It wouldn’t give me any extra time. My daily driving will never use this system due to its limitations and even my regular regional trips are not in traffic jams on the freeway…Can’t think of a time when I’ve been more underwhelmed by a new technology
That is hilarious. Literally had to wait for a traffic jam on the freeway before he can use the system. Can’t use it on any other roads…Can’t use it at night…can’t use it when it’s raining… Can’t use it if there’s no cars in front of you and can’t use it over 40 miles an hour. These conditions exist in exactly 0% of my daily driving and almost 0% of my regular regional trips. Therefore, this system is worth exactly zero $ to me
It’s all a work in progress. It may not work for a whole lot of uses but still cool that it’s the first of its kind even in these more limited situations.
Lol, that's why I question when he said, "1st to level 1 and 2. " Lol. Tesla does way more, way better with less sensors. Crazy. It's useless now but I'm sure it'll get better.
@@gmarshnyc Tesla may have done more and done it better but I think the claim for being first is correct (at least from what I could find for level 1 via Google and Wikipedia).
Difference is, this system is 100% safe unlike other brands. MB will even accept liability for when the system is active. Get any other manufacturer to put their money where their mouth is like that.
@@nwbassonAny technology is 'safe' at safe speeds. Maybe level 4 will only work at 10 mph😅. The point is to release the technology when it's OK to fully integrate with our daily driving habits.
Most people don't understand that this system is offered in addition to the normal Level 2 system, which Mercedes of course also offers, without the strict limitations. These strict limitations are necessary because it must be guaranteed that malfunctions are statistically almost impossible. It just shows how difficult it is to make a system so reliable that one is also prepared to accept liability for it. This also includes covering scenarios that are extremely rare, e.g. a chain of errors with sensor failure, etc. All it takes is one scenario where the manufacturer cannot guarantee that the system will respond correctly to drop down to Level 2. The system would also probably work in rain and at night or at higher speeds, most of the time, just like their Level 2 system, but 99.9% is just not enough if you are responsible, it has to be 99.9999%. All the comparisons with other manufacturers, whose systems can supposedly do everything, are simply wrong, because they can't guarantee anything, not even at low speeds. And this subtle difference is actually quite a big one.
Bu then, what's the point in using this joke system over basic adaptive cruise control? If it can disengage at any moment if one of those 50 requirements are not met, then you still have to be ready to take over at any moment. So what's the point?
@@Zripas No the system can't disengage at any moment, that's the point and difference compared to other systems, which in the worst case, do not even recognize that there is a problem or just shut down immediately, whether you are ready or not. As long as the L3 system is active, you can read a book or watch a video. Then Mercedes is liable and responsible, not you. If the conditions are no longer met, then the driver has at least 10sec to take over, the system doesn't just shut down. Mercedes must guarantee that every situation, no matter how unlikely, is reliably detected. Imagine someone suddenly standing in front of the car in a traffic jam, for whatever reason. Now it may be that a level 2 system reliably detects and brakes thousands of times, but the one time the sun is blinding or a sensor is disturbed and the system would simply run over him. Just one example of countless that are conceivable and must be taken into account. The level 3 system must guarantee that this is practically impossible, for which it has various sensors and redundancies. If it happens anyway, it's Mercedes' fault, if you blindly rely on a level 2 system and run someone over, it's your fault and responsibility.
@@lubder It can disengage... it will warn you few seconds before, you you will have to take over because it will disengage. Just like Tesla FSD does, just like any autonomous feature, it will warn you about iminent disangament and you have to take over as soon as possible. Difference with something like Tesla system is that it will actually try to pull over to the side of the read if you fail to engage with that system, while this mercedes joke system will simply stop you in the middle of the road... I can only imagine how this joke system would attempt to handle accident or any unusual situation... Tho it does only work under 40m/h, on highway, during day time, no rain or snow or falling leaves, not in a tunnel, with car in front... At this point Mercedes will come out with 1m/h Level 5 autonomous car and call a day... it's a joke system... They just wanted that "We did it first" badge they could claim to have... Nothing more. "The level 3 system must guarantee that this is practically impossible" But its not... There are no such requirements for any system to be labeled as level 3... You only need autonomous car, aka car which can control steering, acceleration, braking, lane keeping, avoid collisions in front. Basically that's it... Same thing as any adaptive cruise control does, difference is that in this case you have car manufacturer who takes liability for any damages if something goes wrong, this is why it has like 50 different limitations put on it... Because its a bad system and no one should trust it, because manufacturer doesn't trust it... Mercedes joke system is just that, a joke, call it level 5 if you wish, it's still a joke.
@@lubder The problem is their level 2 is inferior to BMW's level 2. My X5 can drive hands free already on the highway up to 85 mph...Most people use these systems for the highway. Mercedes is trying to claim a "level 3" and they can't even get a hands free level 2 yet...It's a gimmick...
This thing is sooooo restrictive lmao how is it any different from standard lane keep assist without the nags? I also love how in one shot there’s a motorcycle splitting lanes and he says the car reacts to it, except it doesn’t move over until the motorcycle has already passed. Absolutely hilarious.
It only works in traffic. It only works when there is a vehicle in front of you. It only works during the day. In other words, it is completely useless. GM's SuperCruise is significantly more useful.
I think you misunderstood. You can engage the system just like a level 1 or level 2, but they were looking for traffic so they can show the features better. 😂😂😂😂 how can you show the features when there is no traffic? Plus clearly in the video he was engaged in self driving mode out of when they were enroute.
