Turn 1 win: Mana crypt(card 1), tap for 2 mana use 1 mana to cast sol ring(card 2), tap for 2 mana use the three mana to cast: altar of dementia(card 3) and shuko(card 4) play white land that can be tapped (card 5), tap for white exile simian spirit guide(card 6) for red mana play commander Play ornithopter(card 7) The rest you already know : )
There is one more way I've seen to get it done on t1. Will need ancient tomb, lotus petal, simian, altar of dementia, sol ring or mana crypt, sai, and a 0 dropper
@@PhazonOmega he has several sweet combos. There's Gerrard + Loyal Retainers + a sac outlet Gerrard + Hellkite Courser + a sac outlet Gerrard + Nim Deathmantle + Ashnods's Altar And while it doesn't directly involve Gerrard, since the decks you build with him will probably run these anyway, you can run Karmic Guide + Reveillark + a sac outlet
It's uncommon because it's a signpost in draft, letting you know you can try to make a boros attachment deck, and also that dwarves are the tribe of those colors in the set.
All the cards mentioned: Koll, The Forgemaster Ornithopter Shuko Goblin Bombardment Memnite Phyrexian Walker Shield Sphere Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh Crimson Kobolds Crookshank Kobolds Kobolds of Kher Deep Skirk Prospector Priest of Urabrask Lightning Greaves Grafted Wargear Sai of the Shinobi Stormrider Rig Ronin Warclub Hero's Blade Obsidian Battle-Axe Demonmail Hauberk Piston Sledge Puresteel Paladin Blasting Station Altar of Dementia Thermopod Ashnod's Altar Phyrexian Altar Spawning Pit Martyr's Cause Fanatical Devotion Impact Tremors Altar of the Brood Enduring Renewal Sol Ring Simian Spirit Guide
I'd hesitate to call the card a busted commander. You have to run a multitude of awful or otherwise useless cards to make the combo consistent early on, and the combo is all it really has going for it. It lacks any real card advantage and being a Boros commander, it comes with all the flaws that Boros commanders have. If you cannot quickly get the combo, you will be doing nothing all game. Don't tunnelvision into the fact that he can combo off early, build deep into it, and call it a day. I doubt it will work out as well as one would like I think a much more solid home for the card is in the 98 of Rograkh partner decks that have White. You get to save deckspace by having your 0-Cost creature in your command zone, have a second commander that gives you value, artifact synergy, or anything else you'd like to build into (Tymna, Arden, and Keleth are all things I'd look at personally), and in the case of Tymna/Ishai/Sidar/etc you get to include a third color to patch up Boros's weaknesses. More colors also means more tutors and flexibility, so that you can slim down your combo package and play a much more interactive and versatile game, which is both more fun for all players and much stronger across more games A commander being potentially fast isn't the only thing you should look at. You need to look at card advantage, consistency, interaction, flexibility, etc. Koll lacks almost each of these, and even in the speed department he is beaten out by stuff like Anje, Godo, Rograkh/Silas, Goblin Combo, etc I do appreciate this gives some attention to Boros and Mardu, though. Both were really lacking a solid combo option to call their own
Turn 1: Mishra's workshop Tap it for a boros signet, floating a colourless Mana Crypt Tap it for a sol ring, floating a colourless Use the floating for Alter of dementia Use the sol ring mana to cast shuko, floating a colourless, using this floating mana to activate the signet for koll Then cast a 0 cmc creature WIN
Mishra's Workshop, Lotus Petal, Simian Spirit Guide, Shuko, Ornithopter, Altar of Dementia, Mox opal and Silence on top of the library. Crack lotus petal, play silence, Workshop out Shuko and Altar of Dementia, play Mox opal and exile Spirit Guide for commander, play ornithopter and win. T1 with protection.
Turn 1 isn't just possible, but with the right budget/collection it starts to get pretty probable with about 11 different variations of fast mana the enable a turn 1 combo. Turn 1: (Ancient Tomb + Sol Ring/Mana Crypt/Mana Vault/Mox Amber + Jeweled Lotus) or (Land + Mana Vault/Mana Crypt + Jeweled Lotus) or (Mana Crypt + Mana Vault/Sol Ring/Mox Amber + Jeweled Lotus) or (Land + Mox Amber + Mana Crypt) + Shuko/Shai of the Shinobi/Stormrider Rig/Lightning Greaves + (CMC 1-2 win con) + Koll + CMC 0 creature or Skirk Prospector. Turn 1 win. Heroes Blade will also work for turn one with Rograkh. Ashnod's Alter and Phyrexian Alter could replace the win con slot to produce infinite mana to cast another win con of greater CMC. Aetherflux Reservoir and Grape shop are perfect storm finishers for a deck like this. Fast Mana Cards: - Ancient Tomb - Sol Ring - Mox Amber - Jeweled Lotus - Mana Crypt - Mana Vault - Lotus Petal Mana Engine Cards: - Phyrexian Alter - Ashnod's Alter Win Con. Cards: - Goblin Bombardment - Impact Tremors - Alter of the Brood - Blasting Station - Alter of Dementia - Aetherflux Reservoir - Grape Shot - Fireball - Comet Storm Well of Lost Dreams/Dawn of Hope + Soul's Attendant/Soul Warden/Ajani's Welcome/Suture Priest/Diamond Mare + Phyrexian Alter/Ashnod's Alter is an infinite draw engine to insure you combo faster. Not to mention the infinite life gain gives you a ton of resilience for when you inevitable become archenemy, so it's not bad my itself. Alter of Carnage + Phyrexian Alter/Ashnod's Alter is another potential infinite card draw engine, but without the life gain requirement. Card Draw Engine Cards: - Well of Lost Dreams - Dawn of Hope - Alter of Carnage - Skullclamp - Staff of Domination Life Gain Cards - Soul's Attendant - Soul Warden - Ajani's Welcome - Suture Priest - Diamond Mare - Aetherflux Reservoir Fireball and Comet Storm are decent inclusions for if you get an infinite mana engine going as they'll just win you the game if they aren't countered or redirected. Tiana, Ships Caretaker is a strong inclusion for the mid to late gate as when paired with Koll you equipment and creatures will go back to your hand. I'd run Wrath effects for my casual play as to sweep away your opponents progress make further card advantage. So far Boros Eqipment Cheerios Aristocrats Combos is looking pretty gross. GG Wizards.
