Alec Steel had a video recently where someone was taking 1/4 passes with a huge Cincinnati shaper. The chips looked like hub caps off a sixties era Buick
Nice footage! Reminds me of using a shaper 40 years ago. It lifted the tool/clapper box on its way back, so it didn’t datageneratie the tool. I did always grind my own tools, and learned a lot by doing that.
Hi mr Pete for some time I was disconnected from you Chanel,but I I’m glade you still make Videos , I think you are especial with all my respect you remember me my father he’s , gone but all ways teach me especially to never quit and that’s make me good person and responsible ,thanks for be who you are God bless you and your family
Thanks Mr pete, you answered about four questions I had concerning the shaper! Iam keeping an eye out for a smaller version like you have there, so many things you can make with one of them. Yes I do remember the good n rite phrase!:)
Ok, now I'm wanting a Chicago-style hot dog and I haven't even had breakfast yet! Someone bought themselves a fine old machine and I hope it was someone who is also a fan of yours as that would add greatly to the machine's value. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
I have an old Vernon (Sheldon) shaper. Think it's a 12" stroke. This video helped me alot since I don't have the manual for mine. Appreciate you sharing knowledge Tubal.
Thank you for this video, I have a Rhodes shaper I got from my great uncle 50 years ago, it's been sitting in the racks for at least 40 years, but now that I am close to retiring I might set it up again . Thank you for explaining how to adjust the stroke
Ineresting video as always, seeems the setting up can't be done in a hurry... Umm... did I miss the part where you showed how to set the amount the the work is moved between strokes?
I'll set it to one and a half inches, which is between the 1 inch mark and the 2 inch mark. I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos.
LOL.... "You can make anything you want on a shaper......except money" . Reminds me of the saying "The best way to make a million dollars as a woodworker** is to start with two million". (**insert your own hobby/occupation here)
That shaper is an old one, I have seen newer ones that not only have the b'guess and b'gosh, it has a b'golly. I think the b'golly makes it more accurate.
You did not explain why the adjustment of the two bolts on the clapper box might be necessary. The last time I used a shaper was over 50 years ago in school. I remember it was fun though.
Enjoyed the video... I'm not a machinist, but have a technical question regarding the mechanism... Understand the difference in speed between the stroke directions due to the distance difference between the cam the pivot point on the arm, but you said to center the stroke on the target with just a bit of overlap. If you do this, then during the return stroke the target will be moving into the returning cutting tool causing interference. Seems more logical to me to adjust the throw with a lot of free space at the end of the return stroke to minimize the interference. Is there something I'm missing, or is this interference not a problem?
I thought that the two bolts on the Clapper box was overkill and it is. I think that the reason that Rhodes did that was so they could achieve a steeper angle if you took one bolt out than if it was in center. Does anyone agree? Or is that clear as mud?
I much prefer the Rhodes method of defining the stroke length with the indices directly on the rocker arm with it set straight up and down. The system on the 10 inch Alba I have requires the rocker arm to be set in the full forward position with the bull gear adjusting slot set horizontal. The measuring scale is up on top right next to the ram slideway. I believe the Rhodes system is easier and more precise to set the ram stroke length.
@@mrpete222 Since the tomato is actually a fruit, then Catsup (Ketchup) should actually be considered a smoothie. You wouldn't put that on a hot dog...
I'm a simple man and one of the things that I look forward to is watching Mr. Pete's videos and drinking coffee on Saturday mornings.
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That even helps with my Logan shaper, Thanks for all the great information.
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Alec Steel had a video recently where someone was taking 1/4 passes with a huge Cincinnati shaper. The chips looked like hub caps off a sixties era Buick
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Nice footage! Reminds me of using a shaper 40 years ago. It lifted the tool/clapper box on its way back, so it didn’t datageneratie the tool. I did always grind my own tools, and learned a lot by doing that.
Don't think I have every been within a country mile of a shaper, but enjoy the tutorials, nonetheless. Thanks for all your efforts.
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Hi mr Pete for some time I was disconnected from you Chanel,but I I’m glade you still make Videos , I think you are especial with all my respect you remember me my father he’s , gone but all ways teach me especially to never quit and that’s make me good person and responsible ,thanks for be who you are God bless you and your family
Thank you, and welcome back to my channel
i just bought a 1942 8" Shape-Rite shaper, so this is great timing!
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For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. Wow love it
Great stuff Mr Pete
I haven't heard the Good N' Tite' joke in years! That brought as smile as it was going through my head as you said it!
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Thanks Mr pete, you answered about four questions I had concerning the shaper! Iam keeping an eye out for a smaller version like you have there, so many things you can make with one of them. Yes I do remember the good n rite phrase!:)
Thanks
THANK YOU...for sharing. Enjoyed.
Thanks for the video Mr. Pete, I love to see and hear these old machines work.
Hey, Lyle! Old coots know stuff. I don't know much but I learn stuff I'll never use from you! You're a fave poster, man! Thankyou.
Thanks for watching
I must say Pete, that's a hell of a good place for the 1 1/2" mark to be, right between the 1" and 2" marks.
