3 Fast-Food Burger Hacks From 3 Burger Experts | The Burger Show
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2021
- The In-N-Out Double Double, Animal Style. The McDonald's Big Mac. The White Castle slider. What do they have in common? They're all fast-food burger icons! In the season 7 premiere of The Burger Show, we're asking 3 burger experts-George Motz, Kenji López-Alt, and Alvin Cailan-to show you how to hack these titans of the burger industry at home. They've got some tricks up their sleeves, and some history to uncover. So let's get to it!
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Like if you think In-N-Out's Double-Double Animal Style is the best fast-food burger pound for pound.
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I haven’t eaten any of these
I need one of those double double animal style
IM NOT GONNA KEEP REPEATING MYSELF. I SAID NO MORE ALVIN AND I MEANT IT. BEING FAT ISNT A QUALIFICATION.
And of course Alvin os the only one with a bj face in the thumbnail. GET HIM OUT!!!!
Three certainties in life: death, taxes, and George burning himself
Was wondering about this myself. I am starting to think it is performance art
And Kenji throwing science and math into cooking.
idk how they let that dude on the show, he didnt steam that burger he boiled it
So true hahaha! 😂😂
@@godtroll749 "that dude" lmaoo smh
He'd be a better host than Alvin's un entertaining ass.
Kenji is SO rightfully proud of his sauce sleuthing 😂 let that inner nerd out, man!
Kenji pulled out the nerdy food math and plugged a charity at the end of his segment. All we needed was a POV shot and we'd basically be watching his RUclips channel.
@ 13:51
washing and rinsing the sauce to get the relish ratio...
@@informal_variant ass
i was not ready for a side of math porn i didnt know i needed.
George Motz is in a league of his own. A scholar, an educator and just a ball of jokes and charisma with sideburns. May we not take his burger kingdom for granted!
I had him sign my book "oh shit, thats hot" he never fails to burn himself.
When are they going to let George's history expertise and Kenji's scientific expertise combine to create the perfect burger?
Or the perfect channel
7:40 George spilling mustard on his shirt, burning himself, the smoke alarm going off, raw hamburger meat shot on the floor. I feel that is a pretty good analogy of the year 2020.
Underrated comment already.
Lol and don't forget the hairdryer in his face
This needs more like
Its just mustard it comes right off -tim heidecker kitchen tip
You know it's a stale meme when you're talking about last year.
really cool to see their different approaches to food with George as a historian, Alvin as a pure chef and Kenji as a scientist!
🔥🔥🔥
Kenji is also a pure chef, he’s been on many food network shows and owns a few restaurants
@@lilaznballaz1022 I know he is a chef with a lot of experience working in restaurants unlike George, but my point was more that he approaches food from a different angle than Alvin (who owns several restaurants) because he is also a scientist and writer, whereas Alvin is known for being a chef more exclusively.
@@esmedientes you're right!! love this collaboration.
I feel like alvin's was weak compared to the others way too much lettuce and wonky seasoning. It was way more of an interpretation than an imitation. The other two were SPOT ON
Motz is the man. I love everything he does. Gotta give credit to Alvin though for knowing to put him on camera and give him an audience. Had Alvin never done that most of us wouldn't know the glory that is The Motz.
“you won’t need math in the real world”
kenji: hold my burger
There are actually many little practical things you can do with math like that
Kenji full-on reverse engineering In-N-Out sauce deserves honorary doctorate
It's thousand islands dressing
Or a GED
@@Sahentry nah. Thousand island is too sweet
It's junior high level math man, cool to see him really try to nail it and nerding out, but calm down.
@@patrickmcpartland1398 Still, it shows a good amount of ingenuity that he would do it that way.
"Ready for a little bit of a history lesson?"
Always George...always
"nostalgia is part of the flavour profile" - as usual, George hits the nail on the head. So true, and not just of burgers
That’s for sure! My 3 favorite fast foods have a half century of memories wrapped around them. Far better times.
Nostolgia is definitely a big part.
Big mac: Grandma treated me when she took care of me as a kid.
Double double: Hanging out with the boys after class in High School.
White Castle: Really bad part of Chicago I shouldn't have been in.
The amount of times I’ve ended up at White Castle after a concert is uncalculable at this point.
I never had In n out or a double double until I was 30. I can confirm it's possibly the best burger I've ever had even without the nostalgia.
I have never had that double double burger. We dont have them here. Plenty of burger joints, just no In n Out's
Kenji's scientific background really comes through in this video. I love it, it's what made me a fan of his videos in the first place.
Did he do a first person view of this burger?
