4:03 for people not paying attention. Remember. Beretta owns Benelli. Benelli owns Stoeger. Stoeger makes parts for Benelli. So this shotgun has good lineage. Maybe they’ll make a Benelli M4 type shotgun one day.
I think someone like myself dipping their toes into the semi-auto tactical shotgun world this sounds like the perfect gun to get, without going balls deep in a M4 or a 1301
I had a Stoeger 2000 that I used to shoot a lot of trap. Walnut stock. Had the buttstock loosening problem over and over. I tried a split lock and flat washer under the bolt head. No joy. Finally found the root cause. There was a steel threaded insert that screwed into the back of the receiver. The stock bolt screws into the insert. The problem was the insert was backing out of the receiver. Locktited the insert to the receiver and problem solved. Don't know if the 3000 has the same design, but you might check.
Using the MOA Precision adapter, I installed the MAGPUL SGA stock which helps w/recoil. The M2 extractor cured issues w/some ammo while the spring kit made it easier pulling.
Agreed, it's the best bang for the buck. I've got about 1,000 rounds through mine now. My advice: Install limb saver butt pad, esp. if you plan on a lot of full power loads. Replace the extractor & spring with Benelli or MOA Precision parts. The factory extractor has soft & poorly machined steel & will wear down after 400-500 rounds, & the spring is weak. If you will only use 2 3/4" ammo, replace the factory recoil spring with the MOA Precision reduced power spring (save factory spring for 3" shooting). *Don't add extra weight & shoulder rifle lightly for optimal reliability with lighter loads. $90 of parts, less than you'll spend breaking the gun in, and you have a budget-Benelli.
We really have to agree, 600 shells later and its running like new. We just picked up the MAC 1014 (Benelli M4 clone) hope to review it in the next month or so.
Along with the break-in period, loosen up on your hold when you shoot low brass bird shot. The pulled in death grip you normally use when shooting buck or slugs causes a malfunction with lighter loads... something to do with the inertia driven system. If you just place it to your shoulder and ease up on the grip a little, the gun will recoil naturally and will function properly!
Ken, that is awesome feedback. I thought is was the opposite. I kept thinking to myself "stop holding it like a girl get a better grip" next time I take it out, I promise to loosen up a bit with low brass and see how it goes. Thanks again for the feedback and for watching our videos.
It IS a skeet gun. After break in. Low brass, 3 dram, 1-1\4 oz #8 or 9 shot. Runs fine. Have maybe 500 rounds thru the M3000 and now it runs 1oz shot. Replaced my SPAS 12 that I sold (5,000 rounds from new in th '80's) for $5,000. Almost identical side view profiles.
See! I've got some other feedback alot like your Yankee, I'm pretty sure I'm just holding it like a girl, I'll do better! Thanks for watching and the strong feedback.
I own this shotgun I probably ran I would think up to 1,000 rounds I bought the 30" sporting barrel I shoot Trap with it. I shot so good with it. I bought a another stoeger MK3 18" barrel so I made tactical back tactical added beretta tube and barrel brace to add light. My MK3 now my trap/Skeet it has little bugs I got it used I think last owner did 3 gun with it. Sometimes fire. I'll buy some benelli parts try fix it.
I bought an m3k 3 years ago and immediately swapped out the extractor and put lightened trigger and hammer springs. Didn’t always cycle target loads for the first few hundred rounds which is what I mostly shot out of it shooting trap. My stock did loosen up once but some loctite and torque fixed that problem. The screw that holds the bolt release only has like 3 full threads holding it on and mine eventually stripped out. Go to the hardware store and grab a new one and use red loctite on that sucker. Overall I love the gun tho
Chad! Solid upgrades my friend, I hope you don't mind if I totally copy your idea and pass it off as my own, lol. Do you feel as if the lightened springs were worth the time and money?
@@krobros no doubt, I don’t remember the exact cost but the springs were incredibly cheap and super easy to install with a noticeable difference. I love the trigger on that gun. Hope it works out for you as well
I own that same shotgun and it has run great. Yes, it shokes with low brass shells if you hold the shotgun tight to your shoulder. High brass has been flawless. Regarding to the stock bolt, from factory it didn't came loose, but I changed the stock with the youth factory stock and it came loose. I blue locktight the bolt and it has not moved since.
What I wanna know is how you mounted that weapon light on the M3000. I have one and its excellent, haven't had the stock wiggle loose on me yet. I agree, if you're gonna get a Turkish shotgun, Stoeger is it.
I love my Stoeger. It is the most pleasant shooting shotgun Ive ever owned. I thought it helped with recoil. The only thing I didn'tike in it was Remington slugs.
