Miracle Hot Springs October 20th, 2022 Destruction
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Miracle Hot Springs in Kern County was demolished by United States Forest Service, USDA, CalFire, and the Kern County Sheriff on Thursday October 20, 2022. They were vandalized and then completely destroyed following a man's death the week before. The public still does not know the cause of death, now 21 days after he died. This video shows before and after images.
My son Anthony aka Primo helped to build and maintain. ..All his hard work broke our hearts. Stay strong it will be rebuilt. Volunteer here!
God bless my brother Primo...
I meet primo one day good jente...
Shit I'll help volunteer 🙋♂️ lemme know what up the real problem is people are lazy af and leave trash , they gotta get rolling trash cans thay gotta get dumped since people are lazy alternatively have a sign in and contact info saved on a book and those logging that week with piss poor cleaning will get fined
Thank you for being so passionate about this natural wonder an exposing the truth of the matter. With these records many will be able to truly see the reality of the issue(s) at hand.
And also, what that officer said about there being hep c and HIV in that water is he falsifying information? Because that's illegal. And is he also giving away health records of a private individual that was in the springs? Because that's also illegal. I'm so glad you got this footage.
It’s a HIPPA violation. That family should sue.
These hot springs were so special this is so heartbreaking 💔
The truth came out at the meeting held at the hot springs, there was no blood in water, body was only there less than 30 minutes, fire dept was first on scene, witnesses came forth proving all of Ranger Martin’s excuses were lies. But will anyone file a complaint?
thank you for documenting the situation!
Still watching this and admiring this mans' attitude, standing up for so many, against bootlickers with lies and excuses. Something is def amiss. People need to stand up to this. It shall not be allowed to go on. This is a very important aspect for the happiness of people. The very constitution states the pursuit of happiness is a right, does it not? These men are supposed to defend that. This belongs to the people. If "cleanup" is an excuse, let the people clean it... but it's not that. Something else is going on. They are using agencies to steal from the people. They are taking over everything. This area seems valuable in other ways. It's for sure magical for a reason. It must return to the people, for their enjoyment, just as it was. I'm gonna share the heck out of this. THIS VIDEO MUST GO VIRAL
Thank you! Share away!!!
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The truth of this comes down to one thing.... I have been visiting the Kern for over 20 years. Seeing the decline in this area is beyond sad. The graffiti, the trash. It's unreal. I used to pick up the VERY few pieces of trash or an old rusted can or a bottle that had been there for years and I'd toss it in my backpack. There is so much trash now. Diapers. I saw a dead German shepherd dog last time 10 feet from the road covered with rocks. Most of its body not even covered. Like some sick ceremony.... What I see there just gets uglier and uglier all the time. I've spoke to forestry and I'm sadly with them. Do I think they should have destroyed them. No, but something needs to be done about the entire area. I fear 1 day it will be illegal to even visit the area or there will be so many restrictions you minds well stay in town. I do not understand people can go out in nature and just trash it. I visit another hot spring and same thing. Place used to be pristine. Now I go I find myself picking up other people's crap?? Last time I had the place to myself. It was beautiful. Before I got in I picked up the area. A couple 40 oz bottles. Chip bags. Weed containers. Along one of the most beautiful spots for miles... That day as I was getting dressed forestry walked up on me and had his pad out to ticket me for the bottles when I explained I picked them up and was packing them out...one thing I did notice with this individual is I asked him..hey do you have a trash bag? Since I'd gathered too much to fit in a backpack..he said. No I do not. I said hmmm? Just kinda made me wonder about this individual... He spoke how much he cared. He spoke how he didn't want the area to be closed.. this was not miracle I speak of, once again... Yet forestry doesn't have trash bags. I asked him if he had one in his truck and he also said no?? I mean. If I did the job I'd keep them on hand. It's just kinda an ethics thing to me. I'm not saying they should pick up trash all day but tas you walk by don't walk by trash?? This should be like a thing they learn day 1 to me
I can’t argue with any of that. IF we are ever permitted to rebuild, it has to be done with strict regulations, something the ‘locals’ have fought forever. And now they have no Miracle Hot Springs. They are complicit. The litterers are complicit. We need a ‘smarter’ hot springs as someone eloquently said at the Dec 3rd meeting. Cameras. Signs. Internet (so simple to get a StarLink for that area). We could make it very regulated and clean. And we need the people (USFS law enforcement) who destroyed these to help us with their guns and ticket pads.
