How Seville Got Its Bicycle Network
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- You may have read the story or sat thru a presentation, but now you can see it here on Streetfilms!
Back in 2006, Seville's city leaders decided it was going to build a bicycle network. An expansive one, especially for a city that had very few daily riders (most claim less than a 0.5% bike mode share) and in just 18 months the city installed 80 kms of bike lanes!
They did it by commissioning a poll which found over 80% of the city's residents thought bike lanes were a good thing and not long after the accelerated plan was set in motion. Most of the lanes were two-way protected lanes placed at grade with the sidewalk and the reaction was very positive as the city is approaching a 10% mode share.
Some of the lanes are certainly on the narrow side thanks to the numbers of riders, though there is a movement to widen them and further expand the network (see one such newer section in the Streetfilm.) But the proof on how well they work in Seville is in these irrefutable visuals: very few people wearing helmets, 35% of riders are women and there is a large component of older people riding. And for a place that is often sunny & hot - the third day I was there it was nearly 100 degrees - people still just keep riding...many of the men in business suits.
Their plans are to double the number of cyclists by 2022.
At last a city that tries to get it right the first time. Many cities around the world just slap some paint on a road and call it a cycling lane. Turns out, cars have very little respect for paint. And everybody just ignores the place where cyclists need protection the most: at junctions. Glad to see Seville got that right at once.
I agree. Too many cities half ass the process and wonder why it doesn’t work out.
Paint can be done right, and the Dutch have achieved a lot with painted lanes - learning to build protected intersections, teaching drivers to cycle in the middle of the road on through streets that can't fit proper bike paths (turning every shoulder into an advisory lane) etc. But for a while now we've been abandoning paint as infrastructure, because yeah, it only goes so far
@@domesticcat1725 I know you wrote this a while ago, but do you have a specific example for this? My experience in the Netherlands has been that most cycling infrastructure there is more than just paint.
"And everybody just ignores the place where cyclists need protection the most: at junctions". Exactly: how ironical!
Well done Sevilla! !! I never thought that I would see something like this in Spain. This really proves that the infrastructure has to be built first, then people will change their habits and switch to bikes because it is simply more practical.
Of course. Its silly when people make decisions based on what currently is the habit. Imagine if there were no roads to drive on and they ask "How many people drive cars?" Oh.. 0? Then no need for streets I guess!
More cities should provide protected bicycle lanes to make it safer for children to ride..
No emissions. No noise. Fossil fuels free transportation.
Love the videos. Great inspiration showing what can be done if people speak up and support bicycle transportation
Build it and they will come. Glad more cities do that, apart from the Netherlands 😁
Paul C: We're pushing strongly in Montréal, Canada, to create a high capacity protected bike network, whereas our limited protected segments are getting quite clogged. (Our network is approx. 850 kms, though only a small fraction is actually protected.)
Franc-Sois Dandurand I know, yet at the same time you fail to realise the importance of a closed network. If you want to build a network either have a lot of ready money or you need a nucleus. Stretches which do not connect are worse than building a tiny network that can be expanded upon. A stretch which goes nowhere fast isn't infrastructure.
Yes!! Dutch cities are beautiful because of all the cycling infrastructure
You mean the typical white painted line that surely protects ciclyst from texting SUVs. :D
I still own that movie.
It is such a lovely, heart-warming thing to see so many people cycling. And that beautiful picture has some important ingredients, without which it would not be so beautiful at all:
1. most of the people are sitting up straight (not hunched over as though they are in a race, or belong to some other species)
2. they are wearing normal clothes, just like the pedestrians and the people in cars
3. related to 2, they are not wearing helmets, because they know, and they signal to others, that it is the infrastructure, the rules of the road, and human care for each other that makes us safe
4. everyone is included - young, old, male, female.
I agree, Antony. I'm a life time cyclist from the Netherlands. I love to see these developments and will support any initiative promoting cycling. We'll all be better off for it. There's is one thing though, that always boggles me. If I may be so bold:
How is it that so many enthousiastic cyclists seem to hold some sort of grudge against people cycling for sports or make fun of them, even if ever so mildly?
