CHAINSAW SHARPENING - PREP BEFORE A LOGGING JOB WITH KEN!

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
  • Getting ready the night before for a logging job with Ken.
    #firewood

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  • @XTheMuscleX
    @XTheMuscleX Год назад +1

    love this, no specific topic but a wealth of knowledge and tons of good tidbits in real world use cases for us Midwestern UP folks.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Thanks for watching!!! There is a new video every morning at 5:30 am and over 1100 on my channel!

  • @beerdrinker6452
    @beerdrinker6452 Год назад +8

    Your brother just taught me more about chain sharpening without talking than the last one hundred experts I have listened to. Thank you.

  • @thehairyhermitfromscooby-do
    @thehairyhermitfromscooby-do 3 месяца назад +1

    A 70cc class saw will cut the devil himself out of hell. By far the most common set up here on the west coast is 70 class with a 32” bar. If you work your cuts, that set up will put some BIG BIG wood on the ground. I do have a couple 90 class saws ready for certain strips and still have an old 084 with a 60" for the rare outlaw and nostalgia. Gauge file the rakers every 3rd or 4th trip through the grinder, .030 on the rakers for fir, .040 in alder. Cutting on the west coast except for being steep, beats your part of the world, especially in the winter. He wasn’t kidding, a knot in frozen wood is like trying to cut through glass. I don’t miss the bugs back there either.
    An older video, but a really good one. Thanks for having a good clean channel I can watch with the grandkids.

  • @chrisdaly3485
    @chrisdaly3485 Год назад +2

    Learn something every time. Thanks for the education

  • @craigwilson9560
    @craigwilson9560 Год назад +1

    You and Ken are a riot to be around! Great information on Sharpening with a file. Enjoy watching your video especially with Ken in them!

  • @toddsoutsideagain
    @toddsoutsideagain Год назад +2

    I must really like you two! I just watched Ken sharpen all four saws and was glued to the screen the whole time🤣 I too learned a lot about sharpening from watching Ken last year. Well done Sir Ken. See y’all tomorrow 👍🏻👍🏻GNI

  • @trcass1
    @trcass1 Год назад +2

    great video. really appreciated the conversations and tutorial from Ken.

  • @jburch1544
    @jburch1544 Год назад +10

    Kenny would be a good shop teacher if they still had them. Young people need this type of talk and instruction

    • @EcSsAwS
      @EcSsAwS Год назад +2

      Our shop teacher mr.Craig. Had 3 missing fingers 😂
      Sometimes I wondered how he became a teacher

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +2

      @@EcSsAwS Good friend is a metal shop teacher, he is only missing the ends of 1-2 fingers.

    • @gancubeboy7519
      @gancubeboy7519 Год назад +2

      im lucky my shop teacher teaches us all the good stuff like this

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Yup, he is no nonsense, just the facts, do it right and toughen up, life is hard, get used to it!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Haa!

  • @cut4fun50
    @cut4fun50 Год назад +2

    Fun video today, Ken's always a blast to be around. 👍
    Looking forward to tomorrow's video 😁

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Thanks Pat, tomorrow is his basement getting filled with wood and the next day is logging!

  • @aldredske6197
    @aldredske6197 Год назад +4

    Good morning Chris and Kenny!!
    Kenny, I'm with you 100% on the reasons for only running a 20 inch bar when logging here in Wisconsin. That's all I have run on most of my 70cc class saws and 24 inche bars on my 90cc class saws.
    Take care guys!! TTYL!!😀😀💚💚
    Logger Al

  • @davidpeterson9287
    @davidpeterson9287 Год назад +1

    Wisconsin pride!!!!! You guys make a young fella proud to be from the northwoods!!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Thanks David, what about the old farts??

    • @davidpeterson9287
      @davidpeterson9287 Год назад

      Lol the old farts give the young fellas a reason to be proud. Without you guys I’d have a lot harder time figuring things out in the woods!

  • @ishure8849
    @ishure8849 Год назад +1

    Gday ITWY, Merry Christmas to you and your family.

  • @Frank-db6oj
    @Frank-db6oj Год назад +2

    Great stuff guys Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @andrewsamanthamadison3320
    @andrewsamanthamadison3320 Год назад +6

    That should be a new woodyard motto and T shirt
    “If you’re not throwin big chips, it ain’t right”

  • @jasonmoncrieff7449
    @jasonmoncrieff7449 Год назад +1

    Great video Chris, a shorter bar also takes less time to sharpen. Love the channel and the honest reviews and advice you have.

