@@practicallyfrugal I know. I ran into that issue a bit too. Cool vid. I have a model Y and am considering adding a bolt to the family as the price after tax credit is pretty darn good.
@@n00bprof82 My rotors are good. My brake pads were only 60% worn and my car has 113k miles. I've never had brake pads and rotors make it past 80k on any of my previous vehicles.
I bought my Model Y AWD (Standard range) back in Feb and recently bought 2023 Bolt EUV in Oct for my son. Ive been driving the Bolt a week now to compare and i feel the same way as you mentioned: Bolt. For around town and Y is definitely better to take on road trips. Even with charging at 110V, regular outlet at home, the Y gets more miles over night compares to thr Bolt and I even change the setting in the Bolt to allow max amp. My biggest complain with the Bolt is the brake hold. While the Model Y has solid brake hold between gears, the Bolt still has momentum rolls a little bit. We drive both cars with 1 pedal (max regen) Not sure if anyone has the same complaints about this one their Bolt. Also, there so many interior plastic trims vibration wheb going over slightly rough surface.
I bought a Bolt EUV for in-town duty. No sunroof or SC. I used to own a Ford CMax which had a glass roof. Ford used St. Gobain anti-heat glass. It looked like the windshield of an aircraft with that metallic purple/orange tint. Even in Memphis TN, during the summer, I could touch the glass and it was not hot. Why doesn’t T use this glass? Why didn’t they design a gutter around the X’s rear doors? That’s another reason why I chose the GM over the T besides ROI. I am no GM fan having repaired multiple GM vehicles throughout my early life when I thought it was great that most parts interchanged so a lifetime warranty alternator could be used on my next vehicle as well. That is a benefit and a drawback to GM products, but one thing GM does do very well at is fitting interior parts and longevity of overused parts like door handles. That used to irk me about Japanese cars- how the door pulls were plastic cups instead of being bolted to the door metal beneath the trim. Anyone who had one break knows exactly what I mean. I’m glad Mary didn’t cancel the Bolt entirely, and I hope that GM’s Ultium variation of the Bolt will retain the EUV body. The world needs a reliable, inexpensive EV. GM needs to work on their 800v architecture, or move forward to 1.5 KV. Beyond that, the world needs to move away from LMC and LFP to LiS or SeS chemistries if EVs are to replace Dino-fueled passenger vehicles.
Oh, check out Hankook tires, Kinergy PT is LRR -IIRC. That’s what I plan on putting on the Bolt eventually. Also… why not N2 filled tires GM? Aren’t those supposedly good for 10% increased mileage? I do not like the Michelins. The max pressure is too close to the recommended tire pressure for me- and WTF a 480 treadwear 17”??? Usually Michelins are good for at least 600 if not 800 unless those are performance tires.
You should leave your EVs outside so that if they go into thermal runaway, you have a chance to save your house. Also, the Amp rating of a panel or subpanel does not mean that all the fuses in that box must total to less than the box breaker rating. It would be cheaper and better, to run one 150 or 200A subpanel in the garage since you will need to change out wiring to uprate either panel. And while you are at it, move your charging infrastructure out of your garage!
The black plastic covers under the front seats came from Amazon and the rubber covers in the rear near the back doors came from RPM Tesla. Topfit for Tesla Model Y Underseat Protector ABS 2nd Row Kick Cover Under Seat Slide Fleece Protector Accessories - Pack of 7 a.co/d/5fAZCPm www.rpmtesla.com/collections/model-y-interior-parts/products/model-y-0door-sill-protection-kit-4-pcs-tpe-rubber-xx?variant=40533529329718
What is the overall difference with ride quality. I have a bolt and the ride is stiff and jerky. I am thinking about trading up to the Model Y for a better ride quality. I would appreciate your insights.
