5:48 - Siôn Jenkins's conviction was eventually quashed. He's now a free man. He tried to get compensation for being jailed for 6 years, but lost: www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug/15/sion-jenkins-billie-jo-compensation "Jenkins, 52, was jailed in 1998 for the murder of his foster daughter, Billie-Jo Jenkins, 13, who was beaten to death with a tent peg at their home in Hastings, Sussex, in 1997. The conviction was quashed on appeal and two retrials ended with juries unable to reach a decision. It was clear the legal avenues had been pretty much exhausted and no further retrial was ordered. Jenkins was found not guilty and released. He remarried and now lives in Hampshire."
The father that killed his daughter would have been okay with the boyfriend having suspicion and sending him to the gallows. Deceitful and betraying the entire family for his own selfish desires. Hurting his own child, his daughter,that relied on him for guidance and protection.Then rules the family with an iron fist, and can't even control himself from adultery...pathetic father.rot in jail.burn in hell.
The bus driver enjoyed his moment in the spotlight getting close to the family, knowing where the police were at & being part of the action. A lot of self importance & keeping tabs on everything thinking he wouldn't get caught. Very manipulative
What a better way to get information and find out exactly what the police know by befriending and gaining the family's trust. Unfortunately for Vickers the sick fuck the police are always suspicious of supposed witnesses who insert themselves into the investigation because they normally have ulterior motives and they actually get off on gaining the family's trust and tormenting them. Grooming is just as exciting to them its like a peadophile's version of foreplay and they also love to try and prove they're far more intelligent than the police and can get away with it. We should bring back hanging for peadophiles and rapists fucking scum of the earth they are!
I am so silly, I fell for the old mans sobbing in front of the press, pleading for the return of his daughter and I thought it was the boy friend, cuz he was showing no emotions, how we all can be fooled
Goes to show that looks can be deceiving and we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. I mean, those that may appear shifty or unkempt may be in the most sorrow of grieving process and not sure how to deal with a totally new situation in front of cameras etc.
How he could kill his daughter, lie repeatedly and act as if nothing happened, is shocking. There has to be something with this man and this family. I don't think anyone goes from nice normal person to a hammer murder liar in an instant and is able to act as if nothing happened.
Right!!! And who murders someone just to cover up an affair?! I'm not saying an affair isn't a big deal but to murder someone *(your own daughter!!!)* over your spouse finding out? Good God!
And the fact that they say she was very close to her dad more than her mom..then he kills her because she was gonna rat him out?..I think there is more to this
This T.v Program needs updating, Billie-Jo Jenkins was murdered at the family home in 1997. Siôn Jenkins was charged with the murder and later convicted, but always maintained his innocence of the crime. An appeal in 1999 against his conviction failed, but after a second appeal in August 2004 it was quashed by a court as unsafe and he was released on bail pending a retrial. The juries in two retrials were unable to reach verdicts, and a not guilty verdict was recorded in 2006.
It was the father! wow, I really didn't see that one coming! As for Jamie's case, it is absolutely terrible, sickening, tragic and the family must have gone through hell but I do have to say that an 8 year old should not have been left alone to go off as far as a bus station and play by themselves and this would be the reason why; there are some sick, sick fucks in this world! the cctv footage of him following Jamie into his bus is chilling!
My daughter is almost 16 & I have only just allowed her to get the train!! Not saying it was the parents fault but to assume that an 8 year old is going to be wise enough to spot danger is a bad choice as was proven! & in all honesty, the bus driver coming forward to ‘volunteer’ the information that he was the last person to see him should have raised suspicion from the off…. mother’s instinct would say to me ‘how would you know you were the last to see him unless it was because it was you that harmed him’ & then the odd behaviour in regards to “wanting to help so much” would be a red flag because that is just not a normal way for a MAN to behave! Blokes just aren’t like that, blokes shy away from stuff like that! Sorry to generalise/stereotype but that’s just how they are! A mum acts that way towards another mum because they have that ‘mum instinct’, an affinity towards another mum! To still not believe Vickers was odd even after the police arrested him is just weird (forget the detective saying that the parents were in denial, there’s being in a state of denial & there’s being developmentally delayed or maybe just naïve!!! Extremely frustrating 😏😏😏
@@starsstripes2393 don't be so sure about that. Abusers like Flemmimg have no empathy in the them those tears were purely for the media and to get sympathy so no one would suspect him.
