It's true tho! As someone who has studied cults extensively, some of the best cults out there have the people that they want already picked out. Sure it could just be that they have a select type of person that they want in their cult and you just happen to fit that model, but if they are truly a good and legitimate cult they will know how to find these types of people that they want. Typically they prey on like younger people, mostly girls, who have had troubled lives or feel like that they've never belonged so cults know where to find these people at. Many people don't know that but the chances that you've already talked to someone in an actual cult is pretty common, thank you internet. Chances are though the person you were talking to thought you weren't a good fit for their cult so they just let you go. Insane how our world is right?
Speaking as a former channer, despite what the internet thinks 4chan is REALLY not that smart. 90% of it is just edgy shitposter teens and NEETs, but because of the like 10% that do stuff like dox people, the Cicada puzzles, find lost media, and triangulate the location of flags based on bushes (real thing /pol/acks did in 2017) people think they're a bunch of IT geniuses and hackers.
Another PETA flash game that I remember fondly is the Cooking Mama parody. You slaughter and desecrate some turkey for Thanksgiving and the end-product is purposefully shown to be disgusting. But all of a sudden the game changes gears and you made some tofu for Thanksgiving instead. I don't know what they were thinking either.
YES!! And it segwayed into a documentary about how the people at Butterball Turkey would SA the turkeys. I was 9 when I played. My mom was horrified when we went to the grocery store and I told her not to buy that brand because they "threw them by their privates"
He often ends distressing topic videos this way, and I think it's really important and comforting. After the dread I felt in the serial killer icebergs and such, hearing his reassurance that the world isn't like that in the grand scheme really saved my day.
@@chuckmcluckin6082 Yea I’ve watched all the others too. I guess since I’m a gamer and I haven’t heard of most of these it just hit a little harder. This man has some of the most beautiful content on the platform. I can’t wait to see the mysterious projects he speaks of.
How about “the disturbing human iceberg”? Not just an iceberg of murderers, but an iceberg of all the strangest and scariest individual humans throughout history? With an emphasis on the weirdest things, like not just killers, but people who performed strange experiments on themselves, or people with strange fixations that they built their entire lives around
i was gonna say you gotta include the guy who drilled into his own skull to make his brain work better, but it turns out that was multiple guys. trepanning and especially self-trepanation is wild.
This whole video is me opening the fridge, finding a brown paper bag that says "Dead dove, don't touch", opening it and saying, "I don't know what I expected."
If I remember correctly, one of the games made by PETA was about a seal trying to escape seal hunters. You had to navigate through a sort of maze and if you hit the wall and got a game over, they showed a picture of a seal that had been skinned. Great childhood memories.
There was also a Mario-themed game called Super Tanooki Skin 2D, where you play as a skinned tanooki animal chasing a bloodied Mario wearing your skin like the actual tanooki suit in the official Mario games
I remember seeing the baby mlp pony abusing game and that cooking mama peta game on yt. honestly looking back I’d rather not even be able to watch tv when I was little.
The thing about Postal 2 (main game, sans the DLCs) is that "going postal" is _completely_ optional. The missions are just chores, like buying milk and getting your paycheck. You could literally beat the game without k!lling or even harming a single soul, even when those around you have gone postal themselves. Postal 1, tho, is a much different story.
Giving Postal 1 the benefit of the doubt, you only have to kill threats. Plus the cops being as careless and willing to bring out explosives combined with the player exercising a "no killing bystanders" style of play could lend credence to maybe there being an actual plague going on in it lmao. Postal 1 overall is a strange game, but the fact there's an achievement in the Redux version for not killing any civilians, I think it's safe to say that the prior paragraph might actually be the canon explanation. You don't bring a rocket launcher to evict someone after all.
That's what I found funny about it. I bought it cause I heard about the crazy things you could do in it. But it's literally so benign unless you make it crazy.
Not entirely true. You can do it non-lethally if you're very, very good, but in the redneck and butcher missions, you are fully expected to kill everyone. Apocalypse weekend ends with PD setting off a nuke. And there are multiple missions within the sequal/DLC Paradise Lost that need you to kill people. Like I'm pretty sure you cannot progress unless you kill Zach Ward.
@@hanatarash666 Yep, especially in the original. In Redux, it lends credence to there actually being kind of a hate plague in all fairness. And based on a number of things in the case of Redux, Postal Dude 100% is afflicted as well.
Important note, 177 is satire on an old Japanese law regarding SA. This old law deems that if a woman was sufficiently 'pleasured' in the act, then it wasn't actually non-consensual and it isn't deemed illegal. That's why the game has that good and bad ending, it's satirizing Japan's deeply problematic r*pe culture.
@@manashield64 What I think is funny is that a theory I've never heard before: that a woman's body can prevent pregnancy in cases of rape, is somehow labeled right-wing. I've heard a lot of political talk these past few years and hear a new one every day, somehow attributed to one side or the other, increasingly terrible from the last theory.
And yet young boys are still raped by grown women today and most reactions to it is "what a lucky kid" or "I wish that would have happened to me when I was his age". Even the media refers to it as "an affair" instead of what it actually is. Statutory rape. Then you have people on all sides of the political spectrum who genuinely believe that grown men cannot be raped by women even if they were drugged or beaten. At least women and young girls being raped is treated with the seriousness and stigma it deserves.
that last one actually terrifies me, the fact that he not only fantasized about doing something so horrific, but that he used doom as an outlet to practice going about it over and over again. absolutely terrifying
germany had a similar incident and the kid recreated his school in cs1.6... leading to a HUUUGE discussion about counterstrike being banned all over central europe etc. etc. its always the same, blame the medium not the individual because its easier to shift the blame to a tool, than the user of the tool.... looking at you america... and guns.
@@DeathnoteBB the only reason gun CRIME exists, is gun LAWS. apart from that, the people that wanna do it, do it. no matter if you ban em or not. you gotta remember laws only stop people frok doing things if they adhere to laws in the first place.
@@DeathnoteBB banning guns doesnt eliminate the guns, theyll just get em illegally. drugs are banned and people still do drugs. its actually a very simple concept i dont know where you are hung up on? all youll do is create a new illegal market, or make the existing one bigger.
Does anyone else remember a game called “can your pet” where you raise a pet chick and take care of it until you abruptly kill it and “can” the pet into canned food?
Yes I do omg I remember thinking it was it so stupid and funny. Now that you mention it, that kinda does sound like some shit PETA would do but it didn’t have that vibe at all like the PETA games that Wendy showed for, it seemed very satirical and designed to screw with the player.
omg i remember that. my cousins had me play it when i was like 7 or 8 edit: I JUST WENT TO GOOF AROUND ON IT AGAIN AND HOLY SHIT- IT'S SO MUCH WORSE THAN I REMEMBERED??? i'm blaming this game for all my issues now wtfffff ohmy god.
Wendigoon, you recently did a five-hour deep dive into a Cormac McCarthy novel. Please don’t apologize for “lack of uploads”. It’s always a treat when you upload.
32:11 it's important to recognize that Eric and Dylan weren't really bullied. They regularly bullied gay kids themselves and Eric was reported as being a psychopath narcissist who didn't care if he died
@@melonthemelonsI realized this after watching the angel types, bible theory iceberg, and the Brown Mountain lights video. Hearing the folk stories and legends of the Brown Mountain lights was so memorable and I could tell that he had a deep respect for the myths and tales of old. It is really nice to see a RUclipsr into finding out the truth of a topic while also respecting the traditional values around it.
I remember playing JFK Reloaded in middle school, and getting so bored trying to recreate the money shot that I started going as off script as possible to make it more amusing. It wasn’t till my hundredth or so playthrough that I started to wonder, wait, is this game trying to tell me LHO couldn’t have done this? And then I fell down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole that, twenty years later, led me to this channel. So now we’ve come full circle.
I’m actually a bit surprised that “The Slaying Of Sandy Hook Elementary” wasn’t on this list. I get the Columbine RPG one but the Sandy Hook one was far more shocking to me because the whole game is literally just the player playing as the shooter and playing through the events of the shooting, from where the shooter kills his mother through to when he ends his own life after the massacre. The guy who made it even fought one of the victim’s parents online over it, said the game was meant to “be about the importance of gun control” and even tweeted out “The liberals don’t like me because I’ve disrespected the dead. The conservatives don’t like me because of the gun control message.” Edit: Fun Fact! Just found out the guy who made the V-Tech Rampage was the same guy who made The Slaying Of Sandy Hook Elementary. So I don’t think I could ever trust that he was being serious about the gun control message.
I hate people like this tbh. Absolutely people will be mad when you disrespect murdered children you freak. Very different from getting mad over gun control holy shit
After the V-Tech game, the dude actually became super liberal and it was made way more artistically and with a song about gun control. He genuinely changed I think, however Im a poor judge of character
Just so you guys know, a group made a RUclips series where they found the creator of Kanye Quest 3030 (called Finding Yeezus) and they found out it was literally a school project, creator then went back and added the extra layers for fun. Also they’re Australian and the guys got the assistance of comedy group Aunty Donna as well it’s a silly series
If I were to suggest the next "disturbing thing iceberg" I'd say it should be disturbing books I absolutely loved all your book breakdown videos and there are so many disturbing and outright vile books out there that could easily fill an iceberg chart to the brim with content
I hate to brown nose but I greatly support this. This absolutely sounds like a fantastic idea and it sounds like it's right up Wendigoon's alley. Hopefully he sees this.
Wendigoon is the only content creator that will post 8 hours of content in a month then apologize for the lack of content. Seeing a new video always makes my day. Thank you.
tbf, 8 hours of content in a month is somewhat low compared to many other youtube content creators, though those creators are often in different genres that can support more content like gaming channels
@@timcal2136 idk about that (genuinely) but sure, though wendigoons content has pretty amazing quality AND he post 8 + hours of content in a month which is pretty great
Yeah it's like he compares himself to youtubers whose vids are ten minutes long. The difference is they are providing an entertainment for a dinner or a bathroom break, and when Wendigoon posts it means you already have plans for today
Fun fact about postal, you can kill people, urinate on them, shove a cat on the end of a gun, all of the above, however, is purely at the player's discretion; it was the developers' intent to have the player choose exactly how violent the Dude acts, as he/she does not NEED to kill anyone to complete the game's objectives.
@@Kyryyn_Lyyh "how would you feel if someone called you a lunatic" after youve just chopped someone to pieces with a machete never fails to make me laugh
Another note about Postal: In the original release of Postal 1, it ends with the protagonist trying to shoot up a playground. It was removed from the re-release because the developer said it was originally put there because it was a completely unthinkable thing to do, and it's not anymore because we see things like it in the news all the time.
@@SpoopyTurtle44 He doesn't turn the gun on himself, he simply passes out and is put in a mental asylum with his hands strapped together. (You can still shoot in the level, but canonically i'd say he couldn't pull the trigger)
@@theultimatetrashman887 You can't shoot in the level, as the level is actually a cutscene where the postal dude is running around trying to shoot them, although he does shoot them his bullets have no effect and he collapses on the ground.
I would love to hear wendigoon’s take on fear and hunger. Such a unique blend of terrifying horror concepts and fascinating lore. I just discovered it pretty recently and I love it (even though it would most likely need to be heavily censored for yt).
Same! To me it feels like the disturbing aura of it has more substance than some of these shock games. Even though a decently large chunk of Fear and Hunger is shock, the art style and the monster designs are pretty damn good. I'd also love if he covered Dark wood, that game is amazing too.
He signs off a lot of his videos about disturbing/distressing subjects with disclaimers along those lines, and I think that's not only important, but comforting. Sometimes when you're exploring the depths like this, it CAN be hard to remember the good in the world.
There are only two kind of persons who believe that to be true. Those very unexperirnced who just found their first chain of disturbing events, and those so experienced they know how true it is and keep diving deeper.
I cannot describe how happy I am to see Wendigoon doing icebergs again! Its like a full-circle moment and fills me with so much nostalgia for some reason. Damn.
Kanye Quest 3030 actually ended up getting a solid conclusion by Grouse House's series "Finding Yeezus". They definitively found the original creator and were able to ask them about it. It ended up going in some pretty wacky directions. They ended up getting even further than Nexpo did.
And mamamax covered it too, only he did send his info but found nothing and then dug deeper than that. I'd recommend watching it, that's how I found out about it well before this video came out.
@@fern_g0rlwell I find the whole album particularly disturbing when you listen knowing the whole story behind it. Listening to the first few songs knowing how terribly the character ends (and even starts to be honest!)(yknow kidnapped, drugged out of her mind to do sex work then murdered and eaten by her lover) is particularly disturbing. Like how eery is thoroughfare when you put it in context. And don't even get me started on Ptolomea where we have a dying Ethel pleading for her life with someone who sounded like perfection itself two songs ago. And so much more but eh, at the end of the day not everyone finds the same things disturbing and I'm not good enough at explaining things to correctly explain to you my reasoning(sorry for talking too much, I really like this album too ! And sorry for potential spelling mistakes)
An icberg on distubing books would be neat. Hell, you could make two videos in that same topic. One containing banned books, and another with unrestricted books.
Not only would it be nice to see him cover the disturbing book iceberg (there is one that exists), but in my personal opinion, the biggest video on it is not that good. It's just covering each entry, and giving a one or two sentence summary on rapid fire
Personally, the most disturbing game I've ever played was The Closing Shift by Chinchilla's Art. The idea of being stalked was the most terrifying thing to me.
