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Have any of the cheaters tried… getting good at the game?
why would they when they can't be bothered to try and not be obnoxious losers?
They dont care about score
They just think its fun and some of them like annoying people
Obviously not. Besides, they're not interested in "getting good", they love the controversy
There is a well known hacker called Fazda in the Reach team snipers playlist, and he is pretty decent (if what I've seen is true). But he still fucking cheats with aimbot, flies around, ddos players, etc, ruining the match for everyone. I don't think it's about getting good, maybe he just wants to watch the world burn... idk
No they just want to ruin things for everyone yet don’t realize in their pathetic minds that they destroy the games they play. Well then again they wouldn’t care for they are parasites
Cheaters are by far the biggest losers I've ever seen and are so extraordinarly bad that they have to ruin the game for others because they're small yet inflated ego of theirs needs to be stroked
Botmakers too. Tf2 is even worse than MCC, the community servers are its saving grace. It was fixed for a bit, but it’s bad now
Literally some of the saddest, most pathetic people on earth
@@thewisewolf768you think someone cheating in a video game is one of the saddest things? Bro😂😂😂
@@chancefoy6287 found the cheater
@@chancefoy6287 found the cheater here.
the MCC straight up prevents my friend from even playing co-op campaign on his steam deck because of the anti-cheat but it can let hackers run rampant. amazing
it's because the anticheat isnt designed for linux; as an open operating system it's a lot easier to make cheats for linux than for windows. but also i'm pretty sure the game has been 100% steamdeck compatible for like a solid 6 months at least
@@38mb. It will still regularly boot him when we get the lobby past the mission load
Strange I played Halo Co-op on Linux a couple weeks ago, and one of my friends was on Windows while the other was also on Linux.
Apparently there's an issue where if you pick the anti cheat on or off options the opposite effect will happen. So ticking the "anti cheat off" option actually launches the game with anti cheat on instead. Even outside the actual game MCC is still such a mess and 343 fan boys will still say it isn't buggy.
@@heyyoumewtwo4801Yeah and those fanboys claim infinite is the best not broken halo ever. Meanwhile the whole game is plagued by desync, melees not connecting, dying behind walls, missing shots on a person actually killing them. Along with the bad campaign and overpriced store
The 343 Fanboys suck and are killing Halo, they're the reason why 343 is getting away with all these issues with halo bc they act like there isn't a problem and call everyone else a toxic hater for pointing the negative issues with the games that need to be fixed to make their "precious" game better. They're always like "just ignore the problems and play the game its actually good if you don't pay attention to it." Meanwhile the 343 halos are bugged and broken like crazy making them unplayable to a majority of players and making people leave halo everyday.
Bc of these people its made 343 see that they can just make crap and be ok because there will always be a small amount of people who will pretend problems don't exist which is ruining halo bc 343 keeps making the same mistakes and having the same problems on each game they release.
Honestly this issue deserves a less vague title. Devs/companies need to tighten security ASAP.
i think it's more mint is just fed up of having to make videos about this, 343 seemingly just does not care and it really shows
@@eaouIt's not that 343i doesn't care, but that cheating is an arms race and right now EVERY company is struggling to keep up with the rapid development of cheats.
@dilbertpickle1659 You know why they're are so many games with cheating problems? Because they all run off the same 3-4 engines. They are all compromised. COD is still technically a heavily modified doom 3 engine. Obviously Unreal engine is completely compromised. Unity is compromised. If I see a game is using UE with easy anti cheat, you can guarantee its infested with cheaters
i agree, though from a developer standpoint, its not easy to just simply tighten security as it would mean rewriting some backend code, then also meaning the games may not be 100% accurate to their originals, while trying to also not possibly break anything
I know! They need *more* invasive, intrusive, ineffective kernel-level probeware!
this problem really needs to be addressed. this is the main reason i don't play mcc anymore, it's really sad to me that people think that halo as a whole deserves to die
I mean, what can be done outside of real-time monitoring? We're at the point where kernel level anti-cheats can be worked around.
There is literally nothing to be done at this point, hackers will always find a way around heck even pirates are funding more ways to get around denuvo
Halo itself is a toxic IP now. The way it has been handled has pissed of many more than will ever play it again. 343 has tipped the scales over to more folks actively hating Halo than liking it. I am one of them, I bought OG Halo on release day for my OG Xbox. I even read the books. Now, Halo is embarrassing. Zero time for it.
