The First Ever Wireless Hack: Marconi vs Maskelyne
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2016
- No, it wasn't called "hacking" back then: it was called "scientific hooliganism". Let's talk about Marconi, Nevil Maskelyne, and a demonstration that didn't go as planned. And go check out the Royal Institution's channel! • Slow Motion Contact Ex...
I'm indebted to Sungook Hong's wonderful book "Wireless", which helped me track down some of the more obscure sources here -- and to the British Library, whose incredible archives and microfilm tapes helped me find the original newspapers and journals you see in the video.
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Scientific hooliganism sounds cool.
+Smetvrees Sounds like a electronica band... please welcome to the stage, the Scientific Hooligans!!! (computer generated applause)
not just computer generated applause, but applause generated through white noise.
I quietly remove my ridiculous tie
SABOTAGING MARCONI'S WIRELESS [GONE AWRY]
[GONE SENSUOUS]
[GONE PECULIAR]
[POLICEMEN ALERTED]
[CONSTABULARY ARRIVES]
[I NEARLY PERISHED]
This one weird trick makes wireless operators hate him, you wont believe what happens next.
MarcAFK
So what DID happen next?
You won't believe you won't beliefs.
Every word should start with a capital letter and there should be "!" instead of "."
@@PouLS I don't think wireless telegraphy had capital lettering.
2016:“And so in the prestigious lecture hall of the Royal Institution, where Faraday and many, many others gave public talks -- and still do --”
2019: *gives lecture in the royal institution*
A true king
Yup
damn, Faraday still out here giving talks?
@@blak4831 You've heard of the Faraday Cage, keeping out voltage.
Now, get ready for the **Faraday Coffin** !
@@blak4831 I went to the Faraday Lectures three years running.
Bugger never turned up...
I think this is the hardest I've ever researched for a video: the texts you see on screen were taken direct from the British Library's wonderful microfilm and text archives!
Sounded legit :)
I'm now curious on how the word hacking in computing originated
if only its this easy to hack now...
also u should pin this comment so more people see it. your comment is kinda buried under everything else
The Marconi Satellite dish is in my backyard in Wall, NJ - if you ever do a video on it you could meet my cats!
The Royal institutions logo makes it look like it's an Adobe product.
+Marcel Robitaille I think it's meant to look like an element on the periodic table (probably like the adobe suite as well).
This historical rivalry would be a great premise for a movie. Patents getting in the way of progress and hacking to expose faults within a system are extremely relevant to today's issues.
Nothing new under the sun.
Thomas Edison would be the villain
It would be essentially a wireless technically version of The Prestige
*pauses to read the newspaper clippings* "Extravagant consumption of gold leaf . . . "
Well, that was a long way to go for a comedy callback. Nicely done!
To me, the most interesting thing about this all is the fact that what started out as a way to disguise a broadcast eventually turned into a way to make it more accessible. It really shows that the way a piece of technology functions depends not on the technology itself, but the way people use it.
These videos could easily be recorded on a green screen, and it doesn't seem like standing in some field would make a difference, but I love all these videos because I love seeing the random locations of history. I could stand in that spot and not even know its history. So cool
I think Tom likely cherishes the travel part of his job.
0:37 didn't know Faraday was still alive
Wrong Faraday
Same thought: "Well, that's an impressive lecture hall. Gotta go there some day to see Faraday"
you know what they say, a Faraday keeps the doctor away
When they let him out of his cage.
underrated comment above
Adobe Royal Institution :D
+K1ngjulien_ Here for all your scientific design needs.
The Royal Institution You people are the best!
Must've upgraded to CC.
@@TheRoyalInstitution Oh GOD YOU PEOPLE REPLIED!
The sad thing is that there are people who hack in to things for the sole purpose of making the problem aware, yet the hackers still get in trouble.
_"to new Finland in Canada"_ To where now?
*subtitles on*
_"to Newfoundland in Canada"_ Ooh, right. Continue.