I was wrong. There's more mana fixing the can be done by casting Ashnod's Alter then sacrificing extra CMC 0 creatures to cast Koll then start the combo. Either (4 mana + Ashnod's Alter + 3 CMC neutral creatures + CMC 1 equipment with equip 0) or (3 mana + Ashnod's Alter + 4 CMC neutral creatures + CMC 1 equipment with equip 0). Koll and Feather making Boros great again.
I'm also wrong about casting turn one with Jeweled Lotus in most cases as I forgot that it only produces one color. I'm just too lazy to edit the mistake.
I had the realization while replying to another comment; that this is basically my Teysa, Orzhov Scion deck with red instead of black. So now I know that Karmic Guide + Reveillark or Nim Deathmantle are your extra recursion pieces. Cathodian and Myr Moonvessel are more mana neutral creatures, and Krark Clan Iron Works is basically another Ashnod's Alter. It just keeps getting grosser and more consistent the more I think about it.
Deathrender allows Koll to combo with any nontoken creature if you stack the trigger to put it in your hand before Deathrender puts a creature from your hand into play and attaches to it. Also, there are cards like Sun Titan that can bring back an aura to attach to itself for the loop. You can also include Bludgeon Brawl to turn fast mana like Mox Opal or Mana Crypt into 0 equip cost equipment, for the consistency.
My friend was telling me about this video a couple days ago, and it really opened my eyes to how good this card actually is. Also T1 win is absolutely possible with Mana Crypt & Mana Vault, but I'm not sure if the deck can win T1 with more budget friendly options. Still a very cool card, and I'm looking forward to running him as part of the 99 as a win con in some of my equipment themed decks. I might actually be the only person who enjoys WotC doubling down on equipment with Boros, and this guy is easily going alongside Feather as one of the best Boros commanders for sure. Kind of reminds me of your Gerrard video awhile back!
Yeah, I think Rograkh Boros and Rograkh Mardu decks are gonna love this combo. It's incredibly efficient and uses very few dead cards when you have Rograkh in the command zone
Dimir: “Oh? I see you’ve been adding more mill to your cards this set” Black: “Heh, what could I say? You two have been rubbing off on me, guess I couldn’t resist” Blue: “Ohohoho, we are so dirty aren’t we? Cant wait to bully the other 3 colors, we’ll turn their library’s into their grave yards. Ha!” Boros: “hey guys what’s up?” Black: “.....what?” Blue: “....um Dimir....why is this peasant hand size color combo here?” Dimir: “Boros, wha- how are you in our mill club? You don’t have any mill colors!” Boros: “oh, well I found these artifacts and I saw how many games you were winning with mill. So I thought I’d try it” Dimir “You’re always ruining things for me Boros, this is why WOTC hates you. I’d make you draw cards out of pity but you still wouldn’t be at a full hand size”
Some good backup finishers here are Storm cards, since you'll be building up a storm counter with all those zero-cost creatures. Grapeshot is the obvious one, but Ignite Memories could be potent as well. Empty the Warrens could get you some extra Impact Tremors triggers and add more bodies to sacrifice if you need something else--or give you a massive board.
cards needed in hand: a perfect 7: mox opal, mox amber, mana crypt, altar of dementia, plateau, rograh son of rohgahh, and shuko. turn 1: mox opal, mox amber, mana crypt, tap mana crypt play altar of dementia, play plateau, cast rograhh son of rohgrahh, tap plateau play shuko, tap mox amber and mox opal to cast commander. win.
Just because you can win turn 2, doesn’t mean you always should...unless it’s cedh. If you pull off a turn 2 win at a casual table you’re probably gonna irritate the table.
Thats why this deck wouldn't play with those tables. Majority of players have multiple decks at different levels. This would sit higher up on the power scale, probably right below CEDH
Plains into mana crypt into mana vault, cast iron myr and lightning grieves. Put boots on myr. Tap the colored sources for koll. 2 spots left plus your draw, let's say skirk prospector, goblin arsonist and simian spirit guide. One red mana of of turn 1 win. But that's as far as off the top of my head can get.
Plains +spirit guide gets koll, easy. Skirk + goblin arsonist + shuko =ping to death. So, 3 cards including your draw to get 2 red and 1 generic from nothing. Heart of Ramos gets 2 red from 3 colorless. So, 3 cards for 3 generic mana. Crypt + vault. Done!
Pulled the alternate art from a pre-release kit. Gonna build this deck and test it out. Thanks for the deck tech. Should be fun to run against more powerful decks.
I have a question: if you are using an equipment with equip-sacrifice a creature, shouldn't the combo be unable to work since you pay the equip cost in the layer before the equipment is attached to the net0 creature, which will result in the commander not triggering?
