What's really impressive is that we just saw a Mujahedeen artillery shell shooting down a Soviet F-4 Phantom II over an American desert. That just doesn't happen every day ya know.
The A-6 was a surprise, after that I would've been surprised to see anything Soviet. The Mil Mi-24 CGI wasn't very good but they should've stuck to it anyway.
I think the best thing said during the war was when a Congress person asked if the Afghans could learn to shoot the weapons, The military man asked "does it have a trigger?" The Congress person said yes. The military man answered "Then they know how to use the weapon."
2:22 "They hit a soviet motorized rifle battalion on horseback? These guys are pretty good" How those words echo today. We literally ate that fist sandwich
The Mujahideen aren’t equal to Taliban. The Mujahideen is not one whole organized force, but rather a whole number of independent tribes and clans working separately from each other with only one common goal: the expulsion of the Soviets from Afghanistan. And each one had their own foreign supporter, each one seeking to influence Afghanistan after the war by propping up their chosen resistance group. While most of the Mujahideen groups were getting support from America and Pakistan, the Taliban were getting their support from Al Qaeda, which was under Bin Laden. After the war, when all the Mujahideen groups came together to a conference to discuss how to run their liberated country, the Taliban murdered most of the gathered leaders without warning and violently seized power, seeking to hog total control for themselves.
also kinda bothersome how they use fixed wing aircraft...but then go for "helicopters" instead of rotary wing aircraft which would of made it somewhat more military-esque...but yeah the a6 intruder is a bit of an odder aircraft but almost everyone remotely into the subject matter knows what an F4 phantom is
@@JOHNSmith-pn6fj My comment was an attempt at sarcasm and referenced your point exactly. I will take care to mark sarcasm for literal meaning only readers in the future.
@@Cowcow211 Last I checked Obama signed off to make a deal with the Taliban well before Trump was even in office. The Taliban the same guys America said it would remove from power and get rid of. Now the Taliban have 69 billion dollars worth of weapons for free and are stronger than ever.
@@forrestry Ah, I'm not... okay, let me clarify. If you mean the Afghani people, then, sure. We went in with the wrong expectations. But "these guys are pretty good" implies we were fighting the Mujahadeen. Which just isn't accurate as most of the Mujahadeen members we gave weapons to were long dead by the time we invaded (in fact, we had to ally ourselves with the "Northern Alliance" when we first went in as the Taliban were but one part of a larger conflict). So, the guys we were fighting weren't "pretty good" in the way of the guys funded here.
A lot of stockpiles around the world. One side loses, the other one takes over, stockpiles and all. Some of that stockpile ends up being sent somewhere where it will be tested, evaluated, reused.
@@jx14aby suggest you look up Stalingrad and Kursk; the grit-covered REAL reason why France doesn’t speak German. Points for trying though. My turn: “If grit and determination ALONE won wars, you’d be hailing Emperor Hirohito in Japanese right now.”
Fun fact: the warmongers who sent the weapons to the afghans in the 1980s and were impresed by their performance "these guys are pretty good" are mostly the same warmongers that decided to go to war against those same afghans in 2001.
I disagree with the assertion the US are warmongers. Of all the conflicts I'm aware of there is only one where the US went to war for corrupt or nefarious reasons and that was 2004 Iraq. Afghanistan was a case study in elitism biting its own ass. The thought never even occurred to most of these people that there was fundamental value differences between the Afghanis and American people. Much less that extreme elements in the faction they're supporting could size power and one day be capable enough to attack the US directly.
Wilson has an interview pre 9/11 where he basically says "cool, we armed them, but if we don't go in there to help them build a better society we are just creating warlords"
They are not the same guys. The fighters depicted here (Ahmad Shah Massoud) were actually US allies in Afghanistan in 2001 too and they were fighting the Taliban, who were the enemies. I recommend not getting foreign policy&history info from Hollywood movies and Trump rallies, because you'll surely get false information.
They left a vast arsenal of equipment except the Afghan Communist government kept fighting until 1992. They were particularly heavy users of SCUD missiles, this was the heaviest use of ballistic missiles ever and represented a huge setback for the anti-communist forces as there was no defense from a ballistic missile, there wasn't even a warning. There's a popular impression that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and there was a totally united opposition to the Soviet invasion, it was far more that the Soviets gave military support to a fellow communist nation that was struggling with a mostly unarmed rebellion. Very slowly this brutal crackdown on dissidents became an organized armed resistance movement. So when the Soviet troops left, the war was not won but the US weapons supplies dried up as the basis for US support was to oppose the deployment of Soviet troops, not to oppose Soviet's military support of another Communist regime. There was an imbalance there: Soviets kept arming Afghan communists but the US wouldn't keep arming the Anti-communists. The US congress had a tendency of refusing to supply arms to anti-communist resistance movements, hence the Iran-Contra affair which was an attempt to bypass laws that explicitly forbade the US from arming any anti-communist guerillas.
