Why I HATE This Movie Genre
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#slasher #horror
this is why we need a third channel for only media takes, so we can quarantine them off the main channels
We'll call it Vaush's greatest L's
BUT THIS TAKE IS BASED
The Vaush L Pit
Holy shit how did you wake up and become so right
How can you think slasher films are good? They’re so boring. They’re like taking violent video games & making them less violent.
I think some people (Vaush included) make the assumption that if you like slashers it’s because you get a thrill out of watching the victims die, when for a lot of horror fans, their motives are usually quite more empathetic than people realize. There’s a lot of us who are not rooting for the villain. In fact Sean Cunningham who did the first Friday the 13 said it wasn’t supposed to be about watching nice kids being punished for pre-marital sex and smoking pot, but more about the youth’s righteous fear of being unfairly punished by their elders (Sean Cunningham was a hippie as was a lot of 80’s slasher directors) also: not all slashers are created equal, as with any genre there’s just as many bad ones as there is good ones.
This 100%, I literally cried for days because my favorite character died in the chucky show. Like, debilitating sadness
Yeah a lot of high quality horror movies are much less about the actual blood and guts and whatever, but they actually make you think about what's going on through what's on screen. Especially if they are a bit more subtle. Obviously a good example would be the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre with that movie being leftist in a lot of ways.
I like just really love Sidney Prescott
Right? It’s like the toilet art. A lot of people thought “that’s just a gross toilet” but then the artist explained how it represents a bunch of other stuff that wasn’t a gross toilet.
@@theorupturetan4670 Totally agree. The first Texas Chainsaw was sort of like corruption of the American family structure due to capitalism and automation. The dinner scene a the end always felt like a satire and parody of the nuclear family. The victims were the new generation (at the time hippies) and the villain is Nixon’s America.
It really bothers me when people lump the Scream movies into this discussion on slasher films. Scream has always been a meta-commentary on slasher films, rather than a parody. There is an entire slasher move series going on throughout the Scream films that helps with some actually good commentary on slashers.
I heard Stab 3 is better than Scream 3.
Came here to say this
@@Kevo6492 The bar is in hell
But scream is also a slasher, it partakes in the thing it commentates upon, unless I’m misunderstanding you 😅
@@katy2176-p3m technically yes its a slasher. but it uses the tropes of a slasher in a way that comments on the formulaic plot lines. there is a major character who knows what character tropes die or survive and tells everyone in the movie about it. it's just annoying when people talk about how boring/repetitive slashers are and use Scream as an example when Scream is satirizing the things people dislike about slashers.
When John Carpenter made Halloween, he mentioned that the reactionary stuff was not intentional and didn't care for that label being put on the film. I can take his word on that considering he made They Live.
I would imagine these days most They Live fans are right wing. I feel like a young leftist watching it might think it was antisemitic or fueling conspiracy thinking
I wasn't aware of that connection. They Live is awesome, of course.
Carpenter is truly goated for having his name on Halloween *and* The Thing alone.
@@Jazzmaster1992 The Thing (1982) is my favorite film of all time, so yeah. Carpenter imo never had a truly bad movie, but The Ward and the Village of the Damned remake were not quite what they should be.
John Carpenter is pretty liberal if not downright leftist. A truly reactionary film wouldn’t have the cops as incompetent as they are portrayed in Halloween, especially Halloween II. Halloween was really the first major horror film about suburban horror, evil creeping into a place people thought they were safe from. White flight isn’t overt but the subtext is there.
Vaush should have someone with a big red button ready to kill the stream whenever he starts talking about media
With the exception of Spiderman across the multiverse movie
I love Vaush but I will never take his music or movie critiques seriously
Same
Idk. I completely agree with some of his hot takes. His skyrim vid was good imo. Though I really feel like he overrated dark souls 3, and underrated dark souls 1. Ds2 and 3 was the fromsolft games of the soulsborne franchise that I played the least. Ds2 I only played through it once. I played through it again recently and quit after the looking glass knight. For ds3, I felt like the combat was too much. The roll button was basically an I frame activation button. It felt unrealistic. The blocking and poise are also useless
Same here
@@thanman6584that’s fair but you have to admit Dark Souls 3 is the best playing Dark Souls game (Elden Ring plays better than all three imo). Dark Souls 1 is timeless though, I can start a play through any time.
