A lot of people didn’t care so much about the matches. What happened backstage, the comical stuff and all the drama in between is what made the show interesting.
it was everything else besides the matches that made the attitude era great. there’s a reason why backstage clips and whole filmed segments are still fondly remembered not just the in ring stuff.
People watch clips of old Rock or Austin promos and act like the attitude era was 100% that. You had characters like “beaver cleavage” about a mom banging her kid
@@thenationofdefecation7969 it just has to be said bc some fans ( cough cough) don’t get what makes a good wrestling show, and just have matches that are thrown together to get the approval of some guy that writes reviews.
Exactly. He wrote in like a TV show. Why have a 15 minute match with commercials interrupting anyway when you can fit two matches and a promo in that time? Save the 15 minute matches for the commercial free PPV.
@@jjalkman1999Austin left the company for the same reason. They wanted ppv shit on free tv. WWE is only hot for one reason right now, everyone wants to see this dragged out Roman reigns run come to an end with what was a two year build up with Cody. Thank fuck the rock thing changed.
Even with those shorter matches, everyone felt like they mattered in some way. The mid-card guys were over, the main eventers were over, everyone had a place and a storyline, and it just felt incredible.
@@lyrikalkilla433let's say the top 5 guys are Rock, Austin, HHH, Taker, Kane. Edge was one of those midcard guys in the tag scene with Christian the Dudleys & Hardies. Dudleys definitely bring food to the table Then there's guys like Foley, Val Venis, Godfather, Big Show...
That's why people PAID for the ppvs and live events Where they would have long matches. Now wwe has these long drawn out matches showing a replay 3 or 4 times just to try and kill time.
@@csl9495yeah it’s clear someone stopped watching the product awhile ago lol. Nowadays you get like 30 min promos and only like 3 matches on the card lol
And now matches are so long and drawn out with false finishes that you feel like it's going to take a gun to end the match. The story is everyone kicks out of everything all the time... Great story
What made the attitude era so great was that we were all so invested in the characters and stories, we didn’t need drawn out matches everyday. These short matches were just used to push the stories all the way to the main event or PPV payoffs
The attitude era was awesome to me because everyone from Crash Holly Dlo and Mideon were given a story and made to feel important. Like Game of thrones every Character mattered.
I prefer the shorter matches to what we have now, a 3 hour ppv with 2 matches and a bunch of talking. I've been rewatching attitude and he exaggerates, most matches are closer to 10 minutes and that's plenty of time to do your thing and not bore people
Going to be honest, these day I watch the entrances and then skip to the last 3 mins of the match. Every time… so yeah..I’d be fine if we went back to the attitude era
This is why the WWE’s RUclips channel are one of only a handful with the most subscribers & view counts in the world. Fuck sitting through a 3 hour Raw these days when you can literally watch the individual highlights that are uploaded immediately after they’ve just been on TV or you can just go on there later on when even more videos of the show get uploaded.
Tbh, shorter matches are more realistic. Real fights only last a few minutes. Plus modern attention spans are shorter anyways. I prefer shorter matches & more backstage segments.
@@DreadPages you are ignorant AF Pinning another man's shoulders on the ground for three seconds may take up to three hours that's why old matches from the 1800s took an hour or more LEARN YOUR HISTORY MARK
My perception of the attitude era was that everyone was a superstar. Everyone was so entertaining that the guys that were on the bottom of the totem pole didn't feel like jobbers. Crash Holly was a trip. He was so paranoid trying to protect the hardcore title. People tried to pin him in his sleep. A fan pinned Crash Holly, and the referee counted that ish.😂 Fun times.
The Attitude Era gave us some of the best matches! The TLC 1&2, stone cold v rock, both v HHH, undertaker v Foley, money in the bank, guerro and angle. Sone people here are tripping
The shorter matches on raw is war and then smackdown was probably to save the wrestlers from possible injuries going into PPV’s so it was smart from the writers team to do that. It all depends on what part of the show it was, it was allot of mix and matches, some matches were short, some were longer
The thing I liked about the quicker matches was when a finisher was hit they stayed down. Now a finisher has the same effect as any other move. Which just leaves me thinking the move sucks not that the guy kicking out is tough.