@@AlwayzFreshu sure do have a lot of time to comment on videos about halo tho
Yea halo died so yea I think we should lay it to rest
The game NEEDS a system where everyone can vote to kick the offending player like source engine based games.
if only it doesnt backfire like in tf2, legits get kicked instead
It can be abused but I'd rather be kicked 1000 times, than be permanently banned.
see, that's a good idea. meaning microsoft will never implement it
@@joanofsharcas a Microsoft fan I'm highly, HIGHLY pissed with them. Cheaters come and go but it's so rampant now and days the only company off top of my head that is good at controlling cheaters and keeping them minimal is Fortnite
@@nikmagic8350 they are basically the same thing since nothing will ever be done about the cheaters
Solutions to this problem:
1. IP/Hardware Bans (Can be easily circumvented sadly)
2. Implementing a better anti cheat into Halo like BattlEye or VAC (Better than nothing)
3. Microsoft growing a pair and filing suits against cheaters and cheat makers (Super effective strategy)
These people do not have the funding to take Microsoft on in a legal battle. They would get annihilated and make the rest of the cheating space think twice about cheating. Say what you will about the ethics of suing your players but this is a strategy I support if it means preserving the integrity of classic games.
Anti cheat in general doesn't work. It never has. Also battleye is not good. Even kernal level ones. Which has major issues.
@TheTimelessOne26 Yeah, anti cheats are just outmatched by cheat devs. Theres always a workaround.
@@TheTimelessOne26considering MS already has the windows kernel it would be a very good move for them to implement a kernel level anti cheat for halo. Yes you can bypass kernel anticheat but it is expensive and all MS has to then do is sue the cheat developers and take down their websites.
@@Bagginsess no. Because kernel-level anti-cheat by everyone who is an expert on network security/cybersecurity or anyone with a brain knows that they are a major security risk. You taking a major chance when you use those. Please stop it. We dont need it.
@@Bagginsess no, it wouldn't. Stop advocating for this. Kernel-level anti-cheats are a major security risk. You exposing your computer (your entire computer) to potential hackers. This happened to Genshin's impact users already. And this isn't my word. Ask any cybersecurity expert or someone in that industry, you will find the same points I mentioned.
And that is just from that perspective. They are privacy issues as well. And users that will be affected by this more. Linux or mac users.
I myself am a modder but never could understand why people abuse the power like that when you can make things so much more fun for everyone using this power and even use it to prevent other cheaters from ruining the game.
Because they want to have a power fantasy over real people. It’s pathetic honestly for they don’t realize they are killing the game they are playing. I have more words for people like this but I know I will get slapped by Susan
@@IntrusiveThoughts838No, they do. They just don’t give a flying frick. People like that are garbage human beings who only care about their own gratification.
@@IntrusiveThoughts838they don’t care, they’ll just move on to another
they use the EAC bypass and allows them to use assembly online. I assume u kjnow what halo assembly is because ur a modder.
@@Suffur.They didn't ask "how", they're talking about "why".
It seems like gaming news nowadays is constantly good one day and bad the next.
I have seen moblie game Halo clones with fewer hackers than MCC.
Yeah it seems to happen everytime
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@@nah4215 Detroit become human, pal world, helldivers, infinite, and you might not like this, but fallout 76
@@totalygamingtemplarinfinite, palworld and fallout 76 are the most shit games what are you talking about? Has the gaming community fallen so low?
@@greek7003There are far worse games out there what tf are you on about
Sad bastards. Hopefully 343 can sort this out.
Literally, they clearly have too much time on their hands.
Doubt it.
they're too busy adding colors to the store to do that
@@gabrielcoventry4586 you speak as if dealing with hackers is that easy😂there really isn't much to be done to counter hackers they always have ways to get around anti cheats, especially if they have an insider revealing the anti cheat codes in the games, like when GTA had its source code leaked and now hackers can do whatever they want.
They won't.
I was playing the OG Cod Black Ops and someone messaged my my exact location.. I'm currently in Korea on a short tour. Scary to think these people can do that. I'll stick to getting MCC campaign achievements until I get a PC and VPN.
