The 8630 driver is a complete spanner, no attempt to ease the implement up when the tractor starts to loose traction then when he ties to get going, no diff lock enabled. He looks old enough to know better, what a tool!!!!
When the tractor with the front bucket comes out it completes the ensemble for my 2 year old son and he gets so excited!! Thank you for posting all of the videos!!
I watched a local farmers hire help get his D6D dozier stuck while clearing some wetter ground. Sunk it to the top of the tracks due to an inexperienced operator. By the time they got someone who knew what he was doing they had an John Deere 8630, 4840, and 4630 all sunk to the axles. They finally got an old man who worked in construction for years on the dozier. Within 20 minutes he basically screwed that dozier out of that hole. Within an hour he had all the others pulled out as well. An experience operator is key in getting equipment. I was just happy to see they did not hook to the back section of the disk. Seen it happen too many times resulting in bent up disk frames.The man running the 8630 knew not keep digging it down and not hooking it up wrong. Older and wiser!
Lifting the disc all the way would have most likely just buried the disc wheels I agree with rasing it just not all the way plus diff lock and she would have came right out of there MN farming black/clay ground no stranger to getting stuck in the spring time. Plus guy just dumps the clutch and just aboot snuffs her out everytime jeez
@@paulyarek True but the problem many times is the wheels do not raise the implement out of the ground because the wheels sink in the mud instead of raising the implement out of the ground. Not saying that is the case here but I've stuck tractors before and that was the issue holding the tractor in the mud hole.
While scraping sediment out of a pond one very dry summer. I drove the tractor over some organic matter in the pond. Sank immediately to the axle. Worked at it for days trying to dig enough material in front of the wheels to drive it forward. Didn’t work. No trees to winch it out. Tractor was facing the tank dam with a fence on the opposite side. My boss told me to chain two railroad ties to the front of each back wheel. Start the tractor, put it in the lowest gear available. While idling slowly let out the clutch. The back tires slowly climbed up the ties and rolled over so they are now behind the wheels. Just like that the tractor was out of the mud! Awesome! Most amazing feeling!
@bigtractorpower any time we have ever gotten our 8430 stuck when working ground we raised it up, left it unfolded and then unhooked and have always been able to drive away. Then pulled the disc or chisel out with a chain when the tractor was on dryer ground. Great videos love the big tractors.
I'm with you on that way of getting out of an impass. Should leave a chain on the 8430-86300 so you always have it with you to unstuck yourself or help others...help you ;-)
This reminds me of a good story. Several years ago my Grandfather got stuck discing some food plots in CRP. He was using our biggest tractor, a John Deere 4440 with clamp on duals and a 19ft disc. My dad and I were both at work that afternoon so he had to let the pair sit overnight, leaving us a nasty surprise the next morning. Not only did he rock the tractor back and forth trying to get out until it was sunk to the axle, he had raised the disc up onto its wheels and left it up all night. At firs, we tried pulling tractor and disc with a John deere 4320, but to no avail, the steel cable snapped in half and slammed into the cab, smashing lights and sheet metal. Next we tried unhooking the disc, and chained a 3020 to the 4320; still no movement. It took 4 hours of pulling and digging the mud away from the 4440's wheels to get her out.
I have been stuck to many times we farmed swamp ground you never know when you going to go down. Working for other farmers it is hard to know the ground. Biggest tractor i got stuck with was a John Deere 9200 with 32 foot disk. Oh the joys of getting stuck lol. Thanks for the video.
When your stuck in the mud the best thing to do is first take a break have lunch to see if mud dried, then get in and spin the tires till they down to dryer dirt lastly moisten the area with water if possible to allow the tractor to float to the top . problem solved
Could've unhooked disk and drove tractor out hooked chain to disk and pulled it out. Hook back up and back to dialing. Done it many times in field by myself.
To all those who say just lift the disc lol when u are in that kind of mud and the disc wheels just sink in then what? Well your stuck. That happened to me a few years ago. I made it through with the cultivator lifting the wheels, The disc just pushed the wheels in on its pass. I did the unhook and barely got the tractor out on its own. Used a tow strap on the disc. I enjoyed watching how they handled this as they had the right idea including not pulling on the back of the disc.
Thank you. You have made the best post on this video. I just wanted to show what happens when a tractor gets stuck. In this case just a simple tow. Some times is not so easy.
