JT urges people to ditch the 'she'll be right' attitude | Wide World of Sports
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Seeing Thurston break-down like this is something seriously wrong with peoples mindset..mental health is a serious matter!!good on ya JT someone has to deliver the message
Depression is part of life ...some dont make it out the other side
@@stuartryan9035 brilliantly said. The movie has so much relevance as to what’s happening in society today
Lol
@@stuartryan9035 Well said. A great educated response. You have hit the nail right on the head when you identified the structure of western society being the problem.
@@lukem2260 Yes that's right. And the elephant in the room is that you don't have to be depressed to commit suicide. Some people just want to get off the boat.
It's hard to see JT not smiling. RIP Greenie 🙏 thoughts and prayers to his family and friends. From the New Zealand NRL fan base
Since he retired, every time I listen to JT I get more impressed. Whether it is him being happy interviewing people or serious as with the current subject. JT is bigger than rugby league and as a great communicator, he has the potential for further greatness as an inspiration in saving lives with his message.
Rest in Love Champ, thank you for your service in Rugby League and on this earth. 🤝
JT an immortal and an absolute legend of a bloke
immortal how ridiculous. 🤔
Agreed
Massive respect to JT
days of “harden up” are gone! RIP greeny 🙏🏾
Huge respect JT for fronting up and getting this important message of mental health out to the community.
JT I’m with you …for so many years I was like I’m fine I’m all good …late last year I hit the bottom and decided I needed to talk to someone …I’ve been seeing and talking to a psych for 7 months and feel my life back on track so I agree talking is the best option
Well done Sally, such a courageous move. The hardest part is to admit to yourself and someone else that you have a problem. The second hardest is taking the steps to address and hopefully confront it in a positive way. Best of good health to you and yours.
I've been through depression, it's a nasty one, there is actually a spiritual element to it at as well. I may need to write a book on that someday.. RIP! JT is a champion of League, big heart!
I guess it's extremely hard to tell when someone is in a dark place, when they come across like everything is totally fine. It has been said that, 'suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
Some people suffer from depression every day ...its not something u can just switch off .
U can have all the money in world ,but if u got depression ,none of that money can fix u
@@lukem2260 One of the ways is to just keeping listening. Take every word they say seriously. Don't laugh anything off just in case it actually is serious. Always check. And be caring and loving.
Those who seriously want to kill themselves can't be stopped. They will hide and lie, but they do give clues. There are signs. Don't beat yourself up if you miss them, just learn from it for next time.
Some problems are permanent.. Like certain chronic illnesses (mental or physical) where meds can only do so much. Or extreme trauma that doesn't go away despite therapy.
JT showing his emotions will help immensely for anyone that watches this.
It takes a man to show vulnerability to wake people up.
Male suicide is the real Pandemic in the world
Its all part of the plan ....
@@madlad8629 if u dont understand my comment ..then u dont understand whats going on in the world at moment ....
@@madlad8629 watever dude .....u do u 👍
Well said mate . Sorry JT for your loss and I don’t know how Paul came to this . Condolences to his family just a tragic situation
100%. We never know do we? It's such a dangerous illness. We just don't understand it.
I reckon the stress of coaching they (the people behind the scenes) put on them is too high.
When the black dog is barking, very little else is heard. One of the tragedies is that you feel, you know no-one else can help. It becomes that cut and dry. That's when courage to ask for help often eludes us.
Please, all lovers of this great game and knowing the impact that mental health can have , life and death, don't throw the dummy pass, throw the perfect pass to a mate and connect. My psychiatrist of over 25 years knew my family and knew we were high achievers and (most probably) over thinkers. Don't get me wrong, bad stuff happened, but the why? why me? why? is the ultimate threat when you keep loading on those questions. Here's the answer that saved my life, took 61 years to arrive, it is what it is. Life. It reduced my thought processes down to two simple questions: is this good or bad for me? Good meant taking the next step forward with hope and caution. Bad meant STOP. RED LIGHT. No energy in that direction and if you do, reach out.
True blue, and maroon and all the colours that make up this great sport.
Turn to Sweet Lord Jesus xxxx Hallelujah
"She'll be right" has changed meaning. It used to mean chin up and keep fighting, it will turn around. Now it means "nothing matters".
We need to ditch the newer meaning and get back to the original meaning and not think it in a shallow way. Life is tough. Let's not be flippant about that. Let's be compassionate and careful to listen.
