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Making Sluice Box Mats With Silicone Caulk Easy to Make
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Trying a new idea making sluice box mats with silicone caulk and dawn dish soap they are super easy to make. I hope this will help on what not to do but a easy DIY project. I just need to trim them up and put them in the sluice box and run some dirt.
I have made a lot of improvements in the processes of making the mats since this video. Here is a more detailed video. ruclips.net/video/ryOm0ktYp78/видео.html
Food dye for colour in clear ...
:) I lined mine with an old heavy duty rubber car mat out of my van. It's probably a bit too chunky, but hey, it was just sitting in the shed, may as well use it. :)
Thank you Alan for your breaking into new frontier and having great results. Amazing how fast it takes a set. Got to try this.
Thanks, The black silicone from Silicone depot takes about 4 hours to set up but well worth it.
That is a neat way to work with silicone. Thanks again.
Thanks Billy it is pretty cool the way it works.
I really LOVE the idea. I love experimenting new stuff to get more GOLD
Thank you the mats seem to be working well I will be trying a new beach mat I made for fine gold today we will see how it goes. You are right thinking out side the box will put more gold in the box. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video. Full of time & dollar saving ideas. The speed of the setting silicone from mild pour to release is incredible. I like the simplicity of the mould: imagination, timber & a saw. Thank you for putting in the hard yards of experimental work and then magnanimously sharing with us. Top job. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
Hello Michael in Australia. WOW what a awesome comment you know how to make a guys day. I have some more work to do on the mats I have had some fails but it has been a lot of fun to try we will see how the testing goes. Thanks for watching/
Very interesting idea! I can't wait to see how it works out.
Hello William. For me the mats have been working great. I like the ones I made using Legos for a mold the best. I have many videos on making and using them. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for sharing your research!!!
My pleasure!
Once again you are a mad genius great video can't wait to see how they work. Have a great day and prospect on.
Thank you Larry now to glue them together and see how they work. Thanks for watching.
I love they way that you are always innovating and thinking outside of the box! Keep it up man!
Thank you I appreciate that. That is one big catfish! Thanks for watching.
Great idea love watching your videos I like to make all my own stuff as well and get great idea from you and thank you for that can't wait to see how they work
Thank you Glad I have been able to give you some ideas I hope some of them have worked for you. Now to do some testing Than you for watching.
Another great video Alan. Keep them coming
Thank you Maurice I guess I have some testing to do now. Thanks for watching.
You are an absolute legend :) watched your vid this morn, made a new Lego mat for my little 10 inch backpack sluice at lunch; had my best flour gold clean-up ever this afternoon! Only got 3 colour in the pan after the sluice, 50+ colour in the mat. Even saw gold in the mat. Never have I seen gold in the mat before. Thanks for the best idea ever :):):)
Hello Andrew. That is fantastic thank you for sharing your results with the silicone mats. I know that my results have been nothing short of amazing so far it is great to hear someone else had similar results.
really neat idea!
Thank you.
Cant wait to try it after your mold video comes out!
I hope to have the video up today I am working on it now.
Great idea.
Thx CR
The ones I made with the legos work the best.
Excellent!! Of course gonna work!Its soffter than rubber,it will STOP heavies.This idea opens the way to all kind of mats,just like you like or need.Ja js.frenchs spending money in technology with 3D printed mats,you can do even dream mats like this way.Congratulations,you should be prized.Thanks fir share,this will work for All !
Thank you had never thought of 3D printed mats before if this works I thing the possibility are endless. Thanks for watching.
luv it I learned a lot just watching that vid ..
Thank you this was my fist try at making the mats. My latest video on making the mats is much more detailed and improved.
Pretty smart.
Easy, cheap and working (later video if you come upon this first). Awesome DIY!
Thank you The mats have been working great the ones I made using the legos work the best Thanks for watching and subscribing.
you are a clever man
Mr Robinson,,your a genious,,i cant wait to see the resalt,that what old men do think about beating the sistem,,this is what i do,my time on the pillow,sometime it drive me in seine,,keep up on the invention,,,thank you,this is the best so far
Thank you Lou I love the comment I drive my wife nuts she always says what are you thinking about now she is awesome and very supportive but I do drive her nuts when I am thinking about my inventions.Thanks for watching.
