There is a ROM hack of Emerald called Delta Emerald that includes stuff like Mega Evolution, Fairy Type, and the Battle Frontier. It’s worth checking out
@@baronvonslambert We would've gotten Lightning Yellow or Spirit Crystal by now by that logic Let's Go doesn't count, that's mostly just an ad designed to hook up the Go players to the mainline series
😂a terrible remaster with BDSP that gamefreak didn't even make, and a glorified open world beta test with PLA that barely resembles Sinnoh. they did Gen 4 fans dirty as fuck. at least Renegade Platinum with the following patch exist.
I was so pissed when they remade D/P man😔 i was really hoping for a platinum remake. It what it is tho, so we gotta live with what they gave us unfortunately.
I think Emerald and ORAS are equally valid. The former has the Battle Frontier and Gym Rematches while the latter has DexNav, Physical/Special Split, Mega Evolution, Delta Episode, but they left out the Battle Frontier I legit think that Game Freak should port ORAS to the Switch or its successor with features from Emerald added. Hell, maybe even add even more Pokemon to the Regional PokeDex like having the Gen 4 Pokemon who appeared in the anime prior to their games being released be added for example. They could keep Steven as Champion though but perhaps have Juan as a superboss like with Steven in Emerald.
I also have a proposal for how to decide which game is better! Emerald is better, because in Lavaridge Town there is the sand where you can walk into and it looks like you lay in the sand. Since ORAS is 3D this is not possible in the remake! Case Closed :D
Well there is one thing I don't remember being brought up and that is the physical special split making it so you no longer can't really use pokemon that have stats that don't align with there typing, that's one for oras
The physical special split is more of a side-grade that can be argued as a plus or minus rather than an objective improvement. It feels like a straight benefit at first because it's a quick fix to poorly designed Pokemon like Hitmonchan, which was clearly intended to have the niche of elemental punch coverage over Hitmonlee, yet can't realistically use these moves with its poor Special Attack. However, there are other Pokemon that realize this kind of idea properly, such as Gengar, which doesn't have the right stat layout to use either of its STABs yet is still viable offensively with coverage moves like Thunderbolt while still being able to benefit from its typing defensively. The physical special split removes this possibility by making every combination of typing and stat layout able to rely on STABs, homogenizing the design space and makes individual Pokemon less distinctive. Unfortunately, not enough Pokemon were actually balanced around the original mechanics (for example, Pokemon with unviable STABs like Sneasel should generally have had higher BST and/or better abilities). Nonetheless, there is enough there that for example Gen 3 is in retrospect considered one of if not the best OU metagames of all time (there are other factors involved like powercreep, but this is definitely one).
...and one point to RSE for overral look. i really like the saturated colors of RSE. meanwhile ORAS definitely upgraded some places, i dont like how washed certain places look
I'm playing through Omega Ruby on 3DS currently. Got it before the 3DS eShop shut down. I'll say this much: OR is just so refreshing to play after the disjointed Pokémon Violet. OR might not be as feature rich as Emerald from all the missing content, but it is far more focused on a consistent pace than even the majority of 3DS Pokémon version games. I just wish we had a more depth filled Pokémon version game like the B&W 2 games.
This is well said, and matches my thoughts too. ORAS feel cohesive and focused in a way that the switch titles don't. ORAS feels like a polished product. SV by contrast is unpolished, like a turd
I was born in 1991 so I was there since the beginning but Hoenn is still my favorite too so I don't think it's just nostalgia. Hoenn just hits different.
I pretty much agree with the conclusion. If you're not going to make a definitive remake of a game, at least make a game that is worth playing for its own reasons.
Exactly why I did not want DP remakes, and why I wanted remakes of platinum. For the same reason I never even wanted ruby and sapphire remakes because I always just wanted Emerald remakes. I would not want BW remakes if they don’t Also plan to remake BW2.
@@Holy_Crusader Thinking about it, that's a new reason i doubt we'll ever get Unova remakes, cause they'll either HAVE to do the sequels eventually separately or somehow fit the sequels in as one remade package like Another Code Recollection/the upcoming Dragon Quest 1&2 remake, which Gamefreak doesn't exactly instill confidence in their ability to do so atm. I dont think they can hit Gen 5 with the BDSP approach for this reason either.
@@ObrigadaJim i didn’t want legends arceus lol, the game is extremely overrated. The game isn’t as good as platinum and didn’t quite hit the same as platinum, legends arceus was also semi open world which I dislike, ruins replayability imo. I would have preferred a platinum remake aka a more linear Pokémon game, not a DP remake or a legends game, a platinum remake has more replayability then legends arceus, legends arceus is just grindy, the overworld feels empty with very little to do. I am strongly against the open world direction that Pokémon games have been heading in. I got bored of legends arceus after 3 times that I replayed the game, can’t ever say I got bored of replaying platinum.
@ that’s why I think they ditched unova remakes despite having obvious unova hints in the dlc of SV, they probably originally had plans to remake unova but they probably realized that their would be tons of negativity if they remade BW and completely ignored BW2. They are better off remaking GSC instead of BW/BW2. Even then I would prefer if GSC remakes also included a lot of or most of the content from HGSS, if I am not mistaken HGSS includes the entirety of Kanto where as in the original GSC Kanto was more limited in terms of exploration.
ORAS is weird like I cannot ever call it the definitive Hoenn game as a remake like what HGSS did for the og GSC. But it’s probably the last if not only modern Pokemon games with the least amount of issues to the point where from a gameplay level, I think its the closest Pokemon game to perfecting the older non open zone/world style Pokémon game (shame gen 7 and 8 were downgrades in that aspect)
I have to go with Emerald myself. I really liked the story changes they made to RS and I was disappointed they weren't kept for ORAS. Groudon made sense to be in a volcano, I wanted to see a 3D version of Rayquaza bursting through the sky. I think the biggest shame is that ORAS mixed with Emerald would've made the definitive Hoenn game to play. Magma/Groudon and Aqua/Kyogre in base locations that made sense, adding to the version differences. They could've taken a page from BW and do version exclusive Water Gym Leaders as we had two. And I prefer Steven as Champion over Wallace. I was close to having my ideal Hoenn games...
For some reason, seeing all the good things that ORAS brought to the table makes me wish Game Freak added Emerald content to ORAS even more. If Game Freak actually went through the work adding Emerald to ORAS while adding all the brilliant changes they made, we could've had a remake that was just as good as if not better than HGSS. But alas, it never came to be...
@@V-JesHGSS is a better remake since it actually keeps all of the content from GSC while adding more on top. There was also plenty of weird stuff that GSC had that ended up being improved or fixed in HGSS the idea that HGSS fixed nothing is false. If ORAS actually had Emerald content then they’d be on par with HGSS imo.
@@CEDL0W Most small changes from Krystal weren't kept in HGSS and the only noteworthy addition from Krystal was JUST the Suicune event and nothing else (and HGSS screws that up...) outside of graphical upgrades so it wasn't hard to keep all the noteworthy changes stuff to HGSS, meanwhile if ORAS kept all the Emeralds content it would objectively be a worse game because most Emerald additions aren't good at all like the useless phone that just wastes players time, the Team Magma base where you get random encounters and is a waste of time anyways because you accomplish nothing there, having to deal with more water routes that everyone hates, removal of an actual battle with the legendary to end the Team Magma/Aqua plot as that's replaced by a cutscene in Emerald, downgrading the champion with a Gym leader etc etc, while even in Battle Frontier what has 7 facilities yet only ONE of them is good (Battle Factory) with the rest being just complete garbage what is why nobody plays those these days and is the reason why those keep getting cut in modern games thanks to online battling and raids completely replaced single player battle facilities because the players actually play those...