He's looking really rough these days. Like he's been on a bender for the last 6 months.
@@JimNortonsAlcoholism because he grew his hair? Lol
@@hensonjefd8681 Do you not notice his red bloated face and bloodshot eyes?
@@JimNortonsAlcoholism i don't know man, he looked like he gained some weight and maybe like he started smoking weed, which is understandable since it was pandemic and he just moved to a new house iric. probably just stressed. actually he kind of looks younger with the long hair. he looks a bit unhealthier but also younger at the same time. it's weird. but i wouldn't say he looks like he was on a bender. and he's still productive. i wouldn't worry. people go through these phases. it wasn't televised as much before we had youtube and vlogs and a pandemic that made us watch creators do diy vids at home mostly without professional lighting and make up which often would operate in a studio setting instead or at least some professionals in the background.
It just doesn't feel right not being mounted to Kenji's head at this point
@@0mnicide Mounted ON. Grammar is important Cathy
yeah it's super weird seeing his head
"Alright Kenji you're up...."
"If my calculations are correct we are going to be working with 38% ketchup and 62% mayo.."
classic
i love how your big mac looks exactly like the picture - and the one you get at McDonald's never does.
there is no butter on a bm! it is simply pressing the bun on a flat top toaster. Or what Kroc said, carmalized bun
George Motz, pure legend! I love everything with Motz, you could make a show with him peeling carrots, talking about anything
for 10 hours and i would watch every minut.
The man exudes this seemingly effortless authenticity and warmth with how passionate he is about burgers
I've been watching his show and he includes his son in 1 episode and his daughter has been behind the camera. He seems like an awesome Dad
He'd burn himself peeling carrots.
As a 7+ year in n out vet, you really did the double double justice kenji. Just so everyone knows you can always ask for extra spread for nothing on the side ;) you’ll never be able to perfectly replicate it without the specially made buns though, they are designed to toast perfectly and actually be stretchier and softer by heating, while just the edge stays toasty. Whole grill is the way to go my man and you nailed it.
INO alum here, too! Loved seeing one of my favorite nerdy chefs (even though he doesn’t like being called that) do a double-double justice! Though, because working board was my specialty, I had to slightly critique the fact that we’d remove the spine of the lettuce and add the tomato after the pickles but before the lettuce. 😉 But he definitely made his burger smile! 🍔
I applaud anyone that works at in and out! There’s one down the street from my work and that place is packed and the drive thru is wrapped around and onto the road! I’m a weekly in and out eater lol
I've said it once and I'll say it again, you've got three different yet complimentary styles of cooking here from The Scientist, The Historian, and the Minimalist
Kenji crushes this. Love the mathematical approach to figuring out the mix. Filtering out and weighing the pickle relish? genius!
Kenji looking like a proud 1st time father showing off his sauce equation ☺️
Kenji looking like an alcoholic. He needs rehab.
George, Kenji, and Alvin all in one video! Welcome back, guys!
long live tekkadan
For me, the most nostalgic burger is the A&W Papa Burger. Up to 2/3 of a pound of burger perfection, served with fries and a big frosty mug of their signature root beer - it was like heaven on earth.
Kenji, if you're reading this, it's so hard finding good, relatable, videos to relate systems of equations to the real world for my algebra students, without boring them in the process. Thank you! You are awesome! I am going to turn this into an activity where the students' goal is to figure out the secret recipe themselves. Thank you!
16:40 Man's voice deepened after just one bite of that burger, thats how good it was
I love Mr.Motz's enthusiasm and the just right energy level he gives off. You just know that even if he wasn't with First We Feast, he would still be making Hyper Regional burgers at home for his family. I love the guy - hugely positive vibes from him.
My parents went on dates to the local White Castle in late-30s Indianapolis. They began taking my brother and I in the early 50s (8 years before I saw my first McDonalds). These were special days. At 77, my first choice for fast food is a bag of sliders with onion chips (followed by Long John Silver and Rallys).
14:51 kenji looks absolutely adorable while he's beaming with pride on his chalkboard math for the in-n-out condiment
One thing never changes, I watch an episode of The Burger Show and suddenly I'm STARVING!!!
Kenji's hair is magnificent, the way it flows when he takes a bite of the burger in the intro, chefs kiss
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“Imagine it’s the 1940s and you step inside a White Castle.” Uhh...I’d rather not 💀
lol
I don't get it
Probably not the ideal situation bro 😂
That sauce recipe explanation from Kenji was the best thing I ever heard. I need my daily work tasks described like that to convince my boss I work too much.
That was the most Kenji thing ever with the formula for spread, and I'm here for it.