@@phillemon7664 I think DS3 is trash. Can't stand that game but love all other fromsoft games.
Vaush just unleashed the wrath of horror fans everywhere
Can confirm. I'm anti-Vowsh now.
Its true bc hes so wrong ab it being fascist especially in the slasher genre of horror content
Big ''never mess with the reddit nation'' vibes lmao
@@ppgurl420he never said that, someone in chat said Stephen king said horror was reactionary, to which Vaush disagreed
I like horror, but I don’t like slasher films lol.
Vaush Bad Media Takes
🤝
Name a more iconic duo.
Vaush & geopolitics 💀
Vaush and horses.
Vaush and Voosh
Shapiro and bad media takes
If you think about it, genres are kinda like genders for media
If you think about it, feet are just weird shaped hands you stand on
There are only two genres of media:
1. Emperor's New Groove
2. Political
If you think about it, socks are just feet gloves
If you think about it, Vaush looks a lot like Vowsh.
They actually are! The words share the same root.
It is really impressive that the Lord of the rings movies are goid enough that you can just set aside 11 hours to watch them all back to back and not get bores at all
I must have seen a different trilogy because that was a snoozefest. And I watched them twice 😅
@Kyuzo I think I can agree with this. When the first movie ended, yea I was a little fatigued since it was such a big movie but as the camera panned out and showed the big vast world that the characters were destined to traverse, it did bring a sense of charm, adventure and genuine magic. I liked the first one out of the three.
But the others are like that one scene from Clerks 2 😅
@@ziontea7045 Maybe you shouldn't watch 2X11 hours of movies and just get some shuteye.
@@ziontea7045 You mean the movie where they unironically say a movie with cartoon teddy bears is better than Return of the King?
@@avidfather1864 yes that one.
I'm just amused that Vaush's basis for hating slasher films boils down to the formula of one movie, that expanded out to like..... maybe three others.
And Scream is a satire of those movies and deals with basically every issue he has with them lol
Vaush does do that a lot with his bad media takes. Remembers one thing he dislikes about it, applies it the entirety of the thing.
@@zackwalker1789 while I agree, it’s mostly just the first two screams that follows that satire
@@kennym1216 untrue
@@wacky3486 I suppose he does, doesn't he? Good thing he doesn't critique that sort of thing for a living. =p
Lol absolute L take. For a guy that has criticized conservatives and the ultra far right for not being able to see past the surface in pop culture, he's doing just that when it comes to the REAGAN ERA genre of films. Like how edgy heavy metal came to be, it was a pushback against puritanism and its authority over individual liberties hence the guy coming in to ruin all the fun young people are having at the lake, loghouse, whatever.
@Stan Fisher what did I just say
@@stanfisher2450Yeah and in the first Friday the murderer is a boomer who is taking out consequences of a former generation out on the current one. Chucky gets into Andy’s apartment because marketing worked so well on him he was disappointed he didn’t get the doll and the mother had to pay a panhandler to get one second hand.
Vauf explicitly asked where and why Nier Automata had nihilistic themes...after 100%'ing the game...
If you havent played it, it ends with mandatory questions like:
- DO YOU ADMIT THERE IS NO MEANING TO THIS WORLD?(Y/N)
It's how i found the guy, I just can't believe people this media illiterate exist. It's so freaking funny to watch, he just keeps going.
@@roberteriksen6434 Bro what? How did Vaush miss that. Nihilism is one of the philosophies explored as a contrast to existentialism. 😭
@@stanfisher2450yes and wild take: the murders of the young sexual promiscuous people is considered... A bad thing. It's stories about how God in Sodom and Gomorrah is a villain.
uh oh... another media take...