@ I don’t expect ORAS to keep all of the story changes of Emerald they are still Ruby and Sapphire after all but it should’ve had the obvious improvements like the gym teams and being able to rematch them or heck the double trainer encounter thing emerald did so that the generation that introduced double battles could have more then like 5 of them in the game. Had the battle frontier existed in ORAS it obviously wouldn’t have been a copy and paste of the original it would’ve had quality of life changes especially by Gen 6, and it not being in ORAS was a huge missed opportunity to polish up some of the more annoying battle facilities. The Suicune plot had to change a bit to make room for Ho-oh and Lugia since they’re still the main legends, in Crystal Ho-oh and Lugia were postgame only and the suicune stuff was front and center so they swapped it in HGSS as it would’ve been odd to just have these two legendary plots end at the same time. The changes to the cell phone system, the password show and the extreme speed Dratini reward are all kept from crystal. The only notable Crystal thing missing that I can remember is the odd egg which was an event download in the Japanese version and only added into the base game with the other regions. It’s not that people didn’t like battle facilities it’s that they stopped making good ones. Sword and Shield’s battle tower was terrible they didn’t even try with that one, but if given the option most would trade raids for a modern PWT.
HGSS is a faithful remake of a bad game, GEN2 is the worst pokemon gen excluding 8 and 9, the pokemon selection and level curve is terrible. Why are the highest levels you can find in the wild 30, before the elite 4 16 badges into the game??????
It's still original Ruby for me... I find the excessive amount of double battles in Emerald annoying And as others have said I also feel the story and pacing are just better in the originals too
So you prefer a game with objectively worse gameplay in every way because it has muh meme frontier (were you even alive when the games were new?) and prefer the worst story addition the newer games have?
@@sigiligus the worse gameplay is oras. its a 20 fps laggy handholding, streamlined, linear, overblown experience and way too easy version of hoenn. "objectively worse" is so wrong lmao. sounds like you did not play either of them
@KrassomatXD you can literally beat Emerald with just Swampert, Swellow and the level 70 Rayquaza you get free with a Master ball, making it even easier than ORAS, while how delusional do you have to be to somehow say streamline and easy difficulty are bad things in a kids rpg... 🤦♂️
emerald is better in my opinion but oras is still pretty great even if they didn't have emerald content, since they at least added new content to make those remakes feel unique and gives them reason to be played rather than just going back to emerald
While I did enjoy ORAS during it's run, I started playing Emerald on set mode and getting my ass beaten by Brawly twice without potions made me appreciate the difficulty once I return and beaten Brawly!
3:16 Team Magma taking over the Space Center *is* in the remake, though. It’s just moved to the Delta Episode. You even show a clip of it at 3:42. Obv it’s reworked a bit with some minor differences-like how in ORAS, it’s Courtney or Matt going crazy and wanting to use the Space Center to blow up the region, instead of Maxie-but it’s meant to be a recreation of that part of Emerald as a fun callback. The Delta Episode is full of Emerald callbacks. It introduces the Match Call feature (not as a gameplay mechanic, but as a beta that gets introduced story-wise so Steven can call you), lets you battle Wallace’s Emerald team in a rematch, gives you a cool legendary cutscene involving Rayquaza (though in ORAS it’s a cutscene of you riding Rayquaza to stop Deoxys instead of Rayquaza flying in to stop Groudon/Kyogre), etc. Ofc there are still aspects of Emerald still missing, like the Battle Frontier and the Magma Base in Mt. Chimney, but there’s more from it that’s put into ORAS than you give it credit for imo. Otherwise, I agree with pretty much every point said in this video. I still love Emerald more, but ORAS does have a lot of good going for it that make it fun to play in its own way.
ORAS PROS IMO:Boosted starters with mega evolutions, Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon/Kyogre, better Exp share for easier leveling up, multiple uses of TMs, CONS: No battle Frontier, locking items behind flag catching and forcing participation in contests, fuck boring contests,.. Emerald PROS IMO: Introduces the best starter mons IMO, Story, "ok" difficulty level. EMERALD CONS IMO: level grinding, lack of multiple TM usage, "Regi" puzzles and sky pillar puzzle (I could only get Rayquaza legitimately years later, and only after I had cheated out using a GameShark, which I then regretted and attempted the sky pillar as an adult, resulting in negating any enthusiasm for achieving it because of burn out)..Clamperl's evolutions and Feebass/Milotic difficulty, psuedo-legendary only in post game .SIDE NOTE. This isn’t a critique of the GEN 3-6 games, or any Pokemon game in particular, rather of Game Freak/Nintendo themselves...or more accurately, an angry rant...Fuck Game Freak/ Nintendo for making some Pokemon only available through trades ( Catch’ em all my ass) I could only trade with myself originally, and for not supporting older gens/ i.e. shutting down 3DS store and wifi, lack of backward compatibility within consoles, I’ll never get Mew and and Zeraork in Ultra Sun now....seriously Fuck Game freak/Nintendo...I can’t finish their games and its by design...TL;DR, you don't have to agree with me, these are my opinions based on personal subjective experience... still, for what its worth, Hoenn games are my favorite, even though I was around for gen 1, I never got into Pokemon until Gen 3...
It´s obviously Pokemon Emerald. Sine it´s two Versions at once and has the best Legendary Rayquaza (who has the only good Mega-Evolution.) Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire as Remakes have the Flaw of being remade Variants of Ruby/Sapphire. So yeah, Emerald should have gotten the Remake Treatment, but no...
One thing I miss from Emerald was hunting down Kyogre and Groudon in the postgame. I loved how their presence affected the entire route and warranted TV broadcasts.
Emerald is better for being an extended story, and even improved the gameplay like adding overworld Ability effects that further Pokémon interaction. It, along with Crystal and Platinum deserve remakes by better and Japanese companies.
Weirdly enough Emerald was one of the games I did not get as a kid, because I thought "I have Ruby and Sapphire, why do I need a 3rd one that just merges them", so it was quite fascinating watching Emerald content when it blew up during Covid with the likes of SmallAnt and PointCrow streaming it and seeing exactly how much difference there was. Although I do think Emerald and OR/AS are both valid choices in their own rights, I'm one of the only people (seemingly) that didn't really care or invest into the Battle Frontiers at all, although I went hardcore in contests in the original R/S (and OR/AS). It doesn't excuse it not being there in OR/AS for those who wanted it, but for me it's a bit of a *shrug* point. When I first got OR/AS I was amazed at all the QoL that was put in (like Phys/Spec. split) and all the different things that were upgraded, without giving a middle finger to the originals. The original R/S will always be special to me and therefore OR/AS would be my choice in this competition. It's quite funny how I remember people shitting on OR/AS when it first came out, then a couple years later people started realising just how damn good those games were.
It's kinda depressing how Gamefreak's only had 1 remake that truly hit it out of the park. HGSS was an upgrade to GSC in basically every way unless you prefer 8 bit music and graphics, but the rest have felt more like sidegrades or worse. FRLG basically felt like a romhack of RS with recycled graphics, terrible remakes of the Kanto music, and a bunch of baffling decisions like preventing friendship pokemon from evolving. ORAS was good on its own but there were some pretty big reasons to play Emerald instead. And the less said about BDSP, the better. We really shouldn't have been hyped for Pokemon remakes for this long.
Doesn't HGSS still have the terrible level progression, small pokedex, and late game wall in Kanto? Admittedly I didn't play much post game but that killed those games for me. I really wanted to like it bc the idea of exploring Kanto is great but it was just so tedious. I felt the same way about emerald's battle frontier. I think the 3D world, dexnav, and updated mechanics makes ORAS my favorite remake. HGSS still felt too dated even back in 2020ish when I was replaying to say the whole thing was good.
@@theblueblaze1 Yes, HG/SS have their own small issues, but they're still the best remakes Game Freak has ever made. They're 9/10 games but not perfect. ROM Hacks have fixed these issues for the most part, like Mind Crystal.
somehow i wished game freak would release the third version in combination with the remakes. For example, thunder yellow for gen 3, liquid crystal for gen 4, delta emerald for gen 6 and legendary platinum for gen 8. Imagine with that timeline, their sales would be great on their own. We have pokemon legend AZ coming in next year, which come together finally.