Do you really find it pleasant to shoot? I happen to think it kicks like a mule, more than any other shotgun I own in fact. I sure do love it though and it is quite reliable. Thank you for watching our video and leaving a comment.
The biggest problem that will create the biggest problem in M3000 rifles is the shackle pin that holds the mechanism shaft. It is made of a soft material and is a punched process. Once you remove it, you cannot replace it with the same precision and tolerance. The pin shakes in the bed and this rifle becomes a hunting rifle. It becomes a shooting rifle, but it is not a bad day rifle. When the bad day rifle is disassembled. Same parts should be collected with the same precision
Thinking about scooping up a field version m3000 compact. 26 inch barrel and shorter LOP should work for me. For $360 should serve my needs for hunting birds, waterfowl and squirrel.
@@krobros it seems like an interesting gun, might have to get one sometime. I need a shotgun with a longer barrel for hunting though since thats its going to be used for.
I hear you, Bob, if you read some of these comments, I’ve got a few guys saying “oh, my semi auto runs, low brass, no problem“ and so I’ve kind of fallen for the idea that that actually works. I think I’m hearing you say that they’re fibbing.lol
Push/Pull is a very effective method of reducing felt recoil, yes. That said, this thing kicks surprisingly hard. It's really quite something. Thanks for the great feedback and we hope you enjoy our content.
Hi, I've ordered this after seeing your video. I do have a question though. I don't see a barrel clamp and wandered how you mounted the light? I enjoyed this video and look forward to receiving mine.
The M3000 uses a single tube without extensions so no clamp is needed. I installed a small MLOK 1913 rail directly to the forearm and used that to attach a white light.
First time to the range while i was breaking my Stoeger in, the butt stock definitely came loose. Kept shooting it to the point that I could freely rotate the stock 360 degrees. I expected it to affect the inertia system at that point, but I didn't have any issues shooting it even with the stock that loose.
@@krobros I just tightened it back down with an extended socket, just like you guys said. I haven't had any issues with it as of late. I think it just wasn't tightened all the way down from the factory
Thanks for the comment, that is a hillbilly mounting system custom made for the Stoeger. No mounts are available yet, you're going to have to make something up Valentine.
The reason why does not run low brass is because their not strong enough it's the same in all semi auto shotguns like the stoeger if you're going to use low brass go the p3000 or the m3000 sp
Did it come with the magazine extension or is that aftermarket? I can’t find any defenders with that extender with it-everything I’ve seen requires buying it separate and installing it. Thanks for this great review!
Damn that's frustrating, we've heard that from a handful of other Stoeger owners. Mine runs everything great now but it just didn't straight out of the box. Maybe we were holding it like a girl, thanks for watching Brother.
Paid $450 says retail was $6-700 I don’t remember off the top of my head. Palmetto state Armory has a sale on the m3000 defender don’t know if the defender is a different model or not.
Haven't had the loosening stock issue but I've only run about 100 rounds thru it so far. Bad news on the SDS AR T02. I was gonna bu one. Glad I didn't. Suggest you guys take a look at the Panzer Arms EG200. Beautiful gun, inexpensive, runs like a champ. Just subscribed.
I love mine. I got the walnut stock version and it's beautiful. It was $249 at PSA. The synthetic version is only $219. I really like that it doesn't have the extra step of hitting the shell lifter button to run it. More like an American semi auto. @@krobros
I have two of these rifles and never had the buttstock loosen. It does kick I am thinking that I am getting a Magpul SGA stock and use MOA precision adapter kit...those stocks are awesome
We think you're going to be delighted with it Joshua, thanks for watching. Also, what did you pay for it? Wondering if the price is holding steady. Thanks
Sooooooooooo personal preference man. I prefer a stock. If you're in doubt, go rent one (or both) and get a feel of both. Its worth it to spend $50x2 instead of buying the wrong scatter gun.
I have a Black Aces Tactical semi-auto 12 gauge that I don't really trust as a self defense shotgun. Got it as a gift! In the roughly $500 retail range, what would you consider to be the "best" 😮 shotgun for reliability, and if you had to figure in comfort as well (this one was not all that comfortable to shoot) what would you guys suggest? Wife is only 5 feet tall, and comfort, and being able to get follow-up shots is important. Was looking at a Mossberg 590, but was wondering if an auto would be better for her small stature. Had considered the 590 along with a mini-shell adapter.
@@TexasCorgiGun All be damned, could you please send me a link to that info? Thanks so much for the update and we apologize for suggesting you were wrong. Thanks for the super valuable info Corgi!