@Thunderchild-gz4gc UK is around, but not an empire anymore, the US is an empire, if you think it isn't you are not paying attention to the world around you. And yes after being defeated in Afghanistan we are seeing the beginning of its long decline.
Imagine if Charlie Wilson didn't get involved the Russians would have won and no American serviceman would have ever gone there and been injured or killed later on.
01:57 WTF? Looks like the Soviets got their hands on an A-6 Intruder. I was assigned to an Navy A-6 squadron and spent a lot of time around these birds.
Don't you watch the clip? They were under Soviet boots the whole time, it was only after Chuck gave them a whole lot of manpads that they got the upper hand. The mounting losses of expensive war equipment was just untenable and combined with their imploding economy, Russia finally got out of dodge.
@@germanmaldonado3157 so were the soviets. They lost more troops in ten years than the US has in 20 years and two front wars. I think the whole world knows that communists are far more expendable and have garbage tactics when it comes to warfare
The Soviets did exactly what we did in Vietnam, and Korea,we politically refused to stop the flow of weapons into the war zone, even know we,,, and they knew dam well knew where they were coming from, One of the basic rules of war " the friend of my enemy is also my enemy.
Not excatly. Soviet roam the Afghanistan to the fullest. US only clung on the southern Vietnam and only send bombers and commandos to the north, not full frontal invasion like Pusan in Korea.
Defending from who? Have you ever noticed that USSR sent its troops after several requests to do that coming from afghan government? If soviets were invaders then why afghan army was on the same side with them?
@@lexluther3337 but that was the bad government (like Assad's) if i had a nickel for every time US supported a coup in a nominally stable 3rd world country i could buy a big mac
The Zen Master’s Fable: We’ll See from ending of CWW. How true it is. Once upon a time, in a small village, there lived a wise old Zen master. He was known for his calm demeanor and insightful teachings. One day, the master’s only son accidentally let their prized stallion escape. The villagers gathered to console him, saying, “What bad luck! Your only horse is gone!” The Zen master simply replied, “We’ll see.” A few days later, the stallion returned, leading a herd of wild horses back to the village. The villagers rejoiced, saying, “What great luck! Now you have many horses!” Again, the Zen master calmly said, “We’ll see.” The next week, while trying to tame one of the wild horses, the master’s son fell and broke his leg. The villagers lamented, “How unfortunate! Your son is injured.” And once more, the Zen master responded, “We’ll see.” Soon after, the king’s army arrived in the village, conscripting all able-bodied young men for war. The master’s son was spared due to his broken leg. The villagers exclaimed, “What incredible luck! Your son doesn’t have to go to war!” And the Zen master, with his unwavering wisdom, repeated, “We’ll see.” The fable reminds us that life’s events are interconnected, and labeling them as purely good or bad is often shortsighted
As other commenters noticed, the word “Backfire” comes to mind. Especially considering the Americans had the opportunity to let the old afghan king resume power, but nooo…
True, but that still was instrumental to bring about the end of the soviet union and creating a huge wealthy european market to get rich off. Pretty good deal even with the losses of a few murrican fools who fell for the lies about a-stan and went there to fight. the US really should stick to delivering weapons to people actually willing and able to win a war (like they do now with the support of Ukraine). Whenever the US tries to do it themself they lose against goat herders and rice/poppy farmers while creating more enemies then they manage to kill. Its funny how murricans are smart enough to produce a decent weapon, but are too dumb to use them ... just ridiculous the US war record and the gun casualties on US ground.
Aircrafts of all type losses of Ussr are 10 times less than what USA lost in Vietnam. You can say - but they had full fledged AA systems and Aircrafts... And the Afghanistanies had their mountains that are super problematic for aircrafts as you should know very well considering Nato in Afghanistan lost as many airframes as Ussr lost in Afghanistan.
What was the point of your comment? Russia lost more tanks and armoured vehicles in Ukraine in less than 12 months than NATO did in the entirety of the war in Afghanistan.
@@generalpatton8468 Who aids Afghanistan? Some shady sheikhs... Who aids Ukraine- 52 of the richest countries on the planet and all their Awacs, Satellites and spy networks. The point here is that war is hard work, especially when you are in the odds Russia is.
@@generalpatton8468 Ukraine is irrelevant to the point the OP was trying to make. Besides, you just can't compare Ukraine and Afghanistan. The two scenarios are entirely different. If you think the talibans are better than the Ukrainian Army, then you need a burn in the bum.
THIS movie needs to be a part of todays high school history class. THIS is what our Gov’t used to do, for what we felt were the right reasons. Of course, this should also be part of what happens after, when we don’t like that they possess these skills…
Hopefully the US has learned their lesson about arming a country against Russia but then not supporting them financially when it comes to sustainable infrastructure, free and fair elections, etc etc. Afghanistan turned into a shit hole as soon as the Russian's left because we stopped caring. I don't see that happening with Ukraine this time around but you never know, the Republicans could always take control of the house AND senate and cut off the support entirely.