Lotus petal, mana crypt, sol ring, and a signet (arcane or boros), these are the ramp peices needed to pull this off turn 1, and remember to draw cause this needs 8 cards to pull off. And its fairly budget, except for mana crypt. But have fun with this knowledge.
Mana crypt, sol ring, jeweled lotus or lotus petal, ornithopter, a colored land, altar of dementia, and shuko in starting hand. Highly unlikely, but it's a turn one win.
Not much i can add to what has been said. Some creatures could be mana dumps for token creation. Doomed traveler, garrison cat, hunted witness, grim initiate. only if you have the sacrifice effects though with auto equip.
Sorry to have to ask, but is there a direct link to this deck, I tried searching the TCG link that was in the description, but I am not able to find this decklist! :/ Thanks for the share and thanks in advance for the link :D
Turn 1 Win, easy. Jeweled Lotus, a plains and mana crypt as well as a one or two costed equipment that equips for 0 and 0 cost creature. Play Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt and the Basic and tap all 3 for 6 mana making sure that jeweled lotus is for red. Use one red and one white for commander, use nothing for the creature, use one and a red for goblin bombardment (you can use colourless if you get altar of dementia meaning you can also get a mountain), and use the remaining mana for your equipment. And then do the combo. Thus a turn 1 win
Besides the combo I’m confused on this cards design. Why does it benefit equipped/enchanted token and nontoken? It seems to split the focus of the deck a tiny bit.
I think the main thing was to benefit going wide with equipment/auras, and the best payoff for that was to protect your creatures from dying. But, in a go wide deck they didn't want to discourage you from playing tokens, so they went ahead and a gave them a stat boost.
That was the first deck i ever made, Pebbles, and first deck i toke to my first tournament. Wow...i fell old, 21 years ago. Nice that they brought it back.
Is it normal that the link in the description has a lot of deck but there is only one that I find that is related to any of your video is turn 1 loss??? I think i have almost all these cards but to validate i want the list
Love this I like the 2 turn potential. But I have never been able to buy these decks you build from TCG player. I built one of your colorless deck builds. I want you to do a new +1/+1 counters deck.
I'll be joining a Commander league but uncommon commanders, I have been thinking about doing this one but am unsure..... its 100 dollar limit... any other commanders you recommend?
I much prefer Teshar. He may restrict your ability of colors to just White, but it also means you don't have any other colors to worry about. Furthermore, the objective is to get one of the many permanents you can have access to including Silence and it's counterpart where your literally stopping your opponents from stopping you from winning. Best case is if you have Grand Ablisher available to you. Ever since "masterminding" a turn 1 Gitrogg deck, i've realized that while you can get yourself into that position you end up having problems in the form of "the fun police" Force of Negation, Force of Will, Pact of Negation, and even a few other low cost counterspells that can fully disrupt your ability to win on that first or second turn. Especially Mental Mistep. Dealing with such counterspell action is resource taxing, more so than something that would get rid of one of your creatures. I've been able to win from going to upkeep, opponent doing Path to Exile on Teshar, and being able to pull of a win condition. But i also understand how unlikely this type of win can be. I would LOVE to have a boros commander with a plan, unfortunately that commander is going to be Sunforger Zirda. I've discovered that unless your playing Blue, you shouldn't put too much reliance on the graveyard. That's why Selvala Heart of the wild and Korvold are so good at what they do, Korvold does have some use of his graveyard, but Selvala doesn't need the graveyard. You also have to remember that the graveyard was intended to be a place for cards to no longer be available, why some people run methods to exile graveyards. Thank you for reading this "wall of text" comment. I wish there were more cards like "Deflecting swat" in red.
Did boros actually get a cedh commander? I was unimpressed with koll when I first saw him, but now that Mitch has pointed out a combo it looks insane. And I even knew all of the cards in the initial combo, I just didn't think of the combo myself.
Discount grummgully, similar idea as the persist combo, but at sorcery speed. Though it isn't destroyed by rest in peace, the cage, or layline of the void
Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt, Sol Rig makes it happen on Turn One, no?? Lotus petal or Mox Opal would also work in place of lotus. Turn One : Mountain and Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt. Tap Crypt for 2, Sol Ring. Tap Sol Ring for 2, (3 floating), Altar. Then sac lotus for white, tap mountain, play commander. Use floating colorless for equipment.
I like it but to run this effectively you’ll need protection from countering so run cards like grand abolisher to shut out interaction or force a kill spell early on to secure a good chance victory. I play a decent bit of high power EDH. Wonder how this will stack up to others.
Nice, besides the koblods, I already own most of these cards. Edit: actually don't own most of those equipment, but I doubt they would be too expensive.
Manna crypt, altar of dementia, Dual land, Mox Amber, simian spirit guide, ornithopter, free equipment. Cast crypt cast alter play land exile guide cast commander cast ornithopter cast mox amber tap amber for shuko equip to ornithopter sac to alter then repeat. Turn one win
Turn one Combo, do the same using Manacrypt and a lotus petal and simian spirit guide or mox diamond or chrome mox or jeweled lotus or LED. There is an second route as land u can use ancient tomb or city of traitors and then you need up to three of the colored fast mana. It also works with sol Ring and goblin Bombardment but then you probably need an Rite of Flame too.
Turn: ancient tomb tap for 2, cast boros signant, cast mana crypt tap for 2 use one for atler of the brood and the other of sol ring then tap sol ring for 2, use one to cast shuko and the other to activate the signant and cast koll then mill them all out turn 1.
huh... it's not Monowhite (one day...!), but with the sheer speed and redundancy this combo can have built into the deck, I suspect we'll see a few more Boros decks on our favourite neighbourhood cEDH channels when Kaldheim drops...