You gave that old shaper life old man. From another old man, you are a good person. Bet it felt like selling your dog. Wasn’t easy.
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Lol "goodntite" german word. You always crack me up Tubalcain! I learn something and get a laugh every single video, always great work. Thank you.
Glad to hear it!
Ok, now I'm wanting a Chicago-style hot dog and I haven't even had breakfast yet! Someone bought themselves a fine old machine and I hope it was someone who is also a fan of yours as that would add greatly to the machine's value. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
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Good review Mr Pete. Thank you
very time intensive to make parts with! now I see why it's really to make a tool or fixture. I still want one haha
I don't machine or have a shaper, but that was quite interesting just the same. Thanks Mr. Pete
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Nice machine and ready to go.
I have an old Vernon (Sheldon) shaper. Think it's a 12" stroke. This video helped me alot since I don't have the manual for mine. Appreciate you sharing knowledge Tubal.
Glad it helped
Thank you for this video, I have a Rhodes shaper I got from my great uncle 50 years ago, it's been sitting in the racks for at least 40 years, but now that I am close to retiring I might set it up again . Thank you for explaining how to adjust the stroke
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Cheers Mr Pete!
Hello Mr. Peterson,
An enjoyable video thank you... when watching I got to wondering what is your favorite machine tool?
Have a good weekend.
Paul,,
Ineresting video as always, seeems the setting up can't be done in a hurry... Umm... did I miss the part where you showed how to set the amount the the work is moved between strokes?
Thanks for a great infotainment video.
Thanks
Thank you for that word, I might start using that
A simple but effective machine. The hand plane of the machine world.
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I'll set it to one and a half inches, which is between the 1 inch mark and the 2 inch mark.
I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos.
Thank you
I know people who NEED that explained to them and would not know it was said jokingly. Scary but those types usually become politicians.
@@ohmbug10 I imagine he had plenty of those people in his years of teaching.
Plus the sage advice, "You can make anything you want on a shaper....except money" lol
LOL.... "You can make anything you want on a shaper......except money" . Reminds me of the saying "The best way to make a million dollars as a woodworker** is to start with two million".
(**insert your own hobby/occupation here)
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restaurants how to make a large fortune into a small fortune happy halloween
Motorsports is especially prone to this phenomenon !
@@stevewesley8187 I fully agree
Does the rechet mechanism determine the granularity of the feed which can be set?
Enjoyed , thank you sir .
Happy hollwen
That shaper is an old one, I have seen newer ones that not only have the b'guess and b'gosh, it has a b'golly. I think the b'golly makes it more accurate.
You did not explain why the adjustment of the two bolts on the clapper box might be necessary.
The last time I used a shaper was over 50 years ago in school. I remember it was fun though.
Enjoyed the video... I'm not a machinist, but have a technical question regarding the mechanism... Understand the difference in speed between the stroke directions due to the distance difference between the cam the pivot point on the arm, but you said to center the stroke on the target with just a bit of overlap. If you do this, then during the return stroke the target will be moving into the returning cutting tool causing interference. Seems more logical to me to adjust the throw with a lot of free space at the end of the return stroke to minimize the interference. Is there something I'm missing, or is this interference not a problem?
Doesn’t seem to be a problem. Remember I am not an engineer or a mathematician
I thought that the two bolts on the Clapper box was overkill and it is. I think that the reason that Rhodes did that was so they could achieve a steeper angle if you took one bolt out than if it was in center. Does anyone agree? Or is that clear as mud?
I totally agree
I much prefer the Rhodes method of defining the stroke length with the indices directly on the rocker arm with it set straight up and down. The system on the 10 inch Alba I have requires the rocker arm to be set in the full forward position with the bull gear adjusting slot set horizontal. The measuring scale is up on top right next to the ram slideway. I believe the Rhodes system is easier and more precise to set the ram stroke length.
Yes, it is a pretty good system the same as the South Bend
Good looking, Chicago dog!
Mr. Pete, do you still own that John Deere 630?
Nope
@@mrpete222 sorry to hear that.
And your hotdog was great, except for the green bits! Don't like green bits, me. Thanks, Lyle! Like red meaty bits, me
Shapers, proof there is no difference between a want and a need
'Goodentight' is what they say in Germany when someone sneezes.
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"You can make anything you want on a shaper" Can a shaper make a hot dog?
Only if the hot fog really wants to be made
It cannot, but a hot chip down your shirt will make you say something similar very fast.
maybe if you get your hand caught in there
Makes very groovy hotdogs. 🌭
Ok
Thanks for the shaper refresher course,reminds me of my high school industrial shop days,circa 1963,never touched a shaper since.😂
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Goodandtight! I thought that was German!
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That hot dog needs some ketchup.:-)
Ketsup Iis absolutely not allowed on a Chicago style hot dog. It is considered blasphemy around here.
No, it needs a big pile of chili, cheese, & onions. :-P
@@mrpete222 Since the tomato is actually a fruit, then Catsup (Ketchup) should actually be considered a smoothie. You wouldn't put that on a hot dog...