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thats insane how ppl can find exactly where you are unless you have a vpn or something
@@Porsche911RSR-0 especially when I'm in a very random country
I primarily play custom games and I'm telling you right now, cheaters are on them too. I have so much footage of cheaters changing their gamertag mid game, flying around at the speed of light, sword lunging from far away and straight up taking down peoples lobbies. It's a real issue that needs addressing. These players can do things which no other player should be able to do, but for some reason it doesn't set off the anticheat... it's insane. Like what is the current anticheat even doing if it's not stopping the most blatant cheats?
Yeah cheaters are no fun, hope you’re doing okay man.
Tbh the only solution to this plague across all games is the makers submitting lawsuits against the cheat makers and cheaters. I saw someone else's comment about Microsoft being able to annihilate these companies, and I want to elaborate that Microsoft now also owns Activision, which means they should really work to fix this problem across CoD and Halo alike. We need to step up as a gaming community to stop this plague
Oh man, if it's anything like TF2 this could get even worse.
this is probably worse, at least tf2 can be played even if the gameplay is just a ton of cheaters and bots, you cant even join halo matches now? lol
@@BiblemanTFtf2 (titanfall 2 I assume ) has hackers that can take complete access of your PC, and get access to your personal info ,documents etc. I don’t think that’s the case for MCC yet.
@@spat3305they mean team fortress 2.
@@dropstopandroll honestly i dont know if he meant titanfall in the first place, but it sounds really bad as well as team fortress, where the hell are the hive mind ammount of cheaters coming from to infest every game, goddamn
no they cant, lmao? @@spat3305
Not to mention game crashes trigger the quit bans, which have been the cause of my friends just waiting around or just straight up quiting due to no fault of our own.
Hackers are just so tiring and boring. I don't understand how lonely and bored they have to be to do this stuff
It's because they're either physically, mentally (or both) 9 years old.
Its so much worse than this, there are so many clans that swatt, doxx, cheat, and ddos and i wish someone could shed light on the issue. Its not just the matchmaking the customs browser is so much worse...
Shit needs to change it's ridiculous
Quit bans have always been stupid in the MCC. They don't really do anything to address quitters, and it was always a band-aid fix onto a really horrible SBMM implementation that makes people want to quit when they are put into unfair games or against full stacked teams..
It's just like that in 90% of all online service games these days. It's pretty sad now to the point i generally only play single player games now.
This is so depressing. I'm sorry y'all had to put up with this during your streams. I've encountered a few cheaters recently with aimbots who fly around the map and change their gamertags just like you highlighted in this video. I really hope something can be done about this, MCC's population is not high enough to avoid these people.
They’ve been able to impersonate your GT for years. I set my regions to exclude Asia and South America. I would limit matchmaking to exclude PC in my Xbox’s settings, but I can’t find games that way.
why exclude south america?
You can limit matchmaking with your Xbox?
@@mouaragon2774 There's A LOT of cheaters here. Like I've seen pirate gaming stores where you can buy modded controllers, aim bots, etc
@@TheBoss.-tq2vmYeah, settings>general>online safety & family>privacy & online safety>xbox privacy>communication & multiplayer>"you can join cross-network play":block
I used to do that in MW19 so I would only match controller players.
I hate cheaters so much. You gotta be a real piece of shit to ruin the few bright spots in other people's lives.
It’s sad that the hackers on halo didn’t really become this much of a problem untill it came on pc
Not the fault of PC, plenty of PC games don't have cheaters. COD is a great example, playing the old COD games i almost never come across a cheater. This is a lazy dev issue
@@mrcaboosevg6089 I agree with you man its sad now how all these games are and we can’t just simply play and enjoy with one someone trying to ruin it
Halo has been on PC since 2003 buddy
@@homr8785 yes Ik but the problem wasn’t bad like is now
Give more power to player handle Halo MCC to less Dev time and focus more on priority things to preserve Halo longer.
thats not a good idea, the players are very paranoid. High level ranked community has so many cheating accusations and people closet cheating too so I dont think giving players power to ban would end well
Seems like this could be a good use of deep learning AI. Something that can analyze player behavior and fight cheating based on abnormal behavior and results
Haven't played the multiplayer on halo in a while cause I'm trying to complete my campaign runs and hearing this gives me relief, now I'm gonna disable cross play for safety
I totally forgot you can do that on MCC 😅 sadly Halo Infinite doesn't have that option and I swear the common cheat is walls because the anti cheat kinda looks for aim bot.
you're not 100% safe on console either you have douchebags on there that use xim's to get kb/m controls with gamepad aim assist. But it's not as bad as people who fly around the map with aimbot among other things.