I love how Wendigoon can talk about the most absolutely grotesque, disgusting, and terrifying things in the world, but rock a bright Hawaiian shirt and crack a joke here and there. My favorite outtake of his was in one of Nick Crowley’s icebergs (which is how I found Wendi), he tried to pronounce a name and the music just cuts off and he’s like “Screw it, I can’t pronounce this. Move on to the story and go back to the creepy persona.”
as someone who knows a bit about music, the disturbing music iceberg sounds like a very good idea, because there’s a bunch of music out there that genuinely has led to me not being able to sleep at night. there’s already a few artists on my mind that could fit on a video like that, mainly lingua ignota, whitehouse diamanda galas, uboa, gnaw their tongues, and dragged into sunlight are true artists that first come to mind when i think of disturbing musical artists edit: there’s a few i forgot that could also be good for the iceberg, have a nice life, xiu xiu, stalaghh, and giles corey. there’s also black midi, however they’re disturbing in like, a very dark comedy way lol
Interesting point about the first Postal: before each mission you’re shown a page from the “protagonists” diary and each entry gets progressively more disturbing and demented, showing the characters gradual decent into complete insanity
The original ending of 1 is so fucking good just because it was intended to be, at the time, an impossible edge-lord fake out that couldn’t happen in reality. Yet it gad to be changed, because school shootings happened a lot more often in the late 90’s - early 00’s. With that in mind the ending is even more off-putting and impactful imo
@@BigBossultrastealththe creator explixitely said that the kindergarten level was supposed to be the most demented and out of this world act postal guy could make... yet, here we are
@@BigBossultrastealth You don’t kill kids in the ending, it’s literally impossible. It was meant to be a “oh my god are they really gonna do that?” kind of ending where it’s actually impossible to do what’s implied, a school massacre. It’s the point where the original Postal Dude breaks and whatever fantasy or mental breakdown he’s having puts him down. The creator changed the ending because at the time a school shooting was an impossible nightmare situation that could only be dreamt of by edge lords. Then shortly after it was proven that it wasn’t a nightmare but just really depressing reality, so they changed the ending to something that fits more in line with the implied backstory of the original Postal Dude.
Dude I love that your videos, though disturbing are like normal, you see a lot of sensationalism around horror videos and people using "dark scary voices" and "scary music" and it's all very cheap but with you it's like having a conversation with a cool dude, and as someone who is quite sensitive to horror and disturbing content it makes it very comforting, keep it up man 👍
@@jaybarbieri8619Definitely. Although they are kind of a greedy company, people don't give them enough credit for when they DO make a good game. I'm definitely not saying that Rockstar's good games are underrated, but I don't think it's fair to only bash on games like GTA V and not actually give them credit for games like RDR 2.
I am surprised you didn't talk about the worst PETA game. It was a mario bros clone and followed 2 chickens (red and green for mario and luigi), that would just go around finishing the level. The twist was that half way through the game you'd unlock messages from "toad", these messages were legit just videos of industrial chicken butchery uncensored. So as a child I was pretty traumatised watching chicken twitch as they got chopped up in these factories.
I like eating meat, I dont really hold any strong opinions about people that do OR dont eat meat, but factory farms are an atrocious, disgusting thing that I wish would go away.
@@Ilovefrenchfrieswoohoo I played that as a child and thought that was the original Cooking Mama and that the friendly non-violent Cooking Mamas were sequels. Needless to say when I found out Cooking Mama was NOT a game about brutally killing animals I was shocked.
In defence of Postal 2 - you can complete the game without killing anyone or doing any of the “horrible things” game is desined to be as violent as player wants it to be, but you’re always offered a non-violent approach Also re: Manhunt - I thought in the end it turned out that the victim had owned the game not the killer
yea that was the case, the victim was the one that owned the game, not the killer. that was found a little after but was swept under the rug to push the anti video games message i suppose.
Yeah, him saying that the violence is the point is sorta missing the joke, postal is actually less violent than GTA as you can play through Postal 2 without hurting a single person or animal, you even get an achievement for it as a reward, while with GTA you *cannot* finish any of the games in the series without killing dozens of people.
Not to mention Postal 2 pretty much entirely exists to make fun of the media attention the first game got. The first game is actually a little disturbing with diary entries of your paranoid schizophrenic character being displayed inbetween the levels where the goal is to murder everyone. Hatred is a really shitty ripoff of it with it even ending with you nuking the town like in postal. Postal 1 is like a 5/10 game but I actually kinda love Postal 2
Its crazy how many "questionable" and downright horrid games came out before rating systems and restrictions were put in place for video games. I took an Evolution of Video Games course last semester in uni and we briefly went over some of the insane games that came out 80s and 90s, a few of which were mentioned in this video. Its also interesting to see the sort of "revival" a lot of games, similar to ones in the first few tiers, have had recently. Especially with the boom in indie-horror games we've seen in the past few years.
The thing I love about wendigoon is that he can take you to the most horrific places with him and you still feel safe and cared for because he just radiates that decency and good. He's our Virgil in this Inferno.
i am 27 and have been scared of virtually everything (could not watch ANY disturbing media at all), i watch your videos for a while now and can indulge in this "genre" of content in a safe and respectful way, thank you so much
yeah i really like wendigoon’s style of just storytelling and showing some not graphic pictures/videos, and the way he’s very careful and thoughtful of how he presents stuff. i like consuming media talking about disturbing stuff but man do i get somewhat easily disturbed anyway 😅 watching videos from youtubers like nexpo makes me a little uneasy because he delves straight into the media with the sounds on and all that but i still looove his work, i just have to be in the right mindset for it lol
I'm 43 and trauma has dispelled any enjoyment of being spooked for me so this channel and Hannah the horrible are just the best. I can learn and not add to my nightmares.
The closest thing I can think of that is similar to the Everos and the whole you can only play at night concept is Boktai, which was a game boy advance game that had a light sensor built into the cartridge. This was used to charge the weapons in the game which are used to kill vampires, so sort of the reverse of Everos' concept. I think it also used the time of day and that sort of thing to have an effect on the game. Probably not the game Hideo Kojima is as well known for now.
Literally the first game to pop in mind with that comparison. Lol Games with unique time restrictions are fascinating when they tie into the in-game lore.
There’s a game called Dreamy Rainbow 2 (sequel to the first) which can also only be played at night. It was an fan made MLP game inspired by another fan creation called Luna game. If the player tried playing during the day Rainbow Dash would appear in a brightly lit level where Pinkie Pie would tell her to come back at night. I also remembered that Luna game could only be played once, once the game is over it deletes itself and I believe you can’t download it again with the same device and email. Pretty cool tbh I wish more games nowadays had cool and unique was to spook people like that Izzzyzzz has a good videos on obscure internet horror
There was a really cool horror game that used a lot of live-action video called Hotel 626 (and later Asylum 626). It could only be played between 6pm and 6am. Part of it involved calling a real phone number. Sadly it was taken off the internet years ago but you can find a few playthroughs on RUclips! Also it was all a weird marketing ploy for Doritos
@@apenguinnamedabraham that sounds like quite the game 😅 but thx sounds super cool reminds me of the whole “hey pea brain you teleport” thing in Tumblr a few years back
the Kanye Quest one turned out to be a joke by a teenager, there's a (bad) documentary series by Grouse House called 'Finding Yeezus" where they contact the now-adult developer (skip to the last episode (5) cos literally nothing contributes to the 'investigation' until then)
If you're wanting to change it up from icebergs, doing something on the Satanic Panic of the 80's/90's might be a good fit. I think it'd be interesting to see discussion of it from someone who's still in the faith
I second this. As a metalhead, it’s interesting how much the satanic panic influenced the sound and culture of metal, and how some bands (like Venom) used the panic to become insanely influential within the scene
@@scareraven9669 don’t forget how reaction to the Satanic Panic in the metal scene culminated in the “Norwegian Black Circle” enacting real life violence in the name of Satan lol
After just getting done with the manhunt of Eddie Munson in Stranger Things, and remembering the real life people he was based off of, and seeing the absolute damage it still does to this day... Yes. I remember kids in elementary being so ingrained in the satanic panic still due to their parents fears that they'd attack kids for wearing black, or mentioning paganism, it was wild shit.
"good" should be interchangable with "competent" when referring to a cult. being "good" at it, means you're effective and precise. come to think of it, i think it's interchangable when talking about [insert number[ of humans or living things. being a "good" worker, a "good" friend etc. i hope nobody thinks any cult is actually good in the sense of right and wrong. and i don't think it's creepy, it's a relief, it means they know enough to not mistake you for someone they wish to harm. i bet i'm recorded in cult databases and i'm fine with that. if they know i'm not in the way, or an adversary they're after, they can't make that mistake. a competent cult is an invisible cult.
@@swanclipper They meant "good" like they good at doing sinister things like how a I might called a serial killer "good" if they know how to kill as many people as they can.
Something absolutely vital to add about the whole PETA thing: People use the terms Animal Rights and Animal Welfare interchangeably, especially when talking about groups such as PETA. However, these two terms mean WILDLY different things, and the difference could not be more important when talking about caring for animals. Animal Welfare (AW) is the mindset that animals must be treated humanely and with respect, acknowledging that they have basic rights (confusing, I know, but bear with me). AW is used by the vast majority of professionals in the animal sciences field, from pet owners to vets all the way up to the AZA, which is the group in charge of all accredited zoos and aquariums in the U.S. Animal Welfare focuses on the wellbeing of the animal, ensuring that its needs are met and that it can live its happiest, healthiest life. Animal Rights, on the other hand, is an extremist notion that animals and humans should live completely separate, something that is not only ridiculous, but also flat-out impossible. One of the best examples of animal rights vs. welfare is actually found in the Pokemon Black and White games, with Team Plasma representing the Animal Rights team (“humans and pokemon should live separately”) and the trainer representing the Animal Welfare team (“humans and pokemon should coexist and help each other”). PETA falls flat into the Animal Rights category. PETA believes that humans and animals should live completely separate, and that includes animals that literally cannot live without humans. PETA believes that it is inhumane to own any animal at all, including cats or dogs. PETA believes that humans should not own any animal, despite the fact that domesticated species do, in fact, exist. In fact, PETA would rather see your pet dead than living happily with you. Not only is PETA flawed on a fundamental level, but they are also involved in a whole list of controversies that honestly deserve an iceberg all on their own. Here is just the very tip of PETA’s iceberg, which can all be found with less than five minutes of googling. - PETA kidnapped/kidnaps pets off of people’s porches and euthanizes them. This has happened multiple times. - PETA shelters have insanely high euthanasia rates, upwards of 95% - PETA made the entirely untrue claim that drinking milk causes autism, and did it in one of the most ableist and offensive ways possible - PETA has connections to terrorist organizations and a known arsonist - PETA has, on multiple occasions, compared meat farms to the HOLOCAUST, and eating meat to being antisemitic, which is ironic considering their own antisemitism And SO much more. So no, PETA is not a group trying to help animals or any of that bullshit. They serve their own greedy motives, hidden behind a self-righteous mask.
We know a lot about PETA's controversies, but I have never heard anyone talk about PETA's CEO. What in the actual hell is the CEO up to? With the controversies, this just proves that the higher you are in organisation, the least likely you'll be convicted for the crimes you've commited. This goes especially for responsibility, as a corporation unlike a person is more than just a single person running an entire network of businesses, its a multitude of people involved in the matter who have their own ideas and biases towards others. Even if they are all linked to a serious controversy or allegation, they all contributed to some part of it, and not all. Its like a bad cake that a group of people made, each part of the bad cake was done by each person. So because of this, if most deny their actions, or are less severe than others, they can get away with most of the potential crimes all they want without the fear of more losses than benefits, which in turn keep the corporation still relatively alive. Even if some people are lost, the CEO can replace them because there's more than one human on this Earth. Even if the person knows the truth and wants change, if the CEO of said corporation are nefarious, they can topple them down like nothing and keep their status-quo up. Welcome to the dark side of capitalism y'all.
Theres a special kind of beauty behind being told of the most disturbing and traumatizing wonders of the world by a man wearing a red button up shirt with lemons on it. The juxtaposition is truly a work of art.
A neat thing I learned about postal: in the remake or something they removed the original ending, which was a cutscene where a school shooting plays out, when asked why they removed the ending they said something along the lines of “we wanted to make the most shocking ending… and it’s not as shocking anymore ”
I think it played along the lines of that ending trying to be as shocking and crazy as possible at the time the game was made, but in this time it was just a cruel reality instead.
The funniest thing to me about JFK reloaded is that you can download mods that reposition you to locations based on conspiracy theories and the game becomes 100x easier to score high on
good video!! i love your attitude wendigoon! the message at the end was really nice, and very grounding. "you've got to go looking for the bad stuff, because there's so much good stuff you've got to wade through" stay awesome Wendi!!
My father went to columbine high school when the shooting occurred, and one of the teachers saved his life that day, every day i owe my life to the man who saved my father, I went to columbine for my high school career and the community was genuinely kind and everyone cared for each other, I cannot believe the disrespect of creating a video game about carrying out the events of that horrid day truly disturbs me
@@chrism.3354 and creating the game harms no-one. while being bullied is being harmed. simple disrespect is incredibly petty and tame compared to the actual events
@@chrism.3354 Thing is, they actually weren't bullied. They actually had pretty okay reputations at the school. The shooting was never carried out as some twisted form of "revenge". It was pure malice and evil.
Your little reassurance at the end, that this is the worst stuff you can find, is probably very comforting to someone who may come out of content like this in a doomspiral. I like that you added it, it’s a nice touch.
They actually do discriminate quite regularly. They start with the old sick, ugly and aggressive ones first because there is less chance of them getting adopted.
