'In The Eyes Of The Law, Rivers Assembly Is Left With Only Three Members,' Analysts Debate
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The question they are asking you is very simple. What if the speaker defect, who now declare the seat vacant?
@@raymondsasemota6405 The remaining members will elect a new speaker and the new speaker will declare their sit vacant.
It is just that if speaker and that 25 members had a plane crash, will the house stop to exist or function ? Capital NO!.
Channels TV should know the quality of people they interview
Ogeh is a Bad Student of law. Your teacher Nwokocha has left the set bcos he is ashamed of your understanding of the law
There is nothing to be ashamed of. The law is all about interpretation and every party is at liberty to interpret from his own side of the prism. For an instance, Rufai and Abati would always have a view that is anti-APC, and they are entitled to it. In fact, for me, Oseni Rufai is a nuisance and a disgrace to the fourth estate, yet he is celebrated by quite a number of Nigerians, including your humble self. That's the way issues as this are.
A federal high has given judgement on this issue but has not been appealed by the Jumbo
@@valentineugwuegede2021 Statu quo is not Judgment.
The way Professor Wokocha put it very clearly, even a child would understand. The other commentator, Samuel Ogeh, got it terribly wrong, very terribly wrong.
Martins Amaewhule is the current speaker of the Rivers State House of Assembly as it stands, because of a judgment of the Abuja Federal High Court headed by the honorable Justice Omotosho. The judgment recognizes Amaewhule as the speaker, and it has not been set aside by a higher court.
Maintain status quo means what? At what point in time does this status quo takes place?
You’re an Ottele which means Anus.
Status quo will start from the court order that stopped them from parading themselves as lawmakers.
It was this order that led Amaewhule to go to court to challenge the o.
So, your lawmakers have defected to APC and sworn affidavits to support their claim of defections.
So, you are an Ottele.
That's not correct
YOUR BRAIN CORRECT WELL WELL
@@Steve_Maputo Abuja High Court has not given Judgement. It was just status quo that their sit should not be declared vacant, which is another evidence of their defection.
This man is bias.He's pro.Wike.
The judiciary has gone mad in Nigeria , what a pity. It is worse than the animal kingdom o.
Who will help this country...? 😮
This is what you get when you invite a Politician against a professor of Law in Nigeria
OMG, this guy succeeded in bamboozling the anchors. Please visit arise TV and meet Rufai and Abati. The prof was ashamed and left
There is nothing to be ashamed of. The law is all about interpretation and every party is at liberty to interpret from his own side of the prism. For an instance, Rufai and Abati would always have a view that is anti-APC, and they are entitled to it. In fact, for me, Oseni Rufai is a nuisance and a disgrace to the fourth estate, yet he is celebrated by quite a number of Nigerians, including your humble self. That's the way issues as this are.
Mr. Ogeh is such a poor student of the law. He has been schooled once again by the Prof but he's still not getting it. All lawyers are not equal. 😂
Very simple issue or question and this Man is moving in circles. If the speaker is part of those that defected, can he still give effect the issue in question?
The student is teaching his Professor wow.The professor missed it totally,who was the speaker at the time of the purported defections was made and who is to declare their seats vacant?
Wike went deep to acquire the political structure of rivers state ...if fubara did not step back the people of rivers would havr been sold without unknowingly to them ...just look at the support he has in the govt structure of rivers...as a people we need to take back our country just too few people are running it for their benefit
We talk about confusion everything out of control. We're out of control 😂😂😂😂
I think Mr Ogeh is still a law student because he has no clue of law and the state of law.
Why can't the court treat the issue of the defection once and for all in accordance with the Constitution. So which party are martins and his men now? What do you mean by assuming that there was defection, was there not defection which the speaker himself was among the defectors,?
The court has no power to declare the seat vacant according to the law. It is only the speaker but the speaker is among the defectors. So the remaining 3 members have declared their seat vacant. Governor should deal with the 3 remaining members pending on when INEC is ready to conduct bye election to replace them.
In eyes of the law, the 3members made up the house. So, for now they are the legal members of the RSH
Speaking nonsense. They defected. You are asking to wait to form a quorum. A quorum from people that defected?
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Exactly. That's were the journalist finished him. You can see how he was struggling. What he is invariably saying is that although they have defected, constitutional provision declaring their seat vacant cannot take effect because they are the majority. That's rubbish
Who decides whether they had properly defected? Is it not the judiciary?
