Thank you for shining light so authentically! I like that you simply held up the ruler. Here is the definition of a high control group. Holding that ruler up to ourselves and the people around us is not an accusitory action. Curiosity and asking questions is a valuable healing tool! If you are highly offended or deeply uncomfortable at hearing this definition, then you must dig deeper, ask questions, and be curious. I think simply asking the question can lead toward growth and a journey toward peace. If you can't ask questions, if you can't be curious, then you are not in a healthy situation and you should strive for some change or growth. Whether it be escaping a bad situation or beginning an inner self improvement journey. Thank you for inspiring us!!
Megan I admire your backbone and your courage and that you are standing your ground. In my opinion these so-called men of an unholy little god are probably getting their revelation from Satan. If their revelation is coming from the one true God of the Christian community they would be demonstrating a measure of humility. It’s all about edifying themselves and building a cult.
Thank you Megan for standing up for truth in Maniputions of Religious Rabbithole people find themselves in! I pray the white light of love & protection over you & your path! I am proud of you!
Thank you for bringing the truth to the light. I really wish these middle aged (or older) white men would quit saying ‘I had near death experience and now I can speak to God.’ These words have very harmful consequences. (Obviously!) I am so happy to see you are using your voice for good.
The bottom line is that these groups are dangerous! I'm disappointed in how these men responded to your video. It did them absolutely no favors and made them look worse, and that's sad.
You’re disappointed that we would confront false allegations made by others through the broadcaster: And why is that? The bottom line is that you’re accepting generalities comforting to your paradigm and dismissing any possibility of nuance.
@MadeToBeBold I guess I'm disappointed in the response not being a seek to understand and help the broadcaster and viewers understand these mens true intentions. Rather than having more concern about their name. Honestly, I didn't remember the two names mentioned until the response video.
@@kristagardner8303frankly, you didn’t see the response: you heard a synopsis from Megan in this video. So no, you haven’t received the whole picture. And clearing one’s name of false charges is a legitimate desire. Consider withholding and recanting your former judgment.
Poor Phil ...busted out as another false messiah. I think all these groups , covens, or whatever are, dangerous and unhinged. You seem to have strick a nerve. He just outed himself. He must be seething and preaching.what a dark person you are at rhis very minute. Thank you for calling these folks out. Keep safe
Actually, he’s been very grateful for how cooperative Megan has been to our request… Megan can speak for herself of our conversation with her during the zoom we did and since, but having been present in discussion with him since, this is my account. I wonder if you would self-reflect: you literally just did to him - ignorantly - what you suppose him to do: speaking ill, character judgement without knowledge, and demonization. Maybe you’re part of the problem? Maybe you have a cult mentality?
I agree with you. I'm heading toward 63 years old & that's what I've seen in my life: Someone telling others that "god" speaks to them and so you need to listen to what they're saying because they now know what "god" wants from everyone. I've never known someone who actually really did talk to "god." I'm an atheist. I've never found any evidence that god actually exists. I also question the existence of Jesus Christ re whether he was a mythical person.
I love your ACCURATE Thumbnail👏 My Mom was an ex irish catholic nun. She left the convent with 24yo, moved to germany, married my dad and had bro and me. My Mom was very religious until the day she died. Nevertheless, my Mom told my brother and me whilst explaining "god" and faith bla bla, that people should never debate, argue or fight about "god". She said Your faith belongs to you alone. "God" is not factual, he/she is a belief, or not. I cant stand it when people talk about their gods in a complete factual notion. Because you can't!! Well done for not letting these two Cult members bully you to remove anything you posted on YOUR channel👍 They are probably flabbergasted that you, a mere woman, would not submit😱😂
@@MadeToBeBold Jeff, I'm sure you have heard the name, and it's easy to do the research. It won't take you long. I didn't say you were EQUAL to her, sounds like a guilty conscience.
@@lizpongratz9466it’s a variation on you “equating” us with her, which you did. Doesn’t have to necessarily be a 100% match to equate parties or situations. Sounds like you’re reaching and eager to accuse. Ignorant and spurious accusations are a dime a dozen these days.
