For the people who are saying this is really unbalanced. It isnt dawg like ik 35k coins is cheaper than a gold crate (gold towers are just straight up dogwater when compared to this) But this isnt power creep. You have to be like lvl 175 which is already a lot, and the best way to use this is in the fps mode. It dosent even have a full range in auto like other towers and its so damn expensive. This tower is meant for high level challanges, and gamemodes. this is just my opinion ok (sorry for yap)
for even higher challenges like hardcore or badlands, this tower still seems unbalanced. what is unbalanced will stay unbalanced regardless of cost or level, gotta accept that.
1 Placement though, and it requires a lot of Micro, even though this tower alone can beat game modes like Normal, Molten or Even Intermediate, you'll need to pay close attention once you get to modes like Fallen, Pizza, Badlands, Polluted Wasteland and the notorious Hardcore mode, has a lot of damage, but only one placement limit? Not only that, it's not even full range, so you still need to micromanage in order for it to be effective, that's fairly balanced. (Also it reloads 😅)
@@mattix_0490 Relax, even the a single gatling gun deals 925 DPS. So 4 gatling guns or 3,700 DPS would basically insta-kill all the aggro enemies. And with commander, that’s 5550 DPS, and that’s also not to mention that because gatling gun attacks for so long, the 925 DPS doesn’t actually give you an idea for how OP it is, and as you may guess, it’s way more OP.
What everybody fails to understand is that the gatling gunner is perfectly balanced FOR the hidden wave. Thats why on anything less than that, it seems super op. This video just serves as proof of that. Now i know that kids are going to buy it with robux to get around having to grind 175 levels to unlock it and that will be the only issue. I hope they dont change it because it is extremely fun to use it seems. Being able to take matters into your own hands is also very rewarding.
what about adding something like some sub-dps or using the gatling as the sub-dps and having another main dps? this video shows that the gatling gunner alone is enough for hidden wave
Its a very good tower, we do have to agree it is OP with infinite range and incredible 3(little fall off on 3rd enemy) pierce, basically making it HAVE to be used or else the loadout just isnt worthy of being best.
@@DoneThatSeenThatyou dont pay 2.6k for event tower, do you? You have to understand that event tower’s value comes from a limited time event that will never return and only during that time can you get the tower. event towers may have their exclusive ability that none has but doesnt mean they are brokenly op
I think I understand what’s happening. Let’s look at accelerator. While this might be a past version, it’s practically the same as the current version & will simplify things. The overcharge was 3,000, damage was 50, firerate was 0.108, charge-up was 2 seconds, & cooldown was 2 seconds. That gives you about 285 DPS. Now, what if you wanted accelerator to deal 500 DPS instead, but you didn’t change the damage as you also wanted the accelerator to attack longer. So you’d increase the overcharge to: 10,000? Wrong. 25,000? Wrong. 50,000? Wrong. 100,000? Wrong. 250,000? Wrong. 1,000,000? You’re still off by around 48 DPS, give or take. So accelerator is attacking FOREVER, still has the charge-up & cooldown of 2 seconds, & still deals 500 DPS per second, yet based on the maths, it hasn’t reached an average of 500 DPS. The same thing is probably happening with gatling gun.
Wait, you said you are still off by 48 dps. Could it be you got that number because you were looking at the result (close to 462) but you wanted it to be 500? I think that’s just because the number you should be looking for is 462. 500 doesn’t include the rate of fire bug. If true, that’s unfortunate haha.
Level unlock towers done right. Cant wait for pursuit rework (hopefully its as good if not slightly better than gold mini ehe, prolly isnt balanced nvm)
Gatling seems like a admin tower they accidentally released And Golden Crate seems like a op thing that will be meta that shreds everything but instead only a couple of them are good
Btd6 didn't make the gun to be fair. Also not technically dartling gunner since it has a straight line and not an angle of view. I see the similarity but it's just not the dartling man
@@totallynotavsrgacc g pyro is still good g scout not so much with more early game towers such as g crook g soilder and others g pyro is still useful it does good dps and has defense melting and is good against leads but i dont think its really useful at endgame at rearly game its really good
Y’all would think that devs would nerf tower to make it ‘’balanced’’they also nerf other tower like crazy (btw I swear the dude that says it’s too op are same dude that say it’s bad after nerf) Ex:accel from need in every game to just vanish .sledger from the best freezing tower to not freezing anything For commander I don’t think he got nerf that much but you know about the range
Toxic gunner is bugged for like a week btw. It can be compared to a g soldier. Now i always use it in juggernaut because of extra slowness and poison. Pretty good
in my opinion, the fallen king kinda sucks. It really only does two things which is stunning a summoning. I feel like they should've kept the old abilities from the old fallen king instead.