Im trying this out today.
you smart good job
That is looking interesting Alan. I'm looking forward to how they work out. You don't have to fill the sluice box all the way. That much should work very well. Yippers, it's looking like Tube sand time is coming. I'm trying to stockpile a little panning sand for the winter myself.
Thank you can't wait to see how they work in the sluice box you are right I think I will give it a go with what I have. I saw that Home Depot had the tube sand in stock here.
Cool grate job
Thank you.
Awesome Idea🤓
Thank you Fran.
Good job
I haven't tried making molds using silicone before. Thanks for showing what's involved ! I hope it doesn't stink so much once it's in the water and dish soap. The smell of it has deterred me from wanting to use it much in the past.
Yes it stinks once the silicone is set up put the mat in a bucket of water and it helps get rid of the smell
So cool
HI ALAN KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LOOKS GREAT
Thank you Noel
Good idea
Thanks you the mats have come a long way since this video.
I too have tried the cornstarch mold making, oh my Lord what a mess... and you're right it is a nice stiff consistency....
but too hard to work with!
Hi Kristen you know what I am talking about I should have videoed that process every one would have had a good laugh. If the dish soap mats are not stiff enough I might have to try again. Thanks for watching.
Awesome man!! I'm gonna have to try this one!
I have no complaints so far with the mats. I do like the ones I made using legos I know it sounds funny but they are working well. Good luck and thank you for subscribing.
Legos huh? Nice! I can tell that I'm gonna be binge watching your channel and trying some of your ideas out.. Here in WV we only have very fine flour gold. I think home made mats will help!
If you watch some of my latest videos I am running beach sand trying different ideas to catch the fine gold. I hope some of my ideas help you catching more fine gold.
what a great idea.....good one man the lego one is my fav.....very cool idea!!
Thanks Arnie I think I am done trying new designs for now after running the mats made with legos several times now I am sold man they catch the gold.
Just lookin at them I can tell they are gold catchers..........very original for sure!!
Brilliant mind you have
Thank you Brian The mats seem to be working out so far. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video, I wish the plastic molds were more affordable, guess I will need to make some of these
Yes but you can make as many mats as you want or need. You could even split the cost with a few buddy's.
Alan I doubt you will ever see this post. I live in Panama and made a Blue Bowl mat following your instruction except on the 1st try I didn´t.
I used "White" like a dumb ass, not good but funny. At any rate I have
made 2 beautiful mats....SOoooo....THANK YOU !!
One is for the more than goofy guy I hang out with while gathering beach gold. He is always whining, carping and complaining about his Blue Bowl and how he wished he could get his hands on a silicone mat. When I gave it to him I thought he was going to cry. He´s such a silly shit.
That's awesome you made me smile. So glad you got the mat to work for you. Good luck on that beach gold.
Another out-of-the-box idea! Awesome. I enjoy your videos. If you want some help building some more accurate molds I have a pretty decent wood shop with a router table and a regular router as well. I'm over in Anaconda and it's going to be a long winter!
Thank you Greg I will have to see how the mats work out and maybe take you up on your offer you can only do so much with a skill saw.Oh and you have some good fishing nearby. Thanks for watching.
I knew that would work . I was going to try flex seal but that stuff is expensive.
The silicone sluice mats have been working out very well the ones I made using legos have worked out the best I will be running them on the beach in a few weeks.
You could use the silicon mats as a mold for flex seal or another liquid nobber and make your own rubber mats too.
Good idea others have suggested using Flex Seal to we just need to figure out how to get the Flex seal to release from the mold any ideas? I have made a few more mold and trying a drop riffle sluice mat idea just need to do more testing. I do like the way the mats lay flat in the sluice box. Thanks for watching and sharing your ideas.
use a old stand mixer or bread machine to do the cornstarch version or bend apiece of re-bar into a hook and chuck it in your drill to do the mixing
Thank you for the idea the wife has a old bread machine. we will see how the testing goes and move on from there.Thanks for watching
Making your patterns looks like a perfect application for a 3D printer.
