Max Landis on The Bret Easton Ellis Podcast - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- When I was initially publicly shamed on twitter in late 2017, I promised myself that I would not seek out a platform, and focus mainly on myself, my own life and my own art. I would only appear on a platform if I was asked to directly; I stayed true to that for nearly five years. Finally, someone asked me, and it was Bret Easton Ellis, a writer I deeply respect. I'm clearly very nervous in the conversation, but I do feel I said some things worth hearing. Bret gave me permission to post part 1 so I thought: why not?
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That’s the most frank and open I’ve ever heard you be about your relationship with your father. Can’t have been easy to talk about.
He really said Michael Cera was in American Ultra 😂😂😂😂😂
So great to hear you on a podcast again, max
Incredible podcast, love both these guys. Was so excited to see that Brett was going to interview Max. Such an open honest and raw conversation. Incredible.
Dear Max, for what it is worth, you have brought a lot of light, and joy, and happiness to someone with whom you have much in common, and I have your work effect many other people in much the same way.
Thank you for all you have done, all you are doing, and all you have yet to do.
BTW was that the school where Richard Lavoie was?
20 mins in and I have to say Max, this is incredible. I didnt know what to expect, but I hope the experience was good for you. I can imagine it was very hard.
Great of Bret to both have you and taking this as an actual, deep interview.
Great interview dude.
I really appreciate your opening up like this.
If it makes you feel better, as a pre-internet star wars kid, while I wasn't an explosive behavioral problem, I DID get very irrationally upset when my parents told me one of my cousin's was going to be named "Luke". Couldn't explain it then, can't explain it now, but I ran off and cried in a dark bathroom over it.
You’re doing a very braze thing here. I’ve been listening to a few minutes each day, taking in your journey. I respect the heck out of you for the transparency and candor. And we get a cliffhanger ending here too. Looking forward to Part 2.
The brazery demonstrated here really cannot be discounted. Just like the brazery he had to be able to wear that silly rainbow sidecut.
I’m basically the total opposite to you in many ways, Max. Politically, socially, etc. But I’m rooting for you. I think you were very unfairly treated. I’ll listen to this when I can.
Understanding people like you make the world a nicer place.
I agree with both of you guys. I was aware of Max Landis as a screenwriter, before his “scandals” and “Cancellation”. Shortly before he was “canceled“ He wrote a couple of excellent comic books, including white has become my all-time favorite Superman stories “American Alien“. If things turned out differently, he had really cool long-term plans for sequels to his Superman story. Over the last year or two, using various mediums, he’s been working on a massive fan fiction Superman story with a reimagining of the DC universe called The Kryptonian Epic. I became such a fan, that eventually I had to look up what he’d been “canceled” for. I found out that while, he certainly did some fucked up stuff, but he genuinely seems to have matured and learned quite a bit about that experience and life along the way. It just sucks because his passion is being a screenwriter and who knows if he’ll ever get to do that again? The thing about cancel culture is, no one is born perfect, we always learn from our mistakes. Assume when these public mistakes happen to celebrities and the way people react to them, you sort of have to ask yourself is this just moral posturing and virtue signaling? Because I think there needs to be a path to redemption. Cancel culture just gets offended by what people say and then basically try to destroy their livelihood it seems hypocritical to me. You’re just completely writing somebody off without allowing for any possibility of chance or hopeful forgiveness. Having said all that, I am a huge Max Landis fan and and I want to see him to continue to make content like The Kryptonian Epic. Maybe they will finally adapt to a comic book at one one day.? Max clearly got caught up in the whole Hollywood scene and treated some women he was seeing disrespectfully and poorly. Obviously I don’t know the guy, but based on stuff I have seen him in on in the past, he has a totally different energy and it seems like he’s genuinely learned from his mistakes.
I am kinda the same. Very different than Max, but I appreciate his talent and honesty.
Same. Very different, but I love the guy and want the best for him.
Same
The conversation on Barbarian is fascinating to me. I love listening to Max dissect movies and plot structure.
