Controlling Light with High Voltage and Aniseed! The Kerr Effect!

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  • @Iris_and_or_George
    @Iris_and_or_George Год назад +18

    An intro that summarises the video in under 7 seconds and straight to content. What an awesome place YT would be if all creators would do this. Got my subscription!

  • @Nuovoswiss
    @Nuovoswiss Год назад +4

    The temperature discrepancy in freezing is how you purify it. It might indicate an impurity, but it might be slow nucleation. Some organic compounds are really finicky in crystalizing, try adding some of the solidified phase to supercooled liquid phase to act as seed crystals.
    As for the "stringers", anethole is not electrochemically inert (at those voltages, nothing is). If you pass current through it, you're generating biproducts. Look of electropolymerization of styrene. Anethole has that same double-bond, and that paper saw styerene polymerization at 2 volts, not 2000.

  • @tissuepaper9962
    @tissuepaper9962 Год назад +8

    The paraffin+petroleum jelly potting is a really cool idea. Most potting compounds are non-reversible, but you could easily melt out that wax without damaging anything if you needed to repair the circuit underneath. It's even better that you can buy the two ingredients ready to use at most grocery stores or any craft store.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +3

      Exactly. The original plan was to use mineral oil, but it would require a sealed container else the HV causes it to spray everywhere!

    • @christopherkarr1872
      @christopherkarr1872 Год назад +3

      I've always been a fan of wax vacuum-potting. A whole lot less messy than tar and, as you said OP, much less troublesome to repair than a sharp point breakout in epoxy. It's also generally better for the environment than most oils or tars, as well as less toxic to the user. It serves as an early-warning if a component is over-heating and, finally, wax being a solid (as opposed to a liquid oil) allows it to prevent outside detritus from interfering with normal function.

  • @BigJohn4516
    @BigJohn4516 Год назад +6

    30+ years ago, I worked at the US Bureau of Mines at the Bruceton research center. They had an antique high speed camera in a bombproof's control room. This camera could take 22 photos at a shutter speed of 2Mfps. The film was stationary and held around the perimeter of a partial circle. The camera had a rotating mirrored block in the centriod of the arch, a hollow coil which, when energized with a huge current, collapsed a foil tube to stop exposure, and a Kerr cell as a high speed shutter. I had the job of troubleshooting and repairing the ancient home brew trigger and shutter driver circuitry. It was a laborious and finicky task getting everything to work correctly and produce usable images. I still run across images from that camera here and there. I don't know what they had used in the Kerr cell, but it could be modulated at 2MHz.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      Sweet! Without a doubt it would be Nitrobenzene, for all its toxicity it gets the jobs done, and it will easily switch at megahertz speeds. That sure sounds like a very interesting setup!

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Год назад +17

    For high-speed switching, a simple spark gap should be a good start to create a fast edge. For ultra-short pulses, maybe some sort of transmission-line setup ?
    As those impurities seem to be attracted by the HV, I wonder if you could use this property to filter the solution

    • @TheTemporalAnomaly
      @TheTemporalAnomaly Год назад +3

      A spark gap driving a shorted quarter wave stub, near the shorted end, with the open end across the cell would be a simple way to get damped oscillations at a frequency determined by the stub. (well into Ghz) The stub would also provide the needed voltage step up function. Also, since it is the electric field were are interested in, I don`t suppose the electrodes need to be in contact with the liquid, maybe they could be just foil on the outer walls thus avoiding potential contamination from the electrodes.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      There is a diagram of a spark gap arrangement in one of the papers, but I have too much sensitive stuff on the bench at the moment. That is a great idea, like a precipitator of sorts...

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +4

      Also very interesting. I had not considered capacitively coupling in the field!

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 Год назад +1

      Make yourself a spiral line pulse generator with an appropriately sized inductor on the output in parallel with the Kerr cell. It can make extremely quick HV pulses of about 4nS risetime.

    • @wolpumba4099
      @wolpumba4099 Год назад +7

      There seems to be an easy way to purify using water and temperatures between 0 and 30degC:
      *Purification of Anethole by Crystallization: Summary*
      1. *Initial Preparation:* An aqueous emulsion of anethole is first prepared. The concentration of anethole can vary.
      2. *Cooling for Crystallization:* The emulsion is cooled to below the crystallization point, preferably around 0°C. Subzero temperatures can be used with antifreeze like methanol.
      3. *Crystal Separation:* After crystallization, the anethole crystals are separated from the aqueous emulsion.
      4. *Further Purification:* The crystals are reslurried with cold water and an emulsifier (potassium or sodium soap of tall oil fatty acid) or surfactant for further purification. This step can be repeated multiple times if needed.
      5. *Water Removal:* To remove residual water, the crystals are melted and water is separated at temperatures between 25-50°C.
      6. *Final Product:* The resulting anethole is highly purified, with reduced sulfur contaminants and excellent odor and taste.
      This process aims to increase the purity of anethole, which could potentially improve its performance in Kerr effect experiments.
      patents.google.com/patent/US4902850A/en

  • @HuygensOptics
    @HuygensOptics Год назад +24

    Thanks for this video, before I only knew the Kerr effect from Simple Mind concerts. BTW: we got very spoiled the last few days with videos about polarization effects, first 2 videos by 3B1B and now this one. Great work!