Kenji's spread math is amazing!!!
This is my first burger video and im so glad I tuned in, you guys are awesome. And the boop transition was perfect thank you for that.
Alvin, you are an absolute gem of a host! The little "boop" at the end of the jingle had me rolling.
Not only do I just love George Motz for how funny and entertaining he is, I also find his knowledge about hamburger history absolutely fascinating. Can I adopt him as my uncle?
The fact that George is NOT the host of "The Burger Show" is a tragedy beyond reckoning.
It makes no sense. Alvin must know some dirty, awful secret about someone high up.
You know he already hosts Burger Scholar Sessions on FWF, right? There's room for 2 burger shows...
@@monkeytube138 Yeah but don't you think that burger scholar and burger show should honestly just be one show? Alvin has the personality of a potato, I'd listen to George over him anyway.
Thank you Mr. Motz, for helping bring me White Castle to Canada. I ended up having to make yeast buns since that's all I had, but it was white Castle sliders regardless. I also burned my hand topping/transferring the first burger from spatula to the plate too, even after watching you do it.
I love this so much! 3 people with such contrast! One looking from the past, one in the present and one trying to go further, trying to improve the future of burgers! These trios are ideal for this show
"How hardcore are you going, are you doing the five holes in the patties and everything?"
Does Kenji even know who he's talking to?
If you watched Kenji recreation of the McRib, you know he's as hardcore, he's just not used to meeting other people like him
@@TheDocPlatypus How about his long form articles back at Serious Eats?
There is a reason Babish keeps mentioning J Kenji Lopez-Alt.
Haha George and I have known and worked with each other for over a decade now. I just wanted to set him up for what I knew would be the right answer ;)
@@recoil53 It's because he just rips off Kenji and Chef John and get millions of views on their work. Don't hate the playa hate the game.
@@larrybirdstrashtalk8272 "Takes inspiration from" is different from "rips off" :)
George is the ElectroBOOM of food RUclipsrs. I have no doubts that he’s an expert but he still manages to hurt himself and curse several times per video
I love this comparison so much lmao, spot on
Difference is ElectroBOOM most likely does it intentionally for comedic effect because he of all people knows electricity is only to be messed with safely
You are three of my favorite people. I just finished trying all three. You absolutely nailed it and refined it in one. Awesome.
I love how Kenji can't help himself but to be scientifically educational
lmao it’s funny he’s pulling a dad joke but being educational gotta love him
Kenji's burger had me salivating (strongly) as soon as the burgers got flipped.
who the make-up girl tho
all 3 of them nerding out to each of their own designated burgers is so funny, entertaining, and all looks f-in delicious
I love each of these guys so much. They’re passionate about burgers and food in general and I always learn something from watching them. :)
This is my favorite youtube fix ever! 3 chefs killed it. great job. MOAR!!!
McDonalds actually lists the ingredients for the big mac sauce on their website (in the UK, not sure about US) and he's right, no tomato ketchup.
Kenji orders his In-N-Out burgers like I do and I've never felt more validated.
Same. Animal style fries are a rookie mistake but animal style double double is where it’s at.
@@KnivingDispodia the fries are better. The spread is meant to be put on cheese fries
@@notarxw nah it’s too messy to eat. Ask for animal style dressing on the side and dip em now we’re talkin. But if you ask for animal style fries you just get a messy heap of garbage.
@@KnivingDispodia ur trippin animal style fries with chopped chili’s is where it’s at.. learn how to use a fork bucko lol!
@@BIGREDTECH Homie it’s good that’s meant to be eaten with your hands. Get real. I ain’t tryna use a million fuckin napkins or plastic forks to eat a burger and some fries. This ain’t 311 Madison park
Been Cooking and chasing Burgers for 20+ years I love all the work you guys do with the videos. I wish I was capable of hanging out and just cooking with people who share the love and passion for Burgers like you guys. I think Burgers are becoming more noticed in the last year and it's really awesome, probably a direct result of the content you guys put out!
Yo I love Kenji. Haven't seen him before and he was so proud of how he deconstructed the sauce. That was so wholesome!
Kenji has the same In-N-Out order as me.
Except I usually only ask for the whole grilled because I'm embarrassed for some reason to ask for both 😂 and count it as a bonus if they accidentally give me both.
Always fresh french fries hack: Tell them you want your fries unsalted. This forces them to dump a new batch of fries for your order. Ask for salt packets at the window. Rinse/repeat for the rest of your life.
Damn. Great idea.
This has been known for a long time, I do this at McDonald’s, and it pisses them off it’s great
@@chadgrov Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. It's been at least 10 years since I heard of the idea. Figured this was the right time/audience to catch it again.
