The fans in these things are neat. The fan itself is a piece of cast metal (zine and aluminium alloy, or something) and has a round cone like the front of a jet engine. They're powered by high-performance brushless motors, the kind of thing you'd put in an RC aircraft. IIRC, they're 12v and at least 10A. There are ten of them, so that's at least 1200W of power from the fans alone, when at max. There's also no guard on the front, so it's best not to stick your finger down there if it's still spinning down. I've scrapped one of these c7000s before. Very fun.
I think I prefer this to some of the tear down video's, it's always good to see and hear equipment working, thanks for demonstrating a lot of the features that differentiate servers from desktop and home pc's. I realise it will not all ways be possible to power up equipment the way you did in this video. Thanks for posting.
Then you are basically a dumbass Its actually good seeing equipment being abused and destroyed rather than seeing it working when it work like a crap anyways
Cool video as usual. Used to work a lot with the C7000 before I moved to do cloud management - nice to see the iron again. Just one thing to keep in mind if you are considering actual usage of the RAID1 "cloning" mentioned at around 20:00 - it doesn't play nicely if you are using Windows and plan to, for example, join them to an AD domain afterwards. All of the clones will have the exact same SIDs, this tends to break lots of things, you should sysprep them beforehand or use a different method.
kakureru Whisper quiet? Hahahahaha either you don’t know what whisper quiet means or you’ve never worked with a C7000 enclosure. Where did you get that crap info from? Quiet was the least of the concerns when these were designed. They are mighty loud. Though the Dell M1000e still is worse on noise level.
And the good thing is that G10 blades still run in the oldest enclosure. Only if you want to go faster than 10Gbit/s, you need a newer backplane. Or was it 1G...? However, everything else works just update the OA firmware.
22:54 I usually turn on the display of kernel times, so I can compare user mode to kernel mode. I'm not sure if this would make any difference in your case.
With the right tools on dell machines at least, you can quieten down the jet engine fans. Granted I don't have a blade centre in my rack, but the two Dell R730XD's are whisper quiet after their initial 747 ish sounding fan noise while they boot. Once one of my linux VM's come up it runs a script to get temperature information from the BMC/iDRAC and adjusts the fans accordingy. My fridge is noisier than the servers.
danke für das Video, ich habe bisher keine laufenden blades gesehen. hier stehen 3 bladeserver mit g7 und g8(?) in Einzelteilen. was meinst du, zerlegen und in Einzelteilen verkaufen, oder alles mal testen und im ganzen verkaufen?
Meine Erfahrung ist, dass das C7000 Gehäuse gebraucht fast nix wert ist. Die Dinger stehen überall herum und keiner will sie. G7 Server kannst Du verschenken, da kriegst Du auch nix dafür. Vermutlich hast du eine Chance wenn Du es als komplett lauffähiges System an einen Hobby-Bastler verkaufst. Allerdings nur mit Abholung, sonst kostet der Versand ein Vermögen. ;-)
Hi from Germany! 2 thumbs up. Question : may you tell me /us what beautiful usb /232 and adapter cable FTDI chips? But them you can't Change straight or NULL mode tnx
:-) The adapter I built is decribed in this video ruclips.net/video/FzQpv5nzhjA/видео.html For the USB to serial converter, I don't know. It's just one that I bought. Nothing special.
+Play with Junk, Everyone loves to complain about the noise of how loud it is. However, what they don't realize is that, that is only upon initial startup. This is due to thermistors inside the cooling fans & the servers themselves. They sample the ambient room temperature & adjust their fan speed accordingly. Apparently, one of the more recent OA firmware updates also addressed this issue being miss-reported.
That's right. If only one or two servers are running, the C7000 is relatively silent compared with others (like the SUN 6000). But when a fan fails it turns up the sound :-)
I'm confused what the difference is between chassis leakage current compared to ground leakage current and Enclosure leakage current, are they the same thing or what is the differences?
What did they use to test EKG ECG machines before using a Patient simulator? what are the common parts to replace change in an EKG ECG machine, any testing you do on them?
The main Fans in the Back are quite powerful, about 200W at max. Probably only in failure prevent mode or so. But you can modify them, if you want to build a Leave Blower.
I tried it but they won't run outside the enclosure. There is a lot of digital chatting between the fans and the OA. The fans are very nice... brushless DC impellers like some RC model engines.
is it the versin with the Step-up inside? there is a Enable pin wich must be pulled on high(it switches a mosfet on) and then there is a Pin on the PCB wich you can pull on GND, to get full speed. abload.de/img/blade_fan_pwmg6pzl.jpg and the enable pin, abload.de/img/enabletisuj.jpg One thing, for fullspeed you need a Powersuply with at least 17A
Thanks for the information. I will try that... I was tinkering with these fans before that and I managed it to work at minimum speed. Maybe that's the solution!
It works... thank you for that. Too bad that most fans are a more modern version without DC/DC converter. But I'm sure they can be hacked too. I just built a smal RC race car with two HP fans as drive. When I get the batteries from Hobbyking and everything works, I will do a video about it :-)))
The minimum number of power supplies is 2. What happens if you take one PS out depends on how you configured the power system. For example if you configured no redundancy, the power of all PS is just combined, so you get 2x2250W=5500W max. with two PS. If you take one out, available power will drop to 2250W. Now it depends on how many servers you have installed. If there is only one server, it will most likely keep running.... if you have more servers, some will be shut down while others keep running. Google: HP C7000 Power Supply Configuration ;-)
@@PlaywithJunk one question here.. I went to one of my client he is using c7000, as per HP the SFP module of San switch was faulty I went to check this complain where I found I am not able to go into ILO through web it redirect me to java error something. Where same if I putty I could it let me directly login to SAN Switch configuration. I took out one Node of SAN swicth out and put it back but led lights are in amber and not turning to green.