@krobros I know it's too bad because it looks like a good affordable option. I don't have a link. If you send me your email, I can forward you the email they sent me with the information, or you could reach out to them directly . I suspected it was discontinued because I went to eurooptics website, and it's listed as discontinued, so I reached out to Stoeger and got the info from them. Blessings.
Low or high brass has nothing to do with velocity. The load, namely the gun powder amount, does. The difference between brass height was an old way to distinguish between target and field loads. Also, for less felt recoil and more control, shoot with the push and pull technique. If you shoot a bow, be it recurve, longbow, or compound, then you'll know what I mean. Everyone makes good and bad shotguns. Including American manufacturers. Not just Turkey.
We hear you brother, I was referring more to the velocity with which the spent shell ejects from the chamber. The low brass can lack the "velocity" to properly eject the shell and allow the next shell to chamber. You're right, it's the wrong vernacular to explain the process. The push/pull method is sound, this particular scatter gun really hits hard. Inertia driven shotguns just kick like mules.
I have an M3K. You're right, it kicks a bit and the butt stock loosened up once but not since I switched the butt stock out to a shorter length of pull. BUT... I've shot about 1200 rounds thru it. Mostly cheap Walmart Redbox Federal #8 but I've also shot a couple hundred rounds of black aces 00 and 50 rounds of Fiocchi 00 and some slugs. It eats everything without complaint except a couple hiccups cycling with the fiocchi 00. It is less powerful than the Black Aces and it didn't seem to care for that which is strange since fiocchi advertises its as powerful as the federal cheapo Walmart #8 and that's been flawless.
Hey Willy, thanks for taking a minute to tell us how your M3K runs. It's good to know I didn't get a lemon or anything like that. Still, I haven't had near as good luck running Federal #8. Then again, I don't have near as many shells through mine as you do yours. The black aces do run perfectly well for me too. Thanks again for watching.
So, this one is already kind of gone, I don't see it anymore on the gun sites. Fear not, I have a new (and even better Turk knock off) go check out the MAC 1014 Benelli M4 knock off, I love this thing. We just filmed a review on it and it will be out very soon.
@@krobros I found a shop about 30 minutes from where I live that can order one for me. I’ve been doing some research and that seems like the one I want to get.
Really?! You're the second person to tell me that you ran low brass with no problems. Maybe I'm just holding the weapon like a girl. Thanks for watching Joshua.
My m3k has about 300 ends through it. Buck/slug. And one box of 25 low brass birdshot ( wallyworld trash). 0 issues with reliability. My stock bolt didnt loosen, but I did know about the issue before buying it, so I removed the bolt and put loctite on it.. Tally ho lads
Mine runs low brass after a few hundred shells but it certainly didn't run them 100% out of the box. Incidentally, what is your favorite shotgun lube? Thanks for watching.
The beats the shit outta your shoulder, is most likely a pass for me. Can you push pull on this thing, and it still cycle reliably? I think I'm just gonna suck it up, and a 1301 though.
I hear you, before you go the 1301 route and blow all your money, we really like the new MAC 1014. Great clone, much softer shooting, look into that a bit. Our review will come out on it next month.
@@krobros : Was really looking at the a300UP, but then discovered they're using stoeger manufactured barrels, and the the 1301 tac mod2, is only $400-$500 more for an Italian baretta. The a300 design has been around a long time, so tooling shouldn't have been a big cost, then the stoeger barrel, and it just seems to pricey for a Tennessee/Turkish made gun. I know the 1301's are assembled in Tennessee, to get 922r compliance, but at least the parts are coming from baretta Italy.
I have to admit Joseph, I got it out of the box, lubed it up, and shot it. I really should get all the packing grease off it and re-lube the firearm. Thanks for watching!
It is a very nice gun, but all users make the same comments. You must hold the gun to your shoulder, otherwise it will not cycle. This worries me very much. I'm undecided whether to buy it or not. When I have to defend myself, I may have to shoot without putting it on my shoulder. What will happen then?
Brother, I have to tell you... Some really amazing scatter guns have come out since we released this review. Please watch our review on the MAC1014 it is a superior shotty. The Stoeger is a clone of the Benelli M2 but the MAC is a clone of the M4 and its amazing for the same price. Let us know what you think, we ever compare it briefly to the Stoeger towards the end of the review.
The # of people wanting a "combat" shotgun to run birdshot is wild to me. This gun is mission-specific. Stop being so poor and either buy another gun exclusively for hunting OR buy a Benelli M3 convertible. Seriously.
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4:03 for people not paying attention. Remember. Beretta owns Benelli. Benelli owns Stoeger. Stoeger makes parts for Benelli. So this shotgun has good lineage. Maybe they’ll make a Benelli M4 type shotgun one day.