They should buff the stats but make it unable to get buff from other towers, the tower is supposed to be strong by itself to make up for the 1 placement limit, so it should be all you need Without buffs it won't be as overpowered but you no longer need to rely on supports to reach full potential which allows you to be more creative with the placement for such an unique tower
Bro i swear td games are so stupid when making bosses, they spam minions like no tmr, like is this a boss fight or a regular wave but with a really tanky enemy
@@anonymous5186how???? I did SHC with it this morning and it made the game significantly easier, no gamemode is challenging at all with this thing. And on top of that it is absurdly easy to get should be lvl 500 and cost at least $100k
Need nerf. some units should be able to lock the weapon, so they must resort to a medic and reload until they run out of ammo and can't do it themselves. and maybe there are some units that that class of weapon doesn't hurt. It is a shrapnel weapon, not like the accel.
This tower should get a nerf, like only 2 gatling's at a time, or not being able to use abilities while in first person, so using the auto target isn't completely useless.
@@redbool1115 I beat Solo HC with pretty bad stun rng with Void Reaver not even making it to the second to last turn. That is absurd, almost as bad as Jester back in the day. SHC should not be an easy thing to do but it is with this tower.
Golden commando in tower battles battlefront average experience:
TBBF MENTIONED LETS GO
What’s ur level in tbbf
886
@@Ssssssssssssssioooooo I’m level 7500+
tbbf mentioned???
For the people who are saying this is really unbalanced. It isnt dawg like ik 35k coins is cheaper than a gold crate (gold towers are just straight up dogwater when compared to this)
But this isnt power creep. You have to be like lvl 175 which is already a lot, and the best way to use this is in the fps mode. It dosent even have a full range in auto like other towers and its so damn expensive. This tower is meant for high level challanges, and gamemodes.
this is just my opinion ok (sorry for yap)
for even higher challenges like hardcore or badlands, this tower still seems unbalanced. what is unbalanced will stay unbalanced regardless of cost or level, gotta accept that.
1 Placement though, and it requires a lot of Micro, even though this tower alone can beat game modes like Normal, Molten or Even Intermediate, you'll need to pay close attention once you get to modes like Fallen, Pizza, Badlands, Polluted Wasteland and the notorious Hardcore mode, has a lot of damage, but only one placement limit? Not only that, it's not even full range, so you still need to micromanage in order for it to be effective, that's fairly balanced. (Also it reloads 😅)
@@rahvun5991 placement:
I agree its balanced (almost) but just because its hard to get doesnt mean its balanced, it doesnt affect how strong it is if its hard to unlock
@@rahvun599rahvun is right, even if a tower is obtainable as such a high level, it shouldn't be insanely unbalanced
Imagine if aggro forced your camera to look at that enemy
That’s be free hacks for aiming.
@@5uspicious_Personthe small enemy leaking in a hidden wave attempt (you have 1 hp)
@@mattix_0490 Relax, even the a single gatling gun deals 925 DPS. So 4 gatling guns or 3,700 DPS would basically insta-kill all the aggro enemies.
And with commander, that’s 5550 DPS, and that’s also not to mention that because gatling gun attacks for so long, the 925 DPS doesn’t actually give you an idea for how OP it is, and as you may guess, it’s way more OP.
pressure reference
@@5uspicious_Person as in before gatling is maxxed
I’m not even surprised at this point
TDS is just awesome like that
What everybody fails to understand is that the gatling gunner is perfectly balanced FOR the hidden wave. Thats why on anything less than that, it seems super op. This video just serves as proof of that. Now i know that kids are going to buy it with robux to get around having to grind 175 levels to unlock it and that will be the only issue. I hope they dont change it because it is extremely fun to use it seems. Being able to take matters into your own hands is also very rewarding.