Assuming these cyclists respect traffic rules and other peoples' safety, that's just what it is: they use their bicycles for sports. Although I am pretty powerfull and tend to pick up my speed when I have longer distances to cover, I don't consider myself one of them. But I don't see anything wrong with them either.
Frankly, I never hear pedestrians mock joggers for running or ridicule their outfits.
Would that not be the same? To be honest, it feels... elitist. I just don't get it.
I know sports-cyclists sometimes behave less than courteous but just have a look around any city with a developed bike culture and I'm sure you'll agree the average, casually dressed cyclist at times can be a jerk just as easily...
No offence intended. Any thoughts?
Peace.
@@mourlyvold7655I have nothing against cyclists for sport but what I don't like is when people act like that's the only way to ride. I've had so many cyclists tell me I have to ride my bike a certain way but what they told me was irrelevant because I don't ride to race.
I'm impressed how quickly it appeared! This really is the gold standard of what cities can and should accomplish in 10 years. I thought Paris was good for a real quick change, but they don't hold a candle to this!
This is an incredible start and I'd love to see where it goes from here now that the bike is an integral part of this city's planning.
Bravo Seville! Looks like an amazing bike network I can only hope the US takes these brave initiatives one day soon
Excellent idea, solves a lot of problems. Way to go, Seville!!
Me encanta.
Me alegra muchisimo.
España puede ser un paradiso de gente que usa la bicicleta para pasar la dia hacer las cosa diarias.
I think Valencia has jumped ahead of Sevilla, as far as bicycle infrastructure is concerned. Our new mayor, Joan Ribó, rides a bike to work. The last four years he’s been in office, Valencia has seen a vast improvement in the quality and quantity of bike paths around the city. At this rate, Valencia will be like the Amsterdam of the Mediterranean (but with better weather and food).
Yes. I see the video and now I see that the infrastructure for bikes in Sevilla looks poor. Mostly space taken to pedestrians instead of taken to car circulation. In Valencia things are going the other way. Space is taken from cars.
Leftbanker make it a jolly good competition!
hello, is there a video about Valencia's bike network?
@@Garvm Like Valencia, I’m sure that the bike infrastructure in Sevilla is evolving and improving all the time.
@@Garvm They removed like 6000 parking places, not pedestrian sidewalk, what are you on about? you salty or what?
1 dislike: someone on their cell phone watching videos stuck in traffic
Probably a gym owner whose costly membership gone down.
Unpopular theory: Could be someone hit in a salmon lane before. You know the kind, they show it in the video here at 3:05. One oncoming bicycle lane wedged between a bicycle and a motor vehicle lane going the same direction. So any traffic coming from the side the bike track is on is going to look left, not pay attention to the single lane coming from the right and turn across.
@@BalooUriza I'm not sure I understand what you are communicating here. Can you please clarify so my brain can get it? :)
@@ShermanSitter OK, imagine if they kept the motor vehicle lane in the same direction and moved the bicycle track to the other side of the road. Now both lanes going in the same direction are adjacent to each other as expected, and the one lane going the opposite direction is left of centerline. The correct way to do it is that way, so your A and B directions are AAB. Now, if you put the bicycle track on the other side, now you have the lanes in ABA order, with the B direction between two A direction lanes, swimming upstream like a salmon. Cross traffic will generally assume it's a one-way and only look in the A direction, not expecting a random lane going the opposite direction just slapped haphazardly in the middle.
@@BalooUriza I see now, thank you for the clarification. I can tell you that city planners are doing their best. If you listen to the tenor of his voice at the moment he talks about "this is the best we could do" I guarantee he would agree with you, but probably there were too many other "interested parties" that messed up the dream / big vision. This happens so often. Great ideas and systems get watered down. The good news in this case is it is "sidewalk level" which provides at least some protection from the cars. I'm glad you are thinking though and we need to keep all possibilities and discussions open. Being extreme as I am, I would just eliminate cars from a percentage of all roads and just have a major, fully connected grid of non-car roads for use by all alternate forms of transportation. As you can tell from my channel, I'm a dreamer, but also, I believe that all things can change much faster than people realize...if only they would let go of the past and "traditions" and "how things are built". Thank you again for being a progressive mind in helping to move the world forward!