That's the correct pronunciation, though.
b’ye
this kind of broadcasting equipment would be wildly illegal today
Yes, but that’s because we have a lot of devices relying on wireless communication, and back in the day there were close to none.
I really want to build one now even though i have absolutely no idea of how to
@@taysem321 and then broadcast an AM transmission saying "rats" over and over again?
That bit caught my attention. A simple device that broadcasts a signal to every radio for miles, you’d think that kind of thing would be common knowledge
@@BarginsGalore It is, it's called a jammer. you can build one without much trouble, just when you turn it on at a power setting where other people are affected by it, you'll receive the mother of all noise complaints. Deliberately interfering with wireless communication carries a sentence of up to 2 years plus unlimited fine in the UK
'Rats!' used to be an interjection denoting disbelief, rather than referring to long tailed rodents. Its's rather dropped out of favour now, and may not be clear to younger viewers.
Humbug!
Who doesn't know rats is disbelief
I know it as more of a generic interjection, kind of like a euphemism for a swear word
Nuts!
It's more about disgust than disbelief.
From walking an empty hall to giving a talk. Good work, Tom.
Can we bring back the term "scientific hooliganism"? I love it.
0:37 - "Where Faraday and many, many others gave public talks on science, and still do."
Christ, he Faraday must be getting on a bit. I wonder if he's gotten his letter from the Queen yet.
+HaniiPuppy He got his letter from Queen Victoria.
I thought the name Maskelyne rang a bell ... his son Jasper Maskelyne, a stage magician, had a role re' camouflage techniques in the Second World War.
Alf Noakes Horrible Histories, anyone? 😂
I was thinking of the Nevil Maskelyne who was British Astronomer Royal in the 1700s
Can you do a video about Microsoft's Tay AI?
YES YES YES
Bump.
+brandonbair BUMP
+brandonbair Wait. It was an AI? I thought it was an Artificial Ignorance?
+TechyBen that's the most ignorant comment I've ever read. (this is a backwards compliment dueto AI and AI being the same)
Even if you've given the company plenty of time and private notice to fix their flaw, it doesn't stop them from suing you when you publicly demonstrate the exploit.
+Rob Spiess Just hide behind 7 vpns and a proxy
For some reason I now imagine "scientific hooliganism" in a football stadium. Well, that's a sign for me that tells me that I'm way too tired.
+kilésengati I've seen weirder signs at football stadiums.
DigitalAnalogMachine That I'm thinking about such things is a sign for me that I'm tired and should go to bed. Not "scientific hooliganism" signs in football (AE: soccer) stadiums.
2:42
I didn't know Jerma was alive in the 1900s.
"Scientific Hooliganism"
I have just discovered my new messaging service handle.
Marconi plays the mamba.
Listen to the radio.
Don't you remember?
We built this city.
We built this city on ROCK AND ROLL.
Sloop Cal Nice. I missed that reference in the 80s. Great song. If Tesla fought over the patent, that song might not be the same.
Ha, this isn't the hardest you have ever researched for a video; don't you remember that time you tried to cook noodles in a kettle?
Thank you for telling me about that video
"We flew a kite in a public place..." probably required some good research as well.
Thanks for this (and all your other fascinating vids). I've had a soft spot for Maskelyne ever since I learned about his troupe of "magicians" in WWII. Hiding ports and towns on the Suez Canal was an act of genius, and somehow, perhaps with the distance in time, hilarious. I haven't seen all of your videos yet - am working my way through them ;-) - but if you haven't done one on this, please do. I'm sure you will explain it far better than I ever could. Keep up the good work!
Every few days Tom's videos be appearing in my feed and honestly I'm not mad
I love this. As a radio Ham and wireless hacker, I can really relate to this.
Really well done video with the filming locations and newspaper extracts - must have taken a lot of planning.
All hail the great land of New Finland, Canada!