I agree! I would love to see a Stoeger with the ARGO gas system!
They make a pistol grip version so honestly pretty close
This review has convinced me to explore the Stoeger M3000 further.
Let us know what you find in your exploration. I personally think it’s very underrated for the price and performance.
My favorite piece I own by far.
I think someone like myself dipping their toes into the semi-auto tactical shotgun world this sounds like the perfect gun to get, without going balls deep in a M4 or a 1301
@@krobros Thanks for the info
Own 2 now. Best budget shotgun hands down.
I had a Stoeger 2000 that I used to shoot a lot of trap. Walnut stock. Had the buttstock loosening problem over and over. I tried a split lock and flat washer under the bolt head. No joy. Finally found the root cause. There was a steel threaded insert that screwed into the back of the receiver. The stock bolt screws into the insert. The problem was the insert was backing out of the receiver. Locktited the insert to the receiver and problem solved. Don't know if the 3000 has the same design, but you might check.
Thank you for the detailed description to the fix, I'll get right on that and see about the steel threaded insert.
Your review highlights all the pros and cons perfectly, well done!
Thanks, we tried really hard to leave no question unanswered. We really appreciate you leaving a comment and watching our review.
This was my very first shot gun. Got it brand new for $450. I love it more than my 930 and my Remington
Did your stock come loose?
I was on the damn site trying to figure out how much it was. I can’t find it lol.
So thanks for putting the price. Haha.
Found it on the site. I didn’t realize it was M3K on the site 😂
It’s $699 now. 😤😤 Still gonna pick it up
This review gives a comprehensive insight into the shotguns features.
Thank you very much for the kind words and for watching our review.
Using the MOA Precision adapter, I installed the MAGPUL SGA stock which helps w/recoil. The M2 extractor cured issues w/some ammo while the spring kit made it easier pulling.
I do love the look of that MAGPUL SGA stock. I'm gonna really take a hard look at that option, thank you.
Agreed, it's the best bang for the buck. I've got about 1,000 rounds through mine now. My advice: Install limb saver butt pad, esp. if you plan on a lot of full power loads. Replace the extractor & spring with Benelli or MOA Precision parts. The factory extractor has soft & poorly machined steel & will wear down after 400-500 rounds, & the spring is weak. If you will only use 2 3/4" ammo, replace the factory recoil spring with the MOA Precision reduced power spring (save factory spring for 3" shooting). *Don't add extra weight & shoulder rifle lightly for optimal reliability with lighter loads. $90 of parts, less than you'll spend breaking the gun in, and you have a budget-Benelli.
We really like the MAC 1014 over this one. Check out our new review on it!!
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Its great to see the comparison to the Benelli m2.
Glad you liked it!
Your review makes me appreciate the Stoeger M3000s value even more.
Thank you brother, we do enjoy helping people fall even more in love with their weapon with our reviews.
Actually just went out and bought a this exact stoeger because of this video. Amazing fire arm for the price and efficiency.
That is so cool Mason, thanks. We do love this Stoeger and we hope you enjoy it as much as we do. Where did you end up finding it for the best price?
Thanks for the thorough review, definitely considering this shotgun now.
Thank you, glad you found it helpful.
Impressive review, love the detailed breakdown of the Stoeger M3000.
Thanks DJ, we tried to leave no question unanswered about this firearm, thanks for watching.
The Turkish craftsmanship shines in this Stoeger M3000 combat shotgun.
We really have to agree, 600 shells later and its running like new. We just picked up the MAC 1014 (Benelli M4 clone) hope to review it in the next month or so.
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Very kind of you and thanks for the support!
Along with the break-in period, loosen up on your hold when you shoot low brass bird shot. The pulled in death grip you normally use when shooting buck or slugs causes a malfunction with lighter loads... something to do with the inertia driven system. If you just place it to your shoulder and ease up on the grip a little, the gun will recoil naturally and will function properly!
Ken, that is awesome feedback. I thought is was the opposite. I kept thinking to myself "stop holding it like a girl get a better grip" next time I take it out, I promise to loosen up a bit with low brass and see how it goes. Thanks again for the feedback and for watching our videos.
@@krobroswhat he said, don't be scared.
It IS a skeet gun. After break in. Low brass, 3 dram, 1-1\4 oz #8 or 9 shot. Runs fine. Have maybe 500 rounds thru the M3000 and now it runs 1oz shot. Replaced my SPAS 12 that I sold (5,000 rounds from new in th '80's) for $5,000. Almost identical side view profiles.
