Assuming the eBay listing is accurate, this thing ONLY has band 5 for AT&T and is missing every other AT&T band. AT&T band 5 LTE is actually unavailable in some markets and/or it's been moved entirely to 5G, giving this phone limited coverage aside from areas that have band 5 LTE, so buyer beware. With that being said, I think, personally, I'd still recommend the S22 flip over this for anyone in the U.S. or Canada, assuming good coverage is important to you.
@@devzozo Cost savings. At least in America, most people I know expect dumbphones to be dirt cheap, so the manufacturers cut corners where they can to keep the price down. Adding extra bands means a more expensive SoC and/or extra radio "equipment"/antennas. This phone, for example, is only intended to be sold in South Korea AFAIK, so why spend the extra money for proper compatibility in other countries? The only exception to this, that I am aware of, is newer Sonim phones, like the XP3Plus. It basically has every band necessary for worldwide 4G compatibility, while still being relatively competitive price-wise compared to similar phones. It's the same way with smartphones. Generally speaking, the cheap ones have limited band support, sometimes only working with a single carrier, even when unlocked. While flagship phones these days often have near-perfect worldwide 4G compatibility.
Someone needs to come out with a Japan Keitai style S22 flip in the US. Yeah it's a niche market but I think the aesthetic will gain enough traction on TikTok if they market it right
@@AffyisAffy My take: Unfortunately (IIRC), Kyocera is the only Japanese manufacturer left with an official presence in the U.S. However, as they announced last year, they were completely pulling out of the consumer smartphone market to focus exclusively on rugged smartphones, and in the U.S. they now only exclusively release rugged dumb phones as well. So I'm not so sure if they really care so much about normal consumer phones anymore, even in Japan. Maybe if enough people annoy/beg Kyocera on social media and/or if big, very popular influencers promote KeiTai and also plead with Kyocera to release them here, but I'm not so sure if big influencers really care that much. Alternatively, the Japanese manufacturers could simply include more bands in their Japanese market phones, increasing gray market imports. But that would probably raise the cost of the phones further, when Japan is already dealing with its own economic issues at the moment. So with that being said, I'm not super hopeful, but you never know.
"The CAT S22 Killer" naw, I love the S22 I spent the last year and a half throwing it at stuff as hard as I can and it still works! No, I'm not mad. I simply chuck it because the sturdy build is awesome the phone is good as an android phone too and I actually beat Sonic Advance 1 & 2 via MyBoy emulator on my CAT S22. Cool that another flip phone exists, but I am so happy with CAT S22 Flip
How's the RAM and general speed/smoothness? Asking because I have a Unihertz Jelly 2e (4GB RAM) and it sucks ass. I don't even use it for anything other than Gmail/chat (notifs only, not even replying) and occasional banking and ride-hailing. Not to mention the battery is awful. Would Cat S22 be much better?
I love this so much! The Android Go surprised me much since there's 2 versions of Alt Mive Style Folder, the regular Android and the Android Go, so that caught me off guard lol, but I love it regardless
I ordered one a couple weeks ago. I'm going back into studies soon and want to have as little distractions as possible, so this flip looks brilliant Plus I can hang little phone charms from it :)
Thanks for the great review - it makes me so much more excited for mine! I'm just a girl💁♀so I bought it for the cuteness factor lol [got the white one🤍] Your review makes me appreciate the device more🫶 I binged on Korean review videos with no English cc until this video😅
i think i'm going to get this one. i love flip phones but still need a "smart phone" for work purposes. this seems like the best mixture of both and the design is just so much more pleasant than the cat s22
Thanks for the review, seems like a great new option. How's the battery life though? Both the tiq & qin's battery aren't great, so I'm curious. Also do apps close in the background? That's another issue I've seen with some of these phones.
Just an FYI, but generally speaking, any phone that works with T-Mobile VoLTE, should also work with AT&T MVNOs (MVNOs don't enforce a whitelist). To be more specific...at least in some areas depending on bands, so long as it's unlocked. AT&T and T-Mobile mostly use the same 4G frequency bands, albeit with different priorities in different areas (furthermore T-Mobile notably adds band 71, which AT&T doesn't use on 4G).
