In fact Richey James even said himself, that it's pointless pretending certain things don't exist, people hide in a bubble. They are bound by fear. That is why most humans are spiritually and emotionally undeveloped.
Wasn't this the best bit of accidental PR ever on the part of the Manics? They make an album with no singles using dark and difficult lyrics left by Richey Edwards; that could have been a difficult thing to market. (I think Nicky Wire said it could destroy them commercially). Yet somehow they managed to make it the most talked about album of the week just by choosing some unusual artwork. Incredible!
The game of life is hard to play I'm gonna lose it anyway The losing card I'll someday lay So this is all I have to say That pseudocide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please. The only way to win is cheat And lay it down before I'm beat And to another give my seat For that's the only painless feat That pseudocide is painless It brings on many changes And I can take or leave it if I please....
"I loathe courgettes, but I am not offended that they sell them" Genius. For once a sensible discussion over an insane decision by the Corporate Pigs of the Supermarket world. Deny your culture of consumption.
"censorship will stop your excess thought" as they wrote in crucifix kiss... I think that's the supermarkets' game... I bought never mind the bollocks from asda and again (as a present for a friend) from tesco... neither were censored... i think they wanted to make it harder to find some of the best lyrical work richey did as it's too thought provoking
her work is meant to be disturbing, its extremely effective and hits the soul. but not offensive. there is a huge difference. as for the picture that is as the artist says a birthmark, but the disturbing nature is just the way she applies paint, inspiration from animal carcasses and the rest portraying people as meat, or the violence of the soul, somehow, however she manages that without explicitly painting it. the violence here is only towards paint though, its not even the right colour, for an amazing technical painter, i'm sure she could have painted wounds if she wanted, instead they are splashes of colour, and ambiguous.
I love the fact that Loius has been reduced to "that bloke from Brookside".....I bought the album from Asda due to it being the nearest place I can get it, and have thrown away the outer sleeve so the artwork can be seen as it was meant to be.
According to Jenny Savile herself, it's a port wine birthmark. I think she'd know, don't you? Presumably, part of her intention was to make viewers double-take, but that's not the point. Censorship is just a way for stupid people to avoid debate, and it always causes problems.
p.s. If it's because 'someone' working for several major supermarket chains found it offended their personal taste, I'd like to know who this individual is. Why have they been granted such a surprising amount of influence? And why are they more offended by a Jenny Savile painting than by, for example, the way supermarkets have destroyed the livelihoods of small-time farmers in favour of cheap imports? Of course it's about money.
It's art it's meant to be put out and people to give their opinion on. I don't think there's anything bad about it. If you get offended don't look at it simple
What about the cover for Countdown to extinction and youthanasia by megadeth? They are only covers man they work by making people think so by the amount of thinking this cover has got shows how much of a winner it actualy is. Well done the Manics
Well, admittedly, when I first saw the cover, it made me scream a bit (I didn't expect to see it, ok?) but the idea that it needs to be censored is faintly ridiculous. I mean, the people who are going to be offended by this are not likely to be in the popular music section of a supermarket, let alone looking at the cover of a Manics album...
If I'm not mistaken, copies of that were covered up in certain chains. It says everything about the corporations and institutions that are censoring - they're afraid they'll be found out for what they are by stocking products with images that could implicate them ;)
It's not even worth discussing, seriously. It just seems so dated. The supermarkets want to put a sleeve over a picture of a child with what looks like a bloodied face, which is almost glorified, or at the very least made to look fairly stylistically beautiful, through the medium of paint, so what? Is it really worthy of debate? I have no problem with it personally, but I also have no problem with it being censcored. Who cares? The album kicks arse with Richeys 'voice' back in centre stage.
that is one hilarious insult!!! Odd....the US is way worse about censorship stuff. You don't see topless chicks in the supermarket stands here...not like europe. what's a supermarket doing selling albums anyway???
It's pathetic that it's even being discussed in such a dreary and immature fashion, and on daytime tv too (throws up). I'm not sure if I buy all this, seems a bit 'publicity stunt' and my conspiracy theory alarm is ringing?
In fact Richey James even said himself, that it's pointless pretending certain things don't exist, people hide in a bubble. They are bound by fear. That is why most humans are spiritually and emotionally undeveloped.
Wasn't this the best bit of accidental PR ever on the part of the Manics? They make an album with no singles using dark and difficult lyrics left by Richey Edwards; that could have been a difficult thing to market. (I think Nicky Wire said it could destroy them commercially). Yet somehow they managed to make it the most talked about album of the week just by choosing some unusual artwork. Incredible!
The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
So this is all I have to say
That pseudocide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please.
The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
And to another give my seat
For that's the only painless feat
That pseudocide is painless
It brings on many changes
And I can take or leave it if I please....
Ah! Richey called in. I guess he is living in Oxfordshire now.... Good on him sticking up for his boys cover art! Haha
"I loathe courgettes, but I am not offended that they sell them" Genius.
For once a sensible discussion over an insane decision by the Corporate Pigs of the Supermarket world. Deny your culture of consumption.
