Lifting line theory [Aerodynamics #16]

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024
  • In this lecture, we derive Prandt's famous Lifting Line Theory. Essentially, this theory models a finite-wing + wing tip vortices as a horseshoe vortex, where the wing is replaced by a vortex and the strength distribution along the vortex represents the wing's lift distribution. We go over the example for an elliptic distribution of vortex strength and why that distribution is particularly important to Aerodynamics.
    Free downloadable notes (PDF with white background) can be found at my website: sites.udel.edu...

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  • @windsurfingphd
    @windsurfingphd Год назад +7

    I am a retired computer engineering professor, and have been building and flying model aircraft since my childhood from kit plans. But, now I have time in my hands, I started learning the fundamentals of aerodynamics to be able to design my own model aircraft, and understand the concepts of AoA, lift and drag etc tied to a design. This is by far the best lecture I have seen on lifting line theory period. I have seen others in RUclips, and read articles and book chapters, but this is the best :-)) Can you please prepare another video (if you have time, of course), and give us a good example of how to design an entire aircraft design, including the design goals, airfoil selection, moments, angle of wing incidence, tail design etc because I believe this example will connect all the dots of your very articulate lectures. Thanks again.

    • @tom_winguill
      @tom_winguill Год назад +1

      I vote for this request. Please do a lecture series on aircraft design professor. It will really make this channel complete.

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words! I am certainly looking to expand the content of the channel, and will definitely consider something more geared towards flight mechanics/aircraft design. (I guess, first, I would have to learn how to design an aircraft!)

  • @rolandotillit2867
    @rolandotillit2867 9 месяцев назад

    Fantastic explanation for the logic and how the logic determines the math. You sir, truly understand because of the clarity in your explanation.

  • @reubenmatthew3442
    @reubenmatthew3442 8 дней назад

    This helped me a lot. Thank you so much!!

  • @setsototitipana8433
    @setsototitipana8433 2 года назад +2

    Loving the series with every video😍 but sometimes it's hard to see the numbers and some parameters used in equations😩 if only the notes were given in the description to make it easy to follow along. But the explanation in general is 👌👌 I am loving it

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  Год назад +2

      Great suggestion! I've linked my website where the notes can be downloaded in each video description.

  • @suheladesilva2933
    @suheladesilva2933 22 дня назад

    Hello professor, thanks a lot for your video. I have one question, how would you determine the value of Gamma nought for an elliptical lift distribution. Thanks in advance.

  • @flth1040
    @flth1040 4 месяца назад +1

    There is an error in integral calculation in 15:28. Bounds of integral must be from pi to 0 otherwise lift force will be negative.

  • @osamaarefi6770
    @osamaarefi6770 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thnx prof you saved my day❤

  • @jonasdondi698
    @jonasdondi698 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Sir for this. I have a question at 16:16. Where did the minus sign go for the final equation for induced angle of attack?

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  2 года назад

      Good eye Jonas! I should have dropped the minus sign slightly above this on the gamma term at around 15:26.

  • @stasiekpiekarski
    @stasiekpiekarski 2 года назад +1

    Why in Biot-Savart Law (4:00 ) you divide by 4 not by 2? There is:
    v=Gamma/(4*pi*h)
    not v=Gamma/(2*pi*h)?
    Is it an error or I'm missing something?
    2*pi*h is the circle length and multiplied by velocity gives circulation.
    Two my knowledge 4 in the denominator appears im the following form:
    dv=Gamma r x dl /(4*pi*r**2)

    • @Mi-nr3wp
      @Mi-nr3wp 2 года назад +1

      For a semi infinite (0=>infinity), the induced velocity is half that of the infinite conditions (-infinity=>infinity)

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  2 года назад +1

      Sorry I was late to this and thanks to @Mi for covering it!

    • @stasiekpiekarski
      @stasiekpiekarski 2 года назад

      @@prof.vanburen Thank you both for the answer! Great lecture!

  • @shrishkumar6018
    @shrishkumar6018 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much sir!

  • @romboom2405
    @romboom2405 3 года назад +1

    Good morning sir ! Thanks for this amazing lecture
    Regarding the discrete solution of LLT do you know why control/collocation point are chosen to be at 3/4 chord. The reason is usually to ensure flow tangency and recover the 2D incompressible airfoil slope but I never found any mathematical answer about the second one.
    Thanks for your answer

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  2 года назад +1

      Hi! Sorry for the late reply. Can you expand on your question regarding the 3/4 chord? I am not sure I'm following.