Great video! Sorry isn’t about this video the next question. You mentioned in the livestream a case that you got for an Apple Watch. I tried to find any legit review about the tinypod case. But nothing, isn’t a scam right.? What do you think? Also where did you get the one without the wheel. I’m seriously thinking about to get the Apple watch but I think this case at least without the wheel is a must have to have it in your pocket. Thanks in advance 👋
Hii Jose thanks a lot for this review ! I started getting interested in dumbphones a few months ago and I was about to go for a cat 22 (running under android is an important criteria for me). After watching your most recent reviews, I'm changing my mind, knowing that the manufacturer of the S22 has disappeared is annoying me. The alt mive style looks amazing, but i also like the TTfone970 you recomanded in your 2024 video review (since I live in France.) What's your opinion on that ? which one is better ? Thanksss
Hello there! Is it just for my case? But whenever i would charge my mive phone at 100% and use it for a couple of minutes, it would go from a 100% to 95 real quick. Im just honestly confused 😅 like is that something that you also experience?
- At 04:46 you say that it has "a little bit more limitations" than the Cat S22. What exactly would those be? From everything you mentioned, it would seem more like the opposite - this one has a bigger screen, it's bigger overall... - Which Android version is it running? - Is it available/will it work in Europe?
Looks like it runs Android 12 GO from the eBay listing. It should run reasonably well in Europe, certainly better than the U.S., overall. That being said, I'd recommend checking what bands your particular carrier and/or country use; they can vary to a degree. Find out what the primary and/or low-frequency coverage bands are and compare them to the eBay listing, that will give you a better idea regarding coverage. This phone notably lacks bands 20 and 28 (for Europe/Asia), which could be important or even critical for coverage in some countries (depending on the carrier as well).
@@JoseBriones Jose, could you check the comments held for review, please? I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I accidentally posted a comment multiple times; they disappeared; they came back once, but then disappeared again when I deleted the extra ones. RUclips's automated comment moderation is weird.
am i able to add different languages on this phone? also what is the traditional T9 app he mentioned? and how can i check if the bands on this phone will work with my carrier?
Yes. Different languages available. An app you can download from the App Store. It improves the typing experience. To check the bands, contact your carrier and cross reference with the eBay listing.
@@JoseBriones so i can have the device in english and have other languages for the keyboard? my biggest concern is being able to type in whatever language i need. thank you for the reply
What area are you in and what service or prepaid plan did you use for it? I wanted to possibly get one and want to know since I’m in California and I’d love to know what service can work best with this phone for it to be use. I know you said Att but if you can be more specific that would be great. Thank you.
I'm finding it hard to get a reasonably priced case that ships to me, on the Internet. Would you say this phone definitely needs a case, asap? Or do I have a bit of time to scour the Internet for a better deal?
@@PrimaveraOneFrom my experience, international phones never work with Wi-Fi calling on AT&T, at least not without some hackery. It looks like You're in Australia, though, so I don't know. Do import European and/or Asian models usually work with Wi-Fi calling there? The answer to that may tell you whether it will work on this phone. (I assume it probably supports it in some capacity, on some carriers, being Android-based). You also might need to use "hacks" like Pixel IMS to get it working; no guarantee that would work, however.
@@CrossStix I don't know so I put my 5 cents here 🙂 I'm in Ireland and here network certs phones to be able to use wi-fi calling. And this way only iphones and samsung phones do work. I've tested couple of other phones (Asus ZenFone was last one) and wi-fi calling didn't worked.
@@Tom_KowalczukYeah, that's basically how it works in America as well. But at least sometimes I think it's more to do with phone "programming" (at least on T-Mobile US) since hidden menus, Pixel IMS, etc. can sometimes force enable it. Regarding AT&T though, my best guess is that they enforce a certified whitelist for VoWiFi in addition to the other crap. Since I've yet to get it working on AT&T. Gotta love carrier certification and/or completely unnecessary proprietary/non-standardized implementation BS 🙄.
Do any of those phone have a feature to type faster by pressing a volume key, like back in the day? So for example you press 3 and Volume Up to get E instantly, or 3 and Volume Down to get F instantly
Hi, have you tried doro phones? Some of them (such us 7080, 7030, and I'm not sure what else) run some kind of simplified Android, with flip form factor
@JoseBriones so I wanted to buy one of them, but then I messaged them to ask about WhatsApp sync from my old phone (I ask about a month ago but they just answered), and unfortunately it can't be synced because it's not a full Android phone, such a bummer :(
Hello, I am from Egypt and I was thinking of buying this device and I wanted to know if I would encounter any problems with it. I would also like to know if it is available in the Chinese market.
