Given that a vast amount on concrete is involved the structure does not look 'heavy' . Hope that one day this route will get me from London to Manchester. The only blocker is our short sighted Government. Fingers crossed that better decision can be made in the near future,
@@DavidShepheardHS4Air is a great proposal for that, we‘d need to be in the EU free movement area for it to work properly though (unless we build multiple entire international stations)
@@zhongcena.. there's absolutely no chance of getting HS2 back "on track" as Sir Keir Starmer stated in an interview in January. He said "it's not possible to do HS2 as the government have blown the budget & contracts are going to be cancelled" which is excellent news as HS2 is an environmental disaster of epic proportions & Britain's biggest infrastructure mistake in half a century.
Incredible, great to see the project powering ahead . The prospect of public , private partnership for the handsacre to Manchester airport segment feels me with hope even with reduced speeds . Fingers crossed.
Sad to think the elegant skipping pebble design will be topped with overhead powerlines and supports. Any chance they will be to a similar design language?
The time it has taken to construct the last pier/column in UK... MEANWHILE in China, another few thousands of km's of High Speed Railways was Constructed and OPENED! LOL
In the 150 year timescale of use of this marvel of modern civil engineering and given the costs and capacity, the decision to continue all the way to Manchester, Leeds etc. will be made. The current decision as it stands has ruined the whole project, the realization that trains will now run much slower, that platforms will be shorter along with shorter trains, so the capacity calculations are now duff will be looked at again by a more sane future government and department of transport not driven by the road lobby as present. After all the current decision was only made to appease Tory voters (who would never use this anyway being as they own 4 WD 4.2 L Turbo diesels and are happy in their shires), A stronger set of politicians of all parties would see that getting capacity for freight from the Southern and Eastern ports and the tunnel is a necessity for carbon targets, for road congestion relief, the idea that this was about journey times as a red herring. If the afore mentioned obstructive persons had not at least doubled the costs by their spurious and selfish interests making planning requirements for years and years, this could have been done in budget all the way, including Euston. As built now it has little benefit and yet another example of a complete stuff up which we are so used to in this great country.
Well Dave you made some pretty biased (sorry 'ill-informed') statements there. let me help you: * The decision to curtail the project was right given the cost explosion. Further studies will be (and indeed already are) in place to get to Manchester and Leeds. * The trains will run at the designs speed not slower. * The platforms will not be shorter as the stations are already in build. As designed. * The trains will not be shorter just fewer of them to start off. The trains will be legacy compatible and run on past Birmingham to the North. As designed. * The capacity between London and Birmingham and on to the North will be as designed just slower beyond Birmingham. * The DoT is not 'driven by the road lobby' ( nice pun). Although the way the rail unions have tried to destroy their industry you couldn't blame the DoT for lacking faith in rail. * The decision to curtail was a financial one not a political one. Want proof? Most Tory voters are in the southern section which is being built. * To assume all Tory voters 'own 4 WD 4.2 L Turbo diesels' is bordering on hilarious while sadly showing how ignorant the Liberal Left can be. I have been a Tory voter all my life and do not own the car you describe. As for the rest of your rant? I lost interest.
@@1chish 'The decision to curtail the project was right given the cost explosion' No it wasn't the right decision. * It was short sighted and makes any future expansion bloody difficult. *Totally contradicts the so called levelling up ethos this govt liked to bang on about. * Highlighted the constant political meddling that doomed its full delivery from the start. * Demonstrates how not to approach major infrastructure projects, particularly by a govt as spectacularly incompetent as this one. How on earth further studies will amount to anything is beyond me, unless funding is on the table. Which obviously it won't be. This govt, if not booted out by then, will hope private investment saves the day, just like it is hoping the same happens for the Euston leg. Anything that essentially abdicates their responsibilities. Naturally. Other than that, I agree with all of your other points 'I have been a Tory voter all my life' You have my sympathies
@@mrglide7078 I was prepared to discuss points with you until I got to the last unnecessary insult. Its impossible to discuss logically with anyone so far left as you clearly are. Have a great Easter ....
Huge quantities of concrete have been used to build hs2 so its level remains fairly constant - unlike traditional railways which follow the contours of the land. Renewing and extending traditional rail lines is probably peanuts by comparison with the enormous costs of hs2. Instead of the multi-billion cost of hs2 we could have had huge improvements and additions to our current rail network, improving travel for everyone - not just a handful of MPs and businessmen! The extended line from Oxford to Cambridge is an excellent example of good connectivity - perfect for all those travellers who don't need to travel via London. So, instead of similar schemes in all parts of the UK, we're getting just one railway line which will serve 2 stations in London and (I believe) 2 stations in Birmingham!
Please explain how the extended line from Oxford to Cambridge helps ease chronic congestion on the two track WCML - one of the most used rail corridors in the country.
@@mrglide7078 .. arguments that the WCML will soon be at full "capacity" rely on a discredited, out of date forecasting model which overestimates long distance passenger growth & isn't used for anything anymore except to justify the monstrous white elephant that is HS2. Network Rail's "New Lines Programme Capacity Analysis" shows that WCML capacity is kept artificially low by private operators wanting to maximise profits. A DfT analysis shows that in peak hours leaving Euston, WCML trains were loaded at just 52.2%.