This is the FIRST in the automotive industry. It has these limitations since its NEW. It's a option if you want it or not. These limitations will be lessened when the programme is more ideal and reasonable to do so.
I drive about 80% of the time with Tesla's Autopilot. Only on curvy roads @ higher speeds and in tight spaces inside cities and villages i drive manually. We are not allowed to drive faster than 130 km/h. The germans need a system that works up to 450 km/h. At least! I don't have to "ok" anything. I just activate it and deactivate it when i'm finished. And i check my surroundings, other drvers who are often distracted by "something". It just works. Why can the others not deliver the same quality software?
@@JAMESBE_productionseven for road trip you still need a friend to drive slow 15-40mph in front of your car so drive pilot will work. If you watched the video, in one instance, the car in front drove too fast, so the system asked for the driver to take over😂 so retarded.
One frustrating aspect of these systems is the delay in response during "stop and go" situations, like in traffic. When the car ahead moves, the autopilot in your vehicle often has a noticeable delay before it starts moving. This can be annoying to drivers behind you due to the sluggish reaction in keeping pace with the car in front.
Could you do a test drive with Tesla FSD and do a good comparison? This Drive Pilot looks like an advanced lane keeping system... :( Would it not be a better solution to move off the road to the side and come to a complete stop, instead of doing that in the middle of the road??
The Tesla system is still a level 2 system i.e. it needs confirmed human watch and it doesn't take liability (otherwise Tesla would be even more fucked for how many accidents happen under their system). This system is no different then Tesla in it's functionaity, except that to use in the dark or on surface streets, you would only use the level 2 system in the MB.
@@benjaminkohl342 só the level 2 system from MB would drive you from a to b at higher speeds, without the need for a car in front? Would that take care of highway exits, overtaking automatically and all the other things the Tesla FDS seems to be doing pretty well?
@@benjaminkohl342 Tesla's Full Self-Driving (FSD) functions well at high speeds and can handle almost all traffic situations. Operating lower than 40 miles per hour is approximately 64km/h in good weather conditions and following a car in the same lane is no issue for the FSD system. The only reason drivers are legally required to be ready to take over within one second and to remain attentive at all times is due to regulatory constraints. Tesla has not chosen to invest the time to apply for their system to be categorized as Level 3 autonomous driving. While Tesla's customers may not be interested in a system that only functions in limited situations, I also get nervous when a Mercedes is tailgating me and not honking even when I'm driving under 40 miles per hour.
Duno why i need to keep explaining this, but here we go again. If you want any decent comparison here then you will have to do it by by comparing this joke system with Tesla autopilot or enhanced autopilot system which are made to be used on highways, just like this joke system is, that would be correct comparison. While FSD is made to be used for any type of road and anywhere, so that one isn't even comparable with this joke system.
@@Zripas If one were to make a comparison, Waymo and Cruise are the key players operating Level 4 autonomous vehicles, and they do so even during nighttime in California San Francisco. In any case, comparing them is like comparing apples to pears. Only when both systems reach Level 5 autonomy can they truly be compared against each other.
This is what they consider level 3? This is a complete joke. FSD will drive me 60 miles a day from unmarked country lanes, through highways and to a downtown location to the parking lot with zero interventions (excluding parking lots).
I don’t like the thought process of making the car stop in its lane if a driver doesn’t respond within a certain amount of time. They should program the vehicle to move to the shoulder and stop. Then the car can send out an OnStar type of alert to MB whatever or the relevant state troopers/highway patrol. Stopping on a highway in a lane is very very dangerous for everyone else. Especially if the vehicle stops right after a crest or bend in the road.
This is embarrassing Edmunds and Mercedes. For Drive Pilot to work, you can only drive on a highway with traffic, you cannot drive beyond 40 mph, the road must be clearly marked, the weather must be perfect, and it only works in daylight. TESLA FSD 12.3.4 which have NONE of these ridiculous these conditions. You can drive it anywhere (highway, local, and backroad), anytime, in any conditions. All Testa vehicles 2017 and present can do this pretty flawlessly and you can purchase the Model Y with FSD included (3 month free trail, $99/month or $8K outright purchase) for less than $40K brand new!
Most of you don’t understand what level 3 means, this car still can drive itself and do all the other things, level three means that you don’t have to really pay attention at all. Level 2 will change lanes and everything else and this car has that.
Sounds like a joke, so many requirements just to get the thing to work. First to level 1, 2 & 3 are you kidding. Maybe you need to watch some FSD Tesla videos.
Some level 2's do the same thing nothing new here in fact they work at night and rain. This lane assist and adaptive cruise are stitched together I think wrong to label them by Mercedes or too early to showcase the project.
What a garbage and worthless system. The reps from Mercedes are just there at seat fillers, the guy in the back seems like he's asleep. Tells you how much they think their own system is worth. We don't need something that will only work in 2.3% of traffic scenarios while cost $2500 a year.
So, MB beats Tesla to level 3? Hmm. Testing in Germany is not thesame as testing in the U.S. So, I'm not sold on level 3. Maybe this more like Level 2.5. The terms of use is not appealing. Sorry. Can't be used at hwy speeds in conjunction to cruise control?!. GM's supercruise still sounds more appealing. Tensions seems to be high in the cabin based on the video.😅. I won't option my MB with this system at this phase.