    • @zhinkunakur4751
      @zhinkunakur4751 Год назад +4

      Agreed , its high time polarization gets rekt in the public pool of understanding , this is coming since I believe polarization was a very niche curiosity not covered much

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +6

      Thanks! I have just watched 3B1B's video, that is spectacular! I never imagined you would see anything from the side of a sugar cell!

    • @mikepeterson9733
      @mikepeterson9733 Год назад +1

      Simple Minds, Jim Kerr -- I see what you did there! 😆

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +2

      Please, you all drop the crackpipe.

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +1

      Anyone making CLICKBAIT like you should be banned, fined and arrested. I'm blocking this channel. I wonder about the mental state of people liking this video or following this disrespectful channel.

  • @Brandon-rc9vp
    @Brandon-rc9vp Год назад +39

    Any day that I find a new Les' Lab or Huygens Optics video is a good one. Great topic, explanation, and demonstration!

    • @3.2213
      @3.2213 Год назад +2

      indeed

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +2

      I hope that "Les" is not the French article. Can this channel be even more sxtxuxpxixd?

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +1

      Anyone making CLICKBAIT like you should be banned, fined and arrested. I'm blocking this channel. I wonder about the mental state of people liking this video or following this disrespectful channel.

  • @hygri
    @hygri 4 месяца назад

    "A distressingly powerful organic solvent". Can confirm, and how beautifully put!

  • @wolpumba4099
    @wolpumba4099 Год назад +7

    *Introduction and Background*
    - Introduces the concept of controlling light using electric fields, focusing on the Kerr effect.
    - Discusses the historical background of the Kerr effect, discovered by John Kerr in 1857.
    - Explains the traditional use of high-voltage Kerr cells and their applications in high-speed photography.
    - Highlights the toxicity and dangers of commonly used liquid nitrobenzene in traditional Kerr cells.
    *Alternative to Nitrobenzene*
    - Discusses the difficulty in sourcing and safely working with nitrobenzene.
    - Identifies Anethole, a non-toxic alternative with a high Kerr constant, as a promising substitute.
    - Describes the molecular structure and properties of Anethole, a component of aniseed.
    *Experimental Setup*
    - Details the construction of a Kerr cell for testing Anethole, including sourcing and assembly.
    - Explains the need for polarizers and a high-voltage supply for the experiment.
    - Notes issues with the plastic lid of the Kerr cell being affected by Anethole.
    *Experiment and Results*
    - Demonstrates the completed Kerr cell using a homemade high-voltage supply.
    - Observes the Kerr effect using an LED and a camera setup.
    - Notes the presence of impurities in the Anethole used, suggesting the need for purification.
    - Tests the Kerr effect using a laser, finding it to be very prominent.
    *Conclusion*
    - Concludes that Anethole is a safe and effective substitute for nitrobenzene.
    - Suggests future work could include purifying Anethole and testing the speed of the Kerr cell.
    *Positive Findings*
    1. *Effective Substitute:* Anethole serves as a non-toxic and effective alternative to nitrobenzene for demonstrating the Kerr effect.
    2. *Prominent Effect:* The Kerr effect was clearly observable, especially when using a laser.
    3. *High Voltage Success:* The homemade high-voltage supply was capable of driving the Kerr cell effectively.
    4. *Safety:* Anethole is non-toxic, making it a safer option for experiments.
    5. *Affordable Setup:* The Kerr cell and other components were relatively inexpensive to source or build.
    *Negative Findings*
    1. *Impurities:* Some impurities were observed in the Anethole, which could affect the performance.
    2. *Material Compatibility:* The plastic lid of the Kerr cell was affected by Anethole, requiring a switch to a different material like Teflon.
    3. *Complex Setup:* While affordable, the setup required various components and some technical know-how.

    • @zhinkunakur4751
      @zhinkunakur4751 Год назад +1

      how does one follow you on youtube or facebook 🤣 coz you just got a new fan

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      @@zhinkunakur4751 Thanks, Sub on RUclips , I have a community Tab. I also have twitter: @LesLaboratory

    • @hamjudo
      @hamjudo Год назад

      @wolpumba4099 That is an excellent summary of the video. Do you do this for other videos? Do you publish them anywhere that is easily searchable?

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever Год назад +3

    This is some serious homebrew science. I love stuff like this. Thanks for posting the video.