We had a really wet spring in 2013, got stuck 5-6 times pulling field cultivator. I had a 30 foot chain with me so when I’d get stuck I’d raise it up, unhook and get the tractor out on dry ground and pull the field cultivator out with the chain
Over the winter and early spring if 1960 the Mississippi river came up 4 times. 1 week coming up, a week up over the levies, a week going down and down a week, then rinse and repeat 4 times. Each time I would leave a 1" of fine Iowa top soil. When we started to farm it we were helped a friend of my fathers. He had a John Deere 630 and our Farmall 460. Each tractor had a 16' log chain on the front of the tractor and another on the back of the disk. As soon as you spun a wheel 1/2 turn we would stop and let the other tractor pull around to pull you out. 250 acres of that mess. We were lucky to get 50 acres disk in a day with 2 tractors. 4 mph was all the tractors could pull the disks first trip over. We had to disk all the fields three times to get a seedbed. Twice we got it all planted and we got a big rain before the soybeans got up and the ground would seal over like concrete. This disc them twice again and replant. Everything got planted 3 times and finished planting July 20th
The wobble on the left dual is a optical illusion, I had a beer it was there, then I had another beer it had gone,,, so if u see a problem go straight to the cooler for the beer, and hey presto, a pissed farmer. 😂👍🍺
Talk about getting stuck, roughly 20 years ago when I was probably 5-6 my grampa, sister a year younger, and I were out in his 7700 Ford with the hay carrier and probably 8 bales we were driving to feed cattle got halfway to the pen and drove through the ditch. That’s the only way to get there and has been travelled though everyday for years and years well we ended up getting the trailer stuck when he locked the diff in and sunk the rear tires too. We walked back to the house and my sister and I thought it was the longest walk ever at the time remember our age lol. Ended up having my grandma drive us in the old ford truck while my grampa drove his open station 7600 out with the chains and pulled her right out. I’ll have to get pictures of it and share with you on Instagram but probably the best memory of my grandpa farming.
Got stuck one time in a field while using a JD 4840,pulling a AAMCO 16ft heavy cutting disc.It was in NC where I grew up,and the ground was heavy clay.I came around a corner in the field,and hit a swampy area that I could not see,due to all of the weeds,went straight down to the axle,before I could do anything.My partner was driving a 4640,and he just pulled in front of me,hooked a chain and pulled me out.We never could plow that corner,it never dried out enough in the spring to plow it.
Extraordinary, a miracle, they pulled the tractor out with another one!! Love those JD articulated tractors, still great value for money, and if taken care of should go on for years.
Well at least he stopped rocking it back and forth until it was down to the door. Dad refers to these situations as "chain reactions". We usually don't have too many instances of getting stuck, but we have farmed some local state owned ground that has a lot of muck dirt in it. That stuff will roll like a wave in front of a packer. Too much of a wave, and your hung up for two reasons, 1 is the mound of dirt you're trying to drag, and 2 is you've made one complete revolution with the drive tires and buried yourself. Can't slip on that muck dirt.
Did he ever really raise that disk? Looks like with the moist dirt, field cultivators would have been a better choice for seed bed prep here. I still LOL when I hear about "organic" farms...aren't all our farms organic- everything we deal with is carbon based.
105 years before , the father of my granpa had loose two oxes during hay season on a pillow , today i ' m lumbing only by hands and on feet to make firewood and boards in this parcel ( species are now ash and alder trees ).
93 floods was year to remember, we struggle IH 786 pulling Sunshine HV McKay non spring tine seeder in mud. 786 sank so we unhook and used D4 CAT pull seeder. D4 pull seeder but wheels stop moving on seeder logged full mud we couldn’t sow.
The first thing that hit me when he tried to get out was "for crying out loud, raise the disk out of the ground". But after the other tractor started pulling him I noticed the build up in front of the front gang, so trying to lift the disk up would have done no good as the disk wheels would have just sunk in anyway. This reminds me that in 1975 I was on a wheat harvest crew where ran two " L Gleaners" We were cutting at Cherokee, Oklahoma when the kid driving that L got into a mud hole which does happen. He was only 17 and didn't have much experience. When he hit that hole and it started spinning, instead of stopping right there, he tried to pull it on thru and all he did was get in deeper and deeper until he buried it way above the front combine axle. The boss knew that there was no way the other machine was going to pull him out. He went into town and hired a oil field worker with a D 6 cat to pull him out. He backed that Caterpillar up as close as the thought he needed and told the boss. "I am not getting out of this seat and you will hook up the winch cable. He wrapped it around the rear axle. The operator then pulled forward till the cable was tight and dug himself a hole where the back wheels on that cat was anchored. Then he told our boss " When I put the winch in gear I am going to pour the coals to it. I will do one of two things, I will pull it out or pull it in half, so the decision is up to you" He gave him the go ahead and it pulled it out without any damage to the machine. When it was over, he charged him only $90.00 to do that. I thought that was pretty cheap even then, 45 years ago.
