@@zackgreen4598LeBron is overrated he's 19 for 107 in the clutch under 5 seconds he has a plus minus of negative 84 in the finals his record in the finals is 22-33 , he's 4-6, he has the most missed FGs missed in NBA history he has the most turnovers in NBA history, he has had the most help in NBA history, he has no mid range game he has a ok post game finally, he has gotten most of his points between 1 to 3 feet, tips dunks and layups and free throws, if LeBron can't get to the basket he's going to struggle, LeBron has to many flaws in his game not a good free throw shooter not clutch, Kobe was better wilt was better Hakeem Kareem and magic and bird Duncan too, you dudes are delusional, LeBron has played with 3 superteams and still have a 4-6 record and still have so many excuses
@@chrisdamon1096LeBron ain't #2 and no one is disrespecting him because we don't rank him as high as you, he great but I'm taking Kobe Kareem wilt magic bird Hakeem Duncan and Shaq over LeBron, LeBron has had so much help, he's not clutch he's not great at the Free throw line, he's a above average defender, if he can't get to the rack he's shooting mid 30s from the perimeter, he's always ran his offense so of course his numbers will be higher than the older generation as far as assist versus someone like Kobe who's a sg, Kobe was better on both sides of the ball than LeBron more clutch played in a tougher conference while LeBron played in a weak eastern conference with superteams, since LeBron has came out west he's had a bubble championship in 7 years missed the playoffs twice made the playin and got bounced in the first round, imagine if kobe played with superteams in the east while lebron played in the west after shaq left he wouldn't have won 2 championships like Kobe, lebron is #9
Despite the frightening Jordan experience, Walker's shimmy still looks smooth and fun to watch. It is an accomplishment to pull it off in front of Jordan💯
You wanna know why this wasn't in the last dance because it didn't need to be!! All this " there's nothing wrong with celebrating the win but his mistake was letting Jordan see it" it wasn't even personal for Jordan
Everyone shimmys or acts a fool now cause MJ is obviously no longer in the league otherwise they wouldn't do it for many reasons. Not only is he NBAs forever goat and would make you pay but he brought professionalism, heart, and integrity to the game....something today's league KNOWS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT!!........
90's basketball was mostly dominated by manly legends like jordon etc. so when he saw walker celebrating and dancing like a fool, after winning one game. You know that enraged him. Can you Imagine what jordon what've done to todays week era? Who twerk it up all the damm time even before games. Jordon would've dropped 50 on all of them in every game or more. Took the dance right out of them. You know, he would've Really tore em a new one. Real men don't dance.
I never seen a championship team start on road i been saying this since 98 i swear. I remember this Halloween night my senior yr i recorded this game but left at halftime to go to scandia for hallowed haunted house. Came back home only to see we lost smh..i was crazy asf
No opposing player i know and ever played with was afraid of another opponent in this way. Players have always talked uno what. Oh he gonna make mad. GTFOOH😂
Can Newton is a hater and was 75 - 68 - 1 as a starter. Oh wait, a PLAYOFF RECORD OF 3-4. Why would anyone listen to his crap. He was average, at best.
The way you mentioned revenge is way over reacting to that one shimmy. Celtics did their way back to win the game and celebrating is normal and that way you called that MJ stories? Everyone loves MJ but this is way more annoying everytime.
Why do so many sports RUclipsrs do this with their voice? It makes it intolerable to watch. The voice goes up at the end of every single line. It’s crazy. No one talks this way. It sounds ridiculous. So hard to listen to. This would have been a good video but it’s unwatchable.
I don't think Jordan should be idolize. He is a dictator. He was only good when they won the game. Earl Strickland is his equivalent in billiards. Sore losers.
And they say MJ can't average 50 in today's league. Imagine giving MJ a too small taunt from players every game. He'd be in "I took it personal" mode the whole regular season.
Mike could easily average 50 in the league as it is now if he wanted to. He averaged 37 one season in a very much tougher NBA to score in. Defensive 3 seconds and no hand-checking...would be no problem
No player EVER has taken something personal in game 1 of an 82 game season!! That's why he's the 🐐. Game 1 of the season, or game 6 of the finals......he's never seen a game 7 in the finals 😂😂
Jordan would make it personal. It is just the way he is wired. And I love it. I guess it is now common to brag and showboat in the NBA just like the NFL, for showmanship. But I think at that time in the NBA, there is an unwritten rule that you celebrate like that when you already won the championship. Don't teach kids how to devalue winning and taking celebrations as normal as scoring a bucket, that belongs in the streets, not in the highest level of professional sports...see word professional. That's why he only celebrated with a fist clenched like saying "Yes!" rather than showboat.