In my opinion, I prefer both games but for a tie breaker, I would say which games had some very difficult battles, Elite Four battles, Rivals Fights, Champion Battles, etc. To break up the tie points, I should compare the difference between ORAS and Emerald and the most vote is "No. Of Attempts in Battles without Losing".
Its Pretty Simple. Emerald Had 1 Year Of Hindsight. ORAS Had A Decade. ORAS Being Basically A Battle Frontier And Some Difficulty Away From Being A GOAT Game (At Least 3D Game) Is Almost MORE Insulting Than Something Like BDSP Being WAAAAAAY Off The Mark.
No. Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are far worse. Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire don't have the battle frontier and you can't catch all 3 main legendaries of Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza in the same game but those are literally the only things that Emerald has over Omaga Ruby and Alpha Saphire. 🤷 Most people complaining about the Battle Frontier not being there don't even play it Emerald so big deal. Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire are good remakes.
@MarvinPowell1 nah I was just repeating what he said. For me Legends was a breath of fresh air for the series changing up the formula and giving us a prequel for Sinnoh. Not perfect but it felt like a great callback to Sinnoh.
@silentquake5154 Is it really a callback for Sinnoh, because I noticed it barely has lore ties in how certain things came to be in the present, and felt like a separate world that adapts some of the Sinnoh map, IMO.
@@zjzr08I'm not that familiar with Pokemon lore but 2 of the things I liked was Giratina having a change of heart from plotting against Arceus to saving the region from Cyrus. And them telling us that the Arceus we know is only a fragment of the real Arceus.
I think Legends is even worse than modern mainline Pokemon games, and by a significant margin. It has most of the same problems in being too easy and largely lacking dedicated dungeons and world interconnectivity, but it removes and simplifies many other features on top of that. I can live with only having one town, but removing abilities as well as held items and having hardly any trainer battles guts the battle system (nearly every battle is 1v1 where you know the opposing Pokemon before it starts, meaning that switching is mostly an irrelevant option). The added action RPG elements don't compensate well as they are mediocre and just invite unflattering comparisons with soulslikes.
Speaking of Juan, something OR/AS really could have done is for post-game gym leader rematches have him take over the Sootopolis gym. Likewise, Wallace should have taken over as champion for the round 2 elite four, and after beating him there, Steven should have become available with super boss levels in Meteor Falls Anyway, overall Emerald might be the most "definitive" version if only for its unified story featuring both evil teams and the full legendary trio. That said, I still probably like OR/AS more, for all the added quality of life features and expanded Pokédex. Much like HG/SS before it, and even to a lesser extent FR/LG, OR/AS updates an older region to what was at time of release the new modern standard. OR/AS is both nostalgic, while also standing as great set of games entirely on its own merit.
I was actually upset that the remakes didn’t follow the story of Emerald like HGSS did. So I rushed ORAS. I really feel like I missed out. I’ll replay them actually.
HGSS follow Gold/Silvers story with the added Suicune subplot from Krystal, but it completely screws it up by making it post game and by making Suicune badly underleveled to be even worth using...
@@V-Jes I personally never use legends in a play through. But I did find it a little annoying that the wrap up was moved to post game. But still, all of Crystals material was in HGSS. ORAS while a lot better then RS were, leaving out the emerald content makes them feel unfinished and that weird villain team dynamic is present and just as jarring as in the original RS.
@@virom4 Yet it's still better than how it's handled in Emerald where the player does pretty much nothing and doesn't even fight anyone to safe the day thanks to Rayquaza cutscene, making things just even more unfinished feeling what isn't helped by the fact that you don't even fight the champion in that version for the champion battle but another Water type Gym leader...
i give presentation to oras strictly on that wally fight. it's honestly the only reason i consider oras better than emerald. the MUSIC, the symbolism of the spider lillies, the emotion. like damn, i really wanted to lose that fight. it really gave wally a true story and made me feel fulfilled with a rival for the first time since N.
If I had to recommend which one to play for someone who has never played ruby or sapphire, I'd recommend emerald, if it was for someone who played the original, I'd recommend oras
Emerald for me, I much prefer the 2D art, there was a really nice charm to it that I just haven’t felt from any of the 3D titles. That, and I liked when trainers just ride their Pokémon without having to pull out a big bike mechanism or something ridiculous. It felt like people were more connected to Pokémon rather than just using them as tools.
“Who doesn’t like Pokemon Emerald?” Me. I don’t like Pokemon Emerald. I can’t stand Pokemon games with HMs. I think they were ALWAYS an incredibly idiotic idea and they should never have existed. Though to be fair, ORAS has HMs too. And I hate them just as much in that game. In fact they are the reason why I never finished it. I tried. I tried to look past them and appreciate the rest of the game. I just can’t. They ruin everything for me.
Emerald wins hands down just because of how grandiose the Battle Frontier was. But if there is any way to port the Battle Frontier to ORAS, then ORAS wins. You'd have to still include all the modern features ORAS has to raise Pokemon in the area competitively somehow and possibly rework the Battle Palace into something less terrible but if it can be done, it can be done. Also the Delta Episode should still be included and Emerald's encouragement of impromptu Tag Battles should be thrown in as well.
The correct answer is the romhack Emerald Crest. All features of the future games including all Pokémon, its own Pokébox app, dozens of options, open world options, follower Pokémon, new map events... It's basically perfect. It's even got Soaring. Emerald, with all of the good stuff.
For me it's still gotta be Emerald as my go-to Hoenn game. While I recognize all the quality of life improvements and character development ORAS provides, it comes down to how I feel playing both games. I still get the itch to replay Emerald, and find myself only ever wanting to replay ORAS once or twice, and inevitably dropping it midway through. (Yes there is some nostalgia bias in there too) ORAS being way too easy and handing out EXP like crazy detracts from the sense of progression and team building growth/connection. Most people make 2 or even 3 teams when EXP is abundant, but the feeling of not truly training the other 5 members of my team feels like a reward I did not earn. The games are so easy that I can just solo most of the game with my mega evo starter, and rarely have to swap. But then at the end of the game, I have a full team that is at the same level as my starter? It feels like I didn't truly "train" this team, and therefore it feels unearned and not rewarding. In Emerald, I like the idea of planning out my team beforehand, how I'm going to train it/parts of the game where it will prove it's worth on my team, and making sure each team member is properly trained and utilized in the playthrough. But I know that many people prefer being able to try out many pokemon, get enough EXP passively to evolve them, and try them out for a time before deciding on another new pokemon they're interested in. But that's just not personally how I play, unless it's a brand new game I'm playing for the first time! It all comes down to how people interact with and enjoy the EXP share systems of gen 6! But this, coupled with a free mega lati, boss fights having less pokemon on their teams, and having so many more options to get OP detracts from my experience of ORAS. But I recognize all of my negatives on the game are many people's positives, and it's really interesting to see other's perspectives on how they play a pokemon game :)
If they announced Delta Emerald, complete with the Battle Frontier tomorrow, GameFreak would probably end up with more money than the entire per capita of South Dakota
ORAS were my last purchased pokemon games. The braindead handholding difficulty combined with their decision to not put in Battle Frontier is when I knew the direction of the franchise. X and Y soured me with how dull and forgettable the experience was. ORAS just confirmed to me the direction of the franchise was to do as little as possible while making as much money as possible. I was dismissed by a lot of my friends online and IRL. Got called a hater among other colorful things. Here we are a decade later and it appears the majority have now caught on to what I noticed back then. I'm cool with it. I still go back and play the old games and the numerous fan games any time I have the itch. I've come to terms with mainstream pkmn never being any good again a long time ago. If you haven't guessed by this point, I much prefer Emerald or any fan game to ORAS.