Yes but he just pulled the disk out of the wet spot, where it dragged the dirt out on the front to a dry spot. The mud on the front just stayed there and scraped up a bunch of dry dirt and he didn't have enough momentum to keep going until the dirt goes away. If he could've lifted his disk high enough to clear the dirt, he would've been fine
Funny, as a kid on our family farm in Upstate NY in the 50/60, I never recall getting our tractors stuck in inches of mud. Of course our tilling tools were not a hundred feet wide and the tires alone on this rigs were wider than our entire tractor but still???? When our John Deere or Oliver or Farmall M got stuck, that bastard was to the transmission case at least, or the axle if it was real soupy and you wanted Dad to kick your ass for sleeping while driving. Really, it remembers better than it lived! The high point was Dad was around then!
I grew up near Rochester, NY. Before Steiger 4wds gained popularity in the area in the early 1970’s allot of Cletrac/ oliver tractors were sold from the 1920’s through the 60’s get fall and spring plowing done. I have a great picture of a Cat crawler plowing near Caledonia, NY in the early 50’s.
I've lived on a 39 acre fruit farm. Our farm had some really low wet areas and we would get stuck a lot. We just took a second tractor, wrapped a chain around the front axle of the one that was stuck and just pulled. Sometimes we had to get a third tractor. Good times were had. I miss the farm.
Learned to pick up First and got out of a lot of times and got out of the mud with no problem. learned it at 10 years old. people don't have common sense any more.
He needed to use the diff lock and would have been fine. But those 30/40 series 4wd have only a rear diff lock. The front axle spins wildly and digs holes. Terrible tractors with terrible transmission!
Yes the 6 cylinders tended to have porous liners but they could be changed fairly easily and quite cheap nowadays. Fairly straightforward machines, bring back the eighties
This video never gets old my friend I love those Oliver's and whites what I grew up on I like them all tell you the truth I've seen your recent videos I just didn't leave comments cuz I was watching it on the Xbox but you're still getting plenty of use for me brother happy holidays man thanks a ton for all the great videos
We were clearing out an old barn site and I was driving the dump truck filled with old foundation down a wet dirt path and the boss said that I would make, I didn´t go a hundred feet before I had it burried, thank god for the pay loader. That doesn beat the time I was pull´n logs with my old john deere MT and I got into a mud hole and snaped the right hand side wheel clean off.
Not to knock anyone down but that could have been avoided, its called pick up the disk when you come to a wet spot. Person may not have known that but hey, "shit happens"- forest gump
Might have helped a LOT if he had raised the disc off the ground.. Geez. You can always go back over the spot with the disc lower and at a different angle then the one you got stuck in...
He hasn't even tried raising the disk. Of course you won't be going anywhere, duhh. Stubborn old father that thinks he can do anything. That tractor isn't even close to being stuck. We have an 8640 that has been up to the fuel tanks in yellow and blue gumbo clay and wak through it. He need to stop farming if he doesn't know what to do.
Nice footage! Can I ask you, why do you use those thin double wheels in USA? Here in europe we dont use those at all, just really thin wheels for spraying and so.
Bigtractor - are you watching the recent postings about the new tires that are allowing everyone on the fields sooner, less fuel and less bounce? Seems some marketing, but I don't have a tractor to prove it!
Jesus, I don’t know where to begin with pointing out stupidity. Doesn’t lift the disc, spins him self down, revs it up and drops the clutch front and back thinking he will get out, then doesn’t pull the pin. Uses a chain... a quick way to get your self killed. Almost got killed by a chain 2 years ago. Good lord
We had a 8400 and a 6 row amadas peanut combine stuck that the drawbar on the 8400 was 18 inches in the mud, but an 850 Deere dozer put it on the hill. We had to take the dozer everywhere we went
I have seen this type of thing several other times and I have a question, why did the Deere that got stuck lift its disk and maybe even fold it up, rather than trying to move forward with it still down? Why did the tractor that assisted disconnect its disk?
Way back in the day I was riding in the 9100 Ford with dad and we had the offset disk on the back of the tractor. He knew the field we were in and there was a soggy spot we drove through it and he tried to raise the offset and boom it hit the ground like a mini truck dragging frame. He gave the tractor all it had but it was nothing doing. For some reason the cb in that tractor wasn't working so we walked back to get the 8600 which I was stoked about the old big boy going to pull the new big kid on the block out. Well a couple of hours later and boom two stuck tractors and what is worse it was the two biggest on the farm. The next day got a welder down to the field to patch up the linkage to raise the offset and low and behold drove em both right out. Now ask me how many times the 8600 pulled a school bus I was in out of the bottom road just to the south of that field man those were good times.
Obviously you pick it out when you start having issues. And they weren't going to be able to work the whole field anyway as there was water standing to the right of where they were pulling the tractor out.This farm could use a one pass tillage tool like Wil-Rich, Sunflower, and others have. No need of a plow at all. I have never heard the no-weed chemical rule on white corn.