@@HammerHands hey no cameras though!!! 😂 Yeah I don't have the answer myself. I do know there are almost no trashcans, anywhere along the river. Shouldn't have to have them but it may help a little. I think a few, very large signs warning people of the potential fines and also possibly increase the fine to $2500. It's a harsh punishment but seeing an area change so rapidly it seems we need something drastic. Most of the people I've seen disrespecting these areas are not from Kern county. Most people I've met from this area love the area and many of us try to do our part. I do love it enough to have strict restrictions to preserve it before it gets worse. The graffiti in certain spots.. makes me wonder if I should be there?? Like, am I going to be killed or have my car jacked for being here?? Not playing
@@jonjonsin824 what’s wrong with cameras? That’s how the Amsterdam police do it in the red light district. Only cameras make people behave. I even think a dummy camera mounted to a tree with a blinking red light would stop half the shit that used to happen there. A camera… and a truck in the parking lot with law enforcement in it. Cameras provide evidence. Look at my video right here that allegedly got J Martin reassigned because he broke a HIPPA law talking about HIV and hepatitis. Cameras work. Video evidence holds up in courts. It has to be used, or we will never get the regulations enforced. People can’t be trusted with signs. Cameras? People behave. I don’t mind at all being recorded. I was when J Martin approached me in the video with his body cam running. I may even FOIA that footage.
Sure.
We have so much "internet." Perhaps there can be items displaying littering as something ugly fat people do.
Kern county amazes me, they just make it up as they go along... I love that you recorded this. Thank you. I'm from lake Isabella, i love hobo campground, it is so beautiful but the law enforcement and people made it a nightmare.
One of my favorite hot spring experiences was at Miracle. Just before Thanksgiving.. maybe 10 years ago? Had it all to myself for two days. Hot soak, cold plunge, repeat.
These tubs must and will be rebuilt.
I am devastated about this destruction! 🥲😭 So many beautiful memories & self-healing took place at Miracle Springs... It will live forever in my heart & soul! 🥹 This is so sad... Thank you for this video! 🙏🏼❤✨
Why was there still blood on the rocks ?
The blood is to be cleaned off of all accessable surfaces and disposed of in accordance with State of California Hazmat Law, by California State Certified HAZMAT Technicians.
Failure to do so is punishable by Ca Law and may include Fines and up to 6 months incarceration. The governing party is directly responsible for reporting and assurance of the initiation of Hazmat Clean-Up at the time of the removal of the body.
Signage shall be posted to inform the public and eliminate health risks to public citizens.
In addition to the above - any deferment of or deviation(s) should be reported to the Internal Affairs Division of the Agency handling the crime/accident scene and Complaints filed to include name and badge/employee serial number of all officers involved at scene. This will remain in personnel file and be made available to public citizens for review as well as any recorded body camera and/or vehicle camera footage by FOIA request. Deviations or tampered footage may be subject to U.S. Federal Law and result in criminal and civil prosecution.
This is unfortunate but in my heart I know we will rebuild miracle !!!!! It’s such a special place
We can only rebuild if we still have 121 degree water there. The rumor is that the Army Corps of Engineers intends to bury the hot pipe 12 feet under the river. Now we need to fight to keep the water we can use later.
California is owned by China.
This place was one the few kern county attractions that people came from all over to enjoy, I’ve met people from different parts of the country and even tourists from other countries enjoying this beautiful place, I’m willing to help rebuild it, I’m prepared to invest time and money to get it back up and running, I’ll even put a solar powered light pole if visitors are okay with it.
I live in Tehachapi and frequent the area
Was up there two weeks ago and saw a few cars in the parking area. I’m wondering if they rebuilt🤷🏼♂️
Unfortunately urban sprawl has been going crazy since the 80’s.
So much trash anymore.
In the 90’s I quit hanging out on the lower river and started spending most of the time on the upper river then the urban sprawl hit just as bad up there too.
Unfortunately I don’t spend time on the river in the warmer months anymore due to the crowds trash shit and toilet paper and go up to the high country
where so far there are not many people
yet.
Too bad this is happening to such a beautiful and special place
I know I am late to this, but does anyone know if Remington was destroyed as well? Like you all I was truly devastated when I found out Miracle was destroyed. I grew up in Kern County. My dad taught me how to drive on the canyon road. I've helped volunteers drain and scrub and care for these tubs. I moved out of town and when I came back home to visit, intending to soak in our springs, I was shocked to hear that wouldn't be possible any longer. I'm still shocked, confused, upset, sad and looking for answers I guess.
I'm so remiss I wasn't aware and able to join our community in trying to remedy this fucked up travesty. If efforts are still being made, I would love to know where to go to get information, connect with people, and offer help.