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These Nigerian Lawyers should stop misleading the public because they are called Lawyers. Even a lay man like me knows that there is a clear difference between someone vacating a position and someone who is being suspended from a position. The yeye Lawyer foolishly drops the functional word 'vacate' to start using the word 'suspended'. In the context discussed are both functional words one and the same? Nigerian Lawyers na waooo.
Appeal court which is the Higher Court has pronounced Ameawhule as the Authentic speaker...case closed...dancing around a lost battle is waste of time.
@@gideonbernimoore7152 pls tell them
@@gideonbernimoore7152 That is a big lie
@@a_excellencyt you dont need to Agree...but Today Amawhule represent Rivers in the judiaciary meeting with all states speakers
@@gideonbernimoore7152 It does not change anything bro. They are gone!
@@a_excellencyt Gone where? If the are are gone why Did Fubara rushed to state High court to secure order last Monday to Bar chief Judge in rivers not to accept impeachment Notice from Amaewhule an co? That shows you how potent and real the 25 Lawmakers are....Defection in itself does not mean Automatic seat loss, section 109 g still makes an important clause that a presiding Judge has to declare it vacant, Not even any speaker, so Don't be deceived, The State High Court that Declared their seat Vacant has been quashed by the Appeal court. As it stands with the Apeal court Judgement Amaewhule is the Recognised Rivers speaker...
If the speaker and 25 members of the Rivers State House of Assembly have suspended four members of the House , and the Speaker and the 25 Members who suspended the 4 members have defeated, left their seats vacant, how is this 4 members still under suspension. The 4 members are no longer under suspension rather they are the legitimate members of the Rivers State House of Assembly for now.
The constitution declear the speaker's seatautomatically vacant upon defection. Mr Ogeh, please stick that into your empty legal head. Your argument is so vague that your teacher is ashamed of his time spent teaching you law
To parade themselves as what?....I don't understand this Assistant Professor
The professor differs with mr ogeh, what the prof said is clear, the issue of defection is not a court affairs, once the legislators defected and their seats were declared vacant by the chairman it remained vacant. They can only approach the court if they feel their motives were based on consitutional facts. we were told they even sworn to an affidavit that they've defected. Mr Ogeh is not economical with the fact.
Sits dicleared vacant by who? By suspended members?
According to Court, parliament has no power to sack or suspend elected members of house. Only the court can do that.
@@a_excellencytThat's not true, the law states that if elected parliament members decamp from the party that elected them to another party they shall loose their seats, and the chairman shall declare their seats vacant. You guys should take sentiments out of this matter. The said decamped members sworn to an affidavit that they've defected and celebrated on national tv chanting on your mandate we stand. They were misled by whoever is leading them. By law they ceased to be members of the River State house of assembly.
@@krisahopem We are saying same thing. I'm referring to people that are saying the Pro Fubara lawmakers were suspended before defection took place.
@@olubunmikuye4455 The House can't suspeñd an elected member of parliament according to Court. Such suspension is illegal.
The declaration of vacancy or the process of a person vacating his seat is completely a legislative affair.. it does not leave any room for Judicial participation
Professor Ritchard Wokocha
Go back to school Ogeh
Is it possible for the speaker who was among the defected members to declare their seats vacant, in this situation, what is going to happen, and who then should declare those seats vacant?
Prof, you contract yourself, sir . The house didn't declare the seats vacant
I think Professor Richard Nwokocha made a clear analysis and he is right if only the court can adhere to his analysis
Sits dicleared vacant by who? By suspended members? This Rivers State people una get problems
This lawyer is obviously an APC member
If you suspended some people and went ahead to defect and thereby lose your seats, who then would have been in the house to vacate the suspension without leaving any vacuum in government with regards to the assembly?
Why are the defected law makers not challenging the real issue. “ You left the PDP so you lost your seat”. Instead they are busy going around to look for technical loopholes. Matins should go to court and challenge declarations of his seat vacant and stop beating around the bush d technicalities.
What is prof. Saying? Definitely not the Law.
Very accurate and unbias analysis.
The red cap chief looks like Transformer Wike 😂😂😂😂
You can't eat your cake and still have it.
The 27 law Makers have defected and their seats are vacant, period!!
I'm just wondering what kind of night school Ogeh attended to graduate as a lawyer????😅
Lawyer Oge.......two third of the remaining three members is two. And therefore they meet the contitutional requirement to choose a speaker and move on. The house can not shut down because twenty seven members on their own volition decided to vacate their seats. Na waoooo Naija Lawyers.
