DoSe oF MoE Happy to help. Haha in all seriousness though, if I really understood how much I’d spend on maintenance & the cost of ownership when I bought it, I probably wouldn’t have wanted it bad enough to pull the trigger. 😅
Man, I just purchased a 2004 Cayenne Turbo for $4300. I had to place rotors, brakes, and driveline for $2500.00. The radio is not working- probably Bose amp and I need tires. I also need oil change. I put $40.00 in gas. 138,000 miles on the vehicle. Your video is excellent and I’m done here, I can’t spend that kind of money. $6800.00 it is going up for sale.. I’ll take the first $6000.00 and accept the $800.00 loss as my lesson. Please let me sale. Thank you for the video. It is an A+ video. Your a real solid dude. Thanks man. Peace and Blessings
I've driven reliable front wheel drive cars for cheap ...and I've driven pain-in-the-butt German cars with higher running cost. At the end of the day, though... nobody scours the classifieds for weeks looking for the right Hyundai.
Some say it makes more sense to just lease a car think about the numbers. To rent (lease) a car for three years you usually put about $3,000 to $5,000 down (plus tax). Then for three years you pay $350-$500. After that--which comes to around $16,000 to $23,000. Gone. You must give the car back. Yes, you drove a nice new car and had no repairs but a person who owned a used Porsche for three years is probably not going to pay 15-20 grand on repairs. I bought a used Cayenne and figure that if the repairs cost $10,000 over eight years or so, that's still better than leasing or getting hit by new car depreciation. So far, it's been about three years and I haven't an unscheduled repair yet. Fingers crossed. Some people just feel better paying thousands up front rather than have that anxiety of unscheduled repairs. And I do understand that. I know a woman who bought a late model Lexus because they are so reliable (and they are) but she still paid thousands extra for an after market warranty. That car never broke down and she never needed it, of course, but she said she slept better at night knowing she was covered. To each their own.
Porsche Cayenne are great vehicles! If you can do the majority of the work yourself, you can save a boatload of money. There are so many you tube videos for every repair for 2003-2010 Cayennes.
Indeed they are! I have enjoyed mine. And you're right, that's a neat thing about RUclips... There's a DIY for just about everything, and forum posts whenever there's a lack of videos. 👍
I thank for the info and keeping it real about the cost. Fairly typical for Porsche; the brake cost hasn't kicked in yet, the need to be replaced after 20-25k miles. Some dealerships charge up 10k for the high performance replacement on the GTS, however that shop you go to might be able to do it for less. If you did your own oil changes you could cut that expense down to $55-60. If the purchase price is low enough they are worth it, however with miles they'd be better of as a weekend car.
Thank you for the input! And I did have to address the brakes on the more recent update video I did. I'm happy to report that my cost for that was nowhere near the figure you mentioned... Less than $1,000 for new rotors and pads installed all around, between parts and labor. :) But yeah cost of ownership would have definitely been less as a weekend car vs daily. Been a fun experience to drive it nonetheless though.
Hmm V6! That’s an oil burner VW engine. My S V8 barely uses a drop. My Cayenne S is just touching 19 years old now and has excellent reliability. This is also a really easy vehicle to service. You can cut service costs in half and use better parts/fluids and a better job. #diy
You could do 90% of the stuff i saw listed that youve had done. If you work on em yourself, its not that bad. But i guess thats the difference between an Aggie and a Red Raider ;)
I'm a product of the UT school system actually. 😄 But I can definitely do my own work... I choose not to. Been there, done that. Wrenching isn't my thing but real estate is. 🙂
I realize this is 3 years old lol but I don't really think it's terrible when you take a look at the mileage used. 40k for a lot of people is 3.5-4 years
I feel your pain! I probably wouldn't have bought it if I really understood that's what I was signing up for. As some have suggested though, it's not as high of a cost if you can do your own labor. That or don't drive it as often as I drove mine... Highest monthly cost was the maintenance but I think it's in large part because I drove it everywhere and didn't hold back on putting miles on it.
24 years of owning 3 ageing Toyotas: Oil change every few years when I get around to it. Clicking in the splines; which righted itself after ignoring it for a few months. $80 for a broken speedo cable; self-installed in 5 minutes. $0 for a new water pump; covered by extended Toyota warrantee on a 12-year-old-car. $20 in blown headlight bulbs. I’d love a Porsche (Macan, in my case), but I just have too much self-respect to put myself through the hassle. Think how much would have gone wrong over 24 years... (shudder)
Not much was for non-routine maintenance considering you drove the crap out of an older german car My 2017 WRX with 70k miles cost me way more than that in unexpected maintenance over the last 2 years with only about 5k miles per year the last 3 years.
you're not still running it eh? if not when did you stop? i just grabbed a 2006 cayenne S for $8200 cad a few weks ago.. solid 8 /10 al around .. 190km.. i'm no stranger to german cars.. have a few.. some for 10+ years but i bought this one on a bit of a whim and ditching the wifes 2014 tiguan with 150km .. lol.. i do question if its the right move.. but so far the thing has really impressed me, never had anything porsche before. i feel like the tiguan's value will drop like a rock soon and as long as this thing is running it's not going to get much less than 8200 cad (maybe $5500 usd) plus the tiguan is like driving a shopping cart heh,
I sold mine about a year ago. Had it for 2 years, bought with 123k miles and sold with 163k. Still running just as great at the time of sale as when I bought it. Likely won't be my last Cayenne. Right now I'm daily driving my 2008 Corvette Z06... But I'm not driving nearly as much now as I was then. And I agree with your assessment in terms of the value. These V8 Cayennes are a lot of value for the money. Hope you enjoy yours!
@@TexasRealEstate nice daily! i'd love to grab a c6 z06 someday.. not too interested in american cars but for that i will make an exception. i daily an 08 m5 6 speed in the summer for the last 5 years.. but i don't drive much either anymore.. yeah from what i've seen so far of the cayenne makes me want a real one.. especially if it holds its own in the "family suv" spot of our lineup as the wifes daily!
@@Joe-qu9se Would make for an awesome family SUV! M5's are fun cars to drive as well, they've got some serious get up and go when you put the pedal down!! 👍
i HAVE A 2004 CAYENNE S BOUGHT WITH 222,000 MILES ON IT TWO DAYS AFTER BUYING IT MY BATTERY WAS BAD YES UNDER NTHE DRIVERS SEAT 271 DOLLARS BUT WHAT i CANT GET AN ANSWER TO IS WHY DO I HAVE ANOTHER IDENTICAL BATTERY UNDER THE REAR FLOOR WHERE A SPARE TIRE SHOULD BE UNDERNEATH A STUPID 8 INCH SUBWOOFER THE SIZE OF WHAT THE TIRE SHOULD BE NO ONE CAN TELL ME WHY I HAVE TWO BATTERIES SEEMS OVERKILL TO ME
THANKS, i TAKE IT YOU DO NOT HAVE A SECOND BATTERY EITHER. IT IS VERY WIERD SINCE I DONT HAVE THE AIR RIDE SUSPENSION OR ANY OUT OF THE ORDINARY ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND THIS BATTERY WAS PUT THERE BY THE DEALER OR FACTORY AS IT SITS IN A BOX LIKE THE FRONT BATTERY AND HAS THE SAME IDENTICAL COVER OVER THE TOP OF THE BATTERY. THIS IS WIERD BUT THIS IS THE FIRST PORSCHE I HAVE OWNED AND I LOVE THIS CAR!!! IT IS A TOTAL HANDFUL OF STUFF I HAVE NEVER HAD IN A CAR OF COURSE UNTIL I BOUGHT THIS MY NEWEST CAR WAS A 1997 CHEVY LUMINA AND THANK YOU MAM FOR REAR ENDING ME AND TOTALING OUT MY CAR.STATE FARM SAID MY CAR WAS WORTH 2970.OO I ONLY PAID 400 FOR IT AND NOW I DRIVE A PORSCHE! IT IS IN AWESOME SHAPE WAS OBVIOUSLLY CARED FOR LOVINGLY IT HAS TO BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED AT 68 I DESERVE A RIDE THAT HAS CLASS! THANKS FOR GETTING BACK TO ME AGAIN I LOVE MY CAYENNE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.@@TexasRealEstate
I have a 2018 with 18900 miles on it And Porsche just called me and said that my 20,000 mi maintenance is coming up It's going to be $1,300, They said oil change, filters, brake fluid flush and oh yeah new windshield wipers...$1300🤔.. I don't know I'm going to look into this because that sounds a little crazy but I'll pay it if I have to but I don't know if that's right..
That does sound high... Maybe that's just what it costs through Porsche. If you have any independents that work on Porsche's in your area, you could call around to see what the same service would run with them. Most of the service needs I've had come about on mine would have ran more $ through the dealer. If it were warranty work, I wouldn't hesitate to go through the dealer and have them charge whatever they want but if I'm paying, I'll go to the most reasonably priced technician / shop that knows the cars and has a good reputation.