Saying ORAS did as little as possible when BDSP exists is definitely a take. The beautiful 3D world, the dexnav, improved dex, new megas, updated mechanics, updated flight, and delta episode are all meaningful and none were necessary if they just wanted to pump out a remake. I understand being disappointed but tbh pokemon was never meant to satisfy fans like you bc most people don't play for difficulty. Rom hacks are made EXACTLY for fans like you so it makes sense. But as a person who likes to casually run through a main game whenever the mood strikes, ORAS is easily the best remake and is tied with gen 5 as a whole for best main game experience. There are way too many great rom hacks or just better RPGs mechanically to play for me to justify spending dozens of hours in the archaic gen 3 battle frontier. If it was 2005 and I had nothing else to play it would be a godsend but now I can just play any half decent rom hack of a later game if I want a challenge, let alone showdown or pokerogue. I can respect preferring emerald but saying the pretty grindy post game content not being in ORAS makes the entire remake lazy is a huge reach
Hey gireum, have you thought about making a video about the directors of the series and how changing directors affected the games? Doing the dex in ScVi makes me think it’s necessary to talk about it.
As much as I love the remakes, I prefer Emerald version. Not only do you get both evil teams to face off against instead of one over the other, which works better as a story. And Rayquaza coming down to stop Groundon and Kyorge will never be topped. And we got the Battle Frontiers with the 7 Brains. I wish we got to see their redesigns for ORAS but no Battle Frontiers. But, I do like Zinnah and the Megas.
The ORAS made me appreciate more than DBSP many ways even for me who hasn’t play many mainline Pokemon I can tell the difference between the two remake games like day n night
I also love both for differing reasons but I ultimately have to go with Emerald due to the sheer amount of content that appeals to me specifically (and I prefer sprite mon games as far as aesthetics go). I think the real interesting conversation is what is the definitive Kanto experience because although I choose FRLG I actually see quite a bit of people choose LGPE due to things like phys/special split and graphics etc.
If I had to guess, the developers totally had plans for a DLC on Pokemon ORAS. adding the Battle Frontier, Rematches to gym leaders, and maybe some more side content. but someone at GF said. screw it, we need to add more Pokemon content for merchs ASAP. I truly believe it, because if this isn't the case, adding the Battle Frontier miniature is just a big middle finger for the fans, and I really hope the developers wouldn't be a bunch of jerks, at least I don't expect this to be the case back in 2014. So, they killed 6th gen sooner, and rushed the release of 7th gen, making the Alola games, well... what we have nowadays. The 6th and 7th gen were way too short IMO, if for one hand I think it sucks because I did like 6th gen a lot, on the other hand it was good because I didn't care for 7th gen, at all. Good video, btw!
If you don’t want outdated mechanics, care about character development, enjoy Pokémon collecting, and want a more visually appealing and intricate game with advancement’s in training, catching and traversing the region get ORAS. Only thing Emerald has going for it is story and postgame content. Since story combines both legendaries into one game it’s feels more complete. The battle frontier actually gives incentive to train Pokémon and use an actual competent team to get into the nitty gritty of Pokémon battles. There is not reason to rank any Pokémon main story based on difficultly because the games aren’t hard enough to warrant actual strategy. That was why the battle frontier was so special for ingame content.I personally prefer Emerald because I like postgame content where I can pour hundred of hours but being objective ORAS is the definitive version.
Alright, but I'm more interested in what is the definitive Alola game, given that Sun/Moon has the better story whereas UltraSun/UltraMoon has more content EDIT: 22:10 Oh
ORAS should be the definitive Hoenn game, but it's Emerald. ORAS did not rebalance itself around the Gen 6 experience changes and if you, like me, like to take your time with it, it gets out of control very quickly. In my recent playthrough of Omega Ruby, I spent several days picking berries while rebattling all of the trainers I walked by and encountering most Dexnav Pokemon. I caught all Dexnav encounters I didn't have and caught more when they had a rare ability or move. This is the intended way to interact with these mechanics. But the EXP Share changes more than triple the EXP you gain, you also gain EXP from catching Pokemon. Trainer rematches are more than triple the odds of being triggered than the original, which means you gain more experience from this. Dexnav often increases the level of the Pokemon vs wild Pokemon in the area. Don't get me wrong, I love these changes, but the game doesn't balance around them. I had a Level 100 Pokemon entering the Elite Four for the first time and the Elite Four levels are barely raised.
I am playing through both Emerald and Omega Ruby because I love Emerald and ORAS was the only modren remake I like so I can FEEL the differences between the two, especially when it came to gym battles. There were numerous times in Emerald where I was basically getting legitimately scared because these gym leaders really make you put in the work whereas omega Ruby it's just a total joke. Though on the one hand I do like the expanded world building for the characters in the remake since that's what you're supposed to do you're supposed to expand upon the characters if you give us a remake. I would definitely say that Emerald has a stronger grip when compared to the remake but that doesn't mean the remakes are bad because once again I still would rather play them Then say a lot of the modern games and especially after the modern remakes in quotations of diamond and pearl.
@@pancakingon We all still had work and school that day, so it barely felt like anything happened. Watching it on the news, it felt like some movie in an alternate reality or something.
ORAS will always be inferior to me because of the various roadblocks they added when previously you could outright skip certain gyms and catch some Pokémon and get items early. Also you can't see the abandoned ship when traveling on Mr.Briney's boat! That Is unforgivable...
Where is Delta Emerald Gamefreak
None of the remakes have gotten a third version, so...
Never
There is a ROM hack of Emerald called Delta Emerald that includes stuff like Mega Evolution, Fairy Type, and the Battle Frontier. It’s worth checking out
@@genarftheunfuni5227 maybe in 10 or 20 years lol
@@baronvonslambert We would've gotten Lightning Yellow or Spirit Crystal by now by that logic
Let's Go doesn't count, that's mostly just an ad designed to hook up the Go players to the mainline series
gamefreak is dead
long live team luminescent and bdsp rom hacks
the one thing bdsp gave us lul
Life is hard as a Sinnoh-Fan...
😂a terrible remaster with BDSP that gamefreak didn't even make, and a glorified open world beta test with PLA that barely resembles Sinnoh. they did Gen 4 fans dirty as fuck.
at least Renegade Platinum with the following patch exist.
I was so pissed when they remade D/P man😔 i was really hoping for a platinum remake. It what it is tho, so we gotta live with what they gave us unfortunately.
No it's not, for Sinnoh Platinum is the obvious correct answer.
@@DragonDArrior You and the genfivers deserve it for the crap spewed about the 3DS era in the past decade
Perhaps in another 2 decades...
I think Emerald and ORAS are equally valid. The former has the Battle Frontier and Gym Rematches while the latter has DexNav, Physical/Special Split, Mega Evolution, Delta Episode, but they left out the Battle Frontier
I legit think that Game Freak should port ORAS to the Switch or its successor with features from Emerald added. Hell, maybe even add even more Pokemon to the Regional PokeDex like having the Gen 4 Pokemon who appeared in the anime prior to their games being released be added for example.
They could keep Steven as Champion though but perhaps have Juan as a superboss like with Steven in Emerald.
Or... Delta Emerald?
Emerald would be the upgraded version, Ruby and sapphire would be the original, and ORAS is the alternate version, but had a cool flight mechanic.
I also have a proposal for how to decide which game is better!
Emerald is better, because in Lavaridge Town there is the sand where you can walk into and it looks like you lay in the sand. Since ORAS is 3D this is not possible in the remake!
Case Closed :D
But, in ORAS you can actually sit, it emerald you can't.
Well there is one thing I don't remember being brought up and that is the physical special split making it so you no longer can't really use pokemon that have stats that don't align with there typing, that's one for oras
I thought Skynet caused the robot uprising though?
@@Andrew-ww1hz It did not. Physical Special Split was Gen 4
@@Andrew-ww1hzgen 4!
The physical special split is more of a side-grade that can be argued as a plus or minus rather than an objective improvement.