  • @JoinTheTechnicians
    @JoinTheTechnicians Год назад +5

    Every time it just keeps getting better and better. Now you even have a rotary table camera setup to add that "total pro video" look, and we love it!

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Thanks! I have been thinking about getting one for a while 🙂

    • @JoinTheTechnicians
      @JoinTheTechnicians Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory Wait, does that mean you did it by hand? Im so impressed with your videos. and THANK YOU the the ceramic pulse capacitor info. That helped us so much, and now we have a micro battery powered TEA laser

    • @christopherkarr1872
      @christopherkarr1872 Год назад

      @@JoinTheTechnicians Did LesLab make a video about repotting ceramic capacitors in axial housings to improve voltage handling? Asking for a friend...the friend is me.

  • @campbellmorrison8540
    @campbellmorrison8540 Год назад +23

    As I understand the Kerr effect is based on the field not the voltage or current directly. So I'm wondering why the electrodes are immersed in the liquid, why not place them on the outside walls of the curvet? That way there is no current flowing through the liquid, maybe that causes the ribbons etc.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +13

      Yes, you are right, no current should flow in these, and building them in the glass walls might be quite convenient! The stringers I 'think' are because of impurities, however as Mike pointed out, this effect could be used to clean the solution by precipitating that junk out.

    • @spanqueluv9er
      @spanqueluv9er Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory Hey genius, that’s ^*star anise, not fuqqing (^*anise seed, not aniseed) ffs. How can you post a video with such a major and obvious mistake?🙄🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️💩💩🤡👎

  • @Drjtherrien
    @Drjtherrien Год назад +1

    Very very cool! Optical rotation of light is always interesting. Switchable effects even more so.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +2

      Absolutely, wrangling light is very cool.

    • @KallePihlajasaari
      @KallePihlajasaari Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory Was there a voltage that caused the light to start dimming again by rotating it too much?

  • @swabianscience
    @swabianscience Год назад +3

    By the way, even though it is very toxic, nitrobenzene smells absolutely great! It has an almond oil like odour, just a bit sweeter and softer than the benzaldehyde found there - probably the best smell of any chemical I've smelled so far, really unfortunate that it's so toxic

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Cool! I heard someone also say it smelled like boot polish. I will pass though! My workshop now smells of aniseed.

    • @swabianscience
      @swabianscience Год назад +1

      @@LesLaboratory Well, the difference to benzaldehyde is very small, especially when dilute, so if you know that you have a very good idea of nitrobenzene. In my opinion, pure benzaldehyde has a slight stingy artificial note that nitrobenzene lacks, but it's only obvious in a direct comparison.

    • @maxmustermann5353
      @maxmustermann5353 Год назад

      You make me curious. 😅

  • @ashleyobrien4937
    @ashleyobrien4937 Год назад +3

    I would imagine your conductivity breakdown is caused by water contamination, simply redistilling your anethole over a suitable drying agent will do the trick, to get it essentially dry you will have to use something stronger than typical lab drying agents, if you can source P2O5 that will work, or Sodium metal, a OTC attempt that would also work would be ripping open a Lithium AA battery, they have quite a long sheet of high quality Lithium metal in them, just work quickly and rinse the rolled up foil in some fresh dry hexane then added to your anethole, you won't need much Lithium to form the hydroxide, store the remainder over hexane, paraffin oil, etc. It really doesn't take much contamination with a trace of moisture to totally ruin the dielectric nature of your oil, just like it doesn't take much metal ion contamination to ruin the non conducting nature of pure water, the slightest hint is all it takes...

  • @dancollins1012
    @dancollins1012 Год назад +1

    Great video! Never would have guessed something organic in origin would have such a marvellous property. Keen to see other ways to switch light...

    • @EddieTheH
      @EddieTheH Год назад +1

      Organics generally do have the most interesting properties...

  • @WoodenWeaponry
    @WoodenWeaponry Год назад +1

    Amazing video Les! Reminds me of Applied Science's video about the same effect. RUclips has become a big source of inspiration I must say

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Thanks! Yeah I saw that, it was the Faraday effect in olive oil, very cool stuff!

  • @KymDerriman
    @KymDerriman 4 месяца назад

    Fantastic video as usual. Would love more on this, especially if it delves more into the physics of the Kerr effect.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  4 месяца назад

      Thanks! I think there is more that can be done here with Anethole (and perhaps others)

  • @karlharvymarx2650
    @karlharvymarx2650 Год назад +9

    The optical effect is really cool, but I'm also interested in those stringers and if the could be used to help purify the liquid by precipitating out the contaminates.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +4

      For sure, there have been several comments to that effect. I reckon it's worth a shot.