Land, jeweled lotus, sol ring/mana crypt, altar of dementia/goblin bombardment, impact tremors (both only if your land is a plains), 0 cost creature, lightning greeves/shuko, and then obviously your commander for a turn 1 win
Worth pointing out that you'd need to have produced at least 5 mana before turn 2 is over to manage this. That means, turn 1 land -> sol ring/mana crypt -> arcane signet/mindstone/thought vessel -> Shuko, followed by turn 2 Koll and Goblin Bombardment. It's a highly unlikely scenario. Turn 3 or 4 is doable though. However, after having seen this deck once, your play group will have worked out that removing Koll completely disables your strategy, so I wouldn't advice playing this, honestly. It's a one-trick-pony glass cannon.
t1 mana crypt into sol ring, paper mache lotus, play a basic, sac lotus and tap the land for koll, use the floating from crypt to play shuko, play ornithopter, tap sol ring for altar, proceed to sac and win. full 7 card grip XD, but its basically the same hand..... plus like 200$....
See this is why Tiana and Feather returned the card at end of turn; they even said they did it that way specifically to prevent this sort of thing! (Not that this is NECESSARILY bad, just weird to see it walked back)
T1 Rograk, legend mox, plains, manacrypt, altar of dementia/blasting station, simian spirit guide, shuko, easy. Play rograk, play mox and plains to cast commander, cast manacrypt for sac outlet, exile simian spirit guide to cast shuko, equip shuko go of
![Koll, the Forgemaster | Combo - The Brewery [S05E16]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wirN5oZcs5c/mqdefault.jpg)
Me reading the video title:
Great, another overpowered green card.
Me after watching the video:
BOROS!?
....but it’s in the thumbnail....
To be fair
Simic has had this for so long it's just a gut reaction at this point
Although almost all turn 1 wins have red or black in them, rarely green
@Conor Rodrigo Okay and what ya do withit?
Turn 1 win:
Mana crypt(card 1), tap for 2 mana
use 1 mana to cast sol ring(card 2), tap for 2 mana
use the three mana to cast: altar of dementia(card 3) and shuko(card 4)
play white land that can be tapped (card 5), tap for white
exile simian spirit guide(card 6) for red mana
play commander
Play ornithopter(card 7)
The rest you already know : )
after watching the episode this makes a lot more sense
There is one more way I've seen to get it done on t1. Will need ancient tomb, lotus petal, simian, altar of dementia, sol ring or mana crypt, sai, and a 0 dropper
I'm surprised that a Boros commander is busted. Good job Wizards!
you ever stumbled across winota? ;)
Wizards has been doing a decent job with Boros commanders recently.
@@ericzettl1563 Good point, good point
Zirda can be busted
Winota: am i a joke to you?
Honestly, I’m just happy Boros gets their turn with a dope combo.
**cries in Zirda, the Dawnwaker**
What I was thinking lmao
@@whirlwindsky Zirda is super cool but needs too many expensive pieces to make him work consistently, imo
Gerrard is Boros and has a sweet combo, too!
@@PhazonOmega he has several sweet combos.
There's
Gerrard + Loyal Retainers + a sac outlet
Gerrard + Hellkite Courser + a sac outlet
Gerrard + Nim Deathmantle + Ashnods's Altar
And while it doesn't directly involve Gerrard, since the decks you build with him will probably run these anyway, you can run
Karmic Guide + Reveillark + a sac outlet
Nothing about this card seem like it should be an uncommon. Probably filled all the rares slots already during planning the cycles.
Just standard things if you open this in a pack as a rare you pass it
It's uncommon because it's a signpost in draft, letting you know you can try to make a boros attachment deck, and also that dwarves are the tribe of those colors in the set.
Rarity isn't supposed to relate to power. Rarity is supposed to relate to complexity.
@@superbaas8822 shuold but it is
@@superbaas8822 exactly
All the cards mentioned:
Koll, The Forgemaster
Ornithopter
Shuko
Goblin Bombardment
Memnite
Phyrexian Walker
Shield Sphere
Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh
Crimson Kobolds
Crookshank Kobolds
Kobolds of Kher Deep
Skirk Prospector
Priest of Urabrask
Lightning Greaves
Grafted Wargear
Sai of the Shinobi
Stormrider Rig
Ronin Warclub
Hero's Blade
Obsidian Battle-Axe
Demonmail Hauberk
Piston Sledge
Puresteel Paladin
Blasting Station
Altar of Dementia
Thermopod
Ashnod's Altar
Phyrexian Altar
Spawning Pit
Martyr's Cause
Fanatical Devotion
Impact Tremors
Altar of the Brood
Enduring Renewal
Sol Ring
Simian Spirit Guide
If you do Ornithopter, Koll, SkullClamp and Ashnod's Alter that's infinite colourless mana and infinite card draw
Skullclamp kills ornithopter before Altar can react.
@@jakereynolds2960 na ornithopter jas 2 toughness, skullclamp only does -1
@@HexQuesTT My bad, I got confused.
If you used memnite you wouldn’t even need the altar, but then I guess you’d mill yourself put and lose D:
@@alecpogson7585 No, you wouldn’t have the mana to keep equipping the clamp (and also there’s nothing forcing you to keep equipping it, anyway)
Great shout out for "Enduring Renewal"...it was a key piece in my first infinite combo I ever discovered...way back in the day.
In the credits at 10:56 . As of this posting, I'm $3.00 for my Duel Decks: Venser vs Koth printing.