@@TheDevynl90 you Americans better make sure that you help the ukrainins get back on their feet after the war cuz it s your government that kept pushing them and supplying them with weapons or they would have surrendered long before , the usa will need to assume its responsibilities ; no more libyia or iraq or syria
@@TheDevynl90 The Ukraine is going to be a bottomless cesspit to Hell. We are funding without accountability all the while we are dancing on the razor's edge of Nuclear war. And who is the leader of debacle: the illegitimate senile POTUS Brandon.
This movie made me laugh and pissed me off at the same time. The great actors Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Emily Hunt, Amy Adams made me laugh. It pissed me off watching how the thieves and liars in Washington use our tax revenue. No accountability, avoiding the rules behind the scenes, corruption. The US helps defeat one enemy snd create another one, Osama Bin Laden
Taliban, actually. They took over first in Afghanistan and were comprised of Mujaheddin fighters. bin Laden was a Mujaheddin fighter who was Saudi citizen (born & raised in Saudi Arabia, his family was involved heavily with the royal family), and pissed off at the U.S. for staying in Saudi Arabia after Gulf War I (which the Saudi government invited/wanted us to stay). That is why he started al Qaeda, first to fight against the Saudi government and then the U.S. The Taliban gave him a safe haven. All we had to do was spend a few extra million to build schools for the Afghan's and provide some help with rebuilding their infrastructure and we could have probably avoided all the crap later on. As the end of the move said "These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the endgame." The U.S. since Korea has been really good at fucking up the endgame.
@@calkelpdiver Mostly true. But the US and the West spent $BBB on government payrolls & infrastructure building. The A-ghans simply blew it when they had a one in a lifetime chance to pull their country up from shitting in a ditch to an educated & industrialized (the place is full of minerals) society. Fail.
How many fuck ups USA needs to understand nobody wants them? And when they do, they end up regreating it. Being an USA enemy is better than be a friend, with friends like that who needs enemies?
Thanks to Charlie Wilson he supports the people of Afghanistan to bring the anti aircraft weapons from the US Property and the Supply of FIM-92 Stinger Anti Aircraft Missile to take down the Soviet Helicopters
We help them to kick out the Soviets eventually. And that training and experience helped them to outlast us after we wandered in there chasing Bin Laden. Be careful what you wish for...
And just think, 20 years later the US fell into the same trap, at the expense of the taxpayers. While American families and veterans struggle to survive while our politicians send all of the money to other countries.
The irony is that they didn't know what they were doing... Here take US guns, push USSR out so that US can terrorize you instead 😂 The truth is, US and USSR destroyed once beautiful county that has nothing to do with their stupid wars...
"I enjoy whisky and pretty women, and I pursue both with equal enthusiasm". "I asked the Speaker to put me on the House Ethics Committee. Everyone knows that I'm on the other side of that issue. I told the Speaker that, in that regard, I stand with a number of colleagues from both sides of the aisle. We feel that our opposition is underrepresented". Representative Charles Wilson my kinda guy
Whilst the movie was just CIA propaganda. I lost any shred of respect for him after he was campaigning the have the kiddy raper Roman Polanski released
@@markwoldin162 Polanski is a child rapist. While his victim states that the monetary compensation is sufficient and that she doesn't need him to go to jail, he is still morally repugnant.
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What's really impressive is that we just saw a Mujahedeen artillery shell shooting down a Soviet F-4 Phantom II over an American desert. That just doesn't happen every day ya know.
That just never happens ya know
And a UH-1 at 2:41 if I'm not mistaken. Wasn't aware the russians employed those...
The A-6 was a surprise, after that I would've been surprised to see anything Soviet. The Mil Mi-24 CGI wasn't very good but they should've stuck to it anyway.
quit pickin' the fly specks out of the pepper...
What's really impressive is Amy Adams' ass swaying in tune with her pony tail while she walked down the hall.
I think the best thing said during the war was when a Congress person asked if the Afghans could learn to shoot the weapons, The military man asked "does it have a trigger?" The Congress person said yes. The military man answered "Then they know how to use the weapon."
2:22 "They hit a soviet motorized rifle battalion on horseback? These guys are pretty good" How those words echo today. We literally ate that fist sandwich
haha yea we did
Afghan muj =/= Arab jihadists
The Mujahideen aren’t equal to Taliban.
The Mujahideen is not one whole organized force, but rather a whole number of independent tribes and clans working separately from each other with only one common goal: the expulsion of the Soviets from Afghanistan. And each one had their own foreign supporter, each one seeking to influence Afghanistan after the war by propping up their chosen resistance group.
While most of the Mujahideen groups were getting support from America and Pakistan, the Taliban were getting their support from Al Qaeda, which was under Bin Laden. After the war, when all the Mujahideen groups came together to a conference to discuss how to run their liberated country, the Taliban murdered most of the gathered leaders without warning and violently seized power, seeking to hog total control for themselves.