And we also need to remind those who are struggling to talk. Don't put all the pressure on those who aren't struggling. Let's all work together to help each other.
And if you're reading this and need someone to talk to, I would love to listen and help however I can. Publicly or privately. I know what it's like to struggle. I know the importance of having someone to listen.
I honestly never thought of it that way, but I 110% agree with you, it DOES mean "nothing matters" when I hear it used these days.
Kia Kaha bro, and everyone out there.
I think Gus knows what transpired before Greeny took his own life… hence his comments. Greeny lived for the game and was let down by a decision based on rugby league 24-48 hours before he took his life… it wasn’t the only thing that brought him to where he was but it absolutely played a part. A business decision that was taken personally …. This happens unfortunately in life but always look after your mates.
No, I don't think Gus knew. He's just a smart guy thinking about the situation generally. He's not implying anything specific. He's making the general point about how we should care for each other. If you care for someone or respect them, tell them know now. Don't wait and then regret it because you didn't say something you could've.
@@GrahameGould you don’t think Gus knows about the verbal offer Greeny received and later withdrawn?
@@npd6225 That wasn't your only claim and wasn't the part I disagreed with you. I'm disagreeing with your comment "hence his comments". And you might be right but that's not how it sounded to me.
Maybe he's implying it indirectly but his focus is not on the specific but to broaden the topic out to how we can all move forward and help each other generally.
He should’ve lived for his family!
@NPD Curious to know, what was the offer that was withdrawn?
As a man we need to never stop incouraging the next generations of young man and women that it's ok be vulnerable and open. To express compassion for ourselves and everyone. Because the harder we are the faster we crumble. The future is where man and women know that gentleness is the true strength in this world.
We need a mixture of men ....not just 1 case fits all .
Hard men to do hard work ,,soft men to work in office .....
We cant have our cake and eat it .....depression is part of life ...
Yes we need more resources for men to reach out to ....but not all men feel need to reach out .
Poor Mental Health is one of the greatest threats to our society and needs to be taken very seriously by everyone.
Well Done to JT for delivering that message with such sincerity and courage.
I have lost friends from suicide, I have been depressed myself for long periods. Reading some of these comments shows we have a long way to go before mental health is treated with the seriousness it deserves. I hope no one has to experience the darkness of depression but maybe some of ya’ll are too thick to understand something without experiencing it yourself. R.I.P greeny!
Well done JT you are a great father a great mate a rugby league legend and more important a great Man for speaking these words take care
this was a tough watch man.
After watching this ....greeny was loved by many ...
Depression is a silent killer ...
Some people suffer everyday ....
Alot of people feel that same way .. it doesn't make sense why this has happened which is why it's so hard to accept. Understand there were disappointments recently perhaps more than we realise but on the surface, it looks like this really could have been averted.
JT absolute Champion on and off the field.
Rest easy Paul xx
From a NSW fan and watching JT carve up over those 10+ series... Champ!
With all due respect, why is everyone assuming this particular case has ANYTHING to do with rugby league. Its a very sad time but to assume the NRL or league has anything to do with the passing of this very successful man is very shallow. It could have been a contributing factor but it may have been something so much more personal. Maybe family problems, maybe health maybe anything but rugby league. Stop examining and re examining this very sad story and leave the man to rest in peace and more importantly let his family get on with their lives!
It has everything to do with Rugby League and every other area of life. If we see looking after each other as core to everything we do, we can help improve this.
Paul Green lived for be a good player and then a good coach. He seems to have found his value and meaning in success, and had received to very serious knocks to his confidence as a man and coach at the Cowboys and then even worse at Qld.
And then it seems that he received another knock recently and felt he had nothing to live for.
Which is very sad since he left behind a family. The source of his depression/hopelessness/whatever should have been recognised by someone in the NRL and the QRL, and even the Cowboys, and they should have checked on him. And I'm not saying they didn't. Maybe nothing more could have been done but that seems highly unlikely.
And I don't say this to blame anyone. Just like I don't think that was Gus's point either, or anyone else's. It was just some honest introspection and reflection on how important it is to keep an eye out on each other.
@@GrahameGould
You have missed the point entirely of what I wrote. You obviously have never experienced deep depression or involved with people like this in your occupation. Read my comments carefully and learn how to comprehend my message.
Furthermore let the man (and his family) have peace
Much respect JT, very important message.
‘We need awareness for these types off things so they don’t happen in the future ‘… seriously this guy is being paid. Beggars belief Gallen has a voice in the media.