what about adding something like some sub-dps or using the gatling as the sub-dps and having another main dps? this video shows that the gatling gunner alone is enough for hidden wave
gatling is extra work so i think its healthy to keep it a strong tower, besides it incentivizes the grind to lvl 175 and 35k coins
Its a very good tower, we do have to agree it is OP with infinite range and incredible 3(little fall off on 3rd enemy) pierce, basically making it HAVE to be used or else the loadout just isnt worthy of being best.
so because its grindy it has to be the best???? i guess every event tower has to be good now cuz u pay for it like what
@@DoneThatSeenThatyou dont pay 2.6k for event tower, do you? You have to understand that event tower’s value comes from a limited time event that will never return and only during that time can you get the tower. event towers may have their exclusive ability that none has but doesnt mean they are brokenly op
lvl 175 and 35k coins are not even grindy. i mean, the tower is literally balanced
@@DoneThatSeenThatcope
I think I understand what’s happening.
Let’s look at accelerator. While this might be a past version, it’s practically the same as the current version & will simplify things. The overcharge was 3,000, damage was 50, firerate was 0.108, charge-up was 2 seconds, & cooldown was 2 seconds. That gives you about 285 DPS.
Now, what if you wanted accelerator to deal 500 DPS instead, but you didn’t change the damage as you also wanted the accelerator to attack longer. So you’d increase the overcharge to: 10,000? Wrong.
25,000? Wrong.
50,000? Wrong.
100,000? Wrong.
250,000? Wrong.
1,000,000? You’re still off by around 48 DPS, give or take.
So accelerator is attacking FOREVER, still has the charge-up & cooldown of 2 seconds, & still deals 500 DPS per second, yet based on the maths, it hasn’t reached an average of 500 DPS.
The same thing is probably happening with gatling gun.
its 6 seconds at max
gatling gun deals 925 dps to a single enemy and with pierce, gatling gun deals less dps too the 2nd and 3rd enemy. same goes for accelerator thp
@@charlzencooctavez3165 both first and second enemies are dealt full damage
Wait, you said you are still off by 48 dps. Could it be you got that number because you were looking at the result (close to 462) but you wanted it to be 500? I think that’s just because the number you should be looking for is 462. 500 doesn’t include the rate of fire bug. If true, that’s unfortunate haha.
@@charlzencooctavez3165to single enemy gatling gun deals 1000pds withuot bug 1111dps
Who would win ah moment ?
A. A man, a pegieon, and two furry
Or
B. A fallen king that get buffed by a hacker and all of his army
Nah I'd win ahh moment
From egg 🥚to bird 🦅
Is Pijjon
@@ramamaulana8922Pi john
Is Bld Egle
Big bird
@@hypeman958aleph
Level unlock towers done right. Cant wait for pursuit rework (hopefully its as good if not slightly better than gold mini ehe, prolly isnt balanced nvm)
I haven’t played this game in 2-3 years because I had everything. Now I cannot recognize it…what happened to it man…
"yes i am og" cornball
is this what outlaw saw while getting buffed by 20 comms
Underrated 2019 comment
One gatling gun cant beat hidden wave solo, such a shame
well no duh. It’s literally only has like 1k to 1,2k dps. And that’s by itself. 1k dps ain’t enough💀
Fr, is should be doing 25k dps instead of 1k
@@leonardotrujillo8661 dawg that’s like tdx level stuff. Tds is not on that certain type level of power. Just for 35k coins? Nah
@@Epikcoolguy bro does not know what a joke is
@@leonardotrujillo8661 it’s a joke it’s so funny I just laughed until my lungs slammed me against the wall
Gatling seems like a admin tower they accidentally released
And Golden Crate seems like a op thing that will be meta that shreds everything but instead only a couple of them are good
I have left this game from the Lunar event and don't know that TDS has became a masterpiece rn!
The only thing keeping this tower from game breaking op
Is the laziness of the average player
i like this tower because i can fight alongside my rangers on a cliff
so its just the darling gunner from btd6 but you are in first person
ayo
Btd6 didn't make the gun to be fair. Also not technically dartling gunner since it has a straight line and not an angle of view. I see the similarity but it's just not the dartling man
The silhouette for awaken fallen king is actually LORD EXO?!