  • @joskiwilsari9268
    @joskiwilsari9268 Год назад +2

    Great video

  • @chainsawFirewood89
    @chainsawFirewood89 Год назад +2

    Seem like this the Styhl chainsaws vapor lock alot more than other chainsaws especially during a real hot day!! Awesome 👍 video my friend!!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      I have had my saws (husqvarnas) do it too on very hot days, that's why I go to the woods with 3-4 saws.

  • @peterbabcock4568
    @peterbabcock4568 Год назад +1

    Cookie and wooden look great also another great video

  • @lendevonuk5479
    @lendevonuk5479 Год назад

    Well done Kenny! You illustrate that there is no substitute for knowledge, skill and confidence! All you say is accumulated over years of working with equipment, in the woods, and indeed good quality info for any wood hound. Presentation skills first class, always entertaining and a pleasure when you are with Chris…more of you two please! Hope you all have a wonderful Christmas. Len (Devon 🇬🇧)

  • @stevencounter4952
    @stevencounter4952 Год назад +3

    Hey Chris, I really like the way you & Ken work together! I have yet to sharpen my own chains! Ken made it look so easy, I think it was the motivation I needed to get out in the garage & start sharpening them! I will let you know how I do! LOL & GNI

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Just start an do not give up, practice make better not perfect!

  • @stephenjambard64
    @stephenjambard64 Год назад +1

    Kenny Carlson the Bionic Man! Don't worry Kenny we can rebuild you!!!

  • @savagefirewood
    @savagefirewood Год назад +1

    Remember the comments from a other RUclips channel regarding Eastcoast guys are a bunch of Sissy’s due to we use small bars . Then here comes the West coast guys with a 4’ bar. I loved the video that got back at that from Outdoors With The Morgan’s . Way to good. Cheers Chris n Ken always a pleasure to see you two together making videos. 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад +2

      I wouldn't call those guys sissies it's just a different world

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Yup, just different kinds of trees and conditions.

  • @centralmassoutdoors
    @centralmassoutdoors Год назад +2

    I still like to hand file. It works best for me. I agree with you guys as well, regarding hard woods in winter. I'll run a 20" or maybe a 24" on the 372 for the oaks, maple and hickory. If I want to stand up and buck in winter, I pick it up with the tractor.

  • @davidedwards3734
    @davidedwards3734 Год назад +1

    Great prep work. Ive seen some people file rakers from the same side!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

  • @rockkhound943
    @rockkhound943 Год назад +2

    Great episode. Lots of laughs . I have a hitch-mounted bench vise that I use for sharpening my chainsaw chains quick and easy and the vise can spin around any direction you need for sharpening. . I generally use mine in the shop but it's nice to have when you're out in the field too if you doll a chain you can run over slap it the Vise sharpen it and go on very handy to have

  • @haroldanderson2781
    @haroldanderson2781 Год назад +1

    Dude, you crop dusted your brother!! Priceless!! Getting cut on his fresh sharp job was karma. I’m surprised there was no gullet speak.

  • @canvasman2307
    @canvasman2307 Год назад +1

    Some days the big boys need to stay home. Lol. Enjoyed the dull chain sound effects and Kenny’s tailgate sharpening tutorial. Kenny needs a shop air purifier for Christmas.😂

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed it. The air was improved by me!

  • @billobermeyer660
    @billobermeyer660 Год назад +2

    Kenny is a character and the two of you are great together! I think Kenny will forget more about chainsaws with all his experience than most of us will know about chainsaws.

  • @crazyman3157
    @crazyman3157 Год назад +1

    Great video Chris, always learn something new from you guys. I am with you both when it comes to the bar length, 20” and a 24” work great for me as well. I am in Michigan for reference as to what species I cut. maple, oak, ash, and pine are the most common. When it comes to sharping, I keep learning every time I sharpen and I get a little better each time. 👍🏻 GNI

  • @albertarkwright3349
    @albertarkwright3349 Год назад +3

    Like the videos as always. Especially a Chris and Ken video.
    I just remembered where I have seen you two before... Bothers McCann from the film Secondhand Lions with Ken being Uncle Hub for sure.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Thanks for the kind words Albert, your comparison to us with them is an honor. Thanks.

  • @laurpaqu
    @laurpaqu Год назад +2

    you guys had me rolling on the floor laughing this morning. Thanks for another great video.