@@mr.anderson8211 I’ve also asked for it unsalted and they just ignored it and gave me a regular batch before, and it’s not worth the time and effort to bust someone’s balls making minimum wage but it does work!
Except if you don’t salt them right away, the salt doesn’t stick to the fries the way it does when they leave the grease.
Love when these three get together man 👏🏽👏🏽
Love it when you bring all 3 of them together!
Kenji’s sauce formula is one of the most impressive culinary feats I’ve ever seen.
Love the vibes and good atmosphere in this vid. Really enjoyable
George absolutely nailed that snap transition 3:02
This made me remember just how much I missed Alvin, holy cow. Kenji's been posting, most of the burger show has been George, but Alvin has been somewhat MIA and I am elated hes back
Alvin sucks.
@@CasperInkyMagoo ah I see, this man has taken inspiration from the gaming journalists who played Doom Eternal, and has gone Full Baby Mode. Very impressive to see a toddler put together a sentence as complex as (noun-adjective)
George's show is called Burger Scholar Sessions and is a separate show. The Burger Show has always been Alvin.
@@thewhorocks515 well holy shit. How did did never notice that. I thought he was just another half of the burger show, he used to be like a year ago, I just never noticed they started calling the bits with just him "burger scholar sessions" I guess I saw "burger" and my brain auto-completed the rest lol
I’ve watched a lot of Kenjis videos and I was expecting him to come up with some BS burger but I was extremely impressed. The Demi glacé cheese was insane
As much as this was a giant love letter to all things classic burgers and burger history... if you add mustard to one of those sliders, isn't that more of a Krystal thing than a White Castle thing? Like that's one of the critical differences between the two. 7:32
It's hard to nitpick too much when y'all did so much work recreating these as accurately as possible. So much love. Have you all done a breakdown of the Krystal/White Castle situation? I'd watch that in a heartbeat.
Yeah, White Castle sliders definitely do not have yellow mustard and if you get mustard packets there, it is always dusseldorf mustard. At least in Chicago and the suburbs, anyways. Maybe it's different in other states.
I really love Motz's energy in these. It's always fun learning stuff from him :)
Love Ruby's comments on how George looked in his White Castle uniform.👍🏼
Authentically idiotic, as opposed to faking it?! 😂
Looking forward to Wendy's returning to the UK next month after about 20 years since they closed their last store...
I've been watching his show and its awesome seeing him and his kids having fun. I dont think shes been on camera but you can hear her. Plus, she gets to sample all the burgers her dad makes.
If school food was like this, I would enjoy school ALOT more.
With the amt of time u spend on utube u could learn to make food and prepare stuff ahead of time..find the right teacher w a microwave too lol
Everyone would lol
If my wife could cook like this I'd like my wife A LOT more
A lot is two words.
Well, If school was about Burger I would be the first to arrive in class every single day.
Another phenomenal episode. Lots to learn and lots to drool for ❤️
Just had my first In-N-Out burger yesterday...very nice! But that White Castle slider looked fantastic! So glad you are back!
Alvin has really improved a lot as a host over the years. Really love to see him do his thing!
You could not be more wrong. He needs to go, and fast.
@@CasperInkyMagoo dude you ok?
@@CasperInkyMagoo Get your glasses checked, Magoo.
I think he kinda hampers George when they’re together. Honestly I’m here for George and Kenji
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說到食物，不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反，他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔，切塊，調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類，在食品市場上被忽略的部分家用蔬菜和肉類，並且學會了使用芳香的木煙（如山核桃，山核桃和豆科灌木
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The technician, the historian and the rock star, at it again!!
I know George is there, but what about the other two?
I love all three of you guys. Thank you for this.
In N Out's veggies are the best in the fast food game, their onion game is as strong as it comes! Super impressed how they keep the whole onions so perfect.
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!💖🖤❤️今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上，強者，富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落，氏族，城鎮，城市和鄉村中的弱者，無`'守和貧窮成員。然而，人類的生存意願迫使那些被拒絕，被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式，並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物，不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反，他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔，切塊，調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類，在食品市場上被忽略的部分家用蔬菜和肉類，並且學會了使用芳香的木煙（如山核桃，山核桃和豆科灌木 來調味g食物煮的時候1&!/ 1620841718
Math student: I'll never use algebra in the real world.
Kenji: Hold my burger!
Kenji's sauce math was the highlight of this video. You are the sauce detective.
I worked at Best Foods in 1998, the factory in Quebec who makes peanut butter, mayonaise, Mc Chicken Sauce AND the Big Mac Sauce. I don't know about the spices but one thing for sure 100%, it's not relish in the ingredients, it's diced pickles. I unloaded trains filled with barrels of pickles...