Max, I have a lot to say but I'll keep this short. Just know that you inspire me and fill me with the wonder and awe that I got as a kid watching Superman and Star Wars for the first time. I don't and would never judge you as a person.
thank you for posting this. i did one of your screenwriting consultations a while back in a terribly-lit room. always appreciate hearing your stories and perspectives. this shit was real.
Holy crap Fear Itself! That's the damn show that I remember from my childhood! Once in a while I think back to the zombie episode and the one after with the cannibal and the rural family. That episode scared the shit out of me as a kid.
I'm alone on an island but I LOVED Halloween Ends. It was finally something different. Just the final 20 minutes was cowardice in my opinion, because they reverted back to type, instead of going all the way with their new direction.
COMPLETELY agree that the Yacht scene in Triangle of Sadness was indulgent but everything else was perfect.
Thanks for sharing this Max. Very personal and enlightening to your situation. Plus it's always great to hear you be ecstatic about talking about movies!
This is such a treat. Thank you for uploading, Max 😊
The voice intonation thing is so true, I instantly thought of Chael Sonnen.
All I know is that your Dad, John Landis was very polite to me when I was a Child Actor auditioning for films. There were many that were monsters to me, so I got your back as much as I can, because of my personal experience. Cheers!
30 minutes in and its already so relating even not having ever lived any of those experiences. Thanks for sharing Max.
Really good talk! I did a twitter seach for max landis... Those are some horribly toxic people who seemingly live just for going after you. Wish you well.
My esteem for Bret Easton Ellis just went way up.
A very beautiful episode. Thank you for sharing this with us all. P.S. CAN WE GET A LOOK AT YOUR JASON SCRIPT PLEAAAAAAAAAAASEEEE
A BRILLIANT interview, Max! I hope you do more. I miss hearing you speak on the regular. More Max!
This is going to be one hell of a listen I can tell, I am huge fan of him and of course you, I cannot wait to take to hear you take this leap you have thought about for a long time..
When you said you probably won't get into heaven, that legit makes me sad. Nobody is beyond forgiveness and redemption. That's between you and God. Nobody has a life without mistakes.
I'm a massive admirer and fan of your father. Through him, I found you online. Been following you for YEARS and, even through the "dark times" I've still followed and was happy to wait for you to give your side of the story.
This podcast was amazing as they always are with BEE. Your telling of your father and the twilight zone accident is so sad and yet so much of what you said is what I've explained to people online, yet I'd get ridiculed and even banned off websites backing your father! I have had the pleasure of meeting your dad twice and he was an absolute gentleman and such a lovely man.
Anyway, great conversation and continue being yourself cause there are many of us out there who love your work, your views and your stories.
I hate to say it, but I think that Roman Polanski's contribution to Robert Towne's Chinatown script is a big part of why that movie is so wonderful. When Towne DIDN'T have somebody like that reeling him in, we ended up with The Two Jakes.
Is Brett's podcast only available through Patreon now? I used to listen to it all the time from 2015-17, but it then vanished (like Max's career). I'd be very happy to have both of those things back in our lives.
Fantastic pod, thanks for posting. Gonna get part two on his patreon.
The part where you talk about Jason reminds me of You Might Be the Killer.... didn't quite stick the landing but I thought they really explored the idea for most of it
Finally taking a dig at it, that's fantastic.
Hey, Max. I obviously don't know you, but thanks for having the courage to share your experience. In life we get so caught up in our own shit we forget how bad other people sometimes have it. I am going through a very strange period in my life. I'm 19 years old. I'm angry and I feel alienated and resentful towards people who are long gone now. So many expectations and things to do these days. Its nuts. But anyway, thanks for being open and I hope people can see your sincerity and empathize rather than antagonize.
I've been a fan of yours for years and this is the first I heard your dad directed thriller, thats pretty cool.
Thanks for the upload Max! Gonna really enjoy this one
So excited for this! Big thanks to both of you.
This was a good interview. Also now know that Ellis has a podcast and have subscribed.