These RUclips Rabbitholes!! Aye in Scotland we have these Products in our fields too - pity we couldn't find a better use for them - to monetise them - If only I could find time to get a round TUIT - maybe do some research on this "Stuck" stuff ;-) Now I gotta thinkin -an I hope that Ol' Pop - the Driver there, takes the advice with a pinch of pop - to be awake on the job and keep away from High levels of water, or use a much WIDER set of tillage equipment to scratch around to consolidate and dry the soil around the holes FIRST - and if he Dropped the Tire Pressures he may be able to Float like a Fly and Sting like a Bee. I thought that ALL Modern Deeres would have Diff-Locks? seems not the case - Still the case? One has to be so careful in purchasing nowadays - taking things for granted. Thanks for the Patience in recording & posting. Who'd have thought when film made, we'd have a world as it is TODAY - Stay safe.
I live in western ky and enjoy watching your videos from this area just curious if u could possibly talk to the owners or something and tell who they are. And maybe where they are.
Not sure why he didn’t just unhook and use a chain to pull it out instead of cutting production down on the case he had enough chain to get on dry ground
I usually don’t critique other farmers because we all have our preferences. That was painful to watch though. I won’t get into specifics, but that was just odd. To each their own I guess.
Blake Painter Very bad quality. John Deere was made in the USA. We don’t need your shitty fendt. A John Deere could beat a fendt any day. And I never asked for a list of different things germans probably didn’t even make.
The 8630 driver is a complete spanner, no attempt to ease the implement up when the tractor starts to loose traction then when he ties to get going, no diff lock enabled. He looks old enough to know better, what a tool!!!!
yup, total flog
When the tractor with the front bucket comes out it completes the ensemble for my 2 year old son and he gets so excited!! Thank you for posting all of the videos!!
Thank you for sharing. I am glad he enjoys the tractors.
I watched a local farmers hire help get his D6D dozier stuck while clearing some wetter ground. Sunk it to the top of the tracks due to an inexperienced operator. By the time they got someone who knew what he was doing they had an John Deere 8630, 4840, and 4630 all sunk to the axles. They finally got an old man who worked in construction for years on the dozier. Within 20 minutes he basically screwed that dozier out of that hole. Within an hour he had all the others pulled out as well. An experience operator is key in getting equipment. I was just happy to see they did not hook to the back section of the disk. Seen it happen too many times resulting in bent up disk frames.The man running the 8630 knew not keep digging it down and not hooking it up wrong. Older and wiser!
South Georgia Farmin
Step 1 lift the disk
LOL, yup. I kept saying "Raise the disks".
He needs to learn how to use the diff lock too. LOL. I'm no expert but I think he could've got out of that.
@ Iowa, I can't believe it the Deere would have walked out on its own if the disc were raised.
Lifting the disc all the way would have most likely just buried the disc wheels I agree with rasing it just not all the way plus diff lock and she would have came right out of there
MN farming black/clay ground no stranger to getting stuck in the spring time. Plus guy just dumps the clutch and just aboot snuffs her out everytime jeez
@@paulyarek True but the problem many times is the wheels do not raise the implement out of the ground because the wheels sink in the mud instead of raising the implement out of the ground. Not saying that is the case here but I've stuck tractors before and that was the issue holding the tractor in the mud hole.
While scraping sediment out of a pond one very dry summer. I drove the tractor over some organic matter in the pond. Sank immediately to the axle. Worked at it for days trying to dig enough material in front of the wheels to drive it forward. Didn’t work. No trees to winch it out. Tractor was facing the tank dam with a fence on the opposite side. My boss told me to chain two railroad ties to the front of each back wheel. Start the tractor, put it in the lowest gear available. While idling slowly let out the clutch. The back tires slowly climbed up the ties and rolled over so they are now behind the wheels. Just like that the tractor was out of the mud! Awesome! Most amazing feeling!
We need to all remember that they are organic grower they don’t know what there doing
@bigtractorpower any time we have ever gotten our 8430 stuck when working ground we raised it up, left it unfolded and then unhooked and have always been able to drive away. Then pulled the disc or chisel out with a chain when the tractor was on dryer ground. Great videos love the big tractors.
I'm with you on that way of getting out of an impass. Should leave a chain on the 8430-86300 so you always have it with you to unstuck yourself or help others...help you ;-)
Good for you
This reminds me of a good story. Several years ago my Grandfather got stuck discing some food plots in CRP. He was using our biggest tractor, a John Deere 4440 with clamp on duals and a 19ft disc. My dad and I were both at work that afternoon so he had to let the pair sit overnight, leaving us a nasty surprise the next morning. Not only did he rock the tractor back and forth trying to get out until it was sunk to the axle, he had raised the disc up onto its wheels and left it up all night. At firs, we tried pulling tractor and disc with a John deere 4320, but to no avail, the steel cable snapped in half and slammed into the cab, smashing lights and sheet metal. Next we tried unhooking the disc, and chained a 3020 to the 4320; still no movement. It took 4 hours of pulling and digging the mud away from the 4440's wheels to get her out.