    • @brainretardant
      @brainretardant Год назад +1

      Look up isoelectric focusing. The current creates a natural gradient using natural buffers. The molecules will precip at neutral Ph point. Don't need the ribbons. You can do this easily with blood and it's proteins

  • @flaviospedalieri8707
    @flaviospedalieri8707 Год назад +2

    Very nice setup and demonstration of the Principle.. Love the Ceramic HV terminals you have implemented. The concept of using an alternative less toxic liquid is such a bonus as well.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +2

      Thanks! Yeah, the ceramic body has been in the parts box for years, and it was nice to be able to turn some terminals for it and put it to use!

  • @BreakingTaps
    @BreakingTaps Год назад +1

    Really neat effect, especially since it was done with a fairly pleasant-to-handle chemical! Great stuff as always!

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +2

      Thanks! It smells really nice (If you like aniseed!)!

  • @MassimoCappello
    @MassimoCappello 5 месяцев назад

    As you always say: that' absolutely fantastic!!!

  • @maxmustermann5353
    @maxmustermann5353 Год назад +3

    "Without dying"
    Yeah, let's keep it that way. We want to keep enjoying your content. 👍

  • @jonbigman9723
    @jonbigman9723 Год назад +1

    You have two effects going off there.
    One is a plasma effect of lensing when concentrated as you are doing between the electrodes from the very high voltage.
    The next effect is one of the additive you are using. It is crystalizing and then dielectrically orienting itself between the two electrodes. You can see if wiggling up and down like it is being vibrated and oriented between the electrodes (strings). This also has a lensing or focusing effect as well and shortens the path between the light source and the camera via the crystalized aniseed extract you are using, which is a sort of diffuser based on it's crystalline structure.
    The trick with the polarizers is an excellent way to use a light source and illuminate the targets between the plates without having to filter out the led source light for the camera.
    There have been many interesting experiments like this done just with seeds and high voltages. The seeds will jump up and down as they ferry charge back and forth between the electrodes. Much like the crystals are doing between your plates. This can be likened to lcd technology as well as the voltage controls the orientation of the crystals to make a shutter effect.
    That is what I get from this presentation.
    Nice presentation!

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 Год назад

      It's nothing to do with crystallising, it is a property of some liquids and solids, so the effect cannot be to do with any phase change. What is happening is that the high field strength distorts some of the bonds in the molecular structure causing it to rotate the plane of rotation of the light source.

  • @lordofelectrons4513
    @lordofelectrons4513 Год назад +5

    Excellent as usual. I recall seeing a Nitro Benzene Kerr cell described in a even old at the time issue of Scientific American Armature Scientist
    back in the late 1960. It was part of a high speed photography project. If I recall correctly the light source was an exploding wire and a high
    voltage switch made from a modified rat trap . Your setup is by far safer and more practical.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      Thanks! I read those articles as well. I think with a bit of refinement, some interesting experiments could be done on this!

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +1

      Excellent CLICKBAIT.

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +1

      Crackhead

    • @suprememasteroftheuniverse
      @suprememasteroftheuniverse Год назад +1

      Anyone making CLICKBAIT like you should be banned, fined and arrested. I'm blocking this channel. I wonder about the mental state of people liking this video or following this disrespectful channel.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot Год назад +1

    Do the electrodes really need to be embedded in the liquid, or would the voltage potential still have an effect even without closing the circuit?

  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en Год назад +1

    Such a weird use for Star Anise / Aniseed, and I love Ouzo, so makes me want some haha 😛
    Cool stuff.

  • @joejane9977
    @joejane9977 Год назад

    was worth my time to watch great info

  • @jonathanlister5644
    @jonathanlister5644 Год назад

    Great stuff! When I was a lad I used to avidly read the amateur scientist column , dreaming of a pulsed nitrogen laser in my bedroom! It never came to pass but you are doing it with flair! I went on to study Natural Philosophy at the University of Glasgow where they had a museum of Kelvins apparatus I remember being fascinated by his Kerr cell.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Me too! I have not been to the museum, but I will some day! It's the Hunterian right?

    • @jonathanlister5644
      @jonathanlister5644 Год назад

      Yes which is in the main building, the Gilbert Scott building where they have a good deal of interest but also in the departments own building where you would be welcome to have a look round they are very happy for interested folks to visit.@@LesLaboratory

    • @jonathanlister5644
      @jonathanlister5644 Год назад

      Also on Professor Square house No1 where you can see one of Kelvin's clocks it's a masterpiece but last time I checked it was needing some tender care.

  • @fusion9619
    @fusion9619 Год назад +1

    Instructions unclear. Accidentally created a lightsaber.

  • @GeoffryGifari
    @GeoffryGifari Год назад +1

    The electrodes are immersed in the anethol liquid? at that high voltage you don't see ionization and discharge?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      Yes, they are immersed. Anethole has relatively high dielectric strength, however if you push it too hard, breakdown can occur.