Lets be honest we loved the "tna" and comical.moments but those "full matches" def use to be 10 min at the most anything longer than that was a beat the clock challenge or literally the main event
Alot of people...myself included don't like those long boring drawn-out matches 😒 1 minute and 8 seconds is a bit crazy id have to agree on that but I mean yeah once in a while at a PPV or something have a 20 or 30 minute match with the right people but for the most part 5-10 minutes was perfect 👌
Exactly. As with most things in life, the best lies somewhere in the middle. Back in the day, the old TV title matches were either 10 or 15 minutes, and guys like Arn, Tully, Steamboat and Regal had zero problems putting on an entertaining match even if it was a time limit draw.
The only matches that should go over 15-20 minutes are wars for the title or grudge matches between 2 workers that can get it done between the ropes like GUNTHER or Dragunov. Everyone else is better in a sprint. 8-12 minutes is a sweet spot. Work on your character, promo, & backstage spots. That's when wrestling is at its best.
The reason the matches were short was because there were so many characters the fans loved idk just my perspective I haven't really watched wrestling since attitude era
The matches where not ment to be the story. You did great stories,that's why we really did not mind short matches on RAW and smackdown. The matches that where stories where on the PPV's
I will zone out halfway through 20-minute matches every time. To be fair, I do have ADHD. But I sat through the movie “Talk to Me” the other night and I was riveted the entire time. Maybe 20-minute matches just aren’t captivating to me.
I don’t know, but I haven’t been this excited for wrestling in a LONG time since Rocky came back. I just wish Edge and Christian was still there. Christian has been stellar as a heel in AEW, and I’d love to see the Rated-R Superstar back in full force. They’d be an absolute threat if they came back and joined up again, with how more Rocky’s been saying whatever he wants despite censors.
@thenationofdefecation7969 for EVERY match. Yes . Why would rhea wrestle everyone for 15. Squash 80 percent in 3 minutes or under . Be dominant. And then when the right person challenged her to 15 20 minute. It puts them over even in a loss. Kinda like lasting long in rumble but not winning lol my bad 30 second rant over lol
@@tomthesportsnerd1892 - WWE is a tv company and get billions for their programming. Who the hell is trying to watch uncompetitive squash matches that have no value? It’s not 1985 anymore
That's what it was , I was wondered why wwf matches during the attitude era felt different it was the quick pacing , edge is right but the matches were more entertaining because of the pace
His biggest match in my opinion is the TLC triple threat tag match which was attitude era. Everything is all cutesy now. Was definitely better back then. Even Ruthless Aggression era was better lol
People only cared about the "*Moments*", and why they cared about Attitude Era so much was the insane amount and immense size of Monents there were during that time
I remember VERY little in ring work. I obviously have my own highlight reel. But. It will ALWAYS be the entertainment side of it. Not just the wrestling.
So in theory… if matches were only that long on TV and more people were watching than ever before and since… wouldn’t that be the best way to present the product?? I mean, aren’t the pay-per-views/PLEs where the long matches should be?
Let's not forget, that minute and eight seconds was also during the days of a two hour Raw. They didn't have all the time in the world. Nowadays, they gotta work to fill those three hours.
Raw, smackdown, both have wayyy to much wrestling. Wwe needs to be a show Promos. Brawls. Comedy. Drama. And the matches should be mainly a showcase for new blood or a contender match. House shows and ppvs is where we get the important match
The downside I do remember is that every match ended with some kind of interference and chairs. I can appreciate that wrestling has moved to more about techniques and good sequences for the most part.
I’d rather weekly programming be 5-10 minute matches, and a 20-30 minute main event. With emphasis on promo’s/story building. PG era was not particularly great for the promo/story building. I don’t need it to be as calloused/wild as the attitude era (having people strip, storylines of infidelity (which actually lead to real life infidelity) kissing the bosses ass literally, etc…), but I need to at least try to believe the wrestlers don’t like eachother. And sometimes swear words, con-chair-to’s, a beat down in a supermarket, and edgy dialogue are necessary for that.
Now we get DIY vs The Creed Brothers for 20 minutes with 2 commercial breaks. Give me Edge vs Lance Storm for 60 seconds with a Christian run in any day!!
@@shunakiyama6275 from 1990 to 1998 definitely not... Not with the roster they had... And the bosses new that and that's why he had 1 minute matches.. you don't have 1 minute matches because your good.. he became a top star after the people from the 90s that were better then him retired.