See! I've got some other feedback alot like your Yankee, I'm pretty sure I'm just holding it like a girl, I'll do better! Thanks for watching and the strong feedback.
The Stoeger M3000 seems like a reliable and capable shotgun.
More than capable, really exceptional scattergun for the price. Thank you very much for watching our review.
I got the Stoeger M3K Freedom 12 gauge and love it.
We are loving it so far!! Thanks for the support 🤘
I own this shotgun I probably ran I would think up to 1,000 rounds I bought the 30" sporting barrel I shoot Trap with it. I shot so good with it. I bought a another stoeger MK3 18" barrel so I made tactical back tactical added beretta tube and barrel brace to add light. My MK3 now my trap/Skeet it has little bugs I got it used I think last owner did 3 gun with it. Sometimes fire. I'll buy some benelli parts try fix it.
That's cool, I'd like to shoot that 30" barrel, come on up to the range.
7:03 best jam ever on a gun channel! 🎵
Ha! I like the jam too, why are you partial to that one?
@@krobros it’s got an electro-funk fusion reminiscent of “Sakvreye” (that’s how the band spells it)- it’s an immediate hook.
I bought an m3k 3 years ago and immediately swapped out the extractor and put lightened trigger and hammer springs. Didn’t always cycle target loads for the first few hundred rounds which is what I mostly shot out of it shooting trap. My stock did loosen up once but some loctite and torque fixed that problem. The screw that holds the bolt release only has like 3 full threads holding it on and mine eventually stripped out. Go to the hardware store and grab a new one and use red loctite on that sucker. Overall I love the gun tho
Chad! Solid upgrades my friend, I hope you don't mind if I totally copy your idea and pass it off as my own, lol. Do you feel as if the lightened springs were worth the time and money?
@@krobros no doubt, I don’t remember the exact cost but the springs were incredibly cheap and super easy to install with a noticeable difference. I love the trigger on that gun. Hope it works out for you as well
I own that same shotgun and it has run great. Yes, it shokes with low brass shells if you hold the shotgun tight to your shoulder. High brass has been flawless. Regarding to the stock bolt, from factory it didn't came loose, but I changed the stock with the youth factory stock and it came loose. I blue locktight the bolt and it has not moved since.
Blue locktight'ed mine too, seems to have done the trick. Thanks for watching.
What I wanna know is how you mounted that weapon light on the M3000. I have one and its excellent, haven't had the stock wiggle loose on me yet. I agree, if you're gonna get a Turkish shotgun, Stoeger is it.
yeah that is a tough one....no aftermarket mounts really available.
We totally rigged that mount brother, straight homemade.
@@krobros checkout the ROC-12 from CDM Gear LLC
I love my Stoeger. It is the most pleasant shooting shotgun Ive ever owned. I thought it helped with recoil. The only thing I didn'tike in it was Remington slugs.
Do you really find it pleasant to shoot? I happen to think it kicks like a mule, more than any other shotgun I own in fact. I sure do love it though and it is quite reliable. Thank you for watching our video and leaving a comment.
The biggest problem that will create the biggest problem in M3000 rifles is the shackle pin that holds the mechanism shaft. It is made of a soft material and is a punched process. Once you remove it, you cannot replace it with the same precision and tolerance. The pin shakes in the bed and this rifle becomes a hunting rifle. It becomes a shooting rifle, but it is not a bad day rifle. When the bad day rifle is disassembled. Same parts should be collected with the same precision
Any thoughts on best practices to seat the shackle pin better when it rattles loose? Thanks for watching.
I found a solution by sending my rifle to Stoeger and having a new punched pin installed.@@krobros
I have a stoeger m3k iv ran about 1200 rounds threw it I upgraded the shell extractor and spring no issues
Adam, did you upgrade it with Benelli parts?
Thinking about scooping up a field version m3000 compact. 26 inch barrel and shorter LOP should work for me. For $360 should serve my needs for hunting birds, waterfowl and squirrel.
I mean, I can tell you that the price is right but make sure to check out the new MAC 1014, Benelli M4 clone. Really awesome for the same money.
@@krobros it seems like an interesting gun, might have to get one sometime. I need a shotgun with a longer barrel for hunting though since thats its going to be used for.
I hear you, Bob, if you read some of these comments, I’ve got a few guys saying “oh, my semi auto runs, low brass, no problem“ and so I’ve kind of fallen for the idea that that actually works. I think I’m hearing you say that they’re fibbing.lol
The real limb saver for firing your shotgun is push pull done right it can really eliminate a lot of that felt recoil
Push/Pull is a very effective method of reducing felt recoil, yes. That said, this thing kicks surprisingly hard. It's really quite something. Thanks for the great feedback and we hope you enjoy our content.
