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  • @thilltony3362
    @thilltony3362 Год назад +38

    Greg,
    I just wanted to do a follow up on the results of using Murder sauce...
    My wife became allergic to bees, so I had to move my hives way back in the woods, where there is constant shade. The beetle population jumped up noticeably. I used murder sauce, and it went back to normal, and then I used it again, and the beetles are mostly gone.
    The one noteworthy difference is that I put the sauce in the top corners of the hive, and under the inner cover where you typically see the beetles hiding. It was VERY effective in clearing the SHB out! In fact, 2 days after my 2nd application, I was doing OAV treatments, and I noticed dead and dying beetles being kicked out by the bees. Popped the top lid and found ZERO live beetles!
    THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting this video!

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +3

      OUTSTANDING!!! Thanks for the feedback and sharing your experience. Glad it worked so well for you!

    • @geaj4214
      @geaj4214 Год назад

      I found some old crisco up in the cabinet I used it hope it dont kill my bees I had to use what I had

    • @lucasingala5304
      @lucasingala5304 Год назад

      Did you use pool grade DE or food grade?

    • @thilltony3362
      @thilltony3362 Год назад +2

      @@lucasingala5304 I actually used general purpose DE, but will use pool grade next time

    • @caz4523
      @caz4523 8 месяцев назад

      It worked for me also

  • @thilltony3362
    @thilltony3362 5 месяцев назад +7

    Follow up, another year later... My colonies that were treated in the fall of 2022 had virtually zero beetles for ALL of 2023. I applied in the upper corners mostly. Today, 2/26/2024 shows a few beetles in those hives. Time to treat!
    The untreated hives had beetles, a lot in certain hives.
    Today is beautiful, so I'm making up a batch of sauce and will go treat all of my hives for 2024.
    THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SHARING THIS INFORMATION!

  • @Fantasma-gj3go
    @Fantasma-gj3go 10 месяцев назад +13

    Full size batch
    3 lbs shortening
    1 cup DE
    10 drops eucalyptus oil
    Food coloring to preference
    Small size batch
    1 pound shortening
    1/3 cup DE
    4 drops eucalyptus oil
    Food coloring to preference

    • @caz4523
      @caz4523 9 месяцев назад +2

      Do you know how long the leftover amount lasts ?

    • @B.Harper7
      @B.Harper7 3 месяца назад

      Thank you!

  • @beemanduran
    @beemanduran 9 месяцев назад +5

    Has anyone ever captured a few hive beetles in a jar and put a little of this murder sauce to find out the results?

  • @ProfessorBoswell
    @ProfessorBoswell Год назад +3

    Wow! Great tips, I've never seen this method and I'm definitely going to try it, here in Missouri the hive beetles are atrocious, they must like the climate.
    Also, it's really good of you to say you're speaking from your experience and offering intuitive guidance. A lot of beekeepers get lost in the sauce and think only one way is right, "you have to do this don't do that" etc. Excellent approach. I have 150 hives and do a lot of workshops, I'll be sharing this and your channel with everyone. Thanks for your work!

    • @B.Harper7
      @B.Harper7 3 месяца назад

      Yup, I love hearing different tips and experiences!
      It's crazy to think, in all the different climates around the world, only ONE WAY will be applicable!

  • @linr7342
    @linr7342 9 месяцев назад +2

    Totally agree! Working bees for decades and SHB's can and do take down very strong hives.

  • @jackcoleman1632
    @jackcoleman1632 2 месяца назад +2

    Have you tried placing the sauce in a SHB castle? This isolates the bees away from the sauce, thus zero, none possibility of killing any bees. Also, you could increase the amount of DE b/c bees would have no access.

  • @sarashappyhives1828
    @sarashappyhives1828 Год назад +5

    I have been using peppermint candy along with oil traps and have not yet had a slime out situation, but I’m still seeing more beetles than I would like. This method makes sense, beetles love shortening and the diatomaceous earth will make short work of them. It’s beetle smashing time! Thanks for sharing Greg! 😊

  • @keithspillman
    @keithspillman Год назад +1

    Another great video......and thanks so much for the shout out to Half Tracks and Honeybees!!! I still want to take a ride in Bertha when you're down this way again!!
    Take care!

  • @GrammyMidwife
    @GrammyMidwife Год назад +2

    Great video! Enjoy that “funny honey”! I’m going to send you and Susan a little care package.

  • @TennesseeTim38451
    @TennesseeTim38451 Год назад +2

    As someone trying to grow my apiaries in numbers, and have a lot of small units sitting around, this is going to really help!! Thank you for sharing this and all you do! Keep shining your light little brother, it’s brilliant!