@@jonathan3240 this is simply untrue, let's take a random attitude era episode, say the episode with stephanie mcmahon and test's wedding, there are six matches in this episode, three of them are a minute long, the longest one is 8 minutes, this isn't an edge problem, the attitude era simply had short matches.
@@shunakiyama6275 yes and tell me the wrestlers that were in those 3 matches?? It wasn't no top guys.. it wasnt undertaker or Austin or the rock or Kane or triple h or Michael's.. it was a bottom guy.. bottom guys have short matches.. I don't get what people don't understand about that.. I get u like edge but when he was first in the WWF not WWE he was a body guy a jobber u probably don't even no what the brood was your probably to young.. edge was a bottom guy with the talent they had in the 1990s the 1990s was the best era to watch bc the talent was the best. Wrestling now is trash even the promos are scripted now.lmao the promos were the best part but now there's no point to even watch the first half hour with a scripted promo
@@jonathan3240 your opinion became invalid when you said wrestling is trash now, you are blinded by nostalgia, this era is the best wrestling has been since the attitude era, you think promos being scripted is new??? All the rock's promos were scripted, he said so himself, you have no idea what you're talking about.
They saved the long matches for ppvs. The shows were entertaining and about selling the ppvs and the characters. People didn't chant fight forever and every raw was great. And oh yea, if you were wrestling lance storm it wasn't the attitude era.
Having some short matches sprinkled in is good, and ultimately important if the idea is to build towards the same two guys wrestling at a PPV. Yeah, Edge and Lance could have put on a 20min classic on some random RAW, but the point of that match wasn't to put over Edge or Lance, the match was just a vessel to facilitate the growing of the feud between Christian and Edge. And having a great, 20 min match end on a run-in by Christian would have been a disservice to the match and fans. You don't want fans clamoring for more Edge v Lance, when you're trying to sell PPV buys for Edge v Christian.
We didn't need long winded matches on Raw or Smackdown. We wanted actual verbal assaults on each other that made you want to pay for the PPV/PLE. The verbal jabs saved your body 3 weeks out of the month so you put it on the line when it counted.
I hate to correct Edge here, especially since he lived it and it was his job but this is not how I seen it at all. In fact it was quiet the opposite. Short Matches led to a product where you knew everyone on the roster and would cheer for them because you know you would see them every week and would become invested in their character. From the top of the food chain right down to the jobbers. Everyone had a chance and it was a time when even those jobbers would get big pops from the crowd. A lot can be said in a 2min match and was said week after week. Whether it was Kai and Tai segments, Eddie Guerrero's antics or it was Stone Cold coming out and Stunner'ing someone. There were many moments from the Attitude Era that made compelling storylines and some if not many of those segments were only a few minutes long but told a story we all remember to this day. Like someone else pointed out here, at leat back then you got a variety of matches and wrestlers in the 2hr program. Not like today where things drag on for so long it's boring and where finishers don't mean as much as the titles. Which is absolutely nothing and if I have to sit through another super kick I'll lose it. Even the titles meant something during the Attitude Era. I still remember the Hardcore Title belt when it went 24/7 and all the chaos that ensued was classic stuff...and guess what? It told a great story you wanted to tune in to watch.
Yet they have 30 minute matches today and can't tell a story? Since the Attitude Era, the longer the matches have become, the lower the ratings. Today's professional wrestlers have turned into marks and ruined the business because "artistic integrity" matters more than making money. If true go paint, write a book or become an actor. All the casual fan wants is to be entertained, not to dissect who does the best Canadian Destroyer.
LMAO his match was 1 minute and 8 seconds because he was a jobber then.lmao he was a nobody.. then all the top talent left and that's how edge got longer matches. LMAO
@@thenationofdefecation7969 Nah the wrestling is the only part I care about that's why I like AJPW and NJPW, FMW, and Noah I just hate a lot of modern wrestling because it's a high spot choreography fest instead of a sanctioned "boxing" match. When it takes you 5 seconds to setup a move where it's obvious you're collaborating with your opponent you've lost me.