I have been stuck to many times we farmed swamp ground you never know when you going to go down. Working for other farmers it is hard to know the ground. Biggest tractor i got stuck with was a John Deere 9200 with 32 foot disk. Oh the joys of getting stuck lol. Thanks for the video.
WOW! Look at the front left dual on the tractor. The wedge lock is WAY off even. Tire wobbles several degrees.
When your stuck in the mud the best thing to do is first take a break have lunch to see if mud dried, then get in and spin the tires till they down to dryer dirt lastly moisten the area with water if possible to allow the tractor to float to the top . problem solved
I would have simply regenerated and got out on impulse power. But I'm weird like that.
if he would have picked the disk up when it started to spin he would have came out of it
I have put my Tractors down to the FENDERS AND GOT OUT LMAO
Yeah, I noticed he didn't lift the disc even when the Case IH pulled him out.
Gerard Heck gotta keep that thing going that spot will dry and need to be planted😂
@@swappedoutZ71 You got that right Tyrell! That's probably where there's a lot of fertilizer.
72 series Case tractors were some of the most reliable equipment ever made
Could've unhooked disk and drove tractor out hooked chain to disk and pulled it out. Hook back up and back to dialing. Done it many times in field by myself.
It took about two minutes this way with no pulling of pins and lining up the hitch to the draw bar and re-attaching hydraulics.
I've done it a thousand times...
@@jimsteele7108 1000 times? you still havent learned what a wet spot is?
Hey... don't mess with me buddy.
@@jimsteele7108 heated
Pick up discs sleepy! Diff lock is on the floor
U up
4wd tractors like that one do not have a diff lock
Hayden Taylor I run 9560r’s and they do have diff locks.
I had an 8630 it does not have diff lock
Not much to say..... other than that is one sharp looking Magnum!
Haha exactly
To all those who say just lift the disc lol when u are in that kind of mud and the disc wheels just sink in then what? Well your stuck. That happened to me a few years ago.
I made it through with the cultivator lifting the wheels,
The disc just pushed the wheels in on its pass.
I did the unhook and barely got the tractor out on its own.
Used a tow strap on the disc.
I enjoyed watching how they handled this as they had the right idea including not pulling on the back of the disc.
Thank you. You have made the best post on this video. I just wanted to show what happens when a tractor gets stuck. In this case just a simple tow. Some times is not so easy.
We had a really wet spring in 2013, got stuck 5-6 times pulling field cultivator. I had a 30 foot chain with me so when I’d get stuck I’d raise it up, unhook and get the tractor out on dry ground and pull the field cultivator out with the chain
Over the winter and early spring if 1960 the Mississippi river came up 4 times. 1 week coming up, a week up over the levies, a week going down and down a week, then rinse and repeat 4 times. Each time I would leave a 1" of fine Iowa top soil. When we started to farm it we were helped a friend of my fathers. He had a John Deere 630 and our Farmall 460. Each tractor had a 16' log chain on the front of the tractor and another on the back of the disk. As soon as you spun a wheel 1/2 turn we would stop and let the other tractor pull around to pull you out. 250 acres of that mess. We were lucky to get 50 acres disk in a day with 2 tractors. 4 mph was all the tractors could pull the disks first trip over. We had to disk all the fields three times to get a seedbed. Twice we got it all planted and we got a big rain before the soybeans got up and the ground would seal over like concrete. This disc them twice again and replant. Everything got planted 3 times and finished planting July 20th
The wobble on the left dual is a optical illusion, I had a beer it was there, then I had another beer it had gone,,, so if u see a problem go straight to the cooler for the beer, and hey presto, a pissed farmer. 😂👍🍺
Talk about getting stuck, roughly 20 years ago when I was probably 5-6 my grampa, sister a year younger, and I were out in his 7700 Ford with the hay carrier and probably 8 bales we were driving to feed cattle got halfway to the pen and drove through the ditch. That’s the only way to get there and has been travelled though everyday for years and years well we ended up getting the trailer stuck when he locked the diff in and sunk the rear tires too. We walked back to the house and my sister and I thought it was the longest walk ever at the time remember our age lol. Ended up having my grandma drive us in the old ford truck while my grampa drove his open station 7600 out with the chains and pulled her right out. I’ll have to get pictures of it and share with you on Instagram but probably the best memory of my grandpa farming.
Best video ever!! Love seeing the Caseih pull out the JD! Lol
Red to the rescue 😁
most would of pick up disk and keep going but some farmer dont learn
Got stuck one time in a field while using a JD 4840,pulling a AAMCO 16ft heavy cutting disc.It was in NC where I grew up,and the ground was heavy clay.I came around a corner in the field,and hit a swampy area that I could not see,due to all of the weeds,went straight down to the axle,before I could do anything.My partner was driving a 4640,and he just pulled in front of me,hooked a chain and pulled me out.We never could plow that corner,it never dried out enough in the spring to plow it.