  • @zilipoper
    @zilipoper Год назад

    Hello, this is your channel, absolutely fantastic) I watched all the videos FIRE

  • @VariacManiac
    @VariacManiac Год назад

    Thanks for showing this, that's cool! This is simply what RUclips is for.

  • @TheTablet314
    @TheTablet314 Год назад +1

    Very cool video!
    Are you interested in optimizing the performance of that device? To see what kind of transmission, modulation contrast and what speeds can be reached?
    Sidenote: Can't you use the exact same electrical setup for a pockels cells too? Specifically, with your KDP crystals?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +3

      I think Anethole is worth seriously exploring. There is very little about it in the literature. It would be interesting to characterize it.
      Pockels cells are way more efficient and require much lower voltages. I already have some hardware on the way to cut and mount the KDP.

  • @greenaum
    @greenaum Год назад

    Actually turning light on and off! That's really good! (ssssh! nobody tell him, he'll be heartbroken.) Good work, now we can get some sleep, oh yes.

  • @andrewnelson8093
    @andrewnelson8093 Год назад

    distilling liquid death. love that

  • @dalenassar9152
    @dalenassar9152 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks MUCH for the information on Anethole. Your "Verdet constant" (I think that's close to the name) seemed very impressive. I have experimented with audio modulation, and had planned on using Nitro-benzene [C6H5NO3] ! AND thanks for refreshing my memories of the horrors of C6H5NO3. Since high school, and an article in "The Amateur Scientist" in "Scientific American" I have collected, built, and put together a working Kerr cell experiment. I even have a Brewster window HeNe so I only need one polarizer. It worked good enough...BUT...I actually have two 500ml factory-sealed bottles of C6H5NO3. Since I got them several years ago, I was suddenly afraid to un-seal them. NOW, this video clinched it for me...I'm sure!! I won't even touch the glass bottles without gloves! It's just not worth the "liquid death" risk! The bottles are safely protected.
    I'm just looking for a safe way to dispose of them...any ideas?
    THANKS MUCH again.
    --dAle

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  7 месяцев назад

      Kerr constants for these, and yep, pretty high. Ah, the Sci am articles were the best, it's a shame they don't do them any more.
      I think your local waste disposal can handle any nasty chemicals for you.
      Yhanks, you are welcome!

  • @devrim-oguz
    @devrim-oguz Год назад

    We use that flower in Turkish Rakı (Alcoholic drink), which also turns white when you add water in it

  • @foramagasobeselettucepurpl6911

    I'm not sure what I just watched, but it was pretty cool!😀

  • @TheTubejunky
    @TheTubejunky Год назад

    Love the HighVoltage power supply. Any links to the equipment. I have an old ZVS Ive made years ago by hand but wouldn't mind having a W.k multiplier.

  • @nonchip
    @nonchip Год назад

    bit of a dumb question maybe but: why is this not considered an LCD? also why does this even work if it's not an LCD and it uses 2 polarizers but the Kerr effect influences the refractive index instead of polarisation angle?

  • @815TypeSirius
    @815TypeSirius Год назад

    So this is why Scene from Arknights has a little aniseed hair pin. Neat.

  • @dalrob9969
    @dalrob9969 Год назад

    Les, try a 100 meg-ohm resistor to start, (you may need to tweek the resistance up or down to find the sweet spot ), connect it across the kerr cell electroids, It may arrest the voltage enough so that the stray impurities won't discharge after you shut it down so it turns the photons all the way off on their axis. Something I tried decade's ago that worked with N.B. I also used "Moth Balls" diluted in methanol. Be very careful. I like this chemistry your using for his project.
    I am: Dale Robertson.

  • @avenuex3731
    @avenuex3731 Год назад

    Lovely demo

  • @simontillson482
    @simontillson482 Год назад +1

    Lovely video. I do have to point out one thing though… the thumbnail shows Star Anise, not Aniseed. The former is a resinous tree seedpod, the latter is the seed of a small flowering plant. Common mistake.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Thanks! Artistic licence 😉 star anise, aniseed and others all contain anethole.

  • @sandorkonya
    @sandorkonya Год назад

    Super video as always!

  • @TheRainHarvester
    @TheRainHarvester Год назад

    You filter out the solids that form? Easy way to purify?

  • @ParedCheese
    @ParedCheese Год назад

    A use for Anusol I'd never suspected! 😮

  • @GaryMcKinnonUFO
    @GaryMcKinnonUFO Год назад

    Quite a large change in apparent magnitude too. I'm wondering if the stuff that appeared in the LED experiment is simiar to when they use lasers to grow crystals ?

  • @jmssun
    @jmssun Год назад +1

    Spice can control space, time and light

  • @timjx3675
    @timjx3675 Год назад

    Super cool, love your style !

  • @totalrecone
    @totalrecone Год назад

    High voltage tends to emit better from pointed sources so it's my guess those "stringers" observed could be caused by surface imperfections on the electrodes. Highly polishing those electrode surfaces might reduce the stringers substantially.