@@MrLove717 yeah that was my idea brother to add a little drama. I spent 3 hours going over the psychology with Genghis Kahn and Joseph Stalin before the match then flew 373 hours from Tibet to make it to the match dude. Only the best for all my little hulkimaniacs brother.
As much as the attitude era was an awesome time. Yeah the matches I’m Raw and Smackdown were short most of the times (1-5 minute matches). It ended in a DQ, count out, no contest, or a job. Not saying every match needs to be 30 minutes each no of course not. But it did get annoying at times. But they made it up with good characters and story telling.
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A lot of people didn’t care so much about the matches. What happened backstage, the comical stuff and all the drama in between is what made the show interesting.
but... but this person deserves this and this person deserves that :00000
@@ryanjenki7948 What lol 😅
@@alexisflores7066idk that Ryan guy is a bit of a t*rd
I don’t think you speak for a lot of people. No offense.
Exactly. That's why I loved WWE. I mean also loved the wrestling but somehow you were more hyped for the promos and that stuff.
it was everything else besides the matches that made the attitude era great. there’s a reason why backstage clips and whole filmed segments are still fondly remembered not just the in ring stuff.
People watch clips of old Rock or Austin promos and act like the attitude era was 100% that. You had characters like “beaver cleavage” about a mom banging her kid
That's the whole point of a WRESTLING SHOW
@@thenationofdefecation7969 it just has to be said bc some fans ( cough cough) don’t get what makes a good wrestling show, and just have matches that are thrown together to get the approval of some guy that writes reviews.
Bro there was some amazing memorable matches cmon😂
@@thenationofdefecation7969no
Russo even said “we gave them more wrestling on the PPV since they paid for it”
Exactly. He wrote in like a TV show. Why have a 15 minute match with commercials interrupting anyway when you can fit two matches and a promo in that time? Save the 15 minute matches for the commercial free PPV.
@@jjalkman1999Austin left the company for the same reason. They wanted ppv shit on free tv. WWE is only hot for one reason right now, everyone wants to see this dragged out Roman reigns run come to an end with what was a two year build up with Cody. Thank fuck the rock thing changed.
@@jjalkman1999Okay yes, however like edge said 3 minute matches or less just can't be done in an adequate way.
And the attitude era PPV’s always sucked, because the fans were trained to not accept matches more that 2 minutes long, so all the fans were silent
@@dantegood2195lol no they weren't
Even with those shorter matches, everyone felt like they mattered in some way. The mid-card guys were over, the main eventers were over, everyone had a place and a storyline, and it just felt incredible.
What people don't understand was the pay off was in the PPV'S and also the main events were solid
Pretty sure edge understands that bro 😂
Only thing people REALLY remember are the top 5 guys.. what about the other 25-40 other people.. they have families yo feed as well.
@lyrikalkilla433 The rest of the guys went on to be main eventers and feed there family's really well.
@@lyrikalkilla433let's say the top 5 guys are Rock, Austin, HHH, Taker, Kane.
Edge was one of those midcard guys in the tag scene with Christian the Dudleys & Hardies. Dudleys definitely bring food to the table
Then there's guys like Foley, Val Venis, Godfather, Big Show...
@@lyrikalkilla433 everyone was over during the attitude era even the jobbers.
Edge’s hair… Can we take a moment to appreciate his hair during the Attitude Era? It truly was glorious.
Maybe he’s born with it.
Maybe it’s Mayballine.
That's why people PAID for the ppvs and live events Where they would have long matches. Now wwe has these long drawn out matches showing a replay 3 or 4 times just to try and kill time.
You mean now aways 75% of the show is promos
@@csl9495yeah it’s clear someone stopped watching the product awhile ago lol. Nowadays you get like 30 min promos and only like 3 matches on the card lol
@@csl9495blame the third hour
WWE has long matches?
@@Hidelgoalvarez68 WWE has sucked the last couple years.
And now matches are so long and drawn out with false finishes that you feel like it's going to take a gun to end the match. The story is everyone kicks out of everything all the time...
Great story
Exactly.
Lol they complain about hogan not selling. But all these wrestler kick out of 3 finishers a match lol
@@seba8425 the spots are so high I need binoculars.
@@seba8425the spots are so high, even RVD tells them to chill
50 Sweet chin musics per match, flipping all over the place for an hour long.
Attitude era was better, just because edge wanted to wrestle more doesnt mean it wasnt the best. Im glad i grew up watching the attitude era.