I hate to pop your bubble but reinstating small lines would not help at all with the capacity of the network as a whole and would be poor value for money. HS2 that we are getting will be added to in the future once we have a government that isn't so short term. Have you seen the cost to benefit for the Cxford to Cambridge line vs HS2 as planned?
An absolute environmental disaster beyond comprehension 140 decibels of noise pollution pushing away all animals far away do people realise how loud that is because it’s louder than any concert ever performed which was Motörhead in late 70’s Not to mention the 65 billion already spent Utter carnage A big no from me
So what's your alternative solution to meet the future transport needs of this country? Think carefully as the WCML is already at capacity so any further upgrade there isn't going to have much of an impact or would you rather have more motorways which are a magnitude above in environmental damage.
@@thorley1969 less people is the only answer Surely u can c that How long will it be before this project is over capacitated then what more rail until there’s nothing left most humans don’t care about anything to do with nature just putting their own needs first which I think is selfish Maybe you don’t live or visit the tranquility of the countryside so you wouldn’t understand where I’m coming from they have trashed large areas by me We are all on burn out as a species because we are being brainwashed Think about what I’ve said for a moment
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Say what you want about the HS2 line but this is an incredible piece of engineering.
Given that a vast amount on concrete is involved the structure does not look 'heavy' . Hope that one day this route will get me from London to Manchester. The only blocker is our short sighted Government. Fingers crossed that better decision can be made in the near future,
Election soon-ish! Let's hope that'll get HS2 back (literally and figuratively) on track
You'll still be going London to Manchester on this route, it'll just only be high speed up to Lichfield.
Hopefully one day this route will get passengers from France to Scotland.
@@DavidShepheardHS4Air is a great proposal for that, we‘d need to be in the EU free movement area for it to work properly though (unless we build multiple entire international stations)
@@zhongcena.. there's absolutely no chance of getting HS2 back "on track" as Sir Keir Starmer stated in an interview in January.
He said "it's not possible to do HS2 as the government have blown the budget & contracts are going to be cancelled" which is excellent news as HS2 is an environmental disaster of epic proportions & Britain's biggest infrastructure mistake in half a century.
Well done, looks impressive!
Incredible engineering ❤
Fantastic, elegant structure. Nice work - well done to all the team!
Pretty elegant design and top notch engineering - going to carry trains for years to come!
HS2 should be built in full alongside HS3 in the North of England
Northern England may end up with more cheaper to build routes instead.
I've seen a couple of sections in this area up close & it's amazing. Hoping it remains low profile when the electrics are added.
Excellent work 👏
Once the deck is complete you should hold some sort of race (running / cycling) on it before tracklaying
Great work. How much did it cost? Could the line have gone round for less money?
Yay! Can't wait to go to Birmingham!
Excellent. Enjoy your stay when you go.
you can already go to Birmingham.
Incredible, great to see the project powering ahead . The prospect of public , private partnership for the handsacre to Manchester airport segment feels me with hope even with reduced speeds . Fingers crossed.
Sad to think the elegant skipping pebble design will be topped with overhead powerlines and supports. Any chance they will be to a similar design language?
Fantastic.
Looking Good.👍
Keep up the good work HS2.
Im told a train will not actually run for another 20 years is this correct does anyone know? And if not well will they
I think trains are meant to become open to the public in 5 or 6 years, 20 seems pretty pessimistic
The time it has taken to construct the last pier/column in UK... MEANWHILE in China, another few thousands of km's of High Speed Railways was Constructed and OPENED! LOL
In the 150 year timescale of use of this marvel of modern civil engineering and given the costs and capacity, the decision to continue all the way to Manchester, Leeds etc. will be made. The current decision as it stands has ruined the whole project, the realization that trains will now run much slower, that platforms will be shorter along with shorter trains, so the capacity calculations are now duff will be looked at again by a more sane future government and department of transport not driven by the road lobby as present. After all the current decision was only made to appease Tory voters (who would never use this anyway being as they own 4 WD 4.2 L Turbo diesels and are happy in their shires), A stronger set of politicians of all parties would see that getting capacity for freight from the Southern and Eastern ports and the tunnel is a necessity for carbon targets, for road congestion relief, the idea that this was about journey times as a red herring. If the afore mentioned obstructive persons had not at least doubled the costs by their spurious and selfish interests making planning requirements for years and years, this could have been done in budget all the way, including Euston. As built now it has little benefit and yet another example of a complete stuff up which we are so used to in this great country.
Well Dave you made some pretty biased (sorry 'ill-informed') statements there. let me help you:
* The decision to curtail the project was right given the cost explosion. Further studies will be (and indeed already are) in place to get to Manchester and Leeds.
* The trains will run at the designs speed not slower.
* The platforms will not be shorter as the stations are already in build. As designed.
* The trains will not be shorter just fewer of them to start off. The trains will be legacy compatible and run on past Birmingham to the North. As designed.