@@akhtartherocks Yes the Java Problem is annoying. You may use EMC "VNX Laucher" which is a standalone Firefox browser with Java built in. For the amber light, you need to check the C7000 Onboard Admin to see what's wrong. Maybe just plugging it out/in again will fix it.
VERY insightful tour of this machine.. I feel I can run one now .. .Thank you for the time spent with making this ... At 11:22 You mentioned the network switches has 20 ports, How are the internal 16 ports accessed ? I have to second Bob Johnson's question from 2 months ago that doesn't appear to be answered Do you sell any of these if so How ? Thanks
They are already sold.... sorry. The internal ports of the switches are directly connected to the blade slots by the backplane. Plug in blade number 1 and it connects to switch port nr1. Just internal wiring, no magic. The blades have a second network port that connects to a second switch (in interconnect slot 2, backside) giving you another 16 internal ports to use.
Do you know much about EMC's products? I have a "disk proccessing enclosure" (has no USB or VGA ports) from their VNX 5300 SAN. I'm hoping that break out cable is compatible; it looks the same. EMC must not of liked the idea of local access by the end user; the port is on the back of the enclosure and covered by an inconspicuous sticker. You have one hell of an awesome setup there by the way.
I don't know much abut the newer VNX systems. I stopped using EMC in the CX age. But as far as I know they still have a serial port which is used to initially set the IP address to access the GUI. It is labelled with a small wrench. On the CX it was necessary to setup a PPP serial connection because the CX port acted like a modem. Then you could access it with a web browser through the serial line.
hans3123 Yes, on every CPU that is so. But now a days, it looks extrem, because the idle consumption isn't that high, as at older CPUs. The Opteron also need an big amount of power, but in usecases with rsa encryption operations, the newer, bulldozer based Opterons need a lot of power, but they be also very powerful. That's because their module based design. With primeoperation, theres a bottleneck, so a 8 core Opteron works like an other 4 core cpu, because one important thing at the operationloading design is not refuant, as the other parts, so that ~40% off the DIE isn't working.
We will try to sell as many as possible. But I fear we will have to scrap some. Interest is not so great for these servers. There are a lot on the market.
Play with Junk Hi, ich hab schon ein älteres C7000, nur immo zuwenig Blades, suche noch BL460c G6 oder G7 Blades. Habt ihr was da? Oder habt ihr was alternatives zu den Bl460c? habe immo eh nur 4, sprich ein Wechsel der einzelnen Blades wäre denkbar. Wie viel effizienter ist dieses "Gehege", was ihr da habt? Eures sieht nach "13er Version aus, meines ist wohl 2009, oder älter, da die PSU von 06,07 und 08 sind, ich habs erst seit kurzem, da ich aber nun noch nicht dazugekommen bin, es einzurichten, weiss ich es noch nicht effektiv. Ihr könnt mich bitte unter [DJANG0.RYFF3L(at)BLU3WIN.C8] [lasse "[]" weg, statt 0 O, statt 3 E, statt 8 H und alles klein] anschreiben, oder unter der Kubikwurzel von positiv729730929962851502E31 anrufen. Gruss Django
Yes. I have a generation 1 enclosure and even Gen9 blades work without problem. I don't know if the network connections are fully supported but as far as I know even the Gen1 enclosure can handle 10Gbits per port. Important is to have the newest firmware on the OA module.
The HP D3700 enclosure has no login. It's just a SAS expansion box that connects to a HP Smart Array controller. You need SAS cables with a Mini-SAS connector on the D3700 end and a connector that suits your RAID controller at the other end. (Was that a trick question?) It also works with non-HP controllers but some extra functions like signal LEDs will probably not work. I recently used one together with a HP Smart Array P431 (with external connectors) One cable connected to one I/O port of the D3700 is enough. You only need more cables for redundancy or to connect more boxes.
@@aroshsenanayaka4210 OK... again... The D3700 is just a box full of disks. When you shut down the server, that's all you need to do. Imagine the D3700 just like the internal disks of the server, only in a separate box. There is no shutdown procedure for the D3700 itself.... The disks will shut down when the raid controller inside the server shuts down, when the server shuts down. I don't know if there are different controllers for the D3700 but then it's not a D3700 anymore... www.istoragenetworks.com/servermanuals/HPE-D3600-D3700-Disk-Enclosure-Maintenance-Service-Guide.pdf
@@aroshsenanayaka4210 Or do you mean how to power it down after the server shut down? Well... just pull the power plugs! That's all you can do. Is there a power button on the backside? I don't remember....
@@PlaywithJunk in a situation like a cooling fan failure, ways to detect it are the indication lights or IO module codes ? there is no way to get logs (AHS)
There are a lot of used IT stuff brokers all around the globe. An empty C7000 with power supplies and fans costs $500. Blade servers depend on the model. A generation-7 (G7) server costs almost nothing while a brand new G10 can be $10'000 and more. My situation is that we work for many large companies and when they replace old equipment, we sell the new stuff and take the old back. That's where most of my stuff comes from. We would like to sell our old devices but that's a lot of extra work. And shipping heavy items overseas is very expensive, especially now. Most people don't want to pay that...
@Asura Just the 20mm chassis fan alone, like a small jet engine in idle. The chassis fan and CPU fan on max though, more like a much larger jet engine (no where compared to this monster though!)
Can you please tell me more about where you got the serial cable you are using? Looks like it might be a kit spliced on a cable but I am interested in one. Thanks
Ah...OK. This is self made. It's quite simple, just a switch that crosses RX and TX and a red and green LED for RX and TX each. The green LED lights up at positive voltage (ref. ground) and the red for negative voltage. Maximum voltage on RS232 is about +/- 12V maybe 15. If both green LED are on, then you know that the switch is set correct. I added four reverse protection diodes (one for each LED) and four resistors... that's it.