It probably would work great I have never used one I might have to learn.Thanks for watching
@@alanrobertson2510 dont bother. There's an army of guys helping youtube creators with this kind of thing. Check out mrpete222 and try to contact the guy thats helping him or search youtube for help.
Thank you.
Thank you for subscribing and the great comments. I hope you enjoy the channel going forward.
Enjoying your videos, I've a suggestion, don't know if anyone else has offered it. Make your mix with the silicone in dawn then take out and roll in/knead in cornstarch to add that toughness you like but will still be easy to work with. keep wetting hands in the dawn solution as you go. Also oil the tray for easier release, with lard or shortening.
Thanks for the suggestions. As for me I am done with the corn starch what a mess. The silicone does setup pretty fast when you take it out of the dawn. Thanks for your input.
Mold release or spray cooking oil may help.
So cool how that dries so fast... And they should last a few years also.. I wonder how that rubberized texture spray paint would work on wood
It sure does set up fast you have to be quick about putting it in the mold. I am not sure about the paint some have suggested flex seal just not sure how to get it to release from the mold. Thanks for watching.
@@alanrobertson2510 I'm not really a fan of that Flex Seal
Awesome you should try to make them out of the as seen on tv stuff flex seal great job
Thanks for the idea I would just have to figure out how to get it to release. Thanks for watching
Maybe rub candle wax on mold
The firmness of the cornflower mix might be better if you can figure out a way of manipulating it without tooo much mess! Good on ya Alan! Looking forward to seeing you testing these matts ;-)
I should have put making the cornflower mats on video what a mess. I hope the dawn mats work out. Thanks for watching.
I'm so glad i found you... i was just fixing to make some silicone mats and hadn't heard of anyone doing it before. I wonder if some of that flexible spray rubberized paint stuff could change the color of the silicone after the mat is made? make it a bit easier to see the gold?
To ad color to the mats mix in food coloring to the silicone before you put it in the dish soap. Thanks for subscribing.
Well that's using yur noggin! Looks like an interesting way to experiment with various designs of your own imagination.
Thank you I sure hope they work out it will give me something to do this winter. Thanks for watching
Yet again, I'm out done......Good Video.
Thank you This was the first try on making the mats it's now six month later and I am still using the mats. I am sold on the silicone mats.
Ha ha ha... that is the most yucky stuff to work with, but i love your solution using water and dish soap. that works beautifully.
Man, you come up with the most incredible concepts. just keep on keeping on. really enjoy your vids
Yucky is right I had that stuff everywhere I sure hope the dawn mats work a whole lot easier to work with. Thank you for watching.
Think its perfect for rocker box,or slow water sluice,or amix of both,because stays flexible so produces bouncing and vibrations,going to sleep now thinking about this Thanks again!
I think you are right they would work great for a rocker box.
Hmmm I like the way you think.
Thank you I will have to see how they work out in the sluice. Thanks for watching
Alan Robertson thanks for sharing
Pure genius man👍✌ have you ever tried using rubber car floor mats?
Thank you. I have never tried the floor mats before maybe will have to try that some time. Thanks for watching
Hello Alan, Just found out we have a mutual acquaintence in Clint B. I will be heading back down to Tucson to sell Kettle Korn at his event in less than two weeks. Currently we are in Helena working on a project here. Small world. :-)
Sorry my computer crashed. Yep Clint spends the summer up here just a few houses down from me. Be sure to tell the family hi from me. Enjoy the winter where it is warm.
@@alanrobertson2510 Said Hi to Clint today. Hope to see the rest on friday. Hot here...
Very good idea. Maybe overkill from my end but if you make like a 3 inch wide plexiglass sluice you can visually see the different exchange rates of each type you mold. Run some washed material for the experiments of course.
Thank Chris I will see how it goes if it looks like it is going to work maybe a plexiglass sluice is not a bad idea. Thanks for watching.
Alan Robertson Yeah you got me convinced. I'm using my brothers routter bits on some plywood to see what the groves look like. I'm going to make some molds and do this same experiment. I made a 3 foot by 7.5 inch sluice today. I'm going to make a header box for it next weekend. All just to make my own mats for it 😀 thanks for the great idea
Good luck a router will do a much better job than my skill saw I will be testing mine soon and go from there. Let me know how it goes.