  • @markhowes126
    @markhowes126 Год назад +3

    On the smaller chips with wore back teeth it's just cutting a narrower kerf if it's cutting straight it's not a problem. I have even filed off the side of raker when teeth get wore back so they don't drag in narrower kerf. I must be doing something right. When my son who was logging at the time used one of my saws his comment was holy shit that saw is cutting good. I said it's just cutting like it normally does. I throw out the chain when I get back to the line on the tooth. Works good for me.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      I stop using them when they get about 2/3 used up and I am always glad to put on a new chain because it cuts so much better.

  • @FirewoodfromtheSawmill
    @FirewoodfromtheSawmill Год назад +3

    I agree with Ken talking about how hard frozen hard maple is. I live sw Missouri and we have oaks, hickory, maple and Osage. Most of us run shorter bars because of the hardwoods. White oak here will dull a chain faster than any other wood. I’ve seen vids of loggers out west and I keep thinking y’all need to cut some serious hardwood and see how that works for ya. Great vid and keep it up!

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +1

      Mn, Wi, Mi frozen hard Maple is bad dry dead Ash seems like it sucks up the bar oil leaving none on the bar besides dulling chains.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yes, softwood is....soft...like cuttin butter.

    • @JesseLJohnson
      @JesseLJohnson Год назад

      The only wood I have really noticed dulling chains here is ironwood. I guess some of the oak and hickory does too but I haven't noticed any worse then ironwood. Most of what I cut is ash, beech, ironwood, cherry, and maple but there is plenty other stuff. Some of that wild apple is pretty damn hard too. There is some I cut that was like fossilized lol. The bark had all fell off the tree standing figured it would make some real good firewood but it didn't burn all that well and it was like cutting a rock

  • @thefirewooddoctor
    @thefirewooddoctor Год назад +1

    Prepped my saws yesterday, except for the big 88xp. Installed the 24in lightweight bar on my 572xp. Holy cow! What a difference in feel and handling! For logging I'd probably use the regular bar as it doesn't tend to bend like the light bars do.

  • @Brian-Outdoors
    @Brian-Outdoors Год назад +1

    I only use 28” bars on my 592XP and 395XP here in Wisconsin. I run 24” on the 572XP, 20” on the 562XP and 18” on the 550XP. I agree big bars are just extra weight here in Wisconsin. Only run 28” as the silver maples are 5’ wide on some jobs.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Yup, bigger is not needed 99% of the time!

  • @jeanvaljohn3921
    @jeanvaljohn3921 Год назад +1

    Do they make good, better and best chains ?
    Do you two spring for the top of the line "super human" industrial grade chains?

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      They do make carbide ones but they are expensive and most people just run normal chains.

  • @adamlink7779
    @adamlink7779 Год назад +3

    Ken’s imitation of an old dull chain will run through my head any time I spend more then 4 seconds on a cut. Hahaha. 😵‍💫 Eeee😵‍💫 Eee 😵‍💫 Eeee

  • @bcnewfie494
    @bcnewfie494 Год назад +1

    good job , what brand of file does he use, i find the stihl files are 10 times better then the husky files, i run a 372 xp been my favorite saw and lasting the longest

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      We use what ever we get at the logging shows by the box (dozen) and I do not remember a brand???

    • @bcnewfie494
      @bcnewfie494 Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard very good yea i buy by the box as well but they are not cheap ha ha nothing is in the north or anywhere these days

  • @firewoodathome
    @firewoodathome Год назад +2

    👍👍 sage wisdom and crop dusting. Lol

  • @larryvankirk7423
    @larryvankirk7423 Год назад +1

    Nice job Kenny. Listening to the file song and understanding the words. Feeling what the file is telling you when it just quits digging. Seeing what happens when the tooth finally gets a sharp point. I'm guessing Ken could sharpen a chainsaw on a tree stump in the dark. Camera man was bleeding and leaving a vapor trail. GNI

  • @frontyardfirewood
    @frontyardfirewood Год назад +1

    What kind of gloves is he wearing? I remember my grandpa had those style back in the day, I think there was a bulls head for a logo?

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      There are several manufactures that make that style of glove, they are the Wells Lamont handy Andy model.

    • @frontyardfirewood
      @frontyardfirewood Год назад

      @InTheWoodyard thanks man, yeah that's them I guess it's a mule head in the logo. That's them for sure, it's been 30 some odd years since I seen those gloves.

  • @why-be-normal7014
    @why-be-normal7014 Год назад +1

    Great videos. I feel your pain I'm right there with u both.getting old suxs

  • @thefirewooddoctor
    @thefirewooddoctor Год назад +1

    Swapped a new chain onto my 550xp... it threw very nice chips for a few cuts and hit something. Sucks when you hit something with a new chain.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Yup, new chains are the best at finding rocks and nails!