PETA believes that pet ownership is akin to slavery, and animals should be left to nature. It basically invalidates tens of thousands of years of domestication.
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that's if you give Kanye Quest 3030 your name or a picture of yourself, the game doesn't save it and it ends up getting deleted
Don’t apologize for not having a faster upload schedule! Your videos take a while because they’re all super in depth, you do copious amounts of research, and you pour your heart and soul into every video. I would absolutely much rather only watch a video from you once a month, for example, and it be from the thorough Wendigoon I’ve come to enjoy, than you post a video every day but it’s not anything like these videos.
postal 2 is actually a lot more like GTA than many may realize!! you can actually run through the entire game without committing any crimes. all violence is completely optional! that’s why the studio would market the game as “only as violent as you are”. i love this game its really fascinating the “lore” behind it.
Thank you thank you thank you I was obsessed with LSD dream emulator when I was a teenager and I forgot the name of it. I’m so glad that you brought it back up.
I appreciate that the guy that made the Columbine Shooting RPG understood a Clockwork Orange better than %99 percent of people presumably on his first watch and despite all that he was going through
Maybe it's because he was in a similar mindset, which allowed him to realize he was in danger of ending up just like them. That's why art should be confrontational it should challenge us. Then, at least one person might actually realize what you're really trying to say.
What do 99% of people think watching that movie? That you're supposed to do all those things? I don't understand. Also that movie has themes beyond a simple good v bad narrative as well.
@@DieTreppenwitztons of people used to think it glorified violence, look up early reviews of the movie, many couldn't look deep enough to see the real meaning (despite it being entirely undisguised and obvious)
@@MontySlython TIL I guess. It's pretty obvious I thought but then again it's also pretty obvious that people will find a weird interesting whenever they can
I'm actually surprised that Rule of Rose was left off of this list. While the game itself wasn't that disturbing the game created such a massive moral panic before it was even released due to a false review that in Italy the government had an entire meeting over it and tried to propose bills spurred by it. They even tried creating an entire group dedicated to reviewing and rating games despite the fact PEGI existed and had already done it.
I mean, I'd argue that there was some pretty disturbing stuff in that game too. I remember playing it for the first time and thinking it was one of the most "adult-themed" horror games I had ever played, in that it has a lot of sexual violence, child abuse, animal abuse, etc. Out of all of the popular PS2 era survival horror games I've played, I'd argue RoR was the most disturbing and uncomfortable (Haunting Ground was also up there for me too. Both of these games are some of my faves!)
Sounds like interesting but obscure bit of trivia probably known only to gamers in Italy or surrounding countries or people big into the game itself (another one of those PS2 horror titles like Haunting Ground, Kuon and Clock Tower 3 that sold poorly but became huge cult favorites that are stupidly, prohibitively expensive to buy nowadays) he probably would come across if he was making a much bigger, in-depth video like the movie one or the conspiracy theory one (which, of all the icebergs he's done and will ever do probably nothing will top the monument that is the conspiracy theory iceberg series) on this but it seems he made this as a quickie video to give people something to watch in the interim while waiting for the next bigger upload he plans to do.
I’d definitely say Rule of Rose doesn’t need any help in order to be considered disturbing. Like the commenter up there said, the game is riddled with themes of sexual violence and bullying. It truly showcases how isolating those situations can feel, how lonely and dour. It’s beautiful, yet horrifying and sad in that way
I think none of these games are actually disturbing except for Columbine RPG and maybe Sad Satan. Most of them are either very bad in terms of gameplay or just trying way too hard to be edgy.
I agree, as soon as I saw the title I got really excited for him to cover Rule of Rose and was a little disappointed. It's definitely up there in my top favorite disturbing games, not just because it's dark and has that level of "ohh this is banned so it's taboo and I wanna play it", but because it's actually a decent game. The story, while dark, is very well put together and the environments are so interesting and you'd never see that ending coming. It's actually up there in my list of favorite games and I'd even go so far as to say that I think it's easily as good as some of the first Silent Hill games that have come out.
49:39 I think that one takes the cake for being the creepiest "game" ever. Having your entire computer compromised without your knowledge while being watched all the time through your webcam is my biggest phobia
I experienced it. It wasnt nice. I am still paranoid about it. Be careful online guys. Even though it is not the way it used to be, it still is kind of a wild west. It sucks.
This is why if you EVER have to play anything sketchy, you throw it in a VM that doesn’t have shared folders and network activity on, and disable as many USB devices in it as possible.
Fun Fact about RapeLay: The developers, Illusion, stayed active making a ton of games up until 2022 even getting a few of their games on steam, translated to english and all. Remember that VR game about messing around with a japanese schoolgirl in her bedroom that every lets player covered a while back, including Markiplier and Pewdiepie, VR Kanojo? it was made by Illusion too! They closed shop recently but a very similar developer called Ill Games appeared soon after, sounds like they maybe wanted to wipe the slate clean, but who knows?
My brother in christ you have the gall to release more high quality long-form videos in two months than most youtubers in the same category would do in a year, and then go ahead and say "sorry for the lack of content lol". What a legend.
@@SkylerMillerTheBronxProjectand proceeds to be very casual about the whole youtube thing like he's not even doing the youtube shtick and just talks about shit like you would a drinking buddy. Even the ad bits feel like "yo have you heard of this service? pretty cool! anyway here's something I found yesterday in the interwebs"
@@Vekcrazah it's hard to find a channel that doesn't make you want to skip the sponsored part of the video. wendi and internet historian have it down to a T in their own ways
This is definitely going to get buried, but a duo of conspiracy investigators/comedians (who are also funded by the Australian government) actually looked into Kanye Quest and found the creator. They were essentially a former student who made it as a project, with the Ascensionism stuff added due to it being a separate project they wanted to make before deciding to just merge it with KanyeQuest. The reason why the information was so hard to find was because apparently the developers had a falling out and NDAs were signed. The musician Nexpo theorised as being the head of the Ascensionism cult was just being a musician who took advantage of the publicity and he just began shitposting.
Those two games about rape are a different level to me. I feel like them having there own tier really does do them justice, because there is a lot to be said about how sexual assault is treated even in the modern day. I don't know why those two in particular disturb me, but I think rape is probably the worst thing you could do to someone.
@oleander7635 Absolutely, these games were made by people who think of women as nothing more than objects. I feel like rape is worse than murder because at the end of the day you have to live with it and the memories. And yeah videogames usually don't influence actions, but games like these reinforce the idea that rape is something normal that should also be enjoyed, which is disgusting. The only people who would play those games are people who likely already think like that as well. Just... God it makes me uncomfortable.
The games are terrible but I doubt being into stuff like that would make you do irl, I mean look at stuff like the 50 shade books that was written by a woman.
@@yaboil7774 Well yeah it's unlikely that they would actually make someone do something, I was probably overthinking things. But you do have to admit that the games are tailored to that specific audience.
I mean I'd rather be raped than be skinned alive whilst im being showered in salt and lemon juice. In my opinion raping someone isn't the worst thing you thing you can do to them.
Kinda surprised Thrill Kill wasn’t on this list, tbh. We had an underground copy that I used to watch my siblings play at 3-4 years old that scarred deep into my childhood nightmares for years to come, haha. Wasn’t too much lore to it or anything, but it got banned before release for a reason. 😅 Loved the video, though!
One that scared the sh.t out of me was the and I'm spelling it wrong on purpose bc it's 8 pm here and I don't need any extra night terrors tiki tiki game watching I think PewDiePie or Markiplier Playing it it scared the fk out of me replace all the I with e
@@al-imranadore1182 Blood Meridian is not the most disturbing book. It’s existential and scary, but it doesn’t hold a candle to some work out there. Not by far. But I’m not going to sully what little innocence the internet has left.
IIRC Peta also made a pokemon rip off that REALLY upped the whole 'dogfighting' aspect where you played as the pokemon and instead fought the trainers, who were changed to look batshit insane. Amusingly enough the generation they used was pokemon black & white.
8:30 One of my best friends is a veterinarian; she dedicated her life to becoming one when she was in _preschool,_ and never faltered. She takes a back seat to no one in her dedication, her love of animals and her expertise about them. I find it quite telling that she absolutely _despises_ PETA, holding them responsible for more animal suffering than they've ever managed to prevent.
Literally stole a homeless man’s dog from him and put them down just bc he was a homeless man and they said he couldn’t take care of him. (I’m not sure but I think he was taking decent care of the dog despite his situation) and took a young girls dog just because they thought it was a stray. Just knowing that i fucking hate them. Not to mention their vegan teacher/(angry psychotic vegan youtuber I forgot his name) type of promotion style for the wine cause is awful and traumatizing and feels like there is a gun to your head,. Which will NOT help people to care about animal cruelty.
@@cj-pe5mj I think I was being dramatic when I said traumatizing. I can get like that when I feel strongly about stuff (I currently think my adhd has to do with it). But what they have ended up doing in their efforts to “save” animals IS in my opinion awful. The things I’ve heard and read and seen through online media is awful. Not just in what’s being done I mean, but I also mean in how they are going about what they say their cause is the wrong way.
i cannot describe how much i love this lovely youth pastor who is simultaneously responsible for introducing me to some of the most horrific, soul crushing horror created by humanity... and is also the sole provider of fatherly warmth and safety on this abysmal machine that pedals nothing but the creeping feeling of despair we call the internet... love you dad
About the first game you talked about-- the one with the vampire that you can only play at night-- there were two other games that used the same system, but but they were free online games as opposed to ones you had to buy. They were produced by the company that makes Doritos of all things, as advertisement for a few flavors they were bringing "back from the dead". The gimmick was that the site was only open from six at night to six in the morning, hence the titles of these games: Hotel 626 and Asylum 626. You'd think they'd be super ad-heavy or full of product placement, but no, they were legitimately fun little web-horror experiences with next to nothing to do with the product they were intended to promote. Unfortunately, they're considered lost media because the sites were taken down in 2011, I think? Which is just a shame because they were really neat.
I adored cooking games as a kid, and I will never forget how traumatized I was when I found a Cooking Mama game and it was a Peta collaboration. Needless to say I moved on from cooking games
Yes I remember playing this one! Where you had to brutally kill and cook a turkey and then cook a tofu vegan dish after? I played that when I was a kid and was so weirded out by the concept of it
OH MY GOD I PLAYED THE SAME GAME!!!!!!! i remember playing an actual cooking mama game and being like ???? wheres the blood because i didnt know antyhing about video games at the time so i just assumed that was what cooking mama was
Just have to say: your upload schedule is ridiculously impressive, please don't feel like you should apologise if it slows down a for a short while, and especially not if that's due to working on other projects. You're always keeping such high-quality content coming, at this point I think it's safe to say that the majority of us are here for the long haul. Can't wait to see what you've been working on; if you're excited about it, I've no doubt it'll be worth it!
The funny thing about Postal 2 is the quote "It's graphic and over the top because that's what it aims to be" is exactly what they want you to say. You can choose to just do things normally. Heck if you never pee on anyone you miss out on an entire mission because you're char never finds out he has an STI. The tagline is "The game is only as violent as YOU are". (though there's still a lot of bad stuff happening even if you do it pacifist so.... grain of salt)
About the PETA flash games, some of the games actually link to videos of animal abuse. The Mario parodies had links to videos taken secretly in factory farms and another game called "Sammy the Seal" has a mutilated seal as the game over screen. That's probably why it's on this iceberg.
You're correct about everything you said, but it's on the iceberg solely for the reasons Wendigoon gave. He made it himself. Although the additional info you gave would've probably put it on a lower level of the iceberg, if he knew.
Your “Blood Meridian” video has consumed my life ever since I watched it. Your ability to tell a story is nothing short of master craft. Thank you sir, for all of your efforts.
16:59 I'm the author of the 雨月奇譚 translation guide on GameFAQs. I've never heard this rumour before and I can't find anything about it on the Japanese internet which leads me to believe it's a western creepypasta. But I'd love to be proved wrong! It's great to see this game get more coverage either way! It is a remake of a PC 98 game. The game is based on a novel from the Edo period with the same title. 雨月 usually refers to the harvest moon which is obscured by rain. Japanese has a lot of different words to describe different moons, which often appear in Haiku. In this game, the word refers to a haunted house attraction that the main character mysteriously finds themselves in front of.
@@benjaminbaki1758 You're welcome! The aim is to share information about these obscure games and hopefully build enough interest to get some translations done someday!
It’s always comforting getting home from a long day feeling kinda crappy and seeing that one of the most well researched and most entertaining RUclipsrs has posted a new video. This man’s videos are an utter godsend and I’m so glad that we get to enjoy them.
The Rachet and Clank games had a fun time sensitive Easter egg in them. It was a concept art museum that you could only access at 4am. Because in a game by Insomniac Studios you need to be an insomniac to see their secrets.
Even though I haven't watched all of your videos, you're hands down my favorite youtuber. Your content is so thorough and interesting... it takes me a bit to watch your videos so I can let my thoughts marinate, but that's what is cool about these videos.
32:03 *Eric and Dylan were not bullied - they **_were_** bullies.* This is a fact that has been ignored by media, and repeated ever since. It has been trotted out as "proof" that "something needs to be done" without any effectual solutions implemented. This is precisely because the people who demand "something to be done" have no idea what it is that they are talking about. Being bullied does not make someone more likely to become a mass shooter, however, being a *sadist,* the way that Eric and Dylan were, plays a significant role. People who are bullied are more likely to either self harm, or attempt suicide. People who have been bullied are not more likely to bully others, precisely because they know what it feels like to be on the receiving end.