What output voltage are the power supplies. if they are 24v that would be good for charging large RC batteries. I would expect the new blade systems would be a lot quieter. Do they have warnings about having to use ear protection. Another interesting video. Cheers Dave.
Depends, some have intergrated management features which connect to the remote control subsystem (usually an ARM or similar chip running a lightweight *Nix with webserver) meaning getting them to work outside of the system is very tricky... Normal server power supplies are usually easier to power up outside the system after you figure out the pinout but these blade systems rely a lot on calculating power flow through the system...
hows it? We re planing to buy 12 blades systems , vendor offers C7000 series filled up 12 blades each for my new data-center. planing to buy 6 of those.
@@PlaywithJunk We not bought yet but planing to buy C7000 with G9 or G10 whatever warranty for longer time HW Support. but I am collecting reviews hows those blades. becasue we never used in out environment we used HP DL380P etc servers but those growing my data center too much racks. so want to get rid-off from those and want blade systems.
@@inbedf Well, the blades are as reliable as the DL servers. We currently encouter many defects on the Gen8 with faulty iLO-flash chips (used for logfiles etc.). Gen9 servers had a couple of failed boards due to onboard power issues, but not in an alarming rate and only with DL servers, not blades. We don't have many Gen9 or Gen10 blades yet, so I can't tell you anything about the reliability on those. But if you buy new stuff, I would go for the Gen10 where hopefully some problems of the earlier generations are fixed... ... and no new problems were built in :-)
Crazy setup (compared to regular computers)... What would one do with hardware like this? Would it run webservers, databases, rendering, remote desktops...?
1hdsquad we used one to run aerodynamic simulations... It still took days to complete a 10 second simulation of a simple jet turbine with simplified models
They run just about anything in situations where 'normal' servers are too large/space in the datacenter is expensive enough to justify blades. As long as there are a lot of smaller tasks (such as a few webservers, DC's and so on and not 1 heavy application which would require 1 big bulky server instead of many blades.
They are like normal HP Proliant servers, you can use them for all the tasks you listed. There are of course different models. You can have blades with 2 CPU's that are less powerful. The modern way is to have one powerful server and do some virtualization. But if you like physical servers you can take blades.
@@PlaywithJunk Yea they give the best airflow. Will do, and I have seen some of these types of fans on YT before and they are insane and kinda lethal what it seems att full rpm.
What kind of power conditioner is that? and would 2 30amp 220v outlets be sufficient in supplying power? I will be getting one soon myself. Great vid btw.
220V x 30A = 6600W two such outputs = 13200W Theoretical maximum power consumption of the C7000 is 14400W (2400W x 6) If you connect 3 power supplies to one outlet and 3 to the other, this should work without any problems, no matter how many servers you install. I have never used the full power capacity of the enclosure... And if you set the power supplies into any redundancy mode (3+3 or 5+1) the maximum available power will reduce anyway. So don't worry :-)
HP calls it a Blade KVM (keyboard video mouse) adapter or Diagnostic I/O Adapter. It is simply a cable with that special connector on one end and VGA, USB and serial on the other end.
Hi, how do you do? I have to recover the password of an enclosure; but I don't have the cable; what cable do I need to recover the access to the enclosure Do you have an useful diagram
I think you are talking about the OA (onboard adminitrator) password. There is a 9pin serial connector on the OA module. What you need is a "null modem" cable with female DB-9 connectors on both ends. three wires: 5---5 2---3 3---2 Then you need to do this: To recover the password and reset the administrator password to the factory default: Connect a computer to the serial port of the Active Onboard Administrator using a null-modem cable. Open HyperTerminal (in Microsoft Windows) or a suitable terminal window (in Linux) and connect to the Active Onboard Administrator . 9600 8N1 no flowcontrol Press and hold in the HP BladeSystem Onboard Administrator reset button for 5 seconds. Press L to boot the system into Lost Password mode. The password resets to default and appears on the screen as it reboots. Password are now the same as on the factory label.
Depends the c7000 is still used today. You can get more modern bladesthat are built for storage some built for core count and even Gpu blades for gpu passthrough for virtual machines. I bought a c3000 and use it for virtual machines in my house
There are pretty much only boot up drives in such blades (if there are any), all storage will be located on SAN connected storage. We use HP 3Pars for storage in combination with about 80 of these C7000 blade enclosures, all fully loaded up with 16 blades each. They're an awesome piece of tech.
I am not sure if the OS will like you copying it like you have suggested. You won't have a unique GUID, unless you haven't joined the servers to a domain prior to copying them to a new server.
Nope.... because it’s more indented for web application a best example is a website And it has no graphics cars.... it cannot even play Minecraft at 720p
I have lots of 2U Proliant servers dual CPU 8cores , 10 cores 128gb , OS vsphere ESXI hosts, 8GB Fibre and 10Gb network with dual ports cards each, that is mess wiring of Fiber cables, 15servers in 1 rack, I have 3 racks of those servers , but now those are junk no support soon, I am looking for replacement. Do you recommended C7000 total 4 enclosures with blades HPE ProLiant BL460c Gen10 6248 2P 20 core 256GB each blade servers? what kind of FC - Fibre cards or slots did we get to connect storage, also how many 10 GB cards or slots I can use. My vendor told use 8 ports (4+4) redudancy , 10GB 8 ports (4+4) 2 slots on blade. can you explain more.
Flash forward to 2020, Your servers have BOINC, so you can donate compute power to Rosetta@home to help researchers find treatment for COVID-19, and join Folding@home at the same time (same research goal), as well.
Hmmm.... you know what? That was exactly what I did since easter 2020. I'm using BOINC since a long time to test my servers. On easter I switched them all to Rosetta and used some additional 8-CPU servers as well. I think I did some good work within one week ;-)
Got quite tempted to buy one of these for €1000 on eBay to use for BOINC however don't think the neighbours or my electric bill would appreciate a hidden fighter jet in the garage/attic 😂.