Max, you're super talented and I think your career will have a revival. Some of your characters are the best in narrative fiction. Anyhow, I rooting for you and I enjoy listening to you speak about the industry (among other things).
As a big part of the podcast revolves around your relationship with your father, I remember seeing a show/documentary with your father gushing about your work to Terry Gilliam... It can be found on youtube (Durch die Nacht mit Terry Gilliam und John Landis - Teil 4/4 - around the 11:40 mark).
I believe in your comeback Max! Wishing you nothing but the best.
Your parents not wanting to see you at times as a kid is very wrong. No kid deserves that. I mean, WTF ELSE where they doing that was more important than YOU?
i’ve run into Max a couple of times in LA on the street. he actually comes off as an affable, warm and very confident guy. certainly not as nerdy as he sounds here. he’s definitely morphed into one of the cool kids.
This was great. Will there be a part 2?
Loved the podcast when it was free. BEE’s movie takes and interviews are a brilliant contribution to contemporary film culture. Can anyone tell me his opinion of Blonde?
I NEED PART 2!
I would totally take this once a week. Max is fun to listen to.
I'm a strong believer in second chances, especially when the person has recognized their mistakes/flaws and is honestly making an effort to improve themselves. I wish Max success in whatever he does and I hope that his cancellation comes to an end so that we can enjoy more of his stories on the big screen.
I genuinely hope this was a cathartic experience for you. I can’t imagine what it’s like to be in the situations that you’ve described in this interview, but there are a lot more of us out here rooting for you than you may might expect. You’re truly one of the best storytellers I’ve ever encountered. And for whatever it’s worth, I will always be a fan past, present, and future.
Will other parts be uploaded here later, or is there somewhere else where they're available?
Max was given permission by the host to post part one. The other part(s) are paid content if i understand it correctly.
I thought that might be the case, but I know nothing about podcasts outside of RUclips and I don't know who to pay to listen to the rest.
John Christopher’s Tripod series was my first exposure to sci-fi when I was a kid. You’re the first person I’ve ever heard mention it. I’ve never met anyone else in my life who ever read them.
Max, as a huge fan of you, comic lover, and Christian above all, you made a joke towards of the beginning saying, “I’m probably not getting into heaven…” don’t think like that. You are offered redemption through Christ. Take it for what you will.
“American Ultra, starring Michael Cera”
Hehehe
This was a great listen, I appreciate you for telling your stories and I appreciate Bret letting your post this here. I hate what you would do with Halloween but hey, the people who had Halloween in their hands didn't exactly stick the landing, so what the hell do I know, right?
Hahahaha. I'm in your corner, man. I know you're not looking for advice from someone you don't even know, but the only way your career is going to stay on hold is if you keep it there. You're a good person, your concerns over not wanting to come off a certain way if you take a platform and blah blah, they've beaten you into that spot. You know who your are and what you are. You (and only you) know the truth. You wouldn't take treatment for an ailment somebody lied about you having, you wouldn't get stitches for a cut someone claims you suffered, so don't keep yourself off the grid because someone pushed you off the grid.
But again, you didn't ask for advice. I'll shut up. Much love, dude.
The 8 women who say they were sexually assaulted and violated by this dick would say different
This was an amazing episode! Love Max!
God bless, great interview.
I wonder what Max thinks of Rob Zombie’s Halloween 1 & 2 with the ideas he’s presented?
Listening to part 2 now on Patreon
Hope you enjoy it!
Where's part 2?
I have difficult relatives. they're assholes but I love them, I make no excuses for them, they are assholes. I'm sure Max is too, but I appreciate him "doing the work" and accepting that he has the capacitty to hurt and hurting people is not good.. I really do think that anyone who can accept that about themselves is becoming a better person... some people never do
Whats the other blacklist script thats libel?
I've been following you for a long time Max. Hope all is going okay with you
this was interesting from beginning to end. Where do I find part 2?
bret easton ellis patreon. it’s only like 2 bucks and def worth the money
I never watched the Stupids, but I'm sure I'd love it and I'm sure I'll love American Ultra and your Showtime Masters of Horror. I have much catching up to do.