George Motz is James May but American and instead of cars he loves burgers
And he has energy, and he's adventurous, and he puts on costumes, and he works with his family. But yes, he has wild, grey hair and he's positive
He's done this one properly.
Alvin’s on camera humour/comedic timing has gotten a lot better over time :)
I love how much effort they put into these burgers !!!!
Please never stop swearing haha. The humour and casual feel of this show is the fucking best
George has such a chaotic energy it's really fun to watch him
spastic
Every time I see Alvin or George I salivate imagining what they’re going to throw at us!
Alvin is the worst
You salvate when you see Alvin?
@@hensonjefd8681 😂
Sooo fantastic!!
Loved it!
As a St. Louis native, born and raised.. This has to be the best recreation of the whitties slider. Nice work👍👊
Always remember Fast Food stuff is finetuned to the country. Eating a Big Mac in the USA and one in Spain will not taste the same.
They also finetune colors for cars based on countries and so on.
there's no way in hell my local McD has caramelized onions in their big mac sauce, I would know, I eat on average 2 big macs a week
Your correct. His sauce is off abit, although I'm sure it tastes great. McDonalds themselves tell you the real recipe here - ruclips.net/video/rcu4Bj3xEyI/видео.html
That inner-nerd analysis of the In N Out spread is exactly what I love about Kenji's style
5:48 fantastic audio post-production masking the tray hitting the mic
Mc'd uses dehydrated onions that sit in a kettle all day and night for theirs.
Kenji is the Burger Heisenberg.
Love this episode. Each of the three of them doing what they do best. Great show.
Great show boys! I'm a burger guy (like who isn't) and stumbled on you in the RUclips-verse. Probably my biggest win is finding each of you individually and getting the benefits of each of your expertise. I'm SO lucky!!!!
George - man I WANT to do that but I got to find the energy. Nicely done and extra points for showmanship!
Kenji - HAHAHA your nerd energy kills me. Thanks for that.
Alvin - today buddy, I made the sauce. I'm not a huge Big Mac guy anymore but yeah there was a time. I have about one a year now. Today I fired up the Kamado to inferno level and got some glorious medium ground chuck. Salted those puppies and they hit the grill. But. The Sauce. I made the Sauce. DUDE YOU NAILED IT. Thank you! Geez even my wife likes it!
Thanks again fellows. Thanks for being entertaining, motivating and inspiring!!!
Love the airplane overhead since my go-to In-and-Outs when in California are just by LAX, SFO and SJC and there’s always planes landing!
These 3 titans getting together for an epic throwdown do history, beef, and delicious goodness. Keep these videos coming.
Kenji has everyone in line behind him rolling thier eyes when he orders
Best video yet fellas! Keep them rolling!
It just wouldn't be a GM segment without a little anarchy.
Alvin trying to get DMCA'd for using a jingle. That custom bun was nice!
Kenji with the outdoor segment! Nailing it. I loved the sauce math.
I want those sliders ☺️☺️☺️
Kenji is the G.O.A.T !!
n oj.in on loi8
George Motz!!! missedthatgenius!!
World needs more George Motz
I love that Kenji came up with a Systems of Equations to solve for In-N-Outs Special Sauce. Like a Boss.
If McDonald’s are not chiffonading their lettuce, they sure as hell are not caramelising the onions for their special sauce!!
No way in hell they are caramelising anything at McDonald's. I refuse to believe they put THAT much effort into the sauce.
@@Sir-Shibal that sauce existed way before caramelising onions was even a thing
@@kevin-apemeetsgirl6070 Good point!!
I mean I'm fairly certain the Mac sauce is a manufactured product. I.e., each location just receives a giant case of it each week that was made by robots in a factory somewhere rather than each individual kitchen actually making their sauce from base ingredients. That being the case, there's an absolute possibility that the manufacturing plant just has a giant machine that automates the whole process and can caramelize literally tons of onions at once, OR McD's could just bulk-source pre-caramelized onion and garlic paste for cheap from a different manufacturer. Ingredients like that become dirt-cheap when you remove the step of having to pay individual workers by the hour to make them in small batches.
@@pennyfarting I don’t think anyone is suggesting that someone is out the back of the restaurant making batches of sauce, I just don’t believe that the caramelisation would even be a part of the mass production process. As I said, the sauce has been around for so long, before we even started to caramelise onions. I’m sure there are some cooked onions in there (likely boiled or steamed), but no way is there some delicious slow caramelised onions in there