@@transparentblue (Note: sorry for the length. I wanted to try and be super clear in my response. I understand if you don't want to read it all, just skip to the example section toward the bottom.) I'd encourage you to re-read the second paragraph I had written. I purposefully tried to phrase it in a careful way that would not speak in absolutes. I wrote it that way because people don't act like robots, and do react to similar stimuli in different ways. Yes, some of those reactions may be to bully other people. This outcome, in my own research, is small enough to be insignificant. More to the point, the chance of a bullied student bullying another student and _then_ committing a mass shooting in retaliation to having been bullied is so rare that I cannot name a single case of where this has ever been the primary contributing factor. I do realize the media has asserted this... _repeatedly_ ...and that it has been, in turn, regurgitated ad infinitum by similar outlets, but from what I have read, those primary news sources have been questionable under optimal circumstances. Bullying, as I am defining it is student-to-student, or faculty-to-student. This form of bullying does not cover things like: environmental home abuse, or abuse stemming from other variables like, mental illness outside of school (i.e. continued harassment at a grocery stores, movies, at work, etc.), which are more likely to contribute to a mass casualty event. Both of those types of situations are more likely to contribute to mass casualty event because they _foster tendencies_ towards sadism, not victimhood. Talking about edge case situations are largely uninteresting; pointing out the exception to the rule is not equivalent as a proper retort of a claim regarding probability. My assertion was in regards to _probable_ outcome, the _most likely_ response, *not* any kind of "assured" or "fated" outcome. Now, to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one or two mass casualty shooters had been bullied at some point or another, but, I would absolutely argue that their having been bullied is a non-contributing factor, in comparison to other variables. *Example:* * Some people who are bullied go on to bully other people to make themselves appear stronger, in hopes of getting their own bully to stop. I.e. Troll shielding. * Some people who are bullied are completely indifferent to the situation and ignore it entirely. * Some people who are bullied make a point of working out or learning a martial art to appear stronger. * Some people who are bullied tell a responsible adult who helps address the situation in an effective and careful manner. * Some people who are bullied are likely to self harm, or attempt suicide. One of those statements is far, _far_ more thoroughly documented than the others. Do those _other_ situations occur too? Absolutely! I just can't think of a case where any of those other events turned the person who was bullied, into becoming a mass shooter. Generally speaking, the hallmarks of a potential mass shooter are: * Severe mental and physical trauma at an early age * Undiagnosed (or untreated) severe mental illness (This covers a wide range of things, like hyper fixation, obsessive behavior, manic behavior, compulsive fits, and sudden inexplicable violence. Again, predilections to violence like: sadism, BPD, intermittent explosive disorder, or similar also are common) * Alienation or involuntary isolation * Unexpected life changing event (death of a parent, moving across country, etc.) * Removal of coping outlet (This usually blends into the two above, generally there is a family member that had been reliable which is gone, or some specific activity/outlet which is no longer possible) * Outward threats issued by the shooter (verbal, written, etc.) * Access to weapons and ammo
@@SawtaYou say you don’t speak in absolutes and yet you are laying potential hallmarks of school shootings without stating which ones apply to Columbine’s situation. Please clarify your statement for my sake because I am not bothered to do the research on my own.
Let's say, hypothetically, I am a barbie girl. Okay let's even say I'm in a barbie world. Right so, in this scenario, I would obviously know from personal experience that life in plastic is fantastic. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume you could brush my hair and undress me literally everywhere? Imagination; you can derive from the fundamentals of basic logic that life is your creation.
I had Erevos! The sunset mechanic was actually really cool and gave the game some real personality, also made the game creepier since I was just in my dark room jumping at every sound
don't ever worry about 'slacking' my guy, some of my favourite youtubers only post MAYBE once a year if i'm lucky so the amount we get from you is like winning the lottery! love ya man
The thing about the Columbine shooting is that Danny and Eric weren't bullied. There was no trenchcoat mafia. It wasn’t an attack on evangelicals. This was a premeditated attempt to be as devestating as possible by two boys who hated the world. There are hours of home videos made by the two that basically spell out the whole thing, but we're stuck with the "truth" that was being made up in real time as it was happening.
Dylan and Eric were definitely bullied. Sue Klebold (Dylan’s mother) mentions in her book a time when Dylan came home covered in ketchup from being bullied. They bullied others, and were bullied themselves. The narrative that they were never bullied is just pushed to make it easier to categorize them as evil without having to face the realities of their lives. The Trenchcoat Mafia was real, but Dylan and Eric were not a part of it, and it was really just a name for a group of kids who liked to hang out and dress weird.
The fact you get to entertain millions by talking about stuff you find interesting… so fucking cool man. Congrats on your hard work you deserve it all.
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"dont send pictures to a cult. if theyre a good cult, theyll already have pictures of you." this is strangely great advice
Humble brag?🤨
Actual scientology movements.
It's true tho! As someone who has studied cults extensively, some of the best cults out there have the people that they want already picked out. Sure it could just be that they have a select type of person that they want in their cult and you just happen to fit that model, but if they are truly a good and legitimate cult they will know how to find these types of people that they want. Typically they prey on like younger people, mostly girls, who have had troubled lives or feel like that they've never belonged so cults know where to find these people at. Many people don't know that but the chances that you've already talked to someone in an actual cult is pretty common, thank you internet. Chances are though the person you were talking to thought you weren't a good fit for their cult so they just let you go. Insane how our world is right?
Worst cult is Christianity lol
I just came here to comment on that. It it killed me 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm waiting for the day Wendigoon releases his very detailed and 12 hour long "The Iceberg Iceberg" video
Now I'm going to wait for this too
I didn't realize this was something I needed, yet I now eagerly await its arrival
I've been searching for a long time for that iceberg, i hope Wendi makes my dream come true
well his conspiracy theory iceberg compilation video is 9 hours long
would it be like a normal iceberg but the most viewed vids are at the top, and least at the bottom?
One of the craziest things in this iceberg is that someone would willingly open a private file from anyone on 4chan on their personal computer.
Speaking as a former channer, despite what the internet thinks 4chan is REALLY not that smart.
90% of it is just edgy shitposter teens and NEETs, but because of the like 10% that do stuff like dox people, the Cicada puzzles, find lost media, and triangulate the location of flags based on bushes (real thing /pol/acks did in 2017) people think they're a bunch of IT geniuses and hackers.
Virtual Machine Exists 😂 is everyone stupid ??
@@whoseguys2 second pcs with clear windows
@@whoseguys2u dont gotta be a pretentious prick ab it
@@whoseguys2there are viruses that intentionally dont run on virtual machines
Another PETA flash game that I remember fondly is the Cooking Mama parody. You slaughter and desecrate some turkey for Thanksgiving and the end-product is purposefully shown to be disgusting. But all of a sudden the game changes gears and you made some tofu for Thanksgiving instead.
I don't know what they were thinking either.
YES I remember this , it's sad that's the best "peta" game to come out 😭
YES!! And it segwayed into a documentary about how the people at Butterball Turkey would SA the turkeys. I was 9 when I played. My mom was horrified when we went to the grocery store and I told her not to buy that brand because they "threw them by their privates"
God I hate PETA. They make me look bad by association.
They also made Pokemon and Super Meat Boy games IIRC
Oh yeah I remember playing that one. It turned me vegetarian for a month
The “You gotta go looking for the bad stuff, because there’s so much good stuff you have to wade through” is a beautiful way to end the iceberg.
He often ends distressing topic videos this way, and I think it's really important and comforting. After the dread I felt in the serial killer icebergs and such, hearing his reassurance that the world isn't like that in the grand scheme really saved my day.
@@chuckmcluckin6082 Yea I’ve watched all the others too. I guess since I’m a gamer and I haven’t heard of most of these it just hit a little harder. This man has some of the most beautiful content on the platform. I can’t wait to see the mysterious projects he speaks of.
@@justkris5814really? A lot of these games are just try hard attention seeking
I literally read this comment as Wendigoon said those words! It was a magical experience, lol.
@@chuckmcluckin6082cynicism and nihilism is cringe and positivity and being hope-pilled is based.
From reviewing existing icebergs to creating his own
Papa Wendigoon truly has come a long way
My farts are better than Wendigoon’s farts.
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Yeah I bet Wendigoon’s farts have southern accents and apologize like he does
@@connor48880when I say I cackled i truly mean it 😂😂😂
he made the movie iceberg too
How about “the disturbing human iceberg”? Not just an iceberg of murderers, but an iceberg of all the strangest and scariest individual humans throughout history? With an emphasis on the weirdest things, like not just killers, but people who performed strange experiments on themselves, or people with strange fixations that they built their entire lives around
I really like this idea but i wonder how much it would end up overlapping with the serial killer iceberg
so what you're saying is...Chris Chan would be on that list.
@@Thunderthewolf4361yes
Tarre, the man who probably ate a baby and the guy who brought Lobotomy to the mainstream
i was gonna say you gotta include the guy who drilled into his own skull to make his brain work better, but it turns out that was multiple guys. trepanning and especially self-trepanation is wild.
This whole video is me opening the fridge, finding a brown paper bag that says "Dead dove, don't touch", opening it and saying, "I don't know what I expected."
Meanwhile me, the frequent viewer of dead doves in paper bags, (wait that sounds weird oops)
Arrested development reference
I make a Doom3/Horror mod for FO4. I will put that in lol
If I remember correctly, one of the games made by PETA was about a seal trying to escape seal hunters. You had to navigate through a sort of maze and if you hit the wall and got a game over, they showed a picture of a seal that had been skinned. Great childhood memories.
plot twist it was a navy seal
There was also a Mario-themed game called Super Tanooki Skin 2D, where you play as a skinned tanooki animal chasing a bloodied Mario wearing your skin like the actual tanooki suit in the official Mario games
I remember seeing the baby mlp pony abusing game and that cooking mama peta game on yt. honestly looking back I’d rather not even be able to watch tv when I was little.
@@amazingamer360they got sued for that one
@@LillianGraceFullofficiali remember playing the cooking mama peta game 🥲
The thing about Postal 2 (main game, sans the DLCs) is that "going postal" is _completely_ optional. The missions are just chores, like buying milk and getting your paycheck. You could literally beat the game without k!lling or even harming a single soul, even when those around you have gone postal themselves.
Postal 1, tho, is a much different story.
Giving Postal 1 the benefit of the doubt, you only have to kill threats. Plus the cops being as careless and willing to bring out explosives combined with the player exercising a "no killing bystanders" style of play could lend credence to maybe there being an actual plague going on in it lmao.
Postal 1 overall is a strange game, but the fact there's an achievement in the Redux version for not killing any civilians, I think it's safe to say that the prior paragraph might actually be the canon explanation. You don't bring a rocket launcher to evict someone after all.
That's what I found funny about it. I bought it cause I heard about the crazy things you could do in it. But it's literally so benign unless you make it crazy.
Postal 1 context is kinda disturbing, load screens basically tell us that our character is having a schizophrenic breakdown
Not entirely true. You can do it non-lethally if you're very, very good, but in the redneck and butcher missions, you are fully expected to kill everyone.
Apocalypse weekend ends with PD setting off a nuke.
And there are multiple missions within the sequal/DLC Paradise Lost that need you to kill people. Like I'm pretty sure you cannot progress unless you kill Zach Ward.
@@hanatarash666 Yep, especially in the original. In Redux, it lends credence to there actually being kind of a hate plague in all fairness.
And based on a number of things in the case of Redux, Postal Dude 100% is afflicted as well.
Important note, 177 is satire on an old Japanese law regarding SA. This old law deems that if a woman was sufficiently 'pleasured' in the act, then it wasn't actually non-consensual and it isn't deemed illegal. That's why the game has that good and bad ending, it's satirizing Japan's deeply problematic r*pe culture.
@@manashield64 What I think is funny is that a theory I've never heard before: that a woman's body can prevent pregnancy in cases of rape, is somehow labeled right-wing. I've heard a lot of political talk these past few years and hear a new one every day, somehow attributed to one side or the other, increasingly terrible from the last theory.
Okay that’s what I assumed it was.
@@emalinedickinson7492it’s labeled right wing because the right wing hates womens rights and they actually said that shit… lol
Just a few days ago Japan updated its r*pe laws to be a bit more modern.
And yet young boys are still raped by grown women today and most reactions to it is "what a lucky kid" or "I wish that would have happened to me when I was his age". Even the media refers to it as "an affair" instead of what it actually is. Statutory rape. Then you have people on all sides of the political spectrum who genuinely believe that grown men cannot be raped by women even if they were drugged or beaten. At least women and young girls being raped is treated with the seriousness and stigma it deserves.
that last one actually terrifies me, the fact that he not only fantasized about doing something so horrific, but that he used doom as an outlet to practice going about it over and over again. absolutely terrifying
germany had a similar incident and the kid recreated his school in cs1.6... leading to a HUUUGE discussion about counterstrike being banned all over central europe etc. etc.
its always the same, blame the medium not the individual because its easier to shift the blame to a tool, than the user of the tool.... looking at you america... and guns.
@@sonofsparda657I mean guns are pretty necessary for guncrime to occur. You can’t ban people existing, but you can ban guns
@@DeathnoteBB the only reason gun CRIME exists, is gun LAWS. apart from that, the people that wanna do it, do it. no matter if you ban em or not. you gotta remember laws only stop people frok doing things if they adhere to laws in the first place.
@@sonofsparda657 Wow you just don’t know squat, huh?