People are mocking this because it doesn't match their driving situation, but i can say that driving in LA or Bay Area traffic, where this is available, is a huge benefit. You experience sub-40mph traffic on a daily basis. And clearly, this will only get better with time. Regardless, this system is infinitely better than anything Tesla or others could offer. I had FSD, and it was incredibly good and dangerously bad at the same time. FSD owners will highlight how great the system is while ignoring the dozens of times it decided to slam on the brakes or steer them towards an onramp at 70 mph.
Bei diesem Video sieht man wieder einmal: Deutsche Autobauer wurden abgehangen und holen den Vorsprung anderer Automobilhersteller nicht mehr ein. Dieser Mercedes ist einfach eine farce...
“Conditional autonomous driving system” And the condition limitations are a joke. SAE certificate means absolutely nothing too by the way. They are not a governance body. It’s nothing more than a piece of paper. 40mph and under with a vehicle in front of you, good weather and a handful of freeways in CA and NV You have to hunt for traffic for it to be turned on. What a joke. And it screams at you to take over.
Lmfao they call this level 3....but refuse to let tesla use FSD as level 3 even though tesla's FSD is decades beyond this system. this is basically a "theres a car in front of us, lets just tail it" its not even close to being anywhere near level 3. I had FSD drive me 100 miles at night, in the rain with no cars around. every single condition this system cannot do.
With all this restrictions - this system is a joke... even unperfect Tesla Auto pilot (not talking about FSD) is more usable... because it works at highway speeds and in the night...
This is proof that Elon is right. You only need cameras and the more sensors you have, the greater the disruption can be with the system over analyzing. This is scary to me. You have to pay more attention than any other system as these required conditions can change so quickly!
agreed! sound like Benz dumped down the requirements for what a level 3 system really is. Even in the limitations it has - use in traffic - i bet it wont doge road debris. Lets say it can, you can’t call it level 3 with so many “it only works…” 🤣
Difference between L2 and L3 systems is basically who is liable for the damages if accident happens. Tesla auto pilot or enhanced auto pilot performs miles better than this joke Mercedes system, but Tesla simply doesn't want to deal with those possible lawsuits so its being labeled as L2. Mercedes just tries to be the "first" with L3 by paying out few millions in damage, which is cheaper than actually investing in advertisement.
This is the first phase , it will move on to high speed and poor weather functions in a few years . I think the system is capable of that now , but start gently, that's the key
It’s just embarrassing reading all the comments. Levels are regulations of liability, nothing more. And regarding that, it only makes sense to restrict the usage even if the system could handle all other scenarios. You have to compare MB level 2 to other systems and not level 3. Otherwise, you would be comparing apples to oranges.
So, to summarize, Mercedes' Drive Pilot works only when the road conditions are perfect and you're moving at the pace of a turtle. Mercedes should be embarrassed.
And to summarize, after 4 years in beta Tesla FSD still cannot read a road sign (DO NOT ENTER) , it still struggles to escape from a parking lot or parking structure, and FSD cannot react to Police or Ambulances with sirens on. FSD also routinely ignores speed bumps, and cannot see potholes or *broken* *glass* in the road. what a joke Any high school kid is a much better driver than FSD.
Tesla's FSD accelerates up to and drives at 85 mph, works great with no traffic, works great at night, works great in the rain, works great on roads without clear lane lines, including dirt roads.
Tesla is leve 2, and is full of investigation for problems and accidents and is not able to be used without a continuis control of human, and is not programmed for easy and an expected event (like a truck with traffic lights on top) that brings the car compeltely in tilt. So that is not autopilot, not a real one. Then you can push the limits of the technology but in this way you are risking you life and the one of everyone else. Plus the problem are the words of the boss that says tha the autopilot is already there, but is not, at least not in proportion with his words
Better to be safe and cautious than take lives and injure people and be sorry later. A good PR does not necessarily mean a good reliable system. A system with no incidents is a better system than any FSD or whatever.
@@6JLFilm9 What are you talking about? the FSD does all that and more. the only issue is that they wont designate FSD to level 3. not that it's not level 3.
Tesla's FSD is a simpleton Level 2 assistant that requires *100* *percent* human supervision at all times. To call it Self Driving is deceptive and laughable.
The technicalities on laying claim for lvl 1,2,3 are pretty irrelevant to me. The use cases in my opinion is what determines the usability, and this my friend feels far off from lvl3. Just cause you squeeze in 10 secs where you can actually watch youtube cause you're in traffic, driving below 40mph, its sunny, and its during the day grants you a lvl3 title, I'm sorry, I'll stick with FSD that drives highway and city streets, anytime of the day, most weather conditions, much higher speeds albeit with the frequent nags. To think i get all that limitation mercedes offers for just $2500 annually..... thanks, but no thanks.
3:50 First the software (middle screen and right) look like it was done in 2003. Second you are blocking the traffic! That's about as unimpressive as it gets. It's worse than unimpressive
Mercedes just invented the equivalent of a solar powered flashlight. Basically as long as you have car in front of you to lead you your Drive pilot will work (in addition to maintaining 15-40mph speed, day time, no rain)😂 I am surprised the person who proposed this in Mercedes headquarter didnt get fired for its ridiculousness 😮
How are people so unaware in these comments? THIS IS A HUGE FIRST REVEAL IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. It has these limitations since its NEW. It's a option if you want it or not. These limitations will be lessened when the programme is more ideal and reasonable to do so.
I had to check when thus video was released because it's soooooo far behind tesla it's not even funny. What an absolute joke. Can't use at night rain 40+mph blah blah. I can hear elon laughing from here!