It feels like a straight benefit at first because it's a quick fix to poorly designed Pokemon like Hitmonchan, which was clearly intended to have the niche of elemental punch coverage over Hitmonlee, yet can't realistically use these moves with its poor Special Attack. However, there are other Pokemon that realize this kind of idea properly, such as Gengar, which doesn't have the right stat layout to use either of its STABs yet is still viable offensively with coverage moves like Thunderbolt while still being able to benefit from its typing defensively. The physical special split removes this possibility by making every combination of typing and stat layout able to rely on STABs, homogenizing the design space and makes individual Pokemon less distinctive.
Unfortunately, not enough Pokemon were actually balanced around the original mechanics (for example, Pokemon with unviable STABs like Sneasel should generally have had higher BST and/or better abilities). Nonetheless, there is enough there that for example Gen 3 is in retrospect considered one of if not the best OU metagames of all time (there are other factors involved like powercreep, but this is definitely one).
...and one point to RSE for overral look. i really like the saturated colors of RSE. meanwhile ORAS definitely upgraded some places, i dont like how washed certain places look
I'm playing through Omega Ruby on 3DS currently. Got it before the 3DS eShop shut down. I'll say this much: OR is just so refreshing to play after the disjointed Pokémon Violet. OR might not be as feature rich as Emerald from all the missing content, but it is far more focused on a consistent pace than even the majority of 3DS Pokémon version games.
I just wish we had a more depth filled Pokémon version game like the B&W 2 games.
This is well said, and matches my thoughts too. ORAS feel cohesive and focused in a way that the switch titles don't. ORAS feels like a polished product. SV by contrast is unpolished, like a turd
They will never make a game as good as bw2.
I was born in 1991 so I was there since the beginning but Hoenn is still my favorite too so I don't think it's just nostalgia. Hoenn just hits different.
Yeah I been playing since RBY too, the Hoenn games are also my favorite.
I pretty much agree with the conclusion. If you're not going to make a definitive remake of a game, at least make a game that is worth playing for its own reasons.
Exactly why I did not want DP remakes, and why I wanted remakes of platinum. For the same reason I never even wanted ruby and sapphire remakes because I always just wanted Emerald remakes. I would not want BW remakes if they don’t Also plan to remake BW2.
@@Holy_Crusader Thats why instead of platinum remakes we got something even better as legends arceus
@@Holy_Crusader Thinking about it, that's a new reason i doubt we'll ever get Unova remakes, cause they'll either HAVE to do the sequels eventually separately or somehow fit the sequels in as one remade package like Another Code Recollection/the upcoming Dragon Quest 1&2 remake, which Gamefreak doesn't exactly instill confidence in their ability to do so atm. I dont think they can hit Gen 5 with the BDSP approach for this reason either.
@@ObrigadaJim i didn’t want legends arceus lol, the game is extremely overrated. The game isn’t as good as platinum and didn’t quite hit the same as platinum, legends arceus was also semi open world which I dislike, ruins replayability imo. I would have preferred a platinum remake aka a more linear Pokémon game, not a DP remake or a legends game, a platinum remake has more replayability then legends arceus, legends arceus is just grindy, the overworld feels empty with very little to do. I am strongly against the open world direction that Pokémon games have been heading in. I got bored of legends arceus after 3 times that I replayed the game, can’t ever say I got bored of replaying platinum.
@ that’s why I think they ditched unova remakes despite having obvious unova hints in the dlc of SV, they probably originally had plans to remake unova but they probably realized that their would be tons of negativity if they remade BW and completely ignored BW2. They are better off remaking GSC instead of BW/BW2. Even then I would prefer if GSC remakes also included a lot of or most of the content from HGSS, if I am not mistaken HGSS includes the entirety of Kanto where as in the original GSC Kanto was more limited in terms of exploration.
ORAS is weird like I cannot ever call it the definitive Hoenn game as a remake like what HGSS did for the og GSC. But it’s probably the last if not only modern Pokemon games with the least amount of issues to the point where from a gameplay level, I think its the closest Pokemon game to perfecting the older non open zone/world style Pokémon game (shame gen 7 and 8 were downgrades in that aspect)
I have to go with Emerald myself. I really liked the story changes they made to RS and I was disappointed they weren't kept for ORAS. Groudon made sense to be in a volcano, I wanted to see a 3D version of Rayquaza bursting through the sky.
I think the biggest shame is that ORAS mixed with Emerald would've made the definitive Hoenn game to play.
Magma/Groudon and Aqua/Kyogre in base locations that made sense, adding to the version differences.
They could've taken a page from BW and do version exclusive Water Gym Leaders as we had two.
And I prefer Steven as Champion over Wallace.
I was close to having my ideal Hoenn games...
For some reason, seeing all the good things that ORAS brought to the table makes me wish Game Freak added Emerald content to ORAS even more. If Game Freak actually went through the work adding Emerald to ORAS while adding all the brilliant changes they made, we could've had a remake that was just as good as if not better than HGSS. But alas, it never came to be...
Just as good as HGSS? It's already better than HGSS by actually fixing issues from the originals rather than ignoring them or making them worse...
@@V-JesHGSS is a better remake since it actually keeps all of the content from GSC while adding more on top. There was also plenty of weird stuff that GSC had that ended up being improved or fixed in HGSS the idea that HGSS fixed nothing is false. If ORAS actually had Emerald content then they’d be on par with HGSS imo.
@@CEDL0W Most small changes from Krystal weren't kept in HGSS and the only noteworthy addition from Krystal was JUST the Suicune event and nothing else (and HGSS screws that up...) outside of graphical upgrades so it wasn't hard to keep all the noteworthy changes stuff to HGSS, meanwhile if ORAS kept all the Emeralds content it would objectively be a worse game because most Emerald additions aren't good at all like the useless phone that just wastes players time, the Team Magma base where you get random encounters and is a waste of time anyways because you accomplish nothing there, having to deal with more water routes that everyone hates, removal of an actual battle with the legendary to end the Team Magma/Aqua plot as that's replaced by a cutscene in Emerald, downgrading the champion with a Gym leader etc etc, while even in Battle Frontier what has 7 facilities yet only ONE of them is good (Battle Factory) with the rest being just complete garbage what is why nobody plays those these days and is the reason why those keep getting cut in modern games thanks to online battling and raids completely replaced single player battle facilities because the players actually play those...
@ I don’t expect ORAS to keep all of the story changes of Emerald they are still Ruby and Sapphire after all but it should’ve had the obvious improvements like the gym teams and being able to rematch them or heck the double trainer encounter thing emerald did so that the generation that introduced double battles could have more then like 5 of them in the game. Had the battle frontier existed in ORAS it obviously wouldn’t have been a copy and paste of the original it would’ve had quality of life changes especially by Gen 6, and it not being in ORAS was a huge missed opportunity to polish up some of the more annoying battle facilities. The Suicune plot had to change a bit to make room for Ho-oh and Lugia since they’re still the main legends, in Crystal Ho-oh and Lugia were postgame only and the suicune stuff was front and center so they swapped it in HGSS as it would’ve been odd to just have these two legendary plots end at the same time. The changes to the cell phone system, the password show and the extreme speed Dratini reward are all kept from crystal. The only notable Crystal thing missing that I can remember is the odd egg which was an event download in the Japanese version and only added into the base game with the other regions. It’s not that people didn’t like battle facilities it’s that they stopped making good ones. Sword and Shield’s battle tower was terrible they didn’t even try with that one, but if given the option most would trade raids for a modern PWT.
HGSS is a faithful remake of a bad game, GEN2 is the worst pokemon gen excluding 8 and 9, the pokemon selection and level curve is terrible. Why are the highest levels you can find in the wild 30, before the elite 4 16 badges into the game??????
It's still original Ruby for me... I find the excessive amount of double battles in Emerald annoying
And as others have said I also feel the story and pacing are just better in the originals too
Emerald for gameplay due to battle frontier, ORAS for story due to Delta episode
So you prefer a game with objectively worse gameplay in every way because it has muh meme frontier (were you even alive when the games were new?) and prefer the worst story addition the newer games have?
