Nicely done, Heather. You've very objectively addressed what could otherwise have been a tricky assessment to make. I really like how both Godox and Aputure have paid detailed attention to content creators needs, particularly keeping the costs low at the same time.
They both have done a good job, I agree! Each one is meeting needs we all have. :) Just comes down to the person buying and what they find value in Hope it was a help to you!
I'm greatly in love with how exceptionally fair and non-biased this review was....covering a lot of important points, as well. Thanks for the excellent review.
Really needed this video since the Amaran 60D doesn't have a lot of review videos yet for now, let alone a comparison video with other brands' lights. Thanks for the quick, clear, & insightful review on both of these lights, definitely helped me a lot!
Great video, Heather! I watched your review of the ML60 months ago and made a purchase back then. Still in love with this light and I use them all the time as a fill light for my work. As a videographer, the ultra-silent fan is a deal-breaker for me!
Heather... HEATHERRRRRRR!!!!!! Thank you sooo much for this comparison. I've been racking my brain to see which would be a better feel and fit for me... when I'm able to get one. You always have amazing videos. And your lighting is on point. Snap!!!!!!
Seems a little silly to fault the aputure for the case when the $100 you save could easily buy any better case you want that fits your particular arrangement of lights. Frankly I'm super happy that amarans dont come with carrying cases since my office was full of useless empty single-light cases that are pointless if you ever carry more than one light since its so much more efficient to carry several lights in a 3-light rolling light case that carrys several lights and modifiers and stands when going on location. Single light cases are only useful for renting out single lights in my opinion since there seem to be almost zero other use cases where carrying one small light in one small case makes sense for an owner/operator transporting their own gear unless you really only own and operate one small light which is rarely the case I find.
Good points :D I agree, I find many cases annoying around the office. And I also use a giant case for my needs. But not everyone is like me so that's why I covered that point in the video.
I'm personally going with the Amaran 60d. Having used the Godox SL60w for the past year as a budget keylight, I think the price point and overall aesthetic of the Amaran fits everything I could ask for, especially if you don't have NP Fz100 batteries and are thinking of purchasing them. Also as a prospect for posterity within the Aputure family it appeases my ocd of having different brands :)
I was JUST hoping that someone would do this comparison. So much obsessing about Amaran and Aputure that everyone is acting this these are a new concept. I love the Godox light and bought it after seeing your review. This size and form factor AND the proprietary mount make it a clear winner. The Godox softboxes are the most portable ones around thanks to the narrow mount.
NOTES: The light was measured with the same reflector bowens mount dish (not the one that comes with the Amarans), from the same distance of 1m, for all the lights.
Is the Godox ML60 having app control a recent update? I bought mine about a year ago to use as a rim/hair light in my studio setup. I bought the remote separately as I have it mounted 9' up or so and it was a pain to get to to turn on.
Good point, I forgot to mention that the ML60 I don't think is yet able to be controlled from a remote. Last I checked anyway, which was a few months back. So it might still just be the remote. Not sure if the ones being shipped now have app control or not.
2 года назад
so, do you think that the brightness, is the same, or amaran is more powerful?
Nice! I like silent as well! Although the price on the amaran is tempting, haha! :D Godox also has the UL60, if you haden't seen it yet, its a totally fanless light. I have it and their UL150, which I think is far better for a fanless light.
@@FellowFilmmaker Just wondering if the Amaram COB 100X is just as noisy (if at all) as the 60X? It's just 30 bucks more than the 60X, but seems to have a more powerful output.
That one in particular I don't have. I do have the 200d and the fans are louder for sure. I prefer the 60d/x to the 200d for fan noise. In fact I switched out the 200d with the 60d for my keylight in my talking head setup because of the fan noise alone.
You answered all my questions. Thank you! I still live the ML60, I just see areas where the Amaran with the Bowens mount is less hassle. I but I could see using both together
Agreed, the bowens included is just one less step. But, I will say from my experience, I just keep the Godox bowens adapter on the light at all times and it stays out of the way when I'm not using it and when I need it, its there. So, no big deal! :D
Thanks fornthat video been looking to see what one I want to get, you made it much more easier for me to choose nice and sweet video thanks and also now I will be watching your channel 😀 👍
Thanks for the very clear and simple review! I am eagerly waiting for my ML60Bi to be delivered with lantern soft box. Worth mentioning for a fair pricing comparison is that the ML60 comes with 2 batteries included in the standard package, while the Amaran 60 does not come with batteries standard included.
Thanks for the videos. I was looking at the ML 60bi until I saw the v mount on the 60x. I have some Vbatteries laying around I never use. This completely made me change my mind on which to buy. I’m a wedding photographer who wants to move into hybrid shooting and these could make our life so much better for both indoor videos and stills.
It's nice to know the only draw-back on the Amaran is the sorry case. That can be easily remedied with a 3rd party case. Where maximum, quality light output for the buck is most important for me, the Amaran light will be my next purchase. Since both fan sound tests were done with a +12 db bump I can't imagine the Amaran is much louder than the Godox. Also, I like the standard Bowens mount on the Amaran making it immediately compatible with my light modifiers. Great video as always.
Agreed! The fan is not really an issue at all. Godox ML60 is totally silent with fans on, Aputure just a lil tiny breeze :) Happy you know which you'll go with :D
Thanks for the video! Brief, clear while being thorough! The big question for me personally is: going daylight and using gels accordingly or bicolour lights? More output and less flexibility or less output with flexibility but potentially some colour reproduction errors with time and wear of the electronics/LEDs? I'd like to start filming in my home studio some personal product video projects and I don't need to go to clients' places as I don't work as a professional anymore. So probably I don't need the extra flexibility and I could get some CTO gels to create split tones effect with just 10-15£. My idea is to purchase a 3 light kit to cover a key light, fill and background lighting. My choice right now is: Aputure Amaran 200d, 100d (x2) or 200d, 100d and a 60d, all of this are available for immediate delivery. Available there are also 200x, 100x although the 60x has a lead time of 4-6 weeks. Price difference: 200d+100d+100d = 704£, 672£ with the 60d instead of one 100d 200x+100x+100x = 857£, 806£ with a 60x instead of a 100x Not sure if the full bicolour set would be a waste of money and if I won't be using the flexibility given by adjustable CCT. Any help will be much appreciated! Thank you :)
Bicolor is great for a backlight I think. As a keylight, I personally don't use it too much, but it can look great on certain skin tones. :D It's totally up to you what you want to do. Having one bicolor is fine, having more is not always necessary
Great review! I have the ML60 and very happy with it but thinking about selling my Amaran 100d and getting the 60x as a bicolor option. The 100d is expendable since I already have a Godox VL150. What's great is both these companies are showing interest in creating budget priced options for content creators.
Owning both of these lights and scaling down my workflow to a smaller more portable setup. I have to say price to performance the 60d (not the W as I’ll never need color temperature adjustment and it just doesn’t have enough output) is a fantastic product for not only small and portable setups but proper studio applications. Used wisely you can buy 4-5 and make a very compact, slim and stylistic scene. That’s my 2 cents.