Extraordinary, a miracle, they pulled the tractor out with another one!! Love those JD articulated tractors, still great value for money, and if taken care of should go on for years.
Well at least he stopped rocking it back and forth until it was down to the door. Dad refers to these situations as "chain reactions". We usually don't have too many instances of getting stuck, but we have farmed some local state owned ground that has a lot of muck dirt in it. That stuff will roll like a wave in front of a packer. Too much of a wave, and your hung up for two reasons, 1 is the mound of dirt you're trying to drag, and 2 is you've made one complete revolution with the drive tires and buried yourself. Can't slip on that muck dirt.
Did he ever really raise that disk? Looks like with the moist dirt, field cultivators would have been a better choice for seed bed prep here. I still LOL when I hear about "organic" farms...aren't all our farms organic- everything we deal with is carbon based.
105 years before , the father of my granpa had loose two oxes during hay season on a pillow , today i ' m lumbing only by hands and on feet to make firewood and boards in this parcel ( species are now ash and alder trees ).
Because your organic, you cant grease your loader? That poor 6410L with the 640sl at 5:50, 8:50, & 8:58 sounds like it never gets greased!!
93 floods was year to remember, we struggle IH 786 pulling Sunshine HV McKay non spring tine seeder in mud. 786 sank so we unhook and used D4 CAT pull seeder. D4 pull seeder but wheels stop moving on seeder logged full mud we couldn’t sow.
The first thing that hit me when he tried to get out was "for crying out loud, raise the disk out of the ground". But after the other tractor started pulling him I noticed the build up
in front of the front gang, so trying to lift the disk up would have done no good as the disk wheels would have just sunk in anyway. This reminds me that in 1975 I was on
a wheat harvest crew where ran two " L Gleaners" We were cutting at Cherokee, Oklahoma when the kid driving that L got into a mud hole which does happen. He was
only 17 and didn't have much experience. When he hit that hole and it started spinning, instead of stopping right there, he tried to pull it on thru and all he did was get in
deeper and deeper until he buried it way above the front combine axle. The boss knew that there was no way the other machine was going to pull him out. He went into
town and hired a oil field worker with a D 6 cat to pull him out. He backed that Caterpillar up as close as the thought he needed and told the boss. "I am not getting
out of this seat and you will hook up the winch cable. He wrapped it around the rear axle. The operator then pulled forward till the cable was tight and dug himself a hole
where the back wheels on that cat was anchored. Then he told our boss " When I put the winch in gear I am going to pour the coals to it. I will do one of two things,
I will pull it out or pull it in half, so the decision is up to you" He gave him the go ahead and it pulled it out without any damage to the machine. When it was over, he
charged him only $90.00 to do that. I thought that was pretty cheap even then, 45 years ago.
If the disk was able to raise up more he would've been fine
More times than not raising it would just push the wheels down in the mud.
More often than not more surface area/contact with the ground wins out
Yes but he just pulled the disk out of the wet spot, where it dragged the dirt out on the front to a dry spot. The mud on the front just stayed there and scraped up a bunch of dry dirt and he didn't have enough momentum to keep going until the dirt goes away. If he could've lifted his disk high enough to clear the dirt, he would've been fine
Well the problem is that it weighs a lot
You read my mind brother... Rise up the wings and this should be piece of cake for the Deere
Thanks for sharing, been there a few times in the past . I’m sure glad they hooked to drawbar on tractor and not disc. Organic that be interesting.
did anyone else wonder if he was going to keep it spinning and dig it in. These guys know there job. Couple of attemps and just wait for a pull.
👍👍. Best comment on this thread.
Funny, as a kid on our family farm in Upstate NY in the 50/60, I never recall getting our tractors stuck in inches of mud. Of course our tilling tools were not a hundred feet wide and the tires alone on this rigs were wider than our entire tractor but still???? When our John Deere or Oliver or Farmall M got stuck, that bastard was to the transmission case at least, or the axle if it was real soupy and you wanted Dad to kick your ass for sleeping while driving. Really, it remembers better than it lived! The high point was Dad was around then!
I grew up near Rochester, NY. Before Steiger 4wds gained popularity in the area in the early 1970’s allot of Cletrac/ oliver tractors were sold from the 1920’s through the 60’s get fall and spring plowing done. I have a great picture of a Cat crawler plowing near Caledonia, NY in the early 50’s.
I know that area all to well. Got the 655c hung up pulling the 6630 sunflower this spring near there.
I need to catch the 655C in action along with the new 8660.
Well we are going to have a fair amount of spring tillage to do. We have a few places that got rutted up this fall.