@@TexasRealEstate yeah the car has a warranty but this service they said doesn't qualify under the warranty that's just regular maintenance, which I thought I paid for when I got the truck I guess I was wrong, and the first service was free now I have to pay, but yeah I completely agree that's what I'm doing now is calling around. Thx
This is a car he started at 123,000 miles. You have some pretty heavy maintenance that you kind of need done, and you can probably beat that oil change price. My Bimmer gauge rolled over the average fuel economy. It wouldn’t track back the entire life of the car. One thing I will say is that my experience with the BMW dealership was WORLDS better than Dodge, Ford, Mazda, GM etc. For example, does this car come with 2 keys? Ford “you can order one for $400.” BMW “if not, I will order one for you - no charge of course” Or “this is covered under warranty, right?” Dodge: “The PART is covered, but it will be three days so order your own rental car. Also, that doesn’t include the $250 deductible, shop rags, disposal fees, and any other charges we can make up. BMW: “Yes, I can have a complimentary loaner car (brand new 5 series) ready later this morning.” Total cost was swapping keys back and forth. Oh AND the BMW dealership would text me daily on the status of my car. I told my friends after owning that 340, I realized I couldn’t afford to drive another Charger. Your mileage may vary, but I really hate getting nickeled and dimed for every little thing like they do at more ‘affordable’ dealerships. The cost of a 3 year old 340 with M performance was comparable to a Charger R/T that had twice as many miles. As with anything, some cars need more attention than others.
I had a 04 STI tuned to 500hp at one point. Amazing cars for the money, especially when you up the power like that. Night and day difference between how that car drives and feels vs the Cayenne GTS. It just depends on what you want from the experience, I opted for the experience the Cayenne had to offer for daily purposes. Already had my C6 Z06 for speed and fun when I bought it. 🙂
Great summary. You hit the nail on the head. It can be a reliable SUV with basic and proper maintenance which is of course expensive due to Porsche being a luxury brand, but the driving characteristics of this SUV are superior. Its a true SUV that can go off-road and it drives better than some sports cars.
Well, you bought it because it’s a Porsche but people don’t realize is that all vehicles out there needs to be maintained and it costs $$$ but the joy of driving a Porsche is unbelievably awesome!
To be fair, Toyotas don't need much maintenance. I had clicking splines, which righted themselves after ignoring them for a few months. I’ve had zero oil on the dipstick on more than one occasion, but the car kept going for a decade after topping up. My first Toyota, I only serviced every 3 or 4 years, and I thrashed the crap out of it (young and immature). In 24 years, 3 ageing Toyotas, I’ve had one broken speedo cable, and one water pump replaced under extended warrantee (on a 12-year-old car). Yes, I should have maintained a lot better than I did, but from my experience, they don’t NEED it.
Im a verry amateur mechanic but the coolant pipe, therm., etc. was a pretty easy repair (despite the mechanics making it sound like it was an engine tear down). Took me about 6 hours and cost around 700 in parts (with a new starter).
I purchased a 2009 S new in 2008. It has about 260000 miles on it now. I have the oil changed every 40000 miles or so. I burn about a quart every 5000 miles. One annoying feature is water building in up in some door panels at times. Had to remove plugs in bottom of door sills. One door has rusted. Otherwise still running stong. Drive shaft went around 170000 miles. I Switched tires to nokian wrg 3 and now wrg 4. Lasted much longer than most other brands plus got about 1.5mpg more which shocked me. Less responsive but softer and better for potholes etc. They have held up well for driving in southern new england.
Oil changed at 40 at miles? My goodness you're entering Citroen 2.2 diesel country there. That's what they recommend. I'm old just couldn't do it. 5k mile changes thank you.
Coming from having owned a BMW... this sounds like a really low maintenance car. Also compared to Audi vehicles this sounds like too good to be true. 👍good job on the buy man
owned 3 bmw's and can confirm that they are probably one of the most expensive to keep in line, been driving a 98 tahoe in the same time frame and cost of maint was virtually nothing aside from consumables. bmw maint -4.5k -5k in 2.5yrs
Roll in there the Mini Cooper too. My current everyday ride. Brought this baby up to 150k miles with only a clutch repair. The problem is just in the USA people charge $$$ to work on my beloved European cars. Looking to buy a used Porsche now, keeping the old mini hoping it’ll become a classic collector one day so I can switch my daily driver car to something as fun as my current vehicule. 🤞🏻
I wouldn't look at this in terms of monthly cost because all of the repairs done and paid for should not be required again--or at least for an extended period. It's more like an up-front fee--aside from oil changes. And of course, a lot of this could be done for a tiny fraction. The first $1,000 bill was mostly labor and could have been done in 2 hours in a garage with basic tools saving well over $600. Its not even "wrenching." The good news is that if you're willing to do a little of your own work, the cost of ownership really doesn't sound that bad.
Thanks for sharing! I don't disagree with anything you're saying. In my experience with the cars I've owned I've noticed that the cost of ownership tends to be pretty consistent over a longer course of time and use. So while the maintenance items will indeed vary from service to service, over time it can be broken down into an average annual cost or as I put it, monthly. Which indeed is realized in sporadic intervals rather than on a monthly basis. And of course those who prefer to do their own labor can save on the labor expense, but there is a tradeoff of time of which has an often unspoken expense. For those who enjoy working on cars or find it as most financially beneficial to do so, I think it's a great thing. 👍
@@TexasRealEstate working in cars can definitely be timely and I totally agree that is an expense! And there are certainly jobs that can be on a level where it makes more sense to pay a shop to do it, but an oil change and many other maintenance type tasks can be done in a couple of hours on a Friday night or early Saturday morning and can save hundreds, if not thousands, over the life of the vehicle. Personally, I like the quiet and the alone time in the garage, not to mention the fact that I cannot stand having to schedule and appointment and then leave my vehicle with someone else I don’t trust lol.
At least I got a brand new Range Rover as a loaner. 😝 But on a more serious note, do you know where the batteries are located in these? Most inconvenient of places lol
@@TexasRealEstate I do, not the only vehicle with very inconvenient battery compartments. Just be glad you didnt have the air ride package that has another battery under the rear seat and tire.
Hmm. Here in Australia that would equate to around $10kAU over 2 years, or just shy of $200 a week. In maintenance. I could almost buy a brand new 918 on finance for that. Certainly it'd get me a new Golf R or a WRX STi. Not that the Cayenne isn't a beautiful car; but I think that's probably a bit much. Just for comparison, my 2000MY Boxster S has cost me $600 in the last year, and that was for a service at Porsche. There is definitely a sense of occasion when you drive a Porsche, even an oldie. But in my humble opinion, given the running costs involved, the Cayenne is a car for mechanics, or at least those with strong mechanical skills.
Valid point, but the Cayenne serves a different purpose than the Boxster for most. I think with Porsche's in general, many owners are willing to deal with the maintenance cost for the driving experience you mention.
If you want to be cost effective you have to learn how to fix things on the series 1 955 series 2 957 yourself. They basically don't break it's the sophisticated electrics you need to learn and understand this is where the common failures are when they age . The car has multiple little modules like little hard drives that control things via the main computer .EG one each for each head light cluster , one for the transfer case , one for the ignition steering lock that aways fails . These fail and basically the car becomes a 2500kg paper weight . All the mechanicals are straight froward and bullet proof German engineering and lots of info how to fix out there . Learn how the vehicle works mechanically and have an understanding of the half a dozen control modules work and you sort of need to learn the clearing of error codes and reseting of these modules if you want to avoid paying someone to scan and diagnose . with these modern cars its very little mechanical and all electrics that will stuff you up . Learn how to clear faults and re program new modules when they fail . You will save thousands . Then it's just the cost of parts . Its the labour thats the problem paying people to work on it can make it not worth it over a longe period of time .
That did include the cost of the battery which was a lions share of the cost if I remember correctly. To each their own, I choose to focus my time and energy on my areas of expertise instead.
@@jayzhang14 move seat forward undo rear battery cover clips. Move seat back and undo seat bolts. Tip seat back undo battery cover bolts and front cover clips and remove battery cover. Remove battery stabilisers. Attach memory keeper to jump start terminals. Detach battery cables and replace. Then do all those steps in reverse to complete. Job takes about 30-45 minutes depending and you may need to cut carpet but that doesn’t show as it’s along carpet creases.
@@eddherring4972 would u consider it is easy comparing other car? I don’t think most people can do it themselves. Of course I know how it works, but I would not do it myself.
I paid $4,500 cash for a 2006 Cayenne S 4.5L with 150,000 miles. It booked at about $9,000. I knew it needed some love. Starter, plugs, oil, re-glue headliner, replace hood struts, and hatch struts, buff out. I paid $1,600 to my mechanic and did the smaller stuff. So....I'm into it for $6,150. It was a government car from Arizona for 130,000 miles and had a great service record. It's a great running car, and is fun to drive. It has 90 more horsepower than my 1991 Corvette had. I've only had it for 8 months, and would be happy to buy it again. If it lasts for another year and a half I'll probably give it to my sister when I move back to Asia. I also have a boring, reliable Kia Sportage.
I just bought one this isnt bad. although its always good to find a good Porsche tech to repair the ridiculously high stuff Im lucky, I have a good tech for my 1986.5 928, he can work on the Cayenne too!