What Mother Let's a child go out wondering the streets and then at 8 am say! so it's probably just still playing and not ring the police till 10 oclock omg when my children were 8 years old they was with me or those playing with friends in my house or in my garden they wasn't and if my children was missing at at 4 would have been absolutely frantik because I would have been checking on my child all the time
8:09 Vickers grabs the arm of Jamie's brother as they cross the street in what was probably meant to look like a protective gesture, but it looks strange. I wonder if anyone picked up on that.
I was about to comment on that myself! I think it's one of the problems/dangerousness of having some videos circulating without further updates... I don't know who killed his foster daughter, but it's part of justice that ALL the decisions are broadcasted so that the public know nothing is always crystal clear from the first look. Justice is human.
I'm no lawyer but a finding of not guilty does mean that person is not guilty or is innocent, at least in the eyes of the law. Now whether they are guilty or not in reality is a different story but that works both ways as there are plenty of innocent people behind bars. This is why you cannot be charged twice for the same crime-you've been found not guilty. There are appeals but that involves the original charge.
because someone is found not quilty don't mean they're not quilty.it means there is not enough evidence or reasonable doubt.and how did he say he got blood splatter on his clothes.sorry if this is slander so sue me but i think the sob is quilty.he let's a young child ride on his but for over 6 hours while his parents are looking for him.he had to know they would be worried so if he was this big goody goody friend why didn't he call them to tell where he was so they could come get him?
You mean the same press that re'edited a video to make him look like a liar, the press that said Trayvon on top of George pumping his arms up and down doesn't mean he was hitting him; was manipulating the press?
Remember the jamie lavis case very well I'm from Manchester and thought he was dodgy from the start he liked the attention too much and so glad he was found out.
@oh9meow Maybe, but you see the photos and video footage and people saying how close they were and how she was a 'Daddy's Girl'... you don't fake a lifetime of that. What's much more likely is that Daddy's girl wasn't doing what Daddy thought she should, the argument turned ugly and then he didn't want to go to jail. People get it in their heads that because someone commits murder, then lies about it, they must be a terribly evil person, but there's normally more to it than that.
Darren Vickers is a sick twisted little bastard, he knew what he had done and to then pretend to help and insert himself into poor Jamie's family is just so bloody evil
IF the father hadn't admitted to a ything, would they still have had enough evidence to arrest him and prove him guilty?? I always read about murderers admitting so quickly, but what if they DON'T admit, EVER?
The police had forensic evidence on Flemming he confessed so he could plead guilty to a lesser charge like manslaughter if he says it wasn't intentional or they had a row that got out of hand then he'd serve a few years and be free whereas cold blooded murder means a long prison sentence
5:16 wheres the seatbelt ? from shauns car ? that alone tells you more than anything.If theres blood on the inside of the belt = he saw billie BEFORE he took the kids to the DIY store - if its clean his story that he found her is essentially true ,no blood was found except on his fleece ,so the seatbelt ( destroyed by police ) is integral to the case.
@oh9meow - "I think if he was truly remorseful he would have called the police" You've got to be joking. 1. Confessing an act can be a result of remorse but by no means is it a requirement. You can regret an act but not confess it. 2. He clearly loved his daughter dearly for over twenty years. You're completely disregarding that. Would it be because you don't like to think regular people can commit murder (by part accident or otherwise) and try to cover it up? Well, they can, and do.
@mlc2005 He WAS convicted in !997 and received a life sentance. He was found guilty 3 times of her murder then he was equitted after serving 6 yrs.. people still believe he is guilty.
@Skindoggiedog Maybe but I think if he was truly remorseful he would have called the police, its telling that he only confessed when faced with evidence, and went to great lengths to cover up the crime, and thus causing his family more pain... if his tears are real, then i believe he was crying for himself.
Many of them fail by asking compounded questions like "Did you see the child? Did you speak to them?" - "No" they answer, but what are they saying no to? No to not speaking with the child? Or no to not seeing the child? A lot of people evade answering questions this way. For example, he could have very well saw the child, grabbed them, knocked them out, raped them and murdered them without ever uttering a word to the child. This allows him to confidently answering "No" in a convincing manner to those two questions, but secretly only replying to one
I'm a parent of 2, and I find that they world or should I say are quick to look at the actions of parents first, which is fair do's if something wrong is going on, not all parents are bad or evil, but neither are all parents angels or a gift from God, you get good an bad in every race/colour/religion, yet I would rather keep my eyes on my kids at all possible times, I can't do owt when they are at school/with friends, I wish, parents would do almost anything to protect their children!!!!