What made the attitude era so great was that we were all so invested in the characters and stories, we didn’t need drawn out matches everyday. These short matches were just used to push the stories all the way to the main event or PPV payoffs
The attitude era was awesome to me because everyone from Crash Holly Dlo and Mideon were given a story and made to feel important.
Like Game of thrones every Character mattered.
Like Game of Thrones? My brother in Christ, one of the main themes of GoT is that almost noone really matters. At all.
Exactly. No moment was wasted
I prefer the shorter matches to what we have now, a 3 hour ppv with 2 matches and a bunch of talking.
I've been rewatching attitude and he exaggerates, most matches are closer to 10 minutes and that's plenty of time to do your thing and not bore people
Still better than everyone having 20 min matches kicking out ofneverything in aew
Going to be honest, these day I watch the entrances and then skip to the last 3 mins of the match. Every time… so yeah..I’d be fine if we went back to the attitude era
This is why the WWE’s RUclips channel are one of only a handful with the most subscribers & view counts in the world. Fuck sitting through a 3 hour Raw these days when you can literally watch the individual highlights that are uploaded immediately after they’ve just been on TV or you can just go on there later on when even more videos of the show get uploaded.
Tbh, shorter matches are more realistic. Real fights only last a few minutes. Plus modern attention spans are shorter anyways. I prefer shorter matches & more backstage segments.
These aren't street fights
These are simulating getting your opponents shoulder on the ground for 3 secs
@@OliveMulewhich doesn't take that long. Which is why boxing and mma have it broken up into rounds
@@DreadPages you are ignorant AF
Pinning another man's shoulders on the ground for three seconds may take up to three hours that's why old matches from the 1800s took an hour or more
LEARN YOUR HISTORY MARK
"Pro wrestling" and "realistic" don't go together.
What did you think of WWE Speed?
I wouldn't mind some of these matches today being a minute long
My perception of the attitude era was that everyone was a superstar. Everyone was so entertaining that the guys that were on the bottom of the totem pole didn't feel like jobbers. Crash Holly was a trip. He was so paranoid trying to protect the hardcore title. People tried to pin him in his sleep. A fan pinned Crash Holly, and the referee counted that ish.😂 Fun times.
why is he acting like this isnt a consistent problem throughout the years 😂 not just then
The Attitude Era gave us some of the best matches! The TLC 1&2, stone cold v rock, both v HHH, undertaker v Foley, money in the bank, guerro and angle. Sone people here are tripping
The long matches were saved for the main events or title matches. That's why there was so many mid carders, they needed people fill the time between
The shorter matches on raw is war and then smackdown was probably to save the wrestlers from possible injuries going into PPV’s so it was smart from the writers team to do that. It all depends on what part of the show it was, it was allot of mix and matches, some matches were short, some were longer
The thing I liked about the quicker matches was when a finisher was hit they stayed down. Now a finisher has the same effect as any other move. Which just leaves me thinking the move sucks not that the guy kicking out is tough.
Attitude era was always exciting but we got awesome novellas on TV and beautiful stories on ppv
Bring back the Attitude Era. Nowadays you get bored just listening to them talk and talk and talk.... 😢
Those 3 min matches had more action packed into them then a 20 min match does now. Its so slow now.
Lets be honest we loved the "tna" and comical.moments but those "full matches" def use to be 10 min at the most anything longer than that was a beat the clock challenge or literally the main event
Edge was also a mid carder at best during the Attitude Era. Rock and Austin, Taker and Foley, HHH and Angle were not having 1 min matches
Alot of people...myself included don't like those long boring drawn-out matches 😒 1 minute and 8 seconds is a bit crazy id have to agree on that but I mean yeah once in a while at a PPV or something have a 20 or 30 minute match with the right people but for the most part 5-10 minutes was perfect 👌
Exactly. As with most things in life, the best lies somewhere in the middle. Back in the day, the old TV title matches were either 10 or 15 minutes, and guys like Arn, Tully, Steamboat and Regal had zero problems putting on an entertaining match even if it was a time limit draw.
We're approaching a high level balance between match length and promo length.
The only matches that should go over 15-20 minutes are wars for the title or grudge matches between 2 workers that can get it done between the ropes like GUNTHER or Dragunov.
