Better the Devils You Knew | The 2013-14 New Jersey Devils - Yesteryear Ep. 3

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @TheBlazingMonkey
    @TheBlazingMonkey 2 месяца назад +155

    love learning about totally obscure nhl seasons where the team doesnt even make the playoffs😭😭😭😭 🔥

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +24

      My goal is to make it as fun for you to learn about as it was for me to discover! :)

    • @HyperMiniTed
      @HyperMiniTed 2 месяца назад +3

      @@PinholesGraham in 10 years I would love it if you did the 22-23 flames

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 2 месяца назад +111

    The Martin Brodeur NHL 14 cover season

  • @TheFusionmix
    @TheFusionmix 2 месяца назад +79

    Bookending with Kovalchuk like that was masterful

    • @gabrielarrigo1525
      @gabrielarrigo1525 2 месяца назад +11

      @@TheFusionmix that face on the last Kovalchuk picture was hilarious too

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +23

      As soon as I found out that this team was the worst shootout team ever AND Kovy was the best single-season shootout scorer ever, I literally said "NO WAY"

    • @Gabeghouls
      @Gabeghouls 2 месяца назад +3

      @@PinholesGraham whole time I was watching i was like “what really inspired this particular subject” and the ending didn’t disappoint.

  • @BloodRider1914
    @BloodRider1914 2 месяца назад +35

    That pan to Kovalchuk at the end gave me chills, great video.

  • @brettpatterson404
    @brettpatterson404 2 месяца назад +37

    Jagr at age 42 put up 24 goals 67 points playing with Zajac and Zubrus as his line mates.

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +5

      There's a reason why Devils fans remember him so fondly!

  • @WhyAreYouRunning356
    @WhyAreYouRunning356 2 месяца назад +15

    As a Devils fan, this season was incredibly painful.
    After watching your video... It's so much worse than I could possibly remember.

  • @ianmillerdevilsfan1223
    @ianmillerdevilsfan1223 2 месяца назад +20

    A very very brutal season. A great defensive team that was very slow and old. And honestly the reliance on Brodeur probably cost them a playoff spot, Cory Schneider in his prime was a top 5 goalie in the NHL. All they had to do was win 6 of those shootout wins and they land a playoff spot. Offensive scoring was nonexistent except for short bursts.
    Also excellent video.

  • @Haurmeya
    @Haurmeya 2 месяца назад +17

    Watching this hurts less knowing that the Devils managed to pull themselves out of the pit of dogpoop as of now, but this still hurt. Watching Brodeur having age finally catch up to him was like watching the family dog get old. Thanks for the video.

  • @trunk_slamchest
    @trunk_slamchest 2 месяца назад +5

    love the john bois / bobby broccoli aesthetic. thanks Hockey Psychology!

  • @ndrocca
    @ndrocca 2 месяца назад +3

    I know this team is super recent, but the 2022-23 Flames deserve a video. I cannot stress enough how frustrating this team was to watch as a Flames fan.
    For reference, that Flames squad literally set the all-time record for most losses when outshooting an opponent by 10 or more with 25.

  • @stupidvarietyhour
    @stupidvarietyhour 2 месяца назад +50

    PINHOLES GRAHAM DEVILS VIDEO??? my life is complete

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +20

      It's the 50th anniversary of the Scouts/Rockies/Devils franchise this season, so I'm gonna be putting the spotlight on the a fair bit! Along with the other team who shares that anniversary...

    • @QueensNewYorkguy
      @QueensNewYorkguy 2 месяца назад

      @@PinholesGrahamappreciate the love for us! I’ll be watching it alll 👏

    • @mattycyt5973
      @mattycyt5973 2 месяца назад

      @@PinholesGraham🤭

    • @AdrienGF
      @AdrienGF 2 месяца назад

      ​@@PinholesGrahampls eventually make a minnesota wild video❤ love the videos keep up the great work

  • @RandomMan__
    @RandomMan__ 2 месяца назад +9

    Few notes from a devils fan during this time.
    1. Beautiful tie back to kovalchuk. It wasn’t lost on us. Every devil fan knew just how good he was at the shootout and his absence was definitely felt. Don’t forget this was the year of the tj oshie shootout Olympics, where kovalchuk was one of repeated shootout goal scorers for Russia.
    2. In the credits of the video you should’ve/forgot to mention that this streak would snow ball into the longest shootout losing streak of all time. 18 in a row. March 2013-October 2014. In fact I was so used to this team being shit that the goal at 20:50 legitimately took me off guard too 😂.
    Overall amazing vid tho. Love ur stuff.