Turn one God hand: land+mox opal+mana cryp+sol ring+shuko+altar demetia+ornithopter+koll
And then cry when the blue player at the table has a FOW or mental misstep
I'd hesitate to call the card a busted commander. You have to run a multitude of awful or otherwise useless cards to make the combo consistent early on, and the combo is all it really has going for it. It lacks any real card advantage and being a Boros commander, it comes with all the flaws that Boros commanders have. If you cannot quickly get the combo, you will be doing nothing all game. Don't tunnelvision into the fact that he can combo off early, build deep into it, and call it a day. I doubt it will work out as well as one would like
I think a much more solid home for the card is in the 98 of Rograkh partner decks that have White. You get to save deckspace by having your 0-Cost creature in your command zone, have a second commander that gives you value, artifact synergy, or anything else you'd like to build into (Tymna, Arden, and Keleth are all things I'd look at personally), and in the case of Tymna/Ishai/Sidar/etc you get to include a third color to patch up Boros's weaknesses. More colors also means more tutors and flexibility, so that you can slim down your combo package and play a much more interactive and versatile game, which is both more fun for all players and much stronger across more games
A commander being potentially fast isn't the only thing you should look at. You need to look at card advantage, consistency, interaction, flexibility, etc. Koll lacks almost each of these, and even in the speed department he is beaten out by stuff like Anje, Godo, Rograkh/Silas, Goblin Combo, etc
I do appreciate this gives some attention to Boros and Mardu, though. Both were really lacking a solid combo option to call their own
Mitch has been hanging around The Instructor alot recently hasn't he?
Turn 1:
Mishra's workshop
Tap it for a boros signet, floating a colourless
Mana Crypt
Tap it for a sol ring, floating a colourless
Use the floating for Alter of dementia
Use the sol ring mana to cast shuko, floating a colourless, using this floating mana to activate the signet for koll
Then cast a 0 cmc creature
WIN
Mishra's Workshop, Lotus Petal, Simian Spirit Guide, Shuko, Ornithopter, Altar of Dementia, Mox opal and Silence on top of the library.
Crack lotus petal, play silence, Workshop out Shuko and Altar of Dementia, play Mox opal and exile Spirit Guide for commander, play ornithopter and win. T1 with protection.
“Altar of the Blood” lol
yup! that's what he said the first time. I had to pause and rewind to make sure I heard what I heard.
Turn 1 isn't just possible, but with the right budget/collection it starts to get pretty probable with about 11 different variations of fast mana the enable a turn 1 combo.
Turn 1: (Ancient Tomb + Sol Ring/Mana Crypt/Mana Vault/Mox Amber + Jeweled Lotus) or (Land + Mana Vault/Mana Crypt + Jeweled Lotus) or (Mana Crypt + Mana Vault/Sol Ring/Mox Amber + Jeweled Lotus) or (Land + Mox Amber + Mana Crypt) + Shuko/Shai of the Shinobi/Stormrider Rig/Lightning Greaves + (CMC 1-2 win con) + Koll + CMC 0 creature or Skirk Prospector. Turn 1 win. Heroes Blade will also work for turn one with Rograkh. Ashnod's Alter and Phyrexian Alter could replace the win con slot to produce infinite mana to cast another win con of greater CMC. Aetherflux Reservoir and Grape shop are perfect storm finishers for a deck like this.
Fast Mana Cards:
- Ancient Tomb
- Sol Ring
- Mox Amber
- Jeweled Lotus
- Mana Crypt
- Mana Vault
- Lotus Petal
Mana Engine Cards:
- Phyrexian Alter
- Ashnod's Alter
Win Con. Cards:
- Goblin Bombardment
- Impact Tremors
- Alter of the Brood
- Blasting Station
- Alter of Dementia
- Aetherflux Reservoir
- Grape Shot
- Fireball
- Comet Storm
Well of Lost Dreams/Dawn of Hope + Soul's Attendant/Soul Warden/Ajani's Welcome/Suture Priest/Diamond Mare + Phyrexian Alter/Ashnod's Alter is an infinite draw engine to insure you combo faster. Not to mention the infinite life gain gives you a ton of resilience for when you inevitable become archenemy, so it's not bad my itself. Alter of Carnage + Phyrexian Alter/Ashnod's Alter is another potential infinite card draw engine, but without the life gain requirement.
Card Draw Engine Cards:
- Well of Lost Dreams
- Dawn of Hope
- Alter of Carnage
- Skullclamp
- Staff of Domination
Life Gain Cards
- Soul's Attendant
- Soul Warden
- Ajani's Welcome
- Suture Priest
- Diamond Mare
- Aetherflux Reservoir
Fireball and Comet Storm are decent inclusions for if you get an infinite mana engine going as they'll just win you the game if they aren't countered or redirected.
Tiana, Ships Caretaker is a strong inclusion for the mid to late gate as when paired with Koll you equipment and creatures will go back to your hand. I'd run Wrath effects for my casual play as to sweep away your opponents progress make further card advantage.
So far Boros Eqipment Cheerios Aristocrats Combos is looking pretty gross. GG Wizards.
I was wrong. There's more mana fixing the can be done by casting Ashnod's Alter then sacrificing extra CMC 0 creatures to cast Koll then start the combo. Either (4 mana + Ashnod's Alter + 3 CMC neutral creatures + CMC 1 equipment with equip 0) or (3 mana + Ashnod's Alter + 4 CMC neutral creatures + CMC 1 equipment with equip 0). Koll and Feather making Boros great again.
