@@neverfoldvlogs I think you mean dynasty. And idk bout that. For that to even be a dream, they need to find their 1A first, and they’re probably not trading for him or acquiring him in free agency… soooo, we’re a ways away still. But I’m excited to watch shit grow
@stoney2271 true, GSW was trying to fleece us, like they did with the Biedrens, Jefferson, Rush trade. Wiggins is too detrimental a contract for his production the last two seasons.
@@philosophik1267Yes this video was wrong. I live in Utah and was hearing about this potential trade all summer. Brandon podziemski was not included or else the trade would've happened
Local Utah reporter interviewed Kyles mom (whose tweets started all the rumors) and the situation isn't halfly as bad as media made it sound originally. Yes, he is estranged with his family but it sounds like the mom has not always been very positive influence in his life. Also he and his girlfriend started dating a lot later than was claimed in media and she never was his babysitter or they didn't even meet very many times when they were really young. They have big age cap though, that's true.
I think Flip looks more like Olynyk than Markkanen - actually had some really nice highlights at summer league (VERY versatile ball handling/passing/shooting big. But other than that and your mistakenly thinking GSW was willing to give up Kuminga, Moody AND Podz and two picks (when that was just Danny's wishlist lol), pretty good analysis :)
@@neverfoldvlogs maybe, maybe not. Kelly’s a ten-year vet. Who knows what Flip becomes. Regardless that’s not the point - I was simply referencing play styles, nothing more. And they have a lot in common in terms of the type of player they are
Uhhh dude what are you talking about? The Warriors didn’t offer ANY of that. No Podz, no Kuminga lol… it was Moody, salary filler, and only two picks (‘28 being the one with any big value). Ainge was looking for 4 picks and a young prospect. Or 2 picks and multiple young prospects. The negotiations were over before they began - you should do some more research there. You posted what the Jazz were demanding, not what the Warriors were offering 🤦🏻♂️
@@Rsadidit yeah GSW are in a tough spot. I don’t blame Dunleavy for not selling the farm for Lauri and a final run with Curry. But that’s what Ainge does best of all - exploit desperate teams/owners, extracting max max value. Always dealing from a position of strength not weakness. Everyone thought he needed to trade Donovan to NY, right? Nope. Everyone thought he needed to trade Lauri at all… Nope
Avec Danny Ainge c'est direction la loterie pendant 5 ans . A chaque fois il trouveras le moyen de saboter son équipe pour ne pas la faire jouer les playoff.
That Svi " patty mills Eubanks Cody and that big guy in the middle that they got from the Indiana Pacers I forgot his name those are all great pickups for Utah
Meh….Ive seen the “genius” and “promising” moves before. It doesn’t matter. You need a superstar to get past the 2nd round and a superstar, big time all-star and really smart unselfish players/veterans with great skills to make it to the Finals let alone win. I am a Jazz fan, but I realize Stockton and Malone are the closest we’ll ever get. We just happened to run into Michael Jordan. OKC has had young superstars and great drafted talent teams, and have had big free agent signings in its OKC history and only have one Finals appearance 12 years ago to show for it. It is extremely difficult despite OKC makings lots of great moves through various ways with nothing to show for it really.
Utah might just go on a winning streak. Why? Players and coaches want to win and earn big contracts. Very good chance utah is messing with us. Nice part is the Jazz might get lucky 🍀 like the Hawks or pelicans. Just how the lottery works.
I simply do not understand why there is such a stretch to assume the possibility of tanking to get Cooper Flagg. Yea, the kid is awesome, but you got to work with reality. First of all, best draft pick the Jazz have ever had is #2 ever. It is highly unlikely that the Jazz would get the first overall pick and get Flagg. So just live with what life gives and quit the assumption of a total tankover to get that #1 pick. Hard to say how the Jazz will do this coming year. Danny is not building chemistry yet. The players are way too worried about the prospects of being traded and they have been playing like that too. It's hard to put your best forward if you don't know that what you have to offer is even wanted by your team. Sure he has made some great trades, but at what cost when you look at the moral of the rest of the team? If or when he ever gets done with all his trading (and I have no idea what he plans to do with all these draft picks he has, he has way too many of them) and build team chemistry so they can trust in the path moving forward.
Counter point: Jazz have never had the #1 overall pick, and the basketball Gods know that. They've never taken the shortcut and torn it all down... it's time
I think the 1 year from competing should be 2 years from competing for a playoff spot.. Thunder will only get better the next several seasons. West is locked up. Not a sexy video or take but their best shot was trading Lauri for OKC draft picks in late 2020s and trying to rebuild to compete in like 8 years when Thunder get older, break up, age out etc..