You go explain tire, you guys will learn in the hard way
Fubara should go and hide his face he lost woefully
Ottele
Samuel Ogeh in his analysis in this commentary got it so terribly wrong; So wrong, that It is actually very shocking to listen to his analysis.
What kind of Professor is this? Talking vaguely without making any sense.😥
So much sence from the Prof.
You're the one unable to pay attention.
Na so u dull, wey u no fit make sense out of what the prof is saying
Ogeh guy is clearly bias on the matter...
I am very pained that the people you called learned men in Nigeria are most mumu. The Speaker who defected to other party without cogent reason is no more member of the state house. You don't need a court to declare it the Nigeria constitution has said so.
Am sorry you’re wrong, the law only says the Speaker of the house or the Court can pronounce their seats vacant. But the problem is that the current assumed speaker was not the Speaker known by law because only 2/3 of the actual House of Assembly can elect a new speaker. So it’s a real problem now because with this judgement the old Speaker is the Speaker of the Assembly simple.
@@phizzyaasA court in Port Harcourt recognized Edison before the pronouncement
@@victorokolie8232 Am sorry you are wrong because that was not the prayers asked by the plaintiff at the High Court. Also, the Appeal Court just said the decision by the High Court is null and void. Please let me give you an assignment, investigate how a Speaker of the House of Assembly is nominated. Then you will be able to answer the question yourself.
@@phizzyaas My friend anyhow he emerges, as long as a court of competent Jurisdiction in Nigeria recognizes him as speaker, he"s the speaker.....
I wasted my time listening to this nonsense
This is typical nonsense. I just wonder how people will come out on national Television and be speaking evil without shame and fear of God 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. You people should speak the truth and save Rivers.
Only God knows the kind of weed some of Nigerian judges take before writing and reading judgments. They have also decided to aid politicians in multiplying their confusion since they have made judiciary their tools and burdened them with useless litigations. Judiciary wants to be showing them shege with confused judgments and this is one of them
Who brought you here?
This former Assembly member is terrible. how did he become a lawyer. Channels pls check the quality of people you bring to the studio to talk about issues. You can see Prof have to leave, it aporin, disgraceful and in shambles.
Professor 😊
Nigeria is confused country mumu constitutional what can law is this
Before oko live that office it is when he comes from supr court the gov himself can not use matins now because if he do that he fo he hand
Maintain Status quo
Your purported Description of the program doesn't represent the argument of the serious participant that was available. It was shameful to elevated the opinion of the person who never made his time and thing needed for the program succes available above the opinion of the person that sacrificed his time and made everything needed available to participate and made the program a successful one. Stop using your media to misleading. Nothing wrong if you have your favourite but it wasn't professional to force it on the populist.
Mr Oge is a full pro wike that is why he is derailing fr the main question.
This mañ call oge is the problem of our country calling white black so so bad
Lawyer Oge.......you sound like a charge and bail Lawyer. Stop exposing your ignorance of the Law. Use the word 'vacated' and stop saying suspended because the twenty seven Law makers vacated their seats making them no longer members of the house. They were not suspended. And if they were, like you claim, tell us by who.
Ogeh you are a sokoto lawyer
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Hahahahahahahaha
The defection of the former members of the Rivers State House of Assembly should not be trivialized because the Nigerian constitution is superior to the constitution of the house of assembly
Ogeh you are very bad student of law
The professor is a teacher under an institution controlled by state governor, so he must protect his job to support Fubara.
This Mr Oge is very empty
Well done Ogeh for tutoring your teacher. Prof needs a refresher crash course
This guy is dull..this oge guy😀😀
Can APC stop this clowning. INEC should please conduct a fresh election result writing exercise in Rivers State. Enough of this nonsense. The press/media need to stop giving them room for this display of complete mockery of the constitution of the federation.
After months what are you saying fubara should ready to live the government house
This Professor is a very dubious individual
Because he's telling us what the law says?
No. The Prof is stating facts. 😂
Oloriburuku Igbo animal everywhere commenting
Go to TVC
Express your views leave igbos out this
Channels presenters, I feel you people should educate yourselves more on how to quiz guest...
I have not asked the law guy speaking everywhere the right questions... Have u stood your grounds on IF THE SPEAKER DEFECTS what's happens??
You people should seek direction from Arise presenters specifically Rufai
Ogeh is bad student, am not a lawyer, let veiw this way, God for bid, what if the 25 law makers were traveling and had a plane crash and all die, the remaining members will carry on the legislative business, until replacement is made