  • @crusader7659
    @crusader7659 2 месяца назад +30

    This feels like the only context I could brag about owning two game-worn Jacob "shootout God" Josefson jerseys

    • @justinz39sabres
      @justinz39sabres 2 месяца назад +3

      i have a josefson poster hanging on my wall from when he was with buffalo lmaoo

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +2

      My only memory of him is Ovi pancaking him in OT lol

  • @josephnajarian2038
    @josephnajarian2038 2 месяца назад +8

    Yes, you’re finally doing a vid on my favorite team!
    But of all the seasons to choose, I definitely didn’t expect this one. This set the Devils back YEARS; 2012 was their last chance and it was time to rebuild. I think this was the year that effectively confirmed that the window was closed.

  • @sharkhaos_probably
    @sharkhaos_probably 2 месяца назад +7

    We always win the jackpot when Pinholes "Let's Go Grahambling" Graham uploads

  • @NJDevil1982
    @NJDevil1982 2 месяца назад +44

    Devils should have started a rebuild once Parise signed with Minnesota and Kovalchuk left for Russia. They should have learned from the late 90’s and early 2000’s Rangers that signing aging stars to bloated contracts doesn’t work.

    • @Pensfan5919
      @Pensfan5919 2 месяца назад +4

      And once they did, Detroit didn't learn. And now Pittsburgh isn't learning. History never changes, it just repeats.

    • @jordangalvis9695
      @jordangalvis9695 2 месяца назад +6

      I think Lou is just allergic or something to that. He never would've done it. It's why I feel the rebuild didn't start really until Shero arrived

    • @DeadPixel27
      @DeadPixel27 2 месяца назад

      Devils will always try and replicate NYR and we all know why.

  • @liltiger3
    @liltiger3 2 месяца назад +3

    Oh man, the dramatic irony of Kovalchuk having the record for most shootout goals hits so hard.

  • @Arifraser373
    @Arifraser373 2 месяца назад +5

    pinholes graham I wish more people made videos like this

  • @Stukmund
    @Stukmund 2 месяца назад +3

    These goofy NHL seasons make me appreciate the small and weird elements that make up a season. I knew that shootouts could be vital to any team's success or demise but this is next level... 😬
    This was another great video and I am proud to be a Patreon supporter! Keep up the great work dude. Your content is always worth the wait.

  • @adamstevens8323
    @adamstevens8323 4 дня назад

    Been watching the devils since the 08/09 season. I must admit, this stretch of years after kovy left are like a black hole, specifically this season. It’s like it mind had blocked it out because of the trauma of how bad things got. Thanks for the walk down memory lane. Elias was and will be one of my favorite players ever.

  • @NorthernKnights
    @NorthernKnights 2 месяца назад +13

    It’s actually crazy just how bad one team can be at the shootout. I didn’t even realize that level of ineptitude was possible

    • @krog21
      @krog21 2 месяца назад +3

      @@NorthernKnights I only remember this because the Red Wings were horrible in the shootout during the lockout shortened 2013 season and the 13-14 season and I remember looking up shootout stats and seeing the only team worse at shootouts was Infact, the Devils.

    • @broadstreetbullies849
      @broadstreetbullies849 2 месяца назад +3

      I mean they even made the flyers look good in the shootout

  • @RonanDahlman-ci1ql
    @RonanDahlman-ci1ql 2 месяца назад +9

    11:33 I’d be a little scared to try and stop a slap shot that was called “The Truth”, to be honest.

  • @OliveAir26
    @OliveAir26 2 месяца назад +1

    That was such a righteous watch. Completely spellbound by the end, such a tragedy at both ends of the season.

  • @CoEmpathy
    @CoEmpathy 2 месяца назад +2

    Excellent video, love seeing the production of your videos get better over time and your storytelling touch is magic. The tie back to Kovalchuk at the end was peak.