Writing a good horror villain is pretty hard I’m reminded of heels in pro-wrestling, you want the crowd to actually hate you but if you’re any good at that the crowd will recognize how good you are at it and start liking you for being a good heel. This has happened to most slasher villains the worse and more depraved you make a villain the more people are likely to appreciate the villain. This isn’t inherently bad but it significantly lowers the stakes in a film and may go against the authors intent to have the reader side with the victims. There’s only a handful of horror villains I can think of who are both well implemented in the plot of the film and legitimately hated by the audience
Take a shot everytime Vaush has a bad take on anything fun related outside of politics 😂
I would be in a damn coma by now
I would literally poop my pants and die
I think his takes are nuanced. He gets some things wrong imo. I think he overrated dark souls 3. He called it a masterpiece, which I don't agree with at all. That game is overrated in general. Ds2 and 3 I played the least out of those games. Vaush also underrated ds1. He also shits on the hobbit films, which I don't think it's bad as everyone says it was. It kept the lotr mystical and grandiose vibes. And I think it was way better than the star wars sequels.
I would be slightly tipsy once a year because his takes almost never miss, y'all just brainwashed by corporations into mindlessly consuming blandest, most boring shit imaginable. Every time Vaush puts out one of his "hot" takes all the counterarguments against him boil down to "who cares if it's shit, I just have fun turning of my brain and consooooooming".
@@thanman6584 I think it comes down to nitpicking and fishing for something contentious. Like saying something is bad and trying to explain why it isnt left enough lol. Not that he goes crazy or anything
The only explanation for why someone would say that Slasher's are inherently reactionary is that they think all Slashers are structured exactly like F13 or like the first Halloween. There are more than enough Slashers with progressive messaging, like the Scream franchise with Scream 3 being the most overt example.
the first Halloween isn't reactionary
one of the directors of the latter Friday the 13th films did say that Jason was basically am old testemnt god. He would show up to punish the teen for theirs sins and his arrival was always preceded by natural forces, like wind and rain. He really didn't get why conservatives didn't like his work.
Vaush on RUclips: "Uh, yeah, I really hate horror movies like this, cuz... well... it totally misses the obvious subtext about relations between the working class and the bourgeoisie."
*cut to Vaush later that night, on the couch with his gf, screams coming from the TV; Vaush's hands are covering his eyes and he asks if it's safe to look yet*
???
Hearing *_The Empire Strikes Back_* referred to as “the fifth *_Star Wars_* movie” was a dagger to the heart.
It's the fifth chronologically, is called Episode 5, and would be the fifth in George Lucas' recommended watch order. Being so attached to the release date is pretty arbitrary.
Imagine peaking after one sequel
You know that was a thing since 2005 right?
Get offa my lawn, ya damn kids.
@@ursaminorjim
But sir, your grass is so well maintained; and we need to touch it
I don’t watch that many horror movies. But I always hate it when characters are so dumb they’re borderline unlikable.
Enh, I think Slasher horror does kind of have the problem that at this point it's been run through so many rapid-fire cycles of genre deconstruction and revival and re-invention ect. that it can be hard to really get in to any one film without a solid knowledge of the tropes and history around it, which can be a bit more than some viewers can be bothered with.
And than terrifier 2 comes along and hits number 1 in the box office beating out Top Gun
I love slasher movies personally. I don’t take catharsis in the characters getting killed, it scares me because I put myself in their place.
Vaush the type of dude to drink water from his bathroom sink
Its good water where i live
If its filtered, what's the problem?
@Sergio-nb4hj I live in the Carribean, so every time I hear about someone drinking from a sink, I have an immediate guttural reaction. But yea, if it's filtered there's no issue right? It's not like you are putting your shit covered hands on the area the water flows out of the sink. It should be just as fine as a kitchen sink. But still I don't think even if I have filtered tap water in the future that I'll trust it enough to drink from it.
..I do that 👀 is that bad??? 😟
@@scottvelez3154 Not unless you live in the early 19th century when we didn't have advanced pipe systems.
Or if you're living in one of the houses that were built before that and don't have such, I guess, but most better-off countries have long since upgraded in almost every house. That's why the one person mentioned that they were cringing as they were from the Caribbean - a place where I guess the upgrades aren't as common.
As with most of his movie takes, I disagree, but I find a specific kind of fun in slashers. I think many do. It’s intentionally very tropey. Terrifier and Terrifier 2, I think, play with those tropes in a very interesting way. While having the most over the top, insane gore ever filmed. They’re almost parodies, but to me, slashers are almost parodies of movies generally. That point would require me to write another essay though, so you can ignore it if it bugs you lol
I dunno I saw Terrifier 2 and it was getting this hype of being so like disturbing and gore filled and while it’s more hardcore than any movie coming out the big Hollywood studios these days like…have you seen The Sadness? Now that’s disturbing.