Basically a cell service brand that uses a 3rd party underlying network operator. They buy minutes, data, etc. wholesale and resell it for a profit, using their own unique plans and providing their own customer service.
I don't want to speak for Jose, but I think he probably assumed it would work well for everyone else, since it worked well for him in his area. I imagine he lives in an area that has reliable band 5 LTE, probably an urban area as well, if I had to guess. That doesn't mean it will work well for everyone, though. For example, AT&T's primary coverage band is 17/12 (band 12 encapsulates band 17), which this phone completely lacks. So that means zero coverage in any AT&T areas without band 5.
@@CrossStix gotcha, appreciate the help, I actually decided to swing it, found a seller on eBay selling used ones for $120, I live in Brooklyn NY, guess I'll check back once it arrives🙏🏼
Band 5 is present in most areas, that's why the assumption. However, you are correct. It may not work for everyone, so that's why i said try it out and if it doesn't work well, send it back. It's a good phone though! Hopefully more like these for the US will come
Hi ! I just got mine finally but as I can't read korean, I don't really know how to set it up -- do you know the link to an english instruction manual by any chance ?
Go to settings and change the language there. It will be the easier way. If you have an Android, it will be the same process as changing the language on an Android smartphone
Unfortunately, I am rough handling my CAT S22 Flip, yet she lives with minimal scratches with her ruggedised body and glass only on small outer display. I will stick to my CAT S22 Flip and wait for price drop on ALT MIVE Style Folder 32GB AT-M120 when discontinued.
does anyone know how i can add another language to my keyboard on this phone? i added another language to gboard in settings but it doesnt seem to work. the 12key keyboard installed on the phone only has korean and english.
When yypu say coast do you mean eastcoast or westcoast i am in nyc eastcoast and on tmobile. Do you think its worth me trying it on tmobile or only get it if i get atnt?
It only has band 5 LTE for the US. So unless you live in Myrtle Beach, SC, you'll get no coverage whatsoever on T-Mobile. (The ONLY area where T-Mobile uses band 5). Check my other comments as well, even if you're considering AT&T.
ordered mine after watching this, ive got at&t and im on the east coast usa, no luck with my sim card. cant get any signal after trying everything ive been able to find online & in several reddit posts etc. 😔
@@stinky_lizard MVNO is a smaller service provider using AT&T Towers, examples of some of these are: Cricket, H2O, PureTalk & US Mobile. You can search online for a full list of AT&T MVNOs. Just take note that not all MVNOs use the same bands and I haven't seen enough documentation as for which of them specifically work, all I know is that an AT&T MVNO - albeit not sure which one- is the only working option. My phone will be arriving in the next couple of days, I have a US Mobile Dark Star Sim card which uses AT&T network, so I'll try to check back here letting everyone know whether it worked or not.
I got a S22. A major downside is bad battery life and absence of 3.5mm jack. Network reception is not that good. Power saving mode ia not that effective. I like the idea. But the real world performance is not there
does it have any sort of touch keyboard or are you stuck with the t9? can you restore "full" touchscreen functionality in the software in any way? thanks for the video!
It's not Verizon certified. While there are ways around that, it lacks the primary coverage band for Verizon, band 13. So probably not recommended, unless you want to "sacrifice" another Verizon certified phone to get it working and still deal with limited coverage only on Band 5.
@@Coles-bootleg-vids Well, the easiest way is just to have a Verizon SIM that's already activated in another phone, then switch it into this phone. That should work on Verizon MVNOs, but may not work on Verizon proper or brands owned by Verizon like TracFone. Essentially, the original Verizon-certified phone that was used to activate the SIM will remain registered on the network, so it can't be used at the same time as the uncertified phone on the Verizon network. Furthermore, just to be clear, there is no guarantee this will work, it may also need the Verizon VoLTE profile baked into the firmware. However, this does seem to work on most of the newer international phones. There's one more way, but RUclips might delete my comment if I say.