250$ for a scan and module reset - pure theft mate. It shouldn't be more than 50$ at least in Europe you can fix these cars for 1/4 of the US prices...
nothing bitter then a Toyota landcruiser Colorado big & powerful reliable strong, good, a car is not a second marriage we have to remember a car is a horse ,if it to costly we don't use it, otherwise you become the bank, I am so happy to hear your story, about your car
my audi is worse lol. I'm switching to a cheyenne s because of the reliability difference.... those prices aren't bad either! your dealing with a good shop! I've seen bills worse than that on my old Subaru suv!
The vehicle depreciates not the cost of maintenance and repair. If you want to drive a high end European luxury vehicle than those are the prices you have to pay. If the costs scare you buy a Hyundai Tucson....
This seams like alot of routine maintenance like that of any vehicle. Just a bit more to pay a porsche shop. At least hes not showing a bunch of really expensive repairs that are faults in the design. Its a solid car. And not much drives quite as well. Comfortable too. Plus as he said, if you can do it yourself. Tricky in ways but totally doable.... :)
Driving a 2004 Cayenne s with 270,000 Kim’s/170000miles,runs pretty good.but I am getting a whining noise from the driveline on deceleration.other than that the truck runs fine.
I @@TexasRealEstate yup.i had the same suv over 10 years ago, I paid 15 times more for it back then. Loved it so much bought it again last year as a winter beater.i trust this truck in any weather with my life!
If you are capable doing oil, brakes, and minor repairs you can get the cost way down. Obviously that's not for everyone but but I'd never pay 200 for an oil change
Great info! It's videos like these that make me lean toward a used Lexus RX 350. Not as exciting, but for the same price, you can afford a newer model, & Lexus reliability is off the charts.
Glad you found the video helpful! I'd say it depends on what your biggest priorities are. I valued the Porsche driving experience over reliability / cost effectiveness. That being said, I've found Porsches to be incredibly reliable in my experience owning both the Cayenne and a couple others. Typically higher maintenance cost when service is needed but nothing like the experience. I'd probably go with a Lexus or something similar if I wanted something nice and more cost effective.
You've got me considered the Porsche. Most useful stat was $4,300 in repairs after excluding oil and tires ($2,150/yr). We have an '03 Honda Element & an '11 Lexus ES350. They average $1,250/yr each, & that includes keeping ahead of recommended maintenance, like performing a trans fluid flush at 50K miles instead of 100K. Tough decision!
Wait until your hybrid battery dies on your Lexus. My friends just got a $7k repair quote just to change that battery on her Lexus. I’ll go with a base gas option. I wish they made these with manual transmission. I hate automatic so bad.
From the rough numbers, the premium tax (the extra maintenance over the tyres and oil) was only around $200 per month. The remainder $850pm would be similar for any car. Except maybe the fuel but that's true of any thirsty vehicle. $200pm/$2,400pa is not chump-change but, factored into the purchase price, and these are often relatively cheap compared to "sensible competition", it's a worthwhile thing to know. Interesting to know what happens the next 5 years and whether that adds up consistently to be a total of $12K.
True. I more than likely wont own it long enough to find out... I like to switch cars every 2-3 years tops. Already put 40k miles on it which is about as much as I've put on anything so I'm pretty well at the point where I'm ready to move on and get something else. 🙂 I will more than likely do one more cost of ownership update prior though.
2004 Cayenne S V8 purchased used for $15K, seven years ago- w/90K miles now has 153K miles. Now dropped approximately 26K in dealer OEM maintenance over seven years. Didn't drive it in 2021 or 2020 since working from home during COVID. Currently, sitting at $490/month not including fuel, ins., taxes. Has survived three major hail storms. Absolute pile of garbage, but I is my favorite vehicle ever.
bro you could cut this amount by 70% if you just did all of this work yourself i own a 2008 cayenne and i do all the work on all my cars my self there is so much information on the internet where you can learn how to do everything!! its not that hard!!
No, its indeed not worth it... simple fact its 13 years old, high mileage with inherited issues. Basically bought a money pit. I guess you have to ask yourself.. do I care about money? if you don't more than than that car.. good choice. money just provides choices but it stocks when common sense is out of stock.
Keep in mind that is all service work vs doing your own maintenance which adds up quickly. Granted the GTS is a beast and comes with the typical Euro Tax for maintenance.
That is true. DIYers will definitely make out ahead on the financial cost. And that brings up one other thing I meant to note, those are independent prices vs dealer. I believe the bill would be higher if done through the dealer.
@@TexasRealEstate Absolutely! Most of the maintenance items I think are priced fairly from the shop. You have a lot of miles for the timespan which makes the ownership cost look a bit higher IMO. No argument on $200 per oil change either as it takes an hour and ~$80 in supplies even with mail order parts and wallyworld M1 jugs.
@@TheTrothKeeper Yup, that's exactly right. It's definitely not the most practical daily driver from a cost perspective, but I will say it is the most comfortable daily I've ever had lol
Everyone would be surprised it they calculated their costs of ownership the way you did..I thought my Lexus was cost efficient, but calculating it up my monthly daily driving cost was about half of yours and you put on way more miles...cool perspective.
@@twotime88 Thank you! And no doubt. That's what's neat about Lexus though, you get a luxury experience without the German level maintenance cost. I love driving the Porsche daily it's a real nice driving experience but I wouldn't mind have the extra money available in my bank account instead at this point. So hopefully sharing more of my car experiences here will make the expense more worthwhile.
IF You still have warranty remaining, you are stuck on maintenance...has to be done by a Porsche shop. Use an indie , have a warranty issue and they will deny that warranty repair. Porsche has us by the balls on service. I'm on my 4th one now. I think the quality was better than it is now a few decades back. much of the design of small parts and some major parts seem to be one of "planned obsolescence". Using too many plastic parts that harden and fail over time and being exposed to engine heat. Aluminum fasteners another silly feature.
Yup... Warranty wasn't an issue for me but maintenance cost is still high but I do drive a lot. I think Porsche is better about the planned obsolescence than many of their contemporaries in the automotive world but there's definitely still components that will fail in time - due to their design. But I still believe Porsches are somewhat more reliable long term than the alternatives - I think the quality is higher.
$6500 for 2 years of driving, 35k miles on such a high mileage luxury SUV is way less than I expected. I plan on buying one with approx 45-50k miles and this definitely convinced me to get one!
hi, thanks for the video i just bought a 2008 porsh cayenne. would you please tell me please how much oil sould i put in the engine? i see you put on pig gallon. is is one or 2 gallons?
Sounds like yours didn't come with an owners manual. If that's the case, this should help you with this question and more you'll have in the future: www.porsche.com/china/en/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/manuals-cayenne/
$12,600/year to drive around in that jalopy is pretty crazy. It's not even worth that much now is it? I would guess only $10-15k with >100k miles. Buy a better car.
one needs to be a complete rip off to pay that muck money for that labor while most of it is pretty much DIY (except computer calibration and tier replacement/balancing)
To each their own. I'm not a DIYer, my time is more highly valued in other places than working on vehicles. I'm happy with the value and service I received for the price.
Shit man 400 just for your battery 😅 do it yourself bud it’s an easy job kunt unbolt the seat and tilt it back fold carpet un clip battery box and change ya battery. Make sure to hook up the jump ports under the hood to a 12volt power while u do it and u won’t have to reset everything afterwards 👍
Looking back, it's crazy but I found out that it's even more in the newer ones! I have a 2014 Turbo S now... Luckily the battery was replaced right before I purchased. The cost on those makes the $400 seem like a bargain 😅
Der V8 Motor ist im Unterhalt auch teuer, etwas günstiger ist der V6 Motor. Um Kosten zu sparen sollte man einiges selber machen und in Freie Werkstätten fahren und nie zu Porsche.
Ouch ! But how is the Cayenne compare to that Corvette and the Nissan in terms of handing and driving pleasure? Do you enjoy driving the Cayenne over the 2?
I know! It only gets worse if you see my more recent update on the cost of ownership... Lol. But I like the question! Cayenne beats the Corvette & Nissan Z in terms of comfort. It's very enjoyable to drive as well, just like you'd expect from a Porsche. The Nissan Z is very raw feeling by comparison, you feel the bumps and hear the road noise. The Z06 handles smoother then the Nissan Z but not as smooth as the Cayenne. The suspension on the Cayenne is pretty incredible, and road noise is minimal. All very different cars. Of the bunch, I'd say best daily driving experience = Cayenne. Most fun = Corvette Z06.
@@TexasRealEstate i own a c7 corvette 2015. It's been one year now and thinking of getting a Cayeene 2016. The reason of the change is getting a car that is a 🐈 magnet. Will Cayeene do the work for me ?
Gas is a real fucker with this truck. Still nice though. I average about 15 in the city and 23 on the highway you should use synthetic oils for the engine if it’s safe too I had to go to a Porsche mechanic I’m Brooklyn ... worked really well
I always used synthetic. 23 mpg is great. For whatever reason, I could never get up to that high even highway driving. Best I ever managed on a long highway driver was in the mid 18's mpg
I sold it within a year of this video, with about 164k miles on the clock. Great ownership experience overall for the 40k miles I had it! Happy to share as well that I recently picked up a 2014 Cayenne Turbo S. Stay tuned for more on that on the channel :)
Very true! While I can turn a wrench, I have no interest in doing so. Rather focus on my business and growing my revenue there instead of spending the time saving on the maintenance needs of my cars. To each his own though. :)
TYLER ROICKI Very fair responses, of all this is the most logical. Investing time into building revenue streams and having that hard work pay off the maintenance easily. I do all my own work too only my 06 Cayenne S, but researching, ordering parts, diagnostics and then actually going in to do the work being in awkward positions, possible injuries and damage to the hands it makes you question if it’s worth it. Oil messes and clean up etc time all adds up. To each their own sums it up perfectly. There is no right or wrong.