@@huydang5955 Mujahedeen and Taliban, Al Quaeda, UCK, Islamic State, are all the same s.hit.
@@huydang5955if you don't know th correct make up of the mujahideen forces in Afghanistan than don't lecture others on it.
Please
1:57 ah yes the notorious Soviet A-6 Intruder and F-4 phantom (also a Huey later)
lol, I saw that too, I think they were shooting the wrong side down
Noticed that too.
also kinda bothersome how they use fixed wing aircraft...but then go for "helicopters" instead of rotary wing aircraft which would of made it somewhat more military-esque...but yeah the a6 intruder is a bit of an odder aircraft but almost everyone remotely into the subject matter knows what an F4 phantom is
😂😂😂
Bad use of stock footage
Well, educating and equipping a small group of guerillas into an effective fighting force has never backfired later.
Oh really ?. Do you know about 9/11? and the 20 years we spent in Afghanistan?
@@JOHNSmith-pn6fj My comment was an attempt at sarcasm and referenced your point exactly. I will take care to mark sarcasm for literal meaning only readers in the future.
Sorry about that. My bad.
Don’t forget the /s. No matter how obvious the sarcasm is to you, we can’t hear the tone of voice you’re typing in.
@@4plus20isHappy Duly noted and a habit I have taken up since this little misunderstanding.
1:15 Best hall walk ever.
And she is redhair. More for sex apetite
I have to agree 😉
Amen!
You could set your watch to it
loved the extra few seconds gloat at her bum, very subtle by any standard
I could watch an hour of Amy Adams walking down that hall
I've never seen this before, but knew straight away that could only be Amy Adams. Even before we got to see her face.
Only an hour?.
Aid to masturbation for you!?😅
@@kevinduffy80 Be dehydrated?
@gailtaylor1636 not quite sure what you mean but, I am a great admirer of the female form.
The first 84 seconds of this is like an ad for Stark Industries.
I'm sure the afghans will be forever grateful for this & sing the American national anthem in the streets.
Afghans are disposable as well as Europeans etc. 😉
is this why they kicked the Americans out and the Americans had to flee in the middle of the night?
@@Ovrlord_1 You mean when Trump ordered an immediate and chaotic evac without consulting the allies in Afghanistan.
@@Cowcow211 Last I checked Obama signed off to make a deal with the Taliban well before Trump was even in office. The Taliban the same guys America said it would remove from power and get rid of. Now the Taliban have 69 billion dollars worth of weapons for free and are stronger than ever.
@@Cowcow211 вот прямо так и приказал: хаотично!
These guys are pretty good..... Took the US twice as many years to find that out.
Mujahideen =/= the Taliban but ok
Well, we kept them hiding in caves until we left, and took way fewer losses in 20 years compared to the Soviets, so...
@DFMRCV Yes you're 100% correct. The end result was the same. That's all I'm saying. Wasn't trying to tick you off.
@@forrestry Ah, I'm not... okay, let me clarify.
If you mean the Afghani people, then, sure. We went in with the wrong expectations. But "these guys are pretty good" implies we were fighting the Mujahadeen.
Which just isn't accurate as most of the Mujahadeen members we gave weapons to were long dead by the time we invaded (in fact, we had to ally ourselves with the "Northern Alliance" when we first went in as the Taliban were but one part of a larger conflict).
So, the guys we were fighting weren't "pretty good" in the way of the guys funded here.
@@dfmrcv862 I always figured they were the same people with different enemies.
Your enemy’s enemy can be even worse.
Yeah. America is something else.
@@mgtowveteran3234 Smoke a bone.....
Bull.
The Soviets are worse than suicidal Afghanistani lunatics.
Lots of F4s and Hueys get used by Soviets😂
Is Ace Combat world, Russian fly F22 😂
Remember that documentary Iron Eagle 2? Soviets flew F-4s in that, too. And had M113 with turrets! Superior to Soviet BMP-1….
A lot of stockpiles around the world. One side loses, the other one takes over, stockpiles and all. Some of that stockpile ends up being sent somewhere where it will be tested, evaluated, reused.
@@padurarulcriticsicinic4846 just to be clear. At no time during the Afghan war, did the Soviets Ever use F4s or Hueys.
the same as every modern war movie. Top gun shot down british hawks. The list goes on and on. It's the norm fella
This war reminded the world that on a level playing field the side with the most determination will win
Don't think so. If grit and determination won wars, then you could still buy a slave in New Orleans.
@@jx14abylevel playing field. Literally, the reason the south lost was because they weren’t on a level playing field.
@@szahmad2416 If grit and determination won wars, they'd be speaking German in France.
@@jx14aby suggest you look up Stalingrad and Kursk; the grit-covered REAL reason why France doesn’t speak German. Points for trying though. My turn: “If grit and determination ALONE won wars, you’d be hailing Emperor Hirohito in Japanese right now.”