Alan Robertson Yes sir I sure will. My router bits are pretty cool groves and I think that it's going to be awesome results. BTW my sluice I'm putting together is not plexiglass. Just a mild steel square tube cut in two and welded at the seam 😁 I'm going to make a plexiglass one too because I'm curious now !!!
I saw the Lego matting in another video and a couple comments about that, I want to try that... Did you use the regular size, duplo's, or both? Did you cut them at an angle to make riffles too or just different heights? I have potential for fine flour gold in a creek with lots of other minerals. Awesome idea by the way, I'm new to prospecting and $100's of dollars to start is excessive if I don't even know if I like it.. old timers used a lot of scrap from what it looks like, and did good.
Hello Matt I used regular size Legos The fist mat I made I used the slanted pieces for the riffles it is pretty aggressive mat the mat I made for fine gold I used the long flat pieces up to two high and it took about half of the chalk I hope this helps you out. I did do a video on making the mats using legos.
Would food coloring work to get the desired color and would a spray can of canola oil work to release the mold? Thanks again.
Yes food coloring works mix in the food color before you put it in the dawn dish soap. You do not need a mold release with this method.
So if you have leftover silicone could you put that back into the water/dawn mix to keep it from curing so that it could be used later on?
No you can not the silicone will harden in the soap mixture fast. It's a one shot deal.
Ok, good to know.
Cost effective way , hope it works I'm not a fan of the , green grass mat . That comes with older slucebox.
Me either I hope that they work. Thanks for watching
Hi Alan I am having a really difficult time getting the silicone to nead into any kind of a ball. I have tried cheap silicone @ $8 a tube to
$12 a tube GE Pro II all being 100% silicone. I am using Dawn dish detergent mixed half and half.
The silicone won't mix at all, it just squeezes through my fingers but doesn't stick to them at all. I tried adding more dawn but it didn't help.
I used a fine screened siv to drain off the liquid and still wouldn't work. So i figured I'd try anyway. Well the results have been that it will work in the mold (set up in 10-15mins ) but the bottoms look like cottage cheese but the top is fine. It just seems impossible to roll flat and so I smoothed them with my hand but the result is far from perfect. Any help from you or any of your subs that might have an answer would be very much appreciated.
Hi Chris if the silicone is setting up in 10 to 15 min you are on the right track Please try the method I use in my latest video I did where you press the silicone into the mold and put the silicone into dish soap in one big ball. It kind of sounds like you have to much soap in the water if it will not stick together I hope this helps you out. We are just leaving and will be back on Friday.
@@alanrobertson2510 Thanks so much Alan that may be possible I'll try that.
Thanks again for all your help have a great trip and don't forget to bring back the gold sounds like a to mine.
Great idea, only question I have is durability. As far as catching gold, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Well so far no problems with the mats. I have made three sets so far and we just ran for 4 days out in Washington with no problems. I cant wait to try them at the claim as soon as the snow melts and put to a real test. I like the ones I made using legos for the mold the best.Thanks for watching.
@@alanrobertson2510 Hey that's good to hear. I am going to give it a try.
Enjoy your creative ideas that make gold mining affordable. Thank for sharing your ideas.
So tell me Allan are your inventions related to feeding the gold fever over the long winter? I find the winter shut down saddens me and leaves me burning up with the fever😲 ! Thanks for filling the void☺
I just like trying different Ideas summer or winter. As far as winter i am super bummed no digging for at least five months. Come spring I will be ready to go with probably a much better set up.
Are they stiff enough for faster water or are you thinking slower moving water for fine gold?
I hope that they will work for fast water so I can use them with my high banker and trommel I run a 2000 ghp pump. Thanks for watching
Try sealing the mold with lacquer then use Pam cooking spray as a mold release. Should make it let go cleaner.
Thank you Jerry that is a great idea. I think I will see how well they work in the sluice before I go to much farther. Thanks for watching
@@alanrobertson2510 hopefully you'll get the right combo, it's always more fun with your own designs.