I never knew there was a backstory in the aftermath of this game. I remember when this game originally aired & surprisingly, I distinctively remember the score being 22-8. After that, I didn't even wanna watch it anymore. I turned it off & went to sleep. I was SHOCKED when I saw the Celtics had won the next morning. Cosgrove for always diggin up these gems. Big ups to you bro ✊🏾
@cincytino9153, Jordan was raised with a father in the house. The modern game has more men raised by baby mamas. Which explains the increase in effeminate behavior.
The Goat Cosgrove bro I love your videos man I’ve been watching since 2018 it’s been crazy the coincidence’s and scary videos are my favorite love you bro Goat
Well to be fair a "shimmy" is an iconic celebration done by the likes of curry trae harden etc. but a real nba fan knows who's the og behind it. And like I said it's iconic.
Do 1 with Toronto Raptors who beat MJ Bulls the 1st two time they met. But when the media asked MJ why is he having a hard time beating Raptors, the Raptors never beat him again😂😂😂😂
That's the main difference between LeBron and MJ...there have been plenty of current and former players say that no one fears LeBron, nit because he's not great, but because of his personality. Players actually FEARED MJ, and when they show boated against him, like Walker, Miller, Garnett, and other young players, they never did it again. It took practically nothing to get MJ into kill mode...dude was just a straight savage. Kobe and Bird are the closest I have seen to Mike as far as that goes, but no one has truly been on his level. Young people just don't know what they missed, and what a crazy competitive and intense NBA they they missed as well.
Damn. What's wrong with celebrating and dancing shimmy. Your pump up and have a lot of energy, you need to release it. Because there is Jordan and you are not allowed to celebrate?! F*ck. He don't have the right to stop a guy from celebrating unless it threatens his life. Damn, were human.
I love it, Antoine Walker is one of my favorite Celtics ever he was the first stretch for out there banging down threes he was even in the three-point shootout one year lol.
Sounds to me like Scottie came back and won those next games as a team!! MJ just a scorer who locked down small guards he’s so damn overrated. Didn’t have Scottie for one night and he couldn’t even beat the 15th seed Celtics !
@@JukkaRamo even if your a sperm donar i cant be your son...you old heads are just impeccibly biased..that old game was not balanced and it was just rough
I remember watching the first game of that season at my grandparents house I just enjoyed every second. The young Celtics roster was a hell of a team. I was so happy they won. Shimmy or not, they deserved that W.
It's one thing getting upset over a defeat celebration, but the icing is being able to keep a beat down promise on the Victor. MJ was DNA-ED to win & to feed on every defeat.. much respect...twende kazi...🇰🇪
This is why I despise the Lebum JORDON GOAT debate. There is no debate. Name a time when a LeFlop had "I took that personal" moment, or a team/player that was threatened by the self proclaimed queen.....I mean king james. Hell even Dirk against had a took it personal moment, when the three suckers of the Heat tried to clown him. Longevity with how many championships, and 1 of those with a asterisk(the bubble). You will never here, "Like James.....I wanna be like James". No humility=no class.
Antoine was from Chicago and used to play pickup with Jordan all the time. It's not like they were strangers on the court. And it's a overall a whole lot of nothing ... not like Jordan went mental in any of those games. BREAKING NEWS: much better championship team beats basement dwelling rebuilding team 3 out of 4 games. Ok?
The last dance was like infinity war, im waiting for engame because his comeback was the biggest thing ever in sports history. The NBA almost felt like it had replacement players without Jordan
Now here is where I'm lost. MJ wish to be identify as the greates. But when he SHOW BOAT its ok. But when a player does it ti him. He acts like a BICTH?
wants credit for showboating after doing his job lol meanwhile cant balance his checkbook what a simp.....nfl still worse every tackle they celebrate....nice hit bro but you gave up a first down
I remember that game. The Bulls didn’t play that well on opening night and they made the Celtics look like world beaters smh😂😂😂😂. The Celtics were acting like they beat they bulls when they played their best
Anytime Jordan gets talked about today it's all revisionist history. Everyone wants to find dirt on Jordan to discredit his career. However you may feel about him you can't deny that man was something different. His presence was felt on the court and he had all these dudes shook. He was a boogie man for real
Even celebrating in front of Jordan, is a frightening experience 🤣🤣😁😁
I’d hate to play chess with him.. He’s the type that wouldn’t let you leave until he starts winning..