I’m hesitating between a first and a second generation cayenne base. Any recommendations on reliability here? I was looking at 2012 right under the 100k mileage. Gotta be difficult to find a first gen in this range.
I can't speak to the difference in reliability between first and second generation but my gut says that generation 2 would be the way to go, given both options. That being said, I felt that my 2010 (last year of that generation) was very reliable. And it definitely will be easier to find one under 100k that's newer vs older.
So, the trick is to buy anything after 2008 with the 3.6L engine, Not the GTS 4.8L one. Also. I may need to buy a Cayenne at a VERY low price to compensate for all that money I will pay for maintenance.
That's definitely a way to go about it. From a driving experience standpoint, to me the 6 cylinder doesn't fit the Cayenne as well but that's just my opinion having driven both. Having owned some of the least expensive Porsches available (started with a 924S), I have learned that there's no such thing as a cheap Porsche. :)
@@TexasRealEstate You mean that the V6 engine is small for the Cayenne??, I was surprised to see the 3.2L V6 engine in the Cayenne gives 250hp. My 2008 Acura MDX has a 3.6L V6 and it gives 300hp. Also, there is no doubt the MDX is too much more reliable than the Cayenne.
I know what you mean, I used to work on my own cars. It's definitely the way to go to minimize the maintenance expense. I've just found that I really don't enjoy working on cars, so I prefer to pay others to do the work for me. 🙂
Not sure which one would have the least problems, as I was only interested in the 4.8 myself. I'd suggest going to the Rennlist Porsche online forum and asking the question there, you should be able to get input from owners of those various models.
I could not imagine going to the dealer that often. I've had multiple AMG's and i know they are not much different at all from a standard Cayenne turbo or gts. Thank freaking fu*k i know how to work on my own cars lol. So for me with that math, somehow remove all labor and those outrageously overpriced tires, and we'd be good.
Well I put a lot of miles on it in a relatively short amount of time. Probably not so frequent if you're not clocking 20k miles a year like I was. Also I know how to work on my own cars, but I prefer to pay others to do that lol
@@TexasRealEstate absolutely. If you can afford that, by all means that's the best way to do if you have a trusted indy or really love your local dealer. Between house projects and bills I could never do that myself. 20k miles/yr is insane!
Only mechanically inclined folks should own a pre owned ,high mileage, German vehicle. Do all the maintanence and repairs you can. Only go to the dealer for things you cannot do. This will save you tens of thousands of dollars in the ownership of the vehicle. If you are the type to change cars often then theses vehicles are not for you as you will spend resources getting vehicle up to standard and then sell it off to the next lucky owner. Most used German cars in the U.S. are not properly maintained. Most folks just are not diligent enough when it comes to preventative maintanence. It is essential to be proactive with these vehicles not reactive and wait for things to break. Being in the Automotive Service industry I notice most people do not comprehend the preventative approach like they should. They value the prestige of the brand emblem but do not understand the commitment to maintain a properly running vehicle. They will.only do the minimum in most instances.
Awesome! Hopefully the video helps. Not sure how much of a difference it makes but I bought mine with 123k miles but it was well maintained throughout its life prior to my ownership.
Own a 2008 Cayenne TTS with full GTS kit for approximately 4 years it’s just ticked over 90,000 miles it had 83,xxx when I bought it: Changed plugs & coil packs £350 (did myself) Changed 4 tyres for Pirelli P1 £600 the set Changed cracked body acceleration sensor £700 including labour Changed waterlogged headlights and ballasts £3600 Changed seized front caliper and fitted Brembo discs, pads sensors all round £2600 including labour Transmission fluid and oil change £200 (I supplied fluids and filters) labour only That’s everything, they are known for headlight leaks, brakes are consumable so other than a seized caliper and the broken sensor the car has been completely reliable.
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Incredible video. Thank you so much for confirming I cant afford it :D
DoSe oF MoE Happy to help. Haha in all seriousness though, if I really understood how much I’d spend on maintenance & the cost of ownership when I bought it, I probably wouldn’t have wanted it bad enough to pull the trigger. 😅
This kinda proves that VW high end cars are solid to drive but very expensive to maintain. I am talking about this and Phaeton
@@nasarazam Yup, I'd definitely agree.
Man, I just purchased a 2004 Cayenne Turbo for $4300. I had to place rotors, brakes, and driveline for $2500.00. The radio is not working- probably Bose amp and I need tires. I also need oil change. I put $40.00 in gas. 138,000 miles on the vehicle. Your video is excellent and I’m done here, I can’t spend that kind of money. $6800.00 it is going up for sale.. I’ll take the first $6000.00 and accept the $800.00 loss as my lesson. Please let me sale. Thank you for the video. It is an A+ video. Your a real solid dude. Thanks man. Peace and Blessings
I've driven reliable front wheel drive cars for cheap
...and I've driven pain-in-the-butt German cars with higher running cost.
At the end of the day, though... nobody scours the classifieds for weeks looking for the right Hyundai.
Well said! 👍
Some say it makes more sense to just lease a car think about the numbers. To rent (lease) a car for three years you usually put about $3,000 to $5,000 down (plus tax). Then for three years you pay $350-$500. After that--which comes to around $16,000 to $23,000. Gone. You must give the car back.
Yes, you drove a nice new car and had no repairs but a person who owned a used Porsche for three years is probably not going to pay 15-20 grand on repairs.
I bought a used Cayenne and figure that if the repairs cost $10,000 over eight years or so, that's still better than leasing or getting hit by new car depreciation.
So far, it's been about three years and I haven't an unscheduled repair yet. Fingers crossed.
Some people just feel better paying thousands up front rather than have that anxiety of unscheduled repairs. And I do understand that. I know a woman who bought a late model Lexus because they are so reliable (and they are) but she still paid thousands extra for an after market warranty. That car never broke down and she never needed it, of course, but she said she slept better at night knowing she was covered. To each their own.
05 Porsche Cayenne turbo 250,000 miles, running strong!
That’s awesome to hear! 👍🏼
Repair record available? Please :)
@@peacelove7468 That would be neat to see! I'll have an updated video of mine sometime in the near future.
Anything will keep running strong as long as you keep pouring money into fixing it. That statement means nothing as it stands.
Good miles
Porsche Cayenne are great vehicles! If you can do the majority of the work yourself, you can save a boatload of money. There are so many you tube videos for every repair for 2003-2010 Cayennes.
Indeed they are! I have enjoyed mine. And you're right, that's a neat thing about RUclips... There's a DIY for just about everything, and forum posts whenever there's a lack of videos. 👍
Looking to get a 2014 GTS with 77k miles love the car and been searching a lot about it! Glad to know they are solid
My 2010 GTS was a great SUV... And now I love my 2014 Turbo S! Phenomenal SUV's
I thank for the info and keeping it real about the cost. Fairly typical for Porsche; the brake cost hasn't kicked in yet, the need to be replaced after 20-25k miles. Some dealerships charge up 10k for the high performance replacement on the GTS, however that shop you go to might be able to do it for less. If you did your own oil changes you could cut that expense down to $55-60. If the purchase price is low enough they are worth it, however with miles they'd be better of as a weekend car.
Thank you for the input! And I did have to address the brakes on the more recent update video I did. I'm happy to report that my cost for that was nowhere near the figure you mentioned... Less than $1,000 for new rotors and pads installed all around, between parts and labor. :) But yeah cost of ownership would have definitely been less as a weekend car vs daily. Been a fun experience to drive it nonetheless though.
those are awesome cars , keep up with regular service and maintenance, and it’ll run forever
I'd agree!
I like your channel. I was thinking a lot of buying a Porsche you put me of, I have a landcruiser Colorado it cost me about $ 800 a year
Thank you! And tough to beat a Toyota from a cost of ownership standpoint.
Hmm V6! That’s an oil burner VW engine. My S V8 barely uses a drop.
My Cayenne S is just touching 19 years old now and has excellent reliability.
This is also a really easy vehicle to service. You can cut service costs in half and use better parts/fluids and a better job. #diy
Glad to hear you're still enjoying yours after all those years! They truly are phenomenal vehicles. The V8 is a must in these.
You could do 90% of the stuff i saw listed that youve had done. If you work on em yourself, its not that bad. But i guess thats the difference between an Aggie and a Red Raider ;)
I'm a product of the UT school system actually. 😄 But I can definitely do my own work... I choose not to. Been there, done that. Wrenching isn't my thing but real estate is. 🙂
I realize this is 3 years old lol but I don't really think it's terrible when you take a look at the mileage used. 40k for a lot of people is 3.5-4 years
I agree! 👍
I wish I hadn't seen this video. I want an 09'-10' Turbo S or decent GTS really bad. But I don't know about $1k a month.