@@Coles-bootleg-vids The other way is changing/cl0nlng the lMEl @nd also MElD sometimes (this is spellled wrong on purpose) of the certifiedd f0ne. It's actually leg@l in America for purposes like this, from what I read (I'm not a l@wyer though) and you'd need special software tools to do it. This is basically the only option for Veriz0n proper last I checked, since they're really anal about kicking uncertifiedd f0nes off the netw0rk.
@@JoseBriones i see, the ones in the link in description are unlocked though so, in theory i could just change my carrier to one that works with the phone?
Please do tell if the keypad keys can get stuck quickly when typing like CAT S22 Flip < 1 year? I realise modern keypads are poorly built for frequent typing sessions on Whatsapp message and SMS messages.
Great video as always, Jose!
Assuming the eBay listing is accurate, this thing ONLY has band 5 for AT&T and is missing every other AT&T band. AT&T band 5 LTE is actually unavailable in some markets and/or it's been moved entirely to 5G, giving this phone limited coverage aside from areas that have band 5 LTE, so buyer beware.
With that being said, I think, personally, I'd still recommend the S22 flip over this for anyone in the U.S. or Canada, assuming good coverage is important to you.
Are they stupid? man why do they keep making bricks like this.
@@devzozo Cost savings. At least in America, most people I know expect dumbphones to be dirt cheap, so the manufacturers cut corners where they can to keep the price down.
Adding extra bands means a more expensive SoC and/or extra radio "equipment"/antennas. This phone, for example, is only intended to be sold in South Korea AFAIK, so why spend the extra money for proper compatibility in other countries?
The only exception to this, that I am aware of, is newer Sonim phones, like the XP3Plus. It basically has every band necessary for worldwide 4G compatibility, while still being relatively competitive price-wise compared to similar phones.
It's the same way with smartphones. Generally speaking, the cheap ones have limited band support, sometimes only working with a single carrier, even when unlocked. While flagship phones these days often have near-perfect worldwide 4G compatibility.
@@devzozoTo put it simply, cost savings.
Furthermore, international phones like this aren't intended to be sold and used in North America.
Someone needs to come out with a Japan Keitai style S22 flip in the US. Yeah it's a niche market but I think the aesthetic will gain enough traction on TikTok if they market it right
@@AffyisAffy My take: Unfortunately (IIRC), Kyocera is the only Japanese manufacturer left with an official presence in the U.S. However, as they announced last year, they were completely pulling out of the consumer smartphone market to focus exclusively on rugged smartphones, and in the U.S. they now only exclusively release rugged dumb phones as well. So I'm not so sure if they really care so much about normal consumer phones anymore, even in Japan.
Maybe if enough people annoy/beg Kyocera on social media and/or if big, very popular influencers promote KeiTai and also plead with Kyocera to release them here, but I'm not so sure if big influencers really care that much.
Alternatively, the Japanese manufacturers could simply include more bands in their Japanese market phones, increasing gray market imports. But that would probably raise the cost of the phones further, when Japan is already dealing with its own economic issues at the moment.
So with that being said, I'm not super hopeful, but you never know.
thank you this was so helpful and made me purchase one !
"The CAT S22 Killer" naw, I love the S22 I spent the last year and a half throwing it at stuff as hard as I can and it still works! No, I'm not mad. I simply chuck it because the sturdy build is awesome the phone is good as an android phone too and I actually beat Sonic Advance 1 & 2 via MyBoy emulator on my CAT S22. Cool that another flip phone exists, but I am so happy with CAT S22 Flip
How's the RAM and general speed/smoothness? Asking because I have a Unihertz Jelly 2e (4GB RAM) and it sucks ass. I don't even use it for anything other than Gmail/chat (notifs only, not even replying) and occasional banking and ride-hailing. Not to mention the battery is awful. Would Cat S22 be much better?
@@xmakaraigmy lord my dude, where are you from? Could i perchance buy you a phone thats usable??
very helpful
Programmable LED notification lights? I'm in love. Bummer about the lack of bands in the US.
I love this so much! The Android Go surprised me much since there's 2 versions of Alt Mive Style Folder, the regular Android and the Android Go, so that caught me off guard lol, but I love it regardless
Do you have the link for the regular Android version? And Does it have different specs compared to the Android Go version?