This is pretty incredible. Really good quality by my Dutch standards, considering the short time.
The last comment was "we are trying to improve a lot and we will see what will happen in the future" and that is the best promise. Keep it up Seville!
Nicely done, Seville! Great example for other cities. I see people dressed for the destination, hardly any helmets... If the weather weren't so nice, this Dutchie might even call it home. :D
Way to go Seville! That's a lot of improvement in such a short time, and good on you for building cycling paths in residential and business areas! Here in the US, most of our bike paths are by scenic areas, and the paths in the cities are often just painted on. Our city cycling paths also allow cars to use them, which kind of defeats the purpose. We could learn a lot from Seville, I think.
After watching this video I was inspired to visit Sevilla, because I'd never experienced cycling in a city with good infrastructure. We stayed 20kmms away and cycled in. It's magic, so impressed, what an awesome city. Fab trams and bus service too. The cycle paths aren't perfect compared to Dutch standards, as said in the video, there's more work to do, but wow it was a great to experience in real life what connected and segregated means. Oh, and it's an awesome city to visit and sight see on foot too. Thank you Sevilla!
I was wondering. Instead of parking cars at every single house, why not have small neighborhood car parks adjacent to the main roads? Why do we have to give so much space so that a car can drive to EVERY SINGLE HOUSE.
On my street you could easily fit 50% more houses while keeping the footpaths; and even widening them to allow micro electric delivery vans, bikes (that you can use to get to the car park, just lock at bike locker near car park) and rolling couches down to your house.
Low house density and garages that just has a car that does nothing most of the time both increase house prices significantly.
I heard some places in the Netherlands are just doing just that?
Great idea, the only problem would be house moving and shopping but that could be solved with e-bikes/vans as you mentioned. I guess most people still have the idea of car to house mobility ingrained.
Yes! Or maybe the use of retractable bollards which are common in the Netherlands. The bollards keep all car traffic out except for buses, emergency vehicles, residents, or anyone else possessing a special bollard retraction key. Pedestrians and cyclists can pass right by the bollard at all times with no problem. Despite being densely populated, Dutch cities are clean, quiet and beautiful because car transportation isn't prioritized.
you need to allow emergency vehicles in to fight fires and bring in ambulances.
@@kajtelenar8643 if there is an emergency, it can stop on the bike line
Great idea! The ultimate solution is getting rid of most cars. Car sharing can be a big help but there are just too big for city environments.
I would love to see this where I live
Like like like we need this in the UK, it's the way forward. Great network very good.
Yes I never think about it but the UK is very car centric
Fabulous! Well done! Watching from the Netherlands, I am impressed. I look forward to visiting Seville.
Makes me want to visit Seville and hire a bicycle. I wondered how delivery vans can park outside the shops where the road is now a cycle lane. It's very challenging to cater for everyone; delivery vans/trucks, pedestrians, motorbikes, wheelchairs, and cyclists. It is a challenge for us here in Limerick City, Ireland.
Without going too much into detail, the way it is mostly done in the Netherlands is this:
Have the parking bays directly adjacent to the road, with a narrow 'side walk' on the passenger side, the width of a car door. Then, raised to almost the level of the sidewalk, comes the bike path wich is protected by these parked cars. Slightly raised again then sits the sidewalk. Works pretty well in most circumstances...
I’m jealous . Great infrastructure , great weather.
Too cold to ride in germany right now, at least for me .
It has been 3 years we deserve an update!
Well 4, but thanks to Covid and many other travel destinations I have finally planned for the summer, someone else needs to do it!
Hello 2021 Seville...
Love from Amsterdam 🤗
Very inspiring video!
Great job guys and keep up the good work.
We also have some bikelanes here ;p
Greets from Holland.
Really nice to see that cities outside the Netherlands are doing so well with their bike infra. You often only hear/see either infra in the Netherlands/Denmark or London/US. This looks better than a lot of infra I've seen in Denmark. Can't wait to see what this loks like in 10 years because I don't think they're more than 10-20 years behind NL.