Play with Junk There are many ways that are more easy than to setup boinc. What I didn't consider is that you have just to setup one machine and it's ofcourse a boost for your score on the different projects.
I have one of these, loaded up with 16 Intel based G7 blades. We've got about 80 of these blade enclosures, all fully loaded up, at my work and when they need replacing, employees get a chance of buying one or more. I took the chance when I had it last year. It's an awesome piece of tech, but SO unnecessary at anywhere else than a corporate data center.
@@benedykt123313 do they work from 3 phase power? Family friend and father of one of the scouts in my troop has one of these and proliant server sitting in his garage doing nothing. He bought it to work on for homelab. I have mad idea to make VM environment as classroom computer room for scout troop (he also has some zero clients)
@@liammhodonohue Yeah as I recall correctly there are two versions; one with 2x CEE16-5p and one with 6x C19 (2 for each phase). And while you technically could power that version with two phases, you will imbalance the power supply grid and there's no redundancy. Hell you could power the beast with a single phase as long as your main breaker is heavy enough.
Check for government auctions. Here in Alberta, the provincial government has a C7000 and C3000 on the auction site starting at $50.00. I think that I would still hear the fans even with my closet closed in my bedroom. It may keep the upstairs neighbours awake at night.
Pressing the Reset button on the OA module does nothing but rebooting the OA. Servers will continue to work without interruption. But I know about an incident where someone pushed the "emergency power off" button in a datacenter... that was dramatic! The button was next to the exit door and a worker was not careful with the ladder he carried around. Others say it was pushed intentionally to see what happens. Bank datacenters calculate in million$ per second. Guess what happens if that goes down for a minute...
@@PlaywithJunk When that has happened you of course hate the ridiculously long boot times of servers. A home PC would be back in a minute, but these servers easily take a minute to realize that they have powered on and tell that to the world, then the 5 minutes to get through the BIOS screens only starts... :-(
C7000 you are cleared for takeoff.
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The fans in these things are neat. The fan itself is a piece of cast metal (zine and aluminium alloy, or something) and has a round cone like the front of a jet engine. They're powered by high-performance brushless motors, the kind of thing you'd put in an RC aircraft. IIRC, they're 12v and at least 10A. There are ten of them, so that's at least 1200W of power from the fans alone, when at max. There's also no guard on the front, so it's best not to stick your finger down there if it's still spinning down. I've scrapped one of these c7000s before. Very fun.
I think I prefer this to some of the tear down video's, it's always good to see and hear equipment working, thanks for demonstrating a lot of the features that differentiate servers from desktop and home pc's. I realise it will not all ways be possible to power up equipment the way you did in this video. Thanks for posting.
Unfortunately most machines do not work anymore when I get them. But I agree with you... I do also like videos with working machines.
Play with Junk do you ever sell any of these ?
They aren't very different.. just louder and more expensive :)
Then you are basically a dumbass
Its actually good seeing equipment being abused and destroyed rather than seeing it working when it work like a crap anyways
@@RizLazey the fuck
4kw draw at idle?! Thank you for this - my life is almost complete!
:-)
£500 a month in electric bills in the UK - just for idle
Well it said at around 6:43 110W on one of the PSU:s.
@@dtiydr
ONE Of the PSU's. That thing has like 5+
it sounds like a jet engine :)
It uses fans that are basically EDFs from R/C jets.
Thanks God I saw this, my idea of buying used blade server for home lab has been dropped :D
i have a bladecenter rofl, yes its that loud
Love it! I have 3 (and originally more) C7000 chassis under my management. Also a few C3000's as well.
Cool video as usual. Used to work a lot with the C7000 before I moved to do cloud management - nice to see the iron again.
Just one thing to keep in mind if you are considering actual usage of the RAID1 "cloning" mentioned at around 20:00 - it doesn't play nicely if you are using Windows and plan to, for example, join them to an AD domain afterwards. All of the clones will have the exact same SIDs, this tends to break lots of things, you should sysprep them beforehand or use a different method.
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nice rig! I miss my IT days and all the cool stuff I used to end up with.
Awesome! I always wondered how blade servers worked/get configured! Thanks for sharing!
Excellent Video. this is the first time i saw Blade chassis and servers and how they are working.... 😊
Its amazing that this machine is just now a bunch of VMs and/or docker containers. Threadripper go brrrr
These servers are whisper quiet. Your tinnitus is clearly acting up.
kakureru Whisper quiet? Hahahahaha either you don’t know what whisper quiet means or you’ve never worked with a C7000 enclosure. Where did you get that crap info from? Quiet was the least of the concerns when these were designed. They are mighty loud. Though the Dell M1000e still is worse on noise level.
@@jerryidakabor8182 I think you misunderstood his comment, fuckface.
@@jerryidakabor8182 At boot they are flying off, but later on the fans turn quite a bit down. I've worked with both the HP C7000 as the Dell M1000.
@@jerryidakabor8182 So... you're sarcasm impaired, aren't you???
C7000 is still in use today; BL460c Gen 10 is the current, and last, blade model of the platform.
Synergy is the new stuff that replaces it.
And the good thing is that G10 blades still run in the oldest enclosure. Only if you want to go faster than 10Gbit/s, you need a newer backplane. Or was it 1G...? However, everything else works just update the OA firmware.
If you remove the OA adapters while the system is running, the fans will all go to 100% at once. The servers will continue to operate just fine.
22:54 I usually turn on the display of kernel times, so I can compare user mode to kernel mode. I'm not sure if this would make any difference in your case.