Alt Mive Style Folder, the regular Android version
This with a qwerty keyboard and a decent camera, nice bright colours. The ability to put graphene or calyx on it.
Wow. I had this phone in my wishlist from the same shop yesterday and it just sold out now. Lol. This is probably due to your video 😂😂😂😂
I ordered one a couple weeks ago. I'm going back into studies soon and want to have as little distractions as possible, so this flip looks brilliant
Plus I can hang little phone charms from it :)
Hey!! How is the phone if you’ve received it? Just curious lol
I wassss waiting for this video!!!
Thanks for the great review - it makes me so much more excited for mine! I'm just a girl💁♀so I bought it for the cuteness factor lol [got the white one🤍] Your review makes me appreciate the device more🫶
I binged on Korean review videos with no English cc until this video😅
i think i'm going to get this one. i love flip phones but still need a "smart phone" for work purposes. this seems like the best mixture of both and the design is just so much more pleasant than the cat s22
Just wondering should I be buying this from a different seller as I'm in the European market? Great video.
eBay should be fine. They ship from Korea
14 hours ago, nice to finally see a review on this thing, really thinking of buying it tbh
Thanks for the review, seems like a great new option. How's the battery life though? Both the tiq & qin's battery aren't great, so I'm curious. Also do apps close in the background? That's another issue I've seen with some of these phones.
Battery life is better than the TIQ and Qin phones
This is exactly the kind of folder that I would want. But it just is a little too sluggish
Thank you so much for your review ❤❤❤
What sim card should i use for this phone? I js ordered one :)
Nano SIM card
@@JoseBriones thank u!
This is the phone i looking for..😊
finally an ATT one!
Just an FYI, but generally speaking, any phone that works with T-Mobile VoLTE, should also work with AT&T MVNOs (MVNOs don't enforce a whitelist).
To be more specific...at least in some areas depending on bands, so long as it's unlocked. AT&T and T-Mobile mostly use the same 4G frequency bands, albeit with different priorities in different areas (furthermore T-Mobile notably adds band 71, which AT&T doesn't use on 4G).
AT & T does not work with this phone in NY. I tried it. Tried US Mobile Dark Star which goes through AT & T and it didn't work either.
Thanks for reporting. I'll make sure to update this on the finder.
Great video! Sorry isn’t about this video the next question. You mentioned in the livestream a case that you got for an Apple Watch. I tried to find any legit review about the tinypod case. But nothing, isn’t a scam right.? What do you think? Also where did you get the one without the wheel. I’m seriously thinking about to get the Apple watch but I think this case at least without the wheel is a must have to have it in your pocket. Thanks in advance 👋
Hii Jose thanks a lot for this review !
I started getting interested in dumbphones a few months ago and I was about to go for a cat 22 (running under android is an important criteria for me).
After watching your most recent reviews, I'm changing my mind, knowing that the manufacturer of the S22 has disappeared is annoying me. The alt mive style looks amazing, but i also like the TTfone970 you recomanded in your 2024 video review (since I live in France.)
What's your opinion on that ? which one is better ?
Thanksss
Will it delivere to India
Hello there! Is it just for my case? But whenever i would charge my mive phone at 100% and use it for a couple of minutes, it would go from a 100% to 95 real quick. Im just honestly confused 😅 like is that something that you also experience?
- At 04:46 you say that it has "a little bit more limitations" than the Cat S22. What exactly would those be? From everything you mentioned, it would seem more like the opposite - this one has a bigger screen, it's bigger overall...
- Which Android version is it running?
- Is it available/will it work in Europe?
Looks like it runs Android 12 GO from the eBay listing.
It should run reasonably well in Europe, certainly better than the U.S., overall. That being said, I'd recommend checking what bands your particular carrier and/or country use; they can vary to a degree. Find out what the primary and/or low-frequency coverage bands are and compare them to the eBay listing, that will give you a better idea regarding coverage.
This phone notably lacks bands 20 and 28 (for Europe/Asia), which could be important or even critical for coverage in some countries (depending on the carrier as well).
I meant limitations in the US. Given that it has less bands to work in the US
@@JoseBriones Jose, could you check the comments held for review, please? I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I accidentally posted a comment multiple times; they disappeared; they came back once, but then disappeared again when I deleted the extra ones.