In this sense, the basic 2-level automatic control works better. One standard trip I have is approx. 500 kilometers. At level 2, the car steers, adjusts the speed and keeps the distance constant for more than 90% of the driving distance. There is so little other traffic in many places in Finland that Mercedes' level 3 system would actually be a deterioration of the current situation.
@@845amg I am pretty sure it still has all the levl 2.5 Stuff on board that lets you cruise around how you describe it. Just if you want to activate level 3 you need to be in the conditions he describes. The car us still able to drive with level 2/2.5 if you prefer that. The difference here is that level 2.5 needs you to be aware of your surroundings all the time and f you crash it is your fault. In level 3 mode you do not need to be aware and if the car crashes Mercedes will pay the bill.
Hahahaha OMG, This is the worst auto pilot system I have ever heard of. I thought from the “can’t do” list that this is some kind of internet joke! Ba-Jesus, this joke is real!
Becaue Tesla has no L3 self driving to compare to. Mercedes has L2 and L3, you can use wichever you want. Tesla only has L2. Comparing L2 Mercedes self driving to L2 Tesla self driving would make sense and be fair. Plus, Tesla's L2 was way worse when it was first released, L3 obviously will be the same.
@@OnePieceSS23so you are just going to say how bad Tesla was in the beginning, but not mention how advanced the FSD is today? It's far superior to this drive pilot junk
@@unowen-nh9ov while SAE level systems are driver assistant systems, Mercedes Drive Pilot is a level 3 system, meaning the car is taking over. Under certain conditions, you are in fact driven: hands off, mind off.
@@edmundscars BMW has a better system tho. On my highway assistant on my 2024 X50e i can drive hands free up to 85 mph...Merc still doesn't have hands free at those speeds and their lane steering doesn't work as well at keeping the car in the center of the lane. You also do not have to keep your eyes on the road at all times...It lets you look away for about 20-30 seconds before you get a warning, but i don't mind...It works perfectly at high speeds well the Mercs is useless imo
Is this for real? My Kia k5 does a better job as long as I touch the steering wheel one a minute lol. I ran all the stuff it can’t do and I RAN to the comments lol
The future of what? Of being owned by a public transportation tool? Because this is NOT about owning nor driving a car. This is an awesome feature for busses or trams though.
I feel bad for all 3 people in the car. The reviewer because he has to act blown away by this useless technology, and i got secondhand embarrassment from the two MB reps who have to sit there and act like this is cool. Those stipulations are ridiculous just to try and be "first" 😂
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If your vehicle had Drive Pilot, what would you do with the extra time you don't have to spend driving? Let us know in the comments below!
It wouldn’t give me any extra time. My daily driving will never use this system due to its limitations and even my regular regional trips are not in traffic jams on the freeway…Can’t think of a time when I’ve been more underwhelmed by a new technology
No thanks. Autopilot is perfect for me. I can even use it hands free. I just tap on the stalk when it prompts me to put my hands on the wheel.
First you will need to spend a lot of time finding real world situations where it works.
@@woopsserg I use it on the freeway all the time especially when I'm going on a long trip
@@roryreddog3258 I would use the extra time to buy a BMW that has hands free up to 85 mph on the highway and not 40 lol
They've got to be kidding. This isn't one of those things that's going to look ridiculous in a few years. It's ridiculous now.
software updates
yep u r correct sir
That is hilarious. Literally had to wait for a traffic jam on the freeway before he can use the system. Can’t use it on any other roads…Can’t use it at night…can’t use it when it’s raining… Can’t use it if there’s no cars in front of you and can’t use it over 40 miles an hour. These conditions exist in exactly 0% of my daily driving and almost 0% of my regular regional trips. Therefore, this system is worth exactly zero $ to me
It’s all a work in progress. It may not work for a whole lot of uses but still cool that it’s the first of its kind even in these more limited situations.
Lol, that's why I question when he said, "1st to level 1 and 2. " Lol. Tesla does way more, way better with less sensors. Crazy. It's useless now but I'm sure it'll get better.
@@gmarshnyc Tesla may have done more and done it better but I think the claim for being first is correct (at least from what I could find for level 1 via Google and Wikipedia).
Difference is, this system is 100% safe unlike other brands. MB will even accept liability for when the system is active. Get any other manufacturer to put their money where their mouth is like that.
@@nwbassonAny technology is 'safe' at safe speeds. Maybe level 4 will only work at 10 mph😅. The point is to release the technology when it's OK to fully integrate with our daily driving habits.
soooo...still useless. could have said that right at the start.
Most people don't understand that this system is offered in addition to the normal Level 2 system, which Mercedes of course also offers, without the strict limitations. These strict limitations are necessary because it must be guaranteed that malfunctions are statistically almost impossible. It just shows how difficult it is to make a system so reliable that one is also prepared to accept liability for it. This also includes covering scenarios that are extremely rare, e.g. a chain of errors with sensor failure, etc.
All it takes is one scenario where the manufacturer cannot guarantee that the system will respond correctly to drop down to Level 2. The system would also probably work in rain and at night or at higher speeds, most of the time, just like their Level 2 system, but 99.9% is just not enough if you are responsible, it has to be 99.9999%.
All the comparisons with other manufacturers, whose systems can supposedly do everything, are simply wrong, because they can't guarantee anything, not even at low speeds. And this subtle difference is actually quite a big one.
Bu then, what's the point in using this joke system over basic adaptive cruise control? If it can disengage at any moment if one of those 50 requirements are not met, then you still have to be ready to take over at any moment. So what's the point?
@@Zripas No the system can't disengage at any moment, that's the point and difference compared to other systems, which in the worst case, do not even recognize that there is a problem or just shut down immediately, whether you are ready or not.