  • @swohiobees
    @swohiobees Год назад +2

    A most excellent video Greggy poo. Thank you. I'm going to link this on my next one I release.

  • @ColDesignLLC
    @ColDesignLLC Год назад

    Thanks, great video!

  • @markbasinger6015
    @markbasinger6015 Месяц назад

    Awesome .thanks

  • @LawsonsCreekApiary
    @LawsonsCreekApiary Год назад

    Good information! Luckily they haven’t been a problem for me this year.

  • @zacibalen
    @zacibalen 7 месяцев назад +2

    Bringing this recipe to my bros on the Yucatán, thank you!!!!

    • @B.Harper7
      @B.Harper7 3 месяца назад +1

      Oooooooo, if you ever get some videos of their beekeeping/apiaries, I'd be super interested in watching

  • @keithfaithful3989
    @keithfaithful3989 Год назад +1

    Great info thanks!

  • @scottreese5492
    @scottreese5492 4 дня назад

    Have you tried boric acid and crisco? I used "bye bye beetle bait traps "from Gallatin tn and wiped out shb population in 12 days. Its a mixture of boric acid and pollen supplements

  • @CastleHives
    @CastleHives Год назад +2

    I'm definitely going to try this out Greg.

  • @dcsblessedbees
    @dcsblessedbees Год назад

    had to watch just for the title.😉By the Grace of God we don't have much problem with hive beetles up here in the NW, and I thank Him for it every time I see what you all have to deal with.

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +2

      Count your blessing buddy! SHB are becoming a real threat for folks.

    • @dcsblessedbees
      @dcsblessedbees Год назад

      @@NaturesImageFarmGregBurns We do have wax moths up here and I guess at times a lot of them, is there anything like this thats good vs wax moth?

  • @ProfessorBoswell
    @ProfessorBoswell Год назад +2

    I know people use old CD cases as beetle traps, maybe the beetle butter could be combined with some sort of beetle friendly enclosure to keep it isolated?

  • @MikeBarryBees
    @MikeBarryBees Год назад +2

    Great video!! I do see some similarities in this concoction to another beekeeper that you know uses...Just sayin....But I want to try this. I need to try this. I must try this. Old school beekeepers used to use grease patties for numerous reasons and would load the grease with what they were trying to spread to the colony for health and wellbeing. Winter grease patties were a great way to get time released nutrition to colonies as they overwintered. A lot of folks began to stay away from grease patties in the south, and actually pollen patties in the heat due to the beetles. Also, high heat will make a mess of the grease when used in the patties, so the winter patties were very popular with the old-timers here in the south. I think the easy access to other patties these days also slowed the use of grease patties. But now what you're showing me is something that still attracts the beetles, but kills them. I like it. I will need to mix some up and give it a go. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Greg!!!

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +3

      Thanks for sharing Mike, I guess you could say beetle butter is sort of a trojan horse for SHB. Grease patties are def a major tool in the tool box for commercial beekeepers as a carrier for lots of applications. Sometimes old school is the best school. Bait em in and murder!

  • @krissaann333
    @krissaann333 Год назад

    Bad Ass! Thanks! 💜💜💜🙏🙏🙏

  • @BizTailer
    @BizTailer Месяц назад +1

    Eucalyptus repels the bee

  • @beebum1909
    @beebum1909 Год назад

    Good stuff

  • @hillkid4mountains
    @hillkid4mountains 3 месяца назад

    Very interesting video on the subject of hive beetles. You answered a lot of questions I had. Diatomaceous earth, Large hive in direct sunlight, and a basic organic way of dealing with these pests. It brings back memories of mixing Crisco, granulated sugar, and food coloring made into grease patties we threw into the middle of our boxes to thwart tracheal mites. Oiling their bodies so they could not climb up into the throat of honeybees. Thanks P.S. Do you still use and believe in this stuff. I kind of think so because of how many years you have been using it.

  • @adamsoutdoors
    @adamsoutdoors Год назад +2

    Used this from the get go when I set up my boxes this spring. Haven’t seen a single hive beetle or larva at all this season. Strong colonies in the sun too. Lol

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад

      Nice man! Hope your hives stay clean!

    • @geaj4214
      @geaj4214 Год назад

      I just set up a hive yesterday and will set one up to day 4/25/23. Will the grease melt everywhere I'd warm temperatures, and how often do I put the grease in?