I always get a chuckle out of the way Amy Adams pony tail swings back and forth in such an exaggerated fashion.
😂
Wonder if they put a weight in it or maybe it's just added movie magic. She's gorgeous tho.
1:58, y’all gonna tell me that’s not an A-6 Intruder or no?
Supposed to be Su 25
Plus them downing a F-4 Phantom @1:50 and a Huey
CIA should have noticed back then, this gays were displaying some kind of anti american behavior patterns
1:17 first class walk right there.
They shot down an A6 Intruder and an F4 Phantom, GOOD ONE!! 🤣😆👍
Fun fact: the warmongers who sent the weapons to the afghans in the 1980s and were impresed by their performance "these guys are pretty good" are mostly the same warmongers that decided to go to war against those same afghans in 2001.
lol not the Soviet warmongers though? The ones who invaded Afghanistan? No they were pacifist 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I disagree with the assertion the US are warmongers. Of all the conflicts I'm aware of there is only one where the US went to war for corrupt or nefarious reasons and that was 2004 Iraq.
Afghanistan was a case study in elitism biting its own ass.
The thought never even occurred to most of these people that there was fundamental value differences between the Afghanis and American people. Much less that extreme elements in the faction they're supporting could size power and one day be capable enough to attack the US directly.
Wilson has an interview pre 9/11 where he basically says "cool, we armed them, but if we don't go in there to help them build a better society we are just creating warlords"
@@rangodenalo6185and why should we of stopped the soviets, congrats you got a wasteland filling with backward tribes that can only grow drugs.
They are not the same guys. The fighters depicted here (Ahmad Shah Massoud) were actually US allies in Afghanistan in 2001 too and they were fighting the Taliban, who were the enemies.
I recommend not getting foreign policy&history info from Hollywood movies and Trump rallies, because you'll surely get false information.
"A heatseeker Dylon. That's pretty sophisticated for a bunch of half-assed mountain boys!"
I think the Kyber pass ? Was also a defeat for Hannibal and Alexander the Great.
@@shawnyoung8752 and the British. Not only were the Brits completely out of range, those mountainside guns were 50 caliber!!!
Major Dutch talking to Pencil pushing Dillion.
00:44 LMAO They even censored the Russian swear word 😂😂😂😂
2:42 не припомню таких вертолётов в СССР
Это американский UH-1
@@marshal9268
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Take it easy, the movie is american made,, what you expect? 🤭
@@alitputrawan651 I would expect something simular to mi-8. Make scale model 1:5, blow it, film it.... easy
"Is this the war we want to be fighting? ChaRliE WiLSOn's wAR???"
it is Special War Operation like Putin say. Ha-ha-ha
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And then.... it was the other way around a decade ago lol
It seems the Soviets were also flying F4 Phantoms, A6 Intruders and Hueys amazing lol.
So many people in these comments have not seen any of the 80's flying movies, "Top Gun" to start with, lol
At 1:57 in vid... why are the Mujahadeen shooting down a USN A-6 attack bomber? And then at 2:04, and Phantom?
This is by far my all time favorite movie scene with Amy Adams....super doll.
Well…hello Amy 😁
I wonder if the Soviets left them any Helicopters when they pulled out of Afghanistan
They left a vast arsenal of equipment except the Afghan Communist government kept fighting until 1992. They were particularly heavy users of SCUD missiles, this was the heaviest use of ballistic missiles ever and represented a huge setback for the anti-communist forces as there was no defense from a ballistic missile, there wasn't even a warning.
There's a popular impression that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and there was a totally united opposition to the Soviet invasion, it was far more that the Soviets gave military support to a fellow communist nation that was struggling with a mostly unarmed rebellion. Very slowly this brutal crackdown on dissidents became an organized armed resistance movement.
So when the Soviet troops left, the war was not won but the US weapons supplies dried up as the basis for US support was to oppose the deployment of Soviet troops, not to oppose Soviet's military support of another Communist regime. There was an imbalance there: Soviets kept arming Afghan communists but the US wouldn't keep arming the Anti-communists. The US congress had a tendency of refusing to supply arms to anti-communist resistance movements, hence the Iran-Contra affair which was an attempt to bypass laws that explicitly forbade the US from arming any anti-communist guerillas.
Hey guys! About those stinger missiles…..
1:58 did they shot down a Grumman A-6 Intruder??
2:02 they shot down F-4 Phantom
@@Sahilprakash1999 yes, bad editing I guess
They probably couldn't find a mig
2:40 they also shot down a Uh 1 Huey
I never knew Americans secretly were allies with the Soviet Union and were involved in the war 🤣
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Afghanistan is not called ,,grave of empires” for no reason
,,grave of empires” for USSSR
England is still around and the USA was never an empire and still exists. Alexander died of other causes.