As long as the L3 system is active, you can read a book or watch a video. Then Mercedes is liable and responsible, not you. If the conditions are no longer met, then the driver has at least 10sec to take over, the system doesn't just shut down.
Mercedes must guarantee that every situation, no matter how unlikely, is reliably detected. Imagine someone suddenly standing in front of the car in a traffic jam, for whatever reason. Now it may be that a level 2 system reliably detects and brakes thousands of times, but the one time the sun is blinding or a sensor is disturbed and the system would simply run over him. Just one example of countless that are conceivable and must be taken into account. The level 3 system must guarantee that this is practically impossible, for which it has various sensors and redundancies. If it happens anyway, it's Mercedes' fault, if you blindly rely on a level 2 system and run someone over, it's your fault and responsibility.
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It can disengage... it will warn you few seconds before, you you will have to take over because it will disengage. Just like Tesla FSD does, just like any autonomous feature, it will warn you about iminent disangament and you have to take over as soon as possible. Difference with something like Tesla system is that it will actually try to pull over to the side of the read if you fail to engage with that system, while this mercedes joke system will simply stop you in the middle of the road...
I can only imagine how this joke system would attempt to handle accident or any unusual situation... Tho it does only work under 40m/h, on highway, during day time, no rain or snow or falling leaves, not in a tunnel, with car in front... At this point Mercedes will come out with 1m/h Level 5 autonomous car and call a day... it's a joke system... They just wanted that "We did it first" badge they could claim to have... Nothing more.
"The level 3 system must guarantee that this is practically impossible"
But its not... There are no such requirements for any system to be labeled as level 3... You only need autonomous car, aka car which can control steering, acceleration, braking, lane keeping, avoid collisions in front. Basically that's it... Same thing as any adaptive cruise control does, difference is that in this case you have car manufacturer who takes liability for any damages if something goes wrong, this is why it has like 50 different limitations put on it... Because its a bad system and no one should trust it, because manufacturer doesn't trust it...
Mercedes joke system is just that, a joke, call it level 5 if you wish, it's still a joke.
@@lubder The problem is their level 2 is inferior to BMW's level 2. My X5 can drive hands free already on the highway up to 85 mph...Most people use these systems for the highway. Mercedes is trying to claim a "level 3" and they can't even get a hands free level 2 yet...It's a gimmick...
The limitations truly make this system useless. The average consumer would be totally frustrated with it.
This thing is sooooo restrictive lmao how is it any different from standard lane keep assist without the nags?
I also love how in one shot there’s a motorcycle splitting lanes and he says the car reacts to it, except it doesn’t move over until the motorcycle has already passed. Absolutely hilarious.
😂 this ain't more like clickbait than anything.
It only works in traffic. It only works when there is a vehicle in front of you. It only works during the day. In other words, it is completely useless. GM's SuperCruise is significantly more useful.
your comment did not age very well.
I think you misunderstood. You can engage the system just like a level 1 or level 2, but they were looking for traffic so they can show the features better. 😂😂😂😂 how can you show the features when there is no traffic? Plus clearly in the video he was engaged in self driving mode out of when they were enroute.
@@DedesFewscres Yes but Merc still doesn't have hands free for the highway at high speeds like BMW even on their level 1 and 2...
I agree it's a joke
This is the FIRST in the automotive industry. It has these limitations since its NEW. It's a option if you want it or not. These limitations will be lessened when the programme is more ideal and reasonable to do so.
Apparently the most advanced self-driving vehicles cramps when it sees something other than a highway.
It’s amazing not a single L3 owner has posted a video! They must be all embarrassed about there purchase 😂😂😂😂😂
I drive about 80% of the time with Tesla's Autopilot. Only on curvy roads @ higher speeds and in tight spaces inside cities and villages i drive manually.
We are not allowed to drive faster than 130 km/h. The germans need a system that works up to 450 km/h. At least!
I don't have to "ok" anything. I just activate it and deactivate it when i'm finished. And i check my surroundings, other drvers who are often distracted by "something".
It just works.
Why can the others not deliver the same quality software?
This is so useless. You can't even use that in the evening traffic when you are most tired...from work
Road trip
@@JAMESBE_productionseven for road trip you still need a friend to drive slow 15-40mph in front of your car so drive pilot will work. If you watched the video, in one instance, the car in front drove too fast, so the system asked for the driver to take over😂 so retarded.
@@JAMESBE_productionsroad trip at 40mph???
Ladies and gentlemen, level 3 driving.... But it only works when hell freezes over....got it
I use the level 2 on the wife’s car alot and it’s sooooooo nice to be able to take the hand off for a while
One frustrating aspect of these systems is the delay in response during "stop and go" situations, like in traffic. When the car ahead moves, the autopilot in your vehicle often has a noticeable delay before it starts moving. This can be annoying to drivers behind you due to the sluggish reaction in keeping pace with the car in front.
This is 10% better than the system that makes one railway wagon follow the next one. Great job Mercedes.
Wow I don't think you guys understand how pathetic this looks compared to autopilot
This should have a category all to it self , with all its limitations.
Could you do a test drive with Tesla FSD and do a good comparison? This Drive Pilot looks like an advanced lane keeping system... :( Would it not be a better solution to move off the road to the side and come to a complete stop, instead of doing that in the middle of the road??