Thanks guys. Because of this video I WILL NOT be buying a Stoeger!!!!!
Yeah, it's just.... old tech. ARGO gas is the way.
Hi, I've ordered this after seeing your video. I do have a question though. I don't see a barrel clamp and wandered how you mounted the light? I enjoyed this video and look forward to receiving mine.
The M3000 uses a single tube without extensions so no clamp is needed. I installed a small MLOK 1913 rail directly to the forearm and used that to attach a white light.
The Stoeger M3000 looks like a serious contender in the shotgun world.
We have to agree, this scattergun has really been exceptional especially for the price point. Thanks for watching.
First time to the range while i was breaking my Stoeger in, the butt stock definitely came loose. Kept shooting it to the point that I could freely rotate the stock 360 degrees. I expected it to affect the inertia system at that point, but I didn't have any issues shooting it even with the stock that loose.
How did you go about tightening it up? Thanks for watching.
@@krobros I just tightened it back down with an extended socket, just like you guys said. I haven't had any issues with it as of late. I think it just wasn't tightened all the way down from the factory
I also have a stoeger m300. Great gun. What light mount is that?
Evan, the mount is a homemade thingy-ma-bober... 3000. Thanks for watching!
They are a division of Benelli and compatible parts
How did you mount the flashlight? Picked up a stoeger m3k after watching this!
Thanks for the comment, that is a hillbilly mounting system custom made for the Stoeger. No mounts are available yet, you're going to have to make something up Valentine.
Bought one for my maverick
I've got a stoeger m3000 sp it has not failed me what so ever it cycles properly and it also has chokes
Are you able to run low brass reliably? What shells do you prefer for the Stoeger? Thanks for the feedback and for watching our reviews.
@@krobros it can run everything no proplems since it is straight pull but i prefer aaa eley alphamax+
@@bobfoster6755 I've not tried eley, I'm going to give that a try next, thank you.
The reason why does not run low brass is because their not strong enough it's the same in all semi auto shotguns like the stoeger if you're going to use low brass go the p3000 or the m3000 sp
Did it come with the magazine extension or is that aftermarket? I can’t find any defenders with that extender with it-everything I’ve seen requires buying it separate and installing it. Thanks for this great review!
My 3000 cam with the extended mag as a stock item.
No, that's out of the box brother. Thanks for watching.
It's great gun, wish I still had mine.
We all have that gun we should've kept, my friend. Thanks for watching.
My m3000 ran bird shot right out of the box! No error so far, Things a beauty.
Damn that's frustrating, we've heard that from a handful of other Stoeger owners. Mine runs everything great now but it just didn't straight out of the box. Maybe we were holding it like a girl, thanks for watching Brother.
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I have one, its recoil is pretty hateful, I purchased a limbsaver and screwed it on, totally different experience, made me love it even more.
Michael, limb saver ordered, thanks for the feedback!
Paid $450 says retail was $6-700 I don’t remember off the top of my head. Palmetto state Armory has a sale on the m3000 defender don’t know if the defender is a different model or not.
Brother! That's a great price, well done.
Haven't had the loosening stock issue but I've only run about 100 rounds thru it so far. Bad news on the SDS AR T02. I was gonna bu one. Glad I didn't. Suggest you guys take a look at the Panzer Arms EG200. Beautiful gun, inexpensive, runs like a champ. Just subscribed.
Is the Panzer EG200 really pretty cool because I was looking at that.
I love mine. I got the walnut stock version and it's beautiful. It was $249 at PSA. The synthetic version is only $219. I really like that it doesn't have the extra step of hitting the shell lifter button to run it. More like an American semi auto. @@krobros
My stock hasn't loosened yet, 500 rounds of buck and slug. We'll see. Thing does thump. Embrace the suck.
Would you mind checking out our new shotgun review, let us know what you think? The new MAC 1014 Benelli M4 clone is impressive.
I have two of these rifles and never had the buttstock loosen. It does kick I am thinking that I am getting a Magpul SGA stock and use MOA precision adapter kit...those stocks are awesome
I did this exact thing. Totally worth it
That does sound awesome, why do I get the feeling that will cost more than the gun? Thanks for watching.
No problem
Ordered and on the way.
Just ordered one.
We think you're going to be delighted with it Joshua, thanks for watching. Also, what did you pay for it? Wondering if the price is holding steady. Thanks
So, here’s the dilemma… pistol grip OR standard stock???
Sooooooooooo personal preference man. I prefer a stock. If you're in doubt, go rent one (or both) and get a feel of both. Its worth it to spend $50x2 instead of buying the wrong scatter gun.