@Thunderchild-gz4gc UK is around, but not an empire anymore, the US is an empire, if you think it isn't you are not paying attention to the world around you. And yes after being defeated in Afghanistan we are seeing the beginning of its long decline.
Did the glass progress from "quarter-full" to "half-full"?
Watching Amy Adams' ass walk down the corridor is such sweet movie making. Thank you Mike Nichols.
Now the People of Afghanistan is very happy to see the Americans to the supply of heavy weapons they can defend his country against the Soviet Union
about damn time they said.
Imagine if Charlie Wilson didn't get involved the Russians would have won and no American serviceman would have ever gone there and been injured or killed later on.
the scariest part is the heat seeking Stingers dont trigger the Homing alarm on aircraft
The Soviet pilots switched off the alarm so they could have their expendable baddy henchman chit-chat in peace.
@@Elcorethey never has opposition before, so ofc they would chit chat
01:57 WTF? Looks like the Soviets got their hands on an A-6 Intruder. I was assigned to an Navy A-6 squadron and spent a lot of time around these birds.
The Zen master says, “We’ll see.”
Unbelievable how Afganistan has defended their country vs Russia and USA. You would think the world would get the hint by now.
Don't you watch the clip? They were under Soviet boots the whole time, it was only after Chuck gave them a whole lot of manpads that they got the upper hand. The mounting losses of expensive war equipment was just untenable and combined with their imploding economy, Russia finally got out of dodge.
Well in this geopolitic chess match, in exchange for a check mate to the soviets in Afganistan, you sacrificed your two towers.... literally
Yeah but the soviets had ALOT more casualties and lost their government in the end
@@Nclake5485 so, twin's were expendable ... That's the american dream for you.
@@germanmaldonado3157 so were the soviets. They lost more troops in ten years than the US has in 20 years and two front wars. I think the whole world knows that communists are far more expendable and have garbage tactics when it comes to warfare
@@Nclake5485Soviets lost government for far more serious reason than Afghanistan.
Meddling in the middle east didn't help
How many Americans died of these weapons we gave the Taliban in the Eighties to use against the Soviets?
Stingers - None.
How to find out this movie in full ?
I want the sequel… with Ukraine …and a happy end!
There will be one for sure
yes Zelensky's execution in Kiеv, the arrest of all neo-Nazis and of course the trial of all war criminals from Ukraine
in ur dream
@@dwaipayanroy3232 which is coming true, thanks bro
с последним лохлом, доедающим кишки последнего пиндоса?
The Soviets did exactly what we did in Vietnam, and Korea,we politically refused to stop the flow of weapons into the war zone, even know we,,, and they knew dam well knew where they were coming from, One of the basic rules of war " the friend of my enemy is also my enemy.
Nixon attacked Cambodia, but Vietnam was different the Americans had no intention nor every attempted to invade the North, it was a joke
Not excatly. Soviet roam the Afghanistan to the fullest. US only clung on the southern Vietnam and only send bombers and commandos to the north, not full frontal invasion like Pusan in Korea.
@@danyleon4870 wasn't feasible since China initially threatened to get involved like in Korea.
@@khabbad the communists started that. Nixon was trying to level the field.
Worth watching the whole movie to see Amy Adams switch that ginger tail in heels. 👠
When you’re defending your own soil, there’s no bottom to your courage.
Yup, we are seeing it in ukraine too
And the rise of terrorism ?
If it invades your sovereignty, and your freedoms, you defend against all aggressions, including terrorism.
Defending from who? Have you ever noticed that USSR sent its troops after several requests to do that coming from afghan government? If soviets were invaders then why afghan army was on the same side with them?
@@lexluther3337 but that was the bad government (like Assad's)
if i had a nickel for every time US supported a coup in a nominally stable 3rd world country i could buy a big mac
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
The Zen Master’s Fable: We’ll See from ending of CWW. How true it is.
Once upon a time, in a small village, there lived a wise old Zen master. He was known for his calm demeanor and insightful teachings.
One day, the master’s only son accidentally let their prized stallion escape. The villagers gathered to console him, saying, “What bad luck! Your only horse is gone!”
The Zen master simply replied, “We’ll see.”
A few days later, the stallion returned, leading a herd of wild horses back to the village. The villagers rejoiced, saying, “What great luck! Now you have many horses!”
Again, the Zen master calmly said, “We’ll see.”
The next week, while trying to tame one of the wild horses, the master’s son fell and broke his leg. The villagers lamented, “How unfortunate! Your son is injured.”
And once more, the Zen master responded, “We’ll see.”
Soon after, the king’s army arrived in the village, conscripting all able-bodied young men for war. The master’s son was spared due to his broken leg.
The villagers exclaimed, “What incredible luck! Your son doesn’t have to go to war!”
And the Zen master, with his unwavering wisdom, repeated, “We’ll see.”
The fable reminds us that life’s events are interconnected, and labeling them as purely good or bad is often shortsighted
That ball... it keeps on bouncing...