I like what you say and I like the Amaran COB 60D very much. However, my concern is that shooting video with 5 of these lights may produce too much ambience sound coming from the fans of so many 60D lights. What do you think? One or two lights may not be a problem but shooting dialogue with 4 or 5 of these beauties is a concern for audio, right? (And i know that ambient audio could be minimized in post).
@@TelevisionCrews honestly I’ve never picked up audible fan noise from any of these even on full power for hours. The fan’s extremely quiet and my microphones for dialogue are very directional so placed appropriately you’re fine. And with lav mics you really shouldn’t need to crank the gain up if placed right so no issues there. I find the only issues I ever have in interviews or whatever is in office buildings when others are walking throughout shutting doors, talking, random bullshit. I’ve never had an issue with fan noise on any light I’ve owned, blown away (ha) how many people complain about it. Anyway you’d probably be better off with a 150w-300w ish keylight with a larger body if you’re worried about noise. Strictly because the heatsink that the led cob light sits on is much much much larger and the frames are also usually built out of some sort of heat sinking material (aluminum) so the bigger lights are basically giant heatsinks and can withstand higher heat without needed to kick the fans on at all or atleast very low. The amaran is absolutely tiny, and I tore down one completely, the construction is perfectly fine and quality but it is cheap and the housing is also plastic and as you can imagine the heatsink is very small but it’s a low wattage led. Anyway blah blah blah I still grab these over any lights I own if I’m on the go. So small, so easy and I can fit 4 in a relatively small pelican case with super slim stands and yeah it’s just a breeze. Be careful with large modifiers though. Super large softboxes and front heavy modifiers are just a little sketchy on this little baby body. That being said I haven’t broken one yet and used some questionable attachments… Good luck man 🤙🏻
I know this response wasn’t for me, but I greatly appreciate the detail you gave. As someone who is just starting out in filmmaking, I was really worried about the fan noise during dialogue scenes so this helped a lot. I guess I will just use the money I’m saving to get a quality Mic, that’s directional. If you don’t mind me asking, what size soft box would you recommend as a maximum? Since it being a plastic body, it makes me wonder how long the Bowen mount will last.
A good video. One critique I can offer is the portability section. When I do an outdoor shoot I repact everything into more portable cases/backpacks anyway. So a carrycase should not be a deciding factor, in my mind as to portability, rather focus on ease of use. Which one is easier and faster to set up as well as which is more durable for outdoor use. As well as which is lighter and compacter, ie easier to carry around while set up because for outdoor setups you cannot always rely on a light stand, but need an assi or need to even hold it yourself.
Could you update the comparison with the new Godox ML60II Bi LED Video Light ? vs Amaran 60x! They seem a better fight in terms of price, size... I wonder about the fan noise. Is the new Godox still inaudible like the old one? Thank you! Subscribed!
First of all, congrats on all work Heather, great channel!. This has nothing to do with this video, but I just the Godox S60, and it's a pretty interesting and powerful little light, I think you should get it for a review (it has very few reviews on youtube), it's really a nice step up from the S30 in various ways, my only big criticism is that it doesn't come with a case at all!! (even though it's more expensive -at least at retail price- than the ML60!). Would love to see/hear you thoughts on the S60. All the best from Chile.
This is the comparison I needed! Thinking I'm going to sell my big bright Godox SL 150 (daylight) in exchange for a smaller bi-color, or two. Because I haven't been using the FULL POWER of my 150, and sticking gels in a soft-box is a crinkly hassle. BTW any tips or demo of how best to attach color gels in Bowen's mount soft-box might be enlightening. I had to cut a slit to fit a big sheet of CTO around the center pole of my octagonal Godox soft-box.
Happy this video was a help! :D And bi-color is really helpful to have in a light, I really enjoy it! I'll have to work out and try some techniques and get back to you on that one! :D Stay tuned tho
Seems like both the Godox models come with the nice handle bonus too while the Aputure looks separate purchase. I placed an order for the Aputure one earlier but might entertain grabbing the Godox one to compare. Do y’all feel the Godox included handle a worthy selling point or is the handle quality low not worth feature comparison? Also Sidus app is a big win for me over Godox app lol however that Godox does have a nice actual useable travel case. So many pros and cons lol
I do like the handle Godox has, its quite comfortable and when paired with the battery plate it already comes with its a great light you can hold, put on a light stand, or place on the ground. Got a whole video on the channel covering the ML's more indepthly. :D And yes, pros and cons to both!
Modifiers seems important here too, with godox being able to use both its smaller softboxes plus larger bowens via an adaptor while the amaran is only bowens and max size depends on its mount strength. Moot point if it’s shot thru diffusion though
A native bowens mount means you can carry less, more portable, I think it is a super pro compare with any unthoughtful mount, especially, converter cost addtional to buy.
@@yixie1249 agreed if you’re in the bowens system , although I did pick up some godox mount softboxes and overall it’s much more compact if you’re a single operator run and gun filmmaker.
@@yixie1249 Yeah but if the name of the game is portability the Godox wins here. Having used the godox mount On speedlights like the ad300 or 400 for awhile now and they are so much slimmer and compact that they fit into some of my camera bags or where I would put my tripod.
The fact that the Amaran 60D can only have a small light softbox is full of baloney. I have been using large softboxes in that little light without any problem and without additional support brackets. I don't know who started that thought but I am sure it was someone who really did not endup using that light.
I think I will go for Amaran just because of the problems I've had with Godox support in the past. The batteries died multiple times and I never got any reply on my email. One battery even started swelling up, so I almost couldn't get it out of the flash.
Great video! How much of a difference in fan noise between the lights at something like 2-5 ft from a shotgun or lav mic (more real world/interview situation)?
Godox would be unnoticeable and I'd say Amaran would be as well :D Both do great You do risk Amaran maybe being in the audio a bit if the room is not treated well at all
Great video. Question. @0:55, that battery handle grip, can that be used with the Amaran COB 60x as well? Amaran shows a "v-mount battery handle" in their COB 60x promotional video, but I can't find it anywhere.... It's like it doesn't actually exist... Thanks!
Don't believe it would because it has 'special' locking pins that are different in size and distance than the ones on the amaran
2 года назад
Hi, thanks a lot for your comparison. I am wondering which one fit the best to my needs. Very surprised that Aputure is cheaper than Godox for these COB. In France, i found various prices for Amaran 60x (same price as Godox on Amazon...). Weird ! Portability is a key aspect for me.
Hey, this was just what I was looking for! I have two ML60s with lanterns in opposite corners of my studio to sort of emulate daylight. I've been contemplating selling them and getting the Amarans instead. Mainly because most of my lights are aputure and I'd love to just use one app for all lights. Your comments about the fan noise threw me off. They are definitely louder in your recording. How noticeable would you say it is irl? I intend to keep those lights on most of the day.
It will be nice to see the Godox SL60W and the Amaran 60d compared(using the same reflector on both since the one that comes with the 60d is not the best)
Appreciate that! :D I like to pick ones that are a little more chill and maybe sometimes epic :) For outside, I've found you need a bit to compete with the sun (direct sunlight) I've done a 200w light on an overcast day and it struggled to keep up (with a softbox on it) So, likely need at least 300w 600w is better to compete well with direct sunlight. If you're in the shade then 200-300w is pretty good. You can certainly use a 60w but really only at dusk, dawn, or night scenes. It'll not be so amazing during the rest of the day unless you have it super close with little to no diffusion. Brandon Li has a helpful video with the ML60's in daytime situations that'll show you what that can look like.