I play on PC because I like KB/M this game was fun a few years ago but online pvp in 2024 is awful because of online games being infested with cheaters. Unfortunately it's a problem with society and our culture on top of gaming developers being cheapskates and not developing competent anti-cheat solutions to games problems.
@oOignignoktOo1 True, you are not 100% safe even with Console. The issue is the power of the cheats and where they show up. Also, Microsoft allows you to play most Xbox games with a keyboard and mouse hooked up to the Xbox itself. So, the keyboard and mouse aren't the issues. It's cheating in general. The problem is that Anti-Cheat methods are a Bandaid solution in a Cross-play era. I'm not an expert in many areas, but I can say there is way more power in the hands of PC players. That power has been used by some for personal gain. That right there has stained PC players' reputations regardless if they do or do not cheat. The sad reality for some games that have been on Console for the majority of its lifetime to switch to Cross-play with PC and issues showing almost day 1 on newly releases. Halo Infinite is the best example of a Halo game. The majority of its lifetime being console exclusive, then when PC players joined in a couple of bad actors made it clear it's PC issue. The cheating has died down a lot a year later, but the same bad actors still use Walls because it's easy and hard to find. Anti-Cheat delays the inevitable.
The same thing happened to OG MW2 on PC. It's the only reason I have to use lobby admin tools to force host games and ban strictly only those actually hacking from my lobbies. It's the community who keeps that game clean.
That's terrible! I hope they fix it
This is why Mint is the best. Doesn’t care if he’s gonna get targeted just wants the halo community to thrive!
Unfortunately we can't say the same thing about 343. They've been actively destroying the community since 2012
I REALLY dont get why 343i implemented a 15 min ban for leaving matches ON A SOCIAL PLAYLIST. It is genuinely one of the stupidest ideas theyve had, specially because you can join on going games
Just past week I was playing some griff ball on mcc and some guy didnt want anyone to score and just wanted to reach timeout on EVERY ROUND. Thats 15 minutes of just smacking eachother. I matchmaked with him twice, the moment I realised he was there again I was having none of it and left and I somehow have to pay because someone just wants to waist my time
It is SO STUPID. Why do players have to be punished for leaving a social match? Why are we forced to play with cheaters and people who overall ruin the expirience? Best part is that you can even join custom games or firefight until the ban lifts
in a non competitive matchmaking setting, cheaters can make games more fun.
i remember playing CoD WaW like 10 years ago, i went into a zombies match and one of them was a hacker. he didnt do anything major. just did things that were fun like spawning random weapons, made weapons shoot differently, made it so we could all run faster. things like that. and because it was a pve thing, i think that type of thing is ok (as long as it doesnt boost any rank in some way)
people would do this all the time on black ops 2 aswell, but in the case of black ops 2 u dont even need a modded console or anything (if u played console, which a majority of people that played bo2 did) because the theater mode wasnt just videos, it played back actual gameplay, meaning those mod menu infections would work in theater mode
i remember in bo2 the cheaters would block you from being able to leave the match. and it’s still 60$ on steam.
343 Needa to make TOSERS for the MCC, (digital cookie for whoever gets the reference!)
Isn't that from Arby n the chief?
@@LTurmoil47 Yep! =)
Freeze! Tossers!
The arms race is cut short from the developer side with headcount reductions and cost cutting to pad CEO bonuses. I feel like the cheating is one driver for the popularity of more co-op or campaign focused games like helldivers.
MCC is sacred and needs to be protected.
It’s crazy that people refuse to play the game they paid for and just cheat
Mint, you're spot on with this one. I was a semi pro back in Halo 2 and 3 when they first came around. We had cheaters but we managed. It's gotten so bad in the MCC that I don't even play it unless someone wants to play through the stories. It makes me sad given that Halo is the reason I owned an Xbox in the first place. I have a long history with it and the MP side of the games.