Been helping some brothers out myself who’s going through or been through depression but would never drag their names across social media even if I was well know ✌🏼
Even as a New South Welshman, i struggle to hate J.T, his the most loveable bloke. Sorry for all those affected by the loss of Paul. Rest in Peace.
Why should you hate anyone simply because they don’t play for your team? That just makes you a pathetic loser, let alone the players for the clubs and states aren’t even often originally from those places.
Most QLD PLAYERS are arsholes
JT and Greeny are liked by all blues
EVER.......DAMN THAT HITS COLD
Some people will do it regardless of how many people ask them if their ok sadly. I know from experience.
It will always keep happening ..
Thank you J.T. x
Does anyone hear a faint?? "Yep" @ 6:56 after Gus says "if he can hear that now"
I agree with jt. I always,always ask my mates if everything is okay, depression is a silent killer, I went to through a short period after my dad died, thank God my my beautiful wife and my mates helped me through, please, please ask people you know if they are okay
I don't mind Gus, but he really misses the mark here. Great message from JT, and excellent handling from Gallen and Bracy, but far out tough listen from Gus.
Well said JT. We are all in shock.
Paul was being Hypnotised to shut you up.
and that's exactly why JT's the GOAT!
You'll never beat it. I can count 7 men who suicided and they all had one thing in common. Not one of them gave a hint of what they were going to do. Not one.
You're right to an extent, there will always be some. I like to think that we will soon be living in a time where at least 1 of those men would have felt comfortable asking for help and not consider himself weak or a burden in doing so.
I don't think it is just Rugby League, it is in all walks of life there was a suicide at my son's school a couple of months back, a 15 year old girl, people hide their feelings from family and friends so well it can come as a complete surprise and it is just so devastating and truly silly thing to do.
Well said jt it's good to see a legend like yourself and channel 9 doing this but it should be more up to the nrl government and the other hierarchy also well said gal
It's tragic 😥 but no matter what, you never do that somewhere that your kids can find you. He has just passed on his demons to his kids.
I agree with every thing JT said well spoken , mental health is a silent killer and is a serious matter ...
And so what are all you people doing for Finch at the moment? Nothing. In fact no that’s wrong, you’re condemning and gossiping. Hypocrisy and empty platitudes. And that’s why people suicide because they know people are full of it and if they did “reach out”, no one wants to listen, despite what you say now. Especially women, who loathe weak men. Try telling your long term girlfriend you’re depressed and see what happens, hint, it’s not what they say with their empty platitudes, they’ll run a mile. Mates? Not interested, all they want is for you to entertain them, they don’t want to hear depressing stuff, it bores them and they think you’re a pain. My wife suffers depression and it doesn’t matter how much you console, she will find something to be depressed about, one thing resolves another one starts. Only advice I can give is - and I also suffer depression since age 14 - life is not perfect and it is your wanting for things you don’t have, be it material or emotional, doing this to you, and it is all nonsense. In the end, “she’ll be right” is too simplistic but actually pretty wise, because it will be, and you are telling yourself it won’t be. Telling men to be more like women, to cry and talk, is nonsense that women and ex sporting stars say because they’re told to, it’s the going advice, the latest thing. You must be and find yourself, and pretending to be a woman will confuse matters to no end.
I always thought greenys jerseys looked way to big on him small dude that had the biggest heart I didn't know him but ya could just tell he had a big heart
4:43 JT getting very emotional
It makes me sick that society paints men in a way where they get vindicated for speaking about their feelings and can’t speak out, mens health matters as well
I think you mean vilified, not vindicated. And excellent point in that case.
Try talking about mental health as an Aussie male.... good luck with that, hey. Gus is spot on - tell people whilst they're alive. As for Gallen's helpful "not everyone can handle it" comment...
wears everything on his sleeve
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JT....... you are ALL class!!
David Smith he needs to go to class and get educated. That's why JT laughs all the time because he doesn't know what to say, worst commentator ever
RIP man, this is really sad
Yer thats it' hard on people. Sum love pressure some dont. But its a real thing.
Mental health is huge issue, bigger then ever before I think. God bless Paul Greens soul, rest in peace great man.
Well done JT.
I hope you have found peace Paul. We all understand your choice, although some may not accept it, it was your choice and that is 100% fine.
Listen to your sport heroes and actors, they know what's best.