How did you mount that light !!! Please tell!!!
Vic, you'll be disappointed to know that we kinda rigged up something ourselves, there's no mount out there for this. Thanks for watching.
I want to know how you rigged it and what products you used !! I’m fine with rigging lol
Good review. Well done
Thanks for taking time to leave a comment. Really appreciate the feedback brother.
When we remove the pin holding the mechanism swivel head shaft of your rifle, can you replace it with the same frequency?
A very smart question, Idk... I hope to do a "one and done". Thanks for watching.
My stock came loose on mine. My m3000 also wil run cheap birdshot as well.
Thanks for taking time to leave a comment. Glad to hear we're not alone.
I have a Black Aces Tactical semi-auto 12 gauge that I don't really trust as a self defense shotgun. Got it as a gift!
In the roughly $500 retail range, what would you consider to be the "best" 😮 shotgun for reliability, and if you had to figure in comfort as well (this one was not all that comfortable to shoot) what would you guys suggest? Wife is only 5 feet tall, and comfort, and being able to get follow-up shots is important. Was looking at a Mossberg 590, but was wondering if an auto would be better for her small stature. Had considered the 590 along with a mini-shell adapter.
So, I would say this shotgun is my favorite so far. We'll be reviewing the Panzer m4 next so, keep an eye out for that.
I can't find this shotgun anywhere. it's been discontinued.
It's not discontinued, it's just popular and hard to find some days. Keep at it, you'll find one.
@@krobros Just an FYI, I just got an email back from Stoeger, and this specific model it's in fact been discontinued by the manufacturer.
@@TexasCorgiGun All be damned, could you please send me a link to that info? Thanks so much for the update and we apologize for suggesting you were wrong. Thanks for the super valuable info Corgi!
@krobros I know it's too bad because it looks like a good affordable option. I don't have a link. If you send me your email, I can forward you the email they sent me with the information, or you could reach out to them directly . I suspected it was discontinued because I went to eurooptics website, and it's listed as discontinued, so I reached out to Stoeger and got the info from them.
Blessings.
@@TexasCorgiGun krobroschannel@gmail.com thank you
Low or high brass has nothing to do with velocity. The load, namely the gun powder amount, does. The difference between brass height was an old way to distinguish between target and field loads. Also, for less felt recoil and more control, shoot with the push and pull technique. If you shoot a bow, be it recurve, longbow, or compound, then you'll know what I mean.
Everyone makes good and bad shotguns. Including American manufacturers. Not just Turkey.
We hear you brother, I was referring more to the velocity with which the spent shell ejects from the chamber. The low brass can lack the "velocity" to properly eject the shell and allow the next shell to chamber. You're right, it's the wrong vernacular to explain the process. The push/pull method is sound, this particular scatter gun really hits hard. Inertia driven shotguns just kick like mules.
Damn, I like you guys. 12:20. LOL
Thanks Ivan, we're trying not to take ourselves too seriously.
What light and light mount are you using for the stoeger?
That is a HM2000 (Homemade) lol. Thanks for watching.
I have an M3K. You're right, it kicks a bit and the butt stock loosened up once but not since I switched the butt stock out to a shorter length of pull. BUT... I've shot about 1200 rounds thru it. Mostly cheap Walmart Redbox Federal #8 but I've also shot a couple hundred rounds of black aces 00 and 50 rounds of Fiocchi 00 and some slugs. It eats everything without complaint except a couple hiccups cycling with the fiocchi 00. It is less powerful than the Black Aces and it didn't seem to care for that which is strange since fiocchi advertises its as powerful as the federal cheapo Walmart #8 and that's been flawless.
Hey Willy, thanks for taking a minute to tell us how your M3K runs. It's good to know I didn't get a lemon or anything like that. Still, I haven't had near as good luck running Federal #8. Then again, I don't have near as many shells through mine as you do yours. The black aces do run perfectly well for me too. Thanks again for watching.
What SKU is this shotgun? I’m thinking of getting the 36033FS model (no pistol grip)
So, this one is already kind of gone, I don't see it anymore on the gun sites. Fear not, I have a new (and even better Turk knock off) go check out the MAC 1014 Benelli M4 knock off, I love this thing. We just filmed a review on it and it will be out very soon.
@@krobros I found a shop about 30 minutes from where I live that can order one for me. I’ve been doing some research and that seems like the one I want to get.
@@krobrosI’ve got a MAC1014 coming in on Tuesday. We will see if your recommendation was worth it!
Thanks guys
I have not ran into the stock losing up. Mine runs bird shot just fine . But does kick like a mule lol
Really?! You're the second person to tell me that you ran low brass with no problems. Maybe I'm just holding the weapon like a girl. Thanks for watching Joshua.