RUclips's automated comment moderation is weird.
I’ll check. Yeah. Their filters go bonkers sometimes.
@@JoseBriones I hate to bother you, but RUclips filters are being weird yet again. Could you check the comments held for review?
Hallo Jose! Thanks for the review! I was wondering if you are able to send/receive photos when texting other people?
Yes. No issues
@JoseBriones Thank you! How about group message? Does it work well?
Most important for me is google GPS. Is it a hand-free gps??? Like my smartphone right now?? Like where it follows as you drive
Yes. It works in the same way that a smartphone does.
@@JoseBriones thank you for the hasty response my good sir
am i able to add different languages on this phone? also what is the traditional T9 app he mentioned? and how can i check if the bands on this phone will work with my carrier?
Yes. Different languages available. An app you can download from the App Store. It improves the typing experience.
To check the bands, contact your carrier and cross reference with the eBay listing.
@@JoseBriones so i can have the device in english and have other languages for the keyboard? my biggest concern is being able to type in whatever language i need. thank you for the reply
Where to change into english? Its set up into korean
What area are you in and what service or prepaid plan did you use for it? I wanted to possibly get one and want to know since I’m in California and I’d love to know what service can work best with this phone for it to be use. I know you said Att but if you can be more specific that would be great. Thank you.
I used the US Mobile Dark Star (AT&T network). I live in Colorado near Denver.
Wonderful review! Would you consider reviewing the Samsung Galaxy Folder 2?
I believe I have an older review of that device already in the channel :)
@JoseBriones you're right! Thanks Jose I'm watching that now 😁
I'm finding it hard to get a reasonably priced case that ships to me, on the Internet. Would you say this phone definitely needs a case, asap? Or do I have a bit of time to scour the Internet for a better deal?
You have time to find a good deal.
I'd like to get a phone prominently for calling and texting. Would this phone work with Chatr mobile in Canada?
Most likely. The bands are matching the Canadian carriers.
Hi Joe, can you please review Sharp Aquos 601SH 😢
Hey! Would you recommend this or the mode 1 retro ii?
The Mode 1 Retro II has the full version of Android, which is better. However, if you want durability, the ALT Mive Style folder is better.
Hello, do you know if it has voice over LTE? Phones that dont have that in Australia will soon not work at all :(
It does have VoLTE.
@@JoseBriones amazing! Thank you! Does it also have wifi calling?
@@PrimaveraOneFrom my experience, international phones never work with Wi-Fi calling on AT&T, at least not without some hackery.
It looks like You're in Australia, though, so I don't know. Do import European and/or Asian models usually work with Wi-Fi calling there? The answer to that may tell you whether it will work on this phone. (I assume it probably supports it in some capacity, on some carriers, being Android-based).
You also might need to use "hacks" like Pixel IMS to get it working; no guarantee that would work, however.
@@CrossStix
I don't know so I put my 5 cents here 🙂
I'm in Ireland and here network certs phones to be able to use wi-fi calling. And this way only iphones and samsung phones do work. I've tested couple of other phones (Asus ZenFone was last one) and wi-fi calling didn't worked.
@@Tom_KowalczukYeah, that's basically how it works in America as well. But at least sometimes I think it's more to do with phone "programming" (at least on T-Mobile US) since hidden menus, Pixel IMS, etc. can sometimes force enable it. Regarding AT&T though, my best guess is that they enforce a certified whitelist for VoWiFi in addition to the other crap. Since I've yet to get it working on AT&T.
Gotta love carrier certification and/or completely unnecessary proprietary/non-standardized implementation BS 🙄.
Do any of those phone have a feature to type faster by pressing a volume key, like back in the day? So for example you press 3 and Volume Up to get E instantly, or 3 and Volume Down to get F instantly
This is not available
Am I reading it right or is this 3G only?
This has 3G and 4G LTE bands
Too big
Hi, have you tried doro phones? Some of them (such us 7080, 7030, and I'm not sure what else) run some kind of simplified Android, with flip form factor
I have and have made reviews on some of them
@JoseBriones so I wanted to buy one of them, but then I messaged them to ask about WhatsApp sync from my old phone (I ask about a month ago but they just answered), and unfortunately it can't be synced because it's not a full Android phone, such a bummer :(
Boss , can you let me know ALT MIVE Style Folder if support 4G VoLTE in the meantime ?