  • @nathanwoodcockn7184
    @nathanwoodcockn7184 2 месяца назад +5

    Btw, dude, you're good, keep videos like this up

  • @milesbaillie1011
    @milesbaillie1011 2 месяца назад +4

    God these videos are so good😩

  • @Vitalitay
    @Vitalitay 2 месяца назад

    This and the 2012 team is what got me into hockey

  • @justinz39sabres
    @justinz39sabres 2 месяца назад +1

    wow i was already impressed by how you put this video together and then when it ended full circle with kovi i was like daaaaaammn this guys good 😮

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! I'm glad that little bookend paid off :)

  • @matthewrasero2349
    @matthewrasero2349 2 месяца назад +6

    GRAHAM UPLOADED LETS GOOO

  • @jrwhynot3631
    @jrwhynot3631 2 месяца назад

    can’t wait for you to break all of our hearts with the story of johnny hockey and matty gaudreau

  • @aleisnotreal
    @aleisnotreal 2 месяца назад

    Another Pinholes Graham classic. Music was nothing short of amazing as well.

  • @alainsoucysergerie9879
    @alainsoucysergerie9879 2 месяца назад

    I'm among those few that are more auditive than visual. Therefore, I can totally appreciate content with a very basic production value as long as the core content is good.
    That being said...the graphs and all the transitions in this guy's vids are sooooo smooth!

  • @romantuerki
    @romantuerki 2 месяца назад

    Devils fan here. As someone who fell off the wagon for a few years (from approx. 2013 to 2019), it’s really cool to have a recap of what I missed. You did great. ❤️🖤
    (Fun fact: I was at the Devils-Canadiens game at 20:27!)

  • @MrServingSize
    @MrServingSize 10 дней назад

    the jersey license plates with the dates and scores in them was a real nice touch and attention to detail! Awesome content, keep it up!

  • @sheistybossman
    @sheistybossman 2 месяца назад

    As a Devils fan (ableit a more recent one) :
    "Oh boy, this one's gonna hurt...", UrinatingTree.

  • @justin.post99
    @justin.post99 2 месяца назад

    NJ license plates for the scores was a nice touch!

  • @TheronAnderson-hy3lp
    @TheronAnderson-hy3lp 2 месяца назад

    This channel is brutally underrated according to the views. Apparently there is not as many hockey nerds out there. Great vids bud, very enjoyable.

  • @sharpie12354
    @sharpie12354 2 месяца назад

    Oh man this was the year i started watching, my heart haha, I loved Brunner man, a preview of what switzerland would bless us w/ in the future

  • @MrTragicPilot
    @MrTragicPilot 2 месяца назад

    Shout out for referencing Val Kilmer's greatest movie quote at 35:10. Love it. Now I want to watch Tombstone again.

  • @ShadowKnightX71
    @ShadowKnightX71 2 месяца назад +1

    This is great
    Edit:I realized that all yesteryear episodes the year always ended with four

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад +1

      Lmao I noticed that too. You get the medal for being the first to point it out!

  • @DreamyAllenShortsman
    @DreamyAllenShortsman 2 месяца назад

    Captured my attention in something I would have found wholly uninteresting a day ago. Another great video, Graham.

  • @el_tristo
    @el_tristo 2 месяца назад

    Man these videos are absolutely killer, unbelievable quality, big fan

  • @antoniuvintila3754
    @antoniuvintila3754 2 месяца назад

    You are such a great documentary maker!

    • @antoniuvintila3754
      @antoniuvintila3754 2 месяца назад

      Still can’t believe the channel is so small, there is nothing like you out there. Keep up the Good work and Good luck!

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for the kind words!

  • @brendanmurphy3490
    @brendanmurphy3490 2 месяца назад +2

    my sweet son, would u ever be inclined to do a retrospective on the blue jackets 2018-2019 season wherein they squeaked into the playoffs amidst inevitable free agency losses and then kicked the record-setting Lightning in the teeth in the first round?

  • @YuiFunami
    @YuiFunami 21 день назад

    I can feel the pain from this season in my veins

  • @theawayfan6052
    @theawayfan6052 2 месяца назад

    I'm still not over 95' but this was an excellent video. The creativity with the license plate is very well done. Personally I felt like the music in chapter 1 was tremendous. All around, Great as always.