The Tesla system is still a level 2 system i.e. it needs confirmed human watch and it doesn't take liability (otherwise Tesla would be even more fucked for how many accidents happen under their system). This system is no different then Tesla in it's functionaity, except that to use in the dark or on surface streets, you would only use the level 2 system in the MB.
@@benjaminkohl342 só the level 2 system from MB would drive you from a to b at higher speeds, without the need for a car in front? Would that take care of highway exits, overtaking automatically and all the other things the Tesla FDS seems to be doing pretty well?
@@benjaminkohl342 Tesla's Full Self-Driving (FSD) functions well at high speeds and can handle almost all traffic situations. Operating lower than 40 miles per hour is approximately 64km/h in good weather conditions and following a car in the same lane is no issue for the FSD system. The only reason drivers are legally required to be ready to take over within one second and to remain attentive at all times is due to regulatory constraints. Tesla has not chosen to invest the time to apply for their system to be categorized as Level 3 autonomous driving. While Tesla's customers may not be interested in a system that only functions in limited situations, I also get nervous when a Mercedes is tailgating me and not honking even when I'm driving under 40 miles per hour.
Duno why i need to keep explaining this, but here we go again.
If you want any decent comparison here then you will have to do it by by comparing this joke system with Tesla autopilot or enhanced autopilot system which are made to be used on highways, just like this joke system is, that would be correct comparison. While FSD is made to be used for any type of road and anywhere, so that one isn't even comparable with this joke system.
@@Zripas If one were to make a comparison, Waymo and Cruise are the key players operating Level 4 autonomous vehicles, and they do so even during nighttime in California San Francisco. In any case, comparing them is like comparing apples to pears. Only when both systems reach Level 5 autonomy can they truly be compared against each other.
This is what they consider level 3? This is a complete joke. FSD will drive me 60 miles a day from unmarked country lanes, through highways and to a downtown location to the parking lot with zero interventions (excluding parking lots).
I don’t like the thought process of making the car stop in its lane if a driver doesn’t respond within a certain amount of time.
They should program the vehicle to move to the shoulder and stop.
Then the car can send out an OnStar type of alert to MB whatever or the relevant state troopers/highway patrol.
Stopping on a highway in a lane is very very dangerous for everyone else. Especially if the vehicle stops right after a crest or bend in the road.
Thais Software is embarrassing😂😂 take a look at Tesla how full self driving really works 🙄 shame on you Mercedes
S500 or s580??
This technology is exciting. Can't wait for a few years as things progress and they get less expensive
Level 3 or not, this system from MB seems to be much less capable than the Supercruise and the Bluecruise despite these being a Level 2 system.
I feel this isn’t better than GM supercruise
This is embarrassing Edmunds and Mercedes. For Drive Pilot to work, you can only drive on a highway with traffic, you cannot drive beyond 40 mph, the road must be clearly marked, the weather must be perfect, and it only works in daylight. TESLA FSD 12.3.4 which have NONE of these ridiculous these conditions. You can drive it anywhere (highway, local, and backroad), anytime, in any conditions. All Testa vehicles 2017 and present can do this pretty flawlessly and you can purchase the Model Y with FSD included (3 month free trail, $99/month or $8K outright purchase) for less than $40K brand new!
i think the dude in the rear was asleep the whole time
Most of you don’t understand what level 3 means, this car still can drive itself and do all the other things, level three means that you don’t have to really pay attention at all. Level 2 will change lanes and everything else and this car has that.
You still have to pay attention though this so called level 3 is not perfect we will see alot more accidents if benz can sell this crap.
I am not sure how the Mercedes has the gaul to advertise something half baked like this as a “first” of anything.
Sounds like a joke, so many requirements just to get the thing to work. First to level 1, 2 & 3 are you kidding. Maybe you need to watch some FSD Tesla videos.
Some level 2's do the same thing nothing new here in fact they work at night and rain. This lane assist and adaptive cruise are stitched together I think wrong to label them by Mercedes or too early to showcase the project.
What a garbage and worthless system. The reps from Mercedes are just there at seat fillers, the guy in the back seems like he's asleep. Tells you how much they think their own system is worth. We don't need something that will only work in 2.3% of traffic scenarios while cost $2500 a year.
Wait, that's it? r/RealTesla , I thought you guys said this is better than Tesla FSD?
So, MB beats Tesla to level 3? Hmm. Testing in Germany is not thesame as testing in the U.S. So, I'm not sold on level 3. Maybe this more like Level 2.5. The terms of use is not appealing. Sorry. Can't be used at hwy speeds in conjunction to cruise control?!. GM's supercruise still sounds more appealing. Tensions seems to be high in the cabin based on the video.😅. I won't option my MB with this system at this phase.
Lot of slow driving there in the fast lane.
People are mocking this because it doesn't match their driving situation, but i can say that driving in LA or Bay Area traffic, where this is available, is a huge benefit. You experience sub-40mph traffic on a daily basis. And clearly, this will only get better with time.
Regardless, this system is infinitely better than anything Tesla or others could offer. I had FSD, and it was incredibly good and dangerously bad at the same time. FSD owners will highlight how great the system is while ignoring the dozens of times it decided to slam on the brakes or steer them towards an onramp at 70 mph.
The problem is that it is not really necessary with the limitations it made an already over priced car way over priced these won't sell.
only works when.... only works when... we will look back at this in 10 years and laugh.
I'm laughing now...
That level 3 system seems like a joke.
Bei diesem Video sieht man wieder einmal: Deutsche Autobauer wurden abgehangen und holen den Vorsprung anderer Automobilhersteller nicht mehr ein. Dieser Mercedes ist einfach eine farce...