  • @thomassellon1977
    @thomassellon1977 Год назад +2

    I wondered if anybody else used the Wells Lamont yellow flannel work gloves around saws. I see Kenny does. I can vouch for their low price, their complete worthlessness in wet conditions( they never made a waterproof claim), and their warmth in reasonable cold. I get them big enough to make a fist inside to warm up fingers after handling metal in bitter cold. Do NOT accidentally throw a pair into a load of wash! They are not color fast and will result in a wife madder than you really want to deal with! Keep up the good work fellas! You’re not getting older, you’re getting better!

  • @karivepsalainen5817
    @karivepsalainen5817 Год назад +1

    btw. Do you know that you can sharpen your files with ultra sonic washer machine? In my forest work I need just 13 inch blade. I have one 15" blade but it's too slow so never use it. About sharpening......I use now Dremel and its fantastic. Only time to time I use sharpening machine to keep both sides equal, so chain cuts straight. And I suggest to use Husqvarna quide for rakers althought its so slow. There is quide for soft wood and hard wood, and it really makes difference.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      I am guessing that you are cutting highly managed tree farms and cut perfect size trees that are grown in rows too? And mostly soft woods? We have a bunch of sizes and kinds of wood here. Yes, the Dremel works great and it is fast and easy to use. Keep cuttin'!

    • @karivepsalainen5817
      @karivepsalainen5817 Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard I am just thinning 20-30 years old plantations. Removing deciduous trees which have planted naturally, from conifer forests. Trees are something like dia 4"-10" at chest height and about 15m (50ft) height. It's like a jungle and soil is stony and rough. And you have to drag tree trunks by man power to the road side. Very hard work. Last logging site took 21 litres (5,5 us gal) gasoline with 42cc Jonsered cs2245s chain saw to get 22m3 (6 cords) firewood. So there is lots of pieces and light chain saw is best. Only bad is that these projects are not every year. I am logging only for my own owen as a hobby, not selling.

  • @DirtRoadLanding
    @DirtRoadLanding Год назад +2

    Great Vide! Chris, I've lost count to how many times I sliced open my fingers and hands on a sharp chain tooth while hand filing my saws. It was more frequent in the beginning when I was first learning to hand-file. Nowadays the cuts are rare but not gone. Keep up with the great videos.🇺🇸🪵🪓🌲🪓🪵🪓🌲🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +2

      I usually get the palm of my hand while reaching across the saw, same spot near every time.🤪

    • @DirtRoadLanding
      @DirtRoadLanding Год назад +2

      @@iffykidmn8170 yup. That to!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      You and me both!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Gloves!!!

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard I usually remember them right after I cut myself.🤪

  • @josephbrown-ut9ty
    @josephbrown-ut9ty Год назад +1

    First off let me say AWSOM video. Im cutting mainly oak in central arkansas and just bought a Sthil 391 20 in bar a cpl weeks ago , like you mentioned when your saw starts to get dull or you hit something it just STOPS cutting.....this big a saw is new to me as im self taught and have only ever run either a poulan 16 in or a Sthil 181 16 in bar....ive also recently bought a 18in bar Sthil and im liking it as well. BUT, i gotta learn to sharpen my own chains....local shop is charging $8 a chain to resharpen an i dont think they last near as long as a new chain. Anyway Thx again for the video.

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +1

      Thats pretty bad considering most new chain could stand to be sharpened before first use which many people do.

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад +1

      Practice makes perfect keep working on it

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, learn how to sharpen, you will be glad you did!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Yup, the rackers on new chains are always to high for me.

  • @saltrock9642
    @saltrock9642 Год назад

    Y’all are so much fun😂. I’m splitting in the rain today to catch up before the, rare for us, arctic blast hits later this week. Stay safe.

  • @brianrizzi6321
    @brianrizzi6321 Год назад +1

    I use Chris’s method with the Dremmel, so fast and can hit both sides of the chain at the same time. I also hit my rakers with the dremmel and try and keep the factory curve. Way less vibration than putting a flat file edge on the raker.

  • @edrurup8955
    @edrurup8955 Год назад

    Liking the North of 8 videos! Good job boys!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      More to come! Thanks Ed!

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад +1

      Hello Ed hopefully we can get over there and run your processor someday

  • @paulbishop5419
    @paulbishop5419 Год назад +1

    I run a 250 stihl and its plenty of saw for what i cut. Most trees here where i live are 4- 10” so a 18” bar is more then enough.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, for small trees a small saw is all you need for sure!