@@sigiligus the worse gameplay is oras. its a 20 fps laggy handholding, streamlined, linear, overblown experience and way too easy version of hoenn. "objectively worse" is so wrong lmao. sounds like you did not play either of them
@KrassomatXD you can literally beat Emerald with just Swampert, Swellow and the level 70 Rayquaza you get free with a Master ball, making it even easier than ORAS, while how delusional do you have to be to somehow say streamline and easy difficulty are bad things in a kids rpg... 🤦♂️
@@sigiligus I have played since I got Pokemon Red on Christmas 99 ;- )
"Objectively worst" - clearly baiting, anon
@@V-Jesyou’re a clown
I lean more towards ORAS purely due to having more quality of life features that more modern pokemon games have.
i prefer the one with mega evolutions and a physical/special split, but oras should also have the frontier
emerald is better in my opinion but oras is still pretty great even if they didn't have emerald content, since they at least added new content to make those remakes feel unique and gives them reason to be played rather than just going back to emerald
Fave Designs of Brendan and May: Emerald Brendan and ORAS May ✌️
While I did enjoy ORAS during it's run, I started playing Emerald on set mode and getting my ass beaten by Brawly twice without potions made me appreciate the difficulty once I return and beaten Brawly!
3:16 Team Magma taking over the Space Center *is* in the remake, though. It’s just moved to the Delta Episode. You even show a clip of it at 3:42.
Obv it’s reworked a bit with some minor differences-like how in ORAS, it’s Courtney or Matt going crazy and wanting to use the Space Center to blow up the region, instead of Maxie-but it’s meant to be a recreation of that part of Emerald as a fun callback.
The Delta Episode is full of Emerald callbacks. It introduces the Match Call feature (not as a gameplay mechanic, but as a beta that gets introduced story-wise so Steven can call you), lets you battle Wallace’s Emerald team in a rematch, gives you a cool legendary cutscene involving Rayquaza (though in ORAS it’s a cutscene of you riding Rayquaza to stop Deoxys instead of Rayquaza flying in to stop Groudon/Kyogre), etc.
Ofc there are still aspects of Emerald still missing, like the Battle Frontier and the Magma Base in Mt. Chimney, but there’s more from it that’s put into ORAS than you give it credit for imo.
Otherwise, I agree with pretty much every point said in this video. I still love Emerald more, but ORAS does have a lot of good going for it that make it fun to play in its own way.
Oras redesigns are so good
ORAS PROS IMO:Boosted starters with mega evolutions, Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon/Kyogre, better Exp share for easier leveling up, multiple uses of TMs, CONS: No battle Frontier, locking items behind flag catching and forcing participation in contests, fuck boring contests,.. Emerald PROS IMO: Introduces the best starter mons IMO, Story, "ok" difficulty level. EMERALD CONS IMO: level grinding, lack of multiple TM usage, "Regi" puzzles and sky pillar puzzle (I could only get Rayquaza legitimately years later, and only after I had cheated out using a GameShark, which I then regretted and attempted the sky pillar as an adult, resulting in negating any enthusiasm for achieving it because of burn out)..Clamperl's evolutions and Feebass/Milotic difficulty, psuedo-legendary only in post game .SIDE NOTE. This isn’t a critique of the GEN 3-6 games, or any Pokemon game in particular, rather of Game Freak/Nintendo themselves...or more accurately, an angry rant...Fuck Game Freak/ Nintendo for making some Pokemon only available through trades ( Catch’ em all my ass) I could only trade with myself originally, and for not supporting older gens/ i.e. shutting down 3DS store and wifi, lack of backward compatibility within consoles, I’ll never get Mew and and Zeraork in Ultra Sun now....seriously Fuck Game freak/Nintendo...I can’t finish their games and its by design...TL;DR, you don't have to agree with me, these are my opinions based on personal subjective experience... still, for what its worth, Hoenn games are my favorite, even though I was around for gen 1, I never got into Pokemon until Gen 3...
Emerald easily.
Quite the twist at the end! What a close game!
It´s obviously Pokemon Emerald.
Sine it´s two Versions at once and has the best Legendary Rayquaza (who has the only good Mega-Evolution.)
Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire as Remakes have the Flaw of being remade Variants of Ruby/Sapphire.
So yeah, Emerald should have gotten the Remake Treatment, but no...
One thing I miss from Emerald was hunting down Kyogre and Groudon in the postgame. I loved how their presence affected the entire route and warranted TV broadcasts.
The one where you get both legendaries, obviously
Nice to see you are back!
Emerald 100%
But Rubin and Sapphire are great too and don't feel half baked like Gold, Silver and D/P.
Gold and Silver arent really half baked
21:46 fun fact: in the german version of ORAS the moving company Machokes for some reason say the German name if Machamp.
It’s crazy to think this year ORAS is 10 years old and next week Emerald will be 20
Emerald is better for being an extended story, and even improved the gameplay like adding overworld Ability effects that further Pokémon interaction. It, along with Crystal and Platinum deserve remakes by better and Japanese companies.
Emerald is mostly better in the aspects that matters the most like basic difficulty and level/region design.
Weirdly enough Emerald was one of the games I did not get as a kid, because I thought "I have Ruby and Sapphire, why do I need a 3rd one that just merges them", so it was quite fascinating watching Emerald content when it blew up during Covid with the likes of SmallAnt and PointCrow streaming it and seeing exactly how much difference there was.
Although I do think Emerald and OR/AS are both valid choices in their own rights, I'm one of the only people (seemingly) that didn't really care or invest into the Battle Frontiers at all, although I went hardcore in contests in the original R/S (and OR/AS). It doesn't excuse it not being there in OR/AS for those who wanted it, but for me it's a bit of a *shrug* point. When I first got OR/AS I was amazed at all the QoL that was put in (like Phys/Spec. split) and all the different things that were upgraded, without giving a middle finger to the originals. The original R/S will always be special to me and therefore OR/AS would be my choice in this competition.
It's quite funny how I remember people shitting on OR/AS when it first came out, then a couple years later people started realising just how damn good those games were.
It's kinda depressing how Gamefreak's only had 1 remake that truly hit it out of the park. HGSS was an upgrade to GSC in basically every way unless you prefer 8 bit music and graphics, but the rest have felt more like sidegrades or worse. FRLG basically felt like a romhack of RS with recycled graphics, terrible remakes of the Kanto music, and a bunch of baffling decisions like preventing friendship pokemon from evolving. ORAS was good on its own but there were some pretty big reasons to play Emerald instead. And the less said about BDSP, the better. We really shouldn't have been hyped for Pokemon remakes for this long.
Doesn't HGSS still have the terrible level progression, small pokedex, and late game wall in Kanto? Admittedly I didn't play much post game but that killed those games for me.
I really wanted to like it bc the idea of exploring Kanto is great but it was just so tedious. I felt the same way about emerald's battle frontier.
I think the 3D world, dexnav, and updated mechanics makes ORAS my favorite remake. HGSS still felt too dated even back in 2020ish when I was replaying to say the whole thing was good.
@@theblueblaze1
Yes, HG/SS have their own small issues, but they're still the best remakes Game Freak has ever made. They're 9/10 games but not perfect. ROM Hacks have fixed these issues for the most part, like Mind Crystal.
somehow i wished game freak would release the third version in combination with the remakes. For example, thunder yellow for gen 3, liquid crystal for gen 4, delta emerald for gen 6 and legendary platinum for gen 8. Imagine with that timeline, their sales would be great on their own. We have pokemon legend AZ coming in next year, which come together finally.
In my opinion, I prefer both games but for a tie breaker, I would say which games had some very difficult battles, Elite Four battles, Rivals Fights, Champion Battles, etc.
To break up the tie points, I should compare the difference between ORAS and Emerald and the most vote is "No. Of Attempts in Battles without Losing".