Well I know,but thats not really the point.I used to go out&play all the time when I was a kid (this wasnt that long ago,i'm still young) I hated being in doors and both of parents are great parents, if my mum had stalked my ass constantly it woulda pissed me off and if i had got kidnapped, the last thing I would want anyone to do is start questioning my parents!! In this case the boys family got worried long before he was probably even getting hurt,letting ur kid go out n play is not a crime.
I'm not trying2turn it in2somethin nasty,i simply get pissed off wen people always start at th parents as if th parents wantd it2happen or something!Unless th parents actualy did somethin2the kid,u cant blame parents,its jst not fair as if they dnt hav enough2deal with,losing their kid&all.Anyway theres cases wen a child goes missing from basically right undr their mums nose,from their own home or garden,parents allowing their child2play all day outdoors has nothing2do with it,pedos r th problem
And some people say there is no such thing as good and evil, an all seeing eternal God or Satan the destroyer. These and many more like them are evil to the core. God will judge them and they will spend ETERNITY in hell.
Really whats the point in having a go at the family? Some kids like to be out playing not like nowadays where most of them sit inside getting fat n playing playstations!!
I just looked it up, and the foster father of Billie Jo was NEVER convicted of her murder. I think it is important to know that. It is somewhat disturbing that this documentary claims his guilt even though he was never convicted. Hmmm.
@cockywatchman1976 I said PEOPLE still think he is guilty I didn't said I do..he may have been aquited but there was reasonable doubt, so he was found guilty, they found blood splatter on his clothes not consistant with just "holding" someone, no one knows the actual truth only him.
@oh9meow "its telling that he only confessed when faced with evidence, and went to great lengths to cover up the crime" It sure is! It tells you that he was pretty serious about not wanting to be put in jail. Lots of people would have done, and do, the exact same thing. It doesn't mean they never loved their daughter. It doesn't mean they didn't regret it. It just means they were willing to go to lengths to avoid jail. He cared for her and she for him. You don't just get to dismiss that.
yeah but look at where its got them, I agree its a healthier life style being out doors, yet its not safe, thats the issue, too many sick f...ks in this world, too many get away with it
look jog on and preach to those who wishs to know what you have to say, I've had enough, life will teach you, until then just me alone to have my own opinion, to which you are NOT invited to join in,
I don't know why it seems you are trying to turn this into something nasty, like you have your opinion, I have mine, you are lucky being of a western culture, I was born in this country and very little freedom as a youngster, and I don't hold that against my parents, I actually am grateful, children should be allowed some freedom, yet not to the point they need to wonder the streets at such a young age, they have their life ahead of them, each to their own, I'm glad to be brining my kids up
This documentary should be re-released with the Sion Jenkins story removed as he was subsequently acquitted. I have to say that the motive given was pretty ridiculous and the timeline didn't really make sense.
@Skindoggiedog ok, i enjoyed bantering with you so far, but that comment is un called for... i would never ever happen upon killing anyone, let alone my own child... and if i did even by an accident; i.e car car accident, or even if she fell ill, i would 100% kill myself to join her. conversation closed.
@ThomasAUSTRALIA1 I agree with you it is helps :-) You were just feeding a troll. Keep your coolface on. :-) You are absolutely right about the negligence, then again, I guess I could count the mother's IQ on my hands. Children are just left roaming around on a bigger scale that we would like to imagine.
thank you, nice to know I'm not the only one who feels its important to keep our kids safe, kids will be kids
I wish they did more programs like this.
5:48 - Siôn Jenkins's conviction was eventually quashed. He's now a free man. He tried to get compensation for being jailed for 6 years, but lost:
www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/aug/15/sion-jenkins-billie-jo-compensation
"Jenkins, 52, was jailed in 1998 for the murder of his foster daughter, Billie-Jo Jenkins, 13, who was beaten to death with a tent peg at their home in Hastings, Sussex, in 1997. The conviction was quashed on appeal and two retrials ended with juries unable to reach a decision. It was clear the legal avenues had been pretty much exhausted and no further retrial was ordered. Jenkins was found not guilty and released. He remarried and now lives in Hampshire."