  • @scrhino40
    @scrhino40 Год назад +2

    Question for you chainsaw operators. How often should the rakers be file. Question 2 does the rakers affect the size of sawdust coming from sawing. Thanks Chris for sharing these videos with Ken. Have a great day be safe.

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад +2

      The rakers effect the depth of your cut which also is controlling the size of your chip

    • @williamklein6649
      @williamklein6649 Год назад +2

      On average rakers every 3 sharpening should be filed. Rakers or depth gauges are what controls the thickness of the chips. So yes it will throw a thicker chip when rakers AKA depth gauges are filed.

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +2

      Generally, about every two sharpenings but depends how much the tooth needs to be sharpened as rakers should be .025-.035 shorter than the cutter hardwood vs softwood frozen vs not frozen etc. Rakers will effect size of dust but you really want chips not dust so sharp chains.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      If your saw is sharp but not cutting good the rakers are to high and need to come down, but do not over do it, a couple strokes is enough and 3-4 is a lot.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup!

  • @huntermillbern5552
    @huntermillbern5552 Год назад +1

    I just ordered a new 572 xp excited to get it!! Hedge is mostly all I selll maybe a little oak and ash but 99% hedge. (Osage orange) have a 350 and 450 rancher huge upgrade for me. Also have a lil echo but

    • @jeanvaljohn3921
      @jeanvaljohn3921 Год назад +1

      Where are you that had that much hedge ?
      If you don't mind

    • @huntermillbern5552
      @huntermillbern5552 Год назад +2

      @@jeanvaljohn3921 south east Kansas. We have ALOT of hedge it’s crazy

    • @jeanvaljohn3921
      @jeanvaljohn3921 Год назад +1

      @@huntermillbern5552
      Am I eastern Iowa, western Illinois.
      85 % of our field trees are gone .
      Used to be called shelter belts in the 50's.
      Merry Christmas

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      You will like the 572 , more power.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, they are removing shelter belts everywhere, more tillable land.

  • @danielbenedict9236
    @danielbenedict9236 Год назад +1

    FYI files can be sharpened or at least renewed. There is a company Boggs Tool in CA that will "sharpen" them for a reasonable fee you just need to ship them. I usually wait and send a half dozen or dozen to them and they come back like new. Hope this helps others.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      We buy files at logging shows by the box and they are like $2 each so it is not worth fixing them, just grab another and go.

  • @JesseLJohnson
    @JesseLJohnson Год назад +1

    Do they still make Jonsered? There is RedMax now. I have one just a red Husqvarna. The one I have is a gz360 I don't know what the model is with Husqvarna but its the exact same saw. Its basically a top handle saw that is a rear handle. I got it wanting a nice lightweight saw that isn't some junk homeowner saw. Kinda want a Stihl 241 too to get a nice light pro saw think those are 40 or 45cc sure Husqvarna makes a pro saw that size too. My back can't take lugging around the big 65-80cc saws all the time especially when I don't always need all that. The last few times I got out the saws I just ran my little Echo top handle think its a 335t. I cut the trees down with the big saw and bucked them up with that little guy lol. Couple were good sized ash too.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Good questions, I do not know??? Yup, heavy saws get heavier every day!

    • @JesseLJohnson
      @JesseLJohnson Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard There was a Jonsered dealer real close to my house. They supplied a lot of loggers here. Seems a lot of them preferred them to the orange versions pretty sure they are identical saws. There is a Stihl dealer everywhere though. I only know of a couple Husqvarna dealers at least close by. There is some that sell both but have a bigger selection of Stihl. That big box tractor store Runnings sells both and they have all the pro saws and all not like most big box stores that only sell homeowner stuff. RedMax is more known for mowers but I think they have replaced Jonsered in the lineup. They don't have nearly as many models as Husqvarna but they probably have a dozen or so different models they offer. I like my Makita saws too. If you have a Home Depot that rents tools where you live you can find some really good deals. I have bought a couple of the DCS6421 they rent and they looked new other then they painted the bars orange. I have taken off the muffler and looked in there they def weren't ran much. They are a 65cc class pro saw though think they are in the $700 range for a new one and I paid $250 each for them. The thing is too though with those saws, they make I think a 70cc, 73cc, and 79cc saw and they all have the same bottom end and carb as the 65cc saw so you can make it an 80cc saw basically buy buying a piston and cylinder. They make aftermarket that go up to like 85cc too but I would only buy the factory stuff. I did it with one of mine and the 79cc saw is around a grand new I have less then half that in mine and its more or less new after I replaced the top end. They are bogged down a bit by the mufflers need to gut them there is some aftermarket ones out there too you can buy but if you gut the mufflers and weld them back together they really scream.