Yes. It does support 4G VoLTE
Amazing video!!!
Hello, I am from Egypt and I was thinking of buying this device and I wanted to know if I would encounter any problems with it. I would also like to know if it is available in the Chinese market.
And also if I can't get it, what are the alternatives that might be suitable?
Before Launcher gets a lot of love from the CAT Jelly communities...can you try it out on this new device?
It works well :)
OMG i got so excited but its what i need but its at&t i am still thinking of waiting for lightphone 3 or getting kc903 😢
Can someone explain what MVNOs are and if I were to buy this phone would I be able to call people and text people anywhere like normal?
I’m very interested in this phone but am worried I’m going to buy it and won’t be able to use it
Basically a cell service brand that uses a 3rd party underlying network operator. They buy minutes, data, etc. wholesale and resell it for a profit, using their own unique plans and providing their own customer service.
Do you know if it works on us mobiles dark star Network? pretty sure that's on AT&t towers
Yes, it should work on US Mobile Dark Star, it's an AT&T MVNO. That being said, I'd recommend you check out my other comment here.
@@CrossStix aha thanks, interesting though that Jose said it should work with at&t seemingly across the board
I don't want to speak for Jose, but I think he probably assumed it would work well for everyone else, since it worked well for him in his area. I imagine he lives in an area that has reliable band 5 LTE, probably an urban area as well, if I had to guess. That doesn't mean it will work well for everyone, though.
For example, AT&T's primary coverage band is 17/12 (band 12 encapsulates band 17), which this phone completely lacks. So that means zero coverage in any AT&T areas without band 5.
@@CrossStix gotcha, appreciate the help, I actually decided to swing it, found a seller on eBay selling used ones for $120, I live in Brooklyn NY, guess I'll check back once it arrives🙏🏼
Band 5 is present in most areas, that's why the assumption. However, you are correct. It may not work for everyone, so that's why i said try it out and if it doesn't work well, send it back. It's a good phone though! Hopefully more like these for the US will come
Hi ! I just got mine finally but as I can't read korean, I don't really know how to set it up -- do you know the link to an english instruction manual by any chance ?
Go to settings and change the language there. It will be the easier way. If you have an Android, it will be the same process as changing the language on an Android smartphone
How does att mvno work? I just bought my alt mive and i have att but im not too sure what an mvno is or how to access it
US Mobile is an example of an MVNO. Their dark star network uses ATandT.
Does it work with tracfone?
No
Unfortunately, I am rough handling my CAT S22 Flip, yet she lives with minimal scratches with her ruggedised body and glass only on small outer display. I will stick to my CAT S22 Flip and wait for price drop on ALT MIVE Style Folder 32GB AT-M120 when discontinued.
Maybe I missed it, but can this support a hotspot?
Yes
The lack of at least notification and time lights outside is a bit of a disappointment
does anyone know how i can add another language to my keyboard on this phone? i added another language to gboard in settings but it doesnt seem to work. the 12key keyboard installed on the phone only has korean and english.
Does anyone know if this phone is able to connect to 4G? (We no longer have 3G in Australia)
looks beautiful
I would like to see a review of the mode 1 retro 2
Already on the channel
@JoseBriones You can see it now haha, now I just need to make sure that it has the bands to operate in my country
When yypu say coast do you mean eastcoast or westcoast i am in nyc eastcoast and on tmobile. Do you think its worth me trying it on tmobile or only get it if i get atnt?
It only has band 5 LTE for the US. So unless you live in Myrtle Beach, SC, you'll get no coverage whatsoever on T-Mobile. (The ONLY area where T-Mobile uses band 5).
Check my other comments as well, even if you're considering AT&T.
@@CrossStix ok thank you so much this is helpful.
if dual sim was available would have been perfect
How does the size of this compare to the Sunbeam F1?