I feel your pain! I probably wouldn't have bought it if I really understood that's what I was signing up for. As some have suggested though, it's not as high of a cost if you can do your own labor. That or don't drive it as often as I drove mine... Highest monthly cost was the maintenance but I think it's in large part because I drove it everywhere and didn't hold back on putting miles on it.
Bro...that’s with a $0 down car payment and putting on way more miles per year than the average person
24 years of owning 3 ageing Toyotas:
Oil change every few years when I get around to it.
Clicking in the splines; which righted itself after ignoring it for a few months.
$80 for a broken speedo cable; self-installed in 5 minutes.
$0 for a new water pump; covered by extended Toyota warrantee on a 12-year-old-car.
$20 in blown headlight bulbs.
I’d love a Porsche (Macan, in my case), but I just have too much self-respect to put myself through the hassle. Think how much would have gone wrong over 24 years... (shudder)
I get it. No question that Toyota ownership has it's benefits 👍
Not much was for non-routine maintenance considering you drove the crap out of an older german car My 2017 WRX with 70k miles cost me way more than that in unexpected maintenance over the last 2 years with only about 5k miles per year the last 3 years.
I'd agree. And wild to hear!
you're not still running it eh? if not when did you stop? i just grabbed a 2006 cayenne S for $8200 cad a few weks ago.. solid 8 /10 al around .. 190km.. i'm no stranger to german cars.. have a few.. some for 10+ years but i bought this one on a bit of a whim and ditching the wifes 2014 tiguan with 150km .. lol.. i do question if its the right move.. but so far the thing has really impressed me, never had anything porsche before. i feel like the tiguan's value will drop like a rock soon and as long as this thing is running it's not going to get much less than 8200 cad (maybe $5500 usd) plus the tiguan is like driving a shopping cart heh,
I sold mine about a year ago. Had it for 2 years, bought with 123k miles and sold with 163k. Still running just as great at the time of sale as when I bought it. Likely won't be my last Cayenne. Right now I'm daily driving my 2008 Corvette Z06... But I'm not driving nearly as much now as I was then. And I agree with your assessment in terms of the value. These V8 Cayennes are a lot of value for the money. Hope you enjoy yours!
@@TexasRealEstate nice daily! i'd love to grab a c6 z06 someday.. not too interested in american cars but for that i will make an exception. i daily an 08 m5 6 speed in the summer for the last 5 years.. but i don't drive much either anymore.. yeah from what i've seen so far of the cayenne makes me want a real one.. especially if it holds its own in the "family suv" spot of our lineup as the wifes daily!
@@Joe-qu9se Would make for an awesome family SUV!
M5's are fun cars to drive as well, they've got some serious get up and go when you put the pedal down!! 👍
i HAVE A 2004 CAYENNE S BOUGHT WITH 222,000 MILES ON IT TWO DAYS AFTER BUYING IT MY BATTERY WAS BAD YES UNDER NTHE DRIVERS SEAT 271 DOLLARS BUT WHAT i CANT GET AN ANSWER TO IS WHY DO I HAVE ANOTHER IDENTICAL BATTERY UNDER THE REAR FLOOR WHERE A SPARE TIRE SHOULD BE UNDERNEATH A STUPID 8 INCH SUBWOOFER THE SIZE OF WHAT THE TIRE SHOULD BE NO ONE CAN TELL ME WHY I HAVE TWO BATTERIES SEEMS OVERKILL TO ME
I'd probably run that by a Porsche tech or maybe ask on the Porsche forum.
THANKS, i TAKE IT YOU DO NOT HAVE A SECOND BATTERY EITHER. IT IS VERY WIERD SINCE I DONT HAVE THE AIR RIDE SUSPENSION OR ANY OUT OF THE ORDINARY ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND THIS BATTERY WAS PUT THERE BY THE DEALER OR FACTORY AS IT SITS IN A BOX LIKE THE FRONT BATTERY AND HAS THE SAME IDENTICAL COVER OVER THE TOP OF THE BATTERY. THIS IS WIERD BUT THIS IS THE FIRST PORSCHE I HAVE OWNED AND I LOVE THIS CAR!!! IT IS A TOTAL HANDFUL OF STUFF I HAVE NEVER HAD IN A CAR OF COURSE UNTIL I BOUGHT THIS MY NEWEST CAR WAS A 1997 CHEVY LUMINA AND THANK YOU MAM FOR REAR ENDING ME AND TOTALING OUT MY CAR.STATE FARM SAID MY CAR WAS WORTH 2970.OO I ONLY PAID 400 FOR IT AND NOW I DRIVE A PORSCHE! IT IS IN AWESOME SHAPE WAS OBVIOUSLLY CARED FOR LOVINGLY IT HAS TO BE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED AT 68 I DESERVE A RIDE THAT HAS CLASS! THANKS FOR GETTING BACK TO ME AGAIN I LOVE MY CAYENNE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.@@TexasRealEstate
I have a 2018 with 18900 miles on it And Porsche just called me and said that my 20,000 mi maintenance is coming up It's going to be $1,300, They said oil change, filters, brake fluid flush and oh yeah new windshield wipers...$1300🤔.. I don't know I'm going to look into this because that sounds a little crazy but I'll pay it if I have to but I don't know if that's right..
That does sound high... Maybe that's just what it costs through Porsche. If you have any independents that work on Porsche's in your area, you could call around to see what the same service would run with them. Most of the service needs I've had come about on mine would have ran more $ through the dealer. If it were warranty work, I wouldn't hesitate to go through the dealer and have them charge whatever they want but if I'm paying, I'll go to the most reasonably priced technician / shop that knows the cars and has a good reputation.
@@TexasRealEstate yeah the car has a warranty but this service they said doesn't qualify under the warranty that's just regular maintenance, which I thought I paid for when I got the truck I guess I was wrong, and the first service was free now I have to pay, but yeah I completely agree that's what I'm doing now is calling around. Thx
@@michaelwise6970 Hope everything works out okay for you with it!
You can do that all yourself
Those parts shouldn’t cost more than $200 altogether and could easily be DIYed with a couple hours of your time.
My Cayenne has over 240,000 miles on it
That's amazing!
I did my battery myself £65,00
That's phenomenal... I can't even buy a battery for twice the cost of that here lol.
This is a car he started at 123,000 miles. You have some pretty heavy maintenance that you kind of need done, and you can probably beat that oil change price.
My Bimmer gauge rolled over the average fuel economy. It wouldn’t track back the entire life of the car.
One thing I will say is that my experience with the BMW dealership was WORLDS better than Dodge, Ford, Mazda, GM etc.
For example, does this car come with 2 keys? Ford “you can order one for $400.” BMW “if not, I will order one for you - no charge of course”
Or “this is covered under warranty, right?”
Dodge: “The PART is covered, but it will be three days so order your own rental car. Also, that doesn’t include the $250 deductible, shop rags, disposal fees, and any other charges we can make up.
BMW: “Yes, I can have a complimentary loaner car (brand new 5 series) ready later this morning.” Total cost was swapping keys back and forth. Oh AND the BMW dealership would text me daily on the status of my car. I told my friends after owning that 340, I realized I couldn’t afford to drive another Charger.
Your mileage may vary, but I really hate getting nickeled and dimed for every little thing like they do at more ‘affordable’ dealerships. The cost of a 3 year old 340 with M performance was comparable to a Charger R/T that had twice as many miles.
As with anything, some cars need more attention than others.
I had a E92 335i Coupe at one point, enjoyable car!
I can only sat that people is ready to spend lot of money on the car they " must have".
Definitely have to pay to play with these cars.
@@TexasRealEstate true, pay to play...
@@TexasRealEstate but I like cayenne, but is afraid can cost me much to repair, replace pices....
High Mileage.... more than 350 000 miles .... 150 000 is normal use...
I haven't personally seen or heard of one with mileage that high, but I'm sure there's some out there!
The cost of my 08 STI and more over 12 months bog standard.... I prefer the ego trip
I had a 04 STI tuned to 500hp at one point. Amazing cars for the money, especially when you up the power like that. Night and day difference between how that car drives and feels vs the Cayenne GTS. It just depends on what you want from the experience, I opted for the experience the Cayenne had to offer for daily purposes. Already had my C6 Z06 for speed and fun when I bought it. 🙂
@@TexasRealEstate lmao such a legend
Not sarcastic
@@NapoleonDynamite69 I appreciate you!
Money pit.
Yup lol
If a vehicle is not reliable is trash(all European vehicles)
Not stranded once over the course of 40k miles... I consider that to be very reliable. 😃
Too expensive for, will stick to Lexus RX
To each their own, completely understand why one would opt for a Lexus. 👍
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Yup. You know as well as I do. Haha
Great summary. You hit the nail on the head. It can be a reliable SUV with basic and proper maintenance which is of course expensive due to Porsche being a luxury brand, but the driving characteristics of this SUV are superior. Its a true SUV that can go off-road and it drives better than some sports cars.
Thank you Hector! I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and for your kind feedback. 👍
Well, you bought it because it’s a Porsche but people don’t realize is that all vehicles out there needs to be maintained and it costs $$$ but the joy of driving a Porsche is unbelievably awesome!