Hi - thanks - very helpful review. Could you recommend a battery powered turntable for product and food video - plus a lightweight small stand to go with these lights.
How do either of these compare to the Nanlite Forza 60B? I'm a graphic designer specializing in book covers and editorial illustration. I make things and need a small light setup to shoot usually on a table. One of the things that jumps out about the Nanlite is it has a 330 degree rotation angle.
Just bought the ml60 last week... Glad to know that I've made a good choice ! One thing though, if you need an umbrella you can't go without the handle... That's gonna put the light a foot higher than normal. I'm thinking if making a 3D adaptor to stick the umbrella closer and using a ballhead instead of the handle... is it a good idea?
Good point, both Amaran and Godox have the umbrella mount on the handles. I'm sure you can rig up something that suits your needs best, so give it a go if you like! :D
If you have a look around for a mounting adapter for the Godox AD200Pro it will work perfectly with the ML60, has an umbrella hole and is nice and compact - very handy cross-compatibility!
The mounts are a moot point since neither by themselves can use large accessories without some help. The S2 bracket for the Godox and some sort of clamp for the Amaran. Having a built-in Bowens doesn't do much good if it can only handle smaller items hanging off of it. I've seen people complain about having to also bring the S2 but I just leave them attached to the modifiers and all mine fit inside their storage bags with it attached just fine. Since the AD100s and 200s also fit in the S2 it just makes sense to always have it attached to the softbox anyway. I don't think either is right or wrong, just depends what you want. If you have one light the bag of the ML60 is great. But I do want a few Amarans for cheap extra lighting where I don't need complex modifiers and I'll be sticking them all in one big travel bag anyway. Get both!
I love the Godox ML60. I would need tungsten balanced light for 90% of the shooting I do which are 3 hour long continuous shooting sessions. I did find some wedding filmmakers using the ML60W with gels. I am confused about getting the BI vs W version (with gels). What would you recommend ?
Thanks for the video! I want to buy the Amaran 60x, but I've heard that it has battery issues -- apparently the light output will dim (or even completely turn off) in accordance with lowering battery percentage. Have you run into this issue?
Hmm I haven't been in that situation myself, so I can't say for certain if it does. You could use larger NPF, the 950's, or you could always use a v-mount battery. I've done the v-mount and it lasts for a really long time
Are the NP-F batteries that you recommend for the amaran? Im using a NP-F960 from Powerextra, and they shut off every 15-20mins. Also tried Wasabi and other brands. But still persistent on two Amaran 60d lights.
Have you firmware upgraded the lights? The lights in general had issues with third party batteries, their firmware upgrade is supposed to help with that.
saw a video showing the hotspot in the Amaran 60 with the reflector sent with it, did you see that when you tested it and does the Godox have a hotspot
I'd not compare a COB light to a panel light because they are different in their applications. Both are great however. I like a COB light over a panel light because there is more control over the light with all the bowens accessories out there. A panel has its time and place too, but I use them less often. I might just make a video covering this tho, since I do get asked often. So stay tuned!
And the fact that I find the Amaran ‘cute’ does that qualify? More seriously both seem great but on the Godox if you add the bowen adapter, the remote etc, maybe you are close to the price point of more powerful models? At least for me where portability is a plus but not a key requirement.
Great video, thank for all the details. I’m in a strange dilemma since the godox ml60bi costs 50$ less (150$) than the amaran 60x (200$). So in a case like this would choosing the ml60bi be the right decision since the amaran’s price isn’t an advantage anymore ? Keeping in mind I’ve never bought COB lights before
I think both of them are great. I love the ML series because they are more silent than the amarans. But I do like the amaran's too. So you can't go wrong really, either would be a good purchase :D
Could you tell me if this light will turn on, when it is provided with power? I would like to switch it in a smart home setting. And if this works, will it turn on with the same intensity when it was last turned off. Thanks for your feedback in advance!
Appreciate the fan noice comparison. Would you happen to have checked: 1. Is 60d fan noise picked up when using a lav mic? 2. Is 60d fan noise picked up when using overhead boom mic?
I did not check the lav mic, but I've been using the 60d for my keylight 3-4ft from me for all my videos and haven't noticed it. I was using the amaran 200d prior in the same situation and that one I could hear in boom mic.
Greetings from Malaysia. 1) Have you tested which lasts longer with the NPF batteries? 2) I"ll be using these lights for cooking demos and interviews. Do you think that the fan noise will be picked up by the Amaran placed say 4 feet away from the subject? Thank you.
I can't really test NPF's because all of them are different from each other, so the results would be irrelevant for most everyone. In general I've found them both to be fair, but Godox was handling a bit better. And yes I'd say that distance would be fine :D
Yeah I think so, you have to 'activate' power first. I also noticed that if you use the remote to turn the light off and go to turn it back on with the remote hours later the light will have shut off 'for good' and you'll have to go hit the power button on the light again. Not sure why, but I did notice it.
Will the Amaran fit the Godox Projector unit? the LED looks like it sticks out quite far and I'm considering these two lights, but for both video and photo work and I use that Godox projector all the time for stills
I find them both great to be honest. Technically you'll get a bit more brightness out of the daylight only. The bicolor is more useful in the sense you can get more creative with color contrasts due to it being bi-color
Haha, I was aiming to keep it short and simple! I had a much longer version planned, but scrapped it when I realized people just want simple answers. :D
I don't typically do photography, no But they both are great and I use them for keylights and backlights for my thumbnails and other such needs and they work great
First of all thank you so much for doing this. My use for the lights is gonna be studio product videos, podcasts, client interviews, and creating content for businesses. So thinking of buying 2 or 3 of them. I have been using godox photography lights for many years now (AD200Pro and AD400Pro) and I love them. ( I have a lots of bowens mount modifiers). Compared to photography I am very new to videography. Should I go with Godox SL60 II Bi or Godox ML 60 Bi as my first continuous lights? I will appreciate the help. P.S. I got totally confused after reading your reply in one of the comments that theres other models (UL60, UL150) lol
There are many Godox models out there :D If you're looking to stay with Godox and want a good continuous light that does you well, you might consider something near a 200w light. So the Godox UL150ii would be good or I hear the SL200bi is good as well. I myself have shifted a bit and use Aputure more at times, as I like their system. So you could always look at theirs as well
Nice review. Has Godox improved their app? An app shootout beween Godox, Aputure, and some others would be great. For studio use, both look fine, but if carrying them to shoots, would go with Aputure Lightstorm 60 series. They have sturdier metal construction, quiet fans, and truly rugged cases. They're on sale now for a bit over $300. That Godox case looks almost exactly like the great cases Aputure ships with their other (more expensive) lights. The Amaran 60d case doesn't look like it would hold up well over time, is it just Styrofoam?
Their app is great. I have two Godox ML60Bi’s and they respond quickly via Bluetooth. The app lets you dial power and color temp, plus let’s you create groups and name them.