  • @markiangooley
    @markiangooley Год назад +1

    You don’t have to use star anise. Regular anise, traditionally used in Europe, might be more practical. They aren’t related but they produce similar chemicals. Both have anethole.
    People nowadays seem to think that only star anise exists and other anise doesn’t. I saw a version of an ancient Roman recipe that was made with star anise even though probably Romans never used it.

  • @dennis8196
    @dennis8196 Год назад

    Interesting choice of insulation. If im not mistaken both paraffin wax and petroleum jelly are flammable under certain conditions, eg when warm they soften and vapourise at low temperatures, and have a low flashover temperature.
    Wouldnt a better. Choice be epoxy resin or similar?

  • @usvalve
    @usvalve Год назад

    Until today, I only knew of the Kerr Cell in connection with John Logie Baird, who used it to modulate light in television receivers. I don't know if he used the appalling nitrobenzene, but I believe he used grid electrodes to reduce the control voltage needed (and renamed it the Baird Grid Cell!) I'm surprised he didn't try a mechanical shutter to modulate light! If you can make "Phonovision" recordings on a 78, you must be able to move a diaphragm at the highest frequency needed.

  • @1kreature
    @1kreature Год назад

    Wonderfull research!
    I wonder if the used anethol can be purified by filtering since the "stringers" appear as a solid once cell has been run?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Possibly. Mikes Electric stuff suggested this as well. It might be possible to just create a setup to electrically precipitate out the garbage.

  • @Indie9999
    @Indie9999 Год назад

    So what's inside a kerr cell shutter on a high speed camera? What's the medium? Do they just go straight for nitrobenzene?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      As far as I know, they just use Nitrobenzene.

  • @Youtubuxian
    @Youtubuxian Год назад

    Great video! You may be interested in Mie Scattering. In particular, you can use lasers to measure the particles in both a liquid as well as air. Industrially, they use lasers to measure particle size and counts for clean-rooms. Industry typically has two topologies - diffraction, and a reflection/scattering method. You can even pick up a sensor for $30 or so from sensirion now.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Cool, I will look those up! On my dream list isban external cavity He-Ne for particle counting, but the are darned expensive!

    • @Youtubuxian
      @Youtubuxian Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory If you find yourself in need of some electronics, 3D CAD, or software help look me up. I'm working on some precision amplifiers and electronics to support some instruments so happy to help in whatever capacity if it supports your cause. Thanks again for the videos!

    • @ashleyobrien4937
      @ashleyobrien4937 Год назад

      yeah, I used to work with a Malvern laser particle analyzer, Mie theory, back scattering, all part of the system, I actually built a totally new dispersion unit for Dairy powders, and Malvern came out to see it. 100 k for the machine, nice toy that was...

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory They can be found surprisingly cheap sometimes, I have four of them (all 25mW +) and paid less than 150 pounds for any of them, some including power supplies.

  • @PJFunnyBunny-yl7co
    @PJFunnyBunny-yl7co Год назад

    Awesome channel! I subbed and thank you!

  • @GaryMcKinnonUFO
    @GaryMcKinnonUFO Год назад

    Very cool indeed !

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 Год назад

    Interesting, but it doesn't seem to offer much apparent advantage over some type of liquid crystal light shutter.

  • @danielpetka446
    @danielpetka446 Год назад

    Very valuable, I have to try this out myself! Unlike in the Faraday effect, the rotation of light is due to birefringence, right? So you can generate circular light with this. Does it mean that, just with waveplates (fast axis, slow axis), if you rotate the laser so that it's polarisation is parallel to the electrodes, the light won't be rotated?

  • @testboga5991
    @testboga5991 Год назад

    A wonderful video! Thank you

  • @lambda4931
    @lambda4931 6 месяцев назад

    Interesting! Thank you. I thought the Kerr Effect changed the refractive index rather than the polarization.

  • @SeanDriver
    @SeanDriver Год назад

    Nice share….what is the field intensity in that cell?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +2

      Thanks! The applied voltage is 26kV and the gap is 4mm, so 6500v/mm or 6.5MV/M

  • @Pooua
    @Pooua Год назад

    If anethole is non-toxic *and* has an even higher kerr constant than the liquid death now being used, why hasn't anethole replaced nitrobenzene? Either of those mentioned properties seems like sufficient reason to switch, but both are combined!

