Lonna Kin: The Story of an Agunah

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • Lonna Kin: The Story of an Agunah
    This film was originally much longer. There were incredible scenes featuring some of the greatest names in the Rabbinical world who shared some of the greatest Divrei Torah and Chizuk about the importance of doing everything possible to free Agunot. And at the last minute, these Rabbanim backed out because they were uncomfortable with how it could affect their public perception.
    I look around me and I feel so lucky to be part of such a great community with some of the most amazing, earnest, and hard-working members and organizations. But I can't shake this feeling that our leadership is failing us. Imagine if there was an Agunah Asifa like the Internet Asifa, where Rabbanim of all walks of life had an urgent meeting to establish Halachic precedent and protocols to free Agunot. Will that day ever come?
    The rabbinical statements in this video will go a long way but we need more. Our sisters in chains can not wait another day.
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Комментарии • 55

  • @danwald607
    @danwald607 6 месяцев назад +2

    15:39 this is why (because the rabbis made special laws for agunahs) its important to make the distinction that historically/traditionally the word "agunah" has always meant a woman who wants her husband but can't find him.
    They are not "agunahs" it is a misappropriation of the word.
    Sometimes it may happen that he was not held back by an accident, and she would think that he was held back by an accident and she would be an agunah, and sit waitng for him
    Ketubot 3a.
    SHE WOULD BE AN AGUNAH, AND
    SIT WAITNG FOR HIM, meaning that an "agunah' is one who waits for her husband not a woman who runs away or locks the man out of the house.
    Though the rabbis accepted one witness to prevent agunah that is because a woman is expected to thoroughly search out the matter before she remarries, and because she did not do so in this instance, she is penalized. Mishnah Yevamot 10.
    SEARCH OUT THE MATTER meaning that she has to want him and ask around to make sure he is not alive.

  • @danwald607
    @danwald607 6 месяцев назад +2

    1:49 It's a little dishonest because it's not always about money; him saying that makes men sound greedy. People also do it because of kids. Once the man gives a gett, he has no leverage with regards to his ex to get custody of his kids and to raise them with the religious standard he values. He can go to court, but that will cost between five hundred thousand to two million. I am not saying it's morally right to use a gett as leverage, but I can sympathize with a man who hasn't seen his kids in 4 years. The tears of a man who cries at night because he hasn't seen his kids are not less important than that of a woman who cries because she wants a gett. I believe both tears are equally valid and heartbreaking.

  • @sara35ish
    @sara35ish 3 года назад +7

    Thank you Flatbush Girl for this interview. My heart cries for Lonna Kin . This is such a travesty. What lovely daughters she has. What a strong woman. I pray she gets her get soon. I am glad to see rabbis speaking out about this horrible issue . No one should have to suffer like this.

  • @danwald607
    @danwald607 6 месяцев назад +2

    9:48 the same question can be asked about a woman or man who for selfish reasons takes away the kids or inciting animosity with the kids towards the ex.

  • @tzipporahfleisher7845
    @tzipporahfleisher7845 Год назад +2

    Heartbreaking 💔 Beezrat Hashem we will see change soon. Thank you for sharing.

  • @chipchomper3995
    @chipchomper3995 3 года назад +7

    Wow. Lonna's strength and outlook is super human....says a lot about who she is....inspiring to say the least.

  • @LtGregoryStevens
    @LtGregoryStevens 6 месяцев назад +2

    Why do you even follow chalacha? You clearly have first hand experience on why its ridiculous and a joke.

  • @Sportstoshow
    @Sportstoshow 3 года назад +4

    I feel like not personally trying to track down her "claimed get" makes poor reporting. While my heart bleeds for any aguna, we have a responsibility to check I to this before sharing.

  • @murraybetesh
    @murraybetesh 3 года назад +6

    Amazing job!!!

    • @abebernstein8841
      @abebernstein8841 3 года назад +1

      Lonna Kin is not an agunah but a mesarvet ledin and a moredet and rodefet for refusing to go to bait din and instead litigating in secular court. Murray who are you kidding?

    • @strnglhld
      @strnglhld Год назад +1

      @@abebernstein8841 Time for her EX to LET GO. It’s getting sad and totally embarrassing for him

  • @tahliamollot9936
    @tahliamollot9936 3 года назад +1

    Where can I find more information or the source of that clip about Rav Ovadia?

    • @FlatbushGirl1
      @FlatbushGirl1  3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/FJLrR8i8tEo/видео.html

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +2

    End I do have mercy on all of you family

  • @chipchomper3995
    @chipchomper3995 3 года назад +11

    Its just a matter of time till these evil get refusers will have to face God. No-one lives forever. Karma is waiting!!!!

    • @newportmesa8864
      @newportmesa8864 3 года назад +2

      If its so evil why would G-d require a man to give a get in order for her to remarry??

    • @chipchomper3995
      @chipchomper3995 3 года назад +1

      @@newportmesa8864 good question. Its like a jewish divorce...cant remarry without getting divorced.... God gave people free will and the ability to choose to do good or bad. I believe most people are good, but this guy is definately a rare outlier.