I like the Sidus Link app a bit more than the Godox one. But the Godox one is good and clean. Much better than some I've used from lesser known brands. And yes, the case is made out of a foam-like material. Same as you'd find on a Ronin S or something of similar nature. :D
The Godox app works with many of their lights. I've got tube lights, COB RGB, panels, etc and pretty much all of them work with their app I do like Sidus Link a bit more, just because its a bit more pro feeling, but the Godox app is useable and useful when needed
@@FellowFilmmaker Thank you very much for your reply. We are getting the VL150 for events. And probably this guy for indoor stuff. All thanks to your reviews.
Hey another question again. So I have the litter brother of this and what I seem to find is that with a diffuser and grid the light doesn't seem powerful enough. This is for the godox ml30bi. I use it at work and always have to turn up my iso to get good exposure even when the light is on max power. I know bi color lights have less power than straight up daylight ones, but is this normal? thinking of investing in smallrig, or amaran 200bi lights or something.
Yeah 30w isn't that much. I'd recommend a minimum of 60w as a keylight in most situations where you don't compete with sunlight. If you are competing with sunlight then you'll want 200 - 300w as a keylight.
Hey, I started following you when you had 1000 followers Keep up the good work😀 About Godox ML 60, I read Amazon review about decrease of power output after several uses. Do you have same problem?
Companies that decide to buck a widely-adopted method of attaching accessories by slapping on a proprietary mount and selling you an adaptor always feels like a punch to the gut. The Godox, even being more expensive, seems like a solid winner, but having to buy a separate adapter just to use any modifiers I already have? It's hard for me to see a reason for that choice beyond trying to hoover up more of their customers' money.
I can see how you feel. But in this case, it was a move that makes some sense (took me experience to learn this). The light is so small that putting heavy modifiers on it risk damaging the mount or even the light itself. Having the adapter take the weight is smarter because it can handle bigger modifiers without risk of damage. I know alot of folks complained to me that they had issues with the Amaran because it can't handle big modifiers. So, in the end, $25 isn't all to bad for keeping your light intact! :D But I feel ya, most companies do make that move and it seems silly
Bi-color can be nice if you ever want to match to another light source or if you like to play with separation of a subject using varied temps. Also, it's great if you have various skin tones you're working with. Both are great indoors if you are not combating with sunlight streaming into the space
Interesting conclusion considering the price difference, pretty sure you can buy a much nicer case of your choosing, batteries and still have money in your pocket...
Nicely done, Heather. You've very objectively addressed what could otherwise have been a tricky assessment to make. I really like how both Godox and Aputure have paid detailed attention to content creators needs, particularly keeping the costs low at the same time.
They both have done a good job, I agree! Each one is meeting needs we all have. :) Just comes down to the person buying and what they find value in
Hope it was a help to you!
I'm greatly in love with how exceptionally fair and non-biased this review was....covering a lot of important points, as well.
Thanks for the excellent review.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really needed this video since the Amaran 60D doesn't have a lot of review videos yet for now, let alone a comparison video with other brands' lights. Thanks for the quick, clear, & insightful review on both of these lights, definitely helped me a lot!
Happy to hear it was helpful! If you need to know more on the Godox lights I've got plenty of videos on the channel about them :D
Great video, Heather! I watched your review of the ML60 months ago and made a purchase back then. Still in love with this light and I use them all the time as a fill light for my work. As a videographer, the ultra-silent fan is a deal-breaker for me!
So happy to hear that! I've been so happy with my ML60's as well, they get used literally all the time. :D
Deal breaker on the Amaran or Godox light?
@@_HMCB_ lol
Heather... HEATHERRRRRRR!!!!!! Thank you sooo much for this comparison. I've been racking my brain to see which would be a better feel and fit for me... when I'm able to get one. You always have amazing videos. And your lighting is on point. Snap!!!!!!
Glad it was helpful! Great to see you happy with it! :D
YES! This is exactly what I was hoping for. You’re the best!
Awesome! So glad it was what you needed!
THANK YOU!!!! I’ve literally been waiting for this video and got so excited when I saw you made it. Perfect comparison video, as always!
So happy to hear that! :D Are you watching the aputure live event right now about them?
@@FellowFilmmaker - Oh dang, I didn't know about this. I guess I will catch the replay. I would imagine it will be on their webpage for the light?
I think so? You can find it on their youtube channel as well
Seems a little silly to fault the aputure for the case when the $100 you save could easily buy any better case you want that fits your particular arrangement of lights. Frankly I'm super happy that amarans dont come with carrying cases since my office was full of useless empty single-light cases that are pointless if you ever carry more than one light since its so much more efficient to carry several lights in a 3-light rolling light case that carrys several lights and modifiers and stands when going on location. Single light cases are only useful for renting out single lights in my opinion since there seem to be almost zero other use cases where carrying one small light in one small case makes sense for an owner/operator transporting their own gear unless you really only own and operate one small light which is rarely the case I find.
Good points :D I agree, I find many cases annoying around the office. And I also use a giant case for my needs. But not everyone is like me so that's why I covered that point in the video.
I'm personally going with the Amaran 60d. Having used the Godox SL60w for the past year as a budget keylight, I think the price point and overall aesthetic of the Amaran fits everything I could ask for, especially if you don't have NP Fz100 batteries and are thinking of purchasing them. Also as a prospect for posterity within the Aputure family it appeases my ocd of having different brands :)
Happy for you! Its a great light, so I'm glad it'll work for your system. :D Gotta love when a brand works a good product with a good price point
I was JUST hoping that someone would do this comparison. So much obsessing about Amaran and Aputure that everyone is acting this these are a new concept. I love the Godox light and bought it after seeing your review. This size and form factor AND the proprietary mount make it a clear winner. The Godox softboxes are the most portable ones around thanks to the narrow mount.
Happy to hear you love the ML! It is a great light :D
NOTES:
The light was measured with the same reflector bowens mount dish (not the one that comes with the Amarans), from the same distance of 1m, for all the lights.
Is the Godox ML60 having app control a recent update? I bought mine about a year ago to use as a rim/hair light in my studio setup. I bought the remote separately as I have it mounted 9' up or so and it was a pain to get to to turn on.
Good point, I forgot to mention that the ML60 I don't think is yet able to be controlled from a remote. Last I checked anyway, which was a few months back. So it might still just be the remote. Not sure if the ones being shipped now have app control or not.
so, do you think that the brightness, is the same, or amaran is more powerful?
Did you have the same hot spot like the original reflector gives on the Amaran? And what reflector was it that you used?
Was looking review of godox lights and came here. Later was watching Mr. Caleb 🙂 who mentioned you. Im here to stay. Thnx.
Happy to hear that! :D I was surprised to see Caleb mention me, haha! Glad to have you here.
Thanks a lot for this comparison! I would go with the Godox, because of the ultra silent fan and the portability.
Nice! I like silent as well! Although the price on the amaran is tempting, haha! :D
Godox also has the UL60, if you haden't seen it yet, its a totally fanless light. I have it and their UL150, which I think is far better for a fanless light.