They could do something like how tf2 deals with cheaters with vote kicks from matches but I also understand that’s not perfect
I was playing Halo Reach on MCC yesterday, I finished my game with no betrayals, and it banned me for 10 minutes for no reason. Also Naded can’t eject people for some reason because of “too many ejections”
Unfortunately, there's probably not much they can really do to really detract from dealing with cheaters as it stands. If there were, then you'd actually see other games and devs come up with solutions to deal with them. Look at my game for years, Team Fortress 2, which was seemingly abandoned by Valve due to what I presume is fatigue from the Devs who have been working on that game for like, nearly 15-20 years now. Matchmaking is plagued with bots, to the point the best way to deal with them is to stop doing matchmaking and start playing on community servers. Preferably ones that have active moderators and admins that will remove people who are clearly cheating.
ew its you, the eternally online weirdo and weird art pfp
I just think adding these games to PC is just a bad idea in general or at least cross play for PC and console It's killing these games way too quick.
Yt literally just recommended a tutorial video of someone doing this for mcc and also aimbot/walls for infinite. 343 is going to do nothing to stop this and the videos are getting thousands of views if I could link it I would but the video is called “Engine-Owning For HALO INFINITE (Aimbot+Wallhacks)” By Guap and this isn’t the only video. The biggest downfall for the halo franchise is opening the servers to pc players and making cross play unavoidable. The worst part is 343 knows these videos showing people how to do these hacks exists and they still won’t do anything. That’s also why it’s live service now too. No love, just revenue. No developer that has your best interest in mind would sit and let this happen all while selling you a helmet for 25 dollars.
I literally was removed in a competitive free-for-all match for teabagging somebody one time and the game said body desecration is not allowed. I’ve only ever seen it once. But if they know that I’m putting my titanium taint on the silent and cold lips of my fallen adversaries I think they can figure out somebody’s using an aim bot. I laughed so hard when somebody teabags me. I don’t care how mad I am about losing it makes me bust out laughing still! Love that there are still immature. People playing the game, even in competitive mode, and just trying to keep some of the goofiness and Fun alive. I did accidentally kill myself in that match so maybe that’s what it meant by body desecration, something with suicide, but it was Lonewolf and it was one time by accident. I only teabag one person in that match. I think it was like two minutes before I was banned and like 10 seconds after I fell off the map.
That's crazy, T bagging is a sacred part of Halo and I don't wanna play a version of the game that sanitized
@@onelongwordable it’s just weird I’ve never seen that happen before in any halo game and it only happened once but it kicked me from the game and gave me that message. I’m assuming it was from the teabagging. It said body desecration is not tolerated or something really close to that. I’m gonna look it up.
Honestly companies should sue every website or even companies making these hacks. You take out the root of the problem the cheaters would be screwed.
Halo as a whole needs a HOTFIX
As long as the servers are running 343 HAS to support the game with security fixes. Just like any other piece of legacy software
What do cheetahs have to do with any of this though? 🐆
You didn't see how FAST that guy was? Gotta slow 'em down eh?
Sorry to hear that. I have finally started getting pretty good at Reach’s multiplayer and it sucks to know now that it probably will not be any fun thanks to people who only care about making people miserable.
This is just out of hand 😔
I feel like the solution for cheaters is to just put them in lobbies against each other. If they aren’t actually cheating they’ll get their ass kicked, and removed from the pool. But if they are and it’s directed without fail once. They are only paired against cheaters or banned from online play.
Yeah idk about that, maybe the system could get reworked but I've had a HUGE issue with players quitting games when losing or when they don't get the power weapon they want right away or when they die in some way they don't like and its ruined hundreds of games for me while I've only ran into a couple minor cheaters. The reason people quitting is such a prolific problem, that I've seen other people site as the reason they left the game, is because the punishment for quitting is too light and often doesn't even apply. Kicks and reports need to be a real thing in the game, but if they removed even more stuff to allow people to quit whenever they want I would not play the game anymore.
Thanks for bringing this to light. I am max rank plyer on mcc and I can say theres many cheaters on mcc. Specifically on ranked h3 team slayer its a mess theres already AFK guys constantly and cheater/hacker comes up too often I've seen. N its such a limited player pool already... Its sad ur right. Ppl want to ruin already faltering game. I say just ply for it, go earn it... I didn't know the part about they can mimic your gamertag, quit, then you get a ban. Thats wild. I love halo so much been playing since very beginning of 360 H3 to 360 Reach now MCC I pretty much play all titles. The ban was already getting out of hand in first place, now against Modder obv dont want to lose, no option but to quit. Removing bans might not be solution though, or you'll end up with how 360 reach was with players who drop out in less than a minute. Needed to quit like 50 games in a row literally to get a one-time 10 minute ban. I played 53,000 match made games on 360 reach and far too many were hunting down one or two players gets annoying. They just need to go to the source with these modders. Glad you made this video you have large following to get attention to the issue here.. --- WAR x WITHIN
The problem with these program emulators/ESP's is that they are bought from online websites who rework them frequently so their subscribers can run rampant again and again no matter what the developers do to patch it.