@@DeathnoteBB banning guns doesnt eliminate the guns, theyll just get em illegally. drugs are banned and people still do drugs. its actually a very simple concept i dont know where you are hung up on? all youll do is create a new illegal market, or make the existing one bigger.
Does anyone else remember a game called “can your pet” where you raise a pet chick and take care of it until you abruptly kill it and “can” the pet into canned food?
Pretty sure thats a game made by PETA, sounds like it atleast
Yes I do omg
I remember thinking it was it so stupid and funny. Now that you mention it, that kinda does sound like some shit PETA would do but it didn’t have that vibe at all like the PETA games that Wendy showed for, it seemed very satirical and designed to screw with the player.
It wasn't a PETA game if I remember correctly. I think I watched markiplier play it.
omg i remember that. my cousins had me play it when i was like 7 or 8
edit: I JUST WENT TO GOOF AROUND ON IT AGAIN AND HOLY SHIT- IT'S SO MUCH WORSE THAN I REMEMBERED??? i'm blaming this game for all my issues now wtfffff ohmy god.
Oh yeah! I remember watching a youtuber play that like a decade ago lol! Forgot about that till now.
Wendigoon, you recently did a five-hour deep dive into a Cormac McCarthy novel. Please don’t apologize for “lack of uploads”. It’s always a treat when you upload.
Winney the goon does make nice content certainly for sure
real, we are here for the man not the machine
fr
RIP to the legend, by the way
6:08 "Erevos"
8:17 "Peta Flash Games"
10:18 "LSD: Dream Emulator"
12:03 "Night Trap"
13:24 "Postal"
14:24 "Manhunt"
16:14 "Ugetsu Kitan"
17:10 "Hatred"
18:31 "Roly Poly's No Nanakorobi Yaoki"
20:18 "Left Behind: Eternal Forces"
23:05 "Hong Kong '97"
24:27 "Kanye Quest 3030"
26:16 "Station.exe"
28:34 "Quest For Sadam"
29:28 "Quest For Bush"
30:18 "Super Columbine Massacre RPG"
33:58 "V-Tech Rampage"
35:08 "KZ Manager"
35:55 "Kanoguti"
37:09 "The Story Of Kamikuishiki Village"
39:00 "JFK Reloaded"
43:12 "177"
44:28 "Ra-peplay"
46:20 "Worlds . com"
49:00 "Lostboy . exe"
50:36 "Berzerk"
52:57 "Sad Satan"
55:49 "Schnellonline"
56:53 "Eric Harris Doom Wads"
engaging with this comment so it gets moved higher lol
I’m surprised fear and hunger isn’t on the list .
Nice.
The hero we need but don't deserve.
13:24 BUTTSAUCE
32:11 it's important to recognize that Eric and Dylan weren't really bullied. They regularly bullied gay kids themselves and Eric was reported as being a psychopath narcissist who didn't care if he died
OMG thank you!! Not enough people know this!
Lmao. One of them was the leader. The other a sheep.
@@tomcruiiseship9461both of them were horrible, don’t defend one
The Last Podcast guys did a great series on columbine, talking about how they weren't bullied and alot of other myths that came out of columbine.
@@LumpyBread0AskAMortician also did a good video on it
The fear that we would absolutely watch a 5 hour wendigoon video is not unfounded
Been there done that with blood meridian right?
I want more 5hr videos
Should I stop trying to be funny? Should I give away my money? NO.
I watched the full 9 hour conspiracy theory iceberg
My farts are better than Wendigoon’s farts.
Wendigoon has such a unique way of making disturbing content so easily digestible while not underselling just how depraved some of this can be
My farts are better than Wendigoon’s farts.
I think it's his genuine interest and respect while still being a surprisingly optimistic/spiritual guy. It's a very comforting mix of traits
@@melonthemelonsI realized this after watching the angel types, bible theory iceberg, and the Brown Mountain lights video. Hearing the folk stories and legends of the Brown Mountain lights was so memorable and I could tell that he had a deep respect for the myths and tales of old. It is really nice to see a RUclipsr into finding out the truth of a topic while also respecting the traditional values around it.
I remember playing JFK Reloaded in middle school, and getting so bored trying to recreate the money shot that I started going as off script as possible to make it more amusing. It wasn’t till my hundredth or so playthrough that I started to wonder, wait, is this game trying to tell me LHO couldn’t have done this? And then I fell down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole that, twenty years later, led me to this channel. So now we’ve come full circle.
The fact that they made a game to do one thing and you physically cannot do it in game is absolutely astounding.
It's gotta be a metacommentary.
I’m actually a bit surprised that “The Slaying Of Sandy Hook Elementary” wasn’t on this list. I get the Columbine RPG one but the Sandy Hook one was far more shocking to me because the whole game is literally just the player playing as the shooter and playing through the events of the shooting, from where the shooter kills his mother through to when he ends his own life after the massacre.
The guy who made it even fought one of the victim’s parents online over it, said the game was meant to “be about the importance of gun control” and even tweeted out “The liberals don’t like me because I’ve disrespected the dead. The conservatives don’t like me because of the gun control message.”
Edit: Fun Fact! Just found out the guy who made the V-Tech Rampage was the same guy who made The Slaying Of Sandy Hook Elementary. So I don’t think I could ever trust that he was being serious about the gun control message.
*nobody* likes him because hes a scumbag. simple as
I hate people like this tbh. Absolutely people will be mad when you disrespect murdered children you freak. Very different from getting mad over gun control holy shit
Yeah I wouldn’t consider anyone simulating recent massacres as games to be that serious about the issues
After the V-Tech game, the dude actually became super liberal and it was made way more artistically and with a song about gun control. He genuinely changed I think, however Im a poor judge of character
Just so you guys know, a group made a RUclips series where they found the creator of Kanye Quest 3030 (called Finding Yeezus) and they found out it was literally a school project, creator then went back and added the extra layers for fun. Also they’re Australian and the guys got the assistance of comedy group Aunty Donna as well it’s a silly series
Yeah, Chill Fuel recently did a video covering it that gave the story pretty succinctly.
Auntie Donna?! They pop up in the most random things lol
My farts are better than Wendigoon’s farts.
If I were to suggest the next "disturbing thing iceberg" I'd say it should be disturbing books
I absolutely loved all your book breakdown videos and there are so many disturbing and outright vile books out there that could easily fill an iceberg chart to the brim with content
i agree. theres alot he could do with that topic for sure
Nyx Fears made a good video about that (edit: it's a top 10 most disturbing books) if you're interested
I hate to brown nose but I greatly support this.
This absolutely sounds like a fantastic idea and it sounds like it's right up Wendigoon's alley. Hopefully he sees this.
@@Sevenpuddingsx love Nyx Fears
Love this idea
Wendigoon is the only content creator that will post 8 hours of content in a month then apologize for the lack of content. Seeing a new video always makes my day. Thank you.
tbf, 8 hours of content in a month is somewhat low compared to many other youtube content creators, though those creators are often in different genres that can support more content like gaming channels
@@timcal2136name 2 examples then
@@timcal2136 idk about that (genuinely) but sure, though wendigoons content has pretty amazing quality AND he post 8 + hours of content in a month which is pretty great
Yeah it's like he compares himself to youtubers whose vids are ten minutes long. The difference is they are providing an entertainment for a dinner or a bathroom break, and when Wendigoon posts it means you already have plans for today
Fun fact about postal, you can kill people, urinate on them, shove a cat on the end of a gun, all of the above, however, is purely at the player's discretion; it was the developers' intent to have the player choose exactly how violent the Dude acts, as he/she does not NEED to kill anyone to complete the game's objectives.
That’s postal 2
That's true for Postal 2. In Postal 1 you won't progress unless you kill everyone on screen.
“its only as twisted as you are "
Postal 2 is genuinely hilarious, too. Made me L oh L multiple times.
@@Kyryyn_Lyyh "how would you feel if someone called you a lunatic" after youve just chopped someone to pieces with a machete never fails to make me laugh
Going on a rant about JFK in an iceberg about video games is the most wendigoon thing ever
literally lmao, he had some good points though lets not disregard that lmao
i too start talking about jfk randomly it just fills in the blanks tbh
@@steviewilliams7248fr
I would love an iceberg of disturbing books. There are so many out there that I’m surprised some of them are even able to be published.
Yes! That would be a great one, and Unca Goon has shown that he’s a voracious reader.
an entry at the surface level must be lolita. That book is so fucked
the bible?
@MobsterLobsterYT hope you don't get killed for that idea
Uuuhhh…
1. IT may have been inspired by John Wayne Gacey
Idk someone can come up with something
Another note about Postal: In the original release of Postal 1, it ends with the protagonist trying to shoot up a playground. It was removed from the re-release because the developer said it was originally put there because it was a completely unthinkable thing to do, and it's not anymore because we see things like it in the news all the time.
If I remember correctly, he tried to shoot the playground but he can't hurt any of the kids and he turns the gun on himself
@@SpoopyTurtle44 He doesn't turn the gun on himself, he simply passes out and is put in a mental asylum with his hands strapped together. (You can still shoot in the level, but canonically i'd say he couldn't pull the trigger)
@@theultimatetrashman887 ah that's right id forgotten
That's just... eerie, and sad.
@@theultimatetrashman887 You can't shoot in the level, as the level is actually a cutscene where the postal dude is running around trying to shoot them, although he does shoot them his bullets have no effect and he collapses on the ground.
I would love to hear wendigoon’s take on fear and hunger. Such a unique blend of terrifying horror concepts and fascinating lore. I just discovered it pretty recently and I love it (even though it would most likely need to be heavily censored for yt).
Same! To me it feels like the disturbing aura of it has more substance than some of these shock games. Even though a decently large chunk of Fear and Hunger is shock, the art style and the monster designs are pretty damn good.
I'd also love if he covered Dark wood, that game is amazing too.
I'm always watching fear and hunger's shorts and I think the music of the game is top notch. It creates anxiety and it's perfect.
Coffin of Andy and Leyley would be pretty interesting to Ngl
Agreed just recently tried playing it
also im 99% sure that was the game he was referencing at the beginning
God I love it when wendigoon does iceberg videos
God I hate it when anyone does icebergs
@@Soundsyouhearswithyourears im so cool and different
God I hate it when anyone criticises Wendigoon
God I love it when my laundry smells fresh...
I love it when he does anything in general
"it doesn't matter where you go on the internet or how far down the rabbit hole you've gone, it always gets worse." truer words have never been spoken
He signs off a lot of his videos about disturbing/distressing subjects with disclaimers along those lines, and I think that's not only important, but comforting. Sometimes when you're exploring the depths like this, it CAN be hard to remember the good in the world.
Oops, admittedly I didn't read the whole quote you posted, and thought you were talking about his outro. But yeah, that's also true haha
There are only two kind of persons who believe that to be true. Those very unexperirnced who just found their first chain of disturbing events, and those so experienced they know how true it is and keep diving deeper.
I cannot describe how happy I am to see Wendigoon doing icebergs again! Its like a full-circle moment and fills me with so much nostalgia for some reason. Damn.
Facts his videos make me so happy when I see a new one pop up
headass same bromther
It's like dad came home from the war and has stories.
My farts are better than Wendigoon’s farts.
"I didnt want to be pigeonholed into being just an iceberg youtuber, but I think I'm pretty safe from that."
Whatever you say, Iceberg Boy
Kanye Quest 3030 actually ended up getting a solid conclusion by Grouse House's series "Finding Yeezus". They definitively found the original creator and were able to ask them about it. It ended up going in some pretty wacky directions. They ended up getting even further than Nexpo did.
And mamamax covered it too, only he did send his info but found nothing and then dug deeper than that. I'd recommend watching it, that's how I found out about it well before this video came out.
@@anglepsycho Except Mama Max unlisted that video alongside most of his videos like a coward.
I just saw that
@@Lance_LionroarWhy'd he unlist his vids???
@@SessmaruKusanagiGaminghe did it
Because he changed his entire direction and didn’t want to be known for his old content which I personally disagree
YES DO A DISTURBING MUSIC ICEBURG! It’s a wild rabbit hole down there that’s really cool and it would be doubly cool if you covered it
If he does he *has* to talk about Ptolomea by Ethel Cain or at least one other song from Preacher's daughter
I just want an excuse for Dad to review "Look at your game girl"
@@tojisenpai87 i love that album but what makes it specifically disturbing? i know it has heavy subject matter but idk much else
@@fern_g0rlwell I find the whole album particularly disturbing when you listen knowing the whole story behind it. Listening to the first few songs knowing how terribly the character ends (and even starts to be honest!)(yknow kidnapped, drugged out of her mind to do sex work then murdered and eaten by her lover) is particularly disturbing. Like how eery is thoroughfare when you put it in context. And don't even get me started on Ptolomea where we have a dying Ethel pleading for her life with someone who sounded like perfection itself two songs ago. And so much more but eh, at the end of the day not everyone finds the same things disturbing and I'm not good enough at explaining things to correctly explain to you my reasoning(sorry for talking too much, I really like this album too ! And sorry for potential spelling mistakes)
Korn-daddy
An icberg on distubing books would be neat. Hell, you could make two videos in that same topic. One containing banned books, and another with unrestricted books.
Yes this would be great!
Not only would it be nice to see him cover the disturbing book iceberg (there is one that exists), but in my personal opinion, the biggest video on it is not that good.
It's just covering each entry, and giving a one or two sentence summary on rapid fire
omg yes my ADHD inhibits me from reading books and i feel like i am missing out on an entire universe of stories!! but i still love to hear about them
Brillant idea !
chuck pasternak's book would be included- that book messed me up
Personally, the most disturbing game I've ever played was The Closing Shift by Chinchilla's Art. The idea of being stalked was the most terrifying thing to me.