Yes indeed! I'd agree with you on that... Porsche's are awesome vehicles to drive! 😃
To be fair, Toyotas don't need much maintenance. I had clicking splines, which righted themselves after ignoring them for a few months. I’ve had zero oil on the dipstick on more than one occasion, but the car kept going for a decade after topping up. My first Toyota, I only serviced every 3 or 4 years, and I thrashed the crap out of it (young and immature). In 24 years, 3 ageing Toyotas, I’ve had one broken speedo cable, and one water pump replaced under extended warrantee (on a 12-year-old car). Yes, I should have maintained a lot better than I did, but from my experience, they don’t NEED it.
Meh
Im a verry amateur mechanic but the coolant pipe, therm., etc. was a pretty easy repair (despite the mechanics making it sound like it was an engine tear down). Took me about 6 hours and cost around 700 in parts (with a new starter).
You're right. I'd just personally rather pay someone else the labor cost and focus the time on my work & business. To each their own though.
Sounds like as much as my Mini for random parts! 😂 why not jumping to Porsche then. I’m debating haha
I purchased a 2009 S new in 2008. It has about 260000 miles on it now. I have the oil changed every 40000 miles or so. I burn about a quart every 5000 miles. One annoying feature is water building in up in some door panels at times. Had to remove plugs in bottom of door sills. One door has rusted. Otherwise still running stong. Drive shaft went around 170000 miles. I Switched tires to nokian wrg 3 and now wrg 4. Lasted much longer than most other brands plus got about 1.5mpg more which shocked me. Less responsive but softer and better for potholes etc. They have held up well for driving in southern new england.
Glad to hear yours has treaded you very well over the years as well! 👍
Oil changed at 40 at miles? My goodness you're entering Citroen 2.2 diesel country there. That's what they recommend. I'm old just couldn't do it. 5k mile changes thank you.
260k.. that's encouraging!
Every 40,000 miles?
4000 miles more like it
Coming from having owned a BMW... this sounds like a really low maintenance car. Also compared to Audi vehicles this sounds like too good to be true. 👍good job on the buy man
Having owned a E92 335i Coupe (which was tons of fun), I can understand exactly what you mean! 😅
owned 3 bmw's and can confirm that they are probably one of the most expensive to keep in line, been driving a 98 tahoe in the same time frame and cost of maint was virtually nothing aside from consumables.
bmw maint -4.5k -5k in 2.5yrs
Roll in there the Mini Cooper too. My current everyday ride. Brought this baby up to 150k miles with only a clutch repair. The problem is just in the USA people charge $$$ to work on my beloved European cars.
Looking to buy a used Porsche now, keeping the old mini hoping it’ll become a classic collector one day so I can switch my daily driver car to something as fun as my current vehicule. 🤞🏻
I wouldn't look at this in terms of monthly cost because all of the repairs done and paid for should not be required again--or at least for an extended period. It's more like an up-front fee--aside from oil changes. And of course, a lot of this could be done for a tiny fraction. The first $1,000 bill was mostly labor and could have been done in 2 hours in a garage with basic tools saving well over $600. Its not even "wrenching." The good news is that if you're willing to do a little of your own work, the cost of ownership really doesn't sound that bad.
Thanks for sharing! I don't disagree with anything you're saying. In my experience with the cars I've owned I've noticed that the cost of ownership tends to be pretty consistent over a longer course of time and use. So while the maintenance items will indeed vary from service to service, over time it can be broken down into an average annual cost or as I put it, monthly. Which indeed is realized in sporadic intervals rather than on a monthly basis. And of course those who prefer to do their own labor can save on the labor expense, but there is a tradeoff of time of which has an often unspoken expense. For those who enjoy working on cars or find it as most financially beneficial to do so, I think it's a great thing. 👍
@@TexasRealEstate working in cars can definitely be timely and I totally agree that is an expense! And there are certainly jobs that can be on a level where it makes more sense to pay a shop to do it, but an oil change and many other maintenance type tasks can be done in a couple of hours on a Friday night or early Saturday morning and can save hundreds, if not thousands, over the life of the vehicle. Personally, I like the quiet and the alone time in the garage, not to mention the fact that I cannot stand having to schedule and appointment and then leave my vehicle with someone else I don’t trust lol.
Damn, they charged you 300 for a 40 minute battery change lol.
At least I got a brand new Range Rover as a loaner. 😝 But on a more serious note, do you know where the batteries are located in these? Most inconvenient of places lol
@@TexasRealEstate I do, not the only vehicle with very inconvenient battery compartments. Just be glad you didnt have the air ride package that has another battery under the rear seat and tire.
Hmm. Here in Australia that would equate to around $10kAU over 2 years, or just shy of $200 a week. In maintenance. I could almost buy a brand new 918 on finance for that. Certainly it'd get me a new Golf R or a WRX STi. Not that the Cayenne isn't a beautiful car; but I think that's probably a bit much. Just for comparison, my 2000MY Boxster S has cost me $600 in the last year, and that was for a service at Porsche. There is definitely a sense of occasion when you drive a Porsche, even an oldie. But in my humble opinion, given the running costs involved, the Cayenne is a car for mechanics, or at least those with strong mechanical skills.
Don’t forget to factor in the fact that you still have to maintain those as well lol
Valid point, but the Cayenne serves a different purpose than the Boxster for most. I think with Porsche's in general, many owners are willing to deal with the maintenance cost for the driving experience you mention.
If you want to be cost effective you have to learn how to fix things on the series 1 955 series 2 957 yourself. They basically don't break it's the sophisticated electrics you need to learn and understand this is where the common failures are when they age . The car has multiple little modules like little hard drives that control things via the main computer .EG one each for each head light cluster , one for the transfer case , one for the ignition steering lock that aways fails . These fail and basically the car becomes a 2500kg paper weight . All the mechanicals are straight froward and bullet proof German engineering and lots of info how to fix out there . Learn how the vehicle works mechanically and have an understanding of the half a dozen control modules work and you sort of need to learn the clearing of error codes and reseting of these modules if you want to avoid paying someone to scan and diagnose . with these modern cars its very little mechanical and all electrics that will stuff you up . Learn how to clear faults and re program new modules when they fail . You will save thousands . Then it's just the cost of parts . Its the labour thats the problem paying people to work on it can make it not worth it over a longe period of time .
$400 to change the battery?! It takes 10 minutes... this is why I do all my own work on my vehicles. That's how I can afford my German vehicles.
That did include the cost of the battery which was a lions share of the cost if I remember correctly. To each their own, I choose to focus my time and energy on my areas of expertise instead.
u have no idea how difficult to change a battery on a cayenne
@@jayzhang14 move seat forward undo rear battery cover clips. Move seat back and undo seat bolts. Tip seat back undo battery cover bolts and front cover clips and remove battery cover. Remove battery stabilisers. Attach memory keeper to jump start terminals. Detach battery cables and replace. Then do all those steps in reverse to complete. Job takes about 30-45 minutes depending and you may need to cut carpet but that doesn’t show as it’s along carpet creases.
@@eddherring4972 would u consider it is easy comparing other car? I don’t think most people can do it themselves. Of course I know how it works, but I would not do it myself.
@@jayzhang14 no, I’d consider it very complex and most likely would want someone else to do it.
I paid $4,500 cash for a 2006 Cayenne S 4.5L with 150,000 miles. It booked at about $9,000. I knew it needed some love. Starter, plugs, oil, re-glue headliner, replace hood struts, and hatch struts, buff out. I paid $1,600 to my mechanic and did the smaller stuff. So....I'm into it for $6,150. It was a government car from Arizona for 130,000 miles and had a great service record. It's a great running car, and is fun to drive. It has 90 more horsepower than my 1991 Corvette had. I've only had it for 8 months, and would be happy to buy it again. If it lasts for another year and a half I'll probably give it to my sister when I move back to Asia. I also have a boring, reliable Kia Sportage.
Awesome buy! 🙌 Thank you for sharing.
1.5 speed, thank me later
Thank you! 🙌
I just bought one this isnt bad. although its always good to find a good Porsche tech to repair the ridiculously high stuff Im lucky, I have a good tech for my 1986.5 928, he can work on the Cayenne too!
250$ for a scan and module reset - pure theft mate. It shouldn't be more than 50$ at least in Europe you can fix these cars for 1/4 of the US prices...
I didn't mind paying at the time for the service. I appreciate the feedback!
You need a Ford guy. Or move to mexico where it is a few dollars to do each thing.mexicans know cars.
I hear what you're saying but my mindset is more geared to increasing income so I can foot the bill of the cars I like.
nothing bitter then a Toyota landcruiser Colorado big & powerful reliable strong, good, a car is not a second marriage we have to remember a car is a horse ,if it to costly we don't use it, otherwise you become the bank, I am so happy to hear your story, about your car
I appreciate it and thank you for watching!
my audi is worse lol. I'm switching to a cheyenne s because of the reliability difference.... those prices aren't bad either! your dealing with a good shop! I've seen bills worse than that on my old Subaru suv!
Yeah I didn't think the prices were bad. Was happy to pay for the service with a great shop. Hope you find yourself a nice Cayenne S and enjoy it! 👍
The vehicle depreciates not the cost of maintenance and repair.
If you want to drive a high end European luxury vehicle than those are the prices you have to pay.