Controller emulators with all sorts of aim and movement hacks are a whole other ball game because they run through controllers so there is nothing for the engine to actually detect unless something is built to assess the particular movement it enables.
I barely play Halo MCC Anymore becuz some of my friends don't want to Play it but now there are hackers in Online Sessions I hope 343 & Microsoft can fixed this issue
I doubt 343 is going to fix this anytime soon considering how Microsoft aren't interested in the MCC anymore and focusing more on Infinite. It's a shame that publishers like Activision and Microsoft just completely ignore the classic games fans love and want to play and just let it be infested with malicious people. It's evolved to the point where it's not a matter of "this guy is using wallhacks or aimbot", it's the fact that cheaters can now get your IP, personal data like your bank details or anything stored on your PC and install malicious content onto your PC in the case of Call of Duty. I'm surprised there hasn't been a lawsuit in those cases where publishers aren't being held responsible for causing damage to those that fell victim to having their personal data exploited through their service which they refuse to maintain properly. Then again, its not like it would be a winning battle against the big company.
This is actually one of the few good uses for AI. Have an AI monitor the packets coming into the server and look for abnormal behavior. Occasionally people as good as Mint Blitz will get false-flagged, but a verification system could prevent this.
This is why, I just play Offline Split screen Local play only, and thank God for the Bots on Halo Infinite.
Let's hope MCC, can Get Bots aswell soo we don't need to play online to play a full match of multiplayer.
It's like this everywhere. I play Battlefront II and playing a high health character like Clone Commando or Anakin and getting killed in 0.7 seconds flat at range by some guy with a CR-2 happens way too often. Other times it's even more obvious, like a flying Bossk.
Take Overwatch off that list they actually have close to no cheaters nowadays despite being a non invasive anticheat and a f2p game it's crazy. But it goes to show that IT IS possible to eliminate the problem.
I don't expect Halo to recieve that level of funding but they can at least get to the level of Star Wars Battlefront 2 or Battlefield 1, where cheating is extremely rare, doxxing doesn't happen, and impersonation bans aren't a thing. EA went back and killed most of the cheats in Battlefront 2 later even after support had ended for the game
That, or the game straight up not as popular pre-OW2. And its currently having an identity crisis.
I’m scared to even play multiplayer now because of cheaters
I have an idea, the player can change their tag once a year or make your own tag a one time then that tag will be locked and can’t be changed again until one year. This should solve this issue with the impersonation issue in MCC
I just want to point out that developers aren’t simply “letting it go on” like Mint says in the beginning of the video. Obviously anticheat is always evolving and it has to in order to keep up, but the reality is that it’s a balancing act between catching more hackers and punishing innocent people, as well as impacting performance if it gets too intrusive.
For example, if they make it can people who are flying, people like Mint who do stunts that send them through the air could get banned. An even better example is aim botting, combating which always risks targeting people with really good aim that aren’t cheating.
Long story short, it’s not a simple problem that can just be solved if only the developers would put more effort into it. There’s a lot more nuance to it.
An idea I've given thought about is what if 343 had a couple devs oversee a select group of fans such as big halo names, developers of big halo fan games like Eldewrito, Spv3, etc. To help regulate the game from cheaters, that way 343 doesnt have to have a ton of employees allocated to MCC and the game can still be moderated without fear of hackers.
Wow this highlights the lame and sad parts of humanity. There's no way a cheater was loved as a kid. Solution = love our kids. And maybe Halo 68 will be cheater-free.
Lmao many of these cheaters are trying to help the issue by loving kids but their attempts are usually misguided
I had to go through this with TF2 and Valve's negligence first, and now MCC and 343. They are my two favorite shooters of all time, and unlike TF2 a core part of Halo's experience is the matchmaker. There is no OG server browser like Valve games, and custom game lobbies for core gamemodes just doesn't feel the same.
Microsoft and Sony need to come together and sick their lawyers on these people who create these cheats
i can say as someone who messes with network stuff and code, its not easy to properly detect cheaters, most the time with network related stuff, but i agree, a community moderator like thing would be likely the best solution. It would also be probably the easiest solution as trying to remake a whole network code backend while not breaking the way the games were made to be played.