@@FellowFilmmaker Just wondering if the Amaram COB 100X is just as noisy (if at all) as the 60X? It's just 30 bucks more than the 60X, but seems to have a more powerful output.
That one in particular I don't have. I do have the 200d and the fans are louder for sure. I prefer the 60d/x to the 200d for fan noise. In fact I switched out the 200d with the 60d for my keylight in my talking head setup because of the fan noise alone.
Very nice videos, straight to the point! Well done 👌 Keep it up!
Thank you very much!
thanks, this is the comparison I thought of when I saw the Amaran 60d
Haha, me too! I figured folks would want to know
Short and very much to the point, great buyer advice. Thanks! :-)
Glad it was helpful! Didn't want to drag on and on, so I'm glad you appreciated that.
You answered all my questions. Thank you! I still live the ML60, I just see areas where the Amaran with the Bowens mount is less hassle. I but I could see using both together
Agreed, the bowens included is just one less step. But, I will say from my experience, I just keep the Godox bowens adapter on the light at all times and it stays out of the way when I'm not using it and when I need it, its there. So, no big deal! :D
@@FellowFilmmaker 💯
Thanks fornthat video been looking to see what one I want to get, you made it much more easier for me to choose nice and sweet video thanks and also now I will be watching your channel 😀 👍
Thanks happy to hear that!
woof I am glad you made this one, Super helpful 💯💯💯💯
Glad it was helpful! I knew folks were going to want to know!
Thanks for the very clear and simple review! I am eagerly waiting for my ML60Bi to be delivered with lantern soft box. Worth mentioning for a fair pricing comparison is that the ML60 comes with 2 batteries included in the standard package, while the Amaran 60 does not come with batteries standard included.
That's awesome they came with batteries in the kit you got :D I hope you love the light as much as I do
@@FellowFilmmaker my bad the batteries were actually not included… anyway really happy with the ML60Bi!
Thanks for the videos. I was looking at the ML 60bi until I saw the v mount on the 60x. I have some Vbatteries laying around I never use. This completely made me change my mind on which to buy. I’m a wedding photographer who wants to move into hybrid shooting and these could make our life so much better for both indoor videos and stills.
Glad I could help :D
Great quick to the point video 😁
Was my intent! :D
It's nice to know the only draw-back on the Amaran is the sorry case. That can be easily remedied with a 3rd party case. Where maximum, quality light output for the buck is most important for me, the Amaran light will be my next purchase. Since both fan sound tests were done with a +12 db bump I can't imagine the Amaran is much louder than the Godox. Also, I like the standard Bowens mount on the Amaran making it immediately compatible with my light modifiers. Great video as always.
Agreed! The fan is not really an issue at all. Godox ML60 is totally silent with fans on, Aputure just a lil tiny breeze :)
Happy you know which you'll go with :D
Thanks for the video! Brief, clear while being thorough!
The big question for me personally is: going daylight and using gels accordingly or bicolour lights?
More output and less flexibility or less output with flexibility but potentially some colour reproduction errors with time and wear of the electronics/LEDs?
I'd like to start filming in my home studio some personal product video projects and I don't need to go to clients' places as I don't work as a professional anymore.
So probably I don't need the extra flexibility and I could get some CTO gels to create split tones effect with just 10-15£.
My idea is to purchase a 3 light kit to cover a key light, fill and background lighting.
My choice right now is: Aputure Amaran 200d, 100d (x2) or 200d, 100d and a 60d, all of this are available for immediate delivery.
Available there are also 200x, 100x although the 60x has a lead time of 4-6 weeks.
Price difference:
200d+100d+100d = 704£, 672£ with the 60d instead of one 100d
200x+100x+100x = 857£, 806£ with a 60x instead of a 100x
Not sure if the full bicolour set would be a waste of money and if I won't be using the flexibility given by adjustable CCT.
Any help will be much appreciated! Thank you :)
Bicolor is great for a backlight I think. As a keylight, I personally don't use it too much, but it can look great on certain skin tones. :D
It's totally up to you what you want to do. Having one bicolor is fine, having more is not always necessary
Love your reviews!! Thank you! Loving my Amran 200D, but I kinda want to buy this as well 😂
Happy you love your 200d! I've got one as well and it's pretty nice!
Straight to the point..my kind of video. Thanks
Most welcome :D
Hearing you say either purchase is a good choice helps with the anxiety 😮💨
Glad I could help with that :D They really are both great
Perfect review comparison 👍. Ty!
Happy to hear, thanks for watching!
Great review! I have the ML60 and very happy with it but thinking about selling my Amaran 100d and getting the 60x as a bicolor option. The 100d is expendable since I already have a Godox VL150. What's great is both these companies are showing interest in creating budget priced options for content creators.
Its true, brands competing make it nicer on the buyer, haha!
I really appreciate your videos, thanks!
Happy to hear that!
Great video as always!! 👌👌
Thank you very much! :D
Owning both of these lights and scaling down my workflow to a smaller more portable setup. I have to say price to performance the 60d (not the W as I’ll never need color temperature adjustment and it just doesn’t have enough output) is a fantastic product for not only small and portable setups but proper studio applications. Used wisely you can buy 4-5 and make a very compact, slim and stylistic scene. That’s my 2 cents.
Good 2 cents :D
I agree, smaller lights are helpful for sure
I like what you say and I like the Amaran COB 60D very much. However, my concern is that shooting video with 5 of these lights may produce too much ambience sound coming from the fans of so many 60D lights. What do you think?
One or two lights may not be a problem but shooting dialogue with 4 or 5 of these beauties is a concern for audio, right? (And i know that ambient audio could be minimized in post).
@@TelevisionCrews honestly I’ve never picked up audible fan noise from any of these even on full power for hours. The fan’s extremely quiet and my microphones for dialogue are very directional so placed appropriately you’re fine. And with lav mics you really shouldn’t need to crank the gain up if placed right so no issues there. I find the only issues I ever have in interviews or whatever is in office buildings when others are walking throughout shutting doors, talking, random bullshit. I’ve never had an issue with fan noise on any light I’ve owned, blown away (ha) how many people complain about it.
Anyway you’d probably be better off with a 150w-300w ish keylight with a larger body if you’re worried about noise. Strictly because the heatsink that the led cob light sits on is much much much larger and the frames are also usually built out of some sort of heat sinking material (aluminum) so the bigger lights are basically giant heatsinks and can withstand higher heat without needed to kick the fans on at all or atleast very low.
The amaran is absolutely tiny, and I tore down one completely, the construction is perfectly fine and quality but it is cheap and the housing is also plastic and as you can imagine the heatsink is very small but it’s a low wattage led.
Anyway blah blah blah I still grab these over any lights I own if I’m on the go. So small, so easy and I can fit 4 in a relatively small pelican case with super slim stands and yeah it’s just a breeze. Be careful with large modifiers though. Super large softboxes and front heavy modifiers are just a little sketchy on this little baby body. That being said I haven’t broken one yet and used some questionable attachments…
Good luck man 🤙🏻
I know this response wasn’t for me, but I greatly appreciate the detail you gave. As someone who is just starting out in filmmaking, I was really worried about the fan noise during dialogue scenes so this helped a lot.