@@gartrellliddell3806he got defeated by ceo john rogers 1 on 1 after he retired in the NBA
i concur...and there is no stats sheet for it
Antoine: celebrates comeback
Jordan: Mess with the Bull, you get the horns!
there is, and always will be one G.O.A.T.!!
Ya Lebron James
@@zackgreen4598goat of flopping maybe 😂
Mike is the GOAT 🐐 but don't sit up here and disrespect Bron bro...he's #2 all time hands down
@@zackgreen4598LeBron is overrated he's 19 for 107 in the clutch under 5 seconds he has a plus minus of negative 84 in the finals his record in the finals is 22-33 , he's 4-6, he has the most missed FGs missed in NBA history he has the most turnovers in NBA history, he has had the most help in NBA history, he has no mid range game he has a ok post game finally, he has gotten most of his points between 1 to 3 feet, tips dunks and layups and free throws, if LeBron can't get to the basket he's going to struggle, LeBron has to many flaws in his game not a good free throw shooter not clutch, Kobe was better wilt was better Hakeem Kareem and magic and bird Duncan too, you dudes are delusional, LeBron has played with 3 superteams and still have a 4-6 record and still have so many excuses
@@chrisdamon1096LeBron ain't #2 and no one is disrespecting him because we don't rank him as high as you, he great but I'm taking Kobe Kareem wilt magic bird Hakeem Duncan and Shaq over LeBron, LeBron has had so much help, he's not clutch he's not great at the Free throw line, he's a above average defender, if he can't get to the rack he's shooting mid 30s from the perimeter, he's always ran his offense so of course his numbers will be higher than the older generation as far as assist versus someone like Kobe who's a sg, Kobe was better on both sides of the ball than LeBron more clutch played in a tougher conference while LeBron played in a weak eastern conference with superteams, since LeBron has came out west he's had a bubble championship in 7 years missed the playoffs twice made the playin and got bounced in the first round, imagine if kobe played with superteams in the east while lebron played in the west after shaq left he wouldn't have won 2 championships like Kobe, lebron is #9
Mark jackson was doing the shimmy before antoine walker lol
Super facts!💯
Rap City's Chris Thomas
So what
Facts!!
@@budgonstopCANELOso what? He just took credit for doing it 1st lol
Me: Smiling
Jordan: You'll pay for this.
Lmao 🤣
@@goatsquadtv8786 😁😁😁😂😂🤣
mj : "smiling, i took that personal"
All season match up, never won a game 😂
Lmaaaoooo
I do agree that anyone that reads this for the first time will find it quite funny😂
Despite the frightening Jordan experience, Walker's shimmy still looks smooth and fun to watch. It is an accomplishment to pull it off in front of Jordan💯
walker was hilarious him and pierce humiliated my sixers in 2002 the clowning was heartbreaking, gave AI ptsd.
"The Last Shimmy"
The goat just posted! 👏🏻
that dance was personal
Getting upset because someone celebrated winning on their homecourt is crazy 🤣🤣🤣
🐐 things
More like mental complex that someone can't see another person happy.
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@DanOvM 💯🍻
@alexisherna💔🥀😿ndezdejesus5269
That was the kinda player MJ was. He needed something to motivate him
He didn't "need" something to motivate him, but when someone crossed the line in his eyes, he went to a different level
The “last dance” 🤣
You wanna know why this wasn't in the last dance because it didn't need to be!! All this " there's nothing wrong with celebrating the win but his mistake was letting Jordan see it" it wasn't even personal for Jordan
Amen
you the best , was watching your videos 2 days ago waiting for the next upload !!!
Mark Jackson started to shimmy. I need you to correct it, sir.
This is Tatum and Brown. My Boston Celtics finished last in the East
Scalibrinni damn near looks dead
That explains where Michelle Beadle went.