They are 10 years behind becouse they are, the netherlands just started building their cycle infrastructure way earlier, in 10 or 20 years copenhagen will be at the level or better then the dutch cycle infrastructure now.
@@Lunavii_Cellest Why does every interaction between dutch and danish bicycle enthousiasts have to end up in a childish pissing competition? Grow up guys, really!
And enjoy the ride...
@@mourlyvold7655 that was 5 months ago
@@Lunavii_Cellest That renders my thoughts irrelevant I guess.
Have a good day, peace.
@@mourlyvold7655 well it doesn't but it does mean how i think about things can change and they have changed
Looks almost Dutch ;)
the biggest problem in Seville is that the infrastructure is not enough. They have to build more cycling lines inside the city(lot of avenues don't have), at least every sharing station of Sevici should be linked to a bike line, and the other problem is what they said, that the city is not connected to de suburban areas well enough
elcomentarista Sorry but I don't agree with that sentiment. There is only so much a city can do with the budget available. It took the Dutch about 35 to 40 years to implement thier system and they still get it wrong from time to time. You have the benefit of not being the first. What Seville did took guts, the fact it worked makes it possible to roll out the green carpet even faster. That means first build more cycle paths and improve the older ones. Guess the next thing would be to change the laws governing liability: motorists are liable when a bikes are involved...
@@Paul_C I agree, Paul. They had the balls and put it in motion. These systems are never finished anyway, just start and be bold about it. Local business will get a boost (it always seems to) and in the long run they'll safe money in road maintenance. Wich will make further development possible...
In my vision the next step is of another nature: Let every city devote their immediate surroundings to local, diverse and regenerative agriculture (better still horticulture) and have the bikes bring the food into town. 😊
Are you from the Netherlands?
beautiful to see!
I wish one day I could visit your city and cycle around it.
Ça fait rêver 🥰
I would like to see an update on this
Maybe someone can film one or file an article! I don't live there and due to Covid there is very limited travel. Maybe 2022?
lo....l outstanding love it way to go need more like this all around our city's less cars more bike trails yes ooow yeah 😊👍🚴♀🚴♂🚴🚴♀🚴♂🚴. and more... E-BIKS.. too
0:50 that is really impressive. My city looks like 2005, maybe a little better, but only if you ignore that the few bike lanes we actually have are absolute fucking garbage. Still gives me hope that if we put an actual effort into it that we can see significant changes even within a couple of years.
soon we will have enough examples to show this is the way to go and there will be no more excuses for cities not to have good infrastructure.
You have enough examples in the Netherlands alone.
@@Quintinohthree yes but than people say that the Netherlands is suited for cycling.
you need more countries/cities to prove that it is a good thing.
@@boxie001 To that end I would show footage of the Netherlands in the 70's. It's not like it's always been suited to cycling. And it's not like the country is all flat either, there are loads of Dutch cities in the hills that we have, and there's no less cycling there.
@@Quintinohthree facts don't stop people from making those arguments anyway.
@@Quintinohthree I tend to agree with boxie001. One of the arguments people seem to bring up against cycling is that it's too hot for it in the place they live. Well, Sevilla in summer isn't exactly the north pole, is it?
The same goes for people claiming their place is to cold, show 'm Finnish initiatives!
I say: Let every good example be known. The more the better.
Why limit it to the Netherlands?
Groeten uit Brabant.
6:13 still funny how the combustion vehicles are still the loudest
Hopefully coming to where I live
Very nice. I personally wish we had veto roads along the sea and in any beautiful landscape too.
0:15 lady in pink rocking the HIGHEST stem i've ever seen on a bicycle and BACKWARDS!
Awesome I'm for bikes lanes.
this is very very cool
Good job Seville!
Way to go 👍
Amazing!
starting to see more folding bikes kinda surprize theres not more baskets or backpacks maybe cup holder lol nice vid thank you
Yeah I’ve seen a couple Brompton riders in the video. It’s a good bike though. Overpriced maybe, but I love mine.