  • @repairitdontreplaceit
    @repairitdontreplaceit 5 месяцев назад

    hi les . we use eom at work to modulate mp lasers they are fluid filled and have two xtal / glass rods inside . are they kerrs cells ?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  5 месяцев назад

      It is not likely. The Kerr effect is more or less a curiosity these days, there are more efficient materials. For Modulators and Q-switches the Pockels effect is used (Lithium Niobate), or the Acousto-Optical effect (Tellurium Dioxide or similar materials)

  • @GIRGHGH
    @GIRGHGH Год назад

    If the effect is stronger and it's much less toxic, I'm very curious why it's not the more commonly used one. Is it worse in some other way?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      I don't think the effect is as strong as with nitrobenzene, and I lack the analytical equipment to test it. It could be for two reasons: The kerr effect is more or less a curiosity now, given there are pockels cells available that are far more practical. Secondly (related to the first), I have only found a single reference to the Kerr value of Anethole anywhere in the literature, so perhaps, as these cells fell into dis-use interest in research dwindled.

  • @tanner3801
    @tanner3801 Год назад

    Interestingly enough, I recently discovered the peculiar attributes of anise extract, while making root beer. Indeed, it did not want to mix with water, and caused a bit of a light foggy appearance as it was mixed in. It also seemed to precipitate something onto the stainless spoon I used to measure it.
    Intriguing!
    Another parameter that would be interesting to test, aside from the behavior at high switching frequencies, would be the linearity and precision of the polarity change per volt, from 0-360 degrees (if you can achieve that within the breakdown voltage of the kerr cell, or before leakage significantly hampers the linearity).

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      interesting. Yes, I want to try and properly characterize the cell, and derive the kerr constant. for that I need to properly purify the anethole.

    • @zordinance
      @zordinance Год назад

      Thank you!

  • @stevengill1736
    @stevengill1736 Год назад

    Very cool! I'd read about Kerr cells in laser literature, but never seen one in operation - great power supply too.
    When I was a kid nitrobenzene was still used comercially, and the overpowering near-almond smell was characteristic and penetrating - anethole is definitely nicer. Cheers...

    • @Liberty4Ever
      @Liberty4Ever Год назад

      I thought I recalled nitrobenzene used as an ingredient in glow plug engine fuel for R/C cars when I was a 1970s teenager. When the toxicity was mentioned in the video, I did an internet search and determined that the "nitro" that's in glow plug engine fuel is nitromethane... but was that always the case? When I was a kid, I'd roll mercury around in the palm of my hand because room temperature liquid metal is cool.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Thanks! Someone said reminiscent of boot polish, but it became unobtainium here after the '80's The anethole smells strongly of Aniseed, which I quite like.

    • @Liberty4Ever
      @Liberty4Ever Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory - I need to get some star anise to make chili oil for Asian cooking. Who knew it could be used to polarize light? Gotta love science.

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 Год назад

      @@Liberty4Ever As you say, it's nitromethane and has been as far back as I can find (late 1940s when glow engines were first available).

  • @mishkamcivor409
    @mishkamcivor409 Год назад

    I never thought I'd hear a solvent described as "distressingly powerful" heh

  • @pattheplanter
    @pattheplanter Год назад

    Could the solid be from polymerisation? Anethole is similar to styrene. Add an electron and that will react fast. The impurities may be initiating the reaction. However, is the double bond on the side chain necessary for the Kerr effect? Could you hydrogenate to dihydroanethole?

  • @zedmike
    @zedmike Год назад

    Why is your homemade powersupply with 45KV measured in amperes?

  • @thorjohnson5237
    @thorjohnson5237 Год назад

    That's pretty cool... is the same effect (kerr) what's active in a LCD, just longer, so lower voltage, but because longer/less springy, it's slower? What's the kerr on sugar? Can I alter the twistyness with electricity or am I just gonna make an electrolysis mess?

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 Год назад +1

      An LCD relies on movement of the crystals in the liquid crystal, it's a mechanical process which is why LCDs are relatively slow. Sucrose, and possibly other sugars, exhibit the effect in solidus, but you'll need to grow some decent crystals to try it and somehow prevent them from hydrating.

  • @jezmy2006
    @jezmy2006 Год назад

    If those "stringers" are solid impurities, could you use a small pump and circulate the fluid through a fine filter to remove it? You'd need to do it slowly to avoid air bubbles and turbulence I would think, though 🙂

  • @keghnfeem4154
    @keghnfeem4154 6 месяцев назад

    Does the angle of reffraction change with voltage?

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 Год назад

    Remember a kerr cell filled with mononitrobenzene at a laser lab, the stuff is extremely nasty. I prefer pockles cells made with benign lithium niobate though.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      For sure! It's a shame nobody is using Anethole as a substitute, but mentions of it in the literature are sparse. Pockels cells are superior in almost every respect, but I really like trying things out.

  • @oomwat6101
    @oomwat6101 Год назад +2

    The Kerr effect was originally published by John's brother Joe ... but nobody took him seriously :D

  • @QIKUGAMES-QIKU
    @QIKUGAMES-QIKU Год назад

    Have you covered the Blue laser of Hawaii at all ?