With the right tools on dell machines at least, you can quieten down the jet engine fans. Granted I don't have a blade centre in my rack, but the two Dell R730XD's are whisper quiet after their initial 747 ish sounding fan noise while they boot. Once one of my linux VM's come up it runs a script to get temperature information from the BMC/iDRAC and adjusts the fans accordingy. My fridge is noisier than the servers.
danke für das Video, ich habe bisher keine laufenden blades gesehen. hier stehen 3 bladeserver mit g7 und g8(?) in Einzelteilen. was meinst du, zerlegen und in Einzelteilen verkaufen, oder alles mal testen und im ganzen verkaufen?
Meine Erfahrung ist, dass das C7000 Gehäuse gebraucht fast nix wert ist. Die Dinger stehen überall herum und keiner will sie. G7 Server kannst Du verschenken, da kriegst Du auch nix dafür.
Vermutlich hast du eine Chance wenn Du es als komplett lauffähiges System an einen Hobby-Bastler verkaufst.
Allerdings nur mit Abholung, sonst kostet der Versand ein Vermögen. ;-)
Should be an HP 747-8!
Hi from Germany! 2 thumbs up. Question : may you tell me /us what beautiful usb /232 and adapter cable FTDI chips? But them you can't Change straight or NULL mode tnx
:-) The adapter I built is decribed in this video ruclips.net/video/FzQpv5nzhjA/видео.html
For the USB to serial converter, I don't know. It's just one that I bought. Nothing special.
apart from the fan noise I enjoyed this informative video. I could almost smell the tech
+Play with Junk, Everyone loves to complain about the noise of how loud it is. However, what they don't realize is that, that is only upon initial startup. This is due to thermistors inside the cooling fans & the servers themselves. They sample the ambient room temperature & adjust their fan speed accordingly. Apparently, one of the more recent OA firmware updates also addressed this issue being miss-reported.
That's right. If only one or two servers are running, the C7000 is relatively silent compared with others (like the SUN 6000). But when a fan fails it turns up the sound :-)
I'm confused what the difference is between chassis leakage current compared to ground leakage current and Enclosure leakage current, are they the same thing or what is the differences?
Do you still have some of these available? I am highly interested.
What did they use to test EKG ECG machines before using a Patient simulator? what are the common parts to replace change in an EKG ECG machine, any testing you do on them?
As I mentioned before... I do not repair or work with those devices. I just find them from time to time in the scrap container.
The main Fans in the Back are quite powerful, about 200W at max. Probably only in failure prevent mode or so. But you can modify them, if you want to build a Leave Blower.
I tried it but they won't run outside the enclosure. There is a lot of digital chatting between the fans and the OA. The fans are very nice... brushless DC impellers like some RC model engines.
is it the versin with the Step-up inside?
there is a Enable pin wich must be pulled on high(it switches a mosfet on) and then there is a Pin on the PCB wich you can pull on GND, to get full speed. abload.de/img/blade_fan_pwmg6pzl.jpg
and the enable pin, abload.de/img/enabletisuj.jpg
One thing, for fullspeed you need a Powersuply with at least 17A
Thanks for the information. I will try that...
I was tinkering with these fans before that and I managed it to work at minimum speed. Maybe that's the solution!
It works... thank you for that. Too bad that most fans are a more modern version without DC/DC converter. But I'm sure they can be hacked too.
I just built a smal RC race car with two HP fans as drive. When I get the batteries from Hobbyking and everything works, I will do a video about it :-)))
As I am completely new here, I want to ask How many SMPS is required to run this machine. What will happen if we take out one SMPS while running.
The minimum number of power supplies is 2.
What happens if you take one PS out depends on how you configured the power system. For example if you configured no redundancy, the power of all PS is just combined, so you get 2x2250W=5500W max. with two PS.
If you take one out, available power will drop to 2250W. Now it depends on how many servers you have installed. If there is only one server, it will most likely keep running.... if you have more servers, some will be shut down while others keep running.
Google: HP C7000 Power Supply Configuration ;-)
@@PlaywithJunk one question here.. I went to one of my client he is using c7000, as per HP the SFP module of San switch was faulty I went to check this complain where I found I am not able to go into ILO through web it redirect me to java error something. Where same if I putty I could it let me directly login to SAN Switch configuration.
I took out one Node of SAN swicth out and put it back but led lights are in amber and not turning to green.
@@akhtartherocks Yes the Java Problem is annoying. You may use EMC "VNX Laucher" which is a standalone Firefox browser with Java built in.
For the amber light, you need to check the C7000 Onboard Admin to see what's wrong. Maybe just plugging it out/in again will fix it.
VERY insightful tour of this machine.. I feel I can run one now .. .Thank you for the time spent with making this ... At 11:22 You mentioned the network switches has 20 ports, How are the internal 16 ports accessed ? I have to second Bob Johnson's question from 2 months ago that doesn't appear to be answered
Do you sell any of these if so How ? Thanks
They are already sold.... sorry.
The internal ports of the switches are directly connected to the blade slots by the backplane. Plug in blade number 1 and it connects to switch port nr1. Just internal wiring, no magic. The blades have a second network port that connects to a second switch (in interconnect slot 2, backside) giving you another 16 internal ports to use.
You are clear to take off.
Do you know much about EMC's products? I have a "disk proccessing enclosure" (has no USB or VGA ports) from their VNX 5300 SAN. I'm hoping that break out cable is compatible; it looks the same. EMC must not of liked the idea of local access by the end user; the port is on the back of the enclosure and covered by an inconspicuous sticker. You have one hell of an awesome setup there by the way.
I don't know much abut the newer VNX systems. I stopped using EMC in the CX age. But as far as I know they still have a serial port which is used to initially set the IP address to access the GUI. It is labelled with a small wrench. On the CX it was necessary to setup a PPP serial connection because the CX port acted like a modem. Then you could access it with a web browser through the serial line.
Will the Prime 95 torture test draw significantly more power on Opterons (like it does on newer intel CPUS)?
hans3123 Yes, on every CPU that is so. But now a days, it looks extrem, because the idle consumption isn't that high, as at older CPUs.