It’s a shame the dude who made terrifier is a Jordan Peterson simp
I agree. Its kind of like death metal lyrics. Some of them are trying to scare you or hold serious messages sure, but 99% are pretty much satirical placeholders to match the ridiculous brutality of the instruments and vocals
@@anthonyc7482 Makes the failed attempt of the protagonists’ story in Terrifier 2 more clear now.
@@anthonyc7482 Where did you find this information?
What if the killer was a horse vowsh?
I mostly agree with Vaush, I mean, I just never understood the thing that is supposed to drive the entertainment factor in slasher films. My general impression is that slasher film is a very 1970s thing, that only a person who was young in the 1970s could truly understand and identify with.
But again, given the fact that I am a millennial boomer, my general perception is that slasher films are a form of very low frequency fetish for reactions, the same exact way that haircut fetish is a form of very high frequency fetish for reactions, but slasher films are somehow politically correct enough to get millions of dollars of investment, all the while haircut fetish is considered too weird to receive millions of dollars worth of investment.
The sociopathic fetish gets millions of dollars worth of investment. The feministic haircut fetish does not get millions of dollars worth of investment. That actually makes sense now that I think of it; sociopathic slasher fetish is very conservative and reactionary as I understand it, and haircut fetish is the opposite; enjoyed by crossdressers and lesbians and a vast majority of left leaning sensible people who enjoy watching the "destruction" of women with long feminine hair, which for many people my same age (read: people who already were 18 years old by 2004, ergo, well before the internet social media era took over), has been such a strong constant in life; the fact that only men or lesbian women have short hair; watching the destruction of this conservative binary is a very powerful fetish if you already are an open minded person with a fetish for crossdressing as a very attractive woman.
At any rate, the only so-called "slasher" film that I have genuinely enjoyed is Scream, and it was mostly because of the intrigue of trying to find out who the killer was; but who am I fooling here, Scream was arguably a solid film by any measure; I think it aged well, which is a difficult thing to do for slasher films in general.
@Unstoppable Philosophy Bro I have no problem with having an L take, we all have L takes, we are not experts on all fields. But slasher films are strongly represented by films such as Halloween, Jason, and Freddy Krueger, and I just do not see any interesting political nor social commentary in any of them. I should probably watch the better slasher films, but again, if the biggest slasher films are as vapid as Halloween, Jason, and Freddy Krueger it does and it can reduce your interest in wanting to watch these films.
But anyways, thank you for the references; I will probably binge watch all of them, one of these days that I feel like watching "good" slasher films.
Oh sick I love getting insight about storytelling from the guy who often notes that he basically hasn't read a book or watched a film since getting out of college and only plays video games and watches cartoons.
I'm pretty sure all of Vaush's complaints about literally every non-game style of media he brings up would be resolved if he watched more than two things in that style. It's just constant Dunning-Kruger, a neverending cycle of outlining problems with specific works, extrapolating those problems to the entire field, and then assuming that anything in the field without those problems is some kind of marginal counter-example which only validates his initial perspective. If the first science fiction movie he'd ever seen had been "Interstellar" he'd still be talking about how science fiction as a concept has fundamental problems with tending to be boring and pretentious.
@@MagusMirificus I mean to be fair if anyone’s first movie is a Christopher Nolan film they’d probably think the entire enterprise of filmmaking is nothing but pretentious veneer.
@@Kevo6492 I'm not even a big Nolan fan, but it's really weird seeing the internet consensus flip on him since Dark Knight Rises and Tenet. It feels very performative.
Jesus people are mad at this one lmao
@@jasonfenton8250 Nolan was always pretentious, but films like DKR and Tenet were good enough that it felt like he deserved his ego. Now that he's releasing films that aren't nearly as good, the ego is grating.
It's not performative to acknowledge a drop in a creator's quality.
Yea that bit about Arnold needing to lose muscle for Conan is real. Arnold's arms and pecs were so big he couldn't grab a sword with both hands because the muscles would get in the way.