@@MadeToBeBold Jeff, variation is the key word in this exchange, not equating. Ignorant and spurious definitions are a dime a dozen these days, but it does look like you've done the research I suggested. Or perhaps you knew more than you originally let on. After scrolling through the comments to this video, I see that you have been busy. Be careful, it may start to look like your reaching...
I just watch under the banner of heaven...scary how people believe they thought rhey were hearing from God and could control others to do evil acts..so be careful and trust yourself..i dont know these people but you have a right to speak about your truth❤❤❤
Compliment to you that you ruffled their feathers!! 🪶 keep it up! You are ALWAYS informed and extremely articulate. Please keep this up we all admire what you are doing and keep yourself safe. ❤
Thank you. Your lists need to read by all. Some individuals in questionable groups proclaim many behaviors as addictions. True addictions need to be addressed very delicately. Normal and reasonable desires are not addictions. 1. Make sure the addict us relatively. 2. Have a general discussion. The addiction will probably come up. 3. Don't badger or make this person is wrong. 4. Ask around for possible resources. Not everyone can afford health care
Hmmm like they are going to admit they had “boys” groups with Daybell now after the trials 🙄 I watched his “sword of vengeance” videos um ok Jefferey trying to bully this intelligent woman who speaks truth
Wait... when were you in the DoC group? I dabbled with them for a few months. I ended up leaving them and the Mormon church as a whole 3 years ago. I'm now a Christian.
@Third_Verse I didn't make the connection until after I left. I did buy Visions of Glory apparently though. I never read it, but when I saw Hidden True Crime taking about it, I looked it up and saw that I bought it in 2021, about the time I started meeting with them. I don't even remember buying it, but I found it with the Mormon books I tucked away in the basement when we left the church.
Wow! You are so strong and amazing! Such a politically correct and eloquent delivery of your response. I hope you don't mind, I'm going to send you an email. Your video really caught my attention regarding the facts of cults. Keep doing what you are doing... you are just amazing!
I was going to subscribe to this channel but not anymore. I am SO sorry for the abuse you have suffered Megan! I hope you get the help you need so you can stop projecting your issues onto religions that, although imperfect, are trying hard to follow Jesus Christ!
Jesus Christ was primarily concerned with caring for the poor and needy and marginalized people. The CoJCoLDS is more concerned with Hoarding wealth. The great thing about doing healing work is that I no longer need to project my issues. I see things as they really are. I wish you the best.
@@HannahRebekah-l8o I definitely don't know everything, and I do a lot of my own research from source documents and first hand accounts wherever possible. So the answer to your question is that neither of those things are accurate. I believe in calling out harmful systems wherever they exist.
Well played! Very interesting because thier response says so much more than I think they intended. Keep up the great work!❤
Thank you for shining light so authentically! I like that you simply held up the ruler. Here is the definition of a high control group. Holding that ruler up to ourselves and the people around us is not an accusitory action. Curiosity and asking questions is a valuable healing tool! If you are highly offended or deeply uncomfortable at hearing this definition, then you must dig deeper, ask questions, and be curious. I think simply asking the question can lead toward growth and a journey toward peace. If you can't ask questions, if you can't be curious, then you are not in a healthy situation and you should strive for some change or growth. Whether it be escaping a bad situation or beginning an inner self improvement journey. Thank you for inspiring us!!
They are in a cult. Phil is the cult leader. Jeffrey is his right hand man.
Yep, they are cult leaders.
Thank you. Very enlightening and confirming.
They doth protest too much.
Ever been publicly accused falsely?
Tell me about that. If not, please defend this position.
Megan I admire your backbone and your courage and that you are standing your ground. In my opinion these so-called men of an unholy little god are probably getting their revelation from Satan. If their revelation is coming from the one true God of the Christian community they would be demonstrating a measure of humility. It’s all about edifying themselves and building a cult.
Such a great wealth of information. Thank you Megan!
The condescension, defensiveness and denial are staggering…they must be scared AF cause they know it’s true!!!You’re doing the right thing! 💯
Um… no.