Oras is for a playthrough and not much more after delta episode
Emerald is for doing a lot more postgame
Its Pretty Simple. Emerald Had 1 Year Of Hindsight. ORAS Had A Decade. ORAS Being Basically A Battle Frontier And Some Difficulty Away From Being A GOAT Game (At Least 3D Game) Is Almost MORE Insulting Than Something Like BDSP Being WAAAAAAY Off The Mark.
No. Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl are far worse. Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire don't have the battle frontier and you can't catch all 3 main legendaries of Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza in the same game but those are literally the only things that Emerald has over Omaga Ruby and Alpha Saphire. 🤷
Most people complaining about the Battle Frontier not being there don't even play it Emerald so big deal.
Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire are good remakes.
21:28 Legends a Zelda ripoff? That beta test game is still better than anything game freak has given us since Gen 5 lmao
Dry shit is still "better" than wet shit. That doesn't make it good.
@MarvinPowell1 nah I was just repeating what he said. For me Legends was a breath of fresh air for the series changing up the formula and giving us a prequel for Sinnoh. Not perfect but it felt like a great callback to Sinnoh.
@silentquake5154 Is it really a callback for Sinnoh, because I noticed it barely has lore ties in how certain things came to be in the present, and felt like a separate world that adapts some of the Sinnoh map, IMO.
@@zjzr08I'm not that familiar with Pokemon lore but 2 of the things I liked was Giratina having a change of heart from plotting against Arceus to saving the region from Cyrus. And them telling us that the Arceus we know is only a fragment of the real Arceus.
I think Legends is even worse than modern mainline Pokemon games, and by a significant margin.
It has most of the same problems in being too easy and largely lacking dedicated dungeons and world interconnectivity, but it removes and simplifies many other features on top of that. I can live with only having one town, but removing abilities as well as held items and having hardly any trainer battles guts the battle system (nearly every battle is 1v1 where you know the opposing Pokemon before it starts, meaning that switching is mostly an irrelevant option). The added action RPG elements don't compensate well as they are mediocre and just invite unflattering comparisons with soulslikes.
Speaking of Juan, something OR/AS really could have done is for post-game gym leader rematches have him take over the Sootopolis gym. Likewise, Wallace should have taken over as champion for the round 2 elite four, and after beating him there, Steven should have become available with super boss levels in Meteor Falls
Anyway, overall Emerald might be the most "definitive" version if only for its unified story featuring both evil teams and the full legendary trio. That said, I still probably like OR/AS more, for all the added quality of life features and expanded Pokédex. Much like HG/SS before it, and even to a lesser extent FR/LG, OR/AS updates an older region to what was at time of release the new modern standard. OR/AS is both nostalgic, while also standing as great set of games entirely on its own merit.
It's been a long time Gireum
I was actually upset that the remakes didn’t follow the story of Emerald like HGSS did. So I rushed ORAS. I really feel like I missed out. I’ll replay them actually.
HGSS follow Gold/Silvers story with the added Suicune subplot from Krystal, but it completely screws it up by making it post game and by making Suicune badly underleveled to be even worth using...
@@V-Jes I personally never use legends in a play through. But I did find it a little annoying that the wrap up was moved to post game. But still, all of Crystals material was in HGSS. ORAS while a lot better then RS were, leaving out the emerald content makes them feel unfinished and that weird villain team dynamic is present and just as jarring as in the original RS.
@@virom4 Yet it's still better than how it's handled in Emerald where the player does pretty much nothing and doesn't even fight anyone to safe the day thanks to Rayquaza cutscene, making things just even more unfinished feeling what isn't helped by the fact that you don't even fight the champion in that version for the champion battle but another Water type Gym leader...
@ I agree. And all of that could have, and should have, been addressed in ORAS. But instead they just left it all on the cutting room floor.
the answer is Inclement Emerald
You should make a video ranking all the regions from favorites. Also currently replaying through Alpha Sapphire with a mono water team lmao
I really appreciated the protagonist being named JJ Abrams.
Seaglass Emerald
If you really care about having battling (difficulty + post game facilities), play emerald. Otherwise, I'd say oras is better
Oras is good but Emerald is still way better
Nice video, never really stopped to think and compare both games in that way.
i give presentation to oras strictly on that wally fight. it's honestly the only reason i consider oras better than emerald. the MUSIC, the symbolism of the spider lillies, the emotion. like damn, i really wanted to lose that fight. it really gave wally a true story and made me feel fulfilled with a rival for the first time since N.
If I had to recommend which one to play for someone who has never played ruby or sapphire, I'd recommend emerald, if it was for someone who played the original, I'd recommend oras
Emerald for me, I much prefer the 2D art, there was a really nice charm to it that I just haven’t felt from any of the 3D titles. That, and I liked when trainers just ride their Pokémon without having to pull out a big bike mechanism or something ridiculous. It felt like people were more connected to Pokémon rather than just using them as tools.
“Who doesn’t like Pokemon Emerald?”
Me. I don’t like Pokemon Emerald. I can’t stand Pokemon games with HMs. I think they were ALWAYS an incredibly idiotic idea and they should never have existed. Though to be fair, ORAS has HMs too. And I hate them just as much in that game. In fact they are the reason why I never finished it. I tried. I tried to look past them and appreciate the rest of the game. I just can’t. They ruin everything for me.
3:50 C mon bro at least Legends was fun.
It’s a great day when Gireum post!
ORAS did not have the cool "location preview" art that that shows when you enter an area in the previous remakes. Unforgivable -38/10
Emerald wins hands down just because of how grandiose the Battle Frontier was. But if there is any way to port the Battle Frontier to ORAS, then ORAS wins. You'd have to still include all the modern features ORAS has to raise Pokemon in the area competitively somehow and possibly rework the Battle Palace into something less terrible but if it can be done, it can be done.
Also the Delta Episode should still be included and Emerald's encouragement of impromptu Tag Battles should be thrown in as well.
It's Emerald.
Hoenn will always be my favorite region. I love Hoenn in gen 3 and I love it gen 6. Platinum, HGSS are pretty solid too.
The correct answer is the romhack Emerald Crest. All features of the future games including all Pokémon, its own Pokébox app, dozens of options, open world options, follower Pokémon, new map events... It's basically perfect. It's even got Soaring. Emerald, with all of the good stuff.
There is always Pokemmo where you can play Emerald among many other players online.
I would combine the Hoenn of ORAS and the Hoenn of Emerald to create a new Ultimate Hoenn.
That imaginary Delta Emerald game is the definitive Hoenn.
Well in a few days, Emerald Legacy will be the definitive Hoenn game
Might be biased as a 1997 baby but this man might be the best Pokemon RUclips essayist of all time
The man is back
Emerald Brendan is best trainer design wise.
17:53 "would you like to put your hand deep in the hole?" 💀
For me it's still gotta be Emerald as my go-to Hoenn game. While I recognize all the quality of life improvements and character development ORAS provides, it comes down to how I feel playing both games. I still get the itch to replay Emerald, and find myself only ever wanting to replay ORAS once or twice, and inevitably dropping it midway through. (Yes there is some nostalgia bias in there too)
ORAS being way too easy and handing out EXP like crazy detracts from the sense of progression and team building growth/connection. Most people make 2 or even 3 teams when EXP is abundant, but the feeling of not truly training the other 5 members of my team feels like a reward I did not earn. The games are so easy that I can just solo most of the game with my mega evo starter, and rarely have to swap. But then at the end of the game, I have a full team that is at the same level as my starter? It feels like I didn't truly "train" this team, and therefore it feels unearned and not rewarding.
In Emerald, I like the idea of planning out my team beforehand, how I'm going to train it/parts of the game where it will prove it's worth on my team, and making sure each team member is properly trained and utilized in the playthrough. But I know that many people prefer being able to try out many pokemon, get enough EXP passively to evolve them, and try them out for a time before deciding on another new pokemon they're interested in. But that's just not personally how I play, unless it's a brand new game I'm playing for the first time!