I'm also wrong about casting turn one with Jeweled Lotus in most cases as I forgot that it only produces one color. I'm just too lazy to edit the mistake.
I had the realization while replying to another comment; that this is basically my Teysa, Orzhov Scion deck with red instead of black. So now I know that Karmic Guide + Reveillark or Nim Deathmantle are your extra recursion pieces. Cathodian and Myr Moonvessel are more mana neutral creatures, and Krark Clan Iron Works is basically another Ashnod's Alter. It just keeps getting grosser and more consistent the more I think about it.
It's busted, it's uncommon, it's in white and does combo so well. Love it so much.
ENDURING RENEWAL!
Deathrender allows Koll to combo with any nontoken creature if you stack the trigger to put it in your hand before Deathrender puts a creature from your hand into play and attaches to it. Also, there are cards like Sun Titan that can bring back an aura to attach to itself for the loop. You can also include Bludgeon Brawl to turn fast mana like Mox Opal or Mana Crypt into 0 equip cost equipment, for the consistency.
Now the boros precon has a reason why I should buy it just so I can use that
I really hope you do a budget list on him he looks so easy to combo
God draw for turn 1 kill would be lotus petal, simmian spirit guide, 0 drop creature, shuko, ashnods altar, mana crypt, and 1 untapped land.
My friend was telling me about this video a couple days ago, and it really opened my eyes to how good this card actually is. Also T1 win is absolutely possible with Mana Crypt & Mana Vault, but I'm not sure if the deck can win T1 with more budget friendly options. Still a very cool card, and I'm looking forward to running him as part of the 99 as a win con in some of my equipment themed decks.
I might actually be the only person who enjoys WotC doubling down on equipment with Boros, and this guy is easily going alongside Feather as one of the best Boros commanders for sure. Kind of reminds me of your Gerrard video awhile back!
I'm running a rograhk boros deck and this is exactly what I needed.
Yeah, I think Rograkh Boros and Rograkh Mardu decks are gonna love this combo. It's incredibly efficient and uses very few dead cards when you have Rograkh in the command zone
Cathodian is another "almost free" along with possibly Frogmite.
Dimir: “Oh? I see you’ve been adding more mill to your cards this set”
Black: “Heh, what could I say? You two have been rubbing off on me, guess I couldn’t resist”
Blue: “Ohohoho, we are so dirty aren’t we? Cant wait to bully the other 3 colors, we’ll turn their library’s into their grave yards. Ha!”
Boros: “hey guys what’s up?”
Black: “.....what?”
Blue: “....um Dimir....why is this peasant hand size color combo here?”
Dimir: “Boros, wha- how are you in our mill club? You don’t have any mill colors!”
Boros: “oh, well I found these artifacts and I saw how many games you were winning with mill. So I thought I’d try it”
Dimir “You’re always ruining things for me Boros, this is why WOTC hates you. I’d make you draw cards out of pity but you still wouldn’t be at a full hand size”
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that seems nice and balanced. FINALLY good quality kaldheim cards.
Some good backup finishers here are Storm cards, since you'll be building up a storm counter with all those zero-cost creatures. Grapeshot is the obvious one, but Ignite Memories could be potent as well. Empty the Warrens could get you some extra Impact Tremors triggers and add more bodies to sacrifice if you need something else--or give you a massive board.
I see your Boros combo and raise you my turn 3 Zirda Monolith Deck
cards needed in hand: a perfect 7: mox opal, mox amber, mana crypt, altar of dementia, plateau, rograh son of rohgahh, and shuko.
turn 1: mox opal, mox amber, mana crypt, tap mana crypt play altar of dementia, play plateau, cast rograhh son of rohgrahh, tap plateau play shuko, tap mox amber and mox opal to cast commander. win.
Just because you can win turn 2, doesn’t mean you always should...unless it’s cedh. If you pull off a turn 2 win at a casual table you’re probably gonna irritate the table.
I agree. There's a few ways to build this commander
Thats why this deck wouldn't play with those tables. Majority of players have multiple decks at different levels. This would sit higher up on the power scale, probably right below CEDH
@@jdavis2609 yeah, I don't think it's cedh although it might sneak the occasional win on a cedh table
Wouldn't Aetherflux Reservoir be a good card to combo out with because of the ability to recast your creature multiple times?
"kobolds are finally good somewhere"
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It's teshar but with equipment and an extra colour that can go off turn two?? Sounds pretty good to me.
turn one with jeweled lotus
I don't see a decklist for this Commander on the TCGplayer decklist link. Will you be adding one soon?
Your turn 1 god hand is: 1 plains, altar of dementia, memnite, shuko, mana crypt, and either lotus petal, simian spirit guide, or jeweled lotus.
Cho-arrim legate and kyren legate can also usually be used as free creatures for the combo!
Don’t forget that skull clamp that could help you dig for combo pieces
Me watching this video:
Let's go!
When I see the Thumbnail:
BOROS?
Plains into mana crypt into mana vault, cast iron myr and lightning grieves. Put boots on myr. Tap the colored sources for koll.
2 spots left plus your draw, let's say skirk prospector, goblin arsonist and simian spirit guide.
One red mana of of turn 1 win. But that's as far as off the top of my head can get.
Plains +spirit guide gets koll, easy.
Skirk + goblin arsonist + shuko =ping to death.
So, 3 cards including your draw to get 2 red and 1 generic from nothing.
Heart of Ramos gets 2 red from 3 colorless. So, 3 cards for 3 generic mana. Crypt + vault. Done!
I've Been thinking about making a Boros Deck, Thanks!
finally, its been years since I've seen a boros commander worth playing.