  • @joinedupjon
    @joinedupjon Год назад

    4:42 The Ouzo effect - no doubt named after its discoverer, Joe Ouzo

  • @florinpetrache7834
    @florinpetrache7834 Год назад

    does it work with pure essential oil of Star Anise Illicium verum, or is the substance different?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      I have not tried. I first tried with Ouzo essence but no observable effect. It may be worth a try.

  • @rotten-Z
    @rotten-Z Год назад +2

    Very interesting and informative video. I believe that the same construction that you created to demonstrate the Kerr effect can be used to clean the solution. If a solution is slowly passed between two electrodes under voltage, the contaminants must remain between the electrodes, forming "threads" between the electrodes, and you will have a purified liquid at the output. I wish you success in your experiments.

  • @Dr_Mario2007
    @Dr_Mario2007 Год назад

    Interesting LCD effect with the liquid (and you could say that modern LCDs are basically efficient low voltage Kerr cells all things considered), at the same time, Kerr effects slows down in liquid (and electrodes not as closely spaced, as capacitance can affect it also), while it's massively faster in solid state Kerr cells. Planning on using it to Q-switching a laser?

  • @ashleyobrien4937
    @ashleyobrien4937 Год назад

    Yes, nitrobenzene is a strange beast, as a solvent for certain reactions it is unsurpassed, it also does some very weird things to plants, seeds specially treated with nitrobenzene show highly accelerated growth, of course that's not directly useful because the seedlings are TOXIC...actually, a similar effect can be seen in humans who use dinitrophenol, it has the effect of making cell membranes too leaky, ions leak out, so the cells use shitloads of ATP (energy) to pump the ions back in ! this has the effect of ultra rapid weight loss, a very dodgy way to drop tons of weight in record time. In fact, in the last century, workers at explosives factories (TNT, Picric acid etc.) were always quite thin, due to exposure to nitrobenzene...

  • @dandeeteeyem2170
    @dandeeteeyem2170 Год назад

    ... How utterly delightful 😂❤

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif Год назад

    I made a Kerr cell out of nitrobenzene a few years back. I didn't know that it just plain dissolves polycarbonate. I ended up spilling quite a bit of it as it at through that cell. Its nowhere near as dangerous as people make it out to be. This is more one of those "you don't want to be chronically exposed to it" kinds of things. Thorlabs makes some long-path quartz cuvettes that I use now.
    Its incredibly difficult to find something that can shutter light at nanosecond timescales and sane voltages other than nitrobenzene.

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад

      Yeah, benzenes are pretty good at dissolving things. Still, I wouldnt want to be exposed to the stuff, and in my house at the moment, its just too much of a liability. Anetholebis harmless.
      For sure. Anethole is a litte larger than nitrobenzene, but still, it would be interesting to try it out.

    • @htomerif
      @htomerif Год назад

      @@LesLaboratory It would be interesting to try recrystallizing it to get the purity up but even though its melting point is 20C, these oily aromatics are notoriously hard to crystallize.
      Like you said, there's probably a lot of other junk in it from anything other than an analytical source. I'm assuming most of what you can buy is just straight steam distilled and that's it. maybe heated to remove the water.

  • @BurkenProductions
    @BurkenProductions Год назад

    So in practicallity what is it good for?

  • @UnKnown-xs7jt
    @UnKnown-xs7jt Год назад

    Fascinating

  • @richardlilley6274
    @richardlilley6274 Год назад

    Not got a clue how it works
    But thanks for sharing

  • @justin.campbell
    @justin.campbell Год назад +1

    I would love to see you build a high speed driver, there is a lot that goes into the design of something like that and lots to learn!

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon5148 Год назад +1

    Pro tip: You can also switch the LED on and off directly.
    😏

  • @neuroblossom
    @neuroblossom Год назад

    my friend you have a way with words

  • @legionjames1822
    @legionjames1822 Год назад

    What conclusions can we draw from this experiment? Why does it work

  • @MrRockstar1968
    @MrRockstar1968 Год назад

    What would such a laser light be used for?

  • @Moletrouser
    @Moletrouser Год назад

    2:04 - “The toxicity of nitrobenzene cannot be understated”; that is not what you meant; it is _easy_ to understate its toxicity. For example: “Nitrobenzene is moderately toxic”; job done.

  • @Дми́трийВикторович-о3с

    Nitrobenzene sounds like some death-metal track name.

  • @ubza1234
    @ubza1234 Год назад

    Is this effect related to LCD screens?

    • @LesLaboratory
      @LesLaboratory  Год назад +1

      Yes, it is related, but Liquid crystals react far slower than the traditional Kerr effect.

  • @Yezpahr
    @Yezpahr Год назад

    Science good enough to drink.

  • @theGraphicAutist
    @theGraphicAutist Год назад

    what the pho? u can control light with your anis? amazing!

  • @detritic
    @detritic Год назад

    Seriously, is there anything better than fun scientific uses of secondary metabolites