So happy you have nothing to do with the FO of the Jazz. Only cowards prepare for almost a decade away once you feel your competition will frade. Who will be your next boogeyman man to avoid, San Antonio?
th Jazz will never win a championship, they always flatter to deceive, they are always built to be aplayoff contender at best but not championship material
I feel like keyonte is overated, his efficiancy was not much better than scoots, and if he was on the terrible blazers at the end of the year, maybe keyonte would have worse efficiancy than scoot. Also his playmaking isnt as natural as you'd want of a guy that role and size.
We all know markenen should've been gone by now, they need a high draft pick. I know cooper is good, but he isnt generational. But, he still is one of the better prospects of the decade. And even if they dont get the first pick, Ace, Dylan Harper, Edgecomb, Khaman are still great. Overall, this draft has good players throughout the lottery. They need as good as a pick as they can get.
So you would have suggested selling low on a top-30 player now, so what… the Jazz will have a 3% better chance at one prospect with all star talent when there are arguably 6-7 of them in this upcoming draft? Makes no sense buddy.
Much harder to start from scratch. The Jazz already have one giant tentpole. And we are gonna lose A LOT of games this year with and without Lauri in the lineup. Look at the first two months of the schedule…
@@psr4wolfPAC Not just for the 1 pick, there is a difference between 4 and 10. Also being 14th in the west does not mean a top pick, they need to be worse than portalnd, chicago, nets, pistons, wizards, charlotte (potentaily), toronto, and atlanta. That's 4 teams that are definite worse than them, and the other 4 might or porbbly will. Also some teams bellow them might also jump a few spots up
Jazz aren’t building a contender but they are building a destiny 🔥
@@neverfoldvlogs I think you mean dynasty. And idk bout that. For that to even be a dream, they need to find their 1A first, and they’re probably not trading for him or acquiring him in free agency… soooo, we’re a ways away still. But I’m excited to watch shit grow
Dynasty, you got to have these young players wanting still on board. Utah got no night life, that’s why most guys leave.
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The scripture really hit home for me today. I truly thank you for sharing.
They didn’t offer kuminga or pod, that’s probably why the offer fell through. Great vid!
According to the video, they did. Also, including Moody and 2026 and 28 1st round draft picks. Was he wrong?
@@philosophik1267 yes he was wrong GSW responded with a package based around moody and Wiggins with picks☠️ Danny Ainge hung the phone up lol
@stoney2271 true, GSW was trying to fleece us, like they did with the Biedrens, Jefferson, Rush trade. Wiggins is too detrimental a contract for his production the last two seasons.
@@philosophik1267Yes this video was wrong. I live in Utah and was hearing about this potential trade all summer. Brandon podziemski was not included or else the trade would've happened
Thanks for a great take on Jazz!
Was a take but.. great?! 😂
I wanted Cody to go to okc, but he's a good wing prospect for any team, so kudos to Utah.
Good video. I think Utah will be a sneaky team.
Why is everyone switching Lauris height and wingspan? I think he is 7 foot with 6'11 wingspan
I hope Taylor Hedricks improve his game next season 💪🔥💪
Local Utah reporter interviewed Kyles mom (whose tweets started all the rumors) and the situation isn't halfly as bad as media made it sound originally. Yes, he is estranged with his family but it sounds like the mom has not always been very positive influence in his life. Also he and his girlfriend started dating a lot later than was claimed in media and she never was his babysitter or they didn't even meet very many times when they were really young. They have big age cap though, that's true.
Bro I think at this point you should make a video about Detroit Pistons being championship contenders
Idk who made those numbers up but bruh collier is not 6’4”💀 he’s 6’1” on a good day
I think Flip looks more like Olynyk than Markkanen - actually had some really nice highlights at summer league (VERY versatile ball handling/passing/shooting big. But other than that and your mistakenly thinking GSW was willing to give up Kuminga, Moody AND Podz and two picks (when that was just Danny's wishlist lol), pretty good analysis :)
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@@neverfoldvlogs maybe, maybe not. Kelly’s a ten-year vet. Who knows what Flip becomes.
Regardless that’s not the point - I was simply referencing play styles, nothing more. And they have a lot in common in terms of the type of player they are
Uhhh dude what are you talking about? The Warriors didn’t offer ANY of that. No Podz, no Kuminga lol… it was Moody, salary filler, and only two picks (‘28 being the one with any big value). Ainge was looking for 4 picks and a young prospect. Or 2 picks and multiple young prospects. The negotiations were over before they began - you should do some more research there. You posted what the Jazz were demanding, not what the Warriors were offering 🤦🏻♂️
Talk about idiotic thinking Ainge would take anything less. Its ok Kerr is going to get fired and Curry about to be out & GSW run is beyond over
@@Rsadidit yeah GSW are in a tough spot. I don’t blame Dunleavy for not selling the farm for Lauri and a final run with Curry. But that’s what Ainge does best of all - exploit desperate teams/owners, extracting max max value. Always dealing from a position of strength not weakness. Everyone thought he needed to trade Donovan to NY, right? Nope. Everyone thought he needed to trade Lauri at all… Nope
Let go jazz
Danny ainge has completely destroyed that team 3 times now.
