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  • @datohleonggez
    @datohleonggez  Год назад +35

    guys! sign up and try to beat the rank 1 guy on every monthly tournament rpt.gg/dotahleondota2
    wait.. why is the link called datohleon 🤨

    • @armanillo4695
      @armanillo4695 Год назад +1

      I wish you didn't promote this dogshit betting service that promotes people to be bad actors in games in order to win some money

    • @alexreiner2658
      @alexreiner2658 Год назад +1

      when is the correct time to take talent?

    • @onebaliwgg8206
      @onebaliwgg8206 Год назад

      can you make item and skill guide for this? like torte guide

  • @null5241
    @null5241 Год назад +155

    Babe, wake up, datoh uploaded a new vid

  • @arsenusthearsenalswagus4200
    @arsenusthearsenalswagus4200 Год назад +49

    This will less likely work if you dont have a friend that will help you lane and farm safer. Random people will outright refuse to help you lane or farm when you pick like that, because they rather believe youre throwing than believe that you are serious with your pick.

    • @vio55
      @vio55 Год назад

      then just play mid and pretend u are a drow mid

  • @eiatot6455
    @eiatot6455 Год назад +28

    I recommend casting Coldsnap before Tornado so you secure some extra stuns frames for the Meteor to land, this frames can sometimes be used by the victim to avoid a big chunk of the combo.
    Also there are basically 4 different ways to cast Deafening Blast after Tornado by changing the angle but mostly the timing you can make the Def Blast push the enemy Forwards ( without thinking, enemies taking about 80% max dmg out put, this will be affected by the enemy move speed ), Backwards ( if too early and you make them hit it with its tail ), Perfectly synced & aligned with the Meteor's rolling ( if still affected by Coldsnap, this will most likely be the case but you need to mind the timing ) or as a Cross section if u dont have access to Coldsnap and need to compensate for the enemies' most probable scape route.

    • @miglehp4592
      @miglehp4592 8 месяцев назад

      he casts coldsnap after tornado but before the tornado projectile lands, meaning he gets more uptime from the coldsnap while still getting the first stun as soon as they land from the tornado.

    • @eiatot6455
      @eiatot6455 8 месяцев назад

      @@miglehp4592 CS first tick secures obvious or forced tornados, else people can react with a force staff.
      What u are saying is good but it all depends on what u need to prioritize

  • @protkeyt
    @protkeyt Год назад +20

    Man, I knew this was doable but it had to have a specific early build and behavior.
    THANK YOU 💕

  • @bloppdota2
    @bloppdota2 Год назад +61

    i played nearly exactly that item build on invoker 10 years ago back in dota 1 & only used forged spirits/meteor/alacrity & sometimes sunstrike😄

    • @Gabriel.Q
      @Gabriel.Q Год назад +25

      Don't forget the alacrity cold snap + MOM build. That shit was broken once upon a time

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +15

      invoker's recent talents made him a beast at carrying

    • @yoink9148
      @yoink9148 Год назад +1

      back in the day its bad, its only good now because of the changes and talents that amps his orbs.

    • @mrhs-oe4mu
      @mrhs-oe4mu Год назад +1

      ​@@yoink9148 invoker hitter build is so common back days 😅 you just need to set up with ghost walk and buy mom + bkb/orchid + cold snap + forge spirit

    • @mirceadanila865
      @mirceadanila865 9 месяцев назад +1

      This type of voker was op since dota 1 days, when i also played ss+ fs + exort + alacrity and buriz + mom + ac..good old 10+ years old s**t

  • @jhdivina
    @jhdivina Год назад +144

    Wish more people played dota. This channel is underrated af

    • @Theresnoname8876
      @Theresnoname8876 Год назад +6

      wow new invoker playstyle(open steam friendlist)
      My Friendlist:3999days online ago

    • @amamamiamh1619
      @amamamiamh1619 Год назад +9

      Game is dying, not newcomer friendly as well, old player have that toxic mentality...
      Unfortunately that'll kill people in long term

    • @MinesCafeOHG
      @MinesCafeOHG Год назад

      @@amamamiamh1619 part of it is from "forfeit in captain mode only" so all pick or ranked, hostage in fountain farming and "comeback is real", not everyone likes sweaty ass games every single time believing there's a chance

    • @sobbiess
      @sobbiess Год назад +7

      I am a new player that joined 3 weeks ago, I can tell you about newcomer POV.
      - Game is toxic
      - Everyone is spamming annoying voice messages
      - Everyone inside is already quite experienced with the game and I got rekted most of the time
      - Why is there no vote based surrender like League? (Especially when DotA takes longer to end a game)

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina Год назад +5

      @sobbiess there is a mute option, which i find helpful to make my games less toxic. Also, i don't come across much toxicity, and i play in SEA. Just mute the noisy ones and play your game.