If the costs scare you buy a Hyundai Tucson....
Yup, you've got to pay to play 👍
This seams like alot of routine maintenance like that of any vehicle. Just a bit more to pay a porsche shop. At least hes not showing a bunch of really expensive repairs that are faults in the design. Its a solid car. And not much drives quite as well. Comfortable too. Plus as he said, if you can do it yourself. Tricky in ways but totally doable.... :)
100%. Pretty well all routine maintenance. Great ownership experience all around.
Also I'd say he drives quite a bit more than the average person which would accelerate routine maintenance and wear and tear.
@@jasonbletzinger3444 Yup, that's definitely the case.
Driving a 2004 Cayenne s with 270,000 Kim’s/170000miles,runs pretty good.but I am getting a whining noise from the driveline on deceleration.other than that the truck runs fine.
Very glad to hear! They're great driving vehicles!
I @@TexasRealEstate yup.i had the same suv over 10 years ago, I paid 15 times more for it back then. Loved it so much bought it again last year as a winter beater.i trust this truck in any weather with my life!
If you are capable doing oil, brakes, and minor repairs you can get the cost way down. Obviously that's not for everyone but but I'd never pay 200 for an oil change
For sure. Definitely ways to cut the cost down for DIYers. 👍
Great info! It's videos like these that make me lean toward a used Lexus RX 350. Not as exciting, but for the same price, you can afford a newer model, & Lexus reliability is off the charts.
Glad you found the video helpful! I'd say it depends on what your biggest priorities are. I valued the Porsche driving experience over reliability / cost effectiveness. That being said, I've found Porsches to be incredibly reliable in my experience owning both the Cayenne and a couple others. Typically higher maintenance cost when service is needed but nothing like the experience. I'd probably go with a Lexus or something similar if I wanted something nice and more cost effective.
You've got me considered the Porsche. Most useful stat was $4,300 in repairs after excluding oil and tires ($2,150/yr). We have an '03 Honda Element & an '11 Lexus ES350. They average $1,250/yr each, & that includes keeping ahead of recommended maintenance, like performing a trans fluid flush at 50K miles instead of 100K. Tough decision!
@@JT-fd3tf Have you driven a Porsche yet? If not, definitely would recommend doing so before you decide on something!
Wait until your hybrid battery dies on your Lexus. My friends just got a $7k repair quote just to change that battery on her Lexus. I’ll go with a base gas option. I wish they made these with manual transmission.
I hate automatic so bad.
@@ameliebellefille4616 They did make the 2008-2010 Cayenne GTS in manual. They're rare but they're out there.
From the rough numbers, the premium tax (the extra maintenance over the tyres and oil) was only around $200 per month. The remainder $850pm would be similar for any car. Except maybe the fuel but that's true of any thirsty vehicle.
$200pm/$2,400pa is not chump-change but, factored into the purchase price, and these are often relatively cheap compared to "sensible competition", it's a worthwhile thing to know. Interesting to know what happens the next 5 years and whether that adds up consistently to be a total of $12K.
True. I more than likely wont own it long enough to find out... I like to switch cars every 2-3 years tops. Already put 40k miles on it which is about as much as I've put on anything so I'm pretty well at the point where I'm ready to move on and get something else. 🙂 I will more than likely do one more cost of ownership update prior though.
your summary was amazing!! I love my cayenne S and every penny is worth it!! Thank you for your time.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video. Enjoy your Cayenne S in good health!
Damn, just started watching several car-tubers and they all do a Go-Pro-Blair-Witch style of filming. Please stop the madness before I hurl! 🤢
I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Damn... I actually love the way this truck loves and I’ve had a shitty dodge before so I’m fine with the mpg
Yeah it's basically truck mpg but Porsche everything else lol.
2004 Cayenne S V8 purchased used for $15K, seven years ago- w/90K miles now has 153K miles. Now dropped approximately 26K in dealer OEM maintenance over seven years. Didn't drive it in 2021 or 2020 since working from home during COVID. Currently, sitting at $490/month not including fuel, ins., taxes. Has survived three major hail storms. Absolute pile of garbage, but I is my favorite vehicle ever.
I definitely understand your sentiment haha
bro you could cut this amount by 70% if you just did all of this work yourself i own a 2008 cayenne and i do all the work on all my cars my self there is so much information on the internet where you can learn how to do everything!! its not that hard!!
I'm good with that. What you're saying doesn't account for any opportunity costs :)
@@TexasRealEstate yeah I don’t enjoy getting ripped off by a shop
No, its indeed not worth it... simple fact its 13 years old, high mileage with inherited issues. Basically bought a money pit. I guess you have to ask yourself.. do I care about money? if you don't more than than that car.. good choice. money just provides choices but it stocks when common sense is out of stock.
Keep in mind that is all service work vs doing your own maintenance which adds up quickly. Granted the GTS is a beast and comes with the typical Euro Tax for maintenance.
That is true. DIYers will definitely make out ahead on the financial cost. And that brings up one other thing I meant to note, those are independent prices vs dealer. I believe the bill would be higher if done through the dealer.
@@TexasRealEstate Absolutely! Most of the maintenance items I think are priced fairly from the shop. You have a lot of miles for the timespan which makes the ownership cost look a bit higher IMO. No argument on $200 per oil change either as it takes an hour and ~$80 in supplies even with mail order parts and wallyworld M1 jugs.
@@TheTrothKeeper Yup, that's exactly right. It's definitely not the most practical daily driver from a cost perspective, but I will say it is the most comfortable daily I've ever had lol
Everyone would be surprised it they calculated their costs of ownership the way you did..I thought my Lexus was cost efficient, but calculating it up my monthly daily driving cost was about half of yours and you put on way more miles...cool perspective.
@@twotime88 Thank you! And no doubt. That's what's neat about Lexus though, you get a luxury experience without the German level maintenance cost. I love driving the Porsche daily it's a real nice driving experience but I wouldn't mind have the extra money available in my bank account instead at this point. So hopefully sharing more of my car experiences here will make the expense more worthwhile.
Of course! I totally understand. It's a high performance vehicle with a high mileage. Would it have been cheaper with a Chevrolet V8 or other?
As much as I love Chevy LS engines, I wouldn't want one in a Cayenne. 😅
IF You still have warranty remaining, you are stuck on maintenance...has to be done by a Porsche shop. Use an indie , have a warranty issue and they will deny that warranty repair. Porsche has us by the balls on service. I'm on my 4th one now. I think the quality was better than it is now a few decades back. much of the design of small parts and some major parts seem to be one of "planned obsolescence". Using too many plastic parts that harden and fail over time and being exposed to engine heat. Aluminum fasteners another silly feature.
Yup... Warranty wasn't an issue for me but maintenance cost is still high but I do drive a lot. I think Porsche is better about the planned obsolescence than many of their contemporaries in the automotive world but there's definitely still components that will fail in time - due to their design. But I still believe Porsches are somewhat more reliable long term than the alternatives - I think the quality is higher.
$6500 for 2 years of driving, 35k miles on such a high mileage luxury SUV is way less than I expected.
I plan on buying one with approx 45-50k miles and this definitely convinced me to get one!
Awesome to hear! I really enjoyed mine, such an awesome SUV! 👍
Jesus, you've re-purchased the car in 2 years.
Yup 😅
hi, thanks for the video i just bought a 2008 porsh cayenne. would you please tell me please how much oil sould i put in the engine? i see you put on pig gallon. is is one or 2 gallons?
Sounds like yours didn't come with an owners manual. If that's the case, this should help you with this question and more you'll have in the future:
www.porsche.com/china/en/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/manuals-cayenne/
Hopefully the macan will be cheaper to own.
Would love to hear more about that myself!
$12,600/year to drive around in that jalopy is pretty crazy. It's not even worth that much now is it? I would guess only $10-15k with >100k miles. Buy a better car.
Loving the Cayenne Turbo S I have now 🙂
one needs to be a complete rip off to pay that muck money for that labor while most of it is pretty much DIY (except computer calibration and tier replacement/balancing)
To each their own. I'm not a DIYer, my time is more highly valued in other places than working on vehicles. I'm happy with the value and service I received for the price.
Shit man 400 just for your battery 😅 do it yourself bud it’s an easy job kunt unbolt the seat and tilt it back fold carpet un clip battery box and change ya battery. Make sure to hook up the jump ports under the hood to a 12volt power while u do it and u won’t have to reset everything afterwards 👍
Looking back, it's crazy but I found out that it's even more in the newer ones! I have a 2014 Turbo S now... Luckily the battery was replaced right before I purchased. The cost on those makes the $400 seem like a bargain 😅
Thank you for the video, I want to switch my Maserati Levante to a Porsche Cayenne, that looks cheaper than owning an Italian Maserati >.
I have no doubt about that! Haha. The Levante is a nice sounding SUV though 👌
Der V8 Motor ist im Unterhalt auch teuer, etwas günstiger ist der V6 Motor.
Um Kosten zu sparen sollte man einiges selber machen und in Freie Werkstätten fahren und nie zu Porsche.
I'm sure there is a solution to the excessive oil top up, why don't you do it?
I've worked on my own cars in years prior and do not enjoy it. Also my time is better spent working on my business.