The father that killed his daughter would have been okay with the boyfriend having suspicion and sending him to the gallows. Deceitful and betraying the entire family for his own selfish desires. Hurting his own child, his daughter,that relied on him for guidance and protection.Then rules the family with an iron fist, and can't even control himself from adultery...pathetic father.rot in jail.burn in hell.
He was a pathetic looking man too
The bus driver enjoyed his moment in the spotlight getting close to the family, knowing where the police were at & being part of the action. A lot of self importance & keeping tabs on everything thinking he wouldn't get caught. Very manipulative
What a better way to get information and find out exactly what the police know by befriending and gaining the family's trust. Unfortunately for Vickers the sick fuck the police are always suspicious of supposed witnesses who insert themselves into the investigation because they normally have ulterior motives and they actually get off on gaining the family's trust and tormenting them. Grooming is just as exciting to them its like a peadophile's version of foreplay and they also love to try and prove they're far more intelligent than the police and can get away with it. We should bring back hanging for peadophiles and rapists fucking scum of the earth they are!
I am so silly, I fell for the old mans sobbing in front of the press, pleading for the return of his daughter and I thought it was the boy friend, cuz he was showing no emotions, how we all can be fooled
I thought the younger guy because he looked shifty...
It only means you are very empathic but a bit naive, wish to see the best in people
Goes to show that looks can be deceiving and we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. I mean, those that may appear shifty or unkempt may be in the most sorrow of grieving process and not sure how to deal with a totally new situation in front of cameras etc.
@Make Me Believe Balanced, logical approach👍
Same I think everyone did
_"And so it was that Flemming then changed his account and said, 'oh, well... I must have returned home... twice'."_
Sion Jenkins was eventually found not guilty of killing Billie Jo, cleared of all charges.
How he could kill his daughter, lie repeatedly and act as if nothing happened, is shocking. There has to be something with this man and this family. I don't think anyone goes from nice normal person to a hammer murder liar in an instant and is able to act as if nothing happened.
He only served 13 years and was released, #MikeWilliam -- equally incredible, her mother continues to live in the same house ;-
Right!!! And who murders someone just to cover up an affair?! I'm not saying an affair isn't a big deal but to murder someone *(your own daughter!!!)* over your spouse finding out? Good God!
And the fact that they say she was very close to her dad more than her mom..then he kills her because she was gonna rat him out?..I think there is more to this
maybe just the son and father covering up for him ?
poor jamie and his family so sad!!!
Is Amazing how Husbands kill their Wives for another woman.
And the same goes for those women who kill their husbands for another man.
@@g13flat but it's far more common for men to kill their wives. Two women a week in the UK are murdered by a current or ex partner.
Meh, women do the same.
Zil Osorno right.....just say you want a diverse....simple
@@sophiejameson4064 Your source please?
Bickers is like the arsonist who comes to watch the fire engines put out the flames.
Far worse in that the family's grief will have been greatly increased by having invited their son's killer into the heart of their family.
This T.v Program needs updating, Billie-Jo Jenkins was murdered at the family home in 1997. Siôn Jenkins was charged with the murder and later convicted, but always maintained his innocence of the crime. An appeal in 1999 against his conviction failed, but after a second appeal in August 2004 it was quashed by a court as unsafe and he was released on bail pending a retrial. The juries in two retrials were unable to reach verdicts, and a not guilty verdict was recorded in 2006.
Sion was interviewed not once did he say anything bout finding the killer it all bout him slef. I think he did kill Billy-jo
Most of your comment is pasted, which is fine, but it makes the tiny bit you wrote stand out. How do they 'update' the program?
Sian Jenkins was interfering with billie jo...I think she threatened to grass him in,so he had to stop her.
It was the father! wow, I really didn't see that one coming!
As for Jamie's case, it is absolutely terrible, sickening, tragic and the family must have gone through hell but I do have to say that an 8 year old should not have been left alone to go off as far as a bus station and play by themselves and this would be the reason why; there are some sick, sick fucks in this world! the cctv footage of him following Jamie into his bus is chilling!
Yup!!
My daughter is almost 16 & I have only just allowed her to get the train!!
Not saying it was the parents fault but to assume that an 8 year old is going to be wise enough to spot danger is a bad choice as was proven!