😅🤣😂
Pull ya head in
Love you JT! ❤️
Let us never forgot all our fallen Brothers, those who were dragged through the torture rack of the family law courts and didn't make it out the otherside, they lost everything worth living for, lest us forgot, our fallen Brothers!
agree with gallen
Suicide is sadly common for professional athletes post their careers. Very prevalent in American sports. More needs to be done by different sporting administrations
Head impacts and depression is strongly linked and we hear to many people who make this decision and end their lives in contact sport. More research necessary and time we took longer for players to recover from this injury - Might not be THE reason but it all contributes to these situations
That back wall says everything about this man
Thank you JT.
JT: A God in football and in life!
❤😢
jt the goat
This should be a wake up call to anyone who hasn't realised, that we are sooo far off where we need to be as a society.
The fact that we can't detect or predict.. it's one thing for people to check in and offer a shoulder and hand... but the stigma around opening up is still significant to the extent that people feel they can't talk about these matters and need to just toughen up or swallow it and not burden their loved ones until the point where they feel they need to escape despite knowing how badly it will hurt their family.
Who designed our society ??.
That answer should open pandoras box .....
@@lukem2260 The people... a society is dictated by those within it.. the community itself. They are the ones who vote the leaders in to power to make decisions for the society they are in. The ones leading the country get in to power by advocating for what they believe the majority of their community or society want... whether they deliver is another story.
If something is frowned upon or praised, that is the result of a majority of people.. and thus education and development will shift our views... like it did with racism, sexism and many other cultural issues.
@@maxpower5573 so who designed our government system with a 2 party system that cant be penetrated ....???
Oh and why does 1 group of people own %80 of the media .???
@@maxpower5573 those that control the information givin ,controls the perception of the mind ...
Covid was a great example of how easily u csn brainwash the masses ..
@@lukem2260 I don't know if you're trying to get an education because you really don't know or you're trying to make some sort of argument. If it's the latter, it's unclear what your point or stance is. If you want to know the origin of the 2 party system, go research it. As for the media being dominated, it's due to certain individuals e.g. Rupert Murdoch monopolizing it, but this isn't like North Korea where we are told what to believe and say and act... there are independent media sources - even more so now with the internet. People are free to voice what they want, they can choose left leaning media or right or even parts of both...
What does this have to do with my original post saying society needs to strive towards correcting the situation and stance against acknowledging it's short comings around mental health and victims ability to assist others in helping them prevent and or overcome it?
The life of a human not a footballer not anyone it’s humanity
Love to know the names of the “7/8 guys” that Phil Gould knows who committed suicide
RIP Greeny 😭😭
I get what he's trying to do but yeah nah ima keep subscribing to the "she'll be right" attitude
No Sharing of Feelings. Stop Fuelling Stories and Find A Standard. Who Is To Blame / Be Detected For Your Thoughts / Motives ? Resist the Devil, Draw Near To Al God, Give No Place To Demons, And the Devil Shall Flee !!!
I only use "she'll be right" for the glue on me worn out joggers and when the empty petrol light comes on 8ks away from home.
Green's wife and children have to live with this for the rest of their lives. Who's thinking of their mental health now and for the foreseeable future??. His selfish action destroyed everyone.
irrelevent info u just wanna hate for attention
Poor JT😭
The saying "she'll be right" is perfectly fine to say. It's a saying all Australians say. Don't blame the saying! There should be no blame. What a copout.
You’re a bit of a fool mate. Don’t take what he says as literal as possible…you think JT is blaming a saying?! Some people really cannot read between the lines at all.
They Lord Jesus wisdom Hallelujah
Suicide after sons birthday. He needed to live for his family.
Nah she’ll be right mate
Jesus Christ is the Key. Green had knowledge of Jesus but he chose to deal with his demons on his own. And look where that got him.
Spiritual Attack ,turn to Lord Jesus xxxx Hallelujah
And everyone knows it.
Stick to football JT, you are out of your depth with this one. A wife and two beautiful kids.
What? He was close friends with green he has a right to express himself
Just stick to footy mate and forget politics and feel good stuff.
Why did he commit suicide?
Depression.
Only Jesus can set you free
Ultimately, yes.
Absolutely. Without the message of the Gospel, I would be a statistic.
What if he was gay and all this manly stuff and maybe hearing what his old team mates thought about it put him over the edge.
Bit of a stretch mate.
Don't speculate nonsense. Unless you know for certain it's irrelevant. Stick to facts and not associate other issues with the issue at hand.
Ok, you should probably stay off your phone champ
We could come up with a million "what if's"
But his not gay ...green is a real man .
So stop with ur fairytale stories