  • @jeanvaljohn3921
    @jeanvaljohn3921 Год назад +1

    Cookie and woodie
    Would make very nice end table tops with nice 14" diameter glass surfaces on top of them.
    And some sort of base.

  • @hardworkingmanoutdoors
    @hardworkingmanoutdoors Год назад +1

    Ken needs a new pair of gloves! His old/dull chain, chainsaw impersonation was spot on through lol.

  • @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
    @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Год назад +1

    @8:35 hahaha That's brothers for ya.

  • @gregprince2523
    @gregprince2523 Год назад +1

    You guys ought to talk about cutting that Ponderosa and Pinion pine in New Mexico last year on comparisons to the midwest species of our hardwoods...
    That one big Pondo had almost 4 full cords in it! Those Pinion pines would really eat the teeth off of chains!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +2

      Not much to say, the Pondo is like white pine and the pinyon is like dry jack pine???

  • @brucearney9536
    @brucearney9536 Год назад +1

    20 24 " just rite for me ! Everyones different , glad it works for them . 👍

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup.

    • @maddierosemusic
      @maddierosemusic Год назад +1

      I just looked at a Stihl 461 and the guy had a 34" bar on it. I shook my head. But I bought it anyway, and just ordered a 24". The 34 is so front heavy, it's ridiculous.

  • @DanielAtkinsFirewood
    @DanielAtkinsFirewood Год назад +1

    When my chains are done, every tooth is a different shape.. I have a file, and I am still learning 3 years later ..
    But just like Ken, I don't need perfect, just functional..

  • @gancubeboy7519
    @gancubeboy7519 Год назад +1

    i live on the oregon coast it looks like a different world over there the smallest bar we have on our saws is like 36 inches and there all like Stihl 500i's

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, most of our wood is hardwood and most cutting is in the winter when it is frozen wood and most trees(95%) are less than 40" so a 20" bar will cut anything and a 24" bar will cut a 48" tree, and there are not a lot or them here.

  • @coreyriley7160
    @coreyriley7160 Год назад +1

    G’morning Brothers. Excellent show today. Nice info from the real world pros. We know the chain speed falls from my Echo w/28”…..
    GoodNightIrene

  • @EcSsAwS
    @EcSsAwS Год назад +1

    I also prefer a 24. Just because I’m a short guy
    But more often than not. I’m using a 32 or 36” bar
    OE edition husky’s only. For 3 series. No strato charged saws

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      nice

    • @mikecolligan2829
      @mikecolligan2829 Год назад +1

      you might be surprised, the "auto-tune" saws really work well once you learn how to get them to tune themselves.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      @@mikecolligan2829 yup

  • @saleenmustang9793
    @saleenmustang9793 Год назад +1

    Ken needs to put in production of a bobblehead and the sound affect to go with them. Theyll sell like hot cakes 🎂

  • @kens.3729
    @kens.3729 Год назад +2

    I’ve had a few Disappointing Experiences with the Stihl Brand and have only Owned a Total of six (6) Stihl products so far. Proudly Made in the U.S.A. 🤔

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Stihl makes great stuff, I really like the 500, 462, 661 saws!

  • @annmariekowalski7505
    @annmariekowalski7505 Год назад +3

    Very nice filming and great educational content.
    Chris maybe Santa will bring you some Odor Eaters for your thong.
    Hope the logging job went well.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      I hope so! The logging job will be on real soon!

  • @Gideon_Judges6
    @Gideon_Judges6 Год назад +1

    That one saw that runs like freight train out of the box, we call that a "factory freak." That was NOT built on a Friday afternoon after a couple cervezas.

  • @febie1348
    @febie1348 Год назад +2

    So anything below a 60cc saw is what Ken considers a Weenie saw then? Always enjoy your videos.

  • @outdoorswithlarryrobin
    @outdoorswithlarryrobin Год назад +2

    Hello Guys, I have almost every sharping contraption there is, You idea of a Dremel Rules! Check out my 500i in a previous video, The Dremel turned it into a hot saw! Merry Christmas guys❄️🚜👍🏼🇺🇸

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      Good to hear Larry, less time sharpening means more time cutting!!!

  • @jimmieburleigh9549
    @jimmieburleigh9549 Год назад +1

    You and your brother needs a good high amp cordless Dremel tool with 2 extra batteries and the Oregon bits to sharpen chainsaw chains. Great at shop/yard or on a job site... Beats running a rat tail file especially when it's older.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      We both have them, I use mine all the time, Ken likes to hand file.