Everyone else is better in a sprint. 8-12 minutes is a sweet spot. Work on your character, promo, & backstage spots. That's when wrestling is at its best.
The reason the matches were short was because there were so many characters the fans loved idk just my perspective I haven't really watched wrestling since attitude era
Short matches are like short stories, if you can't tell a story in a limited amount of time, then you can't write a novel.
I feel like it’s the style of matches & the way they were presented is what the people want back but hey I can only speak for myself
Tbh stories are made outside of matches but finished in matches
The matches where not ment to be the story. You did great stories,that's why we really did not mind short matches on RAW and smackdown. The matches that where stories where on the PPV's
I will zone out halfway through 20-minute matches every time. To be fair, I do have ADHD. But I sat through the movie “Talk to Me” the other night and I was riveted the entire time. Maybe 20-minute matches just aren’t captivating to me.
I don’t know, but I haven’t been this excited for wrestling in a LONG time since Rocky came back. I just wish Edge and Christian was still there. Christian has been stellar as a heel in AEW, and I’d love to see the Rated-R Superstar back in full force. They’d be an absolute threat if they came back and joined up again, with how more Rocky’s been saying whatever he wants despite censors.
They're both Wrestling on t.v. if you enjoyed their work you wouldn't care what channel they're on
@@thenationofdefecation7969 Lol, like AEW could ever touch the spectacle that is WWE. Get back to me when you wanna be serious.
I miss short matches . Every match now days is 15 to 29 min.. save that for main event 😊
15 mins is a long match to u?
@thenationofdefecation7969 for EVERY match. Yes . Why would rhea wrestle everyone for 15. Squash 80 percent in 3 minutes or under . Be dominant. And then when the right person challenged her to 15 20 minute. It puts them over even in a loss. Kinda like lasting long in rumble but not winning lol my bad 30 second rant over lol
@@tomthesportsnerd1892 - WWE is a tv company and get billions for their programming. Who the hell is trying to watch uncompetitive squash matches that have no value? It’s not 1985 anymore
That's what it was , I was wondered why wwf matches during the attitude era felt different it was the quick pacing , edge is right but the matches were more entertaining because of the pace
His biggest match in my opinion is the TLC triple threat tag match which was attitude era. Everything is all cutesy now. Was definitely better back then. Even Ruthless Aggression era was better lol
I mean to be fair the main eventers during that era got to go longer, he just wasn’t there up the card yet
I was a fan during the attitude era.
now its on the other end of the spectrum where every match is a 25 min banger. when every match goes that long, it just feels even more contrived
The matches ain’t what sells tickets playa
People only cared about the "*Moments*", and why they cared about Attitude Era so much was the insane amount and immense size of Monents there were during that time
“YOUR” Matches were only 3 minutes lol
I remember VERY little in ring work. I obviously have my own highlight reel. But. It will ALWAYS be the entertainment side of it. Not just the wrestling.
He’s being nice. The talent on those rosters was once in a lifetime stuff
So in theory… if matches were only that long on TV and more people were watching than ever before and since… wouldn’t that be the best way to present the product?? I mean, aren’t the pay-per-views/PLEs where the long matches should be?
Let's not forget, that minute and eight seconds was also during the days of a two hour Raw. They didn't have all the time in the world. Nowadays, they gotta work to fill those three hours.
The stories weren’t told during the match. It was the awesome mic work between the matches that we want back
He's right, I recently tried to rewatch the Attitude Era as an adult and it's absolutely brutal. Loved it as a kid though!
The matches were backdrops to the theater of the stories and characters.
The height of popularity that was the recipe.
The attitude era didnt need high workrate regularly cuz all the characters were good
Raw, smackdown, both have wayyy to much wrestling. Wwe needs to be a show
Promos. Brawls. Comedy. Drama. And the matches should be mainly a showcase for new blood or a contender match. House shows and ppvs is where we get the important match
some times, the best stories are the shortest ones. You don't need 2000 pages to tell the best stories in life.
“I didn’t have time to write you a short letter, so I wrote you a long letter” - Mark Twain
Meltzer marks care about the matches. Fans care about how entertaining it is
The downside I do remember is that every match ended with some kind of interference and chairs. I can appreciate that wrestling has moved to more about techniques and good sequences for the most part.