When I've used Silicone after it has cured it won't let anything stick to it . How do you glue the sections to each other? Did I miss something?
No you didn't miss any thing I used the silicone out of the tube did the top first then turned them over and did the bottom it seems to hold just fine.
How make the patrón?
Using GE 100% SILICONE, Dawn dish soap, warm water. 72 degree in the house, silicone will not set up. It stays sticky and gooey. Any suggestions 🤔
I am very aware if this problem with GE silicone. You are using type 2 silicone you need two use type 1 silicone or moisture cure silicone.
I suggest RTV silicone from silicone depot or DAP 100% silicone
100% silicone can still be many types using alkoxy, acetoxy, ester, enoxy or oxime type silanes in the curing.
Apparently they can all be accelerated with moisture but I have had different luck with that.
The one that smells like vinegar when curing is acetoxy type. I think fishtank marine silicone is alkoxy. The former releases acid while curing the other alcohol.
Well. I had to check. The fish tank stuff is (at least here) acetoxy aka vinegar smelling. This is at least safe for fish. The Oxime stuff is probably what is used a lot in the us and Canada as it appears to be legal there. It is definitely illegal in Norway due to it being toxic to marine life. The bathroom stuff can be Alkoxy as it is (as Oxime) neutral during cure so will not stain tiles.
I have been testing all sorts I could get here to find which accellerate with soapy water and which works with a bit of cornstarch. Unfortunately for me what we have here is mostly Alkoxy and I cannot get it to react with the soapy water at all, regardless of soap brand. The Acetoxy stuff I got (fish tank) was accellerated a bit with soapy water but a lot faster with a bit of acrylic color and cornstarch.
question.. you said 50% water and 50% dawn. How much of that is it. Do you have an ounce measurement? Cannot tell from the bowl you have there. Thanks.
So This is the first video I ever made on making the mats and have made several more since this one. The best mixture is 1/2 cup of Dawn dish soap to 2 quarts of water.
Could you use a fibreglass resin? Seems pretty cheap but no idea about strength and only costs around $20 to $30 a Kilo or 2.2lbs
Not sure I think it would be hard as a rock.
@@alanrobertson2510 I guess you're right and be prone to chipping. Silicone it is then :)
Do you use any mould release agent?
Nope no release agent. The mats have come so far since I made this video. Just made a two sided mat and a 16 x 48 mat for my friends gold mine with 3D printed molds.
are you sticking them together with the same silicon calk?
Yes just put silicone on the edges and glue them together.
Probably be cheaper and easier to use a cheap dollar store furnace hepa filter as a mould for the silicone
use mold then instead of silicone, use polyurethane instead. works great and much for solid but fexible.
Good idea but the gold sticks to the silicone mats. Not sure about the polyurethane.
I learned the hard way, but you can use clear, white or black as long as it is #1 NOT #2 number 2 will not set up. The number on the tube is so small you can barely find it. 👍
You are absolutely right. Type 1 only.
I wonder how liquid nail would work
The 100% silicone liquid nails works great I have used it.
Sprinkling baby powder down first would probably ease the removal
Hi Alan. So im fixin to start my silicone mat adventure and remember you saying in this video that black colored calk doesnt work? i found an ebay seller selling 100% silicone in white for 3 buck a tube with shipping. Im going to try it out but thought id pass it along. its about the cheapest ive been able to find so far. what do you think?
It has been my experience that only clear silicone will work And that is all I have seen other use in other videos for making molds with silicone. If you decide to try it let me know how it goes. The cheapest silicone I have been able to find is MD brand or Liquid nails at Walmart here it is about $4.25 a tube. Good luck.
@@alanrobertson2510 I decided to give it a go. If it don't work i can use it around the house. all said and done it was 31.60 for 12 tubes. the guy has 500 tubes so if it does work it may be a bit cheaper source? I will let you know.
@@builtrodewreckedit That is a great price I would try putting a small amount into the Dawn and see if it sets up if it dos not set up at least you didn't ruin your mold like I did.
@@alanrobertson2510 I will give that a shot first thing.