  • @kaelxeth
    @kaelxeth Год назад +18

    This was quite popular years ago, especially with the AC - Forge Spirit right click is underated, back then we used to build basilus just to strengthen the spirits, nice content as always!

    • @beoptimal8650
      @beoptimal8650 Год назад +4

      forge spirits+necrobook+forcestaff

    • @kaelxeth
      @kaelxeth Год назад

      @@beoptimal8650 good old days, where invoker is a furion with spells

  • @pramadanaagsha3943
    @pramadanaagsha3943 Год назад +56

    You know you make a good content when i only see your video popped on my feed and i already start smiling. Good job datoh!

  • @kuysrengkuo7042
    @kuysrengkuo7042 Год назад +5

    He is like the Ph. D of dota writing a paper about hero and skills. Intro, theory and example, evidence and conclusion. Win or lose, he proved it convincingly.

  • @natosen
    @natosen Год назад +15

    You know something is wrong if you play in SEA but everyone are nice to you

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +4

      ikr, i expect to hvae ppl flame me but most people trust me idk why

  • @tobovikiho1538
    @tobovikiho1538 Год назад +6

    Tat first pick got me 🤣🤣🔥 lucky u!!

  • @Kuantatmeng709394
    @Kuantatmeng709394 Год назад

    So much fun seeing this type of invo again, last time i have a friend that play the exact playstype but still midlane, rushing sb, burize, bkb, skadi and AC, and cold snap alacrity is his friend, it was fun seeing him melting the opponents, just that us supports have to play all the fat heroes

  • @kuro91000
    @kuro91000 Год назад +13

    1. Watch this video
    2. Gets hype
    3. Find match
    4. Feed
    5. Get reported
    This is me every time DATOHLEONG post a new video.

  • @eyriemalevoire
    @eyriemalevoire Год назад +7

    I did play invoker safe lane back then. It was on 1-4-4 build that has Madness and Crystalys, with Alacrity and Cold Snap to start team fight, you just right click stuff.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +1

      that's unlikely to work now, double forge too valuable 😅

    • @alexkroeger4113
      @alexkroeger4113 Год назад +1

      it could work if you have your support to stack for you, so you can take it with meteor and deafening blast.
      if you want to fight, you can buy Diffusal blade and use ghostwalk, it's fast bcs of Wex. Diffu > Meteor > Alacrity would be enough. You don't wanna use Cold snap bcs it's bad at lvl 1 Quas.
      you keep farming until you get gleipnir. After this everything is the same regular invoker.

    • @orven_lou
      @orven_lou Год назад

      1-4-4 is not a good build, double forge will always be better not to mention cold snap with lvl 1 quas is too weak

  • @gandammuu4063
    @gandammuu4063 Год назад +1

    my friend use to play invoker like this back in dota 1, he goes helm of dominator to bring cents and lifesteal then buriza for damage then cuirass and deso for armor melter

  • @danver555
    @danver555 Год назад

    This is crazy! ^^ Im gonna try this build rn

  • @justinlavelle9353
    @justinlavelle9353 Год назад

    was looking for some tips on my void vs ember mid....that was like 6 vids ago. love your stuff m8. your videos i mean o.o;

  • @roy-ic8ok1dt4f
    @roy-ic8ok1dt4f Год назад +5

    I had to say I love your videos! they are super funny and helped me get from 2k to 4k mrr

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +8

      thank god cuz most ppl will say they lose after using it haha

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger Год назад

      Imagine being 4k mmr lol your so bad noob 😊

  • @gamingpapajohn
    @gamingpapajohn Год назад +2

    You deserve way more than 95k subs dude.

  • @rifwann
    @rifwann Год назад +2

    This is how i play it first time, its morphling but simpler.. i was afraid to do it again due to the pubs expectation.

  • @bxrxxy
    @bxrxxy Год назад

    5:04 tide be like: heeey, be careful man!

  • @Philosjutsu
    @Philosjutsu Год назад

    I remember using this a long time ago. I remember using Eul's to shore up the combo and give bonus move speed for regen. I tell people invoker can basically play any role. Noobs don't know.