I guess I will just use the money I’m saving to get a quality Mic, that’s directional. If you don’t mind me asking, what size soft box would you recommend as a maximum? Since it being a plastic body, it makes me wonder how long the Bowen mount will last.
A good video. One critique I can offer is the portability section. When I do an outdoor shoot I repact everything into more portable cases/backpacks anyway. So a carrycase should not be a deciding factor, in my mind as to portability, rather focus on ease of use. Which one is easier and faster to set up as well as which is more durable for outdoor use. As well as which is lighter and compacter, ie easier to carry around while set up because for outdoor setups you cannot always rely on a light stand, but need an assi or need to even hold it yourself.
Good to know, thanks for sharing
I have a small studio space it’s literally a section of a bedroom. So either of these is perfect
Just what I was wanting to see!
So happy to hear that! :D Do you know if you'll get one of them? or do you have them already, haha :D
@@FellowFilmmaker I’m shooting for the 60d when it launches!
Nice! It sure is a nice price tag :D
Could you update the comparison with the new Godox ML60II Bi LED Video Light ? vs Amaran 60x!
They seem a better fight in terms of price, size... I wonder about the fan noise. Is the new Godox still inaudible like the old one?
Thank you! Subscribed!
What light you recommend for the outdoor light? For music video,?thank
First of all, congrats on all work Heather, great channel!. This has nothing to do with this video, but I just the Godox S60, and it's a pretty interesting and powerful little light, I think you should get it for a review (it has very few reviews on youtube), it's really a nice step up from the S30 in various ways, my only big criticism is that it doesn't come with a case at all!! (even though it's more expensive -at least at retail price- than the ML60!). Would love to see/hear you thoughts on the S60. All the best from Chile.
Thanks for the input! I'll have to look into that and see if its something I can do
Happy to hear you enjoy the channel!
Godsent! Thanks for the comparison
Most welcome! :D
This is the comparison I needed!
Thinking I'm going to sell my big bright Godox SL 150 (daylight) in exchange for a smaller bi-color, or two. Because I haven't been using the FULL POWER of my 150, and sticking gels in a soft-box is a crinkly hassle.
BTW any tips or demo of how best to attach color gels in Bowen's mount soft-box might be enlightening. I had to cut a slit to fit a big sheet of CTO around the center pole of my octagonal Godox soft-box.
Happy this video was a help! :D And bi-color is really helpful to have in a light, I really enjoy it!
I'll have to work out and try some techniques and get back to you on that one! :D Stay tuned tho
Seems like both the Godox models come with the nice handle bonus too while the Aputure looks separate purchase. I placed an order for the Aputure one earlier but might entertain grabbing the Godox one to compare. Do y’all feel the Godox included handle a worthy selling point or is the handle quality low not worth feature comparison?
Also Sidus app is a big win for me over Godox app lol however that Godox does have a nice actual useable travel case. So many pros and cons lol
I do like the handle Godox has, its quite comfortable and when paired with the battery plate it already comes with its a great light you can hold, put on a light stand, or place on the ground. Got a whole video on the channel covering the ML's more indepthly. :D
And yes, pros and cons to both!
Wonderful comparison!
Thank you! Hope it helped :D
Modifiers seems important here too, with godox being able to use both its smaller softboxes plus larger bowens via an adaptor while the amaran is only bowens and max size depends on its mount strength. Moot point if it’s shot thru diffusion though
Good point
I suppose either way it comes down to specific needs and use cases which someone goes with :)
A native bowens mount means you can carry less, more portable, I think it is a super pro compare with any unthoughtful mount, especially, converter cost addtional to buy.
@@yixie1249 agreed if you’re in the bowens system , although I did pick up some godox mount softboxes and overall it’s much more compact if you’re a single operator run and gun filmmaker.
@@yixie1249 Yeah but if the name of the game is portability the Godox wins here. Having used the godox mount On speedlights like the ad300 or 400 for awhile now and they are so much slimmer and compact that they fit into some of my camera bags or where I would put my tripod.
The fact that the Amaran 60D can only have a small light softbox is full of baloney. I have been using large softboxes in that little light without any problem and without additional support brackets. I don't know who started that thought but I am sure it was someone who really did not endup using that light.
They’re entirely different things but can you do a video of the 60 aputure panels vs these style lights for your usage case?
I haden't considered that, but I'll look into it! Thanks for the suggestion!
I think I will go for Amaran just because of the problems I've had with Godox support in the past. The batteries died multiple times and I never got any reply on my email. One battery even started swelling up, so I almost couldn't get it out of the flash.
Sorry to hear you've had those problems! Totally understand the going with Aputure :D They are great
Great video! How much of a difference in fan noise between the lights at something like 2-5 ft from a shotgun or lav mic (more real world/interview situation)?
Godox would be unnoticeable and I'd say Amaran would be as well :D Both do great
You do risk Amaran maybe being in the audio a bit if the room is not treated well at all
Great video. Question. @0:55, that battery handle grip, can that be used with the Amaran COB 60x as well? Amaran shows a "v-mount battery handle" in their COB 60x promotional video, but I can't find it anywhere.... It's like it doesn't actually exist... Thanks!
Don't believe it would because it has 'special' locking pins that are different in size and distance than the ones on the amaran
Hi, thanks a lot for your comparison. I am wondering which one fit the best to my needs. Very surprised that Aputure is cheaper than Godox for these COB. In France, i found various prices for Amaran 60x (same price as Godox on Amazon...). Weird ! Portability is a key aspect for me.
for sure :) Both are great purchases, just depends which you feel better getting
Hey, this was just what I was looking for! I have two ML60s with lanterns in opposite corners of my studio to sort of emulate daylight. I've been contemplating selling them and getting the Amarans instead. Mainly because most of my lights are aputure and I'd love to just use one app for all lights. Your comments about the fan noise threw me off. They are definitely louder in your recording. How noticeable would you say it is irl? I intend to keep those lights on most of the day.
They're not too bad. I've been using one for a keylight and it's not picking up in my mic which is 1m away
@@FellowFilmmaker thanks, that's helpful.
Love my new Godox ML-60 Bi. Bought it based on your review. (Are you listening, Godox?) Thank you.
Happy to hear that! :D It is a really handy little light
And who knows, maybe they are listening, haha
It will be nice to see the Godox SL60W and the Amaran 60d compared(using the same reflector on both since the one that comes with the 60d is not the best)
I didn't use the 60d reflector for the measurements in this video because I don't like it either :D
Great music selection in my opinion!
What about of output would you say is good for use outdoors (in terms of wattage)?
Appreciate that! :D I like to pick ones that are a little more chill and maybe sometimes epic :)
For outside, I've found you need a bit to compete with the sun (direct sunlight) I've done a 200w light on an overcast day and it struggled to keep up (with a softbox on it) So, likely need at least 300w 600w is better to compete well with direct sunlight. If you're in the shade then 200-300w is pretty good. You can certainly use a 60w but really only at dusk, dawn, or night scenes. It'll not be so amazing during the rest of the day unless you have it super close with little to no diffusion. Brandon Li has a helpful video with the ML60's in daytime situations that'll show you what that can look like.