  • @MondBaum
    @MondBaum 2 месяца назад

    Great video mate, appreciate the Devils content, Keep up the good work.

  • @a_coleman11
    @a_coleman11 2 месяца назад

    this team marked the end of the devils run of sustained excellence from the 90s. 2012 was the last hurrah and we should have known.

  • @markus-fo2op
    @markus-fo2op 2 месяца назад

    you're blowing up man, keep up the great videos dude

  • @logann29
    @logann29 2 месяца назад

    mason raymond had one of the shootout attempts of all time

  • @luisantonio3406
    @luisantonio3406 2 месяца назад

    I grew up a devils fan and was at most of these home games during this year. I have always hated Kovi bc of his early retirement, but I didn’t realize how much I hated him until now LMAOO

  • @zenjustzen13
    @zenjustzen13 2 месяца назад

    the edits you're making on these and all the unique graphics are awesome. keep up the work

  • @BenKuyt64
    @BenKuyt64 2 месяца назад

    This story telling style is amazing, keep it up Graham.

  • @meltingresorts5629
    @meltingresorts5629 2 месяца назад

    Love the vidz, man. Recent hockey convert with a love for struggling teams so getting these deep dives of rough patches is a real treat. It's also a lot of fun learning about players I missed out on like Jagr or Brodeur. I may not always understand the stats but you do a great job of keeping it entertaining.

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад

      I'm glad you enjoyed them, thank you for watching! What can I do make the purpose of the stats more clear?

  • @AubreyChase7
    @AubreyChase7 2 месяца назад

    9:06 I happened to be attending that game. Given i'm a Flames fan, that game was an amazing experience.
    Especially since it was my first live Flames game

  • @BK0922
    @BK0922 2 месяца назад

    Pinholes Graham hockey dorktown ftw. Great vid bro

  • @ericb3593
    @ericb3593 18 дней назад

    Fantastic videos my man, would love to see a video about Patrik Elias or the Devils 2003 cup run in the future.
    I am of course a long time Devils fan and followed this season closely, but when you put it like this. I mean, I know we sucked in the SO but holy crap, that hurt us like insane.

  • @MSGVault15
    @MSGVault15 Месяц назад

    Tremendous video. As a Devils fan, this hit everything lol

  • @Ap0aps1s
    @Ap0aps1s 2 месяца назад

    I’m so beyond ready for this

  • @scoruja
    @scoruja 2 месяца назад

    Adding Jagr and two Newfies - an inspired locker room shakeup by Lou lmao

  • @AugustRosemary
    @AugustRosemary 2 месяца назад

    Best video yet dude, keep up the good work!

  • @jameskreisler6083
    @jameskreisler6083 27 дней назад

    Easily the best visuals you have done

  • @ashjubilee
    @ashjubilee 2 месяца назад

    what an amazing video. ur quickly becoming one of my favourite youtubers.

  • @robrusso5327
    @robrusso5327 2 месяца назад

    bro 😭😭😭 elite video

  • @michaelcorrado9416
    @michaelcorrado9416 2 месяца назад

    I stop my life when people pin drops a new one. Always respect ur work here bro. Thank you.

  • @SpencerWiles
    @SpencerWiles 2 месяца назад

    Sweet, sweet irony to close out a wonderful video!
    “Imagine if they had a guy like that…” 😂

  • @indierolls
    @indierolls 2 месяца назад

    This is so good! Genuinely the best hockey essayist on youtube. Is there any way I could get the name of the song that starts around 10:36?

  • @justinw3403
    @justinw3403 4 дня назад

    Would love to see one on the 2015 senators run with Andrew Hammond. Feel like that fits the mold of these videos well.

  • @filipnassen9076
    @filipnassen9076 2 месяца назад

    If you ever feel like making a video about the Penguins and not any of the Stanley Cup winning teams, may I suggest the 2000/2001 Penguins? It was such an emotional season. The return of Mario Lemieux, Jagr's last season on the Penguins, the last playoffs before Crosby and Malkin, the insane series against the Sabres... and of course the rise of Johan Hedberg. The Moose! As a swede I loved Hedberg.