  • @onixforrealnow
    @onixforrealnow Месяц назад

    10:40 that chess simp collab is crazy

  • @teddyfot692
    @teddyfot692 Год назад +3

    long time fan here, datoleong have you tried boots of bearing? its perfect with certain matchup on invoker + synergy with forge spirit. You should check it out with enemies who likes to slow

  • @Moins
    @Moins Год назад

    Great content, keep it up

  • @aysargha
    @aysargha Год назад

    nice plays. commenting for the algorithm

  • @haihi877
    @haihi877 Год назад +10

    I don't know who you are but your vids keep showing and I always click every single one of em.
    Not only you're entertaining to watch, you're actually very good at the game.
    +1 fan

  • @lukestclairmaitland3003
    @lukestclairmaitland3003 Год назад +7

    I had very little success with your SF offlane idea, but im 2-0 so far with this build with most hero dmg both games. 500 games on invo is also helping ;D

  • @ursa81
    @ursa81 Год назад

    Thanks for the video

  • @lolmoe
    @lolmoe Год назад

    Right click invoker is underrated. His physical attacks hurt so much with just the alacrity and forged spirits.

  • @azy3929
    @azy3929 Год назад +1

    Good guide on voker

  • @nowalk7590
    @nowalk7590 Год назад

    LET'S GOOOOO!!! NEW DATOH VIDEO!!

  • @pSyberGamin
    @pSyberGamin Год назад

    Whats your take on witch blade? It provides mana att speed and works well with cold snap

  • @alexmurraypreece7405
    @alexmurraypreece7405 Год назад

    Well thanks for this I just had my invoker go 0-8 as pos1 in my game :D

  • @jangofficial1571
    @jangofficial1571 Год назад

    Right Click build is here..love it🤭

  • @jacktruong7151
    @jacktruong7151 Год назад

    Very entertaining to watch, just don't let my future teammates see this xD

  • @JohnSancti
    @JohnSancti Год назад

    7:58 when you wololoo enemy Tusk and is your side now...

  • @nathan2964
    @nathan2964 Год назад +2

    Now im inspired to play pos1 invoker in my ranks and ruin my team’s day :)))) tnx for the content

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад

      nOOO its play to win! 😅

    • @nathan2964
      @nathan2964 Год назад

      @@datohleonggez bro the problem is, not every player has the same lvl of game skills you have to win these games XD
      But yeah I understand ure doing it for content. Im a fan!

  • @Troubledsham
    @Troubledsham Год назад

    Very cool drow ranger build.

  • @towfuuu
    @towfuuu Год назад

    this is good content ! xD

  • @loz1610
    @loz1610 Год назад +2

    People will just straight throw or tilted when they see unfamiliar hero in some certain role.
    You will lose a lot. And thats not because hero is not good but the people are just too closed-minded.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +1

      that use to happen but recently i don't get many pubs cry about hero picks. mayb because a lot of heroes are slowly getting figured out to play differently, it becomes more accepting? idk

  • @snowyowlgaming6690
    @snowyowlgaming6690 Год назад

    last game was great one. I watched every single sec.

  • @walkhardwalk
    @walkhardwalk Год назад

    team dk/burning ran safelane invo back in the days, I don't know why it was never used in tournaments again

  • @K1NNN
    @K1NNN Год назад +1

    Do you play pos 4 earth spirit?

  • @Serfdomftw
    @Serfdomftw Год назад

    Instead of getting falcon get urn, similar mana regen and stats, but gives urn effect that combo with coldsnap.

  • @ciddhere
    @ciddhere Год назад +1

    Wake up son, it's time for datohleong video

  • @orangoon1
    @orangoon1 Год назад

    Yea dude whenever I went into exort I always thought like it's a waste building into spell heavy items with all these right clicks

  • @kei5149
    @kei5149 Год назад

    cant wait to see this on my pubs

  • @potpot439
    @potpot439 Год назад +1

    Wouldn't wraith band instead of null talisman also be an option(like depending who you lane against? i mean voker has already pretty decent rightclick damage, and the asp bonus and the armor from wb might be usefull for him if he has to sustain alot of physical damage harrass, especially against armor reduction, or controlled units or something. Just food for thought.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +7

      i tried before, wraith band right clicks are stronger but usually get run down when I don't have enough mana to fight back, 1 null usually gives enough mana for early fights.(I could ice wall + sunstrike + cold snap + forge + occasionally meteor) i compared both builds and having mana is more valuable than having slightly more attack speed/right clicks

    • @potpot439
      @potpot439 Год назад

      ​@@datohleonggez Oh alright then, great build anyways :D I'd try it if i wouldn't have quit dota a few weeks ago haha

  • @raprap543
    @raprap543 Год назад +2

    Just in time for that Invoker cache set, for me to start ruining ranked pubs

  • @Andytlp
    @Andytlp Год назад +1

    this is a more advanced sf pos 1 and not as easy to pull off. Although just alacrity, forge spirits and cold snap can work in low pubs

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +1

      yeah basically sf/drow but with spells

  • @ApexFungi
    @ApexFungi Год назад +1

    i hal also being asking higher rank players why nobody use invo spells as utility not as main dmg deal.
    Thank you for this.