Cos tell the story of Mike like a Greek god which is wild since in basketball terms, he was
Its a karma for walker who is now a poor man due to gambling
Everyone shimmys or acts a fool now cause MJ is obviously no longer in the league otherwise they wouldn't do it for many reasons. Not only is he NBAs forever goat and would make you pay but he brought professionalism, heart, and integrity to the game....something today's league KNOWS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT!!........
90's basketball was mostly dominated by manly legends like jordon etc. so when he saw walker celebrating and dancing like a fool, after winning one game. You know that enraged him. Can you Imagine what jordon what've done to todays week era? Who twerk it up all the damm time even before games. Jordon would've dropped 50 on all of them in every game or more. Took the dance right out of them. You know, he would've Really tore em a new one. Real men don't dance.
Pippen not playing in that first win was the difference. They were a diff team with Pippen
Jordan was just mad he lost. If someone had looked at him funny, he would have yelled at him the same way.
I never seen a championship team start on road i been saying this since 98 i swear. I remember this Halloween night my senior yr i recorded this game but left at halftime to go to scandia for hallowed haunted house. Came back home only to see we lost smh..i was crazy asf
No opposing player i know and ever played with was afraid of another opponent in this way. Players have always talked uno what. Oh he gonna make mad. GTFOOH😂
Love Jordan's Revenge.....Great Content....Sub.....Like 2/16/24
Can Newton is a hater and was 75 - 68 - 1 as a starter. Oh wait, a PLAYOFF RECORD OF 3-4. Why would anyone listen to his crap. He was average, at best.
lmao. Jordan should not have gotten mad, they had a big lead and lost it, hahahaha, Antoine deserved his wiggle, the bulls should have won. lmao.
The way you mentioned revenge is way over reacting to that one shimmy. Celtics did their way back to win the game and celebrating is normal and that way you called that MJ stories? Everyone loves MJ but this is way more annoying everytime.
Why do so many sports RUclipsrs do this with their voice? It makes it intolerable to watch. The voice goes up at the end of every single line. It’s crazy. No one talks this way. It sounds ridiculous. So hard to listen to. This would have been a good video but it’s unwatchable.
Aye cosgrove why you take down the one video “ when Saban wins Lebrun wins” you told too much huh
I don't think Jordan should be idolize. He is a dictator. He was only good when they won the game. Earl Strickland is his equivalent in billiards. Sore losers.
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And they say MJ can't average 50 in today's league. Imagine giving MJ a too small taunt from players every game. He'd be in "I took it personal" mode the whole regular season.
He wouldn’t
@@justinholland6132this he would be Demar Derozan 2.0
@@louiejohnbuluran3you don't know basketball
@@unccowboysnation1320 you don’t play basketball rest in peace michael jordan (1963-2024)
Mike could easily average 50 in the league as it is now if he wanted to. He averaged 37 one season in a very much tougher NBA to score in. Defensive 3 seconds and no hand-checking...would be no problem
The shimmy is cringe as hell, I wouldn't want to take credit for it
Crazy thing about that is Antione started brickin 3's after that too.
Always makes my day when Cosgrove posts. Been subbed for almost 4 years now, time flies bruh
The wrath of M.J gettin shimmied on is hilarious LOL
I love when Cosgrove tells a Michael Jordan story🎉
Cosgrove delivers on perfect timing🔥
No player EVER has taken something personal in game 1 of an 82 game season!! That's why he's the 🐐. Game 1 of the season, or game 6 of the finals......he's never seen a game 7 in the finals 😂😂
Jordan would make it personal. It is just the way he is wired. And I love it. I guess it is now common to brag and showboat in the NBA just like the NFL, for showmanship. But I think at that time in the NBA, there is an unwritten rule that you celebrate like that when you already won the championship. Don't teach kids how to devalue winning and taking celebrations as normal as scoring a bucket, that belongs in the streets, not in the highest level of professional sports...see word professional. That's why he only celebrated with a fist clenched like saying "Yes!" rather than showboat.