As other commenters noticed, the word “Backfire” comes to mind. Especially considering the Americans had the opportunity to let the old afghan king resume power, but nooo…
It seems so many people don't know this is a movie. Using movie props.
And armed the enemy they fought subsequently...and were beaten by...
True, but that still was instrumental to bring about the end of the soviet union and creating a huge wealthy european market to get rich off. Pretty good deal even with the losses of a few murrican fools who fell for the lies about a-stan and went there to fight.
the US really should stick to delivering weapons to people actually willing and able to win a war (like they do now with the support of Ukraine). Whenever the US tries to do it themself they lose against goat herders and rice/poppy farmers while creating more enemies then they manage to kill. Its funny how murricans are smart enough to produce a decent weapon, but are too dumb to use them ... just ridiculous the US war record and the gun casualties on US ground.
I have always found it funny how at 0:48 the other two just appear and shoot down the remaining copters
It's It's an SNL sketch 😂😂😂😂 so dang funny 😂😂😂
Wait... not Roger as Santa again😂
Its funny when they say. These guys are pretty good. So much good that U.S couldn’t control them in 20 years…
Aircrafts of all type losses of Ussr are 10 times less than what USA lost in Vietnam. You can say - but they had full fledged AA systems and Aircrafts... And the Afghanistanies had their mountains that are super problematic for aircrafts as you should know very well considering Nato in Afghanistan lost as many airframes as Ussr lost in Afghanistan.
What was the point of your comment? Russia lost more tanks and armoured vehicles in Ukraine in less than 12 months than NATO did in the entirety of the war in Afghanistan.
@@generalpatton8468 Who aids Afghanistan? Some shady sheikhs... Who aids Ukraine- 52 of the richest countries on the planet and all their Awacs, Satellites and spy networks. The point here is that war is hard work, especially when you are in the odds Russia is.
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Lazy reading.
@@generalpatton8468 Ukraine is irrelevant to the point the OP was trying to make. Besides, you just can't compare Ukraine and Afghanistan. The two scenarios are entirely different. If you think the talibans are better than the Ukrainian Army, then you need a burn in the bum.
Good movie
Backed by music from Handel's Messiah?! Somehow not appropriate.
THIS movie needs to be a part of todays high school history class. THIS is what our Gov’t used to do, for what we felt were the right reasons. Of course, this should also be part of what happens after, when we don’t like that they possess these skills…
Hopefully the US has learned their lesson about arming a country against Russia but then not supporting them financially when it comes to sustainable infrastructure, free and fair elections, etc etc. Afghanistan turned into a shit hole as soon as the Russian's left because we stopped caring. I don't see that happening with Ukraine this time around but you never know, the Republicans could always take control of the house AND senate and cut off the support entirely.
>Implying they've stopped
@@TheDevynl90 you Americans better make sure that you help the ukrainins get back on their feet after the war cuz it s your government that kept pushing them and supplying them with weapons or they would have surrendered long before , the usa will need to assume its responsibilities ; no more libyia or iraq or syria
@@TheDevynl90 The Ukraine is going to be a bottomless cesspit to Hell. We are funding without accountability all the while we are dancing on the razor's edge of Nuclear war. And who is the leader of debacle: the illegitimate senile POTUS Brandon.
It should be taught in schools; the evil of American Agression and the murder of anti-capitalist governements for a few greedy capitalists.
MANPADS. Never leave home without one.
Why'd DC need Massoud out of the picture in '01?
Hey folks, at 1:58 thats an A-6 Intruder!
and then they shot down your helicopters from them. what an irony
This movie made me laugh and pissed me off at the same time. The great actors Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Phillip Seymour Hoffman, Emily Hunt, Amy Adams made me laugh. It pissed me off watching how the thieves and liars in Washington use our tax revenue. No accountability, avoiding the rules behind the scenes, corruption. The US helps defeat one enemy snd create another one, Osama Bin Laden
You do understand that you voted for these "thieves and liars", eh?
Taliban, actually. They took over first in Afghanistan and were comprised of Mujaheddin fighters. bin Laden was a Mujaheddin fighter who was Saudi citizen (born & raised in Saudi Arabia, his family was involved heavily with the royal family), and pissed off at the U.S. for staying in Saudi Arabia after Gulf War I (which the Saudi government invited/wanted us to stay). That is why he started al Qaeda, first to fight against the Saudi government and then the U.S. The Taliban gave him a safe haven.
All we had to do was spend a few extra million to build schools for the Afghan's and provide some help with rebuilding their infrastructure and we could have probably avoided all the crap later on. As the end of the move said "These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the endgame."
The U.S. since Korea has been really good at fucking up the endgame.
@@calkelpdiver Mostly true. But the US and the West spent $BBB on government payrolls & infrastructure building. The A-ghans simply blew it when they had a one in a lifetime chance to pull their country up from shitting in a ditch to an educated & industrialized (the place is full of minerals) society. Fail.