3 minute matches are way better than long matches.
You must have loved The Fiend Vs Goldberg...
In the attitude era it was for the fans now it's for the marks
I’d rather weekly programming be 5-10 minute matches, and a 20-30 minute main event. With emphasis on promo’s/story building.
PG era was not particularly great for the promo/story building.
I don’t need it to be as calloused/wild as the attitude era (having people strip, storylines of infidelity (which actually lead to real life infidelity) kissing the bosses ass literally, etc…), but I need to at least try to believe the wrestlers don’t like eachother. And sometimes swear words, con-chair-to’s, a beat down in a supermarket, and edgy dialogue are necessary for that.
You kinda lost me there chief. One of THE biggest things missing now is the PUPPIES!!!
THOSE were entertaining!!
🤣🤣🤣
And do you think AEW is telling stories???😊
That was a long one minute and eight seconds as a kid. The store lines were better and you could get away with a lot more stuff on tv back then.
Now we get DIY vs The Creed Brothers for 20 minutes with 2 commercial breaks. Give me Edge vs Lance Storm for 60 seconds with a Christian run in any day!!
What's wrong with diy vs the creed brothers I see what you mean but damn you ain't had to them like that lmao 🤣
Tht usually happens if ur not wrestling in the main or co-main event. By time edge stated headlining the attitude era was over
The only people that had 1 minute and 8 second matches in the attitude era were wrestlers who didn't bring anything to the table then.
You think EDGE didn't bring anything to the table???
@@shunakiyama6275 from 1990 to 1998 definitely not... Not with the roster they had... And the bosses new that and that's why he had 1 minute matches.. you don't have 1 minute matches because your good.. he became a top star after the people from the 90s that were better then him retired.
@@jonathan3240 this is simply untrue, let's take a random attitude era episode, say the episode with stephanie mcmahon and test's wedding, there are six matches in this episode, three of them are a minute long, the longest one is 8 minutes, this isn't an edge problem, the attitude era simply had short matches.
@@shunakiyama6275 yes and tell me the wrestlers that were in those 3 matches?? It wasn't no top guys.. it wasnt undertaker or Austin or the rock or Kane or triple h or Michael's.. it was a bottom guy.. bottom guys have short matches.. I don't get what people don't understand about that.. I get u like edge but when he was first in the WWF not WWE he was a body guy a jobber u probably don't even no what the brood was your probably to young.. edge was a bottom guy with the talent they had in the 1990s the 1990s was the best era to watch bc the talent was the best. Wrestling now is trash even the promos are scripted now.lmao the promos were the best part but now there's no point to even watch the first half hour with a scripted promo
@@jonathan3240 your opinion became invalid when you said wrestling is trash now, you are blinded by nostalgia, this era is the best wrestling has been since the attitude era, you think promos being scripted is new??? All the rock's promos were scripted, he said so himself, you have no idea what you're talking about.
They saved the long matches for ppvs. The shows were entertaining and about selling the ppvs and the characters. People didn't chant fight forever and every raw was great. And oh yea, if you were wrestling lance storm it wasn't the attitude era.
They were still better and much more entertaining than whatever they spit out today.
That was him though
There were plenty of matches that were longer
3 minutes is a lot longer than I last…😐
Good thing about 3 min matches is they didint have time for an ad break mid match.
The Tag Team division and Mid Card should have been better,that helps the main event look better and more exciting to see during that time.
3 minutes of passion and action packed story telling is better then 11 minute lackluster botch filled matches.
I almost feel like Edge was paid to say this for some reason
its like some other company is just about to have short 5 minute matches on a show named "speed" ;-) ALSO THE ROCKS ATTITUDE ERA 2024
Having some short matches sprinkled in is good, and ultimately important if the idea is to build towards the same two guys wrestling at a PPV. Yeah, Edge and Lance could have put on a 20min classic on some random RAW, but the point of that match wasn't to put over Edge or Lance, the match was just a vessel to facilitate the growing of the feud between Christian and Edge. And having a great, 20 min match end on a run-in by Christian would have been a disservice to the match and fans. You don't want fans clamoring for more Edge v Lance, when you're trying to sell PPV buys for Edge v Christian.