    • @adamsoutdoors
      @adamsoutdoors Год назад +1

      @@geaj4214 I put just a touch in each corner of the bottom board, put it in early in the spring and never had to reapply it. Never had a single hive beetle.

  • @brucesbees
    @brucesbees Год назад

    Great video Greg. I need to try this!

  • @thilltony3362
    @thilltony3362 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing this tip! I've never had problems with beetles, but just discovered 2 smaller hives that were pretty infested. Will be making your murder sauce tomorrow. Thanks again!

    • @geaj4214
      @geaj4214 Год назад

      Hi,
      Did the sauce work?

    • @thilltony3362
      @thilltony3362 Год назад +2

      @@geaj4214 Yes, it works great for me! Went from infested to virtually no beetles within a few days

  • @donbearden1953
    @donbearden1953 Год назад +1

    Thanks Greg! I’ve never seen that concoction or recipe.

  • @davidscottboring940
    @davidscottboring940 Год назад

    Murder Sauce! You crack me up!!

  • @shall2130
    @shall2130 Год назад

    Thank you so much Greg. This was a much needed Video. Looks like I am going to have to subscribe to your channel so I don't mix anything

  • @willsmith5659
    @willsmith5659 2 месяца назад +1

    If old cd cases aren't available. How about injecting this mixture into beetle blasters?

  • @beechtreebees
    @beechtreebees Год назад +1

    Sounds like a winner ! Can I use food grade diatomaceous earth in the recipe instead of pool grade ? thanks great video !

    • @hanseich
      @hanseich 11 месяцев назад

      exactly what I was wondering too

    • @joyceboyle3206
      @joyceboyle3206 5 месяцев назад

      Most certainly you can. I'm sure he used the pool grade because of cost and availability.

  • @framcesmoore
    @framcesmoore Год назад

    Ha good video thanks for doing this video I use screen bottom boards will it hurt my bees to put this on the top bars in the top box thanks

  • @thilltony3362
    @thilltony3362 Год назад

    Subscribed!

  • @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210
    @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 Год назад

    I’ll be dang - Great video Greg

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад

      Thanks for watching Stan! You guys have trouble in TX w SHB?

    • @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210
      @texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 Год назад

      @@NaturesImageFarmGregBurns yes sir.....thanks for being gutsy to set the record straight on strong hives cant get over come small hive beetles...they sure can. ...we are all on the peppermint craze down here....seems to be positive....your thoughts?

  • @edmd
    @edmd Год назад

    How often you apply it through the season and when....????

  • @glennsnaturalhoney4571
    @glennsnaturalhoney4571 Год назад +1

    Interesting, might give this a try. I wonder if the beetles are just getting their breathing tubes blocked by walking through the paste? Just an FYI, check Criaco label, 0% protein, basically all fat. Beeks used to use a similar recipe for tracheal mites on the top bars.

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад

      For sure, Crisco is fat not protein. Grease patties have been an effective carrier for beekeepers for decades. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @lucasingala5304
    @lucasingala5304 Год назад +1

    Could you share a link of the DE you use?

  • @holleysdotcom
    @holleysdotcom Год назад +7

    I read that the diatomaceous earth had to be kept dry to be efficient. As such, I would have expected the shortening to render the DE less effective. Does this method work as a result of the beetles eating the bait, or simply walking over it? Would you estimate the average percentage of beetle reduction you've seen per hive? Thanks so much!

    • @jimblye1449
      @jimblye1449 Год назад +7

      Agree. Seems like DE isn't really needed in the recipe. Maybe it's the crisco, or maybe the eucalyptus repels them. Or maybe the crisco doesn't inactivate the DE after all. If the DE is still effective, it should harm the bees too. But if people say it works, I might give it a try. Someone needs to try it without the DE. Maybe I'll do that. Gotta go gets some Crisco. Didn't know people still used that. I know it kills people. So it probably kills beetles too!

    • @leapinlizard2
      @leapinlizard2 Год назад +2

      DE must be kept dry and any insect who walks through the powder gets it in their joints. DE is very abrasive and cuts into all insects exoskeleton thus dehydrating and killing the insect. If this recipe works, it must be the eucalyptus and or vegetable shortening that is repelling the beetles.

    • @heartsparkdollar
      @heartsparkdollar Год назад +6

      They are ingesting it. You could drink a solution of DE and it would makes its way through your system no problem. I am guessing the beetles are eating it and it is like glass going through them.

    • @lavenderlilacproductions
      @lavenderlilacproductions Год назад

      And he said DE and Crisco was a protein to attract SHB, but neither Crisco nor DE have protein in it. Anecdotally it works, but I can't figure a mechanism.