The Opteron also need an big amount of power, but in usecases with rsa encryption operations, the newer, bulldozer based Opterons need a lot of power, but they be also very powerful. That's because their module based design. With primeoperation, theres a bottleneck, so a 8 core Opteron works like an other 4 core cpu, because one important thing at the operationloading design is not refuant, as the other parts, so that ~40% off the DIE isn't working.
Thank you for the video. You will still use the servers or they ripped apart for recycling?
I was asking myself the same. The only thing speaking against these is the power consumption. These would cost up to a 1000 EUR per month to run 24/7.
We will try to sell as many as possible. But I fear we will have to scrap some. Interest is not so great for these servers. There are a lot on the market.
For how much would these sell?
How much are you willing to pay for one?
Play with Junk Hi, ich hab schon ein älteres C7000, nur immo zuwenig Blades, suche noch BL460c G6 oder G7 Blades. Habt ihr was da? Oder habt ihr was alternatives zu den Bl460c? habe immo eh nur 4, sprich ein Wechsel der einzelnen Blades wäre denkbar.
Wie viel effizienter ist dieses "Gehege", was ihr da habt? Eures sieht nach "13er Version aus, meines ist wohl 2009, oder älter, da die PSU von 06,07 und 08 sind, ich habs erst seit kurzem, da ich aber nun noch nicht dazugekommen bin, es einzurichten, weiss ich es noch nicht effektiv.
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The C7000 is still on HP catalog. Does a older revision enclosure handles blades from newer generations just fine?
Yes. I have a generation 1 enclosure and even Gen9 blades work without problem. I don't know if the network connections are fully supported but as far as I know even the Gen1 enclosure can handle 10Gbits per port. Important is to have the newest firmware on the OA module.
Hi... can you advice me how to login to HP D3700 enclosure... what cables do i have to use ? to which ports (Mfg) ?
The HP D3700 enclosure has no login. It's just a SAS expansion box that connects to a HP Smart Array controller.
You need SAS cables with a Mini-SAS connector on the D3700 end and a connector that suits your RAID controller at the other end.
(Was that a trick question?)
It also works with non-HP controllers but some extra functions like signal LEDs will probably not work.
I recently used one together with a HP Smart Array P431 (with external connectors)
One cable connected to one I/O port of the D3700 is enough. You only need more cables for redundancy or to connect more boxes.
@@PlaywithJunk Thank you for the reply
@@aroshsenanayaka4210 OK... again... The D3700 is just a box full of disks. When you shut down the server, that's all you need to do. Imagine the D3700 just like the internal disks of the server, only in a separate box. There is no shutdown procedure for the D3700 itself.... The disks will shut down when the raid controller inside the server shuts down, when the server shuts down.
I don't know if there are different controllers for the D3700 but then it's not a D3700 anymore...
www.istoragenetworks.com/servermanuals/HPE-D3600-D3700-Disk-Enclosure-Maintenance-Service-Guide.pdf
@@aroshsenanayaka4210 Or do you mean how to power it down after the server shut down? Well... just pull the power plugs! That's all you can do. Is there a power button on the backside? I don't remember....
@@PlaywithJunk in a situation like a cooling fan failure, ways to detect it are the indication lights or IO module codes ? there is no way to get logs (AHS)
Where on earth have you found servers like this!? I've found limited selection, usually the higher cost of ~$10,000 range too.
There are a lot of used IT stuff brokers all around the globe. An empty C7000 with power supplies and fans costs $500. Blade servers depend on the model. A generation-7 (G7) server costs almost nothing while a brand new G10 can be $10'000 and more.
My situation is that we work for many large companies and when they replace old equipment, we sell the new stuff and take the old back. That's where most of my stuff comes from.
We would like to sell our old devices but that's a lot of extra work. And shipping heavy items overseas is very expensive, especially now. Most people don't want to pay that...
Wow so beautiful voice..... reminds me of 2009’s
I don't think I'll ever own one of these, but this video is very interesting.
I think the little 20mm fan in my Barracuda Web Filter 310 just met its match in the noise department...
@Asura Just the 20mm chassis fan alone, like a small jet engine in idle. The chassis fan and CPU fan on max though, more like a much larger jet engine (no where compared to this monster though!)
I have a ML350p Gen8 in my bedroom now and it has quad 98mm. I thought it was loud, but this blade system... jesus I might go deaf.
Can you please tell me more about where you got the serial cable you are using? Looks like it might be a kit spliced on a cable but I am interested in one. Thanks
There is nothing special about that cable. DB9-female plugs on both ends. Connections are 2-3, 3-2, 5-5
I am asking about the cable at the 1:38 mark of the video that allows switching between null modem and straight through
Ah...OK. This is self made. It's quite simple, just a switch that crosses RX and TX and a red and green LED for RX and TX each. The green LED lights up at positive voltage (ref. ground) and the red for negative voltage. Maximum voltage on RS232 is about +/- 12V maybe 15.
If both green LED are on, then you know that the switch is set correct.
I added four reverse protection diodes (one for each LED) and four resistors... that's it.
What output voltage are the power supplies. if they are 24v that would be good for charging large RC batteries. I would expect the new blade systems would be a lot quieter. Do they have warnings about having to use ear protection. Another interesting video. Cheers Dave.
Depends, some have intergrated management features which connect to the remote control subsystem (usually an ARM or similar chip running a lightweight *Nix with webserver) meaning getting them to work outside of the system is very tricky...
Normal server power supplies are usually easier to power up outside the system after you figure out the pinout but these blade systems rely a lot on calculating power flow through the system...
HP C7000 power supply: 12.2V 200A max.
IBM Blade Center H p.s.:12V 260A max.
How much do you want for such a bladecenter?