Arnold good
Dude who even watches slasher films??? I work at a movie theater and those are by far the mobies no one boyhers going to for the most part. Also, "slasher films" and "horror films" are not synonyms as im seeing some people pretend, slasher is a subgenre in horror.
Literally such a bad take, slashers have very unique takes on politics/social movements in America especially if you can read past the surface level. Sorry Vaush. Bad take
Which slasher films would you recommend as having intelligent unique takes on politics / social movements??
@@leadleader2023 none of them it's just a cope
@@leadleader2023 Other than the original Halloween, i can't think of any that had truly unique takes on anything. You could make a case for Texas Chainsaw Massacre as well but I don't think of it as a traditional "slasher" film, just pure horror.
@@leadleader2023 Midsummer, The Witch, Pearl, X, Barbarian
@@leadleader2023 Scream, Halloween, and Evil Dead franchises are also great watches
I love horror in the same way that I love aggressive hardcore music. It might sound strange but both of those ease my anxiety, in a kind of cathartic way. It sounds morbid but I swear it’s not, I can’t handle anything true crime but horror movies are fiction so it doesn’t phase me in the same way
Wacky theory: Norman unexpectedly heroically sacrifices himself to save his son in the middle of the final battle between Spidey and Venom. The experimental cure they use on Harry is unstable, this game's version of turns out to be the Goblin formula. Harry blames his father's death on Spider-Man and uses his father's tech to become Green Goblin in the next game.
I will say that slasher films are horridly limited in their genre for no good reason. You know what I think would be a kickass slasher movie? One set around a family trying to escape a war, a la WW2 or Syria. The slashers aren't just one person, but the fog of war itself. Soldiers randomly shooting at you whether accidentally or intentionally, bombs going off, the sound of planes and helicopters flying overhead for hours on end with random buzzes of whizzing lead coming near, all whilst trying to find solace in the wake of such chaos. The few other civilians you meet up with either run off alone or die next to you. Of course such abstraction can bring it to a point that its not even one of its genre anymore, but certainly good cinematography and writing can make up for it. After all, it doesn't have to be just one person.
That's not a slasher movie then
@@nohbuddy1 Damn, i guess slasher movies suck then.
@@trashrabbit69 Pretty much except the original Halloween
@@trashrabbit69How many slashers have you seen?
@@trashrabbit69 my biggest issue has always been, you go into these movies with an expectation that the protagonists are going to come out on top.
I want the mystery of not knowing, by not having every single slasher movie end with good overcoming the evil.
Let the bad guys win every once in a while, and that could breathe some life into the genre.
Allow the audience to truly be shocked by the ending by letting the protagonists win in every single movie.
The only “scary” movie I like is The Thing 1982, and the only movie that’s actually made me feel worried or anxious is Threads
David Arquette wrote and directed a parody slasher where the killer was a crazy conservative in a Reagan mask and was very much framed as the bad guy and all the people he killed were framed as good people.
I always hated these movies because I know I'm not supposed to care about these people being killed, but I do end up anyways.
Vaush with another L take, who would have thought
“TUCKER AND DALE VS EVIL” MENTIONED WWWW
Horror done right is quite effective. The Evil dead films are awesome, Sam Raimi is batting 1000 on those.
Freddy Krueger is the only slasher villain I like because he has a unique and darkly funny personality and had very very creative ways to kill his victims.
I feel validated.
FOR YEARS people told me I was crazy for despising kickass and refusing to watch the second one.
The fact that vaush immediately said "I fucking hated kickass." Filled me with such validation and joy I can never describe it.
Right with you brother that movie was ass. Also weirdly sexual with the little girl character. Not even to mention how they literally murder a prostitute for being horrified and and holding a knife well cowering in the corner after watching the little girl commit mass murder
God just rewatched the scene worse than I remembered on top of it literally just being yea killing the black thugs. In the scene the girl is literally trying to escape and run away when she is impaled twice well fun music plays over it. God I remember literally just leaving and walking out of the room after that scene well my parents urged me to keep watching. God the whole leaded gasoline thing should just have been lethal just giving gen X brain damage was worse than it being outright fatal
When sucker punched is your favorite movie😢😢
Terminator is an actual slasher movie
it doesn't feel like it because it is actually well made
Slashers just kinda feel like gore porn to me; antagonist is usually supernaturally overpowered or omniscient and use that power to just torture (usually kids?). Not all that fun.