It all comes down to how people interact with and enjoy the EXP share systems of gen 6! But this, coupled with a free mega lati, boss fights having less pokemon on their teams, and having so many more options to get OP detracts from my experience of ORAS. But I recognize all of my negatives on the game are many people's positives, and it's really interesting to see other's perspectives on how they play a pokemon game :)
If they announced Delta Emerald, complete with the Battle Frontier tomorrow, GameFreak would probably end up with more money than the entire per capita of South Dakota
ORAS were my last purchased pokemon games. The braindead handholding difficulty combined with their decision to not put in Battle Frontier is when I knew the direction of the franchise. X and Y soured me with how dull and forgettable the experience was. ORAS just confirmed to me the direction of the franchise was to do as little as possible while making as much money as possible. I was dismissed by a lot of my friends online and IRL. Got called a hater among other colorful things. Here we are a decade later and it appears the majority have now caught on to what I noticed back then. I'm cool with it. I still go back and play the old games and the numerous fan games any time I have the itch. I've come to terms with mainstream pkmn never being any good again a long time ago.
If you haven't guessed by this point, I much prefer Emerald or any fan game to ORAS.
Saying ORAS did as little as possible when BDSP exists is definitely a take. The beautiful 3D world, the dexnav, improved dex, new megas, updated mechanics, updated flight, and delta episode are all meaningful and none were necessary if they just wanted to pump out a remake.
I understand being disappointed but tbh pokemon was never meant to satisfy fans like you bc most people don't play for difficulty. Rom hacks are made EXACTLY for fans like you so it makes sense.
But as a person who likes to casually run through a main game whenever the mood strikes, ORAS is easily the best remake and is tied with gen 5 as a whole for best main game experience.
There are way too many great rom hacks or just better RPGs mechanically to play for me to justify spending dozens of hours in the archaic gen 3 battle frontier.
If it was 2005 and I had nothing else to play it would be a godsend but now I can just play any half decent rom hack of a later game if I want a challenge, let alone showdown or pokerogue.
I can respect preferring emerald but saying the pretty grindy post game content not being in ORAS makes the entire remake lazy is a huge reach
Hey gireum, have you thought about making a video about the directors of the series and how changing directors affected the games? Doing the dex in ScVi makes me think it’s necessary to talk about it.
Emerald if you want an enhanced story with new areas. ORAS if you want a modern version with quality of life improvements and new features.
As much as I love the remakes, I prefer Emerald version.
Not only do you get both evil teams to face off against instead of one over the other, which works better as a story.
And Rayquaza coming down to stop Groundon and Kyorge will never be topped.
And we got the Battle Frontiers with the 7 Brains. I wish we got to see their redesigns for ORAS but no Battle Frontiers.
But, I do like Zinnah and the Megas.
The ORAS made me appreciate more than DBSP many ways even for me who hasn’t play many mainline Pokemon I can tell the difference between the two remake games like day n night
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We’ve got so much in common yet so much NOT in common
My ultimate Pokémon game would be: Best of Emerald + Best of ORAS + HD-2D art style
I also love both for differing reasons but I ultimately have to go with Emerald due to the sheer amount of content that appeals to me specifically (and I prefer sprite mon games as far as aesthetics go). I think the real interesting conversation is what is the definitive Kanto experience because although I choose FRLG I actually see quite a bit of people choose LGPE due to things like phys/special split and graphics etc.
If I had to guess, the developers totally had plans for a DLC on Pokemon ORAS. adding the Battle Frontier, Rematches to gym leaders, and maybe some more side content. but someone at GF said. screw it, we need to add more Pokemon content for merchs ASAP. I truly believe it, because if this isn't the case, adding the Battle Frontier miniature is just a big middle finger for the fans, and I really hope the developers wouldn't be a bunch of jerks, at least I don't expect this to be the case back in 2014. So, they killed 6th gen sooner, and rushed the release of 7th gen, making the Alola games, well... what we have nowadays. The 6th and 7th gen were way too short IMO, if for one hand I think it sucks because I did like 6th gen a lot, on the other hand it was good because I didn't care for 7th gen, at all.
Good video, btw!
If you don’t want outdated mechanics, care about character development, enjoy Pokémon collecting, and want a more visually appealing and intricate game with advancement’s in training, catching and traversing the region get ORAS. Only thing Emerald has going for it is story and postgame content. Since story combines both legendaries into one game it’s feels more complete. The battle frontier actually gives incentive to train Pokémon and use an actual competent team to get into the nitty gritty of Pokémon battles. There is not reason to rank any Pokémon main story based on difficultly because the games aren’t hard enough to warrant actual strategy. That was why the battle frontier was so special for ingame content.I personally prefer Emerald because I like postgame content where I can pour hundred of hours but being objective ORAS is the definitive version.
Nintendo is holding off for the true Hoenn experience
Alright, but I'm more interested in what is the definitive Alola game, given that Sun/Moon has the better story whereas UltraSun/UltraMoon has more content
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It’s Emerald for me, but the megas they introduced in ORAS were wicked
ORAS should be the definitive Hoenn game, but it's Emerald.
ORAS did not rebalance itself around the Gen 6 experience changes and if you, like me, like to take your time with it, it gets out of control very quickly.
In my recent playthrough of Omega Ruby, I spent several days picking berries while rebattling all of the trainers I walked by and encountering most Dexnav Pokemon. I caught all Dexnav encounters I didn't have and caught more when they had a rare ability or move. This is the intended way to interact with these mechanics.
But the EXP Share changes more than triple the EXP you gain, you also gain EXP from catching Pokemon. Trainer rematches are more than triple the odds of being triggered than the original, which means you gain more experience from this. Dexnav often increases the level of the Pokemon vs wild Pokemon in the area.
Don't get me wrong, I love these changes, but the game doesn't balance around them. I had a Level 100 Pokemon entering the Elite Four for the first time and the Elite Four levels are barely raised.
Life is so terrible as a Galar fan and saying Galar region was the first ever Pokemon region I played in......
Welcome back, gamer
hey gireum, would love to see you cover the gamecube games xd gale of darkness and colosseum in a video. keep up le epic content
I am playing through both Emerald and Omega Ruby because I love Emerald and ORAS was the only modren remake I like so I can FEEL the differences between the two, especially when it came to gym battles. There were numerous times in Emerald where I was basically getting legitimately scared because these gym leaders really make you put in the work whereas omega Ruby it's just a total joke. Though on the one hand I do like the expanded world building for the characters in the remake since that's what you're supposed to do you're supposed to expand upon the characters if you give us a remake. I would definitely say that Emerald has a stronger grip when compared to the remake but that doesn't mean the remakes are bad because once again I still would rather play them Then say a lot of the modern games and especially after the modern remakes in quotations of diamond and pearl.
Boy are you lucky you clarified that these are your opinions
honewtly, luminescent platinum is the definitive sinnoh experience
Fire Red/Leaf Green ??? Yellow
Heart Gold/Soul Silver > Crystal
Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire = Emerald
Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl < Platinum
Hi, Gireum!
How was the six hour martial law the other day?
I live in South Korea. Most of us were asleep throughout the whole thing.
@@MarvinPowell1 fair enough. what was the zeitgeist when you woke up?
@@pancakingon
We all still had work and school that day, so it barely felt like anything happened. Watching it on the news, it felt like some movie in an alternate reality or something.
@@MarvinPowell1 ah thats interesting
Right after your home country gets an attempted coup. You have my respect
I hope you do a What is the Definitive Sinnoh Game? video. That would be fun too.
Platinum
You want a more fleshed out story, characters and cinimatics, play ORAS
You want a more challenging game with more post game content, play Emerald
ORAS will always be inferior to me because of the various roadblocks they added when previously you could outright skip certain gyms and catch some Pokémon and get items early.
Also you can't see the abandoned ship when traveling on Mr.Briney's boat! That Is unforgivable...
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I like both. I treat them as difference game in difference universes.
Emerald seaglass