& in all honesty, the bus driver coming forward to ‘volunteer’ the information that he was the last person to see him should have raised suspicion from the off…. mother’s instinct would say to me ‘how would you know you were the last to see him unless it was because it was you that harmed him’ & then the odd behaviour in regards to “wanting to help so much” would be a red flag because that is just not a normal way for a MAN to behave! Blokes just aren’t like that, blokes shy away from stuff like that! Sorry to generalise/stereotype but that’s just how they are! A mum acts that way towards another mum because they have that ‘mum instinct’, an affinity towards another mum!
To still not believe Vickers was odd even after the police arrested him is just weird (forget the detective saying that the parents were in denial, there’s being in a state of denial & there’s being developmentally delayed or maybe just naïve!!!
Extremely frustrating 😏😏😏
Sitting with the family on the couch, yuck
RIP Billie Jo, Jamie, Tia, Holly and all the children whose lives were stolen ☮️
6:07 he was later cleared of the murder conviction
Seriously I think that Flemming WAS upset about not having his daughter anymore/having killed her. Those were real tears, in my opinion.
I agree, I only think he did it because he felt desperate,the daughter was gonna spill the beans,there was no hate there.
@@starsstripes2393 don't be so sure about that. Abusers like Flemmimg have no empathy in the them those tears were purely for the media and to get sympathy so no one would suspect him.
Darren Vickers basicly trapped himself
Just like ian Huntley,sticking his ore in getting camera time like the do-gooder.
@@starsstripes2393 yup sand Maxine is out now aint she
joy got out years ago
What Mother Let's a child go out wondering the streets and then at 8 am say! so it's probably just still playing and not ring the police till 10 oclock omg when my children were 8 years old they was with me or those playing with friends in my house or in my garden they wasn't and if my children was missing at at 4 would have been absolutely frantik because I would have been checking on my child all the time
8:09 Vickers grabs the arm of Jamie's brother as they cross the street in what was probably meant to look like a protective gesture, but it looks strange. I wonder if anyone picked up on that.
Sick sick people 😡😡
Jenkin's wife has left him and took the kids, says it all.
I was about to comment on that myself! I think it's one of the problems/dangerousness of having some videos circulating without further updates... I don't know who killed his foster daughter, but it's part of justice that ALL the decisions are broadcasted so that the public know nothing is always crystal clear from the first look. Justice is human.
Darren bickers looks like Stuart hazell's brother
Sion had his case overturned.
Yeh I always wondered if it was Levi bellfield !
I'm no lawyer but a finding of not guilty does mean that person is not guilty or is innocent, at least in the eyes of the law. Now whether they are guilty or not in reality is a different story but that works both ways as there are plenty of innocent people behind bars. This is why you cannot be charged twice for the same crime-you've been found not guilty. There are appeals but that involves the original charge.
8pm and the family only THEN does his Mother call police..... From CCTV footage Jamie wasn't with his family or anyone safe ALL DAY. OUTSTANDING!!
The busdriver didn't act strange, he acted so normal!
Vickers should not be released
Dude. What's the picture of him with the family with no shirt on?!😱
11:42 the murderer sitting between the parents = an insane situation
9 times out of 10 it’s either the partner or one or more of the children or a friend or in this case good old dad or mum.
But why did the foster father killer billie-jo? I'd like to know the motive behind that one.
Sion was released on appeal.
I'm still not sure about shawn Jenkins.
because someone is found not quilty don't mean they're not quilty.it means there is not enough evidence or reasonable doubt.and how did he say he got blood splatter on his clothes.sorry if this is slander so sue me but i think the sob is quilty.he let's a young child ride on his but for over 6 hours while his parents are looking for him.he had to know they would be worried so if he was this big goody goody friend why didn't he call them to tell where he was so they could come get him?
No sound at all....should have persevered with those lip reading classes
thomscn, your comment made me roar with laughter!!! hysterical.
6:08 "Like many killers, he thought he could escape justice by manipulating the media and the police." WOW is she talking about George Zimmerman?!
You mean the same press that re'edited a video to make him look like a liar, the press that said Trayvon on top of George pumping his arms up and down doesn't mean he was hitting him; was manipulating the press?
Remember the jamie lavis case very well I'm from Manchester and thought he was dodgy from the start he liked the attention too much and so glad he was found out.