AEW is proving long matches that don’t mean anything doesn’t work.
Story > Matches
Well they balance it out now by having their intro sequence take 4 and a half minutes each.
Hopefully this new era will be a bit of both. The attitude era, but with good storylines and decent matches.
The short matches were made up by all the backstage brawls and supermarket fights and Ironman matches and whatever else Vince wanted to put on TV
Edge and Kurt Angle's sign promo was funny. I'm glad they brought that back later on.
Shows u how stacked the era was
We didn't need long winded matches on Raw or Smackdown. We wanted actual verbal assaults on each other that made you want to pay for the PPV/PLE. The verbal jabs saved your body 3 weeks out of the month so you put it on the line when it counted.
I hate to correct Edge here, especially since he lived it and it was his job but this is not how I seen it at all. In fact it was quiet the opposite. Short Matches led to a product where you knew everyone on the roster and would cheer for them because you know you would see them every week and would become invested in their character. From the top of the food chain right down to the jobbers. Everyone had a chance and it was a time when even those jobbers would get big pops from the crowd. A lot can be said in a 2min match and was said week after week. Whether it was Kai and Tai segments, Eddie Guerrero's antics or it was Stone Cold coming out and Stunner'ing someone. There were many moments from the Attitude Era that made compelling storylines and some if not many of those segments were only a few minutes long but told a story we all remember to this day. Like someone else pointed out here, at leat back then you got a variety of matches and wrestlers in the 2hr program. Not like today where things drag on for so long it's boring and where finishers don't mean as much as the titles. Which is absolutely nothing and if I have to sit through another super kick I'll lose it. Even the titles meant something during the Attitude Era. I still remember the Hardcore Title belt when it went 24/7 and all the chaos that ensued was classic stuff...and guess what? It told a great story you wanted to tune in to watch.
“It was one minute, eight seconds” and that was all you needed. Long matches are boring for some of us.
Yet they have 30 minute matches today and can't tell a story? Since the Attitude Era, the longer the matches have become, the lower the ratings. Today's professional wrestlers have turned into marks and ruined the business because "artistic integrity" matters more than making money. If true go paint, write a book or become an actor. All the casual fan wants is to be entertained, not to dissect who does the best Canadian Destroyer.
Been saying this for years
LMAO his match was 1 minute and 8 seconds because he was a jobber then.lmao he was a nobody.. then all the top talent left and that's how edge got longer matches. LMAO
The story was outside the ring
Sometimes you can tell a story no asked for, such as Roman's title reign
Longer matches doesn't equal better
The stories and three minute matches were still far superior to what he's doing over in the bush league in 2024.
I wouldather watch a 108 squash than two men hug each other and lying on the floor for 45 minutes
They did so much damage to their bodies during the attitude era. When I was a kid I thought that shit was normal.
Yeah a few matches were under 5 minutes. . . BUT SOMETIMES the entrances were the best part of the match anyways. . .
The walkouts alone were better than most matches today.
I think you just dislike wrestling
@@thenationofdefecation7969 Nah the wrestling is the only part I care about that's why I like AJPW and NJPW, FMW, and Noah I just hate a lot of modern wrestling because it's a high spot choreography fest instead of a sanctioned "boxing" match. When it takes you 5 seconds to setup a move where it's obvious you're collaborating with your opponent you've lost me.
now we get 3 minute chop exchanges
Some of aew matches is a little too long.
It was still THE BEST.
I taught Edge to never go over 1 minute and 8 seconds in the Mecca MSG brother
Yeah brother!
I also liked how HBK Shawn Michaels was overselling your moves in the 2000s brother!😂
@@MrLove717 yeah that was my idea brother to add a little drama. I spent 3 hours going over the psychology with Genghis Kahn and Joseph Stalin before the match then flew 373 hours from Tibet to make it to the match dude. Only the best for all my little hulkimaniacs brother.
@@HulksterNevaLies yeah 🤣🤣🤣I'm a hulkamaniac for life brother 🤘🤣🤣
As much as the attitude era was an awesome time. Yeah the matches I’m Raw and Smackdown were short most of the times (1-5 minute matches). It ended in a DQ, count out, no contest, or a job. Not saying every match needs to be 30 minutes each no of course not. But it did get annoying at times. But they made it up with good characters and story telling.