    • @jimmieburleigh9549
      @jimmieburleigh9549 Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard I was the same way like him until it sunk in I could sharpen 4 or 5 to 1 plus do both side as I go and bump the rakers as I go if needed.

  • @stannelson2582
    @stannelson2582 Год назад +1

    A 20 inch bar makes a fast saw ridiculously fast. Lol. Fun stuff. Ps I bet your house as kids was a total handful. Your poor parents I’m sure got tired of policing you and your brothers!

  • @gregprince2523
    @gregprince2523 Год назад +1

    New merch Chris..... Bobblehead Ken dash mounts!

  • @christopherhaak9824
    @christopherhaak9824 Год назад +1

    I can't tell for sure from the video, but your angle in relation to the bar appears to be far to shallow. It should be 30° +/- 5° depending on the specific chain. All modern chains have a witness mark on them to follow. Close to perpendicular is a filing for ripping which is rarely used for firewood. You get a much better cut from the corner of your chain whether it is full chisel or semi chisel with the correct angle.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Ken has been hand filing chains as a professional hand cutting logger for over 30 years. He knows what he is doing. He gets them sharp.

    • @christopherhaak9824
      @christopherhaak9824 Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard I understand, I hand file too, but those angles don't look correct. Just because someone has been doing something for a long time does not make it correct.

  • @keithmiller8993
    @keithmiller8993 Год назад +1

    My left knee is gimped up but not going to have it replaced. Can’t afford the down time

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      That is not good, eventually he all go down, gravity always wins.

  • @garykampmann8070
    @garykampmann8070 Год назад +1

    Quit smoking your brother out lol love the videos I watch them after I get off midnight shift before bed gni

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      It was just pay back, and I owe him a lot! Thanks for watching!

    • @JesseLJohnson
      @JesseLJohnson Год назад

      My 4 year old niece tried it on me on Thanksgiving. She was sitting on the floor in front of me playing and she looks up at me and says I farted. Then a few seconds later she looks back up with a look of disgust. A little more then a fart came out lol. It was a gas and a liquid

  • @kenmckeecma
    @kenmckeecma Год назад +1

    Great videos, thanks! Do you regularly use metal detectors? Could you and Ken, make a metal detector video for us, the wanna be firewood groupies?

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      No, just on the wood he gets from the mill that is rejected because it has metal in it.

  • @samskeeter1
    @samskeeter1 Год назад +1

    Chris have you not tried to get your brother using an electric sharpener?

  • @PineInTheAshMilling
    @PineInTheAshMilling Год назад +3

    Kenny did you feed that boy cabbage?

  • @randybarnes3870
    @randybarnes3870 Год назад +2

    You need a bandaid or your mama love it😁

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Nope it was not that bad! I will live! Ha!

  • @beerdrinker6452
    @beerdrinker6452 Год назад +1

    Hot Heat. Sounds like my Danish GF that I should have married. Great video. Thank you. Always interesting and informative content.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, our dad says that so we use it some times too!

  • @Garrett572xpg
    @Garrett572xpg Год назад +1

    Don't forget to grease the bar tips also. Otherwise the sprocket will wear out fast

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +1

      If there is grit in the grease hole it forces it into the bar tip, I have found over the years that there is not much difference in longevity.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      We do once in a while, I do it when I flip the bar usually after changing chains.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, I agree, I do it once in a while just because I was told to???

  • @mikecolligan2829
    @mikecolligan2829 Год назад +1

    why don't you guys flip your bars over after sharpening? i try to every time, unless out in the woods.

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад

      I change out when I put a new chain on

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      What Ken said...I flip it with each new chain.

    • @mikecolligan2829
      @mikecolligan2829 Год назад

      @@InTheWoodyard lol i can make a chain last a long time, 20 or more sharpenings. might only be 7 days, but the bottom of the bar might be quite toasted by then after a few nail encounters in there. just personal experience. :-)

  • @daringermain4474
    @daringermain4474 Год назад +1

    Why do you not mention the winter/summer door opening mode that most chainsaws have. At least in NW can. Have

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      I guess because we never use it. Never had a need to, we just cut.

  • @gregprince2523
    @gregprince2523 Год назад +1

    Kenny I was wondering why the green cloud surrounded the tailgate!!