  • @BearsBack2Back
    @BearsBack2Back 2 месяца назад

    Im sorry to point it out but 33:23 Game #58 says 3 - 2 Devils but it says L. Anyways fantastic video! You should do a Yesteryear 2010 Flyers.

  • @PSJukkis
    @PSJukkis 2 месяца назад

    NEW PINHOLES VID LESGOOOOO

  • @Colowkey
    @Colowkey 2 месяца назад

    Never clicked a notification on my phone so quickly

  • @spambeedop
    @spambeedop 2 месяца назад

    I think a video about the 2021 Dallas Stars season would be really interesting. It was absurd

  • @Hillbutton
    @Hillbutton 2 месяца назад

    How do you research these? Because there are even some that you can't have lived through, but you have an astonishing amount of first-hand accounts in these videos.
    Also, how do you choose which seasons to take as projects?

    • @PinholesGraham
      @PinholesGraham  2 месяца назад

      Research, research, research! History was one of my majors so I have a lot of practice grinding out primary resource retrieval and reading. And even then, there's still some stuff I miss because there's just so much to learn, I can't hope to get it all.
      As for choosing which seasons, I don't have a set process but I remember how I came up with the three Yesteryears I've done so far:
      2004 Avalanche: I played them in NHL 2004, which was my first-ever exposure to hockey. And growing up I realized how many storylines surrounded that team.
      1994 Sharks: Somewhere I read that it was both a massive roster turnover, AND the largest single-season turnaround in NHL history. I already knew about the upset over Detroit, so that was just the cherry on top.
      2014 Devils: This one I actually didn't know a thing about beforehand nor have any idea what I was looking for. I just decided to look for the best statistical team to not make the playoffs, and it was the '14 Devils. Reading further, I suppose it was just pure coincidence that it was also Brodeur's last season, Jagr's first with NJD, one with a stadium game, and of course the single-worst shootout season ever by a mile. I just got pretty lucky.
      The tidbits of the recently-departed Kovalchuk being the best single-season shootout man ever AND the Rich Peverley cardiac arrest indirectly contributing to the Devils' missing the playoffs were wonderful finds to me, which make the whole thing so much better. Makes we wonder if I'll ever stumble on something like that again! But then again, everything's interesting if you look close enough!

    • @Hillbutton
      @Hillbutton 2 месяца назад

      @@PinholesGraham Bachelor of journalism over here, so I can see and appreciate the level of work, and also the craft of structuring them into a narrative.
      What you're saying about kind of stumbling onto the 2014 Devils team and learning how dramatic the story was rings really true as well, especially in the journalistic sense- I grew up in Dallas in the mid '90s, so I watched the Stars glory years into the deadzone in the early '10s where they spent a couple of years looking for new ownership, and it always struck me that there was the same urgency and sense of narrative in the broadcast team and around the people who covered the organization day-in day-out, whether they were winning divisions in a walk or barely grasping 9th place, it was the same force of narrative driving things as the season wore on. I bet just about any season could turn up something like that with enough time and energy, and what you ended up putting together is kind of a treasure, I think. People lived through this, this was a shared year in a lot of people's lives, but when you don't win, it's completely forgotten by history.
      It's still really interesting to me where you're finding these things, though- because I look for old games all the time, but they're not well-archived, especially for non-playoff teams. Newspapers also have a part to play, of course. Is there anywhere else you've found to look?

  • @sawyertuide7636
    @sawyertuide7636 2 месяца назад

    The team who had 18 OTL. One where if you put 1 extra half decent goal scorer on, you can fool yourself into thinking they can just make the playoffs, but steal a series.
    Also 11:34 *cue endless vitriol from Oaklanders*

  • @wild_insomnia
    @wild_insomnia 2 месяца назад

    great video,pal,even if I'm Penguins' fan

  • @whosthatguy8396
    @whosthatguy8396 2 месяца назад

    ZIDLICKEY IS THE GOAT YOU WILL NOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THAT KING

  • @JustAnotherRailfan2026
    @JustAnotherRailfan2026 2 месяца назад

    Could you possibly do a video on the Predators 2016-2017 season?

  • @ls93780
    @ls93780 Месяц назад

    Oh gosh I’d completely forgotten about Damien Brunner.