All of their games are very disturbing
Chillas Art never misses. I sincerely adore that developer.
Yeah!
Escaping from something Is the best way to get adrenaline
I love how Wendigoon can talk about the most absolutely grotesque, disgusting, and terrifying things in the world, but rock a bright Hawaiian shirt and crack a joke here and there.
My favorite outtake of his was in one of Nick Crowley’s icebergs (which is how I found Wendi), he tried to pronounce a name and the music just cuts off and he’s like “Screw it, I can’t pronounce this. Move on to the story and go back to the creepy persona.”
Yep morning Wendi love ❤️ you’re channel new to your channel since last year
fr
as someone who knows a bit about music, the disturbing music iceberg sounds like a very good idea, because there’s a bunch of music out there that genuinely has led to me not being able to sleep at night.
there’s already a few artists on my mind that could fit on a video like that, mainly lingua ignota, whitehouse diamanda galas, uboa, gnaw their tongues, and dragged into sunlight are true artists that first come to mind when i think of disturbing musical artists
edit: there’s a few i forgot that could also be good for the iceberg, have a nice life, xiu xiu, stalaghh, and giles corey. there’s also black midi, however they’re disturbing in like, a very dark comedy way lol
The channel has already experienced it too! Like with the At the End of Time video
The band mayhem too
weezer is another one
Also Penderecki, Crumb
Don't see Galas mentioned too often, but yeah Plague Mass is one seriously unsettling album, especially if you know the story behind it.
Interesting point about the first Postal: before each mission you’re shown a page from the “protagonists” diary and each entry gets progressively more disturbing and demented, showing the characters gradual decent into complete insanity
I wish he would have talked specifically about postal 1 tbh
The original ending of 1 is so fucking good just because it was intended to be, at the time, an impossible edge-lord fake out that couldn’t happen in reality.
Yet it gad to be changed, because school shootings happened a lot more often in the late 90’s - early 00’s.
With that in mind the ending is even more off-putting and impactful imo
@@MrMetalforever5the creator said he wasn't comfortable killing kids
@@BigBossultrastealththe creator explixitely said that the kindergarten level was supposed to be the most demented and out of this world act postal guy could make... yet, here we are
@@BigBossultrastealth
You don’t kill kids in the ending, it’s literally impossible.
It was meant to be a “oh my god are they really gonna do that?” kind of ending where it’s actually impossible to do what’s implied, a school massacre.
It’s the point where the original Postal Dude breaks and whatever fantasy or mental breakdown he’s having puts him down.
The creator changed the ending because at the time a school shooting was an impossible nightmare situation that could only be dreamt of by edge lords.
Then shortly after it was proven that it wasn’t a nightmare but just really depressing reality, so they changed the ending to something that fits more in line with the implied backstory of the original Postal Dude.
Dude I love that your videos, though disturbing are like normal, you see a lot of sensationalism around horror videos and people using "dark scary voices" and "scary music" and it's all very cheap but with you it's like having a conversation with a cool dude, and as someone who is quite sensitive to horror and disturbing content it makes it very comforting, keep it up man 👍
I kind of love that Rockstar saw the backlash of Manhunt and basically said “Oh, you think THAT’S bad? *Watch this.* “
That’s what I love about Rockstar. Say what you will about the constant milking of GTAV but my god they take chances and they deliver most of the time
@@jaybarbieri8619Definitely. Although they are kind of a greedy company, people don't give them enough credit for when they DO make a good game. I'm definitely not saying that Rockstar's good games are underrated, but I don't think it's fair to only bash on games like GTA V and not actually give them credit for games like RDR 2.
@@jaybarbieri8619 yeah, people talk about how much rockstar milks GTA V that they overlook how GTA V actually has a GREAT campaign.
@@HaloTropicalshould also take a look at the current state of Rockstar as a company compared to 10 years ago
@@c.mcdermolmfao who cares
I am surprised you didn't talk about the worst PETA game. It was a mario bros clone and followed 2 chickens (red and green for mario and luigi), that would just go around finishing the level. The twist was that half way through the game you'd unlock messages from "toad", these messages were legit just videos of industrial chicken butchery uncensored. So as a child I was pretty traumatised watching chicken twitch as they got chopped up in these factories.
I like eating meat, I dont really hold any strong opinions about people that do OR dont eat meat, but factory farms are an atrocious, disgusting thing that I wish would go away.
Don’t forget the cooking mama one!!
Super chick sisters!
@@Ilovefrenchfrieswoohoo I played that as a child and thought that was the original Cooking Mama and that the friendly non-violent Cooking Mamas were sequels. Needless to say when I found out Cooking Mama was NOT a game about brutally killing animals I was shocked.
@@blueizumiomg I had the same experience but I had the cooking mama ds game and was even more traumatized because I thought it was real
In defence of Postal 2 - you can complete the game without killing anyone or doing any of the “horrible things” game is desined to be as violent as player wants it to be, but you’re always offered a non-violent approach
Also re: Manhunt - I thought in the end it turned out that the victim had owned the game not the killer
yea that was the case, the victim was the one that owned the game, not the killer. that was found a little after but was swept under the rug to push the anti video games message i suppose.
To quote another video:
"In Postal 2 you can be as violent as you want to be" -- or smth
Yeah, him saying that the violence is the point is sorta missing the joke, postal is actually less violent than GTA as you can play through Postal 2 without hurting a single person or animal, you even get an achievement for it as a reward, while with GTA you *cannot* finish any of the games in the series without killing dozens of people.
Not to mention Postal 2 pretty much entirely exists to make fun of the media attention the first game got. The first game is actually a little disturbing with diary entries of your paranoid schizophrenic character being displayed inbetween the levels where the goal is to murder everyone. Hatred is a really shitty ripoff of it with it even ending with you nuking the town like in postal. Postal 1 is like a 5/10 game but I actually kinda love Postal 2
@@hatknuckles3658 Yeah I was really expecting him to talk about Postal 1 specifically because man that game is fuckin odd
Its crazy how many "questionable" and downright horrid games came out before rating systems and restrictions were put in place for video games. I took an Evolution of Video Games course last semester in uni and we briefly went over some of the insane games that came out 80s and 90s, a few of which were mentioned in this video.
Its also interesting to see the sort of "revival" a lot of games, similar to ones in the first few tiers, have had recently. Especially with the boom in indie-horror games we've seen in the past few years.
The thing I love about wendigoon is that he can take you to the most horrific places with him and you still feel safe and cared for because he just radiates that decency and good. He's our Virgil in this Inferno.
"He's our virgil in this inferno" is a beautiful way to describe his channel
@@crestothegecko6279agreed 😂
I really want him to review “the house that Jack built” now.
Such a great metaphor
Omg so wholesome 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
i am 27 and have been scared of virtually everything (could not watch ANY disturbing media at all), i watch your videos for a while now and can indulge in this "genre" of content in a safe and respectful way, thank you so much
I'm soon turning 27 and touché
yeah i really like wendigoon’s style of just storytelling and showing some not graphic pictures/videos, and the way he’s very careful and thoughtful of how he presents stuff. i like consuming media talking about disturbing stuff but man do i get somewhat easily disturbed anyway 😅 watching videos from youtubers like nexpo makes me a little uneasy because he delves straight into the media with the sounds on and all that but i still looove his work, i just have to be in the right mindset for it lol
I'm 43 and trauma has dispelled any enjoyment of being spooked for me so this channel and Hannah the horrible are just the best. I can learn and not add to my nightmares.
10 year old me is running circles around you 💀
@@fortnitesexman Bro is 10 and named "fortnitesexman"
The closest thing I can think of that is similar to the Everos and the whole you can only play at night concept is Boktai, which was a game boy advance game that had a light sensor built into the cartridge. This was used to charge the weapons in the game which are used to kill vampires, so sort of the reverse of Everos' concept. I think it also used the time of day and that sort of thing to have an effect on the game.
Probably not the game Hideo Kojima is as well known for now.
“God is dead...”
-Bilbo Baggins
Literally the first game to pop in mind with that comparison. Lol
Games with unique time restrictions are fascinating when they tie into the in-game lore.
There’s a game called Dreamy Rainbow 2 (sequel to the first) which can also only be played at night. It was an fan made MLP game inspired by another fan creation called Luna game. If the player tried playing during the day Rainbow Dash would appear in a brightly lit level where Pinkie Pie would tell her to come back at night. I also remembered that Luna game could only be played once, once the game is over it deletes itself and I believe you can’t download it again with the same device and email. Pretty cool tbh I wish more games nowadays had cool and unique was to spook people like that
Izzzyzzz has a good videos on obscure internet horror
There was a really cool horror game that used a lot of live-action video called Hotel 626 (and later Asylum 626). It could only be played between 6pm and 6am. Part of it involved calling a real phone number. Sadly it was taken off the internet years ago but you can find a few playthroughs on RUclips! Also it was all a weird marketing ploy for Doritos
@@apenguinnamedabraham that sounds like quite the game 😅 but thx sounds super cool reminds me of the whole “hey pea brain you teleport” thing in Tumblr a few years back
the Kanye Quest one turned out to be a joke by a teenager, there's a (bad) documentary series by Grouse House called 'Finding Yeezus" where they contact the now-adult developer (skip to the last episode (5) cos literally nothing contributes to the 'investigation' until then)
If you're wanting to change it up from icebergs, doing something on the Satanic Panic of the 80's/90's might be a good fit. I think it'd be interesting to see discussion of it from someone who's still in the faith
I second this. As a metalhead, it’s interesting how much the satanic panic influenced the sound and culture of metal, and how some bands (like Venom) used the panic to become insanely influential within the scene
@@scareraven9669 don’t forget how reaction to the Satanic Panic in the metal scene culminated in the “Norwegian Black Circle” enacting real life violence in the name of Satan lol
After just getting done with the manhunt of Eddie Munson in Stranger Things, and remembering the real life people he was based off of, and seeing the absolute damage it still does to this day... Yes.
I remember kids in elementary being so ingrained in the satanic panic still due to their parents fears that they'd attack kids for wearing black, or mentioning paganism, it was wild shit.
@@spyderbyte975Typical fundamentalism. Religion is a mental illness.
This would be extra interesting considering wendigoon is a devout Christian.
"If they're a good cult they'll already have pictures of you; they should've done their homework"
-Wendigoon, 2023
Well he ain't wrong......
Pretty freaky to think about
"good" should be interchangable with "competent" when referring to a cult. being "good" at it, means you're effective and precise. come to think of it, i think it's interchangable when talking about [insert number[ of humans or living things. being a "good" worker, a "good" friend etc.
i hope nobody thinks any cult is actually good in the sense of right and wrong.
and i don't think it's creepy, it's a relief, it means they know enough to not mistake you for someone they wish to harm. i bet i'm recorded in cult databases and i'm fine with that. if they know i'm not in the way, or an adversary they're after, they can't make that mistake. a competent cult is an invisible cult.
@@swanclipper They meant "good" like they good at doing sinister things like how a I might called a serial killer "good" if they know how to kill as many people as they can.
@@swanclipper why does this just make me believe your a member of a cult
The fact that there's someone out there who's able to say he won $10,000 from recreating Lee Harvey Oswald's supposed shots is wilddddd
It is pretty comical 😂
"Supposed shots" lol stop
There isn’t. The highest score achieved is 74%. No one has ever merged to recreate all 3 shots
Stop what?
@@StoutProperthey paid someone tho
Something absolutely vital to add about the whole PETA thing: People use the terms Animal Rights and Animal Welfare interchangeably, especially when talking about groups such as PETA. However, these two terms mean WILDLY different things, and the difference could not be more important when talking about caring for animals. Animal Welfare (AW) is the mindset that animals must be treated humanely and with respect, acknowledging that they have basic rights (confusing, I know, but bear with me). AW is used by the vast majority of professionals in the animal sciences field, from pet owners to vets all the way up to the AZA, which is the group in charge of all accredited zoos and aquariums in the U.S. Animal Welfare focuses on the wellbeing of the animal, ensuring that its needs are met and that it can live its happiest, healthiest life.
Animal Rights, on the other hand, is an extremist notion that animals and humans should live completely separate, something that is not only ridiculous, but also flat-out impossible. One of the best examples of animal rights vs. welfare is actually found in the Pokemon Black and White games, with Team Plasma representing the Animal Rights team (“humans and pokemon should live separately”) and the trainer representing the Animal Welfare team (“humans and pokemon should coexist and help each other”).
PETA falls flat into the Animal Rights category.
PETA believes that humans and animals should live completely separate, and that includes animals that literally cannot live without humans. PETA believes that it is inhumane to own any animal at all, including cats or dogs. PETA believes that humans should not own any animal, despite the fact that domesticated species do, in fact, exist. In fact, PETA would rather see your pet dead than living happily with you.
Not only is PETA flawed on a fundamental level, but they are also involved in a whole list of controversies that honestly deserve an iceberg all on their own. Here is just the very tip of PETA’s iceberg, which can all be found with less than five minutes of googling.
- PETA kidnapped/kidnaps pets off of people’s porches and euthanizes them. This has happened multiple times.
- PETA shelters have insanely high euthanasia rates, upwards of 95%
- PETA made the entirely untrue claim that drinking milk causes autism, and did it in one of the most ableist and offensive ways possible
- PETA has connections to terrorist organizations and a known arsonist
- PETA has, on multiple occasions, compared meat farms to the HOLOCAUST, and eating meat to being antisemitic, which is ironic considering their own antisemitism
And SO much more.