Cheaters are always annoying, thankfully I haven’t ran into any in Infinite or MCC. I hope you boys are as lucky as I’ve been
Bro had one walk into my customs just last night, damn right you're lucky lmao
@@hoomanperson236 DAMN, I didn’t know it was THAT BAD. Can’t even play customs…
@@hoomanperson236that reminds me of the ghost of lockout! I can't imagine how that's even possible or how a cheater even gets to that point in life that they're invading custom games
@@onelongwordable its worse on customs
Im glad to see my video of me getting killed by cheaters was used in the video at 0:14. 😅
This cheating thing has been a problem for awhile now. I uploaded my video like a year ago lol. Im glad some bigger names are finally talking about it.
Kinda sucks both the games I mainly play being titanfall 2 and halo mcc has cheaters that the devs will not do anything about. I get they are old games but no one can set aside some time to do anything?
Apex legends has blatant cheaters who stream and they are allowed to exist.
Modern multiplayer is annoying sometimes😅
Dame that's horrible I hope they fix it up for you all.... well I'm glad the fan in my xbox whent out back in 2022 but I feel really bad for you guys who have to put up with that shit though hope y'all are doing good to the best of your abilities
I never understood why people cheat in multiplayer I really just don't if it really just for the dopamine hit or for trolling that's just sad.
I don’t think we’ll ever understand, narcissism, god complex, who knows
Usually ego, look at wolf legion
@@thetriplejjj0177 Guess its a good thing I put all my God complex on SP games keeps it happy and contained.
The reason: small pp.
The only way this problem will ever get solved is if games return to a community structure, where servers are hosted (and thus also actively moderated) primarily by players
Reason I've started playing online FAR less often than I used to, cheaters who can't have fun unless they ruin other people's fun, or cheaters that do it because they don't want to actually earn their way through victory, or to make themselves feel better about their sad, sad lives
I’m so glad you’re talking about this! I was playing last night and ran into a hacker who was walking and running around lunging at people with huge amounts of range and having infinite ammo for his magnum and with his actions a bunch of people left the game and I don’t blame them, people like him ruin things and hopefully 343 can ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Otherwise Halo MCC is gonna be the exact state it was launched in.
0:32 I really hope you two are ok you guys shouldn't have your IP leaks while having a good time playing MCC, having your IP leak must be the scariest thing to happened, hope you two are doing alright 🙏
Remember when GTA V modders could change voltage settings to your pc's components and brick the whole thing? Good times.
Smurfs are also a huge problem on halo, and it could easily be fixed by making their matchmaking system better and more balanced
This is, in fact, a turn crossplay off moment if on Xbox.
I have been having an issue where my entire game crashes in Halo 3 multiplayer, wether I'm being booted out by a hacker or bad connection- I don't know. I keep getting temp bans for it tho. It seems to happen usually as I open the scoreboard, could be coincidental.
Also the issue with betrayals. Why is nobody getting kicked for team killing more than 3 times???? I retaliate and kill the same guy twice and that's me out.
I remember playing a TF2 match with two cheaters. Funny thing was, there was one on each team. The one guy was had an auto-aim for the sniper class, and the other guy gave himself extra health so it usually balanced out. Both of them were still killable, it was just harder to do. Some people wanted to kick them, others thought it was funny, and in the end we just decided that since both teams had one cheater and they both overall sucked so it evened out. Not gonna lie, it was still a fun match.
Though most of the time hackers and bots are just plain annoying, and they're frigging EVERYWHERE now! Kick them and they come right back again.
Funny I ran into a Cheater on Halo Infinite in BTB last night. But if Players were able to Moderate Halo how would we know who is cheating? they keep changing gamer tags on us so how would we know who the imposter is?
343 can’t really do much about the anti cheat sense it’s Epics anti cheat. So Epic would have to improve it on their end.
Quit bans werent a thing in Halo 3 because people could join mid game, whilst it was unfun to join mid losing it also allowed for more lobbies to continue. People complained back then but we really had it better
What about if 343 makes a halo insider 2.0 where u would act as a staff member in games so if u see a cheater or small stuff like someone purposely team killing u can report that person or remove them from the match or better yet ban that specific account I guess that’s pretty hard to do tho
343 not doing their jobs properly?😱
Who could imagine such a thing?