It doesn't sound fun when you look at it that way, but that's not how most people watch them. People like the creativity of the violence, gore effects (either because they're good or hilariously bad), and how easy it is to turn your brain off watching it.
Me and the slasher fans I know don't even view the characters like people, but the actors playing them. Death takes on a different form in media like this.
That can also be cathartic in a weird way, when you're dealing with trauma associated with death. I can't really explain it but I'm sure someone more knowledgable about psychology could.
I look at them in the complete opposite way. I don't want to see likable characters being brutally murdered, despite being in a position where they're in danger of being assailed by a lunatic with a knife.
Slashers imo, prey on the very real fears of serial killing, and the loopholes in which deranged people can take oppurtunities to snuff out life without remorse. It's a very scary thing to me, and that's why I love the genre.
Some slashers are basically just gore porn, espescially the really garbage slasher films, and I can understand not being into slasher films, but I would disagree that they're only gore porn. The best slashers never really give off that vibe to me.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre isn't just visceral because of it's gore, (which is actually used quite sparingly for most of the film) but because of it's highly grounded nature, and droning, disgusting atmosphere.
Halloween actually has very little gore in the first place. Often, it is up to the viewer to fill in the blanks somewhat, in regards to certain kills or scenes of violence, with how dark and blinding certain parts of the film can be.
And Scream, while violent and gory, plays as more of a meta-commentary on slashers, while still being an excellent slasher itself. In fact, Scream 1 really does play into making you feel bad for the characters being killed. Their deaths don't feel like gratutitous torture porn. They feel like grounded, violent, emotionally upsetting deaths.
its pain porn, yes. I refuse to watch any of them.
they will continue to get more disturbing as time goes on.
I often wonder, "is there anything these ppl won't watch? is there a limit, at all?"
but ppl will only demand more, because they are addicted / desensitized to it.
it's violence porn, feeding on their primitive lizard brain.
If you've ever seen Freddy's Nightmares, the tv series, it was usually always the "bad guy" that got what was coming to him, and Freddy went after corrupt adults almost exclusively in that series
He dies on the dumbest hills, this man is simply astounding in how he can post dubs and L’s in the same day
I think it's not about killing young kids, it might be the vocal point about killers that people are interested more then the main protagonist.
I'm not sure what it could be, but people like slasher movie because at least there's some small bits and pieces of backstories of the slashers, well...at least people try to make sense of the movies, people try though and idc I'm intrigued by it.
But that being said, it has nothing to do with boomers making a message about don't have sex until marriage, Vaush 💀
I hate horror in general because it either bores me or leaves me feeling deeply uncomfortable for weeks on end.
In Sin City Marv kills the priest that assists Kevin in the murdering of prostitutes. Not a slasher but it reminded me of Vaush’s reference to the V for Vendetta priest
Vaush having a good media take is like looking for a needle in a haystack
Tru, if you have bad vision you are going to struggle to find it.
The original Texas Chain Saw Massacre has some interesting sociopolitical undertones, and not in a reactionary way. The infamous grandpa hammer scene almost feels like vegan propaganda.
I love TCM, for being almost 50 years old it has aged very well.
snowpiercer's moral is straightforwardly that rich people and climate change is bad, its just also not a good movie. I think it might be the most closeminded scifi I've ever seen, with how much it doesn't think about what the world and the people in the world they're trying to build would actually be like
I watched that Chucky series. Did you know the Chucky franchise was created by a gay italian? I am also a gay italian. Anyways the way the two young gay boys are depicted as struggling to be accepted and coming out in the Chucky series made me cry multiple times.
But Vaush is right. I've argued with many horror libs who claim horror is rooted in social justice, and I constantly bring up how horror movies, especially slashers, all come across as being written by virgin christian incels. "All the jocks will die...and the Virgin girl is PURE and will survive! The virgin must survive and also she doesnt do pot and alcohol!"
Lol this is a dumb critique
@@theamaeve8175 okay, christian incel.
I'm also a Detroiter, and we defied all horror tropes when our ultimate chads Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell made the Evil Dead trilogy and series.
Christian incel horror cucks hate it cuz "Ash isnt a PURE and INNOCENT VIRGIN, and he does pot and alcohol and thats AGAINST THE RULES!"