  • @depressedpanthersfan6778
    @depressedpanthersfan6778 2 месяца назад +1

    average islanders shootout experience

  • @yeetermcgavin2132
    @yeetermcgavin2132 2 месяца назад +1

    33:17 I don’t know if it is a mistake, but on the NJD vs EDM license plate, you put an L when it shows New Jersey having 2 goals to edmontons 1

    • @gregcub3d
      @gregcub3d 2 месяца назад

      was just about to write about that

  • @andrewwindermere2425
    @andrewwindermere2425 2 месяца назад

    I now know why Greg Wyshynski hates the shootout so vehemently

  • @SpongebobArchives
    @SpongebobArchives 2 месяца назад +1

    My hottest take is schneider would have been a top tier goalie if he wasnt traded to the devils

  • @AvsJoe
    @AvsJoe 2 месяца назад

    Maaaan, New Jersey had long held the reputation of excellent defenses and goaltending carrying mid offenses to glory throughout the 90's and 00's but it's painful to learn that what should have been the shining jewel of Devils defensive dominance got torpedoed by an inversely inept offensive output. It's just... so Devils.

  • @connernokes-qy2rx
    @connernokes-qy2rx 2 месяца назад +1

    8:01 ah yes, ottawa is definitely in western canada 😂😂 sarcasm

  • @ericksheldon3870
    @ericksheldon3870 2 месяца назад

    20:52 WHAT IN THE HANK HILL WAS THAT??? 💀💀💀💀

  • @WildWilliamPlayz2
    @WildWilliamPlayz2 2 месяца назад

    I really want a playoffs past on either one one of the wilds 2003 series wins or the wild vs avs in 2014. Also 2 words: Zemgus Girgensons

  • @1bert719
    @1bert719 Месяц назад

    It's crazy to think that when Jagr finally retires and enters the HOF he wilbe the NHL's greatest journeyman. 😊 And seeing Brodeur in a Blues shirt still seems wrong all these years later! 😉

  • @myblasterproductions
    @myblasterproductions 2 месяца назад

    Let's goo

  • @mastadlo
    @mastadlo 4 дня назад

    Now do the Islanders third period blown games from last season

  • @presumablydeadarm
    @presumablydeadarm Месяц назад

    the terrible ot/so record, bad canadian road trip near the start of the season, and a blown 3 goal lead against the rangers in a stadium game all gave me flashbacks to last seasons islanders lol

  • @SgtHolton
    @SgtHolton Месяц назад

    Pretty crazy that they were so bad in the shootout, considering Ryane Clowe was actually a very capable shootout participant for the Sharks.

  • @MoonDragn77
    @MoonDragn77 2 месяца назад

    Brodeur's SV% in his last year was still better than the goaltenders we've had in the past few years...

  • @Kino-K
    @Kino-K Месяц назад

    I'll never forgive Kovalchuk for what he did to my team. After that season I burned my #17 jersey in the firepit. Absolutely insane that he just decided to quit like that. The next winter olympics made me hate him even more, but thank goodness for TJ Oshie on the American team.

  • @MrFlyersFreak
    @MrFlyersFreak 2 месяца назад

    Never clicked so fast in my life, LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @brickholas
    @brickholas 2 месяца назад

    Devils fans will watch this video and go "we still beat the rangers 4-0"

  • @Diljabar
    @Diljabar 2 месяца назад

    Zemgus Girgensons

  • @krog21
    @krog21 2 месяца назад

    49:25
    That is not true. When Jiri Fischer had his cardiac arrest on the bench in 2005, the game was postponed. The Predators were leading 1-0 at that point. When the game was resumed on January 23rd 2006, same thing, they played the entire game but the game started 1-0 Nashville.

  • @gabrielarrigo1525
    @gabrielarrigo1525 2 месяца назад +4

    Defence may win championships? Well, you still need to outscore your opponent to win the game.
    If you win enough of the right games, you win a championship.
    So I think winning games wins championships.

    • @JustARegularPylon
      @JustARegularPylon 2 месяца назад +5

      Genius, you gotta win games to win championship, it makes so much sense

  • @maxrates
    @maxrates 2 месяца назад +1

    The game had passed him by, and there was nowhere to go but down from here. Must have sucked for Marty.