Feather the redeemed is a boss commander.
@@rhainex5952 true but she only really wants a fast game which isn't my play style. While Koll can be a combo or classic Boros equipment.
Wyleth is a good one.
@@raulcontreras8297 ngl I was really disappointed with them. I think a good Boros commander is somewhere between them and Akiri. The newest one.
@@noahhoffenberg6971 rograhk and arden is amazing. I played my first two games and popped off super quick and alpha strike my two buddies by turn 5
Pulled the alternate art from a pre-release kit. Gonna build this deck and test it out. Thanks for the deck tech. Should be fun to run against more powerful decks.
What card uses the art in this video that has all the swords, Sensei Top, and artifacts?
Land, mana vault, jeweled lotus. Others include lotus petal, Simian spirit guide, mana crypt, sol ring as mentioned.
At 8:05 ish Mitch, you said Altar of the Blood instead of Brood...lol
So weird hearing Mitch say Sol Ring
I have a question: if you are using an equipment with equip-sacrifice a creature, shouldn't the combo be unable to work since you pay the equip cost in the layer before the equipment is attached to the net0 creature, which will result in the commander not triggering?
Great addition to my Rograkh and Ardenn deck.
Lotus petal, mana crypt, sol ring, and a signet (arcane or boros), these are the ramp peices needed to pull this off turn 1, and remember to draw cause this needs 8 cards to pull off. And its fairly budget, except for mana crypt. But have fun with this knowledge.
Turn 1:
Plains, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Exile Simian Spirit Guide, cast Koll, Shuko, Rohgahk, Altar of Dementia.
GG
My favorite part about this video is I was already using this win con in a boros deck. This commander just makes it even better!!!
Scram could give you a draw and gerrard could make it even more fun. And if you need more artifcacts you could put in a bomberman package haha
Mana crypt, sol ring, jeweled lotus or lotus petal, ornithopter, a colored land, altar of dementia, and shuko in starting hand. Highly unlikely, but it's a turn one win.
Use a lion's eye diamond instead of a Mana flower, and use goblin bombardment instead of altar of dementia, and that's a less risky play.
@@heftybandicootgaming5047 definitely better with goblin bombardment, one eldrazi titan and you are just sad and defeated
Impulsive pilferer will work as well, since it creates a treasure token when it dies.
Honestly, Boros really needed some broken cards
Will you make a pauper version of this deck, Mitch?
Not much i can add to what has been said. Some creatures could be mana dumps for token creation. Doomed traveler, garrison cat, hunted witness, grim initiate. only if you have the sacrifice effects though with auto equip.
Sorry to have to ask, but is there a direct link to this deck, I tried searching the TCG link that was in the description, but I am not able to find this decklist! :/
Thanks for the share and thanks in advance for the link :D
Turn 1 Win, easy.
Jeweled Lotus, a plains and mana crypt as well as a one or two costed equipment that equips for 0 and 0 cost creature.
Play Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt and the Basic and tap all 3 for 6 mana making sure that jeweled lotus is for red.
Use one red and one white for commander, use nothing for the creature, use one and a red for goblin bombardment (you can use colourless if you get altar of dementia meaning you can also get a mountain), and use the remaining mana for your equipment.
And then do the combo.
Thus a turn 1 win
The mana from jeweled lotus can only be spent on your commander, so you won't be able to cast goblin bombardment.
@@fidly4 I guess in that case altar is mandatory and ud need a sol ring as well
Besides the combo I’m confused on this cards design. Why does it benefit equipped/enchanted token and nontoken? It seems to split the focus of the deck a tiny bit.
white has plenty to creatures that create tokens on cast.
I think the main thing was to benefit going wide with equipment/auras, and the best payoff for that was to protect your creatures from dying.
But, in a go wide deck they didn't want to discourage you from playing tokens, so they went ahead and a gave them a stat boost.
I love combos with Goblin Bombardment!
Sweet combo! Don't think I want to go all in combo, but having Koll in the 99 with some of these cards offer a nice backup plan
I was going to make this deck regardless just based on name. Now I'm glad I won't be laughed at as much
That was the first deck i ever made, Pebbles, and first deck i toke to my first tournament. Wow...i fell old, 21 years ago. Nice that they brought it back.
Its Fruity Pebbles in commander!!!!❤❤❤❤CLASSIC deck!!!
You are on top of these spoilers, dude! I hope you're having fun!
INCREDIBLE! It’s Boros AND uncommon! Need an edit on your OP uncommon commanders vid!
Is it normal that the link in the description has a lot of deck but there is only one that I find that is related to any of your video is turn 1 loss??? I think i have almost all these cards but to validate i want the list
Love this I like the 2 turn potential. But I have never been able to buy these decks you build from TCG player. I built one of your colorless deck builds. I want you to do a new +1/+1 counters deck.
I'll be joining a Commander league but uncommon commanders, I have been thinking about doing this one but am unsure..... its 100 dollar limit... any other commanders you recommend?
I much prefer Teshar. He may restrict your ability of colors to just White, but it also means you don't have any other colors to worry about. Furthermore, the objective is to get one of the many permanents you can have access to including Silence and it's counterpart where your literally stopping your opponents from stopping you from winning. Best case is if you have Grand Ablisher available to you. Ever since "masterminding" a turn 1 Gitrogg deck, i've realized that while you can get yourself into that position you end up having problems in the form of "the fun police" Force of Negation, Force of Will, Pact of Negation, and even a few other low cost counterspells that can fully disrupt your ability to win on that first or second turn. Especially Mental Mistep. Dealing with such counterspell action is resource taxing, more so than something that would get rid of one of your creatures.