So no, PETA is not a group trying to help animals or any of that bullshit. They serve their own greedy motives, hidden behind a self-righteous mask.
Source?
I looked a lot of this up, 60% true but still, wild!
We know a lot about PETA's controversies, but I have never heard anyone talk about PETA's CEO. What in the actual hell is the CEO up to? With the controversies, this just proves that the higher you are in organisation, the least likely you'll be convicted for the crimes you've commited.
This goes especially for responsibility, as a corporation unlike a person is more than just a single person running an entire network of businesses, its a multitude of people involved in the matter who have their own ideas and biases towards others.
Even if they are all linked to a serious controversy or allegation, they all contributed to some part of it, and not all. Its like a bad cake that a group of people made, each part of the bad cake was done by each person. So because of this, if most deny their actions, or are less severe than others, they can get away with most of the potential crimes all they want without the fear of more losses than benefits, which in turn keep the corporation still relatively alive.
Even if some people are lost, the CEO can replace them because there's more than one human on this Earth. Even if the person knows the truth and wants change, if the CEO of said corporation are nefarious, they can topple them down like nothing and keep their status-quo up.
Welcome to the dark side of capitalism y'all.
@@Just_A_Guy_Here. is there a bright side of capitalism lmao
Not reading that essay
Theres a special kind of beauty behind being told of the most disturbing and traumatizing wonders of the world by a man wearing a red button up shirt with lemons on it. The juxtaposition is truly a work of art.
The wendigoon experience
A man who seems to be the nicest person, too
A neat thing I learned about postal: in the remake or something they removed the original ending, which was a cutscene where a school shooting plays out, when asked why they removed the ending they said something along the lines of “we wanted to make the most shocking ending… and it’s not as shocking anymore ”
Jesus Christ indeed.
LMAO
I think it played along the lines of that ending trying to be as shocking and crazy as possible at the time the game was made, but in this time it was just a cruel reality instead.
Except that I thought you weren't able to shoot once you got to that point?
@@TacticalBaguette It's a cutscene basically, you can't control it and can't shoot them i think.
The funniest thing to me about JFK reloaded is that you can download mods that reposition you to locations based on conspiracy theories and the game becomes 100x easier to score high on
OML-
No way 😭
Oh my
good video!! i love your attitude wendigoon!
the message at the end was really nice, and very grounding. "you've got to go looking for the bad stuff, because there's so much good stuff you've got to wade through"
stay awesome Wendi!!
My father went to columbine high school when the shooting occurred, and one of the teachers saved his life that day, every day i owe my life to the man who saved my father, I went to columbine for my high school career and the community was genuinely kind and everyone cared for each other, I cannot believe the disrespect of creating a video game about carrying out the events of that horrid day truly disturbs me
you don’t understand, the creator of the game was *bullied*
@@chrism.3354 and creating the game harms no-one. while being bullied is being harmed. simple disrespect is incredibly petty and tame compared to the actual events
@@chrism.3354Yooo I didn't realise being bullied was an excuse to start shooting up other children
@@JesusChristDenton I’m sure the families of the victims would consider a game mocking their dead children to be a form of bullying but ok.
@@chrism.3354 Thing is, they actually weren't bullied. They actually had pretty okay reputations at the school. The shooting was never carried out as some twisted form of "revenge". It was pure malice and evil.
Your little reassurance at the end, that this is the worst stuff you can find, is probably very comforting to someone who may come out of content like this in a doomspiral. I like that you added it, it’s a nice touch.
He's mentioned this in I think one or two other videos before, I hope it becomes something of a staple, tbh
Honestly Wendigoon is a wonderful human being
Remember, in addition to making bad flash games, PETA also murders pets indescriminently
i cant believe our boy didn’t cover peta’s pokemon spoof. truly the worst thing my eyes have ever beheld
They actually do discriminate quite regularly. They start with the old sick, ugly and aggressive ones first because there is less chance of them getting adopted.
@@soulfuzz368 you're right, they actually only Euthanized 75% of all animals they sheltered last year, that's a solid 15% drop from a few years ago.
@@soulfuzz368Key word there is pets. They have kidnapped and euthanized people’s pets before and on multiple occasions.
PETA believes that pet ownership is akin to slavery, and animals should be left to nature. It basically invalidates tens of thousands of years of domestication.
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that's if you give Kanye Quest 3030 your name or a picture of yourself, the game doesn't save it and it ends up getting deleted
Sounds like something the developer of Kanye Quest 3030 would say
0:00 Intro
3:21 Sponsor
5:56 Level 1
16:08 Level 2
22:53 Level 3
30:12 Level 4
46:13 Level 5
I am going to kiss you
Thank you
This is **WAY** too low.
@@deadeyeddog🤨
@@Lunar-oddity Ain't nothing wrong with 2 men kissing, on the lips. We got socks on so it's ok
Don’t apologize for not having a faster upload schedule! Your videos take a while because they’re all super in depth, you do copious amounts of research, and you pour your heart and soul into every video. I would absolutely much rather only watch a video from you once a month, for example, and it be from the thorough Wendigoon I’ve come to enjoy, than you post a video every day but it’s not anything like these videos.
postal 2 is actually a lot more like GTA than many may realize!! you can actually run through the entire game without committing any crimes. all violence is completely optional! that’s why the studio would market the game as “only as violent as you are”. i love this game its really fascinating the “lore” behind it.
How is that like GTA? Violence is literally mandatory in GTA if you want to progress.
@@JTidiotboy i have never played GTA, wendigoon made it sound like that aspect of the game wasn’t the whole premise, sorry for the misconception
Thank you thank you thank you I was obsessed with LSD dream emulator when I was a teenager and I forgot the name of it. I’m so glad that you brought it back up.
I appreciate that the guy that made the Columbine Shooting RPG understood a Clockwork Orange better than %99 percent of people presumably on his first watch and despite all that he was going through
Maybe it's because he was in a similar mindset, which allowed him to realize he was in danger of ending up just like them.
That's why art should be confrontational it should challenge us. Then, at least one person might actually realize what you're really trying to say.
What do 99% of people think watching that movie? That you're supposed to do all those things? I don't understand. Also that movie has themes beyond a simple good v bad narrative as well.
@@DieTreppenwitza lot of people thinks it’s the glorification of violence yk
@@DieTreppenwitztons of people used to think it glorified violence, look up early reviews of the movie, many couldn't look deep enough to see the real meaning (despite it being entirely undisguised and obvious)
@@MontySlython TIL I guess. It's pretty obvious I thought but then again it's also pretty obvious that people will find a weird interesting whenever they can
I'm actually surprised that Rule of Rose was left off of this list. While the game itself wasn't that disturbing the game created such a massive moral panic before it was even released due to a false review that in Italy the government had an entire meeting over it and tried to propose bills spurred by it. They even tried creating an entire group dedicated to reviewing and rating games despite the fact PEGI existed and had already done it.
I mean, I'd argue that there was some pretty disturbing stuff in that game too. I remember playing it for the first time and thinking it was one of the most "adult-themed" horror games I had ever played, in that it has a lot of sexual violence, child abuse, animal abuse, etc. Out of all of the popular PS2 era survival horror games I've played, I'd argue RoR was the most disturbing and uncomfortable (Haunting Ground was also up there for me too. Both of these games are some of my faves!)
Sounds like interesting but obscure bit of trivia probably known only to gamers in Italy or surrounding countries or people big into the game itself (another one of those PS2 horror titles like Haunting Ground, Kuon and Clock Tower 3 that sold poorly but became huge cult favorites that are stupidly, prohibitively expensive to buy nowadays) he probably would come across if he was making a much bigger, in-depth video like the movie one or the conspiracy theory one (which, of all the icebergs he's done and will ever do probably nothing will top the monument that is the conspiracy theory iceberg series) on this but it seems he made this as a quickie video to give people something to watch in the interim while waiting for the next bigger upload he plans to do.
I’d definitely say Rule of Rose doesn’t need any help in order to be considered disturbing. Like the commenter up there said, the game is riddled with themes of sexual violence and bullying. It truly showcases how isolating those situations can feel, how lonely and dour. It’s beautiful, yet horrifying and sad in that way
I think none of these games are actually disturbing except for Columbine RPG and maybe Sad Satan. Most of them are either very bad in terms of gameplay or just trying way too hard to be edgy.
I agree, as soon as I saw the title I got really excited for him to cover Rule of Rose and was a little disappointed. It's definitely up there in my top favorite disturbing games, not just because it's dark and has that level of "ohh this is banned so it's taboo and I wanna play it", but because it's actually a decent game. The story, while dark, is very well put together and the environments are so interesting and you'd never see that ending coming. It's actually up there in my list of favorite games and I'd even go so far as to say that I think it's easily as good as some of the first Silent Hill games that have come out.
49:39 I think that one takes the cake for being the creepiest "game" ever. Having your entire computer compromised without your knowledge while being watched all the time through your webcam is my biggest phobia
I’m shocked by the amount of people who don’t already own a cover for a desktop camera or just don’t have one it off
I experienced it. It wasnt nice. I am still paranoid about it. Be careful online guys. Even though it is not the way it used to be, it still is kind of a wild west. It sucks.
@@mingdingingmasochist TRUEEE but there's no way to cover your desktop files with an infection (especially if you use windows)
This is why if you EVER have to play anything sketchy, you throw it in a VM that doesn’t have shared folders and network activity on, and disable as many USB devices in it as possible.
Imagine downloading and running an .exe from any chan. Those idiots got what they deserved lol
Fun Fact about RapeLay: The developers, Illusion, stayed active making a ton of games up until 2022 even getting a few of their games on steam, translated to english and all.
Remember that VR game about messing around with a japanese schoolgirl in her bedroom that every lets player covered a while back, including Markiplier and Pewdiepie, VR Kanojo? it was made by Illusion too!
They closed shop recently but a very similar developer called Ill Games appeared soon after, sounds like they maybe wanted to wipe the slate clean, but who knows?
that freaky japanese school girl game !! makes so much sense that they made it :|
TRUE. I remember pewdiepie playing it when I was 10… I’m surprised that no one put them on blast for that
My brother in christ you have the gall to release more high quality long-form videos in two months than most youtubers in the same category would do in a year, and then go ahead and say "sorry for the lack of content lol". What a legend.
Yeah boy, get on ya knees and work that rod
We are talking about the same guy that thanks you every ten minutes for watching instead of shilling his Patreon.
@@SkylerMillerTheBronxProject big truth
@@SkylerMillerTheBronxProjectand proceeds to be very casual about the whole youtube thing like he's not even doing the youtube shtick and just talks about shit like you would a drinking buddy.
Even the ad bits feel like "yo have you heard of this service? pretty cool! anyway here's something I found yesterday in the interwebs"
@@Vekcrazah it's hard to find a channel that doesn't make you want to skip the sponsored part of the video. wendi and internet historian have it down to a T in their own ways
This is definitely going to get buried, but a duo of conspiracy investigators/comedians (who are also funded by the Australian government) actually looked into Kanye Quest and found the creator. They were essentially a former student who made it as a project, with the Ascensionism stuff added due to it being a separate project they wanted to make before deciding to just merge it with KanyeQuest. The reason why the information was so hard to find was because apparently the developers had a falling out and NDAs were signed. The musician Nexpo theorised as being the head of the Ascensionism cult was just being a musician who took advantage of the publicity and he just began shitposting.
Skibbidi pibbidi boppity
Nexpo? Not dey wei
Elite level shitposting
ascend and worship the basedgod
Those two games about rape are a different level to me. I feel like them having there own tier really does do them justice, because there is a lot to be said about how sexual assault is treated even in the modern day. I don't know why those two in particular disturb me, but I think rape is probably the worst thing you could do to someone.
@oleander7635 Absolutely, these games were made by people who think of women as nothing more than objects. I feel like rape is worse than murder because at the end of the day you have to live with it and the memories. And yeah videogames usually don't influence actions, but games like these reinforce the idea that rape is something normal that should also be enjoyed, which is disgusting. The only people who would play those games are people who likely already think like that as well. Just... God it makes me uncomfortable.
The games are terrible but I doubt being into stuff like that would make you do irl, I mean look at stuff like the 50 shade books that was written by a woman.
@@yaboil7774 Well yeah it's unlikely that they would actually make someone do something, I was probably overthinking things. But you do have to admit that the games are tailored to that specific audience.
I mean I'd rather be raped than be skinned alive whilst im being showered in salt and lemon juice. In my opinion raping someone isn't the worst thing you thing you can do to them.
@@yaboil7774 my personal experience has said otherwise, but i’ll let you live in your world where this is true.
Kinda surprised Thrill Kill wasn’t on this list, tbh. We had an underground copy that I used to watch my siblings play at 3-4 years old that scarred deep into my childhood nightmares for years to come, haha. Wasn’t too much lore to it or anything, but it got banned before release for a reason. 😅 Loved the video, though!
Oh yeah i remember having a copy of Tips & Tricks magazine that had a feature on it. And then it got canceled.
I think the lack of music in this video made everything sound more eerie and terrifying. Good stuff.
True
Lmao I thought we had the same pfp
As someone who often plays horror games, I've never been more terrified of a Japanese educational game for children
Another good one is Cosmology of Kyoto though that one's not really for kids
come on rapelay is educativ for kids too
@@drachenschanze1shame on u
@@jolyne1416LOL fr
One that scared the sh.t out of me was the and I'm spelling it wrong on purpose bc it's 8 pm here and I don't need any extra night terrors tiki tiki game watching I think PewDiePie or Markiplier Playing it it scared the fk out of me replace all the I with e
I think a Disturbing Literature Iceberg would be cool.