  • @itzbrilliant8386
    @itzbrilliant8386 Год назад

    Bei solchen Themen frage ich mich immer ob man nicht in der falschen Zeit geboren ist.
    Wir sind zu spät geboren um die unentdeckten Orte der Erde zu entdecken, aber zu früh geboren um das Weltall zu erkunden. In 1000 Jahren könnte die Venus bewohnbar sein oder in 100 Jahren vielleicht die erste Stadt auf dem Mars stehen. Doch mit Blick auf die Informatik denke ich, dass wir genau in der richtigen Zeit leben.
    Wir bekommen gerade hautnah die Technologiesierung unserer Erde mit. Und nicht nur das. Laut Prognosen werden wir miterleben, dass die Intelligenz von KI die der Menschen übertrumpfen wird. Wenn das nicht unglaublich spannend ist, weiß ich auch nicht weiter :D
    Wir leben nicht in der falschen Zeit, wir müssen einfach nach Genialität ausschau halten... Genialität, die wir zu häufig einfach mit Alltag verwechseln!
    Jede Zeit ist spannend!

  • @wyvern5400
    @wyvern5400 Год назад

    imagine if Mask of madness doesnt silence the user like years ago, my calendar would go back to the first dota days lmao

  • @moonyou.
    @moonyou. Год назад

    datohleong ,i hope to see a '10 plays you missed at the TI 11 Finals' or something like that soon. I hope u read my comment as i really enjoy ur content.💕

  • @filteroxic
    @filteroxic Год назад

    13:08 me too bro . . . me too

  • @mrsmile5009
    @mrsmile5009 Год назад

    Ah yes, the good old invoker, magician on steroids.

  • @krstffrtejada6025
    @krstffrtejada6025 Год назад

    Still thanking for the meepo strat 💕 playing over a years. And now this 😈

  • @rize8393
    @rize8393 Год назад

    this is really very interesting

  • @laiaa9178
    @laiaa9178 Год назад +2

    10 games later
    -2k behavior score

  • @winkythepooh
    @winkythepooh Год назад +1

    may i ask a genuine question? in this build, is witchblade not better? seems like this build wants to fight more as a carry rather than sitting on jungle farming?
    this video is very fun might try to improve my invo skills and try it out sometime.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +1

      witch blade is commonly seen on mid, my idea is the have lance eventually become pike for more mobility. then most items are build to carry late game. high physical burst can melt buildings/rosh and scale, the rest of the items are build to be really tanky so i can stand my ground and fight

  • @GoDSkRiLLa69
    @GoDSkRiLLa69 Год назад

    Always the best

  • @Klimbo93
    @Klimbo93 Год назад

    i mean cool, but most times the hero doesnt shine by itself
    the build works cause you get tuskm legion and marci to buff you hard time, while pulling everyone's attention

  • @jcl1ent
    @jcl1ent Год назад +1

    Okay here we go!!!

  • @krozilow
    @krozilow Год назад

    when i play dota 1 using invoker, i just using alacrity coldsnap and forgespirit, and early item is midas dominator pt, coz dominator in dota 1 give 20damage and lifesteal

  • @thisisjeff2817
    @thisisjeff2817 Год назад +1

    i remember dota 1 AI invoker use manta and deso

  • @johnbryandelacruz3200
    @johnbryandelacruz3200 Год назад

    not only invoker tho but any hero u can use core items just like dota 1

  • @mrlicht2454
    @mrlicht2454 Год назад

    Im doing this build way back when playing dota 1

  • @CultKosmosa
    @CultKosmosa Год назад +1

    thank god there are subtitles

  • @sorenyuki9303
    @sorenyuki9303 Год назад

    I watched this for guilty pleasure.

  • @chynarasan9924
    @chynarasan9924 Год назад

    time to watch my team doing similar thing but with rapier feed

  • @frostyd0052
    @frostyd0052 Год назад

    this is dota 1 build for kar-el. but nice video , good explanation and good effort on finding higher damage compared to standard build invoker

  • @ReSV1
    @ReSV1 Год назад +2

    Was wondering why not Revenant's Brooch as well for invoker. Since it also deal damage and give slow for 4 secs

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +1

      because i wanna build high physical burst + tank. can't get one shotted as a carry so most items are build to stand my ground and fight

    • @ReSV1
      @ReSV1 Год назад

      @@datohleonggez Seen Topson playing that build as a right-click DPS similar to your style of play, but he went Brooch and Bloodthorn instead of the pure physical DPS like yours. Wondering if there is any difference

  • @SomeKrazyDude4
    @SomeKrazyDude4 Год назад +1

    Dude you are so good 🙂

  • @whalehacker2431
    @whalehacker2431 Год назад +2

    this was made in herald unranked dont try yourself at home

  • @miglehp4592
    @miglehp4592 8 месяцев назад

    You should revisit this now that invoker is universal this will probably be even stronger now.

