANG It's different in the prewritten battles. Thesaurus built his legacy on the "off the top" battles. He's won pretty much every major championship twice, and the sheer VOLUME of multis he uses made everybody else change the way they approach battles. He set the standard, and everyone else is just improving on it.
Think of it like MMA. Royce Gracie beat pretty much everybody for years. But now that people know HOW he won, they can improve on it themselves.
Im watching this again preparing for his Bender battle. Also can't wait for KOTD Grand Prix Finals.
potentially the best back and forth battle ever
This and real deal v rugged are the best battles I've seen. But I also really like that Mac lethal v dirt bag. AND soul khan v qp.
HahahaXD I never noticed that. Nice catch lad, I hold my hands up to that one;)
That battle was crazy, both Illmaculate and TheSaurus killed it!! No doubt..
Winner: Ones again Illmaculate ....
Illmac/Saurus
Fresco/Kid Twist
Marvwon/Aye Verb
Dumb/PH
Passwurdz/Hollow
Pesci/Tantrum
This was the greatest battle event ever, RT
with all the personals, this has to be the best battle of all time
It started as block parties in the Bronx and was created by various DJs and emcees but Kool Herc is generally given the most credit. Do you mean first recorded rap or first ACTUAL emcee crew?
@joelystuber123 Yes he is..Do you even have the mixtape? His intro music is from a song on the mixtape..
@PRtoRP this is probably the best battle along with loaded lux vs murda mook i can't tell because the time and era and style and flavor are like exact opposites
@jennelyn241987 no, he's native. he says it in his battle with thesaurus vs manik and spyte
So rawr yet so tecnical f'ing love this battle... spect to both!
The grind time scene and league was really cool … wish it had become a staple
Damn these niggas went at it,close rounds man,part 1 of 3 I give to Illmaculate,only because the way he put it all together at the end,won my vote !! Thesaurus is good too!!
mos definitely one of tha sickest battles in GT history
Best grindtime battle
@xIJOS3RAMOSIx THANK YOUUUU! The' took this by a hair but it was still a win. He came with personals every round. The 2nd round MJ haymaker was just as devestating as Macs. Thing is Mac came for blood, let the audience soak up every punch, while The' kept going.
@YessMattiBoi who is possesed this is illmaculate vs thesaurus . . . and there are 2 different types of freestyle 1 is without beat or chorus and the other is improvised or off the top of the head. and it also doesnt say freestyle battle . . .
Illmac has some of the best delivery out there. Sand People is a beast group too
Nice catch either way mate.
Yes it was these 2 verse these 2 Canadian rappers and it was insane just the both teams going at each other went hard
Best battle ever right next to Hollohan vs Pat Stay imo
While everyone in their right mind knows that Illmaculate clearly won this battle, I'll give Thesaurus a lot of credit here. He had a lot of great bars, and I think that his lyricism soared over Illmaculate's in this battle, and was heavily slept on. Listen to the first round and all of the 5-6 syllable end rhyme multis. The only person I've seen come close to that is Bender, once, and Thesaurus does stuff like this all the time. However, personals outweight lyrics and jokes. Best Battle Ever.
this was when GT was on top.. everything abt this event was to sick.. great battles... great venue.. great crowd (unlike those url crowds today)... and tbh, lush uno was the best host ever..