Hi, Nice info & implementation..
hows it? We re planing to buy 12 blades systems , vendor offers C7000 series filled up 12 blades each for my new data-center. planing to buy 6 of those.
Nice... what blades do you buy? gen8 9 10?
@@PlaywithJunk We not bought yet but planing to buy C7000 with G9 or G10 whatever warranty for longer time HW Support. but I am collecting reviews hows those blades. becasue we never used in out environment we used HP DL380P etc servers but those growing my data center too much racks. so want to get rid-off from those and want blade systems.
@@PlaywithJunk tell me your experience.
@@inbedf Well, the blades are as reliable as the DL servers. We currently encouter many defects on the Gen8 with faulty iLO-flash chips (used for logfiles etc.). Gen9 servers had a couple of failed boards due to onboard power issues, but not in an alarming rate and only with DL servers, not blades.
We don't have many Gen9 or Gen10 blades yet, so I can't tell you anything about the reliability on those. But if you buy new stuff, I would go for the Gen10 where hopefully some problems of the earlier generations are fixed...
... and no new problems were built in :-)
Crazy setup (compared to regular computers)... What would one do with hardware like this? Would it run webservers, databases, rendering, remote desktops...?
1hdsquad we used one to run aerodynamic simulations... It still took days to complete a 10 second simulation of a simple jet turbine with simplified models
They run just about anything in situations where 'normal' servers are too large/space in the datacenter is expensive enough to justify blades. As long as there are a lot of smaller tasks (such as a few webservers, DC's and so on and not 1 heavy application which would require 1 big bulky server instead of many blades.
They are like normal HP Proliant servers, you can use them for all the tasks you listed. There are of course different models. You can have blades with 2 CPU's that are less powerful.
The modern way is to have one powerful server and do some virtualization. But if you like physical servers you can take blades.
Für Anwendungen wie 3ds Max etc. eignen sich diese, oder zum heizen und CAS@home.
6:38 Fan information:
Maximum speed: 18000
Yea, its a server alright.
The fans in the C7000 are said to be developed from RC impeller turbines. Check my "Jetcar" video.... (PWJ67)
@@PlaywithJunk Yea they give the best airflow. Will do, and I have seen some of these types of fans on YT before and they are insane and kinda lethal what it seems att full rpm.
@@PlaywithJunk That was a cool video. :)
shall I run ESXI 6.7 on this?
What kind of power conditioner is that? and would 2 30amp 220v outlets be sufficient in supplying power? I will be getting one soon myself. Great vid btw.
220V x 30A = 6600W two such outputs = 13200W
Theoretical maximum power consumption of the C7000 is 14400W (2400W x 6)
If you connect 3 power supplies to one outlet and 3 to the other, this should work without any problems, no matter how many servers you install.
I have never used the full power capacity of the enclosure...
And if you set the power supplies into any redundancy mode (3+3 or 5+1) the maximum available power will reduce anyway. So don't worry :-)
I never knew you had an F-15!
Hello, I have one of this, but it doesn’t work, could you help me?
write me an email to playwithjunk@gmail.com and we can discuss the problem….
My hair dryer consumes only 1200 W max. :-(
what is that adapter you were using to swap screens from one blade to the next
HP calls it a Blade KVM (keyboard video mouse) adapter or Diagnostic I/O Adapter. It is simply a cable with that special connector on one end and VGA, USB and serial on the other end.
I ran Win XP on an old HP G3 with a 24 (I think) drive array in my living room, connected to a plasma TV. Conversations were impossible; it was great.
That was a great video....I mean the explanation and everything from the scratch...
Thanks
Hi, how do you do? I have to recover the password of an enclosure; but I don't have the cable; what cable do I need to recover the access to the enclosure Do you have an useful diagram
I think you are talking about the OA (onboard adminitrator) password. There is a 9pin serial connector on the OA module. What you need is a "null modem" cable with female DB-9 connectors on both ends.
three wires:
5---5
2---3
3---2
Then you need to do this:
To recover the password and reset the administrator password to the factory default:
Connect a computer to the serial port of the Active Onboard Administrator using a null-modem cable.
Open HyperTerminal (in Microsoft Windows) or a suitable terminal window (in Linux) and connect to the Active Onboard
Administrator . 9600 8N1 no flowcontrol
Press and hold in the HP BladeSystem Onboard Administrator reset button for 5 seconds.
Press L to boot the system into Lost Password mode. The password resets to default and appears on the screen as it reboots. Password are now the same as on the factory label.
Thank you . Very useful video. Ps: It plays best at 1.5x [Settings >> Playback speed]
Where are the disk drives located
on the front, see the purple/black/white stickers? it says SAS 72GB @16:08
Some blades modules don't have any local drives. They use network storage.
Depends the c7000 is still used today. You can get more modern bladesthat are built for storage some built for core count and even Gpu blades for gpu passthrough for virtual machines. I bought a c3000 and use it for virtual machines in my house
There are pretty much only boot up drives in such blades (if there are any), all storage will be located on SAN connected storage.
We use HP 3Pars for storage in combination with about 80 of these C7000 blade enclosures, all fully loaded up with 16 blades each. They're an awesome piece of tech.
I am not sure if the OS will like you copying it like you have suggested. You won't have a unique GUID, unless you haven't joined the servers to a domain prior to copying them to a new server.
Thanks for great video .Kindly make video on virtual connect (network , san ) and server profile ..and also on HPE one view and brief on HPE Synergy
Verry inresting. Tnx for this. Amazing tehnology!
Yea, but can it run Crysis?
Nope.... because it’s more indented for web application a best example is a website
And it has no graphics cars.... it cannot even play Minecraft at 720p
what is the take of speed?
Superb videos, thank you very much, and very logical approach. I have subscribed.
Thank you :-)
As soon as I saw the name of the channel, I knew it was for me. All I do is play with junk. Brilliant! Subbed, belled, and clearly commented.