@@robertdicola4870 the model Y is a sporty firm on 19" tires, there is zero body roll during turns and is more composed than the bolt. Closest comparison I have is the sporty firm feel that a 3 or 5 series BMW has. It's not cushy like a Cadillac, Mercedes, or Lexus. I personally still like the bolt for around town as I can easily park it anywhere and is cheaper to own and operate than the Tesla. Tires are not cheap on the Tesla, the oems are $300/ea plus install and that is with the smaller 19" rims. And insurance is about $200ish more for the Tesla per year. With that said the Tesla is a far superior car overall, but so is the price. And if ride quality is your major decision point only the yes the Model Y will be better
On this EUV no as it was a MSRP swap from a 2021 Bolt I had leased April of 2021. There was no markup then. It was actually the best lease deal I have ever had and still have on this one thru April of 2024. 12k/36mo only first payment due $0 down.$199/mo. My buyout in April is $25k after all taxes and fees, the bolt will have about 19k on it as the 23k I put on the '21 were like they never happened once I swapped.
As equipped the Bolt is $32k after fed and NYS incentives. The Model Y was $54k but with further price drops is $52k. Note because of the higher MSRP the MY only gets $500 in NYS vs the bolt getting $2k. Gray was an additional $1k as was the tow hitch. Yes that seems pricey for a tow hitch, but there is more going on with the Tesla . In out scenario the Model Y was replacing our 2014 Highlander as my wife's daily driver and equipping out a hybrid XLE or limited the MY just seem to make sense.
I have Erie Insurance with full coverage $1k deductibles the Bolt is about $600 the MY is $850. Collision and full glass is significantly more. Medical is lower in the Tesla
As a 3-time Bolt ev/euv owner and an owner of a Model Y Performance, the engineering of the tesla is miles ahead. I am retired and use my bolt euv for my Uber driving, which is great for this line of work here in Southern California. I have been averaging 4.6 miles/kw since 1/1/23 with 30,500 miles already. The most efficient car of the 2. The top speed of the euv is 93, and the Y PERFORMANCE IS 155. Hard to drive the performance at speed limits 😂. For comfort and long trips, the Y Performance is much better. For the price difference, if you include the charging infrastructure and the warranty, the Tesla is the winner. If you only use it for daily driving and you can charge at home, the Bolt is great. You also can't beat the purchasing process of a tesla.
@@tmorcos21 engineering is ahead build quality when it comes to door gaps and paint are still a work on progress for Tesla. Our driver's side door was not gapped correct and noticable as well as a paint defect from the factory. The ultimate was the headliner bolt completely missing....and didn't have a chance to inspect as it was shipped 5hrs from mt.kisco...who clearly didn't check it over. All have been remedies but never had those on any new car ...
I just purchased a 2019 certified Chevy bolt EV Premiere. With only 8000 miles on it. Brand new upgraded battery, And a 72 month 72000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, got it for $24500. And love it. This thing is like brand new and way less than a 2023 model 😬
@@recumbentrevolution6540 good deal compared to current new car prices, and it's like a new car as there are so few things to be considered with on an EV
Set the money factor aside and ensure that which ever is chosen fits the use case first. If purely running around town or within 2 hours of home, I would lean towards the bolt especially if you have a trip car. If your travels are more than that on a regular basis then the Y.
@@practicallyfrugal I bought my Bolt basically for the local driving and free charging I get at work. I drive around 55 miles per week, so this is the perfect car for me. I've only had it for 1 month, so I'm still getting used to it.
I recently bought a 2023 Botlt EUV, and I absolutely love it for what I paid for it
One of the best values out there
I pick the bolt because I like the looks / fun to drive/ size of the car and cost
It is a great car at a great price
You can set custom height for the rear hatch for Tesla when you press and hold the hatch button until you hear the beep.
I did learn that but being tall lowering it always means hitting our head on it
@@practicallyfrugal I know. I ran into that issue a bit too. Cool vid. I have a model Y and am considering adding a bolt to the family as the price after tax credit is pretty darn good.
@@gpvelc8399 they are a really good deal, I am debating buying mine out as the cost to buy a new is similar to buying this out.
Thanks. You picked two winners
Great video. FYI....I have 113k on my 2020 MYLR, and the brakes are about 60% worn. And I believe that FSD caused most of the brake wear.