  • @Bastawesy
    @Bastawesy Год назад

    Finally I was getting bored playing invoker normally

  • @paperstars9078
    @paperstars9078 Год назад +2

    can you make support alchemist work, maybe with 3 venge? Also carry/offlane maiden? her lvl2 is insanely strong!

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад +2

      ye i think support alche is possible

    • @paperstars9078
      @paperstars9078 Год назад +1

      @@datohleonggez I have given this some thought, and I think a reasonable goal is to have the enemy be so afraid of you that you can just hide in the trees/to the side of the lane and the enemy is to afraid to even pull aggro.
      I learnt that most of the time a slow is enough, because keeping enemies in acid longer is really strong. Your other hero needs to be somewhat tanky or you have to be very careful with them(venge/cm are strong but might die too quickly)
      A strong aghanim hero on your lane doesnt matter because chances are mid or carry will have a strong aghanim upgrade.
      You always want to get blink before aghanims since it allows you to stay relevant for a really long time.
      Basi + Mana boots into wraithpact is very playable although you might not get as many kills so it might not be as much fun(but still very fun)
      It doesn't really matter if the enemies have high armor, it only matters if they can avoid the stun.

  • @DevilPissedOff
    @DevilPissedOff Год назад

    The only problem I have with many of your strats, is that I don´t play as well as you xD. Don´t think i can pull them of. Nice video though

  • @GameSplained
    @GameSplained Год назад

    Invoker Attack Range/animation is nuts as well as the quas exort abuse. Ive seen ppl do this but it literally will not work in 4k lower due to the mentality of the trench goers.

  • @delmoneto
    @delmoneto Год назад

    OMG THANK YOU! O always have a fucking invoker in my team making my game hell, mid, sup 4,5, offlane, and now im going to have a fucking CARRY INVOKER, THANK YOU SIR

  • @kazazaky2397
    @kazazaky2397 Год назад

    Its just too bad i can't PLay Invoker XD ,Good play as always man

  • @jromeeyjaidin5339
    @jromeeyjaidin5339 Год назад

    Do meme in 11k mmr gme..u really the real content creator..I done subscribe

  • @jassonsatria7737
    @jassonsatria7737 Год назад

    at 4:38 u also got bonus attack speed from drow ult right?

  • @aouka6060
    @aouka6060 Год назад

    you miss the desolator, im often used this kind of build AND YES wit this build i met am with black mail

  • @oliverorito1118
    @oliverorito1118 Год назад +3

    New video. I like

  • @hardn8251
    @hardn8251 Год назад

    Remind me the old auto attack invoker during Dota 1 era

  • @dsr3b
    @dsr3b Год назад

    I used to do this alacrity build with madness and malevolence. It was pretty nuts. Really high dmg. Glass cannon tho.

  • @Crixxtachi868
    @Crixxtachi868 Год назад

    Would adding wraith pact be a good move too?

  • @pisonetcoin5012
    @pisonetcoin5012 Год назад

    I wanna see you play Weaver pos 1.

  • @tomato2699
    @tomato2699 Год назад

    im going to try this at unranked :D

  • @muchammadyusuf2728
    @muchammadyusuf2728 Год назад

    instead go for middas, u should try miracle invoker mjolnir build, its old but maybe works

  • @Hung4086
    @Hung4086 Год назад +1

    That's me in the video

  • @jiegs9363
    @jiegs9363 Год назад

    SEA players watching this:
    Write that down, write that down!

  • @toshiiscrazy
    @toshiiscrazy Год назад +1

    Okay, back to playing.

  • @fadhlanrifaldi1664
    @fadhlanrifaldi1664 Год назад +1

    I used to play this kind of build, but still suck mixing speel till now

  • @DVSchool
    @DVSchool Год назад

    shadowblade first item and gank with forge spirits is op

  • @darkdemon1676
    @darkdemon1676 Год назад +4

    Datohleong wey is at revelation level, nota mere way.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Год назад

      i like to find new ways to play old heroes

  • @madaabdo1700
    @madaabdo1700 Год назад

    I promise i will try this