Hi - thanks - very helpful review. Could you recommend a battery powered turntable for product and food video - plus a lightweight small stand to go with these lights.
I have a motorized turntable I use and small stands I like, you can find them in my kit: kit.co/fellowfilmmaker
:D
How do either of these compare to the Nanlite Forza 60B? I'm a graphic designer specializing in book covers and editorial illustration. I make things and need a small light setup to shoot usually on a table. One of the things that jumps out about the Nanlite is it has a 330 degree rotation angle.
I don't have that light, so I really can't speak to it. Maybe i'll see if I can get one to compare to
Just bought the ml60 last week... Glad to know that I've made a good choice ! One thing though, if you need an umbrella you can't go without the handle... That's gonna put the light a foot higher than normal. I'm thinking if making a 3D adaptor to stick the umbrella closer and using a ballhead instead of the handle... is it a good idea?
Good point, both Amaran and Godox have the umbrella mount on the handles.
I'm sure you can rig up something that suits your needs best, so give it a go if you like! :D
If you have a look around for a mounting adapter for the Godox AD200Pro it will work perfectly with the ML60, has an umbrella hole and is nice and compact - very handy cross-compatibility!
@@clickmedia6523 do you mean S2 speedlite bracket?
The mounts are a moot point since neither by themselves can use large accessories without some help. The S2 bracket for the Godox and some sort of clamp for the Amaran. Having a built-in Bowens doesn't do much good if it can only handle smaller items hanging off of it. I've seen people complain about having to also bring the S2 but I just leave them attached to the modifiers and all mine fit inside their storage bags with it attached just fine. Since the AD100s and 200s also fit in the S2 it just makes sense to always have it attached to the softbox anyway. I don't think either is right or wrong, just depends what you want. If you have one light the bag of the ML60 is great. But I do want a few Amarans for cheap extra lighting where I don't need complex modifiers and I'll be sticking them all in one big travel bag anyway. Get both!
For me the mounts do up to a 90cm softbox well enough, but anything higher I'd not risk it. But yes, it's a good point to make. :D
I love the Godox ML60. I would need tungsten balanced light for 90% of the shooting I do which are 3 hour long continuous shooting sessions. I did find some wedding filmmakers using the ML60W with gels. I am confused about getting the BI vs W version (with gels). What would you recommend ?
I have the bi-color and like it alot, so if you think you need that then I'd say get it.
Thanks for the video! I want to buy the Amaran 60x, but I've heard that it has battery issues -- apparently the light output will dim (or even completely turn off) in accordance with lowering battery percentage. Have you run into this issue?
Hmm I haven't been in that situation myself, so I can't say for certain if it does. You could use larger NPF, the 950's, or you could always use a v-mount battery. I've done the v-mount and it lasts for a really long time
Are the NP-F batteries that you recommend for the amaran? Im using a NP-F960 from Powerextra, and they shut off every 15-20mins. Also tried Wasabi and other brands. But still persistent on two Amaran 60d lights.
Have you firmware upgraded the lights? The lights in general had issues with third party batteries, their firmware upgrade is supposed to help with that.
I was hoping someone would make this video!
:D Haha, well glad I did then!
saw a video showing the hotspot in the Amaran 60 with the reflector sent with it, did you see that when you tested it and does the Godox have a hotspot
Yes it does have a bit hotspot for the Amaran. The Godox has not hotspot with the included reflector.
Thanks for the video! How does this compare to the new p60c / p60x? Which one would you pick and why?
I'd not compare a COB light to a panel light because they are different in their applications. Both are great however. I like a COB light over a panel light because there is more control over the light with all the bowens accessories out there. A panel has its time and place too, but I use them less often.
I might just make a video covering this tho, since I do get asked often. So stay tuned!
And the fact that I find the Amaran ‘cute’ does that qualify? More seriously both seem great but on the Godox if you add the bowen adapter, the remote etc, maybe you are close to the price point of more powerful models? At least for me where portability is a plus but not a key requirement.
Yes, the accessories do tack on a larger price tag for sure
so it sounds like you might lean to Amaran in this case :D
Great video, thank for all the details. I’m in a strange dilemma since the godox ml60bi costs 50$ less (150$) than the amaran 60x (200$). So in a case like this would choosing the ml60bi be the right decision since the amaran’s price isn’t an advantage anymore ? Keeping in mind I’ve never bought COB lights before
I think both of them are great. I love the ML series because they are more silent than the amarans. But I do like the amaran's too. So you can't go wrong really, either would be a good purchase :D
Same situation. Lots of research for my first light.
I'm not sure if this is a Godox response to the new Amaran lights, but, the ML60 is selling for about $170 where I am now.
That is awesome! In some places and on some sites I have seen it on sale, so it might be the best time to snatch one up! :D
Could you tell me if this light will turn on, when it is provided with power? I would like to switch it in a smart home setting. And if this works, will it turn on with the same intensity when it was last turned off. Thanks for your feedback in advance!
No it will not. If you want then, the aputure p60c can do that
Appreciate the fan noice comparison. Would you happen to have checked:
1. Is 60d fan noise picked up when using a lav mic?
2. Is 60d fan noise picked up when using overhead boom mic?
I did not check the lav mic, but I've been using the 60d for my keylight 3-4ft from me for all my videos and haven't noticed it. I was using the amaran 200d prior in the same situation and that one I could hear in boom mic.
Greetings from Malaysia.
1) Have you tested which lasts longer with the NPF batteries?
2) I"ll be using these lights for cooking demos and interviews. Do you think that the fan noise will be picked up by the Amaran placed say 4 feet away from the subject?
Thank you.
I can't really test NPF's because all of them are different from each other, so the results would be irrelevant for most everyone. In general I've found them both to be fair, but Godox was handling a bit better.
And yes I'd say that distance would be fine :D
@@FellowFilmmaker Thank you.
Not sure if it’s just me but the godox remote still requires you to press the button on the ML 60 before it starts working. Quite a pain.
Yeah I think so, you have to 'activate' power first. I also noticed that if you use the remote to turn the light off and go to turn it back on with the remote hours later the light will have shut off 'for good' and you'll have to go hit the power button on the light again. Not sure why, but I did notice it.
First time visitor. Now subscriber 👍🏽. Question: What’s the difference between the UL vs ML 60 Godoxes?
Welcome! I have a whole video comparing Godox's 60 watt lights, so check that one out: ruclips.net/video/IVDmG_5ric0/видео.html
@@FellowFilmmaker perfect 👍🏽. Off to view it.
Will the Amaran fit the Godox Projector unit? the LED looks like it sticks out quite far and I'm considering these two lights, but for both video and photo work and I use that Godox projector all the time for stills
Yes, it fits! :D
@@FellowFilmmaker awesome thanks so much!
Thank You
You're welcome! Hope it helped you out :D
Can you please review the Smallrig 120D/B and compare with these ? They are more powerful in the same price range..
I don't have plans to review them at this time, sorry
With saving $100 going with the aputure then it would be easy to purchase a suitable bag for traveling.
True! :D
Hi great videos, is the STD ml60 more useful over the bi as it's brighter .Thx Vasili
I find them both great to be honest. Technically you'll get a bit more brightness out of the daylight only. The bicolor is more useful in the sense you can get more creative with color contrasts due to it being bi-color
wow, a solid 100% comparison video under 5 minutes.