113k mile the brake pad and rotor usually wear out anyway
@@n00bprof82 My rotors are good. My brake pads were only 60% worn and my car has 113k miles. I've never had brake pads and rotors make it past 80k on any of my previous vehicles.
Great video. This really helped.
I bought my Model Y AWD (Standard range) back in Feb and recently bought 2023 Bolt EUV in Oct for my son. Ive been driving the Bolt a week now to compare and i feel the same way as you mentioned: Bolt. For around town and Y is definitely better to take on road trips.
Even with charging at 110V, regular outlet at home, the Y gets more miles over night compares to thr Bolt and I even change the setting in the Bolt to allow max amp.
My biggest complain with the Bolt is the brake hold. While the Model Y has solid brake hold between gears, the Bolt still has momentum rolls a little bit. We drive both cars with 1 pedal (max regen) Not sure if anyone has the same complaints about this one their Bolt. Also, there so many interior plastic trims vibration wheb going over slightly rough surface.
I am at 14,500 miles now, no plastic rattles on the bolt so far.
I bought a Bolt EUV for in-town duty. No sunroof or SC. I used to own a Ford CMax which had a glass roof. Ford used St. Gobain anti-heat glass. It looked like the windshield of an aircraft with that metallic purple/orange tint. Even in Memphis TN, during the summer, I could touch the glass and it was not hot. Why doesn’t T use this glass? Why didn’t they design a gutter around the X’s rear doors? That’s another reason why I chose the GM over the T besides ROI. I am no GM fan having repaired multiple GM vehicles throughout my early life when I thought it was great that most parts interchanged so a lifetime warranty alternator could be used on my next vehicle as well. That is a benefit and a drawback to GM products, but one thing GM does do very well at is fitting interior parts and longevity of overused parts like door handles. That used to irk me about Japanese cars- how the door pulls were plastic cups instead of being bolted to the door metal beneath the trim. Anyone who had one break knows exactly what I mean. I’m glad Mary didn’t cancel the Bolt entirely, and I hope that GM’s Ultium variation of the Bolt will retain the EUV body. The world needs a reliable, inexpensive EV. GM needs to work on their 800v architecture, or move forward to 1.5 KV. Beyond that, the world needs to move away from LMC and LFP to LiS or SeS chemistries if EVs are to replace Dino-fueled passenger vehicles.
Oh, check out Hankook tires, Kinergy PT is LRR -IIRC. That’s what I plan on putting on the Bolt eventually. Also… why not N2 filled tires GM? Aren’t those supposedly good for 10% increased mileage? I do not like the Michelins. The max pressure is too close to the recommended tire pressure for me- and WTF a 480 treadwear 17”??? Usually Michelins are good for at least 600 if not 800 unless those are performance tires.
Does the lighter / ash interior of bolt look good when compared with black? Thank you
I personally think it does. I chose it over the black as the cabin feels more open with the lighter colors
You should leave your EVs outside so that if they go into thermal runaway, you have a chance to save your house.
Also, the Amp rating of a panel or subpanel does not mean that all the fuses in that box must total to less than the box breaker rating. It would be cheaper and better, to run one 150 or 200A subpanel in the garage since you will need to change out wiring to uprate either panel. And while you are at it, move your charging infrastructure out of your garage!
For real...that Jaguar I-PACE fire in Colorado is scary 🔥
@@terrancecloverfield6791 Yuppers.
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Where did you purchase the plastic cover for your rear seat area? Thanks
The black plastic covers under the front seats came from Amazon and the rubber covers in the rear near the back doors came from RPM Tesla.
Topfit for Tesla Model Y Underseat Protector ABS 2nd Row Kick Cover Under Seat Slide Fleece Protector Accessories - Pack of 7 a.co/d/5fAZCPm
www.rpmtesla.com/collections/model-y-interior-parts/products/model-y-0door-sill-protection-kit-4-pcs-tpe-rubber-xx?variant=40533529329718
What is the overall difference with ride quality. I have a bolt and the ride is stiff and jerky. I am thinking about trading up to the Model Y for a better ride quality. I would appreciate your insights.