    • @teshuvahnow2839
      @teshuvahnow2839 Год назад

      @@newportmesa8864 cuz he wants you guys in hell where u belong

  • @MrSamzucker
    @MrSamzucker Год назад +2

    There is another side to this story,

  • @elishevawenger2111
    @elishevawenger2111 3 года назад +3

    Amazing !!!!

  • @danwald607
    @danwald607 6 месяцев назад

    I support they should give a gett.
    But they are not "agunahs" it is a misappropriation of the word. The word "agunah" has always meant
    a woman who wants her husband but can't find him.
    Sometimes it may happen that he was not held back by an accident, and she would think that he was held back by an accident and she would be an agunah, and sit waitng for him
    Ketubot 3a.
    SHE WOULD BE AN AGUNAH, AND
    SIT WAITNG FOR HIM, meaning that an "agunah' is one who waits for her husband not a woman who runs away or locks the man out of the house.
    Though the rabbis accepted one witness to prevent agunah that is because a woman is expected to thoroughly search out the matter before she remarries, and because she did not do so in this instance, she is penalized. Mishnah Yevamot 10.
    SEARCH OUT THE MATTER meaning that she has to want him and ask around to make sure he is not alive.

  • @SgF-on2pl
    @SgF-on2pl 7 месяцев назад

    Everybody seems to see ur pain in ur eyes if you want a gat u will only get it if you will go to "his" bis din remember if you want a gat du only and only wot Wil halp u and not wot will halp ol the askonim.........

  • @elik2842
    @elik2842 3 года назад +11

    You have to interview Meir you have to hear both sides of the story

    • @FlatbushGirl1
      @FlatbushGirl1  3 года назад +10

      We tried numerous times through numerous channels. He ignored us.

    • @rosefriedman2764
      @rosefriedman2764 3 года назад +4

      He's on RUclips if you want to hear his hysterical ramblings.

    • @FlatbushGirl1
      @FlatbushGirl1  3 года назад +7

      @@rosefriedman2764 we couldn’t legally share that since he is the copyright holder of those videos.

    • @rosefriedman2764
      @rosefriedman2764 3 года назад +1

      @@FlatbushGirl1 I figured. Was just letting Eli k know that Meir has made his side of the story very clear and anyone with half a braincell can tell how deranged he is from his anti agunah ramblings.

  • @iw12
    @iw12 6 месяцев назад

    The man remarried. Whether he gave her a gift or not, she should be allowed to remarry. This is. Bs. Forget the get.

  • @MrPickledede
    @MrPickledede 2 года назад +3

    I don't understand this idiotic lunacy the court should be able to end the marriage if the man keeps on refusing a coercive divorce this problem is so unnecessary it's stupid and exposes Orthodox Judaism to so much unnecessary ridicule

  • @elig24
    @elig24 2 года назад +11

    This is Fake news, watch Meir's side. His arguments are fact-based. People should know that 50% of Agunos are the woman's fault

    • @strnglhld
      @strnglhld Год назад +4

      Meir needs to let go already. This is ridiculous.

    • @Rolando_Cueva
      @Rolando_Cueva Год назад +5

      It's always the woman's fault isn't it??

    • @NikkieRoxxx
      @NikkieRoxxx 6 месяцев назад

      Sure, and his 100 rabonim signatures that make him bigamist are a fact, too?

  • @fg-qq3cs
    @fg-qq3cs 2 года назад

    Kids!!! Darac aeraz u hafu call ur foter without his name. wen wos d last time you spoke to ur futer "כיבוד אב"

    • @NikkieRoxxx
      @NikkieRoxxx 6 месяцев назад

      English, please, not "inklis"

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +2

    I em not blaming no body in the world . only you and you husband. End God only no the true.

  • @SgF-on2pl
    @SgF-on2pl 7 месяцев назад

    אם אתה רוצה ג'ט תלך לביד שלו אין מי שיעזור לך רק ורק ביד שלו באמת באמת רחמנות עלייך אבל רק זה ורק זה אתה תהיה יכולה להינשא עוד הפעם תכנעו לוולא תשמע מכל אחד ואחד שיש לו בית משלו והוא יכול לומר לך לא תלך לכאן ולכאן תעשה מה שטוב לך ורק לך ואני מבטיח לך בלנ תקבל ג'ט ממנו מהיום עד לשנה הבאה באמת באמת רחמנות עלייך רואים הצער כ"כ שלך השית יעזור לכם שתעשו מה שיעזור לכם ולא מה שיעזור לכל העסקים ....בעינים

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +2

    No smoke whit uot fire....

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +3

    You not religes at all motzie shem ra gazel etc.

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +3

    No .mom you have the same problem . The kids spiking like hater how coding it.....???

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +3

    אשה בונה אשה הורסת.....

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +2

    Hhhhh Arab ovarian mature aguna she was never Maria lol dirent

  • @chaskelhorowitz7864
    @chaskelhorowitz7864 3 года назад +2

    I culd saing you not hapy to be jawish adopt the new bible