Haha, I was aiming to keep it short and simple! I had a much longer version planned, but scrapped it when I realized people just want simple answers. :D
Have you ever done still photography with these lights? If so which one would you recommend
I don't typically do photography, no
But they both are great and I use them for keylights and backlights for my thumbnails and other such needs and they work great
First of all thank you so much for doing this. My use for the lights is gonna be studio product videos, podcasts, client interviews, and creating content for businesses. So thinking of buying 2 or 3 of them. I have been using godox photography lights for many years now (AD200Pro and AD400Pro) and I love them. ( I have a lots of bowens mount modifiers). Compared to photography I am very new to videography. Should I go with Godox SL60 II Bi or Godox ML 60 Bi as my first continuous lights? I will appreciate the help.
P.S.
I got totally confused after reading your reply in one of the comments that theres other models (UL60, UL150) lol
There are many Godox models out there :D
If you're looking to stay with Godox and want a good continuous light that does you well, you might consider something near a 200w light. So the Godox UL150ii would be good or I hear the SL200bi is good as well. I myself have shifted a bit and use Aputure more at times, as I like their system. So you could always look at theirs as well
@@FellowFilmmaker thank you very much. I saw you’re using the Aputure 200d. I am considering amaran 200 x S Bi-color. Or maybe even 300.
Thanks.
Is the 60x (bi-colour) bright enough to light a subject with some daylight coming in through the window?
Should be :D
Thanks for de video. I'm wondering if the amaran 60d match with the Godox SA-P Projection Attachment. Thank you for all!
Yes it will work with it, I tried it :D
@@FellowFilmmaker thank you for your answer!
Nice review. Has Godox improved their app? An app shootout beween Godox, Aputure, and some others would be great.
For studio use, both look fine, but if carrying them to shoots, would go with Aputure Lightstorm 60 series. They have sturdier metal construction, quiet fans, and truly rugged cases. They're on sale now for a bit over $300.
That Godox case looks almost exactly like the great cases Aputure ships with their other (more expensive) lights. The Amaran 60d case doesn't look like it would hold up well over time, is it just Styrofoam?
Their app is great. I have two Godox ML60Bi’s and they respond quickly via Bluetooth. The app lets you dial power and color temp, plus let’s you create groups and name them.
I like the Sidus Link app a bit more than the Godox one. But the Godox one is good and clean. Much better than some I've used from lesser known brands.
And yes, the case is made out of a foam-like material. Same as you'd find on a Ronin S or something of similar nature. :D
Does the Godox App work with multiple types of lights? How do the 2 different apps match up?
The Godox app works with many of their lights. I've got tube lights, COB RGB, panels, etc and pretty much all of them work with their app
I do like Sidus Link a bit more, just because its a bit more pro feeling, but the Godox app is useable and useful when needed
@@FellowFilmmaker Thank you very much for your reply. We are getting the VL150 for events. And probably this guy for indoor stuff. All thanks to your reviews.
Happy to hear that! :D
Hey another question again. So I have the litter brother of this and what I seem to find is that with a diffuser and grid the light doesn't seem powerful enough. This is for the godox ml30bi. I use it at work and always have to turn up my iso to get good exposure even when the light is on max power. I know bi color lights have less power than straight up daylight ones, but is this normal? thinking of investing in smallrig, or amaran 200bi lights or something.
Yeah 30w isn't that much. I'd recommend a minimum of 60w as a keylight in most situations where you don't compete with sunlight. If you are competing with sunlight then you'll want 200 - 300w as a keylight.
@@FellowFilmmaker alright thanks :) never knew that the 30 after ml was the wattage.
Hey, I started following you when you had 1000 followers
Keep up the good work😀
About Godox ML 60, I read Amazon review about decrease of power output after several uses.
Do you have same problem?
Wow, that's crazy! :D
And I don't think I've noticed no. I haven't officially tested that either with a meter either.
I'm hoping this will bring down the price of the Godox ML60.
It might, who knows! I know you can find the ML on sales sometimes
What about thermals? Do they get hot after some hours of usage?
No it doesnt
Ive had them on all day and they are fine. Within normal parameters
Companies that decide to buck a widely-adopted method of attaching accessories by slapping on a proprietary mount and selling you an adaptor always feels like a punch to the gut. The Godox, even being more expensive, seems like a solid winner, but having to buy a separate adapter just to use any modifiers I already have? It's hard for me to see a reason for that choice beyond trying to hoover up more of their customers' money.
I can see how you feel. But in this case, it was a move that makes some sense (took me experience to learn this). The light is so small that putting heavy modifiers on it risk damaging the mount or even the light itself. Having the adapter take the weight is smarter because it can handle bigger modifiers without risk of damage.
I know alot of folks complained to me that they had issues with the Amaran because it can't handle big modifiers.
So, in the end, $25 isn't all to bad for keeping your light intact! :D
But I feel ya, most companies do make that move and it seems silly
What kind of light boom stand are you using there? Or recommend?
For boom I typically am using a c-stand with a grip head and grip arm setup
With either of these does using battery reduce the light output?
Not that I'm aware of? I didn't test for it, so I can't be 100%. But I haven't noticed anything
Great review. Compare to the Nanlite FOrzas!
Thanks for the suggestion :D
I need a key light. Should I get this or the 100d?
Depends on your needs. More power is better to have for when you need it. But these ones here do just fine in a controlled environment.
do i need the 60d or the 60x if im filming inside ik the 60x has warm bi colors
Bi-color can be nice if you ever want to match to another light source or if you like to play with separation of a subject using varied temps.
Also, it's great if you have various skin tones you're working with.
Both are great indoors if you are not combating with sunlight streaming into the space
Godox because fan is off at 50% which is perfect for product closeups
For sure, not to mention it is totally silent even with fans on :D
Which would recommend? 60x or 60d? The price point is not that far off.
I prefer the 60x
@@FellowFilmmaker thank you for your kind input. Appreciate it. Makes decision easier.
I am still waiting for any company to release a 120W battery powered bicoloured cob light. That will take run-and-gun to a whole new level.
I imagine that's coming next :)
@@FellowFilmmaker If they do, I will throw my money at them XD
Wouldnt the price difference be able to buy a better bag for the aperture?
Perhaps, I never looked into it to know for sure :D
Interesting conclusion considering the price difference, pretty sure you can buy a much nicer case of your choosing, batteries and still have money in your pocket...
Perhaps :) Either way the both have good qualities, just depends on what a person wants
Should you have a bi color in your kit ?
I think so! I use a bi-color alot as a rim or hair light
the case being the deciding factor doesn't seem to be enough of a difference.
Silent fans on the Godox is the main one for me
@@FellowFilmmaker would you happen to have a link for the bowen mount for Amaran? thanks for getting back
I do not, not really sure where to get that besides going right to aputure for it
We are sooooo spoiled as creators nowadays. That lights like this even exist is awesome!!!
We are pretty spoiled! :D So many gadgets at good rates
@@FellowFilmmaker FRFR! GREAT time to be into cinematography....