That's how "Newfoundland" is pronounced in Newfoundland. It's sort of the English places that end in "mouth" are sometimes pronounced "muth". If you say it he way it's spelled, they'll know you're "from away"
+BennyGesserit it's closer to "Newf-inland". Source: I live in the province.
+TheJman0205 Long "a" in "land". "Newfinlind" or "newfunlund" are are obviously from people outside the province.
***** Yes yes the broad North American English "A"
CanuckJim hello my friends. I know this is a 4 year old thread, but I felt the need to share that you’re all wrong. I’m very sorry. As someone from Newfoundland, I can say it is not pronounced like New Finland, although that’s a common misperception. We definitely pronounce the ‘land’ as land and not lind. It’s said like the word “understand”. Understand=Newfoundland. The ‘found’ is the only word that is changed in pronunciation
This must have been so much fun to research and film!! Great video!
As a radio amateur, I deeply appreciate this video.
marconi plays the mamba
listen to the radio
Pope-Eye
don't you remember?
+Dobby762 We built this city on Rock and Roll!
Came looking for this
Very good video, again. I just love the way you talk about such complicated topics
Make more videos about languages please they are my favourite and there hasn't been any for months
agreed.
Unfortunately, he said he ain't gonna make any soon. The person he worked with has gone on to write a book and those videos are very time-consuming to edit.
Yuuki Aira any updates?
There id something in Tom's voice that Earths your Anexity. May the sea of Answers and knowledge?
I will never know
Wow, neat info. Loving your channel, keep it coming.
Thank you Tom for your videos!
RI Lecture Theatre - nice one Tom!! :D
Not even a joke, but that guy legit is my great great great great great grandparent
Is it just me, or does Maskelyne look kinda like Chris Joel?
+SnowDemonAkuma maskelyne is his great great grandfather
I had the same thought. For a second I thought this was an April fools video
+gorge lucas Nah, Chris is just immortal and forever young.
+SnowDemonAkuma I was just about to comment saying the same thing! He reads books, you know it's Nevil Maskelyne!
I wish there were more channels like this
Brilliant. TIL this cool bit of trivia.
Fancy editing, great job.
Very interesting. Thanks Tom.
Your comments at the end made me think of the chaos computer club, a German group of benevolent hackers who advise companies and even sometimes the German government on cyber security.
Your job is amazing, you travel all around the uk and Europe to film videos!
wow! I have been there on holiday - I think... great video
I really loved your videos.
You and your videos are awesome.
"Responsible disclosure" is a bit tricky here in the US, you could get sued or worse.
I think there was a guy who found a vulnerability on a government website and tried to help, but then they threw him in jail for "compromising security".
Damn Tom, you are smart! I enjoy you and what you tell us.
Could you please post the scanned articles? I'd really like to read the whole message Maskelyne sent.
have nevere heard of that befor, very interessting, thank you!
Boy i would love to see you with colin furze in one video. Your knowledge about computers and stuff and his ability to build insane and rubbish things must end up in some sort of giant fire spitting doomsday device
they used to on sky, British tv program a couple years ago.
Radobilly Look up the show Gadget Geeks.
Erik Larson's book 'Thunderstruck' is a great resource if you want to go deeper!
Great video, I would love to see a video about the Channel Islands (UK) as someone who lives their I have found out so many interesting things that have happened especially during WW2. As well as this I also find that a lot of people (especially people in North America) don't even know the island exist.
You don't even know that we Californians have our own Channel Islands. 🤗👍
"You ready?" "No!"
"Ahh!" (splash)
""Maybe I can make people's browsers mine cryptocurrency in the background while they're, while they're on my site!""
""Oh look at me, I've bought a Lamborghini!" Buy some damn subtitles."
"Mum. I'm sorry. I've made a big mistake. I went to Slough."
"Just shut up."
"Well, sometimes it's okay to cause a little bit of drama."
nice too see you in cornwall
Very interesting, thank you
I live on/by Marconi Ave in Ireland. It was a spot for a wireless station that is now gone, It went from Ireland to nova scotia.