@@RenM908 Ever tried a good Dahon? Ok, slightly less compact but superior riding quality in my not so humble opinion.
Need this in carmarthenshire Wales United kingdom.
Way to go Sevilla. 😊❤️🇩🇰
seville then sun of Europe is even more generous with this human enterprise...
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If we combined good cycling roads with rain water catchment road basins to shade the with native edible trees we’d be pretty close to an utopia
Do you think what the people saying hear is boring because you play music all across their speech.If you are trying to promote something it would be nice to hear what's said without constant distraction.
there are no major oil companies hq'ed in spain?
6:55 he's so damn right. it's just ridiculous
Cool city but love Madrid and Granada more
mientras, en Madrid… es el opuesto. y el aire está muy contaminado
and a better balance between green and cement in the city
why cant the uk do this
Short car rides are horrible for the wear and tear of automobiles. I fully support appropriate transportation methods and the sense of community, rather than being isolated from each other in cars.
Nice short film! The post-modern "(more) women riding" part was the only thing that felt out of place, unless Sevillian male riders were somehow notorious for running women riders off the bike paths.
The percentage of female cyclists is often used as a metric for the subjective safety of a cycling route as women tend to be more risk averse. Getting a higher percentage of women on bicycles suggests you've improved this aspect of your network.
@@GrunnenEnSeyst Well spoken!
Dallas City Council wants to ban this video
I so approve bicycles roads ....
It's called Sevilla.
Barcelona looks pretty flat. My town, Oceanside, California, is uphill and downhill everywhere.
This video PROVES ON HOW SMART the Europeans really are AKA The Spaniards! They've figured out on how the people from Amsterdam on how to utilize the common bicycle for their personal use.
I wnder how many elederly folks will be able to ride a bike in Sevilla during summer, with temperatures exceeding 40°C.
If people don't start ditching their cars temperatures will rise well above 40 c. Spain will be like the Sahara.
7.20 : Yeehaaaa!
a lot of folding bikes here
👍🏾😎
It looks better than bogota
I have a question, we know bikes are so good but why drivers relate it to poverty?
Thats an american thing. They also say riding on punlic transport is for poor people
@@Lunavii_Cellest It's not just an american thing. I hear the same attitude rules in India, to name another example...
@@Lunavii_Cellest another example is the Philippines, which is the reason why Manila sucks because of traffic caused by people who are undisciplined motorists that have cars but only drivers ride them, and complain about traffic while not even realising that they are the cause of traffic.
Very cool. Bike paths should definitely be segregated from pedestrians.
Why is that lady so impressed that women ride bicycles, she keeps on mentioning it as if it’s some novel thing for women.
Because the extent to which women are cycling is a measure of the success of the program. Making cities safe for women is an admirable priority. And city planners planning for women’s concerns is f*cking radical.
How did you manage to keep cycling non-electric? Can't see any dreadful e-scooters and e-bikes!
Uk is hopeless
That's because our delightful and mainly Oxbridge taught Politicians are too busy squabbling and backstabbing amongst themselves and generally only able to fore think to the next election or to October 2019 as it stands now... Way to go Oxbridge you must be sooooo proud.
Sport bikes and heat weather make me sick.
Too bad this wont work well in tropical humid places where either rain pours hard or the sun bakes you dry.
why?
Does nobody ride bicycle in those places? Pretty sure you could rig up a 3 wheel bicyle with a hood?
@@kudosbudo I do. But it's too hot because my country, The Philippines, doesn't have bike lanes nor trees to shade us on the road.
It will work if we have proper bike lanes, and people would stop caring about the whiteness of their skin.
@@instantinople3796 in tropical countries, rain means heavy pouring. And sun means scorching sun. I dont think copying bike lanes from temperate zones is practical.
Sevilla is really hot in the summer, I know because I live in a 2 hours distance. And, yes, in August it maybe too hot to cycle, althought it's quite flat. Anyway, they can cycle the rest of the year. And, even in your country it's not always raining or too hot. Sometimes the weather is just fine to cycle.
And don't forget that northern european countries cycle even when it's freezing and snowing. They find a way.