  • @tonybunch543
    @tonybunch543 Год назад +1

    👍

  • @adammoggysawmilling5164
    @adammoggysawmilling5164 Год назад +10

    For you guys who run your chain back to the line because you're cheap like me when you're tooth is back halfway sharpen it with a size smaller file than you usually use puts a hook back in your gullet my father cut in the bush his whole life and taught me that..GNI

  • @markmcminn5100
    @markmcminn5100 Год назад +1

    Great work. Thanks!! But.. making people breath your spent smoke is sooo disrespectful. But smokers never think about that. Both my parents smoked... and I grew up breathing that.

  • @vincedee6607
    @vincedee6607 Год назад +1

    Ken is your chief executive in charge of sound effects.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yes, he is god at it!

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад +1

      You're not the first one to say that evidently have good sound effects whatever

  • @bentwedgestanleybrand5818
    @bentwedgestanleybrand5818 Год назад

    Good morning from Piqua Ohio.

  • @davidcarrow6851
    @davidcarrow6851 Год назад +1

    Ken's knees are bad but his nose works good

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      I was just making sure all his senses where working right! Ha!

  • @rickthelian2215
    @rickthelian2215 Год назад +1

    Your both sharper than the saws 😊

  • @TonysCoolTools
    @TonysCoolTools Год назад +1

    Nice Job boys, hey Kenny you can go on “aerial disability” if you work with Chris a long time.
    As you know he just stands or sits there with his s#%t eating grin and laughs as we’re gagging.👍TCT

  • @jlhaslip
    @jlhaslip Год назад +1

    Good morning to all the Wood Yarders out there on the InterWebs.
    Hey Chris, did you forget your Dremel or is Kenny allergic to New technology?
    GNI

    • @iffykidmn8170
      @iffykidmn8170 Год назад +1

      Kenny even has the bigger battery Dremel, I cannot get use to the Dremel after 45yrs of using a file.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      He like the file and is good at it so, that is what he uses.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, if it works, it works.

  • @shannonjanes2434
    @shannonjanes2434 Год назад +1

    I'm embarrassed Iv never filed my rakers!

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад +1

      You are about to find out how a saw should cut! 2 strokes is all you should start with, do not over do it.

  • @danahasson2892
    @danahasson2892 Год назад +1

    A lot of these guys would cry if they seen some of the chainsaw chains I throw away. Time is money. I tell my guys if they hit any metal, rock or anything else like that just throw away that chain. I buy the chains by the case and usually 3 or more cases at a time.

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Yup, if it works for you and you have better results, go for it!

  • @JoeH-qu5mv
    @JoeH-qu5mv Год назад +1

    I like chocolate chip cookies

  • @jasonsahrle5448
    @jasonsahrle5448 Год назад +1

    I wanna know what Chris is smoking?!?!? Lol 😆

  • @iPhil77
    @iPhil77 Год назад +1

    @19:49, On the tooth life, what’s the count of teeth that needs to be done for a complete new chain? Is it 5 teeth or more to go with a new chain?
    The explanations that Kenny is giving are worthwhile and detailed about the cutting results.

    • @williamklein6649
      @williamklein6649 Год назад +1

      Kinda a loaded question. If you asked 5 people you would get 5 answers. Some would say file them to the line on the cutter. Some would say once your tooth is 3/4 gone time for a new chain. You have to remember Ken is a production cutter/faller. What he is saying time is money more time falling is less production at the end of the day also he made a point about wear and tear on the saw and fuel consumption all means a lot in production. The slower your chain cuts the longer the cut takes more fuel and wear and tear on the saw and your body. If your felling 8 or 9 hours a day you want your saw at peak performance, that’s why Ken takes multiple saws in the woods. One gets dull he grabs a new one. If a guy is cutting one tree say 10 inch out of his backyard an older chain isn’t as important to him if it takes him 5 or 10 mins longer he still gets the job done and saved 35 bucks on a new chain. Personally I toss chains when there about 3/4 gone before I get to the line on the chain. Hope this helps. Peace

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      Ken would say it depends on how it is cutting and if you cut enough you will know and if you only cut a little it does not matter.

    • @iPhil77
      @iPhil77 Год назад +1

      @@williamklein6649 I know that, but I’m still curious about what Ken’s thinking on the chain lifespan is.
      I know that it would depend on the person’s perspective on the situation in chain life.

    • @kennethcarlson8713
      @kennethcarlson8713 Год назад

      @@iPhil77 it depends on what you're doing I mean every job is different

    • @InTheWoodyard
      @InTheWoodyard  Год назад

      @@williamklein6649 Well said William!

  • @ChrisLascari
    @ChrisLascari Год назад +3

    1