If it possible to make a mold with this Technic on a rubber mat with out damage the rubber mat I want to do a copy of Keene miracle mat if it possible
I do believe you will be ok I tried a sample on the ribbed mats that I use without any problems. Good luck and thanks for subscribing and watching.
@@alanrobertson2510 i goning to try it
@@kristianlindblom1114 Good luck you will end up with some residue on the mat that should wash off try a sample fist I have a few fails with different types of chalk that would not set up what a mess.
Blue bowl matt
Already done and it works fantastic.
So the 50:50 mix is Dawn: water by volume & if too tacky more Dawn, & if it won't ball together more water.
Correct try a small amount first.
Thanks & DAP or Liquid Nails/Ace seems to work better than GE brand. 100% Silicone clear working best.
How you found this recipe? Must be good chemist or good at "finding out knowledge of witty inventions" (Bible speak)
Yes I like DAP the best I did not have good luck with the GE brand.I wanted to see if I could make my own sluice box mats so I did a search how to make a rubber mold and found a ton of videos they make this type of molds for casting wax and even some metals.
Hello,if i cherche the gold in the river of morocco,what u think i can find somme think!!!!please i wish some one answer me...
If the river of Morocco has a history of people finding gold in it then I am sure you can find some. If no one has ever found gold there then I would look elsewhere. Good luck on your hunt.
Alan Robertson thank u very much
what brand of silicone you use
Hello Kristian Just make sure it is 100% silicone the ones that worked for me is liquid nails, ace brand and DAP the only one that failed was GE and colored chalk. I hope this helps and good luck.
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How in the world did that stuff dry so fast. Dang 15 minutes?
Shoot that stuff usually takes hours to dry
It has something to do with the water and soap makes it setup. I love the silicone mats they have come so far since I made this video.
What about trying food coloring?
Yes food coloring works I mixed the food coloring into the silicone before it is put in the dish soap. I like the mats I made using the legos for a mold the best I have several videos up making and using the mats. Thanks for watching
I made my first mat for my dredge today.... it came out great. If you like the video is up on my channel. I don't have any prospecting friends so it will never get out to anyone who matters lol but i think i got it down to an easy process... Thanks again Alan....
You did a great job on the mat. My new nozzles showed up today and go figure they sent me all 0.4 nozzles. I found a seller in the US I hope they send the bigger size nozzle.
@@alanrobertson2510 Thats a bummer.... maybe one could be drilled with the smallest bit you can find? i have some super fine drill bits but its a tricky operation
@@builtrodewreckedit Thanks for the idea I think I will just wait until next week for the new ones. I just have to say every time I fire up my lawn mower like almost every day I think about that sweet RC mower you made. I told the wife I had to have one.
@@alanrobertson2510 Ha Ha... yes its allot of fun mowing the yard with remote control and your beer doesn't even get shaken up lol
Hello Master
Hello Thanks for watching
Pioneer pauly uses artificial grass ...it’s great
For flour gold in his area
Flex seal.
Any ideas on how to get the flex seal to release from the mat?
Talc , baby powder.
Vary clvear
Thanks.
How come it only takes 15mins to dry? I thought silicone takes 24 hours
I don't know why I have started waiting about a half a hour now the mats have come so far since I mad this video I have started 3D printing the molds. There is a ton of videos on RUclips making silicone molds using this process.
@@alanrobertson2510 thanks for the response, I was wondering, do you have a template for those lego moulds? I'd like to make one but I'm not sure the best way to place the legos.
@@joecramp2987 Sorry I do not I don't think I could duplicate my mat if I wanted to every six inch section is different I do not like the long roof sections they clean out to fast just make a ton of different levels and you should be fine.
brilliant mate. DIY marital aids and breast implants be another use
Just melt aluminium
It is caulk not chalk good idea
Hey you should use coaco coir it works good for fine gold and you don't need riffles
Thanks for pointing that out.
Do you mean potting soil ?
Это не ковры, а пи#дец во весь профиль. Затрахаетесь на смыве, а за уловистость вобще умолчу. Уж лучше махровым полотенцем застелить шлюз.
Уважение только к голове, которая занята поиском решения.
Всё гораздо проще.