I've lived on a 39 acre fruit farm. Our farm had some really low wet areas and we would get stuck a lot. We just took a second tractor, wrapped a chain around the front axle of the one that was stuck and just pulled. Sometimes we had to get a third tractor. Good times were had. I miss the farm.
Learned to pick up First and got out of a lot of times and got out of the mud with no problem. learned it at 10 years old. people don't have common sense any more.
Bet those disc are gonna be caked up !! Great stuff mike
Love these big tractors, much bigger then my Kubota L2550 from the eighties. Greetings from Andreas from the Off Grid Sweden Channel.
He needed to use the diff lock and would have been fine. But those 30/40 series 4wd have only a rear diff lock. The front axle spins wildly and digs holes. Terrible tractors with terrible transmission!
FarmerSchneck I owned one for 9 months. A horrible gutless wonder of a tractor. I couldn't get rid of it fast enough
Ive had an 8630 it was a treat great tractor but mine did not have diff lock
Yes the 6 cylinders tended to have porous liners but they could be changed fairly easily and quite cheap nowadays. Fairly straightforward machines, bring back the eighties
This video never gets old my friend I love those Oliver's and whites what I grew up on I like them all tell you the truth I've seen your recent videos I just didn't leave comments cuz I was watching it on the Xbox but you're still getting plenty of use for me brother happy holidays man thanks a ton for all the great videos
very smart man ! not hooking to disk lol
Exactly, always hook to the draw bar.
too stubborn to lift the disk.....grandpa for sure.
See Case IH is best way before JD
Hi mate very good video but is a night mare wen a big tractor get bogged down because my got stuck in mud last year in June I left there one week 🙏🍻
The amount of extra fuss to get that field smooth, could be done with 1 pass after a plow with a power harrow.
We were clearing out an old barn site and I was driving the dump truck filled with old foundation down a wet dirt path and the boss said that I would make, I didn´t go a hundred feet before I had it burried, thank god for the pay loader. That doesn beat the time I was pull´n logs with my old john deere MT and I got into a mud hole and snaped the right hand side wheel clean off.
6:17 he was actually thinking of putting the chain to the rear of discframe,,,,,
Love the smell of fresh broke ground!!
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silly ol fool didnt lift the discs out the ground !!! hed have walked through that , needs L plates !!!!
Glad to see they hooked to drawbar, and not spring the disc... nice job!
Not to knock anyone down but that could have been avoided, its called pick up the disk when you come to a wet spot. Person may not have known that but hey, "shit happens"- forest gump
Might have helped a LOT if he had raised the disc off the ground.. Geez. You can always go back over the spot with the disc lower and at a different angle then the one you got stuck in...
He hasn't even tried raising the disk. Of course you won't be going anywhere, duhh. Stubborn old father that thinks he can do anything. That tractor isn't even close to being stuck. We have an 8640 that has been up to the fuel tanks in yellow and blue gumbo clay and wak through it. He need to stop farming if he doesn't know what to do.
Should have picked up the disc.... Lol figures it took a Case to pull out the deere!
If it ain't red it should stay in the shed
Love it when them old diesels smoke.
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nice.. :) my uncle got our ih 400 stuck & all we had 2 work with was the FEL & our chevy 1500 pickup.. fun times..lol
Glad to see they used chains instead of straps or cables.
Nice footage! Can I ask you, why do you use those thin double wheels in USA? Here in europe we dont use those at all, just really thin wheels for spraying and so.
For row crop applications in 30 inch spaced corn and soybeans.
Bigtractor - are you watching the recent postings about the new tires that are allowing everyone on the fields sooner, less fuel and less bounce? Seems some marketing, but I don't have a tractor to prove it!
Jesus, I don’t know where to begin with pointing out stupidity. Doesn’t lift the disc, spins him self down, revs it up and drops the clutch front and back thinking he will get out, then doesn’t pull the pin. Uses a chain... a quick way to get your self killed. Almost got killed by a chain 2 years ago. Good lord
Raise the disc!
We had a 8400 and a 6 row amadas peanut combine stuck that the drawbar on the 8400 was 18 inches in the mud, but an 850 Deere dozer put it on the hill. We had to take the dozer everywhere we went
Seen this scenario more times than I'd like too admit
I just usually unhooked the disk & got a chain and then tried pulling it out , if possible I would pull it out from the rear
Note how the farmer bossing the worker around was actually the one that got stuck. And lift the discs wheels up.
He is a nice guy. He is just giving directions.
he did good he didn't have to unplug his rolling baskets with a pry bar like we have on our farm
Very inexperienced driver....didn't even lift the disk.
Alright! We get out tortilla chips and salsa this year!
Yep. If you're going to run green on your farm you better have at least one red to keep the operation going
Yep lol! Keep the lil greenies in line.
8630 sounds mighty sweet.