Thanks for supporting the grief we are still in. Remington is still up and going. There are some efforts underway to rebuild Miracle so stay tuned. And efforts underway to keep the federal investigation going of J. Martin need to continue as well.
I was there 7 years ago it was so beautiful and peaceful
Well be grateful you caught it in its hey-day. Even if it was rebuilt perfectly it’ll never be the same with the amount of trashy people that go there. Everything that was once peaceful and chill is now gone, unless you dig deeper into the forests.
I Miss those Hot Springs So Much!!!
It’s just a tragedy. My video wasn’t about revenge on Officer J Martin, although that is how it has been perceived and he has retaliated against me with two bogus criminal allegations that had me in a federal courthouse to defend myself. It was just about documenting the truth and what we had and now what we don’t have. Officer J Martin is the root cause of this tragedy and he just happened to walk into the video shot. And people are still blaming me for this destruction since it was me that put those sandbags there to help fix the situation. Those are the whacky lies that are rampant.
It really is a sad situation. I noticed during the pandemic more drug use going on there. It really is a shame, but it is sad reflection of what is going on in society. The government could care less, and as people we destroy great things we have.
Yup. People misbehaved, and USFS didn’t do anything about it.
@@HammerHands yea, who knows if it was on purpose or they just don’t want to deal with the issue. Maybe this tragedy was what they were looking for to justify their actions. There are a lot of instances where aggressive people that are using drugs or alcohol, not to mention all the trash a lot of people leave behind. What sucks is all those people don’t care and destroy the opportunity of enjoying these places for the rest of us.
@@mymomentummedia exactly. They intentionally did this and used a dead man as an excuse.
@@HammerHands Losers not respecting the place caused this. The whole area is not safe. The guy dying was the straw that broke the camels backs. Losers, thieves and problem starters used to get run out of there in a hurry. Not anymore. Sad. Thanks for the video.
@@54rockhound if only the USFS Rangers with the guns and handcuffs had done their assigned job and arrested and ticketed the losers.
I loved going here my heart breaks I’ll volunteer. This is sad but it’s also sad how some ppl don’t respect the springs and nature.
years ago i had to rebuild Delonegha Hot Springs 3 times before the new owners took over.
two times i was destoried by the rafting companies and once by a church group.
the last time i used a special concrete mix that was a lot stronger then normal.
the new owners still use the tubs i built 30 years later
i now go to the hot springs south of bishop calif.
You mean Keough Hot Springs? I’m keen on the one north-east of Bishop, Benton Hot Springs. I’m sort of tired of seeing the rustic ones destroyed by people’s egos, and it isn’t going away.
@@HammerHands yes keough's hot ditch under the power lines not the resort.
Ok so if all those pathogens don't flush free, then why are we still allowed to swim in lakes and ponds and streams? The inconsistency here is bogus, and that officer needs to cite where he's gathering this information from and who did all the testing when where and what lab it was sent to for it to be legitimate.
Seriously! We've had the best well water for over 20 years and 3 years ago the government comes up with a test that says there's ecoli in the water and claim they now have to chlorinate it regularly. They won't even say how much was found and now it's like I have to drink swimming pool water forever. So glad the state cares so much for our health
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” - Abraham Lincoln, First Republican President
My new favorite hot springs, since Miracle is prohibited legally now, was Benton Hot Springs near Mammoth. Drunk idiots burned it to the ground 2 nights ago. We destroyed ourselves. We can’t behave. We can’t just sit quietly in hot water listening to the birds and gaze at the mountains. We have to destroy it.
Bro that’s kinda nasty tho. You really wanna bathe where they just found a dead body 🤢 especially in kern county, I don’t go places where there’s too many homeless people for this reason, places always get trashed. Ontop of that, ones with real mental issues or are too strung out are dangerous.
Thats a fucking shame !!!!!
p.s. thank you to the men filming this situation, this is not over
Thank you for the thanks. Many blame me for this disaster still. But I do think it’s over if ‘USFS won’t allow concrete to be used because it is toxic to aquatic life’ (District Ranger Al Watson). We need concrete, and they know this.
People with power trips aren't looking for solutions. That guy gives the Forest Service a bad look. It's too bad he has to make it an us vs them thing.
USFS probably smashed the walls, sounds like they were guilty of that 😟
Hot springs seem to attract some awful people these days. I used to go to that area in the 90's and it was absolutely beautiful. Now the place is all full of garbage, roads not maintained, human sh*t everywhere... All the communities around Lake Isabella are just beat down. What the F happened?