@@robertdicola4870 the model Y is a sporty firm on 19" tires, there is zero body roll during turns and is more composed than the bolt. Closest comparison I have is the sporty firm feel that a 3 or 5 series BMW has. It's not cushy like a Cadillac, Mercedes, or Lexus. I personally still like the bolt for around town as I can easily park it anywhere and is cheaper to own and operate than the Tesla. Tires are not cheap on the Tesla, the oems are $300/ea plus install and that is with the smaller 19" rims. And insurance is about $200ish more for the Tesla per year. With that said the Tesla is a far superior car overall, but so is the price. And if ride quality is your major decision point only the yes the Model Y will be better
Did you pay markup when you bought the Bolt?
On this EUV no as it was a MSRP swap from a 2021 Bolt I had leased April of 2021. There was no markup then. It was actually the best lease deal I have ever had and still have on this one thru April of 2024. 12k/36mo only first payment due $0 down.$199/mo. My buyout in April is $25k after all taxes and fees, the bolt will have about 19k on it as the 23k I put on the '21 were like they never happened once I swapped.
What was the total difference in price, for the two?
As equipped the Bolt is $32k after fed and NYS incentives. The Model Y was $54k but with further price drops is $52k. Note because of the higher MSRP the MY only gets $500 in NYS vs the bolt getting $2k. Gray was an additional $1k as was the tow hitch. Yes that seems pricey for a tow hitch, but there is more going on with the Tesla . In out scenario the Model Y was replacing our 2014 Highlander as my wife's daily driver and equipping out a hybrid XLE or limited the MY just seem to make sense.
How much did wrapping your Bolt cost?
Just over $3k. Rear quarter panels and hatch were not covered
What are insurance costs for each?
I have Erie Insurance with full coverage $1k deductibles the Bolt is about $600 the MY is $850. Collision and full glass is significantly more. Medical is lower in the Tesla
As a 3-time Bolt ev/euv owner and an owner of a Model Y Performance, the engineering of the tesla is miles ahead. I am retired and use my bolt euv for my Uber driving, which is great for this line of work here in Southern California. I have been averaging 4.6 miles/kw since 1/1/23 with 30,500 miles already. The most efficient car of the 2. The top speed of the euv is 93, and the Y PERFORMANCE IS 155. Hard to drive the performance at speed limits 😂. For comfort and long trips, the Y Performance is much better. For the price difference, if you include the charging infrastructure and the warranty, the Tesla is the winner. If you only use it for daily driving and you can charge at home, the Bolt is great. You also can't beat the purchasing process of a tesla.
@@tmorcos21 engineering is ahead build quality when it comes to door gaps and paint are still a work on progress for Tesla. Our driver's side door was not gapped correct and noticable as well as a paint defect from the factory. The ultimate was the headliner bolt completely missing....and didn't have a chance to inspect as it was shipped 5hrs from mt.kisco...who clearly didn't check it over. All have been remedies but never had those on any new car ...
I just purchased a 2019 certified Chevy bolt EV Premiere. With only 8000 miles on it. Brand new upgraded battery, And a 72 month 72000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, got it for $24500. And love it. This thing is like brand new and way less than a 2023 model 😬
@@recumbentrevolution6540 good deal compared to current new car prices, and it's like a new car as there are so few things to be considered with on an EV
I’m shopping between these 2 and I’m leaning towards the Chevy. It’s way cheaper
Set the money factor aside and ensure that which ever is chosen fits the use case first. If purely running around town or within 2 hours of home, I would lean towards the bolt especially if you have a trip car. If your travels are more than that on a regular basis then the Y.
@@practicallyfrugal I bought my Bolt basically for the local driving and free charging I get at work. I drive around 55 miles per week, so this is the perfect car for me. I've only had it for 1 month, so I'm still getting used to it.
@@stand.6008 I am just over 16k in 14 months so far so good.
WAIT FOR THE 2025 IT WILL CHARGE UP TO 6 TIMES FASTER
Forgot to mention u can buy 3 model Y for 1 bolt lol