Dance like no one is watching 😂 don’t let mj see tho
So... the last dance should've included walker 😂😂
I never knew there was a backstory in the aftermath of this game. I remember when this game originally aired & surprisingly, I distinctively remember the score being 22-8. After that, I didn't even wanna watch it anymore. I turned it off & went to sleep. I was SHOCKED when I saw the Celtics had won the next morning. Cosgrove for always diggin up these gems. Big ups to you bro ✊🏾
The last dance😂
Love this channel-)G.O.A.T
I love you Cosgrove ❤
Same
Michael keeps his word . Don’t dance if you can’t face the consequences ….
nice meal i had listening to this
omg i eating chicken with rice right now bro hahahah
@jjj9861 enjoy your meal bro
The yt & meal combo always gone hit
this is the way
Michael Jordan taking things personal or getting in his feelings about certain situations is the one thing keeping the goat debate alive at this point
They just started talking about the next Jordan on Anthony Edwards. Like I said before they will forget about Legroom Quiq.!!!
@@tresmensajesprofeticos2143 You sound crazy
@@DumbwayTay you Will see.!!
@@DumbwayTayNah, he's stating facts. JJ Barea and Jason Terry won't be able to keep Lebron relevant for too long.
NO how about how great he was is is y 🤦🏿♂️.....he has no reason to be in his feelings wtf
Fun Fact: Antione Walker Has A Daughter With Jordan's Ex Teammate Horace Grant's Ex Wife...
Stories like this help prove why mj is the goat . These are some scrubs these are some if the best to do it tell you what a savage mj was.
Remember that mj always looking for those THINGS just motivate herself. Nothing personal
Just one of those GOAT stories, ty cosgrove
Jordan told him he would never win again, and he never won again 😂😂😂😂😂😂 #GOAT TALK 😎💯
So what.
@@boscoj.b. are you ok..just checking...hope you have nice day
@@KrAyZi3GaMinGLMAO
Um he did win again. With the Heat. He won a chip with them.
Moral of everybody story... JUST DON'T PISS MIKE OFF!!!
Mike walking in with a tailor made suit....now they walk in with tailor made purses and dresses
Big Facts
@cincytino9153, Jordan was raised with a father in the house. The modern game has more men raised by baby mamas. Which explains the increase in effeminate behavior.
@ROFusion lol u must be a psychology counselor lol makes sense
They all love to talk about Jordan that's why they compare others to him.
The Goat Cosgrove bro I love your videos man I’ve been watching since 2018 it’s been crazy the coincidence’s and scary videos are my favorite love you bro Goat
I remember that game and I was infuriated! Celtics celebrated like they won the championship.
Antoine thinks he "made it cool to dance in the court" 😂😂😂
HE DID!!!!!! F you talking bout!?
HE DID!!!!!!!
@@earlyreed357 yeah... It's so cool.. just look at ja twerking after every shot. 🤦
Well to be fair a "shimmy" is an iconic celebration done by the likes of curry trae harden etc. but a real nba fan knows who's the og behind it. And like I said it's iconic.
@@Dora_D_Destroyerit’s corny as hell
The lossing generation will never understand
Mark Jaccson did that move alot. I kinda forgot about the rest. Curry does alot of moves(that's just one of them)
Mike took everything personal
Do 1 with Toronto Raptors who beat MJ Bulls the 1st two time they met. But when the media asked MJ why is he having a hard time beating Raptors, the Raptors never beat him again😂😂😂😂
That's the main difference between LeBron and MJ...there have been plenty of current and former players say that no one fears LeBron, nit because he's not great, but because of his personality. Players actually FEARED MJ, and when they show boated against him, like Walker, Miller, Garnett, and other young players, they never did it again. It took practically nothing to get MJ into kill mode...dude was just a straight savage. Kobe and Bird are the closest I have seen to Mike as far as that goes, but no one has truly been on his level. Young people just don't know what they missed, and what a crazy competitive and intense NBA they they missed as well.
MJ - and i took that, personally
man...no wonder no one can compete with MJ in his era (90`s)
Damn. What's wrong with celebrating and dancing shimmy.
Your pump up and have a lot of energy, you need to release it.
Because there is Jordan and you are not allowed to celebrate?! F*ck.
He don't have the right to stop a guy from celebrating unless it threatens his life.
Damn, were human.
Irony is I just got done watching the when players knew they were done video and thought man I can't wait for the next Cosgrove upload
He definitely is a great player but an asshole at the same time. Of course AW would celebrate.. anybody would in their home floor. 🤷♂️
It’s just cuz MJ is the biggest crybaby in NBA history. Everything always has to be about him.