"censorship will stop your excess thought" as they wrote in crucifix kiss... I think that's the supermarkets' game... I bought never mind the bollocks from asda and again (as a present for a friend) from tesco... neither were censored... i think they wanted to make it harder to find some of the best lyrical work richey did as it's too thought provoking
It's actually quite a beautiful piece of artwork
her work is meant to be disturbing, its extremely effective and hits the soul. but not offensive. there is a huge difference. as for the picture that is as the artist says a birthmark, but the disturbing nature is just the way she applies paint, inspiration from animal carcasses and the rest portraying people as meat, or the violence of the soul, somehow, however she manages that without explicitly painting it. the violence here is only towards paint though, its not even the right colour, for an amazing technical painter, i'm sure she could have painted wounds if she wanted, instead they are splashes of colour, and ambiguous.
I love the fact that Loius has been reduced to "that bloke from Brookside".....I bought the album from Asda due to it being the nearest place I can get it, and have thrown away the outer sleeve so the artwork can be seen as it was meant to be.
According to Jenny Savile herself, it's a port wine birthmark. I think she'd know, don't you? Presumably, part of her intention was to make viewers double-take, but that's not the point. Censorship is just a way for stupid people to avoid debate, and it always causes problems.
Missed this. Cheers for uploading!!. Good to actually see some common sense on TV.
I always thought it was a boy.
''that bloke who used to be on Brookside''.... genius
I have to say my local Tesco haven't covered the CD up, although I've bought it just now from HMV.
Anyone Notice the presenter passed James's comments about Lucien Freud's brushstrokes off as his own
This aged so bizarrely hahaha
p.s.
If it's because 'someone' working for several major supermarket chains found it offended their personal taste, I'd like to know who this individual is. Why have they been granted such a surprising amount of influence? And why are they more offended by a Jenny Savile painting than by, for example, the way supermarkets have destroyed the livelihoods of small-time farmers in favour of cheap imports?
Of course it's about money.
It's art it's meant to be put out and people to give their opinion on. I don't think there's anything bad about it. If you get offended don't look at it simple
I was glad that the supermarkets censored the album cover. Iit gave Manics fans another cracking collectors item.
I don't remember this topic anywhere. Not even in the news. 🤔
It was only a brief thing. Tesco did a special sleeve for the CD and everyone carried on about their business
What about the cover for Countdown to extinction and youthanasia by megadeth?
They are only covers man they work by making people think so by the amount of thinking this cover has got shows how much of a winner it actualy is.
Well done the Manics
did he just call it never mind the bullocks lol who sandra?
Well, admittedly, when I first saw the cover, it made me scream a bit (I didn't expect to see it, ok?) but the idea that it needs to be censored is faintly ridiculous. I mean, the people who are going to be offended by this are not likely to be in the popular music section of a supermarket, let alone looking at the cover of a Manics album...
a bit weird one of the callers being called richey
Richard. Would it have been weird if he was called Dick? Or Dicky?
Matthew Wright certainly missed in the morning
This is important! a turning point in our modern culture. A disgrace
This is hilarious. Is this a comedy programme?
I thought it was a boy.
@NikDonaghy23 lucky he grew up to be an actor!
Games with bloodsplats everywhere. I hate those games. BAN THEM!
lol the fact that supermarkets dont want to show the album cover just makes me love it more, ..pole dancing kits for kids?? wtf
You can see yourself in... BOTH sides!
It's just black.
'steriod mick' from brookie!! talking sense too. wonder what he's upto these days??
Theres nothing wrong with the album cover , what about that Nirvana one, thats child pronography isnt it?
If I'm not mistaken, copies of that were covered up in certain chains. It says everything about the corporations and institutions that are censoring - they're afraid they'll be found out for what they are by stocking products with images that could implicate them ;)
@Alexwedo yeah but if we tolerate this....
nevermind the bullocks lol
So supermarkets try to ban that yet the holy bible is not inappropriate? LOGIC!
fast forward to 2018 and being offended by nude female bodies is now offensive. hehe LIFE is awesome.
Now its 2022... censorship has reached even more ridiculous proportions
@@Jonny_Red i was referring to Page 3 being cancelled, what's been censored now?
@@mynameismark25 ah, I was being a bit more generalised in terms of freedom of speech especially on social media platforms the past couple of years.👍
That "bullocks" bit made me cringe.
TV censorship.
Kinda had to considering bollocks is deemed an offensive word. Personally, I'd have called it Here's The Sex Pistols
So-you-can-sell-pieces-of-animal-carcass,-and-the-wholesale-objectification-of-women-in-a-supermarket-but-not-an-album-cover!?
What an unfortunate name, Actor Louis Emerick.
check out some horror dvd coversor even worse some disney pre teens covers horrific!! : /
It's not even worth discussing, seriously. It just seems so dated. The supermarkets want to put a sleeve over a picture of a child with what looks like a bloodied face, which is almost glorified, or at the very least made to look fairly stylistically beautiful, through the medium of paint, so what? Is it really worthy of debate? I have no problem with it personally, but I also have no problem with it being censcored. Who cares? The album kicks arse with Richeys 'voice' back in centre stage.
Ha aha aha aha ha ha ha !
bullucks?it is bollocks !
That was TV censorship.
Grotesco
that is one hilarious insult!!! Odd....the US is way worse about censorship stuff. You don't see topless chicks in the supermarket stands here...not like europe. what's a supermarket doing selling albums anyway???
It's pathetic that it's even being discussed in such a dreary and immature fashion, and on daytime tv too (throws up). I'm not sure if I buy all this, seems a bit 'publicity stunt' and my conspiracy theory alarm is ringing?
Games with bloodsplats everywhere. I hate those games. BAN THEM!