I've been able to win from going to upkeep, opponent doing Path to Exile on Teshar, and being able to pull of a win condition. But i also understand how unlikely this type of win can be. I would LOVE to have a boros commander with a plan, unfortunately that commander is going to be Sunforger Zirda. I've discovered that unless your playing Blue, you shouldn't put too much reliance on the graveyard. That's why Selvala Heart of the wild and Korvold are so good at what they do, Korvold does have some use of his graveyard, but Selvala doesn't need the graveyard. You also have to remember that the graveyard was intended to be a place for cards to no longer be available, why some people run methods to exile graveyards.
Thank you for reading this "wall of text" comment. I wish there were more cards like "Deflecting swat" in red.
ok maybe im dumb but i gotta know; how exactly does lightning grieves work for this combo, if it gives the card attached to it shroud?
Hey Mitch with the new spoiler for maskwood nexus that deck you wanted to create might be possible!
I know! I’m pumped!
Did boros actually get a cedh commander? I was unimpressed with koll when I first saw him, but now that Mitch has pointed out a combo it looks insane. And I even knew all of the cards in the initial combo, I just didn't think of the combo myself.
Discount grummgully, similar idea as the persist combo, but at sorcery speed. Though it isn't destroyed by rest in peace, the cage, or layline of the void
Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt, Sol Rig makes it happen on Turn One, no?? Lotus petal or Mox Opal would also work in place of lotus.
Turn One : Mountain and Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt. Tap Crypt for 2, Sol Ring. Tap Sol Ring for 2, (3 floating), Altar. Then sac lotus for white, tap mountain, play commander. Use floating colorless for equipment.
I like it but to run this effectively you’ll need protection from countering so run cards like grand abolisher to shut out interaction or force a kill spell early on to secure a good chance victory. I play a decent bit of high power EDH. Wonder how this will stack up to others.
Nice, besides the koblods, I already own most of these cards.
Edit: actually don't own most of those equipment, but I doubt they would be too expensive.
I can tell you the equipments that say when it comes to play attach them are dirt cheap and Shuko isn't too expensive either
Buy now well their cheap
Really refreshing to see Boros get more steam like this! Keep the power coming Wizards! With any luck..theyll shift some of that power to mono-white?!
Manna crypt, altar of dementia, Dual land, Mox Amber, simian spirit guide, ornithopter, free equipment. Cast crypt cast alter play land exile guide cast commander cast ornithopter cast mox amber tap amber for shuko equip to ornithopter sac to alter then repeat. Turn one win
Turn one Combo, do the same using Manacrypt and a lotus petal and simian spirit guide or mox diamond or chrome mox or jeweled lotus or LED. There is an second route as land u can use ancient tomb or city of traitors and then you need up to three of the colored fast mana. It also works with sol Ring and goblin Bombardment but then you probably need an Rite of Flame too.
Turn: ancient tomb tap for 2, cast boros signant, cast mana crypt tap for 2 use one for atler of the brood and the other of sol ring then tap sol ring for 2, use one to cast shuko and the other to activate the signant and cast koll then mill them all out turn 1.
Also worth noting Deathrender work as a combo piece with Koll
Badass! Just started playing Boros. This could be fun to build
I really like the idea of a fast boros combo deck sounds fun
Hello I want to build this deck. I have some cards yet Im missing some... is there a link where I download the list.
huh... it's not Monowhite (one day...!), but with the sheer speed and redundancy this combo can have built into the deck, I suspect we'll see a few more Boros decks on our favourite neighbourhood cEDH channels when Kaldheim drops...
So something like metallic mimic on construct and walking ballista is inf damage?
Land, jeweled lotus, sol ring/mana crypt, altar of dementia/goblin bombardment, impact tremors (both only if your land is a plains), 0 cost creature, lightning greeves/shuko, and then obviously your commander for a turn 1 win
I just need the decklist, love this!
cathodion could also work, but youd have to have the initial 3 mana to cast it. after that it creates the mana needed to cast itself.
Worth pointing out that you'd need to have produced at least 5 mana before turn 2 is over to manage this. That means, turn 1 land -> sol ring/mana crypt -> arcane signet/mindstone/thought vessel -> Shuko, followed by turn 2 Koll and Goblin Bombardment. It's a highly unlikely scenario. Turn 3 or 4 is doable though.
However, after having seen this deck once, your play group will have worked out that removing Koll completely disables your strategy, so I wouldn't advice playing this, honestly. It's a one-trick-pony glass cannon.
t1 mana crypt into sol ring, paper mache lotus, play a basic, sac lotus and tap the land for koll, use the floating from crypt to play shuko, play ornithopter, tap sol ring for altar, proceed to sac and win. full 7 card grip XD, but its basically the same hand..... plus like 200$....
See this is why Tiana and Feather returned the card at end of turn; they even said they did it that way specifically to prevent this sort of thing!
(Not that this is NECESSARILY bad, just weird to see it walked back)
Who doesn't love a good combo
Can you please make a Deck Tech for this commander! I’ve never played a Boros deck and this seems like an awesome first commander to try out
Cript, mox diamond, land, lotus petal, the mox with metalcraft, altar, shuko and ornithopter
T1
Rograk, legend mox, plains, manacrypt, altar of dementia/blasting station, simian spirit guide, shuko, easy.
Play rograk, play mox and plains to cast commander, cast manacrypt for sac outlet, exile simian spirit guide to cast shuko, equip shuko go of
Alright, I feel more informed after this video. Koll is 'kill on sight'.