Vielen Dank, Grüßen aus Belgien
I decommission a similar server today. Unracking was an athletic feat. I personally don't like HP servers, just because of their rail kits
It's not so bad if you remove all modules including fans and power supplies. But you still need 2-3 people to move it out of the rack.
What a noise!
Do you have a hint where I can find a P6 / Socket 8 mainboard apart from overpriced eBay?
No imagine a data centre full of these things...
May i know serial cable type of this video?
Wait for my next video where I will explain how to make one :-)
Thanks you!
I have lots of 2U Proliant servers dual CPU 8cores , 10 cores 128gb , OS vsphere ESXI hosts, 8GB Fibre and 10Gb network with dual ports cards each, that is mess wiring of Fiber cables, 15servers in 1 rack, I have 3 racks of those servers , but now those are junk no support soon, I am looking for replacement. Do you recommended C7000 total 4 enclosures with blades HPE ProLiant BL460c Gen10 6248 2P 20 core 256GB each blade servers? what kind of FC - Fibre cards or slots did we get to connect storage, also how many 10 GB cards or slots I can use. My vendor told use 8 ports (4+4) redudancy , 10GB 8 ports (4+4) 2 slots on blade. can you explain more.
Sehr schön , hatte bei mir auf der arbeit auch tausende von und täglich mindestens 10 backups ziehen :D
I don't know if 32 cores x 256GB RAM is junk yet lol
Zinthros you laptop probably got 4 or 8 gigs of ram if that puts things in perspective for you
Zinthros but at the amount of power draw, it is..
Those Opterons have a fairly low performance X power consumption. It is still fine for a general purpose server role, though.
A heater that does work
thanks for sharing
My wall socket just suply 4400W :(
That is enough for the chassis and 3-4 servers. I have never seen a C7000 that needs the full rated 10000W. Maybe even more servers would work.
Sounds like a jet engine. :D
Awesome video. Thanks mate!
What does it do?
warms your house :)
Year?
Length?
Sounds like a B747 at idle.
Amazing, it runs ms-dos
Can it run Crysis?
Flash forward to 2020, Your servers have BOINC, so you can donate compute power to Rosetta@home to help researchers find treatment for COVID-19, and join Folding@home at the same time (same research goal), as well.
Hmmm.... you know what? That was exactly what I did since easter 2020. I'm using BOINC since a long time to test my servers. On easter I switched them all to Rosetta and used some additional 8-CPU servers as well. I think I did some good work within one week ;-)
Got quite tempted to buy one of these for €1000 on eBay to use for BOINC however don't think the neighbours or my electric bill would appreciate a hidden fighter jet in the garage/attic 😂.
Just awasome
But can it run Crysis??
boinc on an blade server?
yes, why not? It's a good CPU stress test.
Play with Junk There are many ways that are more easy than to setup boinc. What I didn't consider is that you have just to setup one machine and it's ofcourse a boost for your score on the different projects.
I have a BAM account. So setting up Boinc is done quickly.
thank you very much now please do the bladecenter h please
I'm sorry but it turned out that the Blade Center H's are completely empty. I don't even have the fans. But it works similar as the HP.
Great video!
Great video. I learnt too much stuff. Please upload more videos such as troublrshooting of c7000 and configuring SAN.
If it's junk, let me know before disposing it... would make a great render farm!
The obscenities one can find on RUclips....
I found one cheap, and i was thinking to get at my home office... well i guess i cant!!
Tear down one of these power supplies!
This time audio is better, yay :)
This would cost me $15K AUD a year in power bills !!
To be honest, it sounds like youre saying "Im playing with chonk again" XD
Man that thing is loud.
Ooo I want one of these!! But i couldn’t power it!
I have one of these, loaded up with 16 Intel based G7 blades. We've got about 80 of these blade enclosures, all fully loaded up, at my work and when they need replacing, employees get a chance of buying one or more. I took the chance when I had it last year.
It's an awesome piece of tech, but SO unnecessary at anywhere else than a corporate data center.
@@benedykt123313 do they work from 3 phase power?
Family friend and father of one of the scouts in my troop has one of these and proliant server sitting in his garage doing nothing. He bought it to work on for homelab.
I have mad idea to make VM environment as classroom computer room for scout troop (he also has some zero clients)
@@liammhodonohue Yeah as I recall correctly there are two versions; one with 2x CEE16-5p and one with 6x C19 (2 for each phase). And while you technically could power that version with two phases, you will imbalance the power supply grid and there's no redundancy. Hell you could power the beast with a single phase as long as your main breaker is heavy enough.
Wish I had a source for these kinda goodies!! Sob...Sob...Boo...Hoo!
Check for government auctions. Here in Alberta, the provincial government has a C7000 and C3000 on the auction site starting at $50.00. I think that I would still hear the fans even with my closet closed in my bedroom. It may keep the upstairs neighbours awake at night.
Noise sounds just like a jet aircraft.
It has 10 small turbines... so yes, the sound is similar :-)
4:26 If you don't like your job do that on a big server at database center.
Pressing the Reset button on the OA module does nothing but rebooting the OA. Servers will continue to work without interruption.
But I know about an incident where someone pushed the "emergency power off" button in a datacenter... that was dramatic! The button was next to the exit door and a worker was not careful with the ladder he carried around. Others say it was pushed intentionally to see what happens.
Bank datacenters calculate in million$ per second. Guess what happens if that goes down for a minute...
@@PlaywithJunk Well to reboot a mainframe would definitely stir up the hive a little. :) "emergency power off" Jesus..
@@PlaywithJunk When that has happened you of course hate the ridiculously long boot times of servers. A home PC would be back in a minute, but these servers easily take a minute to realize that they have powered on and tell that to the world, then the 5 minutes to get through the BIOS screens only starts... :-(
@@Rob2 Dam..