Not like they ever knew how to do their job to begin with, they've never made a Halo game half as good as any of the Bungie games.
Just like many AAA companies these days they're not half as competent as most indie devs.
Its interesting that with recent news of the Battlefront Classic Collection not having cross play with Xbox, PC and PS and how that's a negative thing for people. I actually see it as a positive now because of how many cheaters there are on PC games nowadays. Sure it still happens on console but its way worse on PC. I used to think PC gaming was the pinnacle of the gaming experience and while that may still be the case graphically I would rather sacrifice graphics for less cheaters and play on console. EVERY PC game should have not only a robust anti cheat system but the ability given to the players to report without the need to wait for the devs to respond to a ticket. I haven't played MCC multiplayer in months because I ran into the same cheater 3 games in a row. Sad shit.
I think you overestimate a little how many cheaters come from pc. Plenty of PC games don't have cheaters either it comes down to the developers and the community of the game. The minor silver lining to no cross play is that you don't have to make a third party account to play online with friends. From what I heard Aspyr is too small a studio without the resources or manpower to easily coordinate cross play between the big four platforms making a whole backend account system
Is cheating/hacking even possible on consoles? If not then that's just another reason for me to keep Cross-Platform off. I hate that "Cross-Platform" today just means casual joes vs. try-hard PC players and hackers. I miss when Cross-Platform was something to be excited about, but now I dread seeing it because it's never "Cross-Console" which is something I actually enjoy since it's a level playing field. But unfortunately the Console Wars exists and it's completely moronic, since it just means you have to play with the big boys on PC rather than hang out with other Console players.
Yes, im all in for console Crossplay for like COD, Fortnite or other multiplayer. PC no matter how much they try and try, it’s a lost cause to fight against cheaters, i mean, they are literally on a machine where they can code a new hack if they wanted to. Unlike console, even on XBOX 360 days, finding a Hacker wasn’t that common and use to be easy to report and make it disappear.
This is why I went back to play the old games a few years back. it’s way more fun and there is an actual community that supports the games. Oh also the nostalgia is too much to contend with.
2:23 The Arby n the Chief Tossers arc is In full swing Lmao
We've unironically gotten to a point were the arby n the chief Tossers might be established
Halo, Tarkov, Counter Strike, cheating is really becoming a major issue.
How are people having fun cheating?
If thry cant stop the cheaters at the very least remove the quit bans not just so it cant be used to troll, BUT SO WE CAN QUIT when we face this bs.
Vote to kick was such a common feature back in the day, i don't understand why it's not a thing any more. Anti cheat is so easy to do, i don't understand why so many games struggle with it
Screw this! I'm playing Helldivers 2...
Idk if theres really a solution for cheaters. Code is code. As many possibilities there are to code ways to stop cheaters, there are an equal amount of ways to code to get around those fixes. Even if youre having the code checked server side, that can be spoofed by altering packets before theyre sent.
Now, the method of punishing such hacks, like removing quick bans like you suggested, can be a positive change, just wont solve cheating as a whole. But it would remove a method of trolling others.
Additionally, before anyone suggests it, hardware/IP bans wouldnt work either. Those can also be spoofed.
Can some of these make it *harder* to cheat = less cheaters? Yes/no. Its only harder for a short time until one finds the solution, then its usually just as easy as it always has been for the bulk majority of the rest of the cheaters. A simple program install and youre good to go.
You could still use a vpn on console. VPN software doesn’t need to run on the device you’re using. You can put a physical device between your Xbox and gateway and it will just route through a vpn tunnel.
Cheating is a plague on the gaming industry. I watched a video recently that said a company has developed an AI-based anti-cheat that can detect 99% of cheaters within just a few games. The beauty of this approach is that it builds a profile based on the cheater's gameplay behavior. This means that even if the cheater creates a smurf account the AI anti-cheat can still recognize & ban them. Supposedly a couple of unnamed devs are testing out this new AI anti-cheat. I hope this is successful and takes off in the industry. The company behind it says that based on their testing they estimate that up to 30% of players are cheating in a game.
Seeing cheaters completely infest playlists and matches is actually sickening to me. They’re ruining the game, and for what??? Just so they can feed their ego?? It’s sad.😞
The FAMAS and AR15 combines to make the BR85... Pumba and Gosha (domestic desert lynx) use the M6D (Halo C.E.) and M7 smg or machine pistol.