@krobros that's the first thing I shot out of it was a box of target loads ran just fine
thanks gents.
Thank you for watching and taking time to leave a comment.
Did not have to break mine in at all. Immediately ran low brass shells without a hiccup
I don't know, maybe I'm holding the weapon like a girl? Thanks for watching!
My m3k has about 300 ends through it. Buck/slug. And one box of 25 low brass birdshot ( wallyworld trash). 0 issues with reliability. My stock bolt didnt loosen, but I did know about the issue before buying it, so I removed the bolt and put loctite on it..
Tally ho lads
Mine runs low brass after a few hundred shells but it certainly didn't run them 100% out of the box. Incidentally, what is your favorite shotgun lube? Thanks for watching.
Grabbing it
Solid purchase, thanks for watching.
after about 225 rounds, my stock worked loose as well.
Thanks for the feedback, glad to hear it wasn't just me. How is yours holding up since the fix?
@@krobros remains to be seen, still have to take it out again.
Still kicks softer than any pump action
You could be right, its the fact that you can get the shells off super fast in a semi-auto and you can loose some balance pretty easily.
I am good with my Mossberg 930, cool video.😅😂
I agree your Mossberg 930 is a superior shotgun. Can't fault you for that. Thanks for watching.
is this good if i’m left handed
I would say, no better or worse than any other right-handed shotgun. Thanks for watching!
Good video. I thought y’all were European before I turned the volume up.
Nope, 5th generation Coloradans, thanks for watching!
@@krobros 10-4. Looking forward to try this shotgun out. And I will return to the channel
The beats the shit outta your shoulder, is most likely a pass for me. Can you push pull on this thing, and it still cycle reliably? I think I'm just gonna suck it up, and a 1301 though.
I hear you, before you go the 1301 route and blow all your money, we really like the new MAC 1014. Great clone, much softer shooting, look into that a bit. Our review will come out on it next month.
@@krobros : Was really looking at the a300UP, but then discovered they're using stoeger manufactured barrels, and the the 1301 tac mod2, is only $400-$500 more for an Italian baretta. The a300 design has been around a long time, so tooling shouldn't have been a big cost, then the stoeger barrel, and it just seems to pricey for a Tennessee/Turkish made gun. I know the 1301's are assembled in Tennessee, to get 922r compliance, but at least the parts are coming from baretta Italy.
You had to clean the the oil from the and if you put brand new oil on it it runs a lot better
I have to admit Joseph, I got it out of the box, lubed it up, and shot it. I really should get all the packing grease off it and re-lube the firearm. Thanks for watching!
It is a very nice gun, but all users make the same comments. You must hold the gun to your shoulder, otherwise it will not cycle. This worries me very much. I'm undecided whether to buy it or not. When I have to defend myself, I may have to shoot without putting it on my shoulder. What will happen then?
Brother, I have to tell you... Some really amazing scatter guns have come out since we released this review. Please watch our review on the MAC1014 it is a superior shotty. The Stoeger is a clone of the Benelli M2 but the MAC is a clone of the M4 and its amazing for the same price. Let us know what you think, we ever compare it briefly to the Stoeger towards the end of the review.
@@krobros I saw your comment 20 min ago then watched video. Now I have MAC1014 on the way. Thanks :)
@@krobros I saw your comment 20 min ago then watched that video. Now I have MAC1014 on the way. Thanks :)
Delighted to hear it, now get the tube extention pinned at the top of the comments on the video to finish it off.
My M3000 would never run Fiocchi full power buck. My Beretta and Mossberg do. M3000 gone.
Lame, sorry to hear the M3000 didn't live up to your Pepsi challenge. i'M gonna shoot her for a while.
The # of people wanting a "combat" shotgun to run birdshot is wild to me. This gun is mission-specific. Stop being so poor and either buy another gun exclusively for hunting OR buy a Benelli M3 convertible. Seriously.
Jay, we apologize for being so damn poor, we'll try harder, promise! Thanks for watching.
This "rifle"?
Bob, people make mistakes Brother, it's gonna be okay. Thanks for watching
Blue lock tight and then no problems.
Done and Done brother, thanks for watching.
I have the cheaper one . M3000 no ghost sights . Mine eats eats everything low high brass everything.
Did it run low brass right out of the box?
This review gives a comprehensive insight into the shotguns features.
Thank you very much for the kind words brother. Appreciate you watching our review.
Your review makes me appreciate the Stoeger M3000s value even more.
Pat, we always appreciate helping people love their weapons even more.