Better off getting the Acura tlx sh awd!!!
What a joke! Tesla FSD is literally light-years ahead.
“Conditional autonomous driving system”
And the condition limitations are a joke.
SAE certificate means absolutely nothing too by the way. They are not a governance body. It’s nothing more than a piece of paper.
40mph and under with a vehicle in front of you, good weather and a handful of freeways in CA and NV
You have to hunt for traffic for it to be turned on. What a joke. And it screams at you to take over.
Lmfao they call this level 3....but refuse to let tesla use FSD as level 3 even though tesla's FSD is decades beyond this system. this is basically a "theres a car in front of us, lets just tail it" its not even close to being anywhere near level 3. I had FSD drive me 100 miles at night, in the rain with no cars around. every single condition this system cannot do.
This is worthless. Nothing special about this considering what FSD already does. Teslas full self driving is way ahead of this.
With all this restrictions - this system is a joke... even unperfect Tesla Auto pilot (not talking about FSD) is more usable... because it works at highway speeds and in the night...
This is proof that Elon is right. You only need cameras and the more sensors you have, the greater the disruption can be with the system over analyzing. This is scary to me. You have to pay more attention than any other system as these required conditions can change so quickly!
This is just redicilous. Not impressed.
Any idea when Mercedes might add radar sensors to help the self driving Drive Pilot??
Hopefully Mercedes licenses Tesla's FSD.
LMAO, this requires subscription of $2500 a year!
They’re the first to L3? Hasn’t FSD been L3 for a while?
FSD isn’t a true SAE level 3
agreed! sound like Benz dumped down the requirements for what a level 3 system really is. Even in the limitations it has - use in traffic - i bet it wont doge road debris. Lets say it can, you can’t call it level 3 with so many “it only works…” 🤣
No, never was
@@ALMX5DPneither is just what I watched in this video lol 😂
Difference between L2 and L3 systems is basically who is liable for the damages if accident happens. Tesla auto pilot or enhanced auto pilot performs miles better than this joke Mercedes system, but Tesla simply doesn't want to deal with those possible lawsuits so its being labeled as L2. Mercedes just tries to be the "first" with L3 by paying out few millions in damage, which is cheaper than actually investing in advertisement.
TESLA IS KING 🤴🏼 THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE 😂
This is the first phase , it will move on to high speed and poor weather functions in a few years .
I think the system is capable of that now , but start gently, that's the key
The system is useless if you can't sleep while driving😅
It’s just embarrassing reading all the comments. Levels are regulations of liability, nothing more. And regarding that, it only makes sense to restrict the usage even if the system could handle all other scenarios. You have to compare MB level 2 to other systems and not level 3. Otherwise, you would be comparing apples to oranges.
Womp womp
Benz over hyped that is the issue.
Should have called it a L5. On condition that it must be stationary. What a joke Mercedes lol
BARELY Level 3.
Tesla FSD makes this thing look like an amateur.
What a joke of ADAS.
May cut down on traffic fatalities
It won't it will stop in the middle of roads which will increase accidents this whole benz thing is pathetic they made autopilot this is not level 3.
Teslas level 2 already does more than this level 3🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not impressed!
garbage compared to tesla still :(
Yeah Tesla is killing this as far as autonomy is concerned…. However Mercedes is still king of luxury and comfort
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Holy shit this thing is bad, the Tesla AP works better than that in Europe.
True Autonomous won’t arrive in over 100 years lol 😂😂
2500.00 dollars a year, for this shit! Mercedes shame on you! Must be a joke, who can take this serious.
so dumb... don't buy a car if you don't want to actually drive... just Uber everywhere
Only a matter of time before level 3 expands to more scenarios then all scenarios.
So, to summarize, Mercedes' Drive Pilot works only when the road conditions are perfect and you're moving at the pace of a turtle. Mercedes should be embarrassed.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 They should hide their head in shame 😅😅😅
And to summarize, after 4 years in beta Tesla FSD still cannot read a road sign (DO NOT ENTER) , it still struggles to escape from a parking lot or parking structure, and FSD cannot react to Police or Ambulances with sirens on. FSD also routinely ignores speed bumps, and cannot see potholes or *broken* *glass* in the road. what a joke
Any high school kid is a much better driver than FSD.
It's not autonomous if it requires a car in front of it to function. Ill stick to v12 FSD
Tesla's FSD accelerates up to and drives at 85 mph, works great with no traffic, works great at night, works great in the rain, works great on roads without clear lane lines, including dirt roads.
😂 I literally laughed when I watched this clip. Mercedes owners are proud of this “level 3”
Tesla is leve 2, and is full of investigation for problems and accidents and is not able to be used without a continuis control of human, and is not programmed for easy and an expected event (like a truck with traffic lights on top) that brings the car compeltely in tilt. So that is not autopilot, not a real one. Then you can push the limits of the technology but in this way you are risking you life and the one of everyone else. Plus the problem are the words of the boss that says tha the autopilot is already there, but is not, at least not in proportion with his words
Better to be safe and cautious than take lives and injure people and be sorry later. A good PR does not necessarily mean a good reliable system. A system with no incidents is a better system than any FSD or whatever.
@@6JLFilm9 What are you talking about? the FSD does all that and more. the only issue is that they wont designate FSD to level 3. not that it's not level 3.
Tesla's FSD is a simpleton Level 2 assistant that requires *100* *percent* human supervision at all times. To call it Self Driving is deceptive and laughable.