Brilliant !!
Woo. I live here in Cornwall
Same what part
+James Arthur same but I live in St austell area
+James Arthur Newquay
Same, Viva la Independence!!!
KVB ✊
You should cover the Redsands Forts? or have you already?
Dude, filming at the RI! Awesome stuff
+Twitchi You're welcome back any time, Tom!
+The Royal Institution That moment when you realize The RI uses the internet like your parents do...
Very interesting!
This is the exacts story that Erik Larson told in his book thunderstruck. I was literally reading this part of the book when this video came up. Scary stuff
I saw you in the may tree when you were making the video. Still so annoyed I didn't say hi
Overriding a signal is fairly easy, you just have to have a transmitter operating on the same frequency and outputting more power. It's exactly like speaking over someone else only louder.
Please upload videos in 60 fps if you can. It looks so good! ^_^
How I read the title: Macaroni and Maskline - radio shenanigans
This gave me the chills..
The eyeliner really makes his eyes pop.
Tom, at almost every cut in the video, there's a pop sound. As far as I know, they show up, when the audio wave before and after the cut don't match up closely enough.
515,601 sub :D
keep up the grrrreat work tom!!
I read his name as macroni, which when pronounced sounds like mac n' cheese from McDonalds
+Glimmargaunt which mcdonalds do they have mac and cheese at?
+JuanAZ18 It's a play on McDonalds common branding. McChicken is pronounced 'MacChicken', and so you can imagine if McDonalds did sell Mac and Cheese it would be called a 'McRoni'
Tom are you doing this year's Christmas lectures?
Nice. Reminds me of my days in the US Navy as a radioman . . . Always out there just beyond the horizon but not so far away that we couldn't see the tops of their masts were the Soviet elint ears, listening to everything we said. Yes, some of it was encrypted but, well, we know now, it was intercepted and read. And yes, we heard and listened to them too. Rats indeed.
About what you said about disclosure at the end...
In our country, it just happened twice or so in the last year that someone found a security hole in goverment-close companies systems, reported them to the companies, and they got arrested as the company claimed they caused serious damage. If they did not tell the company what they've found they would not know about anything. Roumor says the holes are still there, but I will not try them...
I'm a Newfoundlander!!! LOVE your channel :)
Great story!
I live in newfoundland and I love visiting signal hill. :)
This is news to me. Fascinating.
Gees that was a bit short. So what happened next. Was there a court case or threat of legal action, an attempt to get a law passed to brand such hooliganism as a threat to the crown or did it just peter out. I've always regarded Marconi in the same light I regard Edison, am I wrong ?
I'm guessing this is why on most devices that send and/or receive signals, you get this warning printed on it, sometimes its a sticker, sometimes its directly on the unit, sometimes its just in the instruction manual. It says, basically, that the device cannot cause interference, and it must accept any interference received, or something to that effect.
always thought marconi was macaroni
this channel is the fucking coolest.
Presuming this is amplitude modulation (AM), how can you send out a signal at multiple frequencies as carrier wave at the same time with the same message? I think I'm misunderstanding some key component in how this works
Why didn't I get this video in my subscription box!?!
Thank you for saying "Newfoundland" correctly.
Scientific Hooliganism is my new favorite word.
Don't know what it is about you Tom, but you're very interesting.
funny thing is if you poke at security holes that haven't been fixed for years by big companies and pull a harmless demonstration of it, they'll just sue you for attempting to hack into their servers, claim any losses on insurance, and leave the security hole unfixed
really funny that
One thing's for sure: marconi plays the mamba
Great video, but I also find it interesting that you pronounce "patent" differently at 1:41 and 2:15.
That's one way to get back at patent trolls. Awesome!
What did you use to film in the royal institution. What ever it was it gives a bloody clear picture!
+Jonathan Steward it was the Sony A7s
I'd love to see you do a video on url shorteners