This just proves that all gtowers need massive buffs (dont nerf gattling bro its just other towers are shit)
true especially g scout and g pyro like, they fell off so hard
@@totallynotavsrgacc g pyro is still good g scout not so much with more early game towers such as g crook g soilder and others g pyro is still useful it does good dps and has defense melting and is good against leads but i dont think its really useful at endgame at rearly game its really good
Y’all would think that devs would nerf tower to make it ‘’balanced’’they also nerf other tower like crazy (btw I swear the dude that says it’s too op are same dude that say it’s bad after nerf)
Ex:accel from need in every game to just vanish
.sledger from the best freezing tower to not freezing anything
For commander I don’t think he got nerf that much but you know about the range
Dj: from all 3 buffs at once to only 1 buff at time
All goldens need buff too
Gpyro used to shred 200hp enemies now he struggles and 20hp enemies
@@pawelk411pretty sure gmini, gsoldier, gscout and gcrook all got buffed in the last 2 months
Gatling gun: destroyer of every single enemy easily..
lead enemy: haha me very strong
Below please let us keep this.
This tower is perfectly balanced for what you need to do to get it either spend lots of robux or get to lvl 150 and have 35,000 coins
The power of the gatling gun 🐢🔥🔥
🐢
@@turtlelover6822 🐢
Still pretty sad we don’t got the old enemies just like the legacy hidden wave
the sheer amount of dps from this thing is insane
I feel guilt to have it without spending any gems because this is literally worth more than any golden towers or even gem towers right now.
To be fair it's expensive to upgrade and to use it for its full potential you have to be in fps mode
And golden towers are harder to get. Golden towers need massive buffs tbh, rn they are worse than free towers like ranger
- infinite range
- 1000 dps
- piercing
- immunity to stuns
- flying and hidden detection
- fast firerate
What were they thinking with this?
well its 175 lvl and 35k gold
Its 35k level locked and can only place one
Buff golden towers to match it
Tower defense simulator ❌
Shooter defense simulator ✅
I guess we're hitting the new high of balancing. They probably did this because of rework difficulties
Toxic gunner is bugged for like a week btw. It can be compared to a g soldier. Now i always use it in juggernaut because of extra slowness and poison. Pretty good
funny strat: commander, dj, mercenary base, gatling gun, farm
What Is the song name for the first Gatling gun part?
Is it just me or the 600 ammo capacity isn't 600...
It feel like it way more than 600
gatling with supports can actually solo fallen consumableless if you bring eshocker and play on honey valley btw
insane tower
I can’t find Honey Valley on the vip screen map search?
@@RainDroppswere you in a private server? If not then you have to be in a private server
yall keep on saying its way too op wait till the devs nerf it into the ground
Now we understand how hard towers have to aim
Bro was chilling with 1 hp
Imagine a full load out with golden minis and engineers as well.
In my opinion it’s not as op as people think, the cost just to max one is over 200K tho I still agree that it is kinda op
I was hoping someone made a vid about 4 of em🎉
Well there's the chance to get reward that belownatural should implement soon
What do you mean?
@@xyrkzes as in below natural promised better reward for beating hw than normal win.
"its not getting a nerf!! its not getting a nerf!!!"
in a 1v1 scenario it takes 800 seconds to kill afk
I just realized wait how long to exploiters just make a macro aimbot for them and then use a bunch of alt account bots ?
“EZ HIDDEN WAVE” - everyone using gatling rn
that gatling gun gameplay reminds me of TenZ lmao
I’m not even surprised. Very good tower
Now do this but with 12 turrets and 4 Gatling guns
if you're telling me this isn't power creep, then I don't know what is.
Imagine having op power and losing to 4 gatling gun
in my opinion, the fallen king kinda sucks. It really only does two things which is stunning a summoning. I feel like they should've kept the old abilities from the old fallen king instead.
Pov: Germany at normandy in ww2
Gatling gun is the definition of diy
What’s the bet when events come out will it be not allowed or will be be able to be allowed in event???
prob might depend on the event like with ace for example
DtC would actually go so hard with gatling gun
1:17 what music?
the arrival of nakedbuttcheeks
One of the new fallen tracks
Catharsis
its supposed to be op if the the player controls it.
How do you do hidden wave?