Derick Fleming got released after 14 years
Wat the fuck that’s crazy
jenkins conviction of Billie joes murder was quashed in 2006.
@oh9meow Maybe, but you see the photos and video footage and people saying how close they were and how she was a 'Daddy's Girl'... you don't fake a lifetime of that. What's much more likely is that Daddy's girl wasn't doing what Daddy thought she should, the argument turned ugly and then he didn't want to go to jail.
People get it in their heads that because someone commits murder, then lies about it, they must be a terribly evil person, but there's normally more to it than that.
Darren Vickers is a sick twisted little bastard, he knew what he had done and to then pretend to help and insert himself into poor Jamie's family is just so bloody evil
@oh9meow "i would never ever happen upon killing anyone, let alone my own child."
That's exactly what he would have said.
Bye now.
IF the father hadn't admitted to a ything, would they still have had enough evidence to arrest him and prove him guilty?? I always read about murderers admitting so quickly, but what if they DON'T admit, EVER?
The police had forensic evidence on Flemming he confessed so he could plead guilty to a lesser charge like manslaughter if he says it wasn't intentional or they had a row that got out of hand then he'd serve a few years and be free whereas cold blooded murder means a long prison sentence
5:16 wheres the seatbelt ? from shauns car ? that alone tells you more than anything.If theres blood on the inside of the belt = he saw billie BEFORE he took the kids to the DIY store - if its clean his story that he found her is essentially true ,no blood was found except on his fleece ,so the seatbelt ( destroyed by police ) is integral to the case.
Brimstone & Treacle
@oh9meow - "I think if he was truly remorseful he would have called the police"
You've got to be joking.
1. Confessing an act can be a result of remorse but by no means is it a requirement. You can regret an act but not confess it.
2. He clearly loved his daughter dearly for over twenty years. You're completely disregarding that. Would it be because you don't like to think regular people can commit murder (by part accident or otherwise) and try to cover it up? Well, they can, and do.
Well sometimes they don't really need to do they. It shouldn't take weeks.
6:02 TOO calm
@mlc2005 He WAS convicted in !997 and received a life sentance. He was found guilty 3 times of her murder then he was equitted after serving 6 yrs.. people still believe he is guilty.
Wow that bus driver what an evil man he is
@Skindoggiedog Maybe but I think if he was truly remorseful he would have called the police, its telling that he only confessed when faced with evidence, and went to great lengths to cover up the crime, and thus causing his family more pain... if his tears are real, then i believe he was crying for himself.
Vickers is creepy in the cctv
well said mate.
The son looks SOOOOO suspicious......I knew he was involved in killing his mother
Lol journalists are like cops. When you're practised in interviewing many many different individuals, you must gain a knack of sussing stuff.
Many of them fail by asking compounded questions like "Did you see the child? Did you speak to them?" - "No" they answer, but what are they saying no to? No to not speaking with the child? Or no to not seeing the child? A lot of people evade answering questions this way. For example, he could have very well saw the child, grabbed them, knocked them out, raped them and murdered them without ever uttering a word to the child. This allows him to confidently answering "No" in a convincing manner to those two questions, but secretly only replying to one
I'm a parent of 2, and I find that they world or should I say are quick to look at the actions of parents first, which is fair do's if something wrong is going on, not all parents are bad or evil, but neither are all parents angels or a gift from God, you get good an bad in every race/colour/religion, yet I would rather keep my eyes on my kids at all possible times, I can't do owt when they are at school/with friends, I wish, parents would do almost anything to protect their children!!!!
Divorce maybe?
as I feel safe to do so, period
Did they ever get her real killer?
Well I know,but thats not really the point.I used to go out&play all the time when I was a kid (this wasnt that long ago,i'm still young) I hated being in doors and both of parents are great parents, if my mum had stalked my ass constantly it woulda pissed me off and if i had got kidnapped, the last thing I would want anyone to do is start questioning my parents!! In this case the boys family got worried long before he was probably even getting hurt,letting ur kid go out n play is not a crime.
I'm not trying2turn it in2somethin nasty,i simply get pissed off wen people always start at th parents as if th parents wantd it2happen or something!Unless th parents actualy did somethin2the kid,u cant blame parents,its jst not fair as if they dnt hav enough2deal with,losing their kid&all.Anyway theres cases wen a child goes missing from basically right undr their mums nose,from their own home or garden,parents allowing their child2play all day outdoors has nothing2do with it,pedos r th problem
I don’t know how I knew and not finished watching, normally would suspect the boyfriend but guessing it was her dad 🤔 will see if I’m right
@gregbobsgirl its the north !