What a joke. You are getting scammed
The technicalities on laying claim for lvl 1,2,3 are pretty irrelevant to me. The use cases in my opinion is what determines the usability, and this my friend feels far off from lvl3. Just cause you squeeze in 10 secs where you can actually watch youtube cause you're in traffic, driving below 40mph, its sunny, and its during the day grants you a lvl3 title, I'm sorry, I'll stick with FSD that drives highway and city streets, anytime of the day, most weather conditions, much higher speeds albeit with the frequent nags.
To think i get all that limitation mercedes offers for just $2500 annually..... thanks, but no thanks.
The real utility here is being able to play shuffle puck (albeit for 2.5K a year and under 40 mph in heavy traffic)!
This feels years behind a Tesla
This was Tesla back in 2013.
@@greatleader4841 right lol
3:50 First the software (middle screen and right) look like it was done in 2003. Second you are blocking the traffic! That's about as unimpressive as it gets. It's worse than unimpressive
No comparison to Tesla at the moment, sorry.
let me see you cant drive in rain or at night or over 40 mph and this is lvl3 what a joke
Mercedes just invented the equivalent of a solar powered flashlight. Basically as long as you have car in front of you to lead you your Drive pilot will work (in addition to maintaining 15-40mph speed, day time, no rain)😂 I am surprised the person who proposed this in Mercedes headquarter didnt get fired for its ridiculousness 😮
How are people so unaware in these comments? THIS IS A HUGE FIRST REVEAL IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. It has these limitations since its NEW. It's a option if you want it or not. These limitations will be lessened when the programme is more ideal and reasonable to do so.
I had to check when thus video was released because it's soooooo far behind tesla it's not even funny. What an absolute joke. Can't use at night rain 40+mph blah blah. I can hear elon laughing from here!
In this sense, the basic 2-level automatic control works better. One standard trip I have is approx. 500 kilometers. At level 2, the car steers, adjusts the speed and keeps the distance constant for more than 90% of the driving distance. There is so little other traffic in many places in Finland that Mercedes' level 3 system would actually be a deterioration of the current situation.
Yes I took a level 2 c300 on a 3000 mile trip and used it 75% of the time and was so nice
I agree. I don't see why I would give up my current system for this. It's a downgrade.
@@845amg I am pretty sure it still has all the levl 2.5 Stuff on board that lets you cruise around how you describe it.
Just if you want to activate level 3 you need to be in the conditions he describes. The car us still able to drive with level 2/2.5 if you prefer that.
The difference here is that level 2.5 needs you to be aware of your surroundings all the time and f you crash it is your fault.
In level 3 mode you do not need to be aware and if the car crashes Mercedes will pay the bill.
Hahahaha OMG, This is the worst auto pilot system I have ever heard of. I thought from the “can’t do” list that this is some kind of internet joke! Ba-Jesus, this joke is real!
I didn't think Edmunds was biased until now. How do you do a review like this and not mention how it compares to Tesla...
Because Tesla doesn’t pay them advertising dollars.
Becaue Tesla has no L3 self driving to compare to. Mercedes has L2 and L3, you can use wichever you want. Tesla only has L2.
Comparing L2 Mercedes self driving to L2 Tesla self driving would make sense and be fair.
Plus, Tesla's L2 was way worse when it was first released, L3 obviously will be the same.
@@OnePieceSS23so you are just going to say how bad Tesla was in the beginning, but not mention how advanced the FSD is today? It's far superior to this drive pilot junk
This is what happens when your obsessed with being first to market to beat Tesla. You make stupid releases.
Isn’t this just like BMW’s Traffic Jam Assist, you can take your hands off on that system too.
you have to keep your eyes on the road at all times with traffic jam assist
@@edmundscarsWhy wouldn't you want to, you're DRIVING A CAR?!
@@unowen-nh9ov while SAE level systems are driver assistant systems, Mercedes Drive Pilot is a level 3 system, meaning the car is taking over. Under certain conditions, you are in fact driven: hands off, mind off.
@@edmundscars BMW has a better system tho. On my highway assistant on my 2024 X50e i can drive hands free up to 85 mph...Merc still doesn't have hands free at those speeds and their lane steering doesn't work as well at keeping the car in the center of the lane. You also do not have to keep your eyes on the road at all times...It lets you look away for about 20-30 seconds before you get a warning, but i don't mind...It works perfectly at high speeds well the Mercs is useless imo
Is this for real? My Kia k5 does a better job as long as I touch the steering wheel one a minute lol. I ran all the stuff it can’t do and I RAN to the comments lol
Comma Openpilot and Tesla do a lot more than this despite being so 'high-tech'
The future of what? Of being owned by a public transportation tool? Because this is NOT about owning nor driving a car. This is an awesome feature for busses or trams though.
Agreed this car will most likely not sell well.
I feel bad for all 3 people in the car. The reviewer because he has to act blown away by this useless technology, and i got secondhand embarrassment from the two MB reps who have to sit there and act like this is cool. Those stipulations are ridiculous just to try and be "first" 😂
Pretty useless in my opinion if it has all those negatives
Cant touch Tesla after you know what all the operating conditions are...LOL
From the sound and look of it, GMs super cruise is better.
Doesn't work on the Südautobahn where i use my Tesla's Autopilot mostly. That one works.
Supercruise is utter shit! Only works on like 5% of the roadways.
After watching this.. am going to buy more tesla stock 😂
I stopped soon he said doesn’t work at night.
This level 3 system is a pure joke in comparison to my level 2 Tesla system 😂
Lmfao, this is a joke.