Your trade package the warriors offered is waaaay off. The jazz wouldve took it if they actually offered that package
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Lauri is 7ft
@@petterituohino6392 shoes, no shoes… lol
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Avec Danny Ainge c'est direction la loterie pendant 5 ans . A chaque fois il trouveras le moyen de saboter son équipe pour ne pas la faire jouer les playoff.
Jazz front office are a bunch of clowns.
That Svi " patty mills Eubanks Cody and that big guy in the middle that they got from the Indiana Pacers I forgot his name those are all great pickups for Utah
Meh….Ive seen the “genius” and “promising” moves before. It doesn’t matter. You need a superstar to get past the 2nd round and a superstar, big time all-star and really smart unselfish players/veterans with great skills to make it to the Finals let alone win. I am a Jazz fan, but I realize Stockton and Malone are the closest we’ll ever get. We just happened to run into Michael Jordan. OKC has had young superstars and great drafted talent teams, and have had big free agent signings in its OKC history and only have one Finals appearance 12 years ago to show for it. It is extremely difficult despite OKC makings lots of great moves through various ways with nothing to show for it really.
Utah might just go on a winning streak. Why?
Players and coaches want to win and earn big contracts.
Very good chance utah is messing with us.
Nice part is the Jazz might get lucky 🍀 like the Hawks or pelicans. Just how the lottery works.
I simply do not understand why there is such a stretch to assume the possibility of tanking to get Cooper Flagg. Yea, the kid is awesome, but you got to work with reality. First of all, best draft pick the Jazz have ever had is #2 ever. It is highly unlikely that the Jazz would get the first overall pick and get Flagg. So just live with what life gives and quit the assumption of a total tankover to get that #1 pick.
Hard to say how the Jazz will do this coming year. Danny is not building chemistry yet. The players are way too worried about the prospects of being traded and they have been playing like that too. It's hard to put your best forward if you don't know that what you have to offer is even wanted by your team. Sure he has made some great trades, but at what cost when you look at the moral of the rest of the team? If or when he ever gets done with all his trading (and I have no idea what he plans to do with all these draft picks he has, he has way too many of them) and build team chemistry so they can trust in the path moving forward.
Counter point: Jazz have never had the #1 overall pick, and the basketball Gods know that. They've never taken the shortcut and torn it all down... it's time
No one can have “way too many picks” 🤦♂️ nor do you not trade someone because it might hurt some feelings…
I think the 1 year from competing should be 2 years from competing for a playoff spot.. Thunder will only get better the next several seasons. West is locked up. Not a sexy video or take but their best shot was trading Lauri for OKC draft picks in late 2020s and trying to rebuild to compete in like 8 years when Thunder get older, break up, age out etc..
So happy you have nothing to do with the FO of the Jazz. Only cowards prepare for almost a decade away once you feel your competition will frade. Who will be your next boogeyman man to avoid, San Antonio?
th Jazz will never win a championship, they always flatter to deceive, they are always built to be aplayoff contender at best but not championship material
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I feel like keyonte is overated, his efficiancy was not much better than scoots, and if he was on the terrible blazers at the end of the year, maybe keyonte would have worse efficiancy than scoot. Also his playmaking isnt as natural as you'd want of a guy that role and size.
They’re dumb as hell and the team keeps getting worse lol
We all know markenen should've been gone by now, they need a high draft pick. I know cooper is good, but he isnt generational. But, he still is one of the better prospects of the decade. And even if they dont get the first pick, Ace, Dylan Harper, Edgecomb, Khaman are still great. Overall, this draft has good players throughout the lottery. They need as good as a pick as they can get.
You should watch David Locke’s episode where he breaks down tanking teams.
On paper (and by the odds-makers) we are already the 14th best team in the west, and the 5-7th worst team in the league.
So you would have suggested selling low on a top-30 player now, so what… the Jazz will have a 3% better chance at one prospect with all star talent when there are arguably 6-7 of them in this upcoming draft? Makes no sense buddy.
Much harder to start from scratch. The Jazz already have one giant tentpole. And we are gonna lose A LOT of games this year with and without Lauri in the lineup. Look at the first two months of the schedule…
@@psr4wolfPAC Not just for the 1 pick, there is a difference between 4 and 10. Also being 14th in the west does not mean a top pick, they need to be worse than portalnd, chicago, nets, pistons, wizards, charlotte (potentaily), toronto, and atlanta. That's 4 teams that are definite worse than them, and the other 4 might or porbbly will. Also some teams bellow them might also jump a few spots up