And some people say there is no such thing as good and evil, an all seeing eternal God or Satan the destroyer. These and many more like them are evil to the core. God will judge them and they will spend ETERNITY in hell.
Siôn Jenkins, no smoke without fire
Really whats the point in having a go at the family? Some kids like to be out playing not like nowadays where most of them sit inside getting fat n playing playstations!!
Vickers dug his own grave 😂😂
I just looked it up, and the foster father of Billie Jo was NEVER convicted of her murder. I think it is important to know that. It is somewhat disturbing that this documentary claims his guilt even though he was never convicted. Hmmm.
He defenately did it .. his body language is yelling .. i killed her .. that's obvious
@cockywatchman1976 I said PEOPLE still think he is guilty I didn't said I do..he may have been aquited but there was reasonable doubt, so he was found guilty, they found blood splatter on his clothes not consistant with just "holding" someone, no one knows the actual truth only him.
@oh9meow "its telling that he only confessed when faced with evidence, and went to great lengths to cover up the crime"
It sure is!
It tells you that he was pretty serious about not wanting to be put in jail. Lots of people would have done, and do, the exact same thing.
It doesn't mean they never loved their daughter. It doesn't mean they didn't regret it. It just means they were willing to go to lengths to avoid jail.
He cared for her and she for him. You don't just get to dismiss that.
Is this the same moors as Myra hindley and her partner done the murders
@mlc2005
look it up again he was given life
What a bastard at 5:53........
His conviction was overturned and he was released.
"Aching" ... lol
Not convinced billiy Jo dad killed her
yeah but look at where its got them, I agree its a healthier life style being out doors, yet its not safe, thats the issue, too many sick f...ks in this world, too many get away with it
look jog on and preach to those who wishs to know what you have to say, I've had enough, life will teach you, until then just me alone to have my own opinion, to which you are NOT invited to join in,
He is a very lucky man having two women they must be desperate he is no Brad Pitt and he is evil 😈
I don't know why it seems you are trying to turn this into something nasty, like you have your opinion, I have mine, you are lucky being of a western culture, I was born in this country and very little freedom as a youngster, and I don't hold that against my parents, I actually am grateful, children should be allowed some freedom, yet not to the point they need to wonder the streets at such a young age, they have their life ahead of them, each to their own, I'm glad to be brining my kids up
Wow 😲 the father this is shocking and a true delusion narssasist
Well you are laughing hee hee hee :)
This documentary should be re-released with the Sion Jenkins story removed as he was subsequently acquitted. I have to say that the motive given was pretty ridiculous and the timeline didn't really make sense.
@oh9meow - "still those tears were for himself "
If you happened to kill your daughter somehow one day, would you only ever cry for yourself?
Wow!!! He had to write down what he wanted to say...... most people don’t write it down
Many do so, maybe if they are too upset and in chock it is better to write down what you have to say
@Skindoggiedog ok, i enjoyed bantering with you so far, but that comment is un called for... i would never ever happen upon killing anyone, let alone my own child... and if i did even by an accident; i.e car car accident, or even if she fell ill, i would 100% kill myself to join her. conversation closed.
Vickers is an idiot for doing what he did. If he'd said nothing, the case might have become cold.
Anthony Kernich says the wannabe murderer .. clearly.... nice sympathy for his victim... wow... killer in the making ?
Wtf taking the side of the killer
@@taliboulton906 I know right who the hell takes the side of the killer
There there there! hee hee LOL
does derek know you XD
Bus driver!
I was enjoying dat... u didnt finish..it was good thou
There you go again describing yourself LOL LOL
@ThomasAUSTRALIA1 I agree with you it is helps :-) You were just feeding a troll. Keep your coolface on. :-) You are absolutely right about the negligence, then again, I guess I could count the mother's IQ on my hands. Children are just left roaming around on a bigger scale that we would like to imagine.
quilty lol dont u mean guilty i think somebody needs to go back to school
Awwww don't be so hard on youtself LOL
dead
That is what I told yer mum LOL
You still insulting yourself? LOL LOL
BOO HOO