@@MadeToBeBold LOL you must be one of the scared ones LOL
@@EE33339I’m certainly one of the ones falsely accused. Your characterization of being scared is inaccurate.
@@MadeToBeBold it’s ALLLLLLL a witch hunt…that’s what Lori Daybell, and Ruby Franke said too…the guilty usually say that 😌
you are soo smart and insightful. i learn from you.
You played that beautifully-well done. Thank you for your bravery and standing up to the bullies.
Excellent reporting as always. Thank you
Thank you Megan for standing up for truth in Maniputions of Religious Rabbithole people find themselves in! I pray the white light of love & protection over you & your path! I am proud of you!
Is lying through the thumbnail a manipulation?
Brilliant work Megan! Brave!
Why do all these make me cringe for our school... ( the regular public school all the kids go to...something is very wrong with our society ...
Thank you!! ❤
Keep digging Megan!! Love your work. Stay safe!!!🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Thank you for bringing the truth to the light. I really wish these middle aged (or older) white men would quit saying ‘I had near death experience and now I can speak to God.’ These words have very harmful consequences. (Obviously!) I am so happy to see you are using your voice for good.
You’re amazing Megan! ✨🙏🏼✨
The bottom line is that these groups are dangerous! I'm disappointed in how these men responded to your video. It did them absolutely no favors and made them look worse, and that's sad.
You’re disappointed that we would confront false allegations made by others through the broadcaster:
And why is that?
The bottom line is that you’re accepting generalities comforting to your paradigm and dismissing any possibility of nuance.
@MadeToBeBold I guess I'm disappointed in the response not being a seek to understand and help the broadcaster and viewers understand these mens true intentions. Rather than having more concern about their name. Honestly, I didn't remember the two names mentioned until the response video.
@@kristagardner8303frankly, you didn’t see the response: you heard a synopsis from Megan in this video. So no, you haven’t received the whole picture. And clearing one’s name of false charges is a legitimate desire.
Consider withholding and recanting your former judgment.
Poor Phil ...busted out as another false messiah. I think all these groups , covens, or whatever are,
dangerous and unhinged. You seem to have strick a nerve. He just outed himself. He must be seething and preaching.what a dark person you are at rhis very minute. Thank you for calling these folks out. Keep safe
Actually, he’s been very grateful for how cooperative Megan has been to our request… Megan can speak for herself of our conversation with her during the zoom we did and since, but having been present in discussion with him since, this is my account.
I wonder if you would self-reflect: you literally just did to him - ignorantly - what you suppose him to do: speaking ill, character judgement without knowledge, and demonization.
Maybe you’re part of the problem? Maybe you have a cult mentality?
Do not call them a coven. It's an insult to us witches.
@@MadeToBeBoldJust take your L and go home.
The voice and will of the Almighty does not require our explanation or defence. The defences made by the men challenged are self-serving.
I agree with you. I'm heading toward 63 years old & that's what I've seen in my life: Someone telling others that "god" speaks to them and so you need to listen to what they're saying because they now know what "god" wants from everyone. I've never known someone who actually really did talk to "god." I'm an atheist. I've never found any evidence that god actually exists. I also question the existence of Jesus Christ re whether he was a mythical person.
I love your ACCURATE Thumbnail👏
My Mom was an ex irish catholic nun. She left the convent with 24yo, moved to germany, married my dad and had bro and me. My Mom was very religious until the day she died. Nevertheless, my Mom told my brother and me whilst explaining "god" and faith bla bla, that people should never debate, argue or fight about "god". She said Your faith belongs to you alone. "God" is not factual, he/she is a belief, or not. I cant stand it when people talk about their gods in a complete factual notion. Because you can't!! Well done for not letting these two Cult members bully you to remove anything you posted on YOUR channel👍 They are probably flabbergasted that you, a mere woman, would not submit😱😂
Phil and Jeffery sound a lot like Jodi Hildebrand...just sayin".
How’s that? I’ve heard the name but I’m not sure what makes us equal with her.
@@MadeToBeBold Jeff, I'm sure you have heard the name, and it's easy to do the research. It won't take you long. I didn't say you were EQUAL to her, sounds like a guilty conscience.