We stayed at the campground in the '90s. The camp host told us we could use the hot springs, but we would have to make our own soaking spot because the USFS tears them down almost immediately. He also told us they may ask us to leave. A ranger came by while we were soaking, was very nice, told us to have fun and left. The camp host later told us that it was a horrible party spot with garbage and broken glass everywhere before the USFS tore everything down. Apparently, they relented, with all the concrete work I see now. This is not a new problem. I also read that this was the 4th death there in 2022.
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Forest goons... that place has been destroyed soo many times, that cop has a room temperature IQ at best and a major authority complex
My thoughts on this. Please respect the law enforcement rangers because they just want to protect the public. Also rangers please allow people to soak in these wonderful natural healing waters. These wonders of nature should be available for all to experience. Please don’t shut them down for the few who disrespect nature by leaving trash, etc. If people want to take risks soaking in these waters, let them. The high heat and sulphur content likely kills any harmful pathogens.
High heat and sulphur kills pathogens? Please don’t post nonsense here. That is not true. They made up an excuse to destroy this hot springs and we doubt there were ANY pathogens or blood there anyway. But sulphur?
Why can't there be a warning use at your own risk sign? Why can't there be a trash bag barrel by the springs to maybe encourage a respectful soaking visit?
This makes me so angry!!! What a bunch of B.S!!!
Those officers were on some kind of power trip. People enjoyed the springs, and now they are gone. A year later....still gone.
What they did to them is criminal! Let’s rebuild them I say!
Please get in touch with me! I have info about the death of this man who I still don’t know his name.
Well I’d love to know what you know.
Truly a Monumental waste of a world-class Hot spring visited by holistic health and nature-lovers the world over.
yet Miracle Springs were in often were overused, with no governor on the influx of people, hours allowed etc.
A situation that hopefully will find relief after the shattered remnants of the pools reappear from their present flooded-out state.
What was the crime?
Exactly but better what law was being enforced ?
Vandalism is The Crime.
The Thug Criminals that destroyed the tubs should be forced to rebuild them.
This is a tragedy that needs to be repaired. What a terrible disgraceful act against good people. Rotten acts of stupidity to take away the healthy natural resources of our lands.
I can’t believe that they have gotten away with this abuse of power.
Don't blame the rangers, they are just doing what your governor and president told them to do. (THAT YOU ELECTED)
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Governor has no jurisdiction over US Forest Service land, that's federal. And they were doing lots of things you'd disagree with during St. Trump's reign as well (not to mention Bush43, Bush41, and Reagan). The systematic de-funding of the federal government since the early 80s is the root of all these problems, because federal agencies do not have the resources to even do what Congress legally requires them to do at this point... because Republicans keep screaming for more and more cuts, and voters who know nothing about land management (or government in general) love sticking it to the government and federal workers.
It's funny that you'd criticize the state government for something they have no control over as a result of you literally not having the first idea of how the government works. The state government and the federal government are two different things, especially in the area of land management. Gavin Newsom and the CA state government have no jurisdiction or responsibility whatsoever over any NPS, USFS, or BLM lands. You equate government in California with "Democrats" or "Libs" and have an instantaneous reaction, and fart out stupidity online for us to read.
Your opinion is uninformed and reactionary, and is not useful to share. You don't know what you're talking about, and your gut instinct is damaging to the government anyway. You have nothing of value to offer to this conversation.
has this since been re-opened? i live in europe but can feel your pain at the army stealing your space away...
It sort of reopened when locals rebuilt a few tubs. And then another asshole that drank too much whiskey died a month ago so they closed it again. We all need to stop caring who died and move on. People die all the time in national forests but we don’t close them. Eleven people died in the Grand Canyon last year alone. Let’s petition to have it closed since it’s so dangerous. USFS is using death as an excuse very effectively. Drag the dead body out and get on with life for the remainder of us. This is stupid.
@@HammerHandsperhaps it is the USFS who is smoking the math...
Being honest. Hepatitis lasts 30 days at least. And you really don’t want to sit in Ecoli or HIV
Typical reality by California law enforcers. Governments and, hence, all the government workers are corporate. Get better informed about legal vs. lawful. If any 'law' enforcer tries to get you to 'understand' the 'law', you always reply "I do not stand under your authority". Don't ever agree with them. The law was never taught to Americans; the legal system was briefly taught.
Awful how these public serpents are (new sub)
Fuck time to run some independent testing 😤
We get to many of them anyways send the lady’s back
These rangers/boy scouts think they own rule over everything... and they don't!
HFTCD
Well I’m down to help rebuild only been once to packed tho so went down the st