Cried? Bulls won the next game. Jordan never cried. He just had a chip on his shoulder like everyone with 5 or more rings in the league
U really shouldn't repeat bullshit u have heard others say. I makes u sound just a ignorant as they are.
Antoine wanted credit for the shimmy but I thought Mark Jackson was doing that before he even got in the league
I love it, Antoine Walker is one of my favorite Celtics ever he was the first stretch for out there banging down threes he was even in the three-point shootout one year lol.
When the league was about competition…. Even without Pippen there, “doesn’t mean you stop playing”…. the GOAT, no doubt
Sounds to me like Scottie came back and won those next games as a team!! MJ just a scorer who locked down small guards he’s so damn overrated. Didn’t have Scottie for one night and he couldn’t even beat the 15th seed Celtics !
Yall are absolutely clueless about the bulls and its obvious.
Sounds to me this is a lebum fan crying so hard 😂
When mike lost he just went to the locker room when he won he just went to the locker room. What's all the celebration about?
Psycho. 😂
Precisely why Lebum will never be MJ
The way Lefraud acts today. If he did it in front of MJ, current era. MJ 1st half 75 end of game 110 breaking Wilt Chamberlin 100 point record.
That time is the past and with mostly cocaine plumbers
@@johannjoseph7018 You are probably too young, to talk about old time NBA, so sit down kid.
@@JukkaRamo even if your a sperm donar i cant be your son...you old heads are just impeccibly biased..that old game was not balanced and it was just rough
@@JukkaRamo dude go back to skate board practice brew..this is a man sport..
Jordan was the best obviously, but so many players got beaten mentally before they even stepped on the court.
Yeah there isn't there always will be one goat Larry Bird
I remember watching the first game of that season at my grandparents house I just enjoyed every second. The young Celtics roster was a hell of a team. I was so happy they won. Shimmy or not, they deserved that W.
Goes to show that Jordan w/o Scottie Pippen would be nothing and would have not won those 6 rings
You know scottie only played 44 gms that year. They still went 62-20...
Another Cosgrove MOMENT !!!!!!
It's one thing getting upset over a defeat celebration, but the icing is being able to keep a beat down promise on the Victor. MJ was DNA-ED to win & to feed on every defeat.. much respect...twende kazi...🇰🇪
Cosgrove is the goat
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are you related to the person that created unsolved mysteries. john cosgrove? please tell me i need to know
I hated that stupid looking celebration I always wanted someone to shoulder check Antoine during his celebration 😂
This is why I despise the Lebum JORDON GOAT debate. There is no debate. Name a time when a LeFlop had "I took that personal" moment, or a team/player that was threatened by the self proclaimed queen.....I mean king james. Hell even Dirk against had a took it personal moment, when the three suckers of the Heat tried to clown him. Longevity with how many championships, and 1 of those with a asterisk(the bubble). You will never here, "Like James.....I wanna be like James". No humility=no class.
Antoine was from Chicago and used to play pickup with Jordan all the time. It's not like they were strangers on the court. And it's a overall a whole lot of nothing ... not like Jordan went mental in any of those games. BREAKING NEWS: much better championship team beats basement dwelling rebuilding team 3 out of 4 games. Ok?
For me: Its the sinister music like I'm watching a 20/20 special 🤣🤣🤣... 🐐
Me: "MJ takes everything personal."
MJ: "What are you trying to say?"
The last dance was like infinity war, im waiting for engame because his comeback was the biggest thing ever in sports history. The NBA almost felt like it had replacement players without Jordan
Now here is where I'm lost. MJ wish to be identify as the greates. But when he SHOW BOAT its ok. But when a player does it ti him. He acts like a BICTH?
wants credit for showboating after doing his job lol meanwhile cant balance his checkbook what a simp.....nfl still worse every tackle they celebrate....nice hit bro but you gave up a first down
The Shimmy belongs to Mark Jackson, respectfully. Go look at Knicks highlights from the early 90’s.
I remember that game. The Bulls didn’t play that well on opening night and they made the Celtics look like world beaters smh😂😂😂😂. The Celtics were acting like they beat they bulls when they played their best
Anytime Jordan gets talked about today it's all revisionist history. Everyone wants to find dirt on Jordan to discredit his career. However you may feel about him you can't deny that man was something different. His presence was felt on the court and he had all these dudes shook. He was a boogie man for real