* The capacity between London and Birmingham and on to the North will be as designed just slower beyond Birmingham.
* The DoT is not 'driven by the road lobby' ( nice pun). Although the way the rail unions have tried to destroy their industry you couldn't blame the DoT for lacking faith in rail.
* The decision to curtail was a financial one not a political one. Want proof? Most Tory voters are in the southern section which is being built.
* To assume all Tory voters 'own 4 WD 4.2 L Turbo diesels' is bordering on hilarious while sadly showing how ignorant the Liberal Left can be. I have been a Tory voter all my life and do not own the car you describe.
As for the rest of your rant? I lost interest.
@@1chish
'The decision to curtail the project was right given the cost explosion'
No it wasn't the right decision.
* It was short sighted and makes any future expansion bloody difficult.
*Totally contradicts the so called levelling up ethos this govt liked to bang on about.
* Highlighted the constant political meddling that doomed its full delivery from the start.
* Demonstrates how not to approach major infrastructure projects, particularly by a govt as spectacularly incompetent as this one.
How on earth further studies will amount to anything is beyond me, unless funding is on the table. Which obviously it won't be.
This govt, if not booted out by then, will hope private investment saves the day, just like it is hoping the same happens for the Euston leg.
Anything that essentially abdicates their responsibilities. Naturally.
Other than that, I agree with all of your other points
'I have been a Tory voter all my life'
You have my sympathies
@@mrglide7078 I was prepared to discuss points with you until I got to the last unnecessary insult. Its impossible to discuss logically with anyone so far left as you clearly are.
Have a great Easter ....
@@1chish Bizarre response on a number of levels.
@@mrglide7078 What is 'bizarre' is you still need to get to insults rather than to some proper discussion.
Huge quantities of concrete have been used to build hs2 so its level remains fairly constant - unlike traditional railways which follow the contours of the land. Renewing and extending traditional rail lines is probably peanuts by comparison with the enormous costs of hs2. Instead of the multi-billion cost of hs2 we could have had huge improvements and additions to our current rail network, improving travel for everyone - not just a handful of MPs and businessmen! The extended line from Oxford to Cambridge is an excellent example of good connectivity - perfect for all those travellers who don't need to travel via London. So, instead of similar schemes in all parts of the UK, we're getting just one railway line which will serve 2 stations in London and (I believe) 2 stations in Birmingham!
Please explain how the extended line from Oxford to Cambridge helps ease chronic congestion on the two track WCML - one of the most used rail corridors in the country.
@@mrglide7078 .. arguments that the WCML will soon be at full "capacity" rely on a discredited, out of date forecasting model which overestimates long distance passenger growth & isn't used for anything anymore except to justify the monstrous white elephant that is HS2.
Network Rail's "New Lines Programme Capacity Analysis" shows that WCML capacity is kept artificially low by private operators wanting to maximise profits.
A DfT analysis shows that in peak hours leaving Euston, WCML trains were loaded at just 52.2%.
I hate to pop your bubble but reinstating small lines would not help at all with the capacity of the network as a whole and would be poor value for money. HS2 that we are getting will be added to in the future once we have a government that isn't so short term.
Have you seen the cost to benefit for the Cxford to Cambridge line vs HS2 as planned?
I live under that in our boat on the Marina, not fun
This is of no interest to anyone North,east,west of Birmingham.a large proportion of the UK.
Well you know who to blame for the cuts....
Awful, awful music.
People living in substandard housing, queues at food banks, schools falling to pieces and we waste money on this vanity project. Disgraceful
Its putting money in workers pockets, that's a good thing.
An absolute environmental disaster beyond comprehension 140 decibels of noise pollution pushing away all animals far away do people realise how loud that is because it’s louder than any concert ever performed which was Motörhead in late 70’s
Not to mention the 65 billion already spent
Utter carnage
A big no from me
So what's your alternative solution to meet the future transport needs of this country? Think carefully as the WCML is already at capacity so any further upgrade there isn't going to have much of an impact or would you rather have more motorways which are a magnitude above in environmental damage.
Get back to us in 250 years when it's all settled in.
@@thorley1969 less people is the only answer
Surely u can c that
How long will it be before this project is over capacitated then what more rail until there’s nothing left most humans don’t care about anything to do with nature just putting their own needs first which I think is selfish
Maybe you don’t live or visit the tranquility of the countryside so you wouldn’t understand where I’m coming from they have trashed large areas by me
We are all on burn out as a species because we are being brainwashed
Think about what I’ve said for a moment
@@andyb3712 I doubt that we as a species will be here then pal tbh
just as well we didn't take your advice then
Waste of money. Should be off the shelf solution
Please tell us with all your engineering skills and planning knowledge how you would do it better than the experts
'off the shelf' what does that even mean? 🤡
@@mrglide7078 wickes, they sell brand only reinforced concrete piers
man that is some BIG shelves you use ..... 😂😂
@@CynicalPlatapus HS2 clearly missed a trick not hiring such a magnificent mind and skillset ...