@@theamaeve8175lul wow guess that means ur rite bro
Tucker and Dale VS Evil alone justifies the genre. Evil Dead and all, too.
The only slasher movie I like is the like 3 minutes of JoJo's Part 6 when Jolyne is winning against C-Moon, we see everything from the villain's perspective, and Jolyne inexplicably turns into a slasher villain for no apparent reason, like crawling through vents and fucking with him for no reason by like touching his shoulder and skittering off.
I agree. But Im not a fan of horror genres generally.
An overtly political slasher movie already exists. And it has multiple sequels/prequels: The Purge. It’s a slasher movie, and definitely political, especially in the later released movies
Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a criticism of the livestock industry and The Purge is about how crime doesn’t affect rich people
My rationale for not watching horror movies is there’s already enough horror in real life as it is, so I don’t see the point of voluntarily subjecting myself to more of it. I’d rather consume media that reinforces what little faith I have in humanity. That’s not to say that I can’t appreciate the immense talent and cinematography that’s gone into making some of the greatest horror movies, though. You can easily appreciate the talent and skill behind something even without consuming it.
gotta disagree, i dont watch a lot of horror (mostly bc I dont like gore) but most of the genre doesnt feel doomer like that to me, a lot of the movies end with the evil being defeated and theres a catharsis in that, especially when real life horror often doesnt end that way
I avoided the genre for most of my life, but have started getting into it since Get Out and Hereditary. They coaxed me into horror content. Slashers are not my preference, but I’ve been watching a wider range. It’s an interesting way to see messages about what we fear or are anxious about in society. I also love practical effects and makeup for various skin effect like bruising, contusions, or more gnarly variants.
Another huge L from Voosh
they hated Vaush because he told the truth.
I need a Dr.Jackal and Mr.Hyde inspired horror/thriller film.
I was about to tell to choke on my dikk, but actually, as a horrorhead, I actually don't like slasher movies that much either. Even the original Halloween, I find it whatever. I'd rather watch Halloween III, which dropped the Michael Myers storyline completely and is the most comfy 80s movie ever.
Honestly, the only slasher killer I’m invested in is Chucky from Child’s Play. The Bride to Cult and the TV series there is LGBTQ+ rep created by Don Mancini who’s also in the LGBTQ+.
My grandma's favorite movie is kill bill
I feel as if Child’s Play, the original atleast, has a sort of anti-capitalist lean to it. I haven’t watched them in ages but if anyone can remind what moments made me think that, I’d really appreciate it.
Andy's life is turned upside down because of him falling for marketing. Also in the sequel his mom loses custody of him because the cops in the first movie don't back her up and leave her out to dry.
Alien is the only thing close to a slasher that I have ever enjoyed. That movie is amazing
I like slasher stories that play with the tropes typical to the genre and/or classify slasher villains themselves as a specific monster subtype. I think that's why I loved the Hack/Slash comics so much, because it did both. It was essentially about a final girl who weaponized her final girl status to hunt down slashers across America in a Scooby Doo-style van, meanwhile the government is engaging in a secret plot to harness the slashers' regenerative and supernatural abilities for military applications.
The kick ass movies are more fun and less pretentious than the comics. Sucker Punch is a movie thats guilty of the same shallow objectification it claims to criticize.
Bless Vaush’s heart his media tales are so cringe. Slashers aren’t actually suggesting that premarital sex is bad etc., there’s underlying political and social subtext related to those tropes which has been analyzed in depth. Smh. Moreover, slashers basically always side with the sole survivor, they’re not making you root for the killer in the best of them lol. The horror genre is full of progressive people for a reason.
im now an anarcho communist because invincible is enjoyed by vaush
I just hate movie franchises that have like sequels and reboots up the ass. Like yeah let's watch a sequel to a reboot of a reboot that also has such a generic name that we have to put the year it came out in parenthesis next to it. Not to mention the lack of effort they put into making them make sense lore-wise, so the fandom and wiki pages are just a confusing mess of alternate timelines and alternate universes and retcons
First Blood (first Rambo) is a great movie about the aftermath and trauma of the Vietnam war. The rest were absolute trash.
