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Can Germany ramp up its lithium supply lines? | DW News
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- Published on Dec 1, 2024
- The EU depends on China for materials critical to the green transition, but wants to strengthen its own supply chain. One minerals producer is set to start processing lithium in Germany in 2024. What obstacles does it face in ramping up production?
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Forward thinking to for the EU reduce dependence upon mineral imports
Yes, by buying their lithium from the EU country Brazil.
The main hindrance are those people who call themselves "environmentalists". China doesn't have problem with these kinds of people.
Yes.
Of course it can. Schulz came to Serbia on previous week to force mining, although the people are protesting it and are against it. But you would not write about it...
You know its more about profit than environmentalism when theyre talking about one of the most ecologically devastating minerals to mine as a "positive for the EU" 🙃
The music when Alice Yu spoke was way too loud!
If EU with Germany in lead wants to successfully compete and survive Chinese unmatched battery industry including EVs, it must do it on mass scale with large EU subsidies. There's simply no other way to compete with China's value mix with low prices and already above average quality. China has planned this industry change for a very long time to become even more dependent and relevant world economy to one day win over USA and western world. Western world needs to become competitive with China otherwise China will own and manufacture everything. It already does most of the stuff world needs, so some kind of political balance must be created and agreed on. In my opinion EU needs to do both, find right agreement with China and develop its own battery and electric industry. All of that needs a lot of time and money, something what China did very well from 2000s in order to dominate the world. Maybe Germany and EU should start learning from that!
Why should people worry about China's dominance on this industry? China is always willing to sell batteries at a cheap price to the EU countries, provided that the EU does not sanction China for unifying Taiwan.
There are million ways for China to lose face and Taiwan isn't even the biggest concern. It has been shown that China is as reckless as Russia and decoupling between China and western countries is unavoidable at this point.
Is the raw Lithium (From Brazil) of a reasonable quality? Is this battery plant also looking into new types of batteries? Danke u. Viele Gluck! ❤🇩🇪
Forget Serbian Lithium! 🇷🇸
Does EU want to?
RUclips blocks way normal comments now its crazy.
Kingsley
Germany needs to do a lot to build its secure supply chain, such as making its own lithium batteries, producing its own oil, and making its own nuclear materials.
Of course, the simplest thing is to build a virtual machine Germany based on the United States, with Troy von der Leyen acting as its agent.
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European mineral wealth
European not german
Incinerator devices built into
EVS , Mobile Phones etc .
The Fire Department is working frantically on Water Tanks big enough to extinguish Lithium Battery Fires .
Yeah my last 7 phones all burned down... yours too?
So. Youve no ore, no factory and the product is cheap?
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If you need lithium so much, dig it in your own backyard.
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These aspirations can be fulfilled only if Europe becomes a Federation. Current European states including Germany must transform to regional authorities.
Why can a German company not process lithium without dissolving the key political unit of our time, the nation state?
@@sebastianeckert1947 Because nation states and their ruling classes have different and conflicting interests. Often they are trying to undermine each other. Only a federal united Europe could compete with USA and China. Otherwise the short sighted "national" interests will make Europe irrelevant.
@@gracchusbabeuf9868 It's a fair discussion to have, but "processing lithium" is too specific an issue to make it a condition of - Lithium can be processed in many different political contexts, is all I'm saying.
without BRICKS , partly Russia will be every natural resources excessively expensive, EU will not be price competitive and for us , inhabitants in EU too expensive, there will be poverty
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@@dzurfluh2156he also probably thinks that the EU will freeze this winter too 😂
😂 wishful thinking. The EU had access to cheap resources in Russia and decided to self sabotage for US imperialism. 🤦🏾♂️
Prefer Russian imperialism? Good luck with that.
Yes just give Putin what he wants and then he will stop
/EndSarcasm
Edit: I guess you forgot Putin was holding Europe's energy supply to ransom?
Yeah always a good idea to partner with Russia 🤦♂️ask the oil companies how reliable Russia is as a partner.
Great logic. America the evil capitalist. Could this more of Russian disinformation or just illogic of a individual
In fact they would try to make Trump lose American elections, cause he might go easy on Russia ।
Bro Russia is the imperialist aggressor and the US and allies are the defenders of freedom and peace. These facts need to be stated.