Maybe also a Disturbing Images Iceberg.
That'd have "Blood Meridian," at the bottom.
@@al-imranadore1182 Blood Meridian is not the most disturbing book. It’s existential and scary, but it doesn’t hold a candle to some work out there. Not by far. But I’m not going to sully what little innocence the internet has left.
@@averyspecificdragon8780 Define "Disturbing literature,".
@@al-imranadore1182oh no.. were probably going to hear smth epic
@@averyspecificdragon8780I’m not a big book guy but I’ve wanted to get into it what do you think most scary is
IIRC Peta also made a pokemon rip off that REALLY upped the whole 'dogfighting' aspect where you played as the pokemon and instead fought the trainers, who were changed to look batshit insane. Amusingly enough the generation they used was pokemon black & white.
Thanks for not filling it up with the same generic titles other iceberg videos do. Really refreshing to see something actually obscure and disturbing
My farts are better than Wendigoon’s farts.
Man I'm sorry but did we watch the same video? This is all normie shit
8:30 One of my best friends is a veterinarian; she dedicated her life to becoming one when she was in _preschool,_ and never faltered. She takes a back seat to no one in her dedication, her love of animals and her expertise about them. I find it quite telling that she absolutely _despises_ PETA, holding them responsible for more animal suffering than they've ever managed to prevent.
Literally stole a homeless man’s dog from him and put them down just bc he was a homeless man and they said he couldn’t take care of him. (I’m not sure but I think he was taking decent care of the dog despite his situation) and took a young girls dog just because they thought it was a stray. Just knowing that i fucking hate them. Not to mention their vegan teacher/(angry psychotic vegan youtuber I forgot his name) type of promotion style for the wine cause is awful and traumatizing and feels like there is a gun to your head,. Which will NOT help people to care about animal cruelty.
@@kawaiicake8038calling it awful and traumatising it quite dramatic its just poorly done
@@cj-pe5mj I think I was being dramatic when I said traumatizing. I can get like that when I feel strongly about stuff (I currently think my adhd has to do with it). But what they have ended up doing in their efforts to “save” animals IS in my opinion awful. The things I’ve heard and read and seen through online media is awful. Not just in what’s being done I mean, but I also mean in how they are going about what they say their cause is the wrong way.
PETA moment
if your friend loves animals so much why did she get a job where 90% of it is spent euthanizing animals and seeing animals suffer?
i cannot describe how much i love this lovely youth pastor who is simultaneously responsible for introducing me to some of the most horrific, soul crushing horror created by humanity... and is also the sole provider of fatherly warmth and safety on this abysmal machine that pedals nothing but the creeping feeling of despair we call the internet...
love you dad
Wendidad is a phenomenal dad.
Hopefully he doesn't go to the store to buy milk....
@@Zarath0sThanat0s milk is great for you though :( let him buy milk
@@woodlefoof2no he’ll leave us plus i’m lactose intolerant
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About the first game you talked about-- the one with the vampire that you can only play at night-- there were two other games that used the same system, but but they were free online games as opposed to ones you had to buy. They were produced by the company that makes Doritos of all things, as advertisement for a few flavors they were bringing "back from the dead". The gimmick was that the site was only open from six at night to six in the morning, hence the titles of these games: Hotel 626 and Asylum 626.
You'd think they'd be super ad-heavy or full of product placement, but no, they were legitimately fun little web-horror experiences with next to nothing to do with the product they were intended to promote. Unfortunately, they're considered lost media because the sites were taken down in 2011, I think? Which is just a shame because they were really neat.
The cool thing about Wendigoon not uploading a ton is you know he is making something crazy cool and not just leaving without a word
I adored cooking games as a kid, and I will never forget how traumatized I was when I found a Cooking Mama game and it was a Peta collaboration. Needless to say I moved on from cooking games
Yes I remember playing this one! Where you had to brutally kill and cook a turkey and then cook a tofu vegan dish after? I played that when I was a kid and was so weirded out by the concept of it
OH MY GOD I PLAYED THE SAME GAME!!!!!!! i remember playing an actual cooking mama game and being like ???? wheres the blood because i didnt know antyhing about video games at the time so i just assumed that was what cooking mama was
@@LDVenus-kz2lc yup, that one! [war flashbacks]
It wasn't a actual cooking mama collaboration with peta, Peta were making a shock ""parody""
@@almond3066 in that case, it's weird how they didn't get sued
Just have to say: your upload schedule is ridiculously impressive, please don't feel like you should apologise if it slows down a for a short while, and especially not if that's due to working on other projects. You're always keeping such high-quality content coming, at this point I think it's safe to say that the majority of us are here for the long haul. Can't wait to see what you've been working on; if you're excited about it, I've no doubt it'll be worth it!
The funny thing about Postal 2 is the quote "It's graphic and over the top because that's what it aims to be" is exactly what they want you to say. You can choose to just do things normally. Heck if you never pee on anyone you miss out on an entire mission because you're char never finds out he has an STI. The tagline is "The game is only as violent as YOU are". (though there's still a lot of bad stuff happening even if you do it pacifist so.... grain of salt)
I would love a "5 hours of Wendi describing horrible things over and over". I spent my day off watching The Conspiracy Theory Iceberg.
Watch his video about The Blood Meridian. Literally 5 hours of horrible event after horrible event.
OGs watched the original conspiracy theories by tiers and parts
same
@@zafiruzoma6234sometimes i find it hard to believe it's been 3 years since those videos already
@@zafiruzoma6234 Yeah, I only learned about him from The Lore Lodge
About the PETA flash games, some of the games actually link to videos of animal abuse. The Mario parodies had links to videos taken secretly in factory farms and another game called "Sammy the Seal" has a mutilated seal as the game over screen. That's probably why it's on this iceberg.
You're correct about everything you said, but it's on the iceberg solely for the reasons Wendigoon gave. He made it himself. Although the additional info you gave would've probably put it on a lower level of the iceberg, if he knew.
Your “Blood Meridian” video has consumed my life ever since I watched it. Your ability to tell a story is nothing short of master craft. Thank you sir, for all of your efforts.
Oh I enjoyed that video for like 5 days I loved it and it consumed my whole week
Quest For Bush sounds like one the most ironically fun games I've heard of.
16:59 I'm the author of the 雨月奇譚 translation guide on GameFAQs. I've never heard this rumour before and I can't find anything about it on the Japanese internet which leads me to believe it's a western creepypasta. But I'd love to be proved wrong! It's great to see this game get more coverage either way!
It is a remake of a PC 98 game. The game is based on a novel from the Edo period with the same title.
雨月 usually refers to the harvest moon which is obscured by rain. Japanese has a lot of different words to describe different moons, which often appear in Haiku. In this game, the word refers to a haunted house attraction that the main character mysteriously finds themselves in front of.
Thank you for the clarification!
@@benjaminbaki1758 You're welcome! The aim is to share information about these obscure games and hopefully build enough interest to get some translations done someday!
That’s cool 😎
It’s always comforting getting home from a long day feeling kinda crappy and seeing that one of the most well researched and most entertaining RUclipsrs has posted a new video. This man’s videos are an utter godsend and I’m so glad that we get to enjoy them.
couldn't agree more
The Rachet and Clank games had a fun time sensitive Easter egg in them. It was a concept art museum that you could only access at 4am. Because in a game by Insomniac Studios you need to be an insomniac to see their secrets.
Even though I haven't watched all of your videos, you're hands down my favorite youtuber. Your content is so thorough and interesting... it takes me a bit to watch your videos so I can let my thoughts marinate, but that's what is cool about these videos.
32:03 *Eric and Dylan were not bullied - they **_were_** bullies.* This is a fact that has been ignored by media, and repeated ever since. It has been trotted out as "proof" that "something needs to be done" without any effectual solutions implemented. This is precisely because the people who demand "something to be done" have no idea what it is that they are talking about.
Being bullied does not make someone more likely to become a mass shooter, however, being a *sadist,* the way that Eric and Dylan were, plays a significant role. People who are bullied are more likely to either self harm, or attempt suicide. People who have been bullied are not more likely to bully others, precisely because they know what it feels like to be on the receiving end.
I was coming in here to say this.
I suggest you get acquainted with the notion of "troll shielding", and be assured that it does happen even in real life.
@@transparentblue (Note: sorry for the length. I wanted to try and be super clear in my response. I understand if you don't want to read it all, just skip to the example section toward the bottom.)
I'd encourage you to re-read the second paragraph I had written. I purposefully tried to phrase it in a careful way that would not speak in absolutes. I wrote it that way because people don't act like robots, and do react to similar stimuli in different ways. Yes, some of those reactions may be to bully other people. This outcome, in my own research, is small enough to be insignificant.
More to the point, the chance of a bullied student bullying another student and _then_ committing a mass shooting in retaliation to having been bullied is so rare that I cannot name a single case of where this has ever been the primary contributing factor. I do realize the media has asserted this... _repeatedly_ ...and that it has been, in turn, regurgitated ad infinitum by similar outlets, but from what I have read, those primary news sources have been questionable under optimal circumstances.
Bullying, as I am defining it is student-to-student, or faculty-to-student. This form of bullying does not cover things like: environmental home abuse, or abuse stemming from other variables like, mental illness outside of school (i.e. continued harassment at a grocery stores, movies, at work, etc.), which are more likely to contribute to a mass casualty event. Both of those types of situations are more likely to contribute to mass casualty event because they _foster tendencies_ towards sadism, not victimhood.
Talking about edge case situations are largely uninteresting; pointing out the exception to the rule is not equivalent as a proper retort of a claim regarding probability. My assertion was in regards to _probable_ outcome, the _most likely_ response, *not* any kind of "assured" or "fated" outcome.
Now, to be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one or two mass casualty shooters had been bullied at some point or another, but, I would absolutely argue that their having been bullied is a non-contributing factor, in comparison to other variables.
*Example:*
* Some people who are bullied go on to bully other people to make themselves appear stronger, in hopes of getting their own bully to stop. I.e. Troll shielding.
* Some people who are bullied are completely indifferent to the situation and ignore it entirely.
* Some people who are bullied make a point of working out or learning a martial art to appear stronger.
* Some people who are bullied tell a responsible adult who helps address the situation in an effective and careful manner.
* Some people who are bullied are likely to self harm, or attempt suicide.
One of those statements is far, _far_ more thoroughly documented than the others. Do those _other_ situations occur too? Absolutely! I just can't think of a case where any of those other events turned the person who was bullied, into becoming a mass shooter.
Generally speaking, the hallmarks of a potential mass shooter are:
* Severe mental and physical trauma at an early age
* Undiagnosed (or untreated) severe mental illness (This covers a wide range of things, like hyper fixation, obsessive behavior, manic behavior, compulsive fits, and sudden inexplicable violence. Again, predilections to violence like: sadism, BPD, intermittent explosive disorder, or similar also are common)
* Alienation or involuntary isolation
* Unexpected life changing event (death of a parent, moving across country, etc.)
* Removal of coping outlet (This usually blends into the two above, generally there is a family member that had been reliable which is gone, or some specific activity/outlet which is no longer possible)
* Outward threats issued by the shooter (verbal, written, etc.)
* Access to weapons and ammo
@@SawtaYou say you don’t speak in absolutes and yet you are laying potential hallmarks of school shootings without stating which ones apply to Columbine’s situation. Please clarify your statement for my sake because I am not bothered to do the research on my own.
@@micahcoleman2760 don't waste your time with this know it all.
From disturbing human experiments to disturbing video game iceberg, Wendigoon has it all, majestic storytelling
Let's say, hypothetically, I am a barbie girl. Okay let's even say I'm in a barbie world. Right so, in this scenario, I would obviously know from personal experience that life in plastic is fantastic. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume you could brush my hair and undress me literally everywhere? Imagination; you can derive from the fundamentals of basic logic that life is your creation.
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I had Erevos! The sunset mechanic was actually really cool and gave the game some real personality, also made the game creepier since I was just in my dark room jumping at every sound
don't ever worry about 'slacking' my guy, some of my favourite youtubers only post MAYBE once a year if i'm lucky so the amount we get from you is like winning the lottery! love ya man
It's like seeing an old friend again, and they remember all of the goofy shit you used to get up to. God I love this channel.
Overrated comment tbh…
@@foolishgamer99 ok.
I love that you said goofy.
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The thing about the Columbine shooting is that Danny and Eric weren't bullied. There was no trenchcoat mafia. It wasn’t an attack on evangelicals. This was a premeditated attempt to be as devestating as possible by two boys who hated the world. There are hours of home videos made by the two that basically spell out the whole thing, but we're stuck with the "truth" that was being made up in real time as it was happening.
Thank you for pointing this out. Those narratives are ones that have infuriated me for the longest time, that we can never seem to shake, apparently.
How could you know they weren't victims of bullying?
Why do you say they weren’t bullied?
They were bullied. This has been confirmed by many people who knew them. What people also forget is that they were also bullies themselves.
Dylan and Eric were definitely bullied. Sue Klebold (Dylan’s mother) mentions in her book a time when Dylan came home covered in ketchup from being bullied. They bullied others, and were bullied themselves. The narrative that they were never bullied is just pushed to make it easier to categorize them as evil without having to face the realities of their lives. The Trenchcoat Mafia was real, but Dylan and Eric were not a part of it, and it was really just a name for a group of kids who liked to hang out and dress weird.
The fact you get to entertain millions by talking about stuff you find interesting… so fucking cool man. Congrats on your hard work you deserve it all.