There was a weird seeing in the movie Kick-Ass her one of the guys says he'll wait for her cuz he's in love.
It’s weird because Halloween/Psycho solidified this formula and they feel self-aware about it. They feel like nuanced commentaries on old timey sex negative misogyny
I know it’s just nostalgia but I loved the first 3 Chuckie movies and the chainsaw massacre. I watched a lot of horror when I was younger and I remember them fondly. But I also know beyond that they’re not very good..
Bro… tf did that chatter say about the next terminator movie being about ai…?
Fucking Skynet IS an Ai.. wtf
Jesus Christ, Arnold Shwarzenneger flexing makes me understand same sex attraction... Not that I'm attracted, but I understand.
Why do people say your media takes are bad? I didn't disagree with anything you said. For the record Zach Snyder is just Michael Bay, but slower.
Vaush’s worst take yet
2:36 Vaush would love the part in Sin City where a guy kills up the ladder leading to a prominent religious figure head with corrupt ties that killed his one night s3x worker stand.
Wow he didn't lie about the autism
i actually agree with vaush on this one
I hard agree that slashers suck, although Tucker and Dale vs Evil is absolute gold
ya, Rocky 1 wasn't an underdog sportsman movie (i mean, ya, it was...), it was about a quitter, a loser, who never put effort into anything, a bum who didn't know he was a bum, being given the chance of a lifetime... if Rocky had no character arc he woulda been an absolute embarrassment to boxing. Flopping in the first round, probably not even injured, just not caring enough to get back up. Rocky learns what it means to actually LIVE, and not be a zombie forever
Any adaptations where Mark Millar is not involved in the adaptation is a much better version of his work because Millar just wants to be edgy for shock value and the work greatly suffers for it.
Ugh... Art the clown is a great slasher villian.
He is relentless with his bad media takes
Look if people wanna say Terminator Salvation is bad I can live with that even tho I liked it, but if anyone says it’s worse than T3 I will [REDACTED] because T3 is basically a parody of T2 and has no new ideas, same as T5 and I haven’t seen T6 but it sounds like it falls into the same category as 3 and 5. At least Salvation was trying to do something new. It’s nowhere near as good as 1 or 2 but it has its own voice and story.
There's a semi-obscure movie where a screwed-over mil vet shoots-up Wallstreet or something
I feel like he would like the new hellraiser remake or the newest halloween sequel. Theyre a lot dif from their own series and the slasher genre in general. Especially the new halloween movie with the way it treats Michael myers as a villain
I love the Halloween series, but it has SO MANY different timelines in it, I lose track and it's impossible to have a marathon lol I just own parts 1 - Resurrection and not any of the newer ones beyond that
@@jonnaking3054 ya halloween ends is actually pretty unique and goes in a completely different direction from the series. I didnt even watch halloween kills or the 2018 one before watching it
Youve gotta watch the original Swedish dragon tattoo trilogy. The entire thing is a masterpiece, zero bad frames
I Love those films, and the books that inspired them. 😇 I refuse to read the David Lagercrantz fan-fiction, though.
@@caflagel Grotesco did right in their sketch of book burning where they refuse to burn David Lagercrantz because it's not litterateur
Great books
The first Rocky movie is the greatest sports film ever put to film. I will die on that hill.
The Boys: This is where my parents were murdered.
Vaush: Cowabummer dude.
I completely agree with the take on Kick-Ass. I rewatched it recently and cringed the whole time throughout it. The dialogue was awful and it felt like it had no soul.
The Kick Ass comic does it so much better. Like he doesn’t get the girl. When she realises he wasn’t gay she calls him a creep when he tries to ask her out.
Wow, one good thing
@@falconeshield Overall it commits a lot more to the bit. It goes to parody the medium a lot more effectively
i disagree with the thumbnail because i like scream and the first one was trying to be what cabin in the woods was and one time i watched it with my dad
Nightmare on Elmstreet 2 had gay subtext
Slasher villains are just the evil equivalent to super heroes in media.
Another media take L
my problem with slashers is that they're not scary and they do not contain very good characters and drama for the most part either. Just heaps and heaps of cheese with no upside.
This mf doesn't like cheese
@@Floydthefuckbag Real cheese is great, metaphorical movie cheese is not, imo.