Wow, that is amazing! I really respect the works of Ellis. This will be interesting!
As a kid, what intervention methods for your behaviors do you wish you had? Like, if you saw a couple with a tiny child like you- what advice or engagement tools would you reccomend?
Needs me some part 2!
Thank you, Bret podcast is so expensive now... Can we have part II too?
that one you gotta pay for
@@Uptomyknees Thank you.
I haven't listened to this interview yet. But , what did Bright look like before David Ayer copy and pasted his recycled material into the film you wrote?
Ahhhh where can I listen to part two???
We're can I find part 2 I need more???
Where’s the rest of the podcast?
Good supervillain teamup
I'm happy to pay for part 2 but having trouble finding it. Is it on patron or somewhere else? Google search isn't being helpful.
holy smokes
miss you david! stay dry!
@@Uptomyknees I cant stay dry I'm working on Aquaman scenes
Look i may not agree with everything hes ever said...but aint a person on the planet that aint said something that not only make them look emotionally invested in an almost negative way but political ,social or otherwise ....but the kid max dont get not only enough respect ....but enough chances to let his work shine....ive gone through every "pitch " he does on yt ...and not only is he one of the most passionate speakers ive ever heard , captivating in ways that current cinema couldnt reproduce if their boxoffice banked on it ....and not only that...THE IDEAS THE KID HAS ....the only reason they arent pictures yet...is because the industry has its head up their own asses selling us ads disguised as movies of IPs they couldnt care less about ...these arent just properties...these things we love are the modern ledgends we respect and want to endure ...in its purest form ...but these execs have no idea what they are working with and what the word pure means...max does however
Great discussion. Are we going to get part 2?
Lol American Ultra starring Michael Cera and Kristen Stewart
Where can I listen to part 2?
I'm broke so if anyone can tell me where I might find part 2 hit me up
Great listen. You always seem so personable whenever you speak.
When is part two dropping?
NM read the description
Can't wait for this one!
Wow! Amazing crossover!!
There's obviously a lot of more important stuff to take away from this interview, but I just need to laugh about how people are STILL mixing up Michael Cera and Jesse Eisenberg in 2023.
When's part 2
Looking forward to this
I am surely excited to devour this.
i would prefer condescension to pretentiousness under certain conditions. A pretentious presentation is condescending by nature, but pretentious presentation is coming from a place of self-importance without the substance to back it up. It's entirely possible for a condescending presentation to have fucking receipts to back it up.
Weird cut there at 44:35
What was said there?
I began explaining how I got managers after a year and a half at UM, but then stumbled over my words and exclaimed "You forgot an element of my career!" which led into a repetition of the same story!
@@Uptomyknees thanks for clearing that up👍
Just FYI - unless you signed something to the contrary, you have co-equal copyright with BEE of the entire content of this episode of the podcast and you are perfectly within your rights to share the entirety of the podcast on your channel.
Hey did u see the cover of Carly Rae jelsons new Spotify playlist ??? It’s a damn moon 🌝
I feel like I saw him on Reading Rainbow
I loved this podcast when it was free on iTunes. Bret always has amazing takes on things. I especially remember he had a very interesting, articulate opinion on why the Oscar-winning MOONLIGHT was a bad movie.
If I were your therapist I would love you for talking so much and dislike you for talking too much
Big ups though dude, for real
Bret is a legend.
genuine question: do you address the rape allegations in part two?
Interesting to hear that Josh Trank used to bully you. Is it true he banned you from set on Chronicle? If so, why?
It isn't true, I've heard that one. I had stuff going on with other movies so I didn't come to South Africa, but I was on set in Vancouver working with Josh on the reshoots. I've never been sure why he lied about that.
@@Uptomyknees Yeah I figured. Seems to me like it was just an easy way to distance himself and earn some brownie points.
Giddy up!
100% in your court on the pretension thing.
Where can I listen to the rest of this?
bret’s patreon
Ellis is my favorite horror author this will be interesting...