EU secured it's future resources thanks to Ukraine. Cheap labour and resources to exploit.
Can anyone strong enough in the West withstand the might of the Red Dragon, awakening from its slumbers?
The red dragon has made some mistakes that will cause it to slowly diminish into irrelevancy.
First, they stopped the one child per family too late. Right now, China is in a demographic crisis that cannot be averted. In a few decades, its population will be half of what it is now. And, what's worse, more aged than that of Western Europe.
Second, it wasn't able to escape the middle income trap. It has developed quickly, following Deng's reforms, a few decades ago, into the manufacturing hub of the world. In the manufacturing sector, it is really top notch - no other country has similar knowledge in that area. However, it hasn't significantly automated its manufacturing sector, nor was it able to develop truly advanced technology. The vast majority of Chinese citizen still live in the countryside, in abject poverty. The few hundred millions in cities are mostly employed in low paying manufacturing jobs. Only a tiny fraction, compared to China's population, is working in high paying, knowledge-driven jobs. Even if China's population is huge, and its number of STEAM graduates, as an absolute value, is also huge, as a percentage of its population it is a bit low, compared to most other developed countries.
Third - this being what stopped Chinese growth in its tracks - Xi reverted all of Deng's reforms. China is slowly returning to a strictly centrally planned economy, with no free market mechanisms, as the Chinese private sector is increasingly harshly milked by the Chinese government for money.
These three things combined make for the perfect storm. An aging population can't drive a manufacturing-based economy. You need young, strong and physically fit workers for manufacturing. As you age, you inevitably become slower and weaker, your eyesight becomes poorer, your manual abilities decrease - and you're no longer effective at assembling circuit boards or machine parts, nor does your back allow you to carry heavier weights. Low income jobs don't motivate people to get married and make children. In fact, that's a recognized problem in China - young people no longer get married, and even if they do, almost none of them stick to the new policy of three children per family. This is what's going to abruptly reduce China's population and cause it to age massively, over the next few decades. Also, with Deng's reforms reverted, the state no longer has money for social programs, and as such there's little financial incentives that the state can provide for would-be parents.
On top of all this there's a slow but steady process triggered by the pandemic and sustained by Xi's restrictive, business-unfriendly counter-reform. Foreign companies move part of their business out of China and back home - usually the part that's most technologically advanced and paying most. Also, since China has become more expensive than neighboring countries, while at it, they move other, less well paying and more labor intensive parts of their businesses into cheaper neighboring countries. The rate at which this is happening is slow, but steady, causing a similarly slow but steady decrease of business in China, leaving the state with even less money.
That's a pretty full plate for the single party to deal with. There really isn't any solution to at least the demographic problem and there's zero political will to address the other problems, as this would loosen the grip of the single party over the country. This causes another problem: autocratic rule is always associated with a high level of corruption - which China is rife with, which further amplifies China's problems.
They're now living off the growth and reserves that have been built up in the decades since Deng was in power. Once those are finished, they'll do what soviet Russia did in the nineties last century: go bankrupt. It took the soviets several decades to waste all that they plundered in Germany and Eastern Europe after WW2 (scientists and skilled workers included) and what they got during the war from the UK and the US. China will also have some time before its resources run out. But it _will_ happen, the same way it happened with the soviets.
It's actually a Red Lizard pretending to be the Red Dragon.
@@JigilJigil It absolutely had the potential to be the mightiest dragon there ever was one. But it squandered it, by not adapting to the times. It attempted to stay an imperial power when the entire world around it switched to democracy. No democracy is perfect, and especially some in China's neighborhood are very far from perfect. But any democracy is performing better, economically, than even the best led autocracy.
@@a0flj0read your take. Load of rubbish. Have u ever read the counter points to your arguments?
@@a0flj0 That's true.
Lol the greatest mega EV producing factories are destined to be in india
Nice dream. Keep dreaming
@@AnimeLingri bruh u want eauropean cars spending your half life's salaries lol
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Absurdity, much like lithium in Ukraine part of reason for war . When in fact what is there is equivalent to one year worth of the largest S. American lithium mine production. Which would make it unprofitable to mine. Lithium in these proven and unproven reserve not going anywhere.
As Indian, i can see why German Shepherd bark so much on us.
As a German, I don't know quite what you mean 😮