Ouch ! But how is the Cayenne compare to that Corvette and the Nissan in terms of handing and driving pleasure? Do you enjoy driving the Cayenne over the 2?
I know! It only gets worse if you see my more recent update on the cost of ownership... Lol. But I like the question! Cayenne beats the Corvette & Nissan Z in terms of comfort. It's very enjoyable to drive as well, just like you'd expect from a Porsche. The Nissan Z is very raw feeling by comparison, you feel the bumps and hear the road noise. The Z06 handles smoother then the Nissan Z but not as smooth as the Cayenne. The suspension on the Cayenne is pretty incredible, and road noise is minimal. All very different cars. Of the bunch, I'd say best daily driving experience = Cayenne. Most fun = Corvette Z06.
@@TexasRealEstate i own a c7 corvette 2015. It's been one year now and thinking of getting a Cayeene 2016. The reason of the change is getting a car that is a 🐈 magnet. Will Cayeene do the work for me ?
Thank you very much for your great video. Really helped me make my decision to purchase one or not.
Glad to help!
Almost cheaper to lease or buy a newer CPO. Regardless, great video and helped me decide.
Yeah I definitely agree. Glad you found my video helpful!
Nope. It’s cheaper to keep the car and fix it yourself.
Gas is a real fucker with this truck. Still nice though. I average about 15 in the city and 23 on the highway you should use synthetic oils for the engine if it’s safe too I had to go to a Porsche mechanic I’m Brooklyn ... worked really well
I always used synthetic. 23 mpg is great. For whatever reason, I could never get up to that high even highway driving. Best I ever managed on a long highway driver was in the mid 18's mpg
It's 2023 now and I'm wondering how long you kept it following the video.
Buying one for my wife.😉
I sold it within a year of this video, with about 164k miles on the clock. Great ownership experience overall for the 40k miles I had it! Happy to share as well that I recently picked up a 2014 Cayenne Turbo S. Stay tuned for more on that on the channel :)
Moral of this video for me is lease it new and walk away. 😂
That's a solid takeaway honestly haha 😂
Nope! The moral of the story is, learn how to turn a wrench (no disrespect).
The money you spent on that Cayenne would have been enough for down payments on two rental homes in South Texas.
For sure! Are you in the real estate business as well?
What year is this cayenne is?
2010
I got a Lexus rx and it doesn't burn oil it's got 278000 but then Lexus rx is better built than the Porsche cayenne, no surprise there
That's pretty amazing! Glad you're enjoying your Lexus. 😎👍
If you can turn a wrench. The cost would be a 3rd to a 4th the cost. 🤷🏼♂️. An oil change is $80. 🤦🏼♂️.
Very true! While I can turn a wrench, I have no interest in doing so. Rather focus on my business and growing my revenue there instead of spending the time saving on the maintenance needs of my cars. To each his own though. :)
@@TexasRealEstate what an awesome reply to what i read as not the nicest comment. thank you for your video.
@@josepha9703 Thank you for the response and for watching the video! I appreciate you.
TYLER ROICKI Very fair responses, of all this is the most logical. Investing time into building revenue streams and having that hard work pay off the maintenance easily.
I do all my own work too only my 06 Cayenne S, but researching, ordering parts, diagnostics and then actually going in to do the work being in awkward positions, possible injuries and damage to the hands it makes you question if it’s worth it. Oil messes and clean up etc time all adds up. To each their own sums it up perfectly. There is no right or wrong.
I’m hesitating between a first and a second generation cayenne base.
Any recommendations on reliability here? I was looking at 2012 right under the 100k mileage. Gotta be difficult to find a first gen in this range.
I can't speak to the difference in reliability between first and second generation but my gut says that generation 2 would be the way to go, given both options. That being said, I felt that my 2010 (last year of that generation) was very reliable. And it definitely will be easier to find one under 100k that's newer vs older.
Dude i baught a cayenne S for the price of the first two repairs XD less than 3000$
That's awesome!! Enjoy, they're awesome vehicles!!
And I thought Bimmers were a lot to maintain
UK gallon 4.54 litres. Approx. American gallon 3.78 litres approx. So fuel consumption slightly different in U.K.
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So, the trick is to buy anything after 2008 with the 3.6L engine, Not the GTS 4.8L one. Also. I may need to buy a Cayenne at a VERY low price to compensate for all that money I will pay for maintenance.
That's definitely a way to go about it. From a driving experience standpoint, to me the 6 cylinder doesn't fit the Cayenne as well but that's just my opinion having driven both. Having owned some of the least expensive Porsches available (started with a 924S), I have learned that there's no such thing as a cheap Porsche. :)
@@TexasRealEstate You mean that the V6 engine is small for the Cayenne??, I was surprised to see the 3.2L V6 engine in the Cayenne gives 250hp. My 2008 Acura MDX has a 3.6L V6 and it gives 300hp. Also, there is no doubt the MDX is too much more reliable than the Cayenne.
Wouldn't make more sense to lease a car with good gas milage?
It probably would.
Too rich for my blood. Was thinking about upgrading to a Macan from a QX 60. But that’s okay.
It's a love hate relationship at times with these German cars, that's for sure! Love driving them until it's a drive to the shop lol.
Do your own work bro, take your funnel and throw it out, get some tools.
I know what you mean, I used to work on my own cars. It's definitely the way to go to minimize the maintenance expense. I've just found that I really don't enjoy working on cars, so I prefer to pay others to do the work for me. 🙂
@@TexasRealEstate then you will always pay way to much for any little job.
Hi bro
I planned to buy a cayenne of 1st generation, which one is the best model? (Less problems)
3.2? 3.6? 4.5? 4.8?
Not sure which one would have the least problems, as I was only interested in the 4.8 myself. I'd suggest going to the Rennlist Porsche online forum and asking the question there, you should be able to get input from owners of those various models.
JD Powers rated the 2009 Cayennes with a 5-star rating for reliability. 2008 was a 4.5 I think.
If you buy a car at 500 a month, insurance, and gas for a new car. It’s basically the same.
Yeah, not a huge difference compared to a new vehicle especially when you factor maintenance.
I could not imagine going to the dealer that often. I've had multiple AMG's and i know they are not much different at all from a standard Cayenne turbo or gts. Thank freaking fu*k i know how to work on my own cars lol. So for me with that math, somehow remove all labor and those outrageously overpriced tires, and we'd be good.
Well I put a lot of miles on it in a relatively short amount of time. Probably not so frequent if you're not clocking 20k miles a year like I was. Also I know how to work on my own cars, but I prefer to pay others to do that lol
@@TexasRealEstate absolutely. If you can afford that, by all means that's the best way to do if you have a trusted indy or really love your local dealer. Between house projects and bills I could never do that myself. 20k miles/yr is insane!
That's a ridiculous amount, but hey if you got the cash and don't mind. Why the hell not?
I can't say it's the worst money I've ever spent lol - glad to have had a great time behind the wheel for 40k+ miles.
Worth it to not drive a boring vehicle. If you’re not into cars not worth it.
Spot on. I completely agree.
Only mechanically inclined folks should own a pre owned ,high mileage, German vehicle. Do all the maintanence and repairs you can. Only go to the dealer for things you cannot do. This will save you tens of thousands of dollars in the ownership of the vehicle. If you are the type to change cars often then theses vehicles are not for you as you will spend resources getting vehicle up to standard and then sell it off to the next lucky owner. Most used German cars in the U.S. are not properly maintained. Most folks just are not diligent enough when it comes to preventative maintanence. It is essential to be proactive with these vehicles not reactive and wait for things to break. Being in the Automotive Service industry I notice most people do not comprehend the preventative approach like they should. They value the prestige of the brand emblem but do not understand the commitment to maintain a properly running vehicle. They will.only do the minimum in most instances.
any1 here owns or owned a cayenne trubo s? Is it worh it?
I have a 2014 Cayenne Turbo S now. Phenomenal SUV for the money.
What could you get behind the wheel of for $1000 a month all up? Probably better car and less time at the repair shop?
For sure. Plenty of newer vehicles under warranty at that point.
We need an extra car and looking at a 2009 Cayenne with 70K miles. Here to find out more info about maintenance.
Awesome! Hopefully the video helps. Not sure how much of a difference it makes but I bought mine with 123k miles but it was well maintained throughout its life prior to my ownership.
Have two 2009 diesels one 72000 and 92000 both good cars one standerd spec the other high spec , love both off them
They're great driving vehicles. 👍
Own a 2008 Cayenne TTS with full GTS kit for approximately 4 years it’s just ticked over 90,000 miles it had 83,xxx when I bought it:
Changed plugs & coil packs £350 (did myself)
Changed 4 tyres for Pirelli P1 £600 the set
Changed cracked body acceleration sensor £700 including labour
Changed waterlogged headlights and ballasts £3600
Changed seized front caliper and fitted Brembo discs, pads sensors all round £2600 including labour
Transmission fluid and oil change £200 (I supplied fluids and filters) labour only
That’s everything, they are known for headlight leaks, brakes are consumable so other than a seized caliper and the broken sensor the car has been completely reliable.
Glad you're enjoying yours!
My boy ur choice in cars tho ✊✊ 370 ,, corvette n a porsche suv
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