  • @gloxe1282
    @gloxe1282 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for the videos Sir! this is very helpful. Do you have any recommended reference for me to see an example for the detailed explanation for the process of using Lifting Line Theory with a General Lift Distribution (in a tapered wing if possible). This would be very helpful. Again, Thank you soo much for your videos sir! This is very helpful.

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome and glad you enjoy them! A good place to start would be Anderson's Fundamentals of Aerodynamics book, it's really stellar.

    • @gloxe1282
      @gloxe1282 2 года назад

      @@prof.vanburen Thank you for the answer, Sir! I have another question, if i want to use LLT for a tapered wing with the steps that you showed in 19:26, do i have to calculate the Fourier Series for the specific wing shape?
      or
      the steps applies to all planform wing shape (the first step particularly, where we assume with an elliptical wing distribution)? (which means i can use the elliptical distribution as a start despite the planform wing difference), but from here i dont have a clear view on how it will end up to be the distribution of the tapered wing instead of the elliptical one.
      I am confused at this. Thank you so much for your hard work!

  • @davidbeckschulte8246
    @davidbeckschulte8246 3 года назад

    6:40 why would gama(z) be an ellipse?
    love your content by the way, thanks for reading (sorry for my bad English)

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  3 года назад

      Hi and thanks for the kind words! At this point in the video, nothing forces gama(z) to be an ellipse. When you add up the contribution of an infinite number of horseshoe vortices along the lifting line, you consider the induced velocity at a point from all the neighbors, which results in a curve distribution of gama. However, assuming elliptical gama distributions is common, and that leads to elliptical lift distributions which then leads to the elliptical planform wing.

    • @davidbeckschulte8246
      @davidbeckschulte8246 3 года назад +1

      @@prof.vanburen , thank you for the reply, hope you have a great day

  • @mickolesmana5899
    @mickolesmana5899 3 года назад +1

    And generally, the performance is hindered by reality. Some mad purple titan: "Reality is often disappointing"

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  3 года назад +2

      When the tail perfectly balances the main wing moment...some big dude: "Perfectly balanced, as all things should be"

  • @davidbeckschulte8246
    @davidbeckschulte8246 3 года назад

    could you do a video on sweet wings and the "Mittelefekt"?

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  3 года назад +2

      Oh! To be honest, I had to look up specifically Mittelefekt, which I understand is a term regarding the loss of lift near the root due to spanwise flow on swept wings?
      I certainly can consider a video on three-dimensional flows over finite-span wings after I finish up my Fluid Mechanics series (it's a bit more of an advanced aerodynamics topic). The Airfoils and wings video has some of the flow control devices used to mitigate these effects, but you're right in that I don't ever get into three-dimensional flow details.

    • @davidbeckschulte8246
      @davidbeckschulte8246 3 года назад

      @@prof.vanburen , i don't know if the mittelefekt emerges due to the span wise flow, but as far as I understand it (not very far) it does describe the loss of lifting force near the Roth.
      thanks again for answering, have a good day :)

  • @SaraKhan-uz1vc
    @SaraKhan-uz1vc 3 года назад +1

    somebody make a pdf of this

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  3 года назад +2

      I did! You can download all the videos as PDF notes at my website: sites.udel.edu/vanburen/education

    • @SaraKhan-uz1vc
      @SaraKhan-uz1vc 3 года назад

      @@prof.vanburen oh great thank you!!! one question is it bad if i do the lifting line theory on a swept wing mini aircraft?

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  3 года назад +2

      @@SaraKhan-uz1vc It depends on how mini the aircraft is and the foil geometry. Embedded in lifting line theory is thin airfoil theory. Low Reynolds number foils tend to be thicker, and that moves further from being considered a "thin airfoil". Also, when viscosity becomes more important then we can no longer assume inviscid. I think it could be okay for a first estimate, but I would be a bit cautious until I knew more about the flyer itself.

    • @SaraKhan-uz1vc
      @SaraKhan-uz1vc 3 года назад

      @@prof.vanburen airfoil is the NACA 4415 with the Reynolds number of 500000. The aircraft is a flying wing the weight limit is 16 OZ!

    • @prof.vanburen
      @prof.vanburen  3 года назад +1

      @@SaraKhan-uz1vc The NACA 4412 airfoil at that Reynolds certainly follows thin-airfoil-theory behavior (specifically the lift-curve slope of 2*pi).
      airfoiltools.com/airfoil/details?airfoil=naca4412-il.
      I think lifting line theory is a good start to estimating performance!