@@lizpongratz9466it’s a variation on you “equating” us with her, which you did. Doesn’t have to necessarily be a 100% match to equate parties or situations.
Sounds like you’re reaching and eager to accuse. Ignorant and spurious accusations are a dime a dozen these days.
@@MadeToBeBold Jeff, variation is the key word in this exchange, not equating. Ignorant and spurious definitions are a dime a dozen these days, but it does look like you've done the research I suggested. Or perhaps you knew more than you originally let on. After scrolling through the comments to this video, I see that you have been busy. Be careful, it may start to look like your reaching...
I just watch under the banner of heaven...scary how people believe they thought rhey were hearing from God and could control others to do evil acts..so be careful and trust yourself..i dont know these people but you have a right to speak about your truth❤❤❤
Excellent video ; very informative 👌
Compliment to you that you ruffled their feathers!! 🪶 keep it up! You are ALWAYS informed and extremely articulate. Please keep this up we all admire what you are doing and keep yourself safe. ❤
Oh, Megan! Way to go! 🎉
Also portioning these out!!! Making better choices
🎯Great work on this Megan!
Thank you. Your lists need to read by all.
Some individuals in questionable groups proclaim many behaviors as addictions. True addictions need to be addressed very delicately. Normal and reasonable desires are not addictions.
1. Make sure the addict us relatively.
2. Have a general discussion. The addiction will probably come up.
3. Don't badger or make this person is wrong.
4. Ask around for possible resources. Not everyone can afford health care
Sounds like a couple of gaslighters to me...
Hmmm like they are going to admit they had “boys” groups with Daybell now after the trials 🙄 I watched his “sword of vengeance” videos um ok Jefferey trying to bully this intelligent woman who speaks truth
Oh I bet they resented it all
❤
Are they threatening to sue Megan for slander?
They did, yes.
That’s fair.
Wait... when were you in the DoC group? I dabbled with them for a few months. I ended up leaving them and the Mormon church as a whole 3 years ago. I'm now a Christian.
I was never in the group. They were upset that I lumped them in with Chad Daybell so we had a talk and I reported on it.
@Third_Verse I didn't make the connection until after I left.
I did buy Visions of Glory apparently though. I never read it, but when I saw Hidden True Crime taking about it, I looked it up and saw that I bought it in 2021, about the time I started meeting with them. I don't even remember buying it, but I found it with the Mormon books I tucked away in the basement when we left the church.
Wow! You are so strong and amazing! Such a politically correct and eloquent delivery of your response. I hope you don't mind, I'm going to send you an email. Your video really caught my attention regarding the facts of cults. Keep doing what you are doing... you are just amazing!
Please do!
🫂
Are the Daybells that Bartholomew did a video for related to Chad?
I don’t know
@@IzzyMariel no. Not related
@@OnForAfter TY for letting me know. I definitely did a double take when I saw it lol.
I was going to subscribe to this channel but not anymore. I am SO sorry for the abuse you have suffered Megan! I hope you get the help you need so you can stop projecting your issues onto religions that, although imperfect, are trying hard to follow Jesus Christ!
Jesus Christ was primarily concerned with caring for the poor and needy and marginalized people. The CoJCoLDS is more concerned with Hoarding wealth. The great thing about doing healing work is that I no longer need to project my issues. I see things as they really are. I wish you the best.
@@Third_Verse Are you being the Accuser of the Church…because you know everything or because someone told you that?
@@HannahRebekah-l8o I definitely don't know everything, and I do a lot of my own research from source documents and first hand accounts wherever possible. So the answer to your question is that neither of those things are accurate. I believe in calling out harmful systems wherever they exist.
You're going to get yourself sued. Hope you are making enough money from your channel for a good Tort Lawyer.
Why is the Mormon prophet on the thumbnail. He didn’t speak out to you. You should have Jeff or Phil there. A bit misleading.
Agreed. Sorry.
Because, @kimchpm , it's about Mormonism and yes, I hate to break it to you, but it's a Cult.