They should remove the one that can be buffed, like the xwm turret from tdx
Nah it has enough disadvantages to be able to be buffed
@@Fotononfit shouldn't be buffed honestly
@@Fotononfthe only disadvantage is the fact that you can't shoot through objects
@@sus_noob428you can
They should buff the stats but make it unable to get buff from other towers, the tower is supposed to be strong by itself to make up for the 1 placement limit, so it should be all you need
Without buffs it won't be as overpowered but you no longer need to rely on supports to reach full potential which allows you to be more creative with the placement for such an unique tower
Bros gatling was NOT maxed during the first attempt
whose gatling
What is that avatar eggrypted
Bro i swear td games are so stupid when making bosses, they spam minions like no tmr, like is this a boss fight or a regular wave but with a really tanky enemy
It will got nerf💀Doesn't matter it only has 1k dps with 1 placelimit
TDS patriots vs fallen king on galaxy gas!!!!!
It looks absolutely uncreatable.
SCHHHH, SCHHHHHHHHH DONT SAY THAT, THEY WILL NERF IT.
Yall just LOVE calling any new relativaly strong tower "way too op" so that then it gets nerfed to oblovion huh?
I think this tower is balanced nerf paintballer
Best tower ever created
The gantling gun it's like mercenary base, free if You have the enough level?
No
No 35k coins
How y’all lost first attempt I won first attempt with some friend and our map and strat we made is littirally 8 cube
7 minutes of craziness😂😂
Bros a big bird 💀 🐦
New hidden wave strat🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
what songs were used in this vid?
The ones from hidden wave duh
Holy shot, now hw Is More easier to trigger, i had to get the towers as quick as posible
WE GETTIN NERFED WITH THIS ONE🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Dont Say IT too OP. PLS The dev will Nerf It waaaaaa
Birdgrypted???? What are u doing here?.?
gatling gun too op pls dont nerf
too bad
It's balanced the way it is
Buf it (jk)
@@anonymous5186how???? I did SHC with it this morning and it made the game significantly easier, no gamemode is challenging at all with this thing. And on top of that it is absurdly easy to get should be lvl 500 and cost at least $100k
It balanced the hidden wave honestly
Only turrets VS Hidden?
"Nerfing brb"
It says it is unlocked on level 175 but im 251 and i don't have it. Do seriously need to buy it?
you need lvl 175 AND 35.000 coins
I going to buy and i need 20 levels more
Pgtd leak guys1!1!1!1!1!1!1
Wait how did you do hardcore with 4 people
they really need to remove need base hp is 1/200 to get hw
Or they could just make it so if everyone types the code to activate hidden wave it just immediately puts it to 1 hp
@@marri0nz good idea
get 6 people my guy :)
Can u help me with this
I think what need increasing is to level 200 + 50000 coins lol
This is why the devs balance the game, not the community
@@Random_-ky3li So real
Never.
25000*
@@charlzencooctavez3165wdym 25k+? Thats less the price and you already seen what the tower is capable of.
Yes
WOTER MELON 🔥🔥🔥
Isn’t even tds at this point :I
so crazy
W
power creep
Nuh uh , it’s just for experienced players, and you could buy it for 2k to compensate
Woah
Need nerf.
some units should be able to lock the weapon, so they must resort to a medic and reload until they run out of ammo and can't do it themselves. and maybe there are some units that that class of weapon doesn't hurt. It is a shrapnel weapon, not like the accel.
yeah but it cost 35k and lv 175 :(((((((((
@@bobyen422that’s hardly anything at all, should be much harder to get.
🤓
This tower should get a nerf, like only 2 gatling's at a time, or not being able to use abilities while in first person, so using the auto target isn't completely useless.
No. Buff all golden towers instead
This is so deeply unbalanced. Way too easy to get it, and way too powerful. No gamemode is challenging with this tower.
stop exaggerating how strong it is lmao
@@redbool1115 I beat Solo HC with pretty bad stun rng with Void Reaver not even making it to the second to last turn. That is absurd, almost as bad as Jester back in the day. SHC should not be an easy thing to do but it is with this tower.
@@enderturtlegaming7194 ehh hardcore is getting a rework at the end of the year I'm sure it'll be fine eventually
35k sure is easy to get man.
@@StarWithAPencilfuck you 35k aint that ez to get when you are busy almost all the tower