About 20% larger.
ordered mine after watching this, ive got at&t and im on the east coast usa, no luck with my sim card. cant get any signal after trying everything ive been able to find online & in several reddit posts etc. 😔
You cannot use regular AT&T.AT&T MVNOs only
@JoseBriones is there anything i can do to get some of that? no idea what that means 😓
@@stinky_lizard MVNO is a smaller service provider using AT&T Towers, examples of some of these are: Cricket, H2O, PureTalk & US Mobile. You can search online for a full list of AT&T MVNOs.
Just take note that not all MVNOs use the same bands and I haven't seen enough documentation as for which of them specifically work, all I know is that an AT&T MVNO - albeit not sure which one- is the only working option.
My phone will be arriving in the next couple of days, I have a US Mobile Dark Star Sim card which uses AT&T network, so I'll try to check back here letting everyone know whether it worked or not.
@@stinky_lizard"Dark Star" by US Mobile, H2O Wireless are a couple examples.
Do you know if apps like Life 360 would work on this?
They should. It has Android and it should be able to be installed from the PlayStore.
Do you know if this phone is compatible with VoLTE?
Yes.
@@JoseBriones Thank you! :)
Its perfect for me as i returned cat s22 due to heaviness. Maybe ill consider an atnt service as i have tmobile.
Does it support NFC payment?
It does not have NFC
How can i changw the language into english
Settings>language
I got a S22. A major downside is bad battery life and absence of 3.5mm jack. Network reception is not that good. Power saving mode ia not that effective.
I like the idea. But the real world performance is not there
Hi. I'm from India. How can I buy this?
eBay
@JoseBriones Is it 4g?
Would have been a nice phone to buy, IF I COULD BUY ONE! (sigh)
Also, Jose, the battery isn't removable right?
does it have any sort of touch keyboard or are you stuck with the t9? can you restore "full" touchscreen functionality in the software in any way?
thanks for the video!
Yes. You can use the touchscreen keyboard if you'd like. You can also install other keyboards you'd like
will this phone work with verizon in the united states?
It's not Verizon certified. While there are ways around that, it lacks the primary coverage band for Verizon, band 13. So probably not recommended, unless you want to "sacrifice" another Verizon certified phone to get it working and still deal with limited coverage only on Band 5.
@@CrossStix Theoretically speaking, how would one go about said process?
@@Coles-bootleg-vids Well, the easiest way is just to have a Verizon SIM that's already activated in another phone, then switch it into this phone. That should work on Verizon MVNOs, but may not work on Verizon proper or brands owned by Verizon like TracFone. Essentially, the original Verizon-certified phone that was used to activate the SIM will remain registered on the network, so it can't be used at the same time as the uncertified phone on the Verizon network.
Furthermore, just to be clear, there is no guarantee this will work, it may also need the Verizon VoLTE profile baked into the firmware. However, this does seem to work on most of the newer international phones.
There's one more way, but RUclips might delete my comment if I say.
@@Coles-bootleg-vids The other way is changing/cl0nlng the lMEl @nd also MElD sometimes (this is spellled wrong on purpose) of the certifiedd f0ne. It's actually leg@l in America for purposes like this, from what I read (I'm not a l@wyer though) and you'd need special software tools to do it.
This is basically the only option for Veriz0n proper last I checked, since they're really anal about kicking uncertifiedd f0nes off the netw0rk.
@@CrossStix I have discord, if you have that too. This is somn that I've been very curious about for a while and I'd love to hear more.
Damn, this one is sooo good BUT its so long :(
How to switch into english
I hope it will work with ukrainian Vodafone, love this phone
Aw man bummer that it only works on AT&T.
Unihertz tank mini 1 please
Do you know if this will work with boost mobile/infinite?
It probably won't since you can't guarantee that it will be AT&T
@@JoseBriones i see, the ones in the link in description are unlocked though so, in theory i could just change my carrier to one that works with the phone?
Please do tell if the keypad keys can get stuck quickly when typing like CAT S22 Flip < 1 year? I realise modern keypads are poorly built for frequent typing sessions on Whatsapp message and SMS messages.
The built quality on this phone is way better than the CAT S22
200 $form a dumb phone...tomuch..... Cat s22 is much cheaper
I need to know custom duty in Pakistan so can you send imei nmbr plz
whastapp
Yes. It’s available.
@@JoseBriones I know bruh XD
I was just poking fun of the spelling in the video... sorry lol
Thanks! I need to fix that!!!