    • @jamesgibson3679
      @jamesgibson3679 5 месяцев назад +3

      nuther fella has a YT video about using old cd cases for this mixture, You must break a tab on each side of the upper lid to let the SHB in. The mixture kills the beetles, does not repel them. He dumped out a dozen or so dead SHB from a baited case and showed them to be dead as door nails.

  • @kathyhathaway8823
    @kathyhathaway8823 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hello Greg does this kill or run the beetles out ???. Thanks all bee keepers need all the help we can get . This sounds like it will for sure help. I saw another comment about DE needs to be dry to work an that is what my understanding was also so I have had a great day today because I have learned something new . That makes my day complete .LOL THANK

  • @l.aliceclay6437
    @l.aliceclay6437 Год назад

    How often do you repeat it in your hives?

  • @wesleybryant7839
    @wesleybryant7839 26 дней назад

    What does the eucalyptus oil do. Does it attract or repel the SHB.

  • @caz4523
    @caz4523 9 месяцев назад

    I am going to try this...How long will the leftover mixture last for?

  • @blackberry5908
    @blackberry5908 10 месяцев назад

    How long can we keep the product in the container ?

  • @bhjb4325
    @bhjb4325 Год назад +1

    What is the shelf life?

  • @blackcreekorganicfarm296
    @blackcreekorganicfarm296 Год назад

    My strongest hive in full sun this year slimed out.
    The only hive I lost

  • @CallahanHomestead-n-Bees
    @CallahanHomestead-n-Bees Год назад +4

    Shortening does not have any protein in it

  • @diyoregonnowtexas9202
    @diyoregonnowtexas9202 Год назад

    Great, but my bottom boards are nailed onto the boxes.

  • @richardkuhn4358
    @richardkuhn4358 Год назад

    good video Thanks🤡

  • @BellyUpFish
    @BellyUpFish 2 месяца назад

    How would this work in beetle traps?

  • @baldeagleApiaries
    @baldeagleApiaries 4 месяца назад +1

    So the hive beetles eat the lard?

  • @thilltony3362
    @thilltony3362 Год назад

    QUESTION: Would it be helpful to put a little in the top corners of the hive, where most of the beetles are, besides the smears on the bottom?

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад

      Great question. I don’t know. Have never really tried it up top. If you do, let us know what you think.

    • @thilltony3362
      @thilltony3362 Год назад +1

      @@NaturesImageFarmGregBurns I will smear some in the top corners and report back. WARNING: Food Lion shortening was super-stiff, so I microwaved it for 30 seconds to soften, and it turned liquid. Hasn't thickened back up after an hour. I may have to throw it out and make another batch.
      Again, thanks for the help!

    • @jrmars5434
      @jrmars5434 4 месяца назад

      @@thilltony3362 Don't throw it out. I did the same thing as you on heating it in the microwave. After about two days the mixture thickened back up. Don't know why it took so long thicken but it did return to a solid.

    • @tonyhill3638
      @tonyhill3638 4 месяца назад

      @@jrmars5434 I didn't. Worked fine, just took awhile to re-solidify. Thanks, though!

  • @conradriffle8262
    @conradriffle8262 Год назад

    My wild bees I caught Kill hive beatles like crazy

  • @DawnDBoyerPhD
    @DawnDBoyerPhD Год назад

    Diatomaceous earth is usually good grade for animal and human consumption

  • @georgewaynewilcoxjr2102
    @georgewaynewilcoxjr2102 Год назад

    Fill in the cracks!

  • @cljones2009
    @cljones2009 Год назад

    What about a screened bottom board? Just in the corners?

  • @sonofone1-263Bees
    @sonofone1-263Bees Год назад

    Thank you brother I have been looking for that info on a mix. I was thinking it was boric acid or diitinatious earth

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад

      You bet! Hope it helps!

    • @sonofone1-263Bees
      @sonofone1-263Bees Год назад

      My only problem now is I canon's find it in 50lb bags. Right now I don't need that much with only 1 hive.

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад

      @@sonofone1-263Bees try a local pool supply

    • @shall2130
      @shall2130 Год назад

      @@NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Make sure it is a food grade diatomaceous earth.

    • @bhjb4325
      @bhjb4325 Год назад

      @@sonofone1-263Bees Know anyone with a pool

  • @jonmarcos8488
    @jonmarcos8488 5 месяцев назад

    Is there anyway you can post the written recipe?