I have seen this type of thing several other times and I have a question, why did the Deere that got stuck lift its disk and maybe even fold it up, rather than trying to move forward with it still down? Why did the tractor that assisted disconnect its disk?
at least he was smart enough to stop instead of just spinning himself in deeper
Way back in the day I was riding in the 9100 Ford with dad and we had the offset disk on the back of the tractor. He knew the field we were in and there was a soggy spot we drove through it and he tried to raise the offset and boom it hit the ground like a mini truck dragging frame. He gave the tractor all it had but it was nothing doing. For some reason the cb in that tractor wasn't working so we walked back to get the 8600 which I was stoked about the old big boy going to pull the new big kid on the block out. Well a couple of hours later and boom two stuck tractors and what is worse it was the two biggest on the farm. The next day got a welder down to the field to patch up the linkage to raise the offset and low and behold drove em both right out. Now ask me how many times the 8600 pulled a school bus I was in out of the bottom road just to the south of that field man those were good times.
driver 8630 clever man, correctly behaved in this situation
Hay I see u do alot in mid West you should come up here in Aroostook county Maine
Good video. I enjoyed it. Thanks!
Thank you for watching.
I have a few natural springs, when I find them mold board plowing the tractor doesn't start going down it just lays over. Ha ha
That's as smokey as the 4440 we had, but heh smoke means power at least in the old days
Didnt look like disc was lifted up on the Deere !
Indeed it wasn't lifted up, neither when the Magnum pulls it out of the mud
When spinning in the mud , never chock your tires trying to get out. Amateur hour operator here.
You think you can do better? I doubt you can
That natural spring has been in the same spot for 300 yrs yet you seem to find it every year a bet.
@@brianwideman2342 your comment makes no sense.
curious to know why werent all the wheels pulling;; thought that was the purpose of 4 wheel drive on the john
deere;; was it broken
It lost traction. When the tires slick up and the treads can’t grip your done.
Obviously you pick it out when you start having issues. And they weren't going to be able to work the whole field anyway as there was water standing to the right of where they were pulling the tractor out.This farm could use a one pass tillage tool like Wil-Rich, Sunflower, and others have. No need of a plow at all. I have never heard the no-weed chemical rule on white corn.
These RUclips Rabbitholes!! Aye in Scotland we have these Products in our fields too - pity we couldn't find a better use for them - to monetise them - If only I could find time to get a round TUIT - maybe do some research on this "Stuck" stuff ;-)
Now I gotta thinkin -an I hope that Ol' Pop - the Driver there, takes the advice with a pinch of pop - to be awake on the job and keep away from High levels of water, or use a much WIDER set of tillage equipment to scratch around to consolidate and dry the soil around the holes FIRST - and if he Dropped the Tire Pressures he may be able to Float like a Fly and Sting like a Bee. I thought that ALL Modern Deeres would have Diff-Locks? seems not the case - Still the case? One has to be so careful in purchasing nowadays - taking things for granted. Thanks for the Patience in recording & posting. Who'd have thought when film made, we'd have a world as it is TODAY - Stay safe.
I live in western ky and enjoy watching your videos from this area just curious if u could possibly talk to the owners or something and tell who they are. And maybe where they are.
Watch for an owner interview in an upcoming video.
That 8630 cost $53,000 in '78. That's like a quarter mil today's money
At least they were smart enough to hook it to the tractor not the disc. Can't believe they didn't lift the disc up ,it probably would've walked out.
All that is OPERATOR ERROR! The guy in the FWD Deere has no business in that tractor
got the atv stuck then the jeep then the 656 then the 8400jd. cat to the rescue
Not sure why he didn’t just unhook and use a chain to pull it out instead of cutting production down on the case he had enough chain to get on dry ground
I usually don’t critique other farmers because we all have our preferences. That was painful to watch though. I won’t get into specifics, but that was just odd. To each their own I guess.
I see the critics have all the answers!
They do seem to. I was there. It seemed like it all ran smoothly. Just an interruption in tillage and it was easily fixed.
The reason he got stuck is the disc plugged and he didn't pay attention it pulled on the tractor harder.
I been there lime that number of times
Raise the damn disk rookie.
That dirt pushing.... that'll stop a tractor fast in a wetspot.
Farming 4G the guy in the 8630 doesn't have a clue what he's doing.
Blake Painter No
Blake Painter Because it’s German means it’s better? You sound like a nub.
Blake Painter Very bad quality. John Deere was made in the USA. We don’t need your shitty fendt. A John Deere could beat a fendt any day. And I never asked for a list of different things germans probably didn’t even make.
Blake Painter The first ever John Deere?!! That was made in the us. And so where the ones in the vid.
Is there any videos on ford tractors?
does anybody know why the 8530 didnt turn on dif lock? not have one?
Nicely staged for the audience, chaps!