Not entirely. Panama did end well and so does Grenada. No bad actor coming out from those area.@@calkelpdiver
And the US involvement in the Russo-Afghan war went on to have _NO_ negative consequences whatsoever.
They need Charlie Wilson nowadays...
For Ukraine
@@novemberalpha6023 no they need Gus
@@MM-qi5mk they probably need one Joanne Herring more than anyone
We just have to find Bin Laden's counter part.
How many fuck ups USA needs to understand nobody wants them? And when they do, they end up regreating it. Being an USA enemy is better than be a friend, with friends like that who needs enemies?
So basically we helped them fight the Soviets, then they fought us, now they are fighting ISIS😂😂
Yeah, I think even they're just as dumbfounded.
1:45,2:30 in 1987 and 1988 Mujahideen Rebel Forces takes them down all Soviet Forces out of Afghanistan
And americans in 2021
@@ivanbisaev 1:45
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Смерть руZZким оккупантам!
Thanks to Charlie Wilson he supports the people of Afghanistan to bring the anti aircraft weapons from the US Property and the Supply of FIM-92 Stinger Anti Aircraft Missile to take down the Soviet Helicopters
Now look where Afghanistan is.
@@michaelmixon2479 Now Afghanistan is freedom country , without communist basterdas ! It is important !
We help them to kick out the Soviets eventually. And that training and experience helped them to outlast us after we wandered in there chasing Bin Laden. Be careful what you wish for...
@@АльбертКац-ч5ю Actually some of those communist did turn and join Northern Alliances.
to make the room for 9/11
Isnt rambo there ?
And just think, 20 years later the US fell into the same trap, at the expense of the taxpayers. While American families and veterans struggle to survive while our politicians send all of the money to other countries.
this is literal visual refuse how tf did the director look at this and live with having constructed this
Back in the days when everyone smoked indoors at Christmas parties....
And they had christmas parties.....
How good it must have felt to those people to finally strike back after being ruthlessly pursued for so long.
yes osama felt thrilled. Those are his bitches
The irony is that they didn't know what they were doing... Here take US guns, push USSR out so that US can terrorize you instead 😂
The truth is, US and USSR destroyed once beautiful county that has nothing to do with their stupid wars...
Who pursued them?
@@justaperson1619 the Russians
@@JoeFabeets the Soviets* fought the Taliban just like the US did. They did not strike civilians
3:00, this guy saw it coming........
2:03 That's AMERICAN Phantom F4
and 1:56 Grumman A-6 Intruder.
No flares back then?
SUPERMAN: you can't kiss my girlfriend, forest
I really wonder what would have happened if Putin was premier instead of Gorbachev
Look at the Ukraine now.
¿That girl is Amy Adams?
Yes
Politics make strange bed fellows. Ironically this came back to bite us in the ass one September day.
1:58. Didn't know the Soviets were flying A-6 Intruders in Afghanistan.
lolol! pretty crazy how this almost came back and bit the FUSA in the ass.
"I enjoy whisky and pretty women, and I pursue both with equal enthusiasm".
"I asked the Speaker to put me on the House Ethics Committee. Everyone knows that I'm on the other side of that issue. I told the Speaker that, in that regard, I stand with a number of colleagues from both sides of the aisle. We feel that our opposition is underrepresented".
Representative Charles Wilson
my kinda guy
Excellent movie
But then they forgot who gave em all the help and weapons....
That was really an F-4 Phantom
Really facts for film cool.😁💀👍
The old saying applies here " Don't bite the hand that feeds you ", they skipped the hand and bite us in the ass. :(
Using artillery to shoot down F-4 or A-4 lol.
N-i-c-e.
Most of Stingers were captured or bought by Soviets. There is huge lot of them in many museums.
And then there is the use of irreverence. The seige of Bastogne. Nuts!
Haven’t you heard? They’ve got us surrounded… the poor bastards!
Are you actually happy now? Those who provided these weapons to afghans?
All I ask is to have access to the same weapons my taxes paid for the Afghans to have.
Were you paying taxes in the 1980s? What would a civilian do with a Stinger missile?
@@kaianttila1619 Be a thorn in the side of an occupation force in Minecraft
You have to improvise effectively
The film is really a moral disgrace. I lost some respect for Mike Nichols, a genius.
Whilst the movie was just CIA propaganda. I lost any shred of respect for him after he was campaigning the have the kiddy raper Roman Polanski released
@@georgesmith1127 That's different. Do you know the facts of the Polanski case?
@@markwoldin162 Polanski is a child rapist. While his victim states that the monetary compensation is sufficient and that she doesn't need him to go to jail, he is still morally repugnant.
A film that aged like milk 😂 20 years in Afghanistan fighting the same cave men
The Soviets were on the right track. Why did we support the Taliban back then?
They weren't the Taliban back then.
Right track to what exactly? World domination much like the NAZI regime?