  • @thilltony3362
    @thilltony3362 Год назад +1

    GREG, a big question came up about the murder sauce on Beesource bee forum. You use pool-grade DE, which is nasty stuff. Is THAT what kills the beetles? I made some from farm-grade, and I suspect it won't be very effective. Let me know what you think, thanks!

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +2

      The pool grade is heat treated which creates a sharper cutting surface. The food grade will work, just not as effectively.

    • @thilltony3362
      @thilltony3362 Год назад +1

      @@NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Thanks, Greg, that's what I suspected. I really appreciate the quick reply, thanks! Now I need to find a source for small-quantities of filter-grade DE. Do you have any good sources?

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +1

      @@thilltony3362 no problem. Keep in mind that with a cursory glance at pool grade it has its hazards. But so does nearly EVERY component in health maintenance of our colonies. The question quickly becomes at what rates of consumption are hazardous…which is typically rates that do not even apply to our use. I haven’t found a source for small quantities unfortunately.

  • @nunyabusiness7623
    @nunyabusiness7623 Год назад

    Crisco and boric acid mix no longer effective?

  • @XFBO
    @XFBO 11 месяцев назад

    I only have two hives.... anyone make an accurate smaller batch?

  • @normkoster7570
    @normkoster7570 Год назад

    where are you located

  • @TimBeech-iv9vk
    @TimBeech-iv9vk Год назад

    Where do u get the oil sorry i cant spell it lol

    • @caz4523
      @caz4523 9 месяцев назад

      online...essential oils search that title

  • @honeyandthecoop803
    @honeyandthecoop803 Год назад

    Thanks Greg, hive beetles can be a problem here in South Carolina for sure. This definitely gives me another weapon of war against this worthy adversary!..... Also with that background music 🎶 and looking like a cooking show, perhaps you should order yourself a Nature's Image Farm apron.

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +1

      SHB can be absolutely devastating…even when colonies are strong and on full sun. I’m not qualified for apron, a bib though…for sure!

  • @SindreEide93
    @SindreEide93 Год назад

    1: I do not have bees (I want to get me some)
    2: There is no hivebeatles in my country or atleast a minimal amount.
    So completely unesesary for me to watch this video. I still did and I found it quite interesting. Atleast I'm ready if we actually get hivebeatles one day and I have hives.

    • @Peter-od7op
      @Peter-od7op 9 месяцев назад

      What country u from

    • @SindreEide93
      @SindreEide93 9 месяцев назад

      @@Peter-od7op I'm from Norway

  • @mileawayhoney
    @mileawayhoney Год назад

    You don't use Beetle Barns for this?

  • @intheshell35ify
    @intheshell35ify 10 месяцев назад

    "Diatomaceous earth" is my cue to move on. I also refuse to bury an old penny under the southwest corner of a hive to control pests. No. I do not care about that one time.....

  • @kasiabuchta2349
    @kasiabuchta2349 Год назад

    Are you sure that Crisco contains proteins? As far as I know, it’s not true. Zero proteins in it. So, what attracts beetles in Crisco? 🙈

    • @jrmars5434
      @jrmars5434 4 месяца назад

      The fat in shoertening. Bees ignore murdered sauce because it contains no sugar.

  • @michaelshelnutt3534
    @michaelshelnutt3534 Год назад +3

    I’m sorry but fat is not protein. There are 3 categories- carbs, fats, and protein. Crisco is fat.

    • @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns
      @NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Год назад +3

      Thankyou for the correction. Beetles love it.

    • @michaelshelnutt3534
      @michaelshelnutt3534 Год назад

      @@NaturesImageFarmGregBurns Glad to see you are pressing forward with your rebuild. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

    • @shall2130
      @shall2130 Год назад

      @@michaelshelnutt3534 I do hate to admit, that the best part of a very rare ribeye steak is the fat. The dogs get most of it, but I do get my share!😉

    • @jrmars5434
      @jrmars5434 4 месяца назад

      The beetles are attracted to the fat. The bees ignore it because it contains no sugar.

    • @bc2578
      @bc2578 3 месяца назад

      I think he meant that the pollen (protein) falls to the bottom board, so that's where you put this sauce, where the beetles are hanging out scrounging for fallen pollen.......

  • @caz4523
    @caz4523 9 месяцев назад

    Will this kill the bees?

  • @Lovvorns3BFarms
    @Lovvorns3BFarms Год назад

    I am trying this as well. Hive beetles are getting bad, so I think this should work. I did a video on it